From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb  4 13:15:40 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 14:15:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Website for the Conference
Message-ID: <20020204141540.C304@carolo.net>

As promised, I started to setup a page at the URL
http://europython.p3b.org
It's far from perfect, but that's the best one online ;-)

What about europython.org ? 
Who wants to contribute ?
Any news (Martijn, Ivo, ...)

Regards,

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From tim@2wave.net  Tue Feb  5 12:12:02 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:12:02 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Website for the Conference
In-Reply-To: <E16XmUn-0003wB-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20020205121202.87399.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>

> 
> As promised, I started to setup a page at the URL
> http://europython.p3b.org
> It's far from perfect, but that's the best one
> online ;-)

A great start! I'll put a notice up about this page
this morning at Python 10.
> 
> What about europython.org ? 
> Who wants to contribute ?

I'm unsure who is/are the "point person(s)" for the
Europython conference, so I'll use the group to offer
my assistance in giving time to make the EuroPython
conference a success. If someone could get in touch
with me about the roles that need filling, I'll see if
any fit my skillset. Please refer to Marc-Andre for a
character reference :-)

Tim

Dr Tim Couper


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From tim@2wave.net  Tue Feb  5 12:13:19 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:13:19 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Website for the Conference
In-Reply-To: <E16XmUn-0003wB-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20020205121319.16403.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com>

> 
> As promised, I started to setup a page at the URL
> http://europython.p3b.org
> It's far from perfect, but that's the best one
> online ;-)

A great start! I'll put a notice up about this page
this morning at Python 10.
> 
> What about europython.org ? 
> Who wants to contribute ?

I'm unsure who is/are the "point person(s)" for the
Europython conference, so I'll use the group to offer
my assistance in giving time to make the EuroPython
conference a success. If someone could get in touch
with me about the roles that need filling, I'll see if
any fit my skillset. Please refer to Marc-Andre for a
character reference :-)

Tim

Dr Tim Couper


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From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb  5 15:06:37 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 16:06:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Website for the Conference
References: <20020205121202.87399.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C5FF4FD.C2AE83B9@lemburg.com>

Tim Couper wrote:
> 
> >
> > As promised, I started to setup a page at the URL
> > http://europython.p3b.org
> > It's far from perfect, but that's the best one
> > online ;-)
> 
> A great start! 

Indeed.

I would recommend to redirect the europython.org domain
until europython.org is installed and ready to run.

PS: Please don't forget to post the official announcement
to comp.lang.python.announce and the other widely known news 
services such as LWN, Linux Today, O'Reilly, various magazines
(e.g. PyZine), <local press name goes here>, etc.

If you have the official wording of the announcement
settled, please let me know. Then I'll try to run it by a
few magazines here in Germany (e.g. Heise's c't, iX etc.).

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Tue Feb  5 15:59:13 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 16:59:13 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Website for the Conference
In-Reply-To: <20020205121319.16403.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020205121319.16403.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1012924752.3c60015102520@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Tim Couper <drtimcouper@yahoo.co.uk>:

> > As promised, I started to setup a page at the URL
> > http://europython.p3b.org
> > It's far from perfect, but that's the best one
> > online ;-)
> 
> A great start! 


Yes, it is - especially the cartoon! ;-)

Unless I'm the only one slightly confused about this,
I suggest to refocus the wording just a bit to say if 
the conference is mainly about Python ("Euro-Python") 
or mainly about Zope ("European Python-Zope Developers")
or equally well about both. 

In fact, I see eurozope.org for the first time now, be-
ing mentioned in the URL lists, but I guess this does
not make it clearer, at least not to me.

OTOH, if everybody else is much smarter than I am, then
please forget what I wrote... 

Regards,

Dinu



From paul@zope.com  Wed Feb  6 11:54:01 2002
From: paul@zope.com (Paul Everitt)
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 06:54:01 -0500
Subject: [EuroPython] Website for the Conference
References: <20020205121202.87399.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C611959.2000807@zope.com>

FYI, I printed a formatted version of the text supplied by Martijn and 
handed out around 100 copies yesterday.  I also put it on a slide 
announcing upcoming events.

--Paul

Tim Couper wrote:
>>As promised, I started to setup a page at the URL
>>http://europython.p3b.org
>>It's far from perfect, but that's the best one
>>online ;-)
>>
> 
> A great start! I'll put a notice up about this page
> this morning at Python 10.
> 
>>What about europython.org ? 
>>Who wants to contribute ?
>>
> 
> I'm unsure who is/are the "point person(s)" for the
> Europython conference, so I'll use the group to offer
> my assistance in giving time to make the EuroPython
> conference a success. If someone could get in touch
> with me about the roles that need filling, I'll see if
> any fit my skillset. Please refer to Marc-Andre for a
> character reference :-)
> 
> Tim
> 
> Dr Tim Couper
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Everything you'll ever need on one web page
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> 
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 





From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb  6 12:58:06 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2002 13:58:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Website for the Conference
References: <20020205121202.87399.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com> <3C611959.2000807@zope.com>
Message-ID: <3C61285E.ADE50C50@lemburg.com>

Paul Everitt wrote:
> 
> FYI, I printed a formatted version of the text supplied by Martijn and
> handed out around 100 copies yesterday.  I also put it on a slide
> announcing upcoming events.

Thanks, Paul !

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb  7 10:55:08 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 11:55:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Website for the Conference
In-Reply-To: <1012924752.3c60015102520@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <20020205121319.16403.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> <1012924752.3c60015102520@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020207105508.GA9397@vet.uu.nl>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> Yes, it is - especially the cartoon! ;-)
> 
> Unless I'm the only one slightly confused about this,
> I suggest to refocus the wording just a bit to say if 
> the conference is mainly about Python ("Euro-Python") 
> or mainly about Zope ("European Python-Zope Developers")
> or equally well about both. 
> 
> In fact, I see eurozope.org for the first time now, be-
> ing mentioned in the URL lists, but I guess this does
> not make it clearer, at least not to me.
> 
> OTOH, if everybody else is much smarter than I am, then
> please forget what I wrote...

It's a good question; many people will have this concern. I *tried* to
make Python prominent as I think it's absolutely essential to say
'Python' primarily and Zope only secondarily so as we get as broad a
range of Pythoneers as possible. But of course many of the organizers
know each other from the European Zope community, so the effects are going
to show.

When I start mailing the press release to all the places Marc-Andre
was suggesting (today and tomorrow).. I'll just try to add a bit before
talking about this.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb  7 11:05:04 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 12:05:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Website for the Conference
In-Reply-To: <20020205121319.16403.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <E16XmUn-0003wB-00@mail.python.org> <20020205121319.16403.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020207110504.GB9397@vet.uu.nl>

Tim Couper wrote:
> > 
> > As promised, I started to setup a page at the URL
> > http://europython.p3b.org
> > It's far from perfect, but that's the best one
> > online ;-)
> 
> A great start! I'll put a notice up about this page
> this morning at Python 10.

What's the status on the www.europython.org site? Last I knew I'd made
all the right people talk to each other... :) I'd like to get that one
up and running asap.

> > What about europython.org ? 
> > Who wants to contribute ?
> 
> I'm unsure who is/are the "point person(s)" for the
> Europython conference, so I'll use the group to offer
> my assistance in giving time to make the EuroPython
> conference a success. 

The group is really the point person, but I suppose I could be described
as one of the organizers, so message received. Thanks!

You can offer immediate assistance in figuring out what happened with
europython.org. Talk to:

ivo@amaze.nl (Ivo van Wijk from Amaze, zope hosting provider in the
Netherlands who offered to host it)

Thomas Reulbach <thomas@reulbach.com>, has the domain, is willing to
do whatever is required to make it all work.

Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org> -- since Nicolas is organizing
all kinds of important stuff this month we can expect less from him; 
you'd be replacing him in trying to put the website together.

And Denis (<spirou@colnet.carolo.net>) who has a website up already. We
need to move the material over there to a few pages on the www.europython.org
site as soon as possible. And get rid of the 'Developers' word in the
conference title as I see it on the web page. The conference title is as it's
in the press release, and can be shortened to EuroPython (2002).

Your job would be to nag everybody until it works, hopefully by today or
tomorrow. Then you can get back to me and others over here so we can
flesh out some more of the text that should go on this site.

> If someone could get in touch
> with me about the roles that need filling, I'll see if
> any fit my skillset. Please refer to Marc-Andre for a
> character reference :-)

Hm, well, the first thing that was in my mind was the role I described
just now. Once that's moving along we can come up with something better.

Regards,

Martijn (too busy to nag :)



From tim@2wave.net  Thu Feb  7 13:37:55 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 13:37:55 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Website for the Conference
In-Reply-To: <20020207110504.GB9397@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020207133755.9930.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>

OK Martijn, I've started the e-investigation. I'll be
out of contact for the rest of today with travel 'n'
all, but should be back in contact Friday. For the
newsgroup, it would be really great if some of the
good people mentioned below could email me anyway :-)

Tim

 --- Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl> wrote: 
>> Tim Couper wrote:

> You can offer immediate assistance in figuring out
> what happened with
> europython.org. Talk to:
> 
> ivo@amaze.nl (Ivo van Wijk from Amaze, zope hosting
> provider in the
> Netherlands who offered to host it)
> 
> Thomas Reulbach <thomas@reulbach.com>, has the
> domain, is willing to
> do whatever is required to make it all work.
> 
> Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org> --
> since Nicolas is organizing
> all kinds of important stuff this month we can
> expect less from him; 
> you'd be replacing him in trying to put the website
> together.
> 
> And Denis (<spirou@colnet.carolo.net>) who has a
> website up already. We
> need to move the material over there to a few pages
> on the www.europython.org
> site as soon as possible. And get rid of the
> 'Developers' word in the
> conference title as I see it on the web page. The
> conference title is as it's
> in the press release, and can be shortened to
> EuroPython (2002).
> 
> Your job would be to nag everybody until it works,
> hopefully by today or
> tomorrow. Then you can get back to me and others
> over here so we can
> flesh out some more of the text that should go on
> this site.
> 


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From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb  7 14:02:35 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:02:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Website for the Conference
In-Reply-To: <20020207133755.9930.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020207110504.GB9397@vet.uu.nl> <20020207133755.9930.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020207140235.GA9892@vet.uu.nl>

Tim Couper wrote:
> OK Martijn, I've started the e-investigation. I'll be
> out of contact for the rest of today with travel 'n'
> all, but should be back in contact Friday. For the
> newsgroup, it would be really great if some of the
> good people mentioned below could email me anyway :-)

I just heard from Ivo that Nicolas has the login info, and just got the
login info from Ivo myself, whee! If people want an account on the 
site, currently europython.zope.nl until pending DNS changes, please
mail me and I'll make you manager.

Then next job needs to be the repointing of www.europython.org. Thomas
Reulbach needs to talk to Ivo. Ivo suggested changing the DNS records but
Thomas hasn't responded to him yet on that, he said. cc of this mail
going to Thomas Reulbach; please mail to ivo@amaze.nl on that or any
other solution that'll get www.europython.org into the air as soon as
possible?

I'll put up a little site for starters with the press release.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb  7 14:36:06 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 15:36:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] the website
Message-ID: <20020207143606.GA10054@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

A very minimal website is now at europython.zope.nl, to be renamed
to www.europython.org as soon as possible. I've just put up a
(slightly modified) press release. Any comments on that should go
to the list soon, as I'll be sending it out to the world shortly.

Anyone with particular skill and desire to help out with the site design
should mail me for a Zope login. Watch this space for announcements, as
I'll be passing off the responsibility of handling the technical details of
that site as well as the design off to various other folks as soon as 
I can. :)

I will however be helping to organize the contents of the site. The next
bit after the press release will be a call for papers. Since I seem to
be heading the program committee as well, um..who wants to help with that?
I need someone to lead the Zope track (and you will have one speaker already:
me..can talk about Zope and XML as well as Formulator), and folks to help with
the Python track. Also if people want to do tutorials please come up with
some ideas. :) Perhaps a Formulator tutorial wouldn't be a bad idea in
fact..

Regards,

Martijn



From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb  7 16:46:04 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 17:46:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] the website
References: <20020207143606.GA10054@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C62AF4C.6D995E90@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> The next
> bit after the press release will be a call for papers. Since I seem to
> be heading the program committee as well, um..who wants to help with that?
> I need someone to lead the Zope track (and you will have one speaker already:
> me..can talk about Zope and XML as well as Formulator), and folks to help with
> the Python track. Also if people want to do tutorials please come up with
> some ideas. :) Perhaps a Formulator tutorial wouldn't be a bad idea in
> fact..

I could help organize one of the Python tracks... which topics
are we talking about ? I'd be interested in a web services track 
(even though there is currently one at IPC10, this is a hot 
subject).

Another topic I'd be interested in is "Python and Business" --
this could be a discussion or a lightning talks session. The basic
idea is to talk about problems and solution managers and developers
face in everyday business when dealing with Python in project 
settings, e.g. how to convince a manager to use Python instead of
FooBar in a project, epxerience with various business models
built around Python, etc.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb  7 19:22:51 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 20:22:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference program (was: the website)
In-Reply-To: <3C62AF4C.6D995E90@lemburg.com>
References: <20020207143606.GA10054@vet.uu.nl> <3C62AF4C.6D995E90@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020207192251.GA11059@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Martijn Faassen wrote:
> > 
> > The next
> > bit after the press release will be a call for papers. Since I seem to
> > be heading the program committee as well, um..who wants to help with that?
> > I need someone to lead the Zope track (and you will have one speaker already:
> > me..can talk about Zope and XML as well as Formulator), and folks to help with
> > the Python track. Also if people want to do tutorials please come up with
> > some ideas. :) Perhaps a Formulator tutorial wouldn't be a bad idea in
> > fact..
> 
> I could help organize one of the Python tracks... which topics
> are we talking about ? I'd be interested in a web services track 
> (even though there is currently one at IPC10, this is a hot 
> subject).

Perhaps the first question to answer would be 'how many tracks are
we going to have'? We were thinking unambitiously about a Python track
and a Zope track, as well as tutorials and BoFs, but if:

  * we expect sufficient speakers

  * we expect sufficient attendees

  * we expect sufficient interest

  * and we have enough room

We could run two or more Python tracks.

> Another topic I'd be interested in is "Python and Business" --
> this could be a discussion or a lightning talks session.
> The basic idea is to talk about problems and solution managers and developers
> face in everyday business when dealing with Python in project 
> settings, e.g. how to convince a manager to use Python instead of
> FooBar in a project, epxerience with various business models
> built around Python, etc.

Yes, this sounds good for a BoF with some structure (some speakers).

Regards,

Martijn



From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Fri Feb  8 05:29:41 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 06:29:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] www.europython.org web site coordination
Message-ID: <E16Z3bU-0001Nh-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Dear all,

This message (included the necessary management information loke login an=
d =20
password) has been sent to Denis and Martijn for further care has they ar=
e=20
more active than I am.

I should get back on the list soon.

Thank you all for your work.

Best regards, and keep on the good work,

Nicolas

----------  Message transmis  ----------

Subject: Fwd: Re: www.europython.org coordination
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 06:13:25 +0100
From: Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be>
To: Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>, Denis Frere <spirou@aragne.com>

Dear Martijn and Denis,

I have received this mail 2 days ago from Ivo at Amaze.

I just had no time since to do anything.

Now, I see The Great Denis is back on track, he has preapared a first bas=
ic
site at europyhton.os3b.org, you have already done much other things and =
are
talking on the europyhton list faster than I can react.

I propos therefore to retract from the proposed starting maintenance of t=
he
site as I am unable to follow (I am just too bad at that, hence too slow,=
 and
now there are other people - you)

I'll get back to work with you on the program soon, but let you do the we=
b
activities if possible.

Please not the this message contains a password, hence I cannot publish i=
t to
the europython list.

Do use it the base way you can.

Best regards,

Nicolas


------
Re: europython.org ...
Date : Tue, 5 Feb 2002 12:57:28 +0100
De : Ivo van der Wijk <ivo@amaze.nl>
 =C0 : Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org>

 Hi,

I've setup a zope hosting account for you. It can be accessed through
http://europython.zope.nl/manage=A0with username XXXXXXXXX and
password ZZZZZZZZZZ

Once the www A record for europython points to ip 213.244.176.141,
this should work as well.

With regards,

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Ivo

On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 05:13:09AM +0100, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
>=A0Le Mercredi 30 Janvier 2002 01:14, Thomas Reulbach a =E9crit :
>=A0
>=A0Thank you very much for your mail.
>=A0
>=A0> as I stated earlier in mails to Martijn and Ivo it is absolutely no

problem

>=A0> to point the domain europython.org to a zopeserver with the confere=
nce
>=A0> website. Just send me an address and I will be pleased to do so to =
give
> it > a start.
>=A0
>=A0I just have had no time to take care of the problem.
>=A0
>=A0Could Ivo setup a basic site to which europython.org would be pointin=
g, so
>=A0that I can start to fill it in next week with information about the
>=A0conference.
>=A0
>=A0> If you would like to have a german translation or some proofreading=
 for

the

>=A0> website I would be willing to do so, too. Looking forward.
>=A0
>=A0Thank you for your help.
>=A0
>=A0Best regards,
>=A0
>=A0Nicolas
>=A0> Thomas

----------  Message transmis  ----------

Subject: Re: www.europython.org coordination
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:12:24 +0100
From: Ivo van der Wijk <ivo@amaze.nl>
To: Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org>
Cc: Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>, Thomas Reulbach
<thomas@reulbach.com>, Denis Frere <spirou@aragne.com>

Hi all,

> Yes, I'll start to put there a little page and basis information.
>
> Could you give me access to this zope site and install as product (the
> first one I need : structured text)

I will setup a Zope folder asap. What exactly do you need with structured
text? Zope supports stx by default, but there's also a ZClass product
called StructuredText - do you want this installed?

Also, for the DNS hosting, there are 2 options:

- make eurozope.org/www.eurozope.org point to our webserver (213.244.176.=
131)
or
- Amaze becomes authoritative DNS for the entire zone.

Also, if we need to do mailhosting as well, MX records have to be configu=
red
as well, so the latter option might be the easiest.

With regards,

=09Ivo van der Wijk


--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Fri Feb  8 05:31:57 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 06:31:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Website for the Conference
In-Reply-To: <3C611959.2000807@zope.com>
References: <20020205121202.87399.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com> <3C611959.2000807@zope.com>
Message-ID: <E16Z3de-0001Pn-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Mercredi 6 F=E9vrier 2002 12:54, Paul Everitt a =E9crit :
> FYI, I printed a formatted version of the text supplied by Martijn and
> handed out around 100 copies yesterday.  I also put it on a slide
> announcing upcoming events.
>
> --Paul

Thanks Paul.

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Fri Feb  8 05:39:11 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 06:39:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Todo list for euro python and zope conf.
Message-ID: <E16Z3ke-0001T2-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

THe ASWAD team has had much success in preparing its documents for a rece=
nt=20
proposal directly in structured text in a cmf wiki prepared by Alastair B=
urt=20
(thanks again Alastair). THanks to him, it was possible to extract=20
automatically the text into a pdf of html file to be exported or mailed.

Maybe the commitee, made of the active membres so far, MA Lemburg, Tim=20
Cooper, Martijn, Denis, Andy Robinson and maybe myself too, could use suc=
h a=20
tool to prepare the document we shall need: press release very soon, prog=
rams=20
and other.

I would suggest putting a TODO management tool (what has to be done, with=
=20
what urgency/priority, who will do it ...) in place too. I don't know suc=
h a=20
zope tool yet, but I am very intrested in getting to know such a product,=
 and=20
I would suspect it not to be too difficult to develop in zope for someone=
 who=20
knows zope better than I am.

Best regards,

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From sf@fermigier.com  Fri Feb  8 10:27:03 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 11:27:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Todo list for euro python and zope conf.
In-Reply-To: <E16Z3ke-0001T2-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>; from nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org on Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 06:39:11AM +0100
References: <E16Z3ke-0001T2-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020208112703.E95802@math.jussieu.fr>

On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 06:39:11AM +0100, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> THe ASWAD team has had much success in preparing its documents for a re=
cent=20
> proposal directly in structured text in a cmf wiki prepared by Alastair=
 Burt=20
> (thanks again Alastair). THanks to him, it was possible to extract=20
> automatically the text into a pdf of html file to be exported or mailed.
>=20
> Maybe the commitee, made of the active membres so far, MA Lemburg, Tim=20
> Cooper, Martijn, Denis, Andy Robinson and maybe myself too, could use s=
uch a=20
> tool to prepare the document we shall need: press release very soon, pr=
ograms=20
> and other.
>=20
> I would suggest putting a TODO management tool (what has to be done, wi=
th=20
> what urgency/priority, who will do it ...) in place too. I don't know s=
uch a=20
> zope tool yet, but I am very intrested in getting to know such a produc=
t, and=20
> I would suspect it not to be too difficult to develop in zope for someo=
ne who=20
> knows zope better than I am.

Right.

But I suggest we start with a Wiki first.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb  8 11:12:34 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 12:12:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Todo list for euro python and zope conf.
References: <E16Z3ke-0001T2-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <3C63B2A2.938E072F@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> 
> THe ASWAD team has had much success in preparing its documents for a recent
> proposal directly in structured text in a cmf wiki prepared by Alastair Burt
> (thanks again Alastair). THanks to him, it was possible to extract
> automatically the text into a pdf of html file to be exported or mailed.

Sounds like a good idea. Can we have one of those for the development
of those documents ? (It doesn't really have to be on the europython.org
domain; just somewhere where we know how to find it ;-)
 
> Maybe the commitee, made of the active membres so far, MA Lemburg, Tim
> Cooper, Martijn, Denis, Andy Robinson and maybe myself too, could use such a
> tool to prepare the document we shall need: press release very soon, programs
> and other.

Agreed.
 
> I would suggest putting a TODO management tool (what has to be done, with
> what urgency/priority, who will do it ...) in place too. I don't know such a
> zope tool yet, but I am very intrested in getting to know such a product, and
> I would suspect it not to be too difficult to develop in zope for someone who
> knows zope better than I am.

That would be nice, however, we don't have time to wait for someone
to write up such a tool. Let's just use a plain text file (or wiki)
for this.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From burt@dfki.de  Fri Feb  8 11:54:56 2002
From: burt@dfki.de (Alastair Burt)
Date: 08 Feb 2002 12:54:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Todo list for euro python and zope conf.
In-Reply-To: <3C63B2A2.938E072F@lemburg.com>
References: <E16Z3ke-0001T2-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
 <3C63B2A2.938E072F@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <vg8za4194f.fsf@mastiff.dfki.uni-sb.de>

"M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com> writes:

> Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> >=20
> > THe ASWAD team has had much success in preparing its documents for a re=
cent
> > proposal directly in structured text in a cmf wiki prepared by Alastair=
 Burt
> > (thanks again Alastair). THanks to him, it was possible to extract
> > automatically the text into a pdf of html file to be exported or mailed.

The way I did it was not very sophisticated.=20

  - The Wiki had a Python call to return an HTML verison of the Wiki page
    without the comments at the bottom.

  - I used Zope's templating language to stitch the HTML together into one
    big file.

  - For tables etc., I forgot the structured text and just used HTML
    directly.

  - I passed the HTML to "html2ps":http://www.tdb.uu.se/~jan/html2psug.html
    to get a PostScript file.

  - I passed the PostScript to
    "ps2pdf":http://stat.tamu.edu/doc/gs/Ps2pdf.htm to get the final PDF.

The resulting document looks reasonably clean -- you can use style sheets
with html2ps, and TeX hyphenation files. A more politically correct
architecture would be to generate XML-FOP code directly from the structured
text DOM tree, but I did not have the time to hack that up.

> > I would suggest putting a TODO management tool (what has to be done, wi=
th
> > what urgency/priority, who will do it ...) in place too. I don't know s=
uch a
> > zope tool yet, but I am very intrested in getting to know such a produc=
t, and
> > I would suspect it not to be too difficult to develop in zope for someo=
ne who
> > knows zope better than I am.
>=20
> That would be nice, however, we don't have time to wait for someone
> to write up such a tool. Let's just use a plain text file (or wiki)
> for this.

I used a Zope Wiki hack here, too. If you put the WikiName ToDoAlastair in
Wiki pages that Alastair has to fill out, then 'ToDoAlastair/backlinks'
will give you a clickable list of all those pages.

I must say, I quite like structured text and Wikis, but not everyone
does. Many of the ASWAD partners just emailed me .doc files of content that
I pasted into the Wiki myself.

--- Alastair

--=20
---
----
Alastair Burt
Project Coordinator ASWAD (http://dfki.de/aswad)
German Centre for AI (DFKI), Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3
Saarbr=FCcken 66123, Germany=20=09=09=09=09=09=09
Email: burt@dfki.de
Tel: +49 681 302 2565
Fax: +49 681 302 2235



From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb  8 14:03:12 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 15:03:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Todo list for euro python and zope conf.
References: <E16Z3ke-0001T2-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
 <3C63B2A2.938E072F@lemburg.com> <vg8za4194f.fsf@mastiff.dfki.uni-sb.de>
Message-ID: <3C63DAA0.B5D1D12B@lemburg.com>

Alastair Burt wrote:
> 
> "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com> writes:
> 
> > Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> > >
> > > THe ASWAD team has had much success in preparing its documents for a recent
> > > proposal directly in structured text in a cmf wiki prepared by Alastair Burt
> > > (thanks again Alastair). THanks to him, it was possible to extract
> > > automatically the text into a pdf of html file to be exported or mailed.
> 
> The way I did it was not very sophisticated.
> 
>   - The Wiki had a Python call to return an HTML verison of the Wiki page
>     without the comments at the bottom.
> 
>   - I used Zope's templating language to stitch the HTML together into one
>     big file.
> 
>   - For tables etc., I forgot the structured text and just used HTML
>     directly.
> 
>   - I passed the HTML to "html2ps":http://www.tdb.uu.se/~jan/html2psug.html
>     to get a PostScript file.
> 
>   - I passed the PostScript to
>     "ps2pdf":http://stat.tamu.edu/doc/gs/Ps2pdf.htm to get the final PDF.
> 
> The resulting document looks reasonably clean -- you can use style sheets
> with html2ps, and TeX hyphenation files. A more politically correct
> architecture would be to generate XML-FOP code directly from the structured
> text DOM tree, but I did not have the time to hack that up.

If it's only about converting HTML to PDF I could help: Acrobat5 has a nice
web capture tool which converts HTML into PDF rather nicely, e.g. we
could go from the "print" view of wiki directly to PDF.

The only problem is that it's manual work, but if we only do
this for finished documents, it should be within range :-)

> > > I would suggest putting a TODO management tool (what has to be done, with
> > > what urgency/priority, who will do it ...) in place too. I don't know such a
> > > zope tool yet, but I am very intrested in getting to know such a product, and
> > > I would suspect it not to be too difficult to develop in zope for someone who
> > > knows zope better than I am.
> >
> > That would be nice, however, we don't have time to wait for someone
> > to write up such a tool. Let's just use a plain text file (or wiki)
> > for this.
> 
> I used a Zope Wiki hack here, too. If you put the WikiName ToDoAlastair in
> Wiki pages that Alastair has to fill out, then 'ToDoAlastair/backlinks'
> will give you a clickable list of all those pages.
> 
> I must say, I quite like structured text and Wikis, but not everyone
> does. Many of the ASWAD partners just emailed me .doc files of content that
> I pasted into the Wiki myself.

I don't have Zope experience, but if europython.org will use Zope
then adding the ZWiki shouldn't be much of a problem (in theory ;-).

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From tim@2wave.net  Fri Feb  8 15:15:45 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 15:15:45 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <E16YrvF-0007hb-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20020208151545.95608.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com>

Marc-Andre wrote 
> I could help organize one of the Python tracks...
> which topics
> are we talking about ? I'd be interested in a web
> services track 
> (even though there is currently one at IPC10, this
> is a hot 
> subject).

The subject certainly would bear a revisit, as I'm
sure that European techies are just as confused about
SOAP and our US counterparts. 

I'd suggest an intro which covered XML-RPC and then
SOAP (differentiating between its XML-RPC
manifestation and its XML wrapping functionality).
Paul Prescod has material which I'm sure could be
reused here. 

I spoke with Mike Olson from 4Suite, who said that he
was considering coming to the conference anyway. He
and Uche did some really good presentations in the Web
Services track, covering the whole XML space,
including, among other things, RDF. Depending on the
experience level of the attendees, we could maybe have
an intro to XML, including SAX and DOM for those who
only know how to spell them. Again, the 4Suite guys
may be good at this.
 
> Another topic I'd be interested in is "Python and
> Business" --
> this could be a discussion or a lightning talks
> session. The basic
> idea is to talk about problems and solution managers
> and developers
> face in everyday business when dealing with Python
> in project 
> settings, e.g. how to convince a manager to use
> Python instead of
> FooBar in a project, epxerience with various
> business models
> built around Python, etc.

This is the area I'm very interested in, and would be
offer to run this track; whether it is called "Python
and Business" or more like "Python in the Real World".
One of the weaknesses of open source systems is the
almost complete absence of a marketing presence; this
is considered a virtue by many :-). However, it is
clear that the quality or effectiveness of technology
per se does not cause it to be adopted; on the
contrary, it is consumer perception, which is why
companies employ marketing people! 

BTW In this context, I think that Jython can also be a
key entry point; are we planning to have anything on
that topic from a technical perspective?

Anyway, the outcome of this track should be
participants leaving with "models" and greater
understanding of the external world in which
developers and vendors reside, and tools and
strategies which can be practically employed to
further the growth of Python. The lightning talks idea
is a good one, ensuring that contributors are clear
that their talk needs to add to the body of knowledge
about the hows and whys of the adoption (or
non-adoption) of Python/Jython within the
organisation, or the successful routes to sales of
product which have a Python/Jython content, and how
they have had to shape their product presentations to
suit their customers' perspectives. It would be good
to hear Andy Robinson, for instance, on the subject.

This of course assumes that the partipants in the
conference will be interested in more than just the
technology...

Tim



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From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb  8 15:16:30 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:16:30 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
Message-ID: <20020208151630.GB14597@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

I've sent the press release at the end to comp.lang.python.announce,
LWN, LinuxToday and NewsForge. I'd like this to go to more places,
but it's a start. Perhaps someone would like to help? :)

Announce: European Python and Zope Conference 2002
 
European Python and Zope Conference 2002 (EuroPython 2002)
June 26-28, 2002
Charleroi, Belgium
http://www.europython.org
 
The European Python and Zope Conference is an initiative to bring
together European Python and Zope users and developers. This is also
an opportunity for those who are interested in these technologies to
learn more about them. This will be the first major European event
dedicated solely to the Python programming language and its
applications. Since Python is seeing a lot of use and much important
Python software is developed in Europe, European Python community
members felt it was high time to organize a major gathering.

We are extremely proud to announce that one of the keynote speakers
will be Guido van Rossum, the creator of Python.
 
The event will be held in Charleroi, a city in the south of Belgium
not far from Brussels. The authorities in Charleroi have also
generously pledged support for this meeting.

Special Zope Track and EuroZope members meeting

A special conference track about the Python-based web application Zope
will also be organized. This track is to be run in parallel with the
track on Python. Conference attendees can freely pick and choose
between talks on Python and more Zope specific topics.

At a previous Zope gathering in 2001 the EuroZope Foundation was
created. The EuroZope Foundation is dedicated to the promotion of Zope
in Europe as well as the support of European Zope users and
developers. EuroPython 2002 is happy to host the first general
member's meeting of the EuroZope Foundation.

More information

More information will be announced soon at http://www.europython.org. 
More community participation is very welcome! If you feel inspired to
help with the organization of this event, we can always use your help.
As a first step, please subscribe to the EuroPython mailing list at:

http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From sf@fermigier.com  Fri Feb  8 15:35:38 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 16:35:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <20020208151630.GB14597@vet.uu.nl>; from faassen@vet.uu.nl on Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 04:16:30PM +0100
References: <20020208151630.GB14597@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020208163538.B50868@math.jussieu.fr>

On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 04:16:30PM +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hi there,
>=20
> I've sent the press release at the end to comp.lang.python.announce,
> LWN, LinuxToday and NewsForge. I'd like this to go to more places,
> but it's a start. Perhaps someone would like to help? :)

The press release is OK for comp.lang.python.announce, LWN, LinuxToday an=
d
NewsForge, but for a more general audience, we should add a paragraph "ab=
out
Python".

It should be made very clear that Python is free software / open source,
and it's widely used by successful projects.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb  8 15:55:21 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 16:55:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020208151630.GB14597@vet.uu.nl> <20020208163538.B50868@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <3C63F4E9.39E948C1@lemburg.com>

Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 04:16:30PM +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I've sent the press release at the end to comp.lang.python.announce,
> > LWN, LinuxToday and NewsForge. I'd like this to go to more places,
> > but it's a start. Perhaps someone would like to help? :)
> 
> The press release is OK for comp.lang.python.announce, LWN, LinuxToday and
> NewsForge, but for a more general audience, we should add a paragraph "about
> Python".
> 
> It should be made very clear that Python is free software / open source,
> and it's widely used by successful projects.

Right and for press people to understand this, you should also
add the usual press-release-mumbo-jumbo... please have a look at:

	http://www.python10.org/p10-media3.html

Here's a short blurb about Python:
"""
Python is an object-oriented Open Source programming language which
runs on all modern platforms (http://www.python.org/). By integrating
ease-of-use, clarity in coding, enterprise application connectivity
and rapid application design, Python establishes an ideal programming
platform for todays IT challenges.
"""

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From someone@arbitrary.org  Fri Feb  8 18:49:37 2002
From: someone@arbitrary.org (Joseph Santaniello)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 10:49:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202081037560.21512-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202081040210.21512-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>

Tim Couper wrote:
> 
> Marc-Andre wrote 
> > I could help organize one of the Python tracks...
> > which topics

[snip]

>  
> > Another topic I'd be interested in is "Python and
> > Business" --
> > this could be a discussion or a lightning talks
> > session. The basic
> > idea is to talk about problems and solution managers
> > and developers
> > face in everyday business when dealing with Python
> > in project 
> > settings, e.g. how to convince a manager to use
> > Python instead of
> > FooBar in a project, epxerience with various
> > business models
> > built around Python, etc.
> 
> This is the area I'm very interested in, and would be
> offer to run this track; whether it is called "Python
> and Business" or more like "Python in the Real World".
> One of the weaknesses of open source systems is the
> almost complete absence of a marketing presence; this
> is considered a virtue by many :-). However, it is
> clear that the quality or effectiveness of technology
> per se does not cause it to be adopted; on the
> contrary, it is consumer perception, which is why
> companies employ marketing people! 

[snip]

Hello All, 

I'm new to this list, but I look forward to attending the conference. I'm 
in the US now, but am moving to Europe in a few months, and look forward 
to getting into the scene.

I find this topic of "Python in Business" or whatever quite interesting,
and Tim if you are going to run this track, I'd be happy to help out. 
Perhaps my experiences bucking the trend and navigating the political
intrigues necessary to get the finance company where I work to adopt
Python and Zope for it's most critical systems will provide some
interesting background for part of the development of such a track.

Joseph




From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb  8 19:38:54 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:38:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C63F4E9.39E948C1@lemburg.com>
References: <20020208151630.GB14597@vet.uu.nl> <20020208163538.B50868@math.jussieu.fr> <3C63F4E9.39E948C1@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020208193854.GA16229@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> > The press release is OK for comp.lang.python.announce, LWN, LinuxToday and
> > NewsForge, but for a more general audience, we should add a paragraph "about
> > Python".

Yup, this was a press release to people who already know what Python is, 
but you're right.

> > It should be made very clear that Python is free software / open source,
> > and it's widely used by successful projects.
> 
> Right and for press people to understand this, you should also
> add the usual press-release-mumbo-jumbo... please have a look at:
> 
> 	http://www.python10.org/p10-media3.html
> 
> Here's a short blurb about Python:
> """
> Python is an object-oriented Open Source programming language which
> runs on all modern platforms (http://www.python.org/). By integrating
> ease-of-use, clarity in coding, enterprise application connectivity
> and rapid application design, Python establishes an ideal programming
> platform for todays IT challenges.
> """

Perhaps you two could get together and work something out? Take the existing
press release and add something like this bit and shake it all up, post
it back to the list.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb  8 19:49:26 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 20:49:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <20020208151545.95608.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <E16YrvF-0007hb-00@mail.python.org> <20020208151545.95608.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020208194926.GB16229@vet.uu.nl>

Tim Couper wrote:
> Marc-Andre wrote 
> > I could help organize one of the Python tracks...
> > which topics
> > are we talking about ? I'd be interested in a web
> > services track 
> > (even though there is currently one at IPC10, this
> > is a hot 
> > subject).
> 
> The subject certainly would bear a revisit, as I'm
> sure that European techies are just as confused about
> SOAP and our US counterparts. 
> 
> I'd suggest an intro which covered XML-RPC and then
> SOAP (differentiating between its XML-RPC
> manifestation and its XML wrapping functionality).
> Paul Prescod has material which I'm sure could be
> reused here.

And perhaps even more importantly, the web services stuff that often is built 
on top of these RPC layers that actually nobody really knows about yet (at
least I don't, and I work with the web daily).

Anyway, Marc-Andre and Tim Couper are now in the team responsible for figuring
out how we'll proceed on web services and the like at EuroPython.

> I spoke with Mike Olson from 4Suite, who said that he
> was considering coming to the conference anyway. He
> and Uche did some really good presentations in the Web
> Services track, covering the whole XML space,
> including, among other things, RDF. Depending on the
> experience level of the attendees, we could maybe have
> an intro to XML, including SAX and DOM for those who
> only know how to spell them. Again, the 4Suite guys
> may be good at this.

There's an overlap with the XML stuff here. I'm interested in XML myself,
though not directly from a web services point of view (more for document
storage/editing/retrieval/searching). We can do something about XML,
definitely. Martin von Loewis knows about this conference and may be willing
to work on this too, for instance.

[snip]
> This is the area I'm very interested in, and would be
> offer to run this track; whether it is called "Python
> and Business" or more like "Python in the Real World".

I know Andy Robinson (I think) said he was interested in such a
thing as well.

> One of the weaknesses of open source systems is the
> almost complete absence of a marketing presence; this
> is considered a virtue by many :-). However, it is
> clear that the quality or effectiveness of technology
> per se does not cause it to be adopted; on the
> contrary, it is consumer perception, which is why
> companies employ marketing people! 
> 
> BTW In this context, I think that Jython can also be a
> key entry point; are we planning to have anything on
> that topic from a technical perspective?

Don't we have a bunch of European Jython hackers? Now what's his name..
Right, Finn Bock in Denmark. I've just sent off an email to him asking
if he's interested.

> Anyway, the outcome of this track should be
> participants leaving with "models" and greater
> understanding of the external world in which
> developers and vendors reside, and tools and
> strategies which can be practically employed to
> further the growth of Python. The lightning talks idea
> is a good one, ensuring that contributors are clear
> that their talk needs to add to the body of knowledge
> about the hows and whys of the adoption (or
> non-adoption) of Python/Jython within the
> organisation, or the successful routes to sales of
> product which have a Python/Jython content, and how
> they have had to shape their product presentations to
> suit their customers' perspectives. It would be good
> to hear Andy Robinson, for instance, on the subject.
> 
> This of course assumes that the partipants in the
> conference will be interested in more than just the
> technology...

I certainly would be; Infrae (my company) is a small Python/Zope startup.
I think this could definitely draw some interest.

Regards,

Martijn



From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb  8 20:04:08 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 21:04:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020208151630.GB14597@vet.uu.nl> <20020208163538.B50868@math.jussieu.fr> <3C63F4E9.39E948C1@lemburg.com> <20020208193854.GA16229@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C642F38.5EFDFCD3@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
>
> [...preparing the press release for *press* release ;-)...]
>
> Perhaps you two could get together and work something out? Take the existing
> press release and add something like this bit and shake it all up, post
> it back to the list.

Ok, but we'll need some more background info about the organizers,
e.g. name of a company, address, press-contact, phone numbers, 
some bios, etc.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb  8 20:10:22 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 21:10:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Website update
Message-ID: <20020208201022.GC16229@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

http://www.europython.org now points to the new still empty website. 
I'll repeat my call for someone doing the web design; pushing it a 
leeetle bit beyond its current minimalistic design would be a good idea. :)

Tom Deprez is already working on it all. If you want to help, contact
either me or him to get a Zope login.

Thanks to Ivo van der Wijk and Thomas Reulbach for getting the ball
running on the website! 

Thanks to Ivo we now also have wiki capability on this website; you can
add ZWiki objects. I've set up a completely minimal wiki at:

http://www.europython.org/wiki

Wiki away! Let me know if you need anything. Right now it's completely
open to everybody, but perhaps we want to change that later.

Regards,

Martijn



From andy@reportlab.com  Fri Feb  8 12:40:55 2002
From: andy@reportlab.com (Andy Robinson)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:40:55 -0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Todo list for euro python and zope conf.
In-Reply-To: <vg8za4194f.fsf@mastiff.dfki.uni-sb.de>
Message-ID: <LKENLBBMDHMKBECHIAIAEEOGCDAA.andy@reportlab.com>

>   - I passed the PostScript to
>     "ps2pdf":http://stat.tamu.edu/doc/gs/Ps2pdf.htm to get the final PDF.
> 
> The resulting document looks reasonably clean -- you can use style sheets
> with html2ps, and TeX hyphenation files. A more politically correct
> architecture would be to generate XML-FOP code directly from the 
> structured
> text DOM tree, but I did not have the time to hack that up.

Work out the requirements and a mockup of what you would like,
and ReportLab will produce tools to go straight from source 
to PDF in one step in Python. The company boss is on the committee, 
and it's what we do for a living after all :-)

Likewise we would be happy to make web wizards to let people
generate/preview their conference badges, programs which canm
be rebuilt from source in seconds etc.

- Andy Robinson
p.s. off line now until late tonight



From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Fri Feb  8 20:48:49 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 21:48:49 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Todo list for euro python and zope conf.
In-Reply-To: <LKENLBBMDHMKBECHIAIAEEOGCDAA.andy@reportlab.com>
References: <LKENLBBMDHMKBECHIAIAEEOGCDAA.andy@reportlab.com>
Message-ID: <1013201329.3c6439b1bc1fd@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Andy Robinson <andy@reportlab.com>:

> Work out the requirements and a mockup of what you would like,
> and ReportLab will produce tools to go straight from source 
> to PDF in one step in Python. The company boss is on the committee, 
> and it's what we do for a living after all :-)
> 
> Likewise we would be happy to make web wizards to let people
> generate/preview their conference badges, programs which canm
> be rebuilt from source in seconds etc.

Yep, I can donnate my business card script right away
or even implement the final one with the official 
EuroPython design (if I knew what that actually is...).
If someone has an "official style guide" and/or logos,
dump them right on me or point me to them...

Regards,

Dinu


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb  8 21:48:28 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 22:48:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C642F38.5EFDFCD3@lemburg.com>
References: <20020208151630.GB14597@vet.uu.nl> <20020208163538.B50868@math.jussieu.fr> <3C63F4E9.39E948C1@lemburg.com> <20020208193854.GA16229@vet.uu.nl> <3C642F38.5EFDFCD3@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020208214828.GA16929@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Martijn Faassen wrote:
> >
> > [...preparing the press release for *press* release ;-)...]
> >
> > Perhaps you two could get together and work something out? Take the existing
> > press release and add something like this bit and shake it all up, post
> > it back to the list.
> 
> Ok, but we'll need some more background info about the organizers,
> e.g. name of a company, address, press-contact, phone numbers, 
> some bios, etc.

um, okay..that's just us on the list. :)

A press contact would be good, phone numbers we need to discuss.

Regards,

Martijn



From bckfnn@worldonline.dk  Fri Feb  8 22:47:31 2002
From: bckfnn@worldonline.dk (Finn Bock)
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2002 22:47:31 GMT
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
Message-ID: <3c64363e.46035976@mail.wanadoo.dk>

[Martijn Faassen]

>Don't we have a bunch of European Jython hackers? Now what's his name..
>Right, Finn Bock in Denmark. 

And Samuele Pedroni with a .ch domain.

>I've just sent off an email to him asking if he's interested.

I am. Not sure what kind of topics you have been discussing, but if you
are looking for a session where I go over a number of the technical
issues and decissions that faces jython, then I could do that.

regards,
finn


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Sat Feb  9 03:53:50 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 04:53:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Website update
In-Reply-To: <20020208201022.GC16229@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020208201022.GC16229@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020209045350.I31142@carolo.net>

Le Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 09:10:22PM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> Hi there,

Hi all,

> http://www.europython.org now points to the new still empty website.=20
> I'll repeat my call for someone doing the web design; pushing it a=20
> leeetle bit beyond its current minimalistic design would be a good idea=
. :)
>=20
> Tom Deprez is already working on it all. If you want to help, contact
> either me or him to get a Zope login.
>
> Thanks to Ivo van der Wijk and Thomas Reulbach for getting the ball
> running on the website!=20

And thanks to you too for the first steps !

As local players, I think our best participation would be to give local
information (access, hotels, ...). I've set up a page "where" that we'll
try to fill at best.

We will translate the press release in French during this weekend, too.

Apart from this, I keep getting contacts to welcome you as you deserve.

A bient=F4t,

--=20
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org=20
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Sat Feb  9 04:35:45 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 05:35:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <20020208151545.95608.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <E16YrvF-0007hb-00@mail.python.org> <20020208151545.95608.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020209053545.J31142@carolo.net>

- web services track (XML-RPC, SOAP, RDF, ...)
- Python and Business (+ administrations ?)
- Jython
- ...
Great !

What do you think about Education in a CP4E point of view ?
(I guess some advanced developpers could be uninterested, but ...
what's exactly our target ?)

Dodo.

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Sat Feb  9 06:25:00 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 07:25:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Todo list for euro python and zope conf.
In-Reply-To: <1013201329.3c6439b1bc1fd@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <LKENLBBMDHMKBECHIAIAEEOGCDAA.andy@reportlab.com> <1013201329.3c6439b1bc1fd@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <E16ZQwX-000874-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Vendredi 8 F=E9vrier 2002 21:48, Dinu Gherman a =E9crit :
> Andy Robinson <andy@reportlab.com>:
> > Work out the requirements and a mockup of what you would like,
> > and ReportLab will produce tools to go straight from source
> > to PDF in one step in Python. The company boss is on the committee,
> > and it's what we do for a living after all :-)

Great idea. Thank you.

> > Likewise we would be happy to make web wizards to let people
> > generate/preview their conference badges, programs which canm
> > be rebuilt from source in seconds etc.
>
> Yep, I can donnate my business card script right away
> or even implement the final one with the official
> EuroPython design (if I knew what that actually is...).
> If someone has an "official style guide" and/or logos,
> dump them right on me or point me to them...

Great crontribution. Thank you.

I fully support he idea to have the people entering thei coordinate ONCE=20
though the web to register, and use these information afterwards to gener=
ate=20
the entrance badges.

Is there any of you, Andy, Dinu who would coordinate that point and the=20
set-up of the tool on the europython.org site with the person who will=20
coordinate the whole site ?

Thanks,

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Sat Feb  9 08:01:59 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 09:01:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <20020208194926.GB16229@vet.uu.nl>
References: <E16YrvF-0007hb-00@mail.python.org> <20020208151545.95608.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> <20020208194926.GB16229@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <E16ZSSO-0000ZY-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Just to propose a summary so far about the tracks for the Europython/zope=
=20
conference:

+ intro about XML-RPC and then SOAP (differentiating between its XML-RPC
manifestation and its XML wrapping functionality).
   * reuse Paul Prescod's material=20
   * discuss web services built on top of these RPC layers=20
   * proposed by Tim Couper <tim@2wave.net>=20

+ have Mike Olson and Uche from 4Suite do a presentation in a Web
 Services track, covering the whole XML space, including SAX and DOM and =
=20
among other things, RDF (proposed by Tim Couper <tim@2wave.net>)=20

+ Martijn <faassen@vet.uu.nl> does something about XML for document stora=
ge/=20
editing/ retrieval/ searching. Martin von Loewis may be willing to work o=
n=20
this too

+ Tim and Andy Robinson are intrested in running a "Python
 and Business" or more like "Python in the Real World" track

+ I <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org> am much interested in this too, even if=
 not=20
 able to contribute much else witht than the marketing that a public supp=
ort=20
initiative can provide. (I just can say that I work much with my service=20
providers and colleagues in other public administration stating that I wa=
nt=20
Python and ZOPE developments)

+ Have a Jython presentation with European Jython hackers Finn Bock in=20
Denmark who Martijn is contacting

+ have a presentation in the business track letting deciders (ie. non=20
technicians) know and understand why having their developpements team use=
=20
python/jython/zope and contributing to a knowledge body is good for them,=
=20
from a business perspective.=20

I suppose I could contribute here, maybe with Didier Georgieff=20
<Didier.GEORGIEFF@agriculture.gouv.fr> from SIT du Bas Rhin, as we are mo=
re=20
on the "consumer" side (deciders and prescriptors) and are convinced alre=
ady.=20

(Side note: soon I  plan to open a RFP for my administration to gather pe=
ople=20
who could in Europe offer python and zope developpment. )

+ Joseph Santaniello <someone@arbitrary.org> proposes to helps with "his=20
experiences bucking the trend and navigating the political=20
intrigues necessary to get the finance company where he work to adopt
Python and Zope for it's most critical systems will provide some
interesting background for part of the development of such a track."

Maybe we could get some ideas and people from the IPC10 conference.

Best regards,

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Sat Feb  9 08:46:54 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 09:46:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Todo list for euro python and zope conf.
References: <LKENLBBMDHMKBECHIAIAEEOGCDAA.andy@reportlab.com> <1013201329.3c6439b1bc1fd@webmail.in-berlin.de> <E16ZQwX-000874-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <3C64E1FE.7F49524C@darwin.in-berlin.de>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> 
> I fully support he idea to have the people entering thei coordinate ONCE
> though the web to register, and use these information afterwards to generate
> the entrance badges.
> 
> Is there any of you, Andy, Dinu who would coordinate that point and the
> set-up of the tool on the europython.org site with the person who will
> coordinate the whole site ?

If I knew better what to expect I could say yes as far
as I'm concerned. What I'd like to avoid, though, is 
messing too much with the site itself, i.e. web-scrip-
ting and integrating everything together. But creating
some building blocks, yes. 

Maybe we just need some kind of outline in the Wiki to
move on, ok, I'll try to start something there.

Dinu


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Sat Feb  9 09:08:26 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 10:08:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C642F38.5EFDFCD3@lemburg.com>
References: <20020208151630.GB14597@vet.uu.nl> <20020208193854.GA16229@vet.uu.nl> <3C642F38.5EFDFCD3@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <E16ZTUh-0001ES-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Vendredi 8 F=E9vrier 2002 21:04, M.-A. Lemburg a =E9crit :

> > Perhaps you two could get together and work something out? Take the
> > existing press release and add something like this bit and shake it a=
ll
> > up, post it back to the list.
>
> Ok, but we'll need some more background info about the organizers,
> e.g. name of a company, address, press-contact, phone numbers,
> some bios, etc.

Yes, but are these details really needed now ?

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From mal@lemburg.com  Sat Feb  9 11:51:03 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 12:51:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020208151630.GB14597@vet.uu.nl> <20020208193854.GA16229@vet.uu.nl> <3C642F38.5EFDFCD3@lemburg.com> <E16ZTUh-0001ES-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <3C650D27.6FF5C17@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
>=20
> Le Vendredi 8 F=E9vrier 2002 21:04, M.-A. Lemburg a =E9crit :
>=20
> > > Perhaps you two could get together and work something out? Take the
> > > existing press release and add something like this bit and shake it=
 all
> > > up, post it back to the list.
> >
> > Ok, but we'll need some more background info about the organizers,
> > e.g. name of a company, address, press-contact, phone numbers,
> > some bios, etc.
>=20
> Yes, but are these details really needed now ?

You always have to mention someone being responsible for the press
release and at least give them some coordinates in case they want
to get back to you (e.g. for extra press material, etc.).=20

A typical press release usually starts with:

"PARIS - BigCompany Inc. announces TheGreatBigProduct,
a <one sentence summary>."

Then what follows is a mix of comments, short bios and product
descriptions.

To put it simple: we need a name tag for who is organizing
the event, e.g. EuroPython Conferences c/o xyz, abc 12,=20
3456 Charleroi.

--=20
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Sat Feb  9 16:42:14 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 17:42:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C650D27.6FF5C17@lemburg.com>
References: <20020208151630.GB14597@vet.uu.nl> <E16ZTUh-0001ES-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C650D27.6FF5C17@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <E16ZaZr-0007Lp-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Samedi 9 F=E9vrier 2002 12:51, M.-A. Lemburg a =E9crit :

> You always have to mention someone being responsible for the press
> release and at least give them some coordinates in case they want
> to get back to you (e.g. for extra press material, etc.).

I agree

> A typical press release usually starts with:
>
> "PARIS - BigCompany Inc. announces TheGreatBigProduct,
> a <one sentence summary>."
>
> Then what follows is a mix of comments, short bios and product
> descriptions.
>
> To put it simple: we need a name tag for who is organizing
> the event, e.g. EuroPython Conferences c/o xyz, abc 12,
> 3456 Charleroi.

you are right. And this is easy to add.

I propose to put one or two names per country, as we do for Eurolinux, wi=
th=20
business addresses more than activists ones.

My proposal:
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D

EuroPython/zope Conferences=20
c/o OS3B, [OS3B address] Charleroi.

Belgium
  Denis Fr=E8re, email: denis@aragne.com, tel: +32.
  Nicolas Pettiaux, email: npettiaux@cocof.be, tel: +32.(0)496.24.55.01

France
  St=E9fance Fermigier, email: sf@nuxeo.com, tel: +33.

Germany
  Marc-Andr=E9 Lemburg, email: mal@lemburg.com, tel: +49.

Netherlands
  Martijn Faassen, email: faassen@vet.uu.nl, tel: +31.

UK
  ??

Best regards,

Nicolas


--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb  9 17:02:50 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 18:02:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <E16ZaZr-0007Lp-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <20020208151630.GB14597@vet.uu.nl> <E16ZTUh-0001ES-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C650D27.6FF5C17@lemburg.com> <E16ZaZr-0007Lp-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020209170250.GA19332@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> I propose to put one or two names per country, as we do for Eurolinux, with 
> business addresses more than activists ones.

[snip proposal]

Sounds like a good idea. I'll look up my work phone number (I keep
forgetting, but best place to reach me) and mail you all soon. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From mal@lemburg.com  Sat Feb  9 20:03:34 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2002 21:03:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020208151630.GB14597@vet.uu.nl> <E16ZTUh-0001ES-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C650D27.6FF5C17@lemburg.com> <E16ZaZr-0007Lp-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <3C658096.A85376BB@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
>=20
> I propose to put one or two names per country, as we do for Eurolinux, =
with
> business addresses more than activists ones.
>=20
> My proposal:
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>=20
> EuroPython/Zope Conferences
> c/o OS3B, [OS3B address] Charleroi.
>=20
> Belgium
>   Denis Fr=E8re, email: denis@aragne.com, tel: +32.
>   Nicolas Pettiaux, email: npettiaux@cocof.be, tel: +32.(0)496.24.55.01
>=20
> France
>   St=E9fance Fermigier, email: sf@nuxeo.com, tel: +33.
>=20
> Germany
>   Marc-Andr=E9 Lemburg, email: mal@lemburg.com, tel: +49.
                                                         211.9304112
>=20
> Netherlands
>   Martijn Faassen, email: faassen@vet.uu.nl, tel: +31.
>=20
> UK
    Tim Couper
    Andy Robinson

--=20
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Sun Feb 10 08:49:42 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 09:49:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press relaese in wiki
Message-ID: <E16Zpg7-0000cP-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Dear,

In http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressRelease/

I have put together the adapted press release.=20

Please go and adapt it=20

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Sun Feb 10 13:45:33 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 14:45:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] ConferenceInformationRelease and RequestForPapers
Message-ID: <E16ZuIP-0007Th-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Dear

I have just added=20

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceInformationRelease

and

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/RequestForPapers

Please check, comment, adapt, correct and disuss these proposals.

Best regards,

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From mal@lemburg.com  Sun Feb 10 13:46:02 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 14:46:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press relaese in wiki
References: <E16Zpg7-0000cP-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <3C66799A.2C228E2B@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
>=20
> In http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressRelease/
>=20
> I have put together the adapted press release.
>=20
> Please go and adapt it

I've applied some edits. Please have a look... is the following
correct ?

"""
The European Python and Zope Conference is an initiative by EuroPython=20
Conference Team to bring together European Python and Zope users and=20
developers.
"""

and later:

"""
EuroPython/Zope Conference Team
P3B c/o Aragne
Boulevard G=E9n=E9ral Michel 1E
B-6000 Charleroi.
"""

--=20
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Sun Feb 10 14:05:26 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:05:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <E16YrvF-0007hb-00@mail.python.org> <20020208151545.95608.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> <20020208194926.GB16229@vet.uu.nl> <E16ZSSO-0000ZY-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <3C667E26.179E280D@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> 
> Just to propose a summary so far about the tracks for the Europython/zope
> conference:

Could we have this as Wiki page too ?
 
(I have applied some minor corrections below)

> + intro about XML-RPC and then SOAP (differentiating between its RPC
> manifestation and its XML wrapping functionality).
>    * possibly reuse Paul Prescod's material
>    * discuss web services built on top of these RPC layers
>    * proposed by Tim Couper <tim@2wave.net> and Marc-Andre Lemburg <mal@egenix.com>
> 
> + have Mike Olson and Uche from FourThough Inc. do a presentation in a Web
> Services track, covering the whole XML space, including SAX and DOM and
> among other things, RDF 
>    * proposed by Tim Couper <tim@2wave.net>
> 
> + Martijn <faassen@vet.uu.nl> does something about XML for document storage/
> editing/ retrieval/ searching. Martin von Loewis may be willing to work on
> this too
> 
> + Tim, Marc-Andre and Andy Robinson are intrested in running a "Python
>  and Business" or more like "Python in the Real World" track
> 
> + I <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org> am much interested in this too, even if not
> able to contribute much else witht than the marketing that a public support
> initiative can provide. (I just can say that I work much with my service
> providers and colleagues in other public administration stating that I want
> Python and ZOPE developments)
> 
> + Have a Jython presentation with European Jython hackers Finn Bock in
> Denmark who Martijn is contacting
> 
> + have a presentation in the business track letting deciders (ie. non
> technicians) know and understand why having their developpements team use
> python/jython/zope and contributing to a knowledge body is good for them,
> from a business perspective.
> 
> I suppose I could contribute here, maybe with Didier Georgieff
> <Didier.GEORGIEFF@agriculture.gouv.fr> from SIT du Bas Rhin, as we are more
> on the "consumer" side (deciders and prescriptors) and are convinced already.
> 
> (Side note: soon I  plan to open a RFP for my administration to gather people
> who could in Europe offer python and zope developpment. )
> 
> + Joseph Santaniello <someone@arbitrary.org> proposes to helps with "his
> experiences bucking the trend and navigating the political
> intrigues necessary to get the finance company where he work to adopt
> Python and Zope for it's most critical systems will provide some
> interesting background for part of the development of such a track."

In summary we now have the following tracks:

1. Python and Jython
2. Zope
3. Web Services
4. Python in the Real World

Now we have three days available. Question is how to organize these
three days. We could follow IPCn:

26.06.: Tutorial Day
27.06.: Conference Day
28.06.: Developers Day

or maybe just have two conference days (I tend to have a feeling 
that dev days don't really generate much significant output).

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Sun Feb 10 14:09:02 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:09:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press relaese in wiki
In-Reply-To: <3C66799A.2C228E2B@lemburg.com>
References: <E16Zpg7-0000cP-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C66799A.2C228E2B@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <E16Zuf9-0000RN-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Dimanche 10 F=E9vrier 2002 14:46, M.-A. Lemburg a =E9crit :
> Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> > In http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressRelease/
> >
> > I have put together the adapted press release.
> >
> > Please go and adapt it
>
> I've applied some edits.=20

Thank you
> Please have a look... is the following correct ?

> """
> The European Python and Zope Conference is an initiative by EuroPython
> Conference Team to bring together European Python and Zope users and
> developers.
> """

I suppose so

> and later:
>
> """
> EuroPython/Zope Conference Team
> P3B c/o Aragne
> Boulevard G=E9n=E9ral Michel 1E
> B-6000 Charleroi.
> """

Denis has to tell us.

Thanks,

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From mal@lemburg.com  Sun Feb 10 14:14:28 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:14:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <E16YrvF-0007hb-00@mail.python.org> <20020208151545.95608.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> <20020208194926.GB16229@vet.uu.nl> <E16ZSSO-0000ZY-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C667E26.179E280D@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <3C668044.366281BA@lemburg.com>

Just realized Nicolas has already set up a Wiki page...

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTracks/

I'm currently editing this page up a bit.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be  Sun Feb 10 14:14:56 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:14:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <3C667E26.179E280D@lemburg.com>
References: <E16YrvF-0007hb-00@mail.python.org> <E16ZSSO-0000ZY-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C667E26.179E280D@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <E16Zukr-0000XK-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Dimanche 10 F=E9vrier 2002 15:05, M.-A. Lemburg a =E9crit :
> Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> > Just to propose a summary so far about the tracks for the Europython/=
zope
> > conference:
>
> Could we have this as Wiki page too ?

this is already in=20

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTracks

All your ideas below seem good to me.

Please go on and edit this wiki page as you like.=20

(I won't for the next 3 hours at least)

> (I have applied some minor corrections below)
>
> > + intro about XML-RPC and then SOAP (differentiating between its RPC
> > manifestation and its XML wrapping functionality).
> >    * possibly reuse Paul Prescod's material
> >    * discuss web services built on top of these RPC layers
> >    * proposed by Tim Couper <tim@2wave.net> and Marc-Andre Lemburg
> > <mal@egenix.com>
> >
> > + have Mike Olson and Uche from FourThough Inc. do a presentation in =
a
> > Web Services track, covering the whole XML space, including SAX and D=
OM
> > and among other things, RDF
> >    * proposed by Tim Couper <tim@2wave.net>
> >
> > + Martijn <faassen@vet.uu.nl> does something about XML for document
> > storage/ editing/ retrieval/ searching. Martin von Loewis may be will=
ing
> > to work on this too
> >
> > + Tim, Marc-Andre and Andy Robinson are intrested in running a "Pytho=
n
> >  and Business" or more like "Python in the Real World" track
> >
> > + I <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org> am much interested in this too, eve=
n if
> > not able to contribute much else witht than the marketing that a publ=
ic
> > support initiative can provide. (I just can say that I work much with=
 my
> > service providers and colleagues in other public administration stati=
ng
> > that I want Python and ZOPE developments)
> >
> > + Have a Jython presentation with European Jython hackers Finn Bock i=
n
> > Denmark who Martijn is contacting
> >
> > + have a presentation in the business track letting deciders (ie. non
> > technicians) know and understand why having their developpements team=
 use
> > python/jython/zope and contributing to a knowledge body is good for t=
hem,
> > from a business perspective.
> >
> > I suppose I could contribute here, maybe with Didier Georgieff
> > <Didier.GEORGIEFF@agriculture.gouv.fr> from SIT du Bas Rhin, as we ar=
e
> > more on the "consumer" side (deciders and prescriptors) and are convi=
nced
> > already.
> >
> > (Side note: soon I  plan to open a RFP for my administration to gathe=
r
> > people who could in Europe offer python and zope developpment. )
> >
> > + Joseph Santaniello <someone@arbitrary.org> proposes to helps with "=
his
> > experiences bucking the trend and navigating the political
> > intrigues necessary to get the finance company where he work to adopt
> > Python and Zope for it's most critical systems will provide some
> > interesting background for part of the development of such a track."
>
> In summary we now have the following tracks:
>
> 1. Python and Jython
> 2. Zope
> 3. Web Services
> 4. Python in the Real World
>
> Now we have three days available. Question is how to organize these
> three days. We could follow IPCn:
>
> 26.06.: Tutorial Day
> 27.06.: Conference Day
> 28.06.: Developers Day
>
> or maybe just have two conference days (I tend to have a feeling
> that dev days don't really generate much significant output).

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Association =E9lectronique libre pour la promotion des=20
droits de l'Homme dans la Soci=E9t=E9 de l'information (AEL) -
www.ael.be=20


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Sun Feb 10 14:18:23 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:18:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Suggestion: use UserOptions
Message-ID: <E16ZuoC-0000jv-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

In order to track who did what, I suggest the contributors to the wiki go=
 to =20

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/UserOptions

and enter their user name.

I did with npettiau

Thanks,

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From mal@lemburg.com  Sun Feb 10 14:25:40 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:25:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <E16YrvF-0007hb-00@mail.python.org> <E16ZSSO-0000ZY-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C667E26.179E280D@lemburg.com> <E16Zukr-0000XK-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <3C6682E4.2B21D7BA@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
>=20
> Le Dimanche 10 F=E9vrier 2002 15:05, M.-A. Lemburg a =E9crit :
> > Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> > > Just to propose a summary so far about the tracks for the Europytho=
n/zope
> > > conference:
> >
> > Could we have this as Wiki page too ?
>=20
> this is already in
>=20
> http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTracks
>=20
> All your ideas below seem good to me.
>=20
> Please go on and edit this wiki page as you like.
>=20
> (I won't for the next 3 hours at least)

I've completed the editing (and now, after the edits :-/, have also
set the user cookie).

Please review and change as you see fit.

--=20
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Sun Feb 10 14:35:58 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 15:35:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] ConferenceInformationRelease and RequestForPapers
References: <E16ZuIP-0007Th-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <3C66854E.DE728F6B@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> 
> Dear
> 
> I have just added
> 
> http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceInformationRelease

Good start :-) I would put a little more emphasis on high level
introductions, though (the topics look too technical). We should
try to attract not only developers but also people seeking
guidance about whether or not to use Python in future projects.

The "Python in the Real World" track should explicitly focus
on decision makers for this reason.

> and
> 
> http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/RequestForPapers

Looks perfect for conference presentations, but it is missing some
important parts for a "call for papers" -- the paper submission
guidelines ;-) 

Now, papers are generally tough to manage since you need referees,
several rounds etc. Perhaps we don't want refereed papers at the 
first conference ?! In that case, I'd call the page "Request for
Participation" (like the O'Reilly page is called).

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Sun Feb 10 15:25:02 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 16:25:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release in wiki
In-Reply-To: <3C66799A.2C228E2B@lemburg.com>
References: <E16Zpg7-0000cP-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C66799A.2C228E2B@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020210162502.P31142@carolo.net>

Le Sun, Feb 10, 2002 at 02:46:02PM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg pianota:
>=20
> I've applied some edits. Please have a look... is the following
> correct ?
>=20
> """
> The European Python and Zope Conference is an initiative by EuroPython=20
> Conference Team to bring together European Python and Zope users and=20
> developers.
> """
>=20
> and later:
>=20
> """
> EuroPython/Zope Conference Team
> P3B c/o Aragne
> Boulevard G=E9n=E9ral Michel 1E
> B-6000 Charleroi.
> """

More accurate :-)

As I told during our december meeting, if we need a official name under
which the evenement must be placed, we can use P3B (Python Blanc Bleu
Belge). It's a belgian non-profit organisation devoted solely to the
glory of Python and derivated products.

But, of course, if we add "EuroPython/Zope Conference Team" in front of
P3B, it will reflect reality better. Good so for me.

Aragne is our commercial company (and main sponsor of P3B). I think it's
better if it's just a company as others and not the main organizer.

For your full information, OS3B is also a non-profit organisation : a
Charleroi Linux Users Group we will get help from, Python and Zope being
free-software. (And I quite agree with S. Fermigier : we have to be
explicit about this. That's the reason why Charleroi's Authorities
accept to support the event, not because of technical excellency.)


Back in a few hours ...


Denis

--=20
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org=20
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be  Sun Feb 10 16:16:05 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:16:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] ConferenceInformationRelease and RequestForPapers
In-Reply-To: <3C66854E.DE728F6B@lemburg.com>
References: <E16ZuIP-0007Th-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C66854E.DE728F6B@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <E16Zwe6-00065Z-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Dimanche 10 F=E9vrier 2002 15:35, M.-A. Lemburg a =E9crit :
> Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> > Dear
> >
> > I have just added
> >
> > http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceInformationRelease
>
> Good start :-) I would put a little more emphasis on high level
> introductions, though (the topics look too technical). We should
> try to attract not only developers but also people seeking
> guidance about whether or not to use Python in future projects.

yes

> The "Python in the Real World" track should explicitly focus
> on decision makers for this reason.

Yes , I fully agree.=20

As I am rather not anymore a technician (or let's say the technices is no=
t=20
anymore my main objective), this is the track (with a similar one for zop=
e)=20
that I am ready to help to manage.=20

> > and
> >
> > http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/RequestForPapers
>
> Looks perfect for conference presentations, but it is missing some
> important parts for a "call for papers" -- the paper submission
> guidelines ;-)

right. Didn't have the time to put that in.

> Now, papers are generally tough to manage since you need referees,
> several rounds etc. Perhaps we don't want refereed papers at the
> first conference ?! In that case, I'd call the page "Request for
> Participation" (like the O'Reilly page is called).

good idea.

Thanks,=20

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Association =E9lectronique libre pour la promotion des=20
droits de l'Homme dans la Soci=E9t=E9 de l'information (AEL) -
www.ael.be=20


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Sun Feb 10 16:19:17 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:19:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release in wiki
In-Reply-To: <20020210162502.P31142@carolo.net>
References: <E16Zpg7-0000cP-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C66799A.2C228E2B@lemburg.com> <20020210162502.P31142@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <E16ZwhC-00068v-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Dimanche 10 F=E9vrier 2002 16:25, Denis a =E9crit :

> > EuroPython/Zope Conference Team
> > P3B c/o Aragne
> > Boulevard G=E9n=E9ral Michel 1E
> > B-6000 Charleroi.
> > """
>
> More accurate :-)
>
> As I told during our december meeting, if we need a official name under
> which the evenement must be placed, we can use P3B (Python Blanc Bleu
> Belge). It's a belgian non-profit organisation devoted solely to the
> glory of Python and derivated products.
>
> But, of course, if we add "EuroPython/Zope Conference Team" in front of
> P3B, it will reflect reality better. Good so for me.

OK=20

> Aragne is our commercial company (and main sponsor of P3B). I think it'=
s
> better if it's just a company as others and not the main organizer.

I propose then to remove the reference to Aragne there.

> For your full information, OS3B is also a non-profit organisation : a
> Charleroi Linux Users Group we will get help from, Python and Zope bein=
g
> free-software. (And I quite agree with S. Fermigier : we have to be
> explicit about this. That's the reason why Charleroi's Authorities
> accept to support the event, not because of technical excellency.)

Yes, this has to be said clearly . Who is changing the PR ?

Thanks,

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Sun Feb 10 21:55:27 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 22:55:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] reponsability for http://www.europython.org/
Message-ID: <E16a1wW-0003qY-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Dear,

As far as I feel, we need to put a site under http://www.europython.org/ =
that=20
is a bit better and more complete as soon as possible.=20

There is some material in the wiki=20

http://www.europython.org/wiki=20

can be reworked and put forward.

This has to be coordinated with http://europython.p3b.org/

If this is done, we can with success mention it in the press release and=20
gather soe other feedback.

Thanks,

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From Marc.Poinot@onera.fr  Mon Feb 11 08:42:26 2002
From: Marc.Poinot@onera.fr (Marc Poinot)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:42:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <E16YrvF-0007hb-00@mail.python.org> <20020208151545.95608.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> <20020208194926.GB16229@vet.uu.nl> <E16ZSSO-0000ZY-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C667E26.179E280D@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <3C6783F2.33C04BF2@onera.fr>

> 
> In summary we now have the following tracks:
> 
> 1. Python and Jython
> 2. Zope
> 3. Web Services
> 4. Python in the Real World
> 

Again, you're all focusing on web/internet... But it's funny you
wrote point 4 was the real world, i.e. everything else but web :)
Java, Zope, web... all these are, of course, very important for some
bussiness today. I should say, I has been ?
Most of the people I know are using Python in the scientific world.
I always present Python as a gluing and/or prototyping langage, and
you can see with Numerical Python or other scientific modules, there
is a not-internet-related Python community.
As a matter of fact, this community is less fluent with web-things,
mailing lits, dedicated web site, etc...
This morning I saw a yet-another-module-for-MPI announce.

I propose some scientific related Python use, but I must admit this will
imply I'll have to fill the topic with some presentations...

David Ascher ? Konrad Hinsen ? Paul Dubois ? could brightly open
such a topic. Then we can have about 5/10 papers of scientific
users in Europe (At least German (DLR) and French aerospace industry ;)

I also propose something related with internationalisation, experts are
very close to us and it's worth being mentioned that Python is ready for
that.

Then the last topic I would suggest is DBMS-related topics. You think web
is the most important because every company has a web... but there often
are more than one database in every company. And there probably is one
DBMS behind every web. As far as I remember, C. Tismer has worked on DBMS
for one of its customer ? Maybe he could be the topic benevolvs-dictarvr ?

See Python home site topics, these main topics already are there.

> 1. Python and Jython
> 2. Zope
> 3. Web Services
  4. Python for scientific World (and Galactic if possible)
  5. Databases on earth and Python 

Marcvs [alias This email was not generated using a Python module]


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Mon Feb 11 08:54:47 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:54:47 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsoring
Message-ID: <1013417687.3c6786d716de4@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Hi,

maybe I just forgot about it, but I don't quite remember
having seen anybody mentioning the sponsoring issue.
Could anybody elaborate a bit on this one, please?

Thanks,

Dinu


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Mon Feb 11 09:04:17 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:04:17 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <3C6783F2.33C04BF2@onera.fr>
References: <E16YrvF-0007hb-00@mail.python.org> <20020208151545.95608.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> <20020208194926.GB16229@vet.uu.nl> <E16ZSSO-0000ZY-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C667E26.179E280D@lemburg.com> <3C6783F2.33C04BF2@onera.fr>
Message-ID: <1013418257.3c678911554c9@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Marc Poinot <Marc.Poinot@onera.fr>:

> Most of the people I know are using Python in the scientific world.

Deformation professionelle... ;-)

> I always present Python as a gluing and/or prototyping langage, and
> you can see with Numerical Python or other scientific modules, there
> is a not-internet-related Python community.
> As a matter of fact, this community is less fluent with web-things,
> mailing lits, dedicated web site, etc...
> This morning I saw a yet-another-module-for-MPI announce.

I fully agree and would also appreciate some "more serious"
content, that is less likely to be de-hyped within a year into 
meaninglessness... I'll ask some folks at the Institut Pasteur
right away if they can share some of their Python experience.

Also, please think of Michel Sanner who was also present in
Long Beach, CA... Marc, would you mind contacting him?

Regards,

Dinu
 


From Marc.Poinot@onera.fr  Mon Feb 11 09:16:47 2002
From: Marc.Poinot@onera.fr (Marc Poinot)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:16:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <E16YrvF-0007hb-00@mail.python.org> <20020208151545.95608.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> <20020208194926.GB16229@vet.uu.nl> <E16ZSSO-0000ZY-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C667E26.179E280D@lemburg.com> <3C6783F2.33C04BF2@onera.fr> <1013418257.3c678911554c9@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <3C678BFF.1B35F1B1@onera.fr>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> 
> Marc Poinot <Marc.Poinot@onera.fr>:
> 
> > Most of the people I know are using Python in the scientific world.
> 
> Deformation professionelle... ;-)
> 
> > I always present Python as a gluing and/or prototyping langage, and
> > you can see with Numerical Python or other scientific modules, there
> > is a not-internet-related Python community.
> > As a matter of fact, this community is less fluent with web-things,
> > mailing lits, dedicated web site, etc...
> > This morning I saw a yet-another-module-for-MPI announce.
> 
> I fully agree and would also appreciate some "more serious"
> content, that is less likely to be de-hyped within a year into
> meaninglessness... I'll ask some folks at the Institut Pasteur
> right away if they can share some of their Python experience.
> 
> Also, please think of Michel Sanner who was also present in
> Long Beach, CA... Marc, would you mind contacting him?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Dinu
> 
I don't know Michel Sanner. I've seen he's using a molecular
package, just what Konrad was developping at first. But I can
contact him if I know what's going on for invited speakers.

I certainly cannot say to a speaker "come" if I don't know what
are the arrangments with organization. Is there some money to
make people come ? Who's defining priorities ? Who's holding
the pen to say yes/no ?

Marcvs [alias Hum... well, a pen cannot speak, I'm wrong, I would
        have writen "who's holding the penguin..."]


From tim@2wave.net  Mon Feb 11 09:22:50 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:22:50 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <E16ZasR-0005H5-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20020211092250.8628.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com>

Nicholas

Put me down for the UK:

Tim Couper. email tim@2wave.net.

I think it's a great idea to have the separate country
coverage info. However, I think that Marc's point is
that it's usual to have *one* point of contact for
press details, so it would be good to have a volunteer
(if there already hasn't been one!) ...

Tim


> 
> Message: 3
> From: Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org>
> Reply-To: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org
> To: "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com>
> Subject: Re: [EuroPython] send out press release
> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2002 17:42:14 +0100
> Cc: Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>,
>  sf@fermigier.com,
>  europython@python.org
> 
> Le Samedi 9 F=E9vrier 2002 12:51, M.-A. Lemburg a
> =E9crit :
> 
> > You always have to mention someone being
> responsible for the press
> > release and at least give them some coordinates in
> case they want
> > to get back to you (e.g. for extra press material,
> etc.).
> 
> I agree
> 
> > A typical press release usually starts with:
> >
> > "PARIS - BigCompany Inc. announces
> TheGreatBigProduct,
> > a <one sentence summary>."
> >
> > Then what follows is a mix of comments, short bios
> and product
> > descriptions.
> >
> > To put it simple: we need a name tag for who is
> organizing
> > the event, e.g. EuroPython Conferences c/o xyz,
> abc 12,
> > 3456 Charleroi.
> 
> you are right. And this is easy to add.
> 
> I propose to put one or two names per country, as we
> do for Eurolinux, wi=
> th=20
> business addresses more than activists ones.
> 
> My proposal:
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> 
> EuroPython/zope Conferences=20
> c/o OS3B, [OS3B address] Charleroi.
> 
> Belgium
>   Denis Fr=E8re, email: denis@aragne.com, tel: +32.
>   Nicolas Pettiaux, email: npettiaux@cocof.be, tel:
> +32.(0)496.24.55.01
> 
> France
>   St=E9fance Fermigier, email: sf@nuxeo.com, tel:
> +33.
> 
> Germany
>   Marc-Andr=E9 Lemburg, email: mal@lemburg.com, tel:
> +49.
> 
> Netherlands
>   Martijn Faassen, email: faassen@vet.uu.nl, tel:
> +31.
> 
> UK
>   ??
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Nicolas
> 
> 
> --=20
> Nicolas Pettiaux
> Avenue du P=E9rou 29
> B-1000 Brussels
> 
> 
> 
> --__--__--
> 
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 
> 
> End of EuroPython Digest 

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From tim@2wave.net  Mon Feb 11 09:54:05 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:54:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <3C6783F2.33C04BF2@onera.fr>
Message-ID: <20020211095405.12555.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi M Poinot :-) [too many Marcs :-)]

The question is what do we think are hot topics that
would make people want to come? I'm not sure that
databases per se are that hot - people are probably
either using Oracle or free stuff in the relational
domain - and they are largely understood, and covered
quite extensively in the Python books available. I'm
unsure about the interest in "the database what I
wrote" talks, but they might possibly fit in well into
the Python in the Real World - as an example of the
power and flexibility of python, which made it
possible to produce an object database or whatever,
which was suited to the application space under
consideration. 

The scientific application of python is, I suppose,
"Python in the Scientific World" as opposed to "Python
in the Commercial World", which is where the "Python
in the Real World" topic started. 

However, the issues relating to Scientific python are,
I think, fundamentally techy, and whether the array
handling etc is more efficient or effective than doing
it in Fortran or C; are any such scientists going to
come who aren't already python-aware? I suspect not.

However, I think there is great value in having papers
covering examples of scientific applications of
python, which could be presented if there's enough
interest, or handled as a BoF. These papers are
valuable, in my view, as they can form the basis of
presentations in conferences specifically focussed on
the science concerned, and it is maybe these papers
that act as the evangelistic vehicle for python within
the scientific community.

So I think I'm arguing that Python in the Real world
could include some of the science presentations? Just
my thoughts ... 

Tim


 --- Marc Poinot <Marc.Poinot@onera.fr> wrote: > 
> > 
> > In summary we now have the following tracks:
> > 
> > 1. Python and Jython
> > 2. Zope
> > 3. Web Services
> > 4. Python in the Real World
> > 
> 
> Again, you're all focusing on web/internet... But
> it's funny you
> wrote point 4 was the real world, i.e. everything
> else but web :)
> Java, Zope, web... all these are, of course, very
> important for some
> bussiness today. I should say, I has been ?
> Most of the people I know are using Python in the
> scientific world.
> I always present Python as a gluing and/or
> prototyping langage, and
> you can see with Numerical Python or other
> scientific modules, there
> is a not-internet-related Python community.
> As a matter of fact, this community is less fluent
> with web-things,
> mailing lits, dedicated web site, etc...
> This morning I saw a yet-another-module-for-MPI
> announce.
> 
> I propose some scientific related Python use, but I
> must admit this will
> imply I'll have to fill the topic with some
> presentations...
> 
> David Ascher ? Konrad Hinsen ? Paul Dubois ? could
> brightly open
> such a topic. Then we can have about 5/10 papers of
> scientific
> users in Europe (At least German (DLR) and French
> aerospace industry ;)
> 
> I also propose something related with
> internationalisation, experts are
> very close to us and it's worth being mentioned that
> Python is ready for
> that.
> 
> Then the last topic I would suggest is DBMS-related
> topics. You think web
> is the most important because every company has a
> web... but there often
> are more than one database in every company. And
> there probably is one
> DBMS behind every web. As far as I remember, C.
> Tismer has worked on DBMS
> for one of its customer ? Maybe he could be the
> topic benevolvs-dictarvr ?
> 
> See Python home site topics, these main topics
> already are there.
> 
> > 1. Python and Jython
> > 2. Zope
> > 3. Web Services
>   4. Python for scientific World (and Galactic if
> possible)
>   5. Databases on earth and Python 
> 
> Marcvs [alias This email was not generated using a
> Python module] 

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From sf@fermigier.com  Mon Feb 11 10:33:00 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:33:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsoring
In-Reply-To: <1013417687.3c6786d716de4@webmail.in-berlin.de>; from gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de on Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:54:47AM +0100
References: <1013417687.3c6786d716de4@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020211113300.G49147@math.jussieu.fr>

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:54:47AM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> maybe I just forgot about it, but I don't quite remember
> having seen anybody mentioning the sponsoring issue.
> Could anybody elaborate a bit on this one, please?

As said during the december meeting that my company, Nuxeo, could probabl=
y
give 500 Euros, but it's too early to make a firm commitment.

Cheers.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Mon Feb 11 11:16:45 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:16:45 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <E16ZaZr-0007Lp-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111212310.11594-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

Hi EuroPythoneers,

I am glad to announce that we (Logilab) plan on helping as much as we can
with the EuroPythonZopeConference. I assume you know us already (at least 
we know most of you :-), but in case you wouldn't, check out

	http://www.logilab.org/

> EuroPython/zope Conferences 
> c/o OS3B, [OS3B address] Charleroi.
> 
> France
>   Stéfance Fermigier, email: sf@nuxeo.com, tel: +33.

Feel free to add me :

Nicolas Chauvat, email: nicolas.chauvat@logilab.fr, +33 (0)1 45 32 03 12

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.fr - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb 11 12:42:54 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:42:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press-Release French
Message-ID: <20020211134254.A26073@carolo.net>

I've added a French version of the PR.
Comments and improvements welcome.

Denis
-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From Marc.Poinot@onera.fr  Mon Feb 11 12:53:12 2002
From: Marc.Poinot@onera.fr (Marc Poinot)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:53:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press-Release French
References: <20020211134254.A26073@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <3C67BEB8.BDCCDAFE@onera.fr>

Denis wrote:
>=20
> I've added a French version of the PR.
> Comments and improvements welcome.
>=20
- Il s'agira du premier =E9v=E9nement de grande envergure enti=E8rement
+ Il s'agira du premier =E9v=E9nement Europeen de grande envergure enti=E8=
rement

- Une session sp=E9ciale sera d=E9dicac=E9e =E0 Zope
+ Une session sp=E9ciale sera d=E9di=E9e =E0 Zope

Pour ma part, je passerai tout au present. Le futur est lourd et trop inc=
ertain :)
(I think we would better use present instead of futur)

Marcvs [alias IPC already is "grande envergure"]


From sf@fermigier.com  Mon Feb 11 13:36:57 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 14:36:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press-Release French
In-Reply-To: <3C67BEB8.BDCCDAFE@onera.fr>; from Marc.Poinot@onera.fr on Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 01:53:12PM +0100
References: <20020211134254.A26073@carolo.net> <3C67BEB8.BDCCDAFE@onera.fr>
Message-ID: <20020211143657.N49147@math.jussieu.fr>

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 01:53:12PM +0100, Marc Poinot wrote:
> Denis wrote:
> >=20
> > I've added a French version of the PR.
> > Comments and improvements welcome.
> >=20
> - Il s'agira du premier =E9v=E9nement de grande envergure enti=E8rement
> + Il s'agira du premier =E9v=E9nement Europeen de grande envergure enti=
=E8rement
>=20
> - Une session sp=E9ciale sera d=E9dicac=E9e =E0 Zope
> + Une session sp=E9ciale sera d=E9di=E9e =E0 Zope
>=20
> Pour ma part, je passerai tout au present. Le futur est lourd et trop i=
ncertain :)
> (I think we would better use present instead of futur)

Je reste sur mon commentaire initial: si on se met =E0 la place du journa=
liste,
qui a priori n'a jamais entendu parler de Python (sauf s'il =E9crit pour
Programmez!, Developpeur Reference, Login: ou Gnu/Linux&Hurd Magazine Fra=
nce),
on ne comprend rien et on passe au communiqu=E9 suivant.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Mon Feb 11 14:23:43 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:23:43 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <20020211092250.8628.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020211092250.8628.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1013437423.3c67d3ef3bba4@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Could someone say clearly when the English Press Release
is declared to be finished, so I can translate it in German, 
please?

Thanks,

Dinu


From sf@fermigier.com  Mon Feb 11 14:38:09 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:38:09 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <1013437423.3c67d3ef3bba4@webmail.in-berlin.de>; from gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de on Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 03:23:43PM +0100
References: <20020211092250.8628.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> <1013437423.3c67d3ef3bba4@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr>

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 03:23:43PM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> Could someone say clearly when the English Press Release
> is declared to be finished, so I can translate it in German,=20
> please?

Like I said earlier in french, the PR in its current form would not work =
with
an uninformed journalist, who typically wouldn't know what Python / Zope =
are.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Mon Feb 11 14:52:15 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:52:15 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Stefane Fermigier wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 03:23:43PM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > Could someone say clearly when the English Press Release
> > is declared to be finished, so I can translate it in German, 
> > please?
> 
> Like I said earlier in french, the PR in its current form would not work with
> an uninformed journalist, who typically wouldn't know what Python / Zope are.

I updated the english PR in an effort to make it more journalist
friendly. You folks let me know what you think of my changes or just
revert them.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 11 15:32:58 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:32:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsoring
References: <1013417687.3c6786d716de4@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <3C67E42A.1D53DEF0@lemburg.com>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> maybe I just forgot about it, but I don't quite remember
> having seen anybody mentioning the sponsoring issue.
> Could anybody elaborate a bit on this one, please?

Good point !

AFAIK, the city of Charleroi is donating the venue for the
conference. That's about it, I guess.

We'll need to budget this event in order to be able to tell
how much sponsoring we need. Ideal would be to get some EU
funds for the event, but I don't know whether we have any
EU contacts... ?

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 11 15:39:56 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:39:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020211092250.8628.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> <1013437423.3c67d3ef3bba4@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <3C67E5CC.BC9ABC5F@lemburg.com>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> 
> Could someone say clearly when the English Press Release
> is declared to be finished, so I can translate it in German,
> please?

Let's put a deadline on it: next Friday. 

Then we should take whatever is there and post it to the relevant 
press entities.

Would be nice to have some more translations... French, Spanish,
Italian, Russian (my girl friend can help with that one), Polish,
etc.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb 11 15:42:18 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:42:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] PR-French Version
Message-ID: <20020211164218.A26616@carolo.net>

I rewrote some parts of the French PR in a less litteral translation.
(J'ai laiss=E9 quelques verbes au futur, mais j'ai tenu compte de tes
remarques, St=E9phane)

Merci aux relecteurs.

Denis
--=20
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org=20
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From sf@fermigier.com  Mon Feb 11 15:47:55 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:47:55 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr>; from Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr on Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 03:52:15PM +0100
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr>

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 03:52:15PM +0100, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2002, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
>=20
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 03:23:43PM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > > Could someone say clearly when the English Press Release
> > > is declared to be finished, so I can translate it in German,=20
> > > please?
> >=20
> > Like I said earlier in french, the PR in its current form would not w=
ork with
> > an uninformed journalist, who typically wouldn't know what Python / Z=
ope are.
>=20
> I updated the english PR in an effort to make it more journalist
> friendly. You folks let me know what you think of my changes or just
> revert them.

I would suggest rewriting the title like:

  European Python and Zope Conference 2002 to take place in Charleroi, Be=
lgium,
  June 26-28

And the header like:

	Charleroi, Brussels, Paris, Amsterdam, xxx, February 11

	For immediate release
 =20
	The EuroPython Conference Team announces that the European Python and Zo=
pe
	Conference 2002 will take place on June 26-28 in Charleroi, Belgium.  Th=
is
	conference is an unique opportunity to bring together developers and use=
rs of
	Python, the fastest growing open source / free software scripting langua=
ge,
	and Zope, the leading open source / free software application server and
	content management platform.  [Add more important information here]

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 11 15:52:31 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:52:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020211092250.8628.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> <1013437423.3c67d3ef3bba4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <3C67E8BF.D2F2493F@lemburg.com>

Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 03:23:43PM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > Could someone say clearly when the English Press Release
> > is declared to be finished, so I can translate it in German,
> > please?
> 
> Like I said earlier in french, the PR in its current form would not work with
> an uninformed journalist, who typically wouldn't know what Python / Zope are.

There already is a short blurb about Python in the press release
wiki. Someone should add a similar blurb for Zope.

Could someone please also start unifying the different web-sites
which are running information on EuroPython ?! 

We have a Wiki at http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/FrontPage, a 
French only announcement on http://www.europython.org/ and a different 
one on the P3B site.

Please also note that the Wiki should be considered the official
source of documents. Any changes or new documents should go there.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Marc.Poinot@onera.fr  Mon Feb 11 15:55:16 2002
From: Marc.Poinot@onera.fr (Marc Poinot)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:55:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <3C67E964.A558C61@onera.fr>

Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> 
>         The EuroPython Conference Team announces that the European Python and Zope
>         Conference 2002 will take place on June 26-28 in Charleroi, Belgium.  This
>         conference is an unique opportunity to bring together developers and users of
>         Python, the fastest growing open source / free software scripting language,
>         and Zope, the leading open source / free software application server and
>         content management platform.  [Add more important information here]

The terms "fastest growing"... do we have quanties wich lead us to
such a conclusion ?

Marcvs [alias With *Numerical Python* you would not have asked !]


From sf@fermigier.com  Mon Feb 11 15:56:55 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:56:55 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C67E8BF.D2F2493F@lemburg.com>; from mal@lemburg.com on Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 04:52:31PM +0100
References: <20020211092250.8628.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> <1013437423.3c67d3ef3bba4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67E8BF.D2F2493F@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020211165655.F74692@math.jussieu.fr>

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 04:52:31PM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> >=20
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 03:23:43PM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > > Could someone say clearly when the English Press Release
> > > is declared to be finished, so I can translate it in German,
> > > please?
> >=20
> > Like I said earlier in french, the PR in its current form would not w=
ork with
> > an uninformed journalist, who typically wouldn't know what Python / Z=
ope are.
>=20
> There already is a short blurb about Python in the press release
> wiki. Someone should add a similar blurb for Zope.

Zope is the leading open source application server, specializing in conte=
nt
management, portals, and custom applications. Since Zope Corporation intr=
oduced
Zope as an open source product in 1998, it has become the platform of cho=
ice
for content publishers, managers and application developers. Zope comes w=
ith
complete source code, and no software licensing fees. There are over 20,0=
00
developers around the world contributing to Zope, providing on-going supp=
ort
and enhancements. More information, including the Zope source code, is
available at http://www.zope.com.
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

(Shouldn't this be http://www.zope.org/ ???)

And in french:

   Zope est le leader des serveurs d'application open source, sp=E9cialis=
=E9
   dans la gestion de contenu, les portails et les applications
   personnalis=E9es. Depuis que Zope Corporation a introduit Zope comme u=
n
   produit open source en 1998, ce dernier est devenu une plate-forme de
   choix pour les producteurs de contenus, les gestionnaires et les
   d=E9veloppeurs. Zope est livr=E9 avec l'int=E9gralit=E9 de son code so=
urce, et
   ne supporte pas le co=FBt d'une licence logicielle. On compte plus de =
20000=20
   d=E9veloppeurs dans le monde qui contribuent =E0 Zope, fournissant un
   soutien actif et des am=E9liorations. Plus d'informations, incluant le
   code source de Zope, sont disponibles sur le site www.zope.com.

(Same remark here)

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From sf@fermigier.com  Mon Feb 11 15:58:35 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:58:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C67E964.A558C61@onera.fr>; from Marc.Poinot@onera.fr on Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 04:55:16PM +0100
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67E964.A558C61@onera.fr>
Message-ID: <20020211165835.G74692@math.jussieu.fr>

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 04:55:16PM +0100, Marc Poinot wrote:
> Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> >=20
> >         The EuroPython Conference Team announces that the European Py=
thon and Zope
> >         Conference 2002 will take place on June 26-28 in Charleroi, B=
elgium.  This
> >         conference is an unique opportunity to bring together develop=
ers and users of
> >         Python, the fastest growing open source / free software scrip=
ting language,
> >         and Zope, the leading open source / free software application=
 server and
> >         content management platform.  [Add more important information=
 here]
>=20
> The terms "fastest growing"... do we have quanties wich lead us to
> such a conclusion ?

This assertion can be supported by counting the number of Python books 1 =
year
ago, and now.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Mon Feb 11 15:59:04 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:59:04 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C67E964.A558C61@onera.fr>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111658380.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> The terms "fastest growing"... do we have quanties wich lead us to
> such a conclusion ?

That's usual PR talk ;-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 11 16:06:50 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:06:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com>

Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> 
> I would suggest rewriting the title like:
> 
>   European Python and Zope Conference 2002 to take place in Charleroi, Belgium,
>   June 26-28

Hmm, maybe I have missed something here, but why is there such an
emphasis on "Zope Conference" all of the sudden ? AFAIR, the original
intent was to have a Zope track at a Python conference...
 
> And the header like:
> 
>         Charleroi, Brussels, Paris, Amsterdam, xxx, February 11

We should just use Charleroi, since that's where the EuroPython 
Conference Team is "officially" located.
 
>         For immediate release
> 
>         The EuroPython Conference Team announces that the European Python and Zope
>         Conference 2002 will take place on June 26-28 in Charleroi, Belgium.  This
>         conference is an unique opportunity to bring together developers and users of

The press release has the order right: "users and developers" :-)

>         Python, the fastest growing open source / free software scripting language,
>         and Zope, the leading open source / free software application server and
>         content management platform.  [Add more important information here]

Let's just leave it at "open source". I wouldn't want us to get 
into discussions about what definition of "free" we mean here and,
most of all, avoid any confusion this whole discussion might
cause. Again, the press release is right here.

Something I changed in the press-release is the mentioning of 
Java: you don't want to compare Python to Java or Zope to J2EE;
that's a road with a dead end in business talks.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From sf@fermigier.com  Mon Feb 11 16:15:01 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:15:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com>; from mal@lemburg.com on Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 05:06:50PM +0100
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020211171500.A76572@math.jussieu.fr>

On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 05:06:50PM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> >=20
> > I would suggest rewriting the title like:
> >=20
> >   European Python and Zope Conference 2002 to take place in Charleroi=
, Belgium,
> >   June 26-28
>=20
> Hmm, maybe I have missed something here, but why is there such an
> emphasis on "Zope Conference" all of the sudden ? AFAIR, the original
> intent was to have a Zope track at a Python conference...

"European Python and Zope Conference" was something I took from the
current PR.

But I think that the original intent, back in december in Charleroi, was
to call it that way, since this would bring more people to it.

> > And the header like:
> >=20
> >         Charleroi, Brussels, Paris, Amsterdam, xxx, February 11
>=20
> We should just use Charleroi, since that's where the EuroPython=20
> Conference Team is "officially" located.

That's an option. But giving a lot of places is a way to say this is trul=
ly
a european event.

> >         Conference 2002 will take place on June 26-28 in Charleroi, B=
elgium.  This
> >         conference is an unique opportunity to bring together develop=
ers and users of
>=20
> The press release has the order right: "users and developers" :-)

OK.

> >         Python, the fastest growing open source / free software scrip=
ting language,
> >         and Zope, the leading open source / free software application=
 server and
> >         content management platform.  [Add more important information=
 here]
>=20
> Let's just leave it at "open source". I wouldn't want us to get=20
> into discussions about what definition of "free" we mean here and,
> most of all, avoid any confusion this whole discussion might
> cause. Again, the press release is right here.

I'm sure a lot of people (RMS) would disagree.

> Something I changed in the press-release is the mentioning of=20
> Java: you don't want to compare Python to Java or Zope to J2EE;
> that's a road with a dead end in business talks.

Right.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 11 16:16:31 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:16:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <3C67EE5F.429435F8@lemburg.com>

I've edited the press release a bit:

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressRelease

Nicolas, could please also add wiki pages for the other 
languages ?!

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From srichter@cbu.edu  Mon Feb 11 16:19:13 2002
From: srichter@cbu.edu (Stephan Richter)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 10:19:13 -0600
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com>
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr>
 <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
 <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020211101746.02d7c9c8@mercury-1.cbu.edu>

At 05:06 PM 2/11/2002 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>Hmm, maybe I have missed something here, but why is there such an
>emphasis on "Zope Conference" all of the sudden ? AFAIR, the original
>intent was to have a Zope track at a Python conference...

We agreed early on that Python and Zope would be presented equally, not 
just by having a Zope track. The EuroZope community wants to use this 
conference as its official member meeting of the "EuroZope e.V."

Regards,
Stephan

--
Stephan Richter
CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student
Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Mon Feb 11 16:21:57 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:21:57 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111715170.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Something I changed in the press-release is the mentioning of 
> Java: you don't want to compare Python to Java or Zope to J2EE;
> that's a road with a dead end in business talks.

I added it in order to give an idea to the most clueless reader what
Python and Zope might be about. That kind of reader would probably have
heard of Java and J2EE and would therefore get something to hook up
to. It's often hard to explain something to someone without ever
mentionning well known "references".

If you think it's not a good idea, that's fine with me, just remove it.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)




From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb 11 16:25:09 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:25:09 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C67E8BF.D2F2493F@lemburg.com>
References: <20020211092250.8628.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> <1013437423.3c67d3ef3bba4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67E8BF.D2F2493F@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020211172509.B26616@carolo.net>

Le Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 04:52:31PM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg pianota:
> 
> We have a Wiki at http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/FrontPage, a 
> French only announcement on http://www.europython.org/ and a different 
> one on the P3B site.

Sorry for the europython.org/index_html :
  shame on me and long life to Zope Undo possibilities ... :-)
  
EuroPython pages on the P3B site were just a first draft waiting for the
actual EuroPython.org to be ready.
I will update a few French pages on P3B.org according to the new info on
EuroPython.org if needed (i.e. if europython has no localized version)
and more probably with news dedicated to a "very local" target.
For the rest, I will just let the announcement and a link to the official
pages. So, don't take p3b.org into account.

> Please also note that the Wiki should be considered the official
> source of documents. Any changes or new documents should go there.

And I put the French PR in the Wiki.

Am I forgiven ?

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Mon Feb 11 16:33:45 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:33:45 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C67EE5F.429435F8@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111730250.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> I've edited the press release a bit:
> 
> 	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressRelease
> 
> Nicolas, could please also add wiki pages for the other 
> languages ?!

I am not sure I were the Nicolas you were talking to, but I did it
anyway... see

 	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressRelease

I was about to remove the english text from that page since it is in

 	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressReleaseEnglish

but I thought you guys might want to use the english version on the front
page and remove the one above, as in "English won the language war".

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)




From someone@arbitrary.org  Mon Feb 11 16:44:51 2002
From: someone@arbitrary.org (Joseph Santaniello)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 08:44:51 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <20020211095405.12555.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202110837410.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>

Hello All,

Perhaps 'Python in The Real World' is just too general a topic. Maybe 
something like 'Python for solving Real World Problems' which has 
scientific issues, technical discussions, etc, and examples of real world 
solutions that have been implemented in Python, and another track that 
focuses on the more non-technical, or less specific aspects of Python in 
practice. Things like all the business, cultural, and development model 
stuff.

Does that make any sense?

Joseph


On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 at 09:54, Tim Couper wrote:

> Hi M Poinot :-) [too many Marcs :-)]
> 
> The question is what do we think are hot topics that
> would make people want to come? I'm not sure that
> databases per se are that hot - people are probably
> either using Oracle or free stuff in the relational
> domain - and they are largely understood, and covered
> quite extensively in the Python books available. I'm
> unsure about the interest in "the database what I
> wrote" talks, but they might possibly fit in well into
> the Python in the Real World - as an example of the
> power and flexibility of python, which made it
> possible to produce an object database or whatever,
> which was suited to the application space under
> consideration. 
> 
> The scientific application of python is, I suppose,
> "Python in the Scientific World" as opposed to "Python
> in the Commercial World", which is where the "Python
> in the Real World" topic started. 
> 
> However, the issues relating to Scientific python are,
> I think, fundamentally techy, and whether the array
> handling etc is more efficient or effective than doing
> it in Fortran or C; are any such scientists going to
> come who aren't already python-aware? I suspect not.
> 
> However, I think there is great value in having papers
> covering examples of scientific applications of
> python, which could be presented if there's enough
> interest, or handled as a BoF. These papers are
> valuable, in my view, as they can form the basis of
> presentations in conferences specifically focussed on
> the science concerned, and it is maybe these papers
> that act as the evangelistic vehicle for python within
> the scientific community.
> 
> So I think I'm arguing that Python in the Real world
> could include some of the science presentations? Just
> my thoughts ... 
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
>  --- Marc Poinot <Marc.Poinot@onera.fr> wrote: > 
> > > 
> > > In summary we now have the following tracks:
> > > 
> > > 1. Python and Jython
> > > 2. Zope
> > > 3. Web Services
> > > 4. Python in the Real World
> > > 
> > 
> > Again, you're all focusing on web/internet... But
> > it's funny you
> > wrote point 4 was the real world, i.e. everything
> > else but web :)
> > Java, Zope, web... all these are, of course, very
> > important for some
> > bussiness today. I should say, I has been ?
> > Most of the people I know are using Python in the
> > scientific world.
> > I always present Python as a gluing and/or
> > prototyping langage, and
> > you can see with Numerical Python or other
> > scientific modules, there
> > is a not-internet-related Python community.
> > As a matter of fact, this community is less fluent
> > with web-things,
> > mailing lits, dedicated web site, etc...
> > This morning I saw a yet-another-module-for-MPI
> > announce.
> > 
> > I propose some scientific related Python use, but I
> > must admit this will
> > imply I'll have to fill the topic with some
> > presentations...
> > 
> > David Ascher ? Konrad Hinsen ? Paul Dubois ? could
> > brightly open
> > such a topic. Then we can have about 5/10 papers of
> > scientific
> > users in Europe (At least German (DLR) and French
> > aerospace industry ;)
> > 
> > I also propose something related with
> > internationalisation, experts are
> > very close to us and it's worth being mentioned that
> > Python is ready for
> > that.
> > 
> > Then the last topic I would suggest is DBMS-related
> > topics. You think web
> > is the most important because every company has a
> > web... but there often
> > are more than one database in every company. And
> > there probably is one
> > DBMS behind every web. As far as I remember, C.
> > Tismer has worked on DBMS
> > for one of its customer ? Maybe he could be the
> > topic benevolvs-dictarvr ?
> > 
> > See Python home site topics, these main topics
> > already are there.
> > 
> > > 1. Python and Jython
> > > 2. Zope
> > > 3. Web Services
> >   4. Python for scientific World (and Galactic if
> > possible)
> >   5. Databases on earth and Python 
> > 
> > Marcvs [alias This email was not generated using a
> > Python module] 
> 
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From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 11 17:19:51 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:19:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111715170.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <3C67FD37.94CE6421@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> 
> > Something I changed in the press-release is the mentioning of
> > Java: you don't want to compare Python to Java or Zope to J2EE;
> > that's a road with a dead end in business talks.
> 
> I added it in order to give an idea to the most clueless reader what
> Python and Zope might be about. That kind of reader would probably have
> heard of Java and J2EE and would therefore get something to hook up
> to. It's often hard to explain something to someone without ever
> mentionning well known "references".

The problem with these references is that it causes people to
judge the language or application by comparing it to one of these 
references. Since Python and Zope use somewhat different strategies
to reach their goals compared to Java and J2EE, you'll have a hard
time explaining that these different strategies can be just as good
if not better. 

Java and J2EE are industry standards and there's nothing 
we can change about it (since we don't have the marketing 
power). Sad, but true.
 
> If you think it's not a good idea, that's fine with me, just remove it.

I did.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 11 19:14:34 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:14:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202110837410.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
Message-ID: <3C68181A.C6916CC8@lemburg.com>

Joseph Santaniello wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> Perhaps 'Python in The Real World' is just too general a topic. Maybe
> something like 'Python for solving Real World Problems' which has
> scientific issues, technical discussions, etc, and examples of real world
> solutions that have been implemented in Python, and another track that
> focuses on the more non-technical, or less specific aspects of Python in
> practice. Things like all the business, cultural, and development model
> stuff.

Nothing against scientific applications, but what we Tim and I
originally had in mind was a session where we could discuss
business models around Python, strategies for convincing
decision makers about the values of using Python in projects,
total cost of ownership w/r to Python and Python applications,
etc.

In that sense "the Real World" meant: Python in business
environments.

So perhaps we need two tracks:

* Python in Business
* Python in Science

I would also propose to have one tutorial day and two
conference days (dropping the dev day). This allows us
to have three tracks on each day.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From dario@ita.chalmers.se  Mon Feb 11 19:47:07 2002
From: dario@ita.chalmers.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:47:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202110837410.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org> <3C68181A.C6916CC8@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <02ab01c1b334$e38bdd30$4bdf1081@ita.chalmers.se>

----- Original Message -----
From: "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com>
<znip>
>
> So perhaps we need two tracks:
>
> * Python in Business
> * Python in Science
>
> I would also propose to have one tutorial day and two
> conference days (dropping the dev day). This allows us
> to have three tracks on each day.

Am trying to gather some interest around zope and education on the
zope-edu-list, so maybe we could have a BOF or something if interest catc=
hes
up?

How would that fit in?

/dario

- --------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K=E4sten     Systems Developer  Chalmers Univ. of Technology
dario@ita.chalmers.se  ICQ will yield no hits    IT Systems & Services




From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 11 20:54:02 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:54:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202110837410.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org> <3C68181A.C6916CC8@lemburg.com> <02ab01c1b334$e38bdd30$4bdf1081@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <3C682F6A.3BAA2F7C@lemburg.com>

Dario Lopez-K=E4sten wrote:
>=20
> > So perhaps we need two tracks:
> >
> > * Python in Business
> > * Python in Science
> >
> > I would also propose to have one tutorial day and two
> > conference days (dropping the dev day). This allows us
> > to have three tracks on each day.
>=20
> Am trying to gather some interest around zope and education on the
> zope-edu-list, so maybe we could have a BOF or something if interest ca=
tches
> up?
>=20
> How would that fit in?

I'm sure that the EDU topic fits well into the tracks
we currently have planned. BOF's are always an option,
though, just as lightning talks -- it all depends on=20
the number of attendees.

--=20
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 11 21:02:57 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:02:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202110837410.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org> <3C68181A.C6916CC8@lemburg.com> <02ab01c1b334$e38bdd30$4bdf1081@ita.chalmers.se> <3C682F6A.3BAA2F7C@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <3C683181.42698F80@lemburg.com>

FYI, I've updated the track wiki:

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTracks

The general picture is to have three tracks per day. 

Is that possible at the location (i.e. does it provide three 
rooms to actually do the talks in parallel) ?

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From someone@arbitrary.org  Mon Feb 11 21:06:00 2002
From: someone@arbitrary.org (Joseph Santaniello)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:06:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <3C68181A.C6916CC8@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111257040.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 at 20:14, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:

> Joseph Santaniello wrote:
> > 
> > Hello All,
> > 
> > Perhaps 'Python in The Real World' is just too general a topic. Maybe
> > something like 'Python for solving Real World Problems' which has
> > scientific issues, technical discussions, etc, and examples of real world
> > solutions that have been implemented in Python, and another track that
> > focuses on the more non-technical, or less specific aspects of Python in
> > practice. Things like all the business, cultural, and development model
> > stuff.
> 
> Nothing against scientific applications, but what we Tim and I
> originally had in mind was a session where we could discuss
> business models around Python, strategies for convincing
> decision makers about the values of using Python in projects,
> total cost of ownership w/r to Python and Python applications,
> etc.
> 
> In that sense "the Real World" meant: Python in business
> environments.
> 
> So perhaps we need two tracks:
> 
> * Python in Business
> * Python in Science


By Python in Business do you mean using Python to solve business problems 
(figuring out finance charges or something) or the business of using 
Python and getting it to be accepted, etc.

If we think of it as how Python can be used to figure out business 
problems, it is quite similar to scientific problems (or any other for 
that matter) and I think perhaps it would be suitable to have a track 
filled with all sorts of "real world" applications of Python, be they 
business, scientific, or whatever.

But I do agree that there should be a track specifically for the "suits" 
which discusses among other things the non-programming specific aspects of 
Python. Things like it's overall benefits, how it works well as a 
modelling language, how it is quick to develop with, how it's easy to 
read and thus maintanable, and things about how to convince 
non-technical sceptics that is is a viable alternative to other more 
well-know technologies, etc.

I think we are sort of saying the same thing.

Joseph



From someone@arbitrary.org  Mon Feb 11 21:26:10 2002
From: someone@arbitrary.org (Joseph Santaniello)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:26:10 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference Extra-curricular activities?
In-Reply-To: <3C683181.42698F80@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111320500.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>

I recall from the O'reilly OPenSource conferences that there were "open 
forums" in the conference rooms after hours which groups could sign up for 
to discuss/do whatever they wanted to. This allowed ad-hoc groups of 
people to form mini-tracks on the fly, as they saw fit.

That was one of the more interesting features, in my opinion.

It also might be nice to have some sort of open forum for people/companies
to showcase some of their work and to make potential business contacts
with others in a semi-structured way.

These are vauge not fully formed notions, but does this sound interesting?

Joseph






From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Mon Feb 11 21:31:51 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:31:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111257040.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111257040.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
Message-ID: <E16aO3E-0007Fz-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Lundi 11 F=E9vrier 2002 22:06, Joseph Santaniello a =E9crit :
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 at 20:14, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > Joseph Santaniello wrote:
> > > Hello All,
> > >
> > > Perhaps 'Python in The Real World' is just too general a topic. May=
be
> > > something like 'Python for solving Real World Problems' which has
> > > scientific issues, technical discussions, etc, and examples of real
> > > world solutions that have been implemented in Python, and another t=
rack
> > > that focuses on the more non-technical, or less specific aspects of
> > > Python in practice. Things like all the business, cultural, and
> > > development model stuff.
> >
> > Nothing against scientific applications, but what we Tim and I
> > originally had in mind was a session where we could discuss
> > business models around Python, strategies for convincing
> > decision makers about the values of using Python in projects,
> > total cost of ownership w/r to Python and Python applications,
> > etc.

What I (Nicolas Pettiaux) had in mind with something like "Python in the =
real=20
world" has nothing to do with scientific applications (I have a physics=20
background but I am not any more in such  an intersting field) but show t=
hat=20
python is good to solve "business problem" just as well as java is (or be=
tter=20
if you ask me !)

> > In that sense "the Real World" meant: Python in business
> > environments.
> >
> > So perhaps we need two tracks:

yes, we need that, provided we find the audience for both.=20

> > * Python in Business
> > * Python in Science
>
> By Python in Business do you mean using Python to solve business proble=
ms
> (figuring out finance charges or something) or the business of using
> Python and getting it to be accepted, etc.

Yes this is what I consider

> If we think of it as how Python can be used to figure out business
> problems, it is quite similar to scientific problems (or any other for
> that matter) and I think perhaps it would be suitable to have a track
> filled with all sorts of "real world" applications of Python, be they
> business, scientific, or whatever.
>
> But I do agree that there should be a track specifically for the "suits=
"
> which discusses among other things the non-programming specific aspects=
 of
> Python. Things like it's overall benefits, how it works well as a
> modelling language, how it is quick to develop with, how it's easy to
> read and thus maintanable, and things about how to convince
> non-technical sceptics that is is a viable alternative to other more
> well-know technologies, etc.
>
> I think we are sort of saying the same thing.

THank you for telling what I wanted.

Nicolas=20
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be  Mon Feb 11 21:43:56 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:43:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <3C6783F2.33C04BF2@onera.fr>
References: <E16YrvF-0007hb-00@mail.python.org> <3C667E26.179E280D@lemburg.com> <3C6783F2.33C04BF2@onera.fr>
Message-ID: <E16aOEv-0007V7-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Lundi 11 F=E9vrier 2002 09:42, Marc Poinot a =E9crit :
> > In summary we now have the following tracks:
> >
> > 1. Python and Jython
> > 2. Zope
> > 3. Web Services
> > 4. Python in the Real World
>
> Again, you're all focusing on web/internet... But it's funny you
> wrote point 4 was the real world, i.e. everything else but web :)
> Java, Zope, web... all these are, of course, very important for some
> bussiness today. I should say, I has been ?

This is just the field I am focused on now.

> Most of the people I know are using Python in the scientific world.

It depends on everyone's background and main field of interest=20

> I always present Python as a gluing and/or prototyping langage,=20

so do I.  This is indeed independat of the metiers; can be business as we=
ll=20
as science or any field

> and
> you can see with Numerical Python or other scientific modules, there
> is a not-internet-related Python community.

right

> As a matter of fact, this community is less fluent with web-things,
> mailing lits, dedicated web site, etc...
> This morning I saw a yet-another-module-for-MPI announce.
>
> I propose some scientific related Python use, but I must admit this wil=
l
> imply I'll have to fill the topic with some presentations...

You are very welcome, but I think you are right: you'll have to come with=
 the=20
people and the presentations.

> David Ascher ? Konrad Hinsen ? Paul Dubois ? could brightly open
> such a topic. Then we can have about 5/10 papers of scientific
> users in Europe (At least German (DLR) and French aerospace industry ;)

I would be really interested to see suc topics about scientific uses of=20
Python.

> I also propose something related with internationalisation, experts are
> very close to us and it's worth being mentioned that Python is ready fo=
r
> that.

Yes definitively, a internationalisation track would be welcome .=20

As well as a track "Python in computer education" I think.

> Then the last topic I would suggest is DBMS-related topics. You think w=
eb
> is the most important because every company has a web... but there ofte=
n
> are more than one database in every company. And there probably is one
> DBMS behind every web. As far as I remember, C. Tismer has worked on DB=
MS
> for one of its customer ? Maybe he could be the topic benevolvs-dictarv=
r ?

Goo idea too

> See Python home site topics, these main topics already are there.
>
> > 1. Python and Jython
> > 2. Zope
> > 3. Web Services
>
>   4. Python for scientific World (and Galactic if possible)
>   5. Databases on earth and Python

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Association =E9lectronique libre pour la promotion des=20
droits de l'Homme dans la Soci=E9t=E9 de l'information (AEL) -
www.ael.be=20


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Mon Feb 11 22:52:54 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 23:52:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Website update
References: <20020208201022.GC16229@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <027801c1b350$540b0b10$268d84d5@skullsplitter>

> http://www.europython.org now points to the new still empty website.
> I'll repeat my call for someone doing the web design; pushing it a
> leeetle bit beyond its current minimalistic design would be a good idea.
:)
>
> Tom Deprez is already working on it all. If you want to help, contact
either me or him to get a Zope login.

Correction, I haven't done anything yet, sorry!... Had/Have some family
obligations....
Now, what do we want at the website? Anybody an idea for how it has to look
like? Examples?

> Thanks to Ivo van der Wijk and Thomas Reulbach for getting the ball
> running on the website!
>
> Thanks to Ivo we now also have wiki capability on this website; you can
> add ZWiki objects. I've set up a completely minimal wiki at:
>
> http://www.europython.org/wiki
>
> Wiki away! Let me know if you need anything. Right now it's completely
> open to everybody, but perhaps we want to change that later.
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Mon Feb 11 23:06:15 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:06:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press-Release French
In-Reply-To: <20020211143657.N49147@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <20020211134254.A26073@carolo.net> <3C67BEB8.BDCCDAFE@onera.fr> <20020211143657.N49147@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <E16aPWa-0001Xr-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Lundi 11 F=E9vrier 2002 14:36, Stefane Fermigier a =E9crit :

> Je reste sur mon commentaire initial: si on se met =E0 la place du
> journaliste, qui a priori n'a jamais entendu parler de Python (sauf s'i=
l
> =E9crit pour Programmez!, Developpeur Reference, Login: ou Gnu/Linux&Hu=
rd
> Magazine France), on ne comprend rien et on passe au communiqu=E9 suiva=
nt.

tout a fait juste. il faut des exemples et comparaison par rapport =E0 qu=
elques=20
"buzz" (comme java)=20

Nicolas> =09

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Mon Feb 11 23:09:29 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:09:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <E16aPZi-0001iv-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Lundi 11 F=E9vrier 2002 16:47, Stefane Fermigier a =E9crit :=09

> I would suggest rewriting the title like:
>
>   European Python and Zope Conference 2002 to take place in Charleroi,
> Belgium, June 26-28
>
> And the header like:
>
> =09Charleroi, Brussels, Paris, Amsterdam, xxx, February 11
>
> =09For immediate release
>
> =09The EuroPython Conference Team announces that the European Python an=
d Zope
> =09Conference 2002 will take place on June 26-28 in Charleroi, Belgium.=
  This
> =09conference is an unique opportunity to bring together developers and=
 users
> of Python, the fastest growing open source / free software scripting
> language, and Zope, the leading open source / free software application
> server and content management platform.  [Add more important informatio=
n
> here]

very good I like that . Who's putting that in the wiki and making th=20
ecorresponding changes ?

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Mon Feb 11 23:07:51 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:07:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Aarggh...
Message-ID: <02f601c1b352$793b3ca0$268d84d5@skullsplitter>

Damn, I've been only a few days away and I'm totally lost in the EuroPython
mails.
Great to see much activity, but couldn't we find a more ordered way of
handling things? It's hard to follow if you've to waid through all the
messages.
Sigh,... back to reading all the messages :-)

Regards, Tom.




From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Mon Feb 11 23:18:59 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:18:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <20020211171500.A76572@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com> <20020211171500.A76572@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <E16aPiu-0001wt-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Lundi 11 F=E9vrier 2002 17:15, Stefane Fermigier a =E9crit :
> > >   European Python and Zope Conference 2002 to take place in Charler=
oi,
> > > Belgium, June 26-28
> >
> > Hmm, maybe I have missed something here, but why is there such an
> > emphasis on "Zope Conference" all of the sudden ? AFAIR, the original
> > intent was to have a Zope track at a Python conference...
>
> "European Python and Zope Conference" was something I took from the
> current PR.

> But I think that the original intent, back in december in Charleroi, wa=
s
> to call it that way, since this would bring more people to it.

For me it was indeed ... just in between, with python first and zope real=
ly=20
next to it. I can personnally sell python mainly through zope !.=20

THis is why I use: European Python and Zope or EuroPython/Zope=20

> > > And the header like:
> > >
> > >         Charleroi, Brussels, Paris, Amsterdam, xxx, February 11

THis stresses the point that there is much local support. Good idea.

 > We should just use Charleroi, since that's where the EuroPython
> > Conference Team is "officially" located.

We can distinguish the location from the annoucenement places, can't we ?

> That's an option. But giving a lot of places is a way to say this is tr=
ully
> a european event.

YES=20
> > >         Conference 2002 will take place on June 26-28 in Charleroi,
> > > Belgium.  This conference is an unique opportunity to bring togethe=
r
> > > developers and users of
> >
> > The press release has the order right: "users and developers" :-)
>
> OK.
>
> > >         Python, the fastest growing open source / free software
> > > scripting language, and Zope, the leading open source / free softwa=
re
> > > application server and content management platform.  [Add more
> > > important information here]
> >
> > Let's just leave it at "open source". I wouldn't want us to get
> > into discussions about what definition of "free" we mean here and,
> > most of all, avoid any confusion this whole discussion might
> > cause. Again, the press release is right here.

this is true but in MANY places at the European Commission and public=20
adminsitrations, people are not anymore saying open source byut free or l=
ibre=20
software, stressing the freedom it gives.

I propose to keep Stefane's proposal and refuse to debate about that (for=
=20
many it is the same anyway)

> > Something I changed in the press-release is the mentioning of
> > Java: you don't want to compare Python to Java or Zope to J2EE;
> > that's a road with a dead end in business talks.
>
> Right.

but the reference was good. need to find somthing else.

Thanks,

NPE

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From someone@arbitrary.org  Mon Feb 11 23:20:19 2002
From: someone@arbitrary.org (Joseph Santaniello)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:20:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [EuroPython] Website update
In-Reply-To: <027801c1b350$540b0b10$268d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111512550.31917-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 at 23:52, Tom Deprez wrote:

> > http://www.europython.org now points to the new still empty website.
> > I'll repeat my call for someone doing the web design; pushing it a
> > leeetle bit beyond its current minimalistic design would be a good idea.
> :)
> >
> > Tom Deprez is already working on it all. If you want to help, contact
> either me or him to get a Zope login.
> 
> Correction, I haven't done anything yet, sorry!... Had/Have some family
> obligations....
> Now, what do we want at the website? Anybody an idea for how it has to look
> like? Examples?

Hi Tom,

Are you interested in working on the technical details of the web site, or 
the graphical elements, or both? I say this because a someone whom 
I have helped with some Zope backend stuff for some of his clients is 
perhaps interested in helping with the graphic stuff, so if you don't want 
to do the graphic stuff, I'll let them know that it's maybe open for them.

Joseph


> 
> > Thanks to Ivo van der Wijk and Thomas Reulbach for getting the ball
> > running on the website!
> >
> > Thanks to Ivo we now also have wiki capability on this website; you can
> > add ZWiki objects. I've set up a completely minimal wiki at:
> >
> > http://www.europython.org/wiki
> >
> > Wiki away! Let me know if you need anything. Right now it's completely
> > open to everybody, but perhaps we want to change that later.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Martijn
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > EuroPython mailing list
> > EuroPython@python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 

-- 
Joseph Santaniello      http://www.arbitrary.org/
F8D7 FA00 845C DCAD 1759 57F3 CFE0 E57C CD94 10F8
--






From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Mon Feb 11 23:20:36 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:20:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Aarggh...
In-Reply-To: <02f601c1b352$793b3ca0$268d84d5@skullsplitter>
References: <02f601c1b352$793b3ca0$268d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <E16aPkT-0001xx-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Mardi 12 F=E9vrier 2002 00:07, Tom Deprez a =E9crit :
> Damn, I've been only a few days away and I'm totally lost in the EuroPy=
thon
> mails.

Dear Tom,

please go and have a look at the wiki on www.europython.org/wiki=20

It is nearly a summary and will let you start with the last situation.

> Great to see much activity, but couldn't we find a more ordered way of
> handling things? It's hard to follow if you've to waid through all the
> messages.

the wiki is mainly the right answer.

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Mon Feb 11 23:23:09 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:23:09 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference Extra-curricular activities?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111320500.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111320500.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
Message-ID: <E16aPmw-00022K-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Lundi 11 F=E9vrier 2002 22:26, Joseph Santaniello a =E9crit :
> I recall from the O'reilly OPenSource conferences that there were "open
> forums" in the conference rooms after hours which groups could sign up =
for
> to discuss/do whatever they wanted to. This allowed ad-hoc groups of
> people to form mini-tracks on the fly, as they saw fit.
>
> That was one of the more interesting features, in my opinion.
>
> It also might be nice to have some sort of open forum for people/compan=
ies
> to showcase some of their work and to make potential business contacts
> with others in a semi-structured way.

Very important for the business track
=20
> These are vauge not fully formed notions, but does this sound interesti=
ng?

YES

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From someone@arbitrary.org  Mon Feb 11 23:25:00 2002
From: someone@arbitrary.org (Joseph Santaniello)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:25:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [EuroPython] Aarggh...
In-Reply-To: <E16aPkT-0001xx-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111523300.31917-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 at 00:20, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:

> Le Mardi 12 F=E9vrier 2002 00:07, Tom Deprez a =E9crit :
> > Damn, I've been only a few days away and I'm totally lost in the Euro=
Python
> > mails.
>=20
> Dear Tom,
>=20
> please go and have a look at the wiki on www.europython.org/wiki=20
>=20
> It is nearly a summary and will let you start with the last situation.
>=20
> > Great to see much activity, but couldn't we find a more ordered way o=
f
> > handling things? It's hard to follow if you've to waid through all th=
e
> > messages.
>=20
> the wiki is mainly the right answer.

What is the "protocol" for responsible wiki editing? I don't want to go=20
messing anything up for someone.

Joseph



>=20
> Nicolas
>=20

--=20
Joseph Santaniello      http://www.arbitrary.org/
F8D7 FA00 845C DCAD 1759 57F3 CFE0 E57C CD94 10F8
--






From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Mon Feb 11 23:24:00 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:24:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <02ab01c1b334$e38bdd30$4bdf1081@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202110837410.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org> <3C68181A.C6916CC8@lemburg.com> <02ab01c1b334$e38bdd30$4bdf1081@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <E16aPnl-00022y-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

> Am trying to gather some interest around zope and education on the
> zope-edu-list, so maybe we could have a BOF or something if interest
> catches up?
>
> How would that fit in?

very well for me.=20

I changed the wiki to reflect this. Please go on and add your ideas there=
=2E

Thanks

NPE
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 11 23:29:35 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:29:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202110837410.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
References: <20020211095405.12555.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202110837410.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
Message-ID: <20020211232935.GA28241@vet.uu.nl>

Joseph Santaniello wrote:
> Perhaps 'Python in The Real World' is just too general a topic. Maybe 
> something like 'Python for solving Real World Problems' which has 
> scientific issues, technical discussions, etc, and examples of real world 
> solutions that have been implemented in Python, and another track that 
> focuses on the more non-technical, or less specific aspects of Python in 
> practice. Things like all the business, cultural, and development model 
> stuff.

That's a good split. There's Python applications (within science, the web,
etc, which can be different tracks), and there's Python's political/cultural
aspects (python in an organization, how to use Python's strengths, what
to watch out for, how to get Python accepted, etc).

Then there's also 'cool Python technologies', which could be a presentation
on the ZODB, on the Psyco specializing compiler, Jython, microthreads and
so on. Sometimes that's better in tutorial form, sometimes it's better to do
a presentation; it depends on how mature the topic area is among others.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 11 23:34:53 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:34:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference Extra-curricular activities?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111320500.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
References: <3C683181.42698F80@lemburg.com> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111320500.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
Message-ID: <20020211233453.GB28241@vet.uu.nl>

Joseph Santaniello wrote:
> 
> I recall from the O'reilly OPenSource conferences that there were "open 
> forums" in the conference rooms after hours which groups could sign up for 
> to discuss/do whatever they wanted to. This allowed ad-hoc groups of 
> people to form mini-tracks on the fly, as they saw fit.
> 
> That was one of the more interesting features, in my opinion.

Right, these would be Birds of a Feather sessions. These can be entirely
ad-hoc, or can be a bit more structured with some presentations included.

I also much enjoyed last years (couldn't attend this year) lightning talks.
I think a lightning talk session would be neat to have. A lightning talk
consists of a very short (I think it was 10 minutes or so) presentation on
some issue, and you'd have a lot in a row.

> It also might be nice to have some sort of open forum for people/companies
> to showcase some of their work and to make potential business contacts
> with others in a semi-structured way.

Sort of like a poster presentation session, I think.

> These are vauge not fully formed notions, but does this sound interesting?

Yes, they make sense. I'll add a wiki page on stuff like this..

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 11 23:40:52 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:40:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <3c64363e.46035976@mail.wanadoo.dk>
References: <3c64363e.46035976@mail.wanadoo.dk>
Message-ID: <20020211234052.GC28241@vet.uu.nl>

Finn Bock wrote:
> [Martijn Faassen]
> 
> >Don't we have a bunch of European Jython hackers? Now what's his name..
> >Right, Finn Bock in Denmark. 
> 
> And Samuele Pedroni with a .ch domain.

Can you contact him, if he's not already on the list? 

> >I've just sent off an email to him asking if he's interested.
> 
> I am. Not sure what kind of topics you have been discussing, but if you
> are looking for a session where I go over a number of the technical
> issues and decissions that faces jython, then I could do that.

Excellent, I'll add a Jython session to the wiki. Oh, there's one already
there, I think.. we need to start fleshing out actual talks, I'll open
a wiki page, PeopleAndTalks to keep a list. Everyone's free to add people
(including themselves) to this list.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 11 23:43:26 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:43:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111212310.11594-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <E16ZaZr-0007Lp-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111212310.11594-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020211234326.GD28241@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> I am glad to announce that we (Logilab) plan on helping as much as we can
> with the EuroPythonZopeConference. I assume you know us already (at least 
> we know most of you :-), but in case you wouldn't, check out
> 
> 	http://www.logilab.org/

Much cheering from me! You were on my mental list of people to contact.

Once you stop to think about it, it's amazing how much cool Python 
development actually happens right here in Europe.

Thanks,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 11 23:48:01 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:48:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020211234801.GE28241@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> I updated the english PR in an effort to make it more journalist
> friendly. You folks let me know what you think of my changes or just
> revert them.

I've altered 'the leading' for both Zope & Python to 'a leading', which
still sounds impressive and invokes less debate. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 11 23:52:41 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:52:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com>
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020211235241.GF28241@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> > 
> > I would suggest rewriting the title like:
> > 
> >   European Python and Zope Conference 2002 to take place in Charleroi, Belgium,
> >   June 26-28
> 
> Hmm, maybe I have missed something here, but why is there such an
> emphasis on "Zope Conference" all of the sudden ? AFAIR, the original
> intent was to have a Zope track at a Python conference...

While the original intent was to have a conference about Python (..and
then also Zope), i.e. Zope comes second, there weren't any sudden
changes in emphasis at all.

If this is a political issue I for one am quite willing to drop 
the 'and Zope' from the title, however. 

> > And the header like:
> > 
> >         Charleroi, Brussels, Paris, Amsterdam, xxx, February 11
> 
> We should just use Charleroi, since that's where the EuroPython 
> Conference Team is "officially" located.

Right, and I'm in Rotterdam or in Utrecht, depending on when you're looking.
Though www.europython.org runs in Amsterdam. :)

[snip comments from Marc-Andre that are sensible; stay away from mentioning
Java, let's not get lost in the free/open source debate, etc]

I don't know who has the final version of the press release now.. Can we
pick one or two people who manage this whole press release story? I'd be
glad to let others do this. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 11 23:55:51 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:55:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C67E8BF.D2F2493F@lemburg.com>
References: <20020211092250.8628.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> <1013437423.3c67d3ef3bba4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67E8BF.D2F2493F@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020211235551.GG28241@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> We have a Wiki at http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/FrontPage, a 
> French only announcement on http://www.europython.org/ and a different 
> one on the P3B site.

The first two are in fact the same site. Due to DNS issues not in my
control www.europython.org points at europython.zope.nl, but it's not
a DNSy pointing but a redirect-style pointing, I think...

Thomas Reulbach and Ivo van der Wijk can get together to fix this.

Tom Deprez will hopefully work with Denis to move the stuff from the P3B
site towards the www.europython.org site.

> Please also note that the Wiki should be considered the official
> source of documents. Any changes or new documents should go there.

Agreed.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 11 23:59:48 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 00:59:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C67E5CC.BC9ABC5F@lemburg.com>
References: <20020211092250.8628.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> <1013437423.3c67d3ef3bba4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C67E5CC.BC9ABC5F@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020211235948.GH28241@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > 
> > Could someone say clearly when the English Press Release
> > is declared to be finished, so I can translate it in German,
> > please?
> 
> Let's put a deadline on it: next Friday. 

Sounds good. This is then also the deadline after which we should start
with the translation from the English source text?

> Then we should take whatever is there and post it to the relevant 
> press entities.

Perhaps we should start a wiki page listing these press entities, so we
can actually coordinate which one we contact and we have a handy list for
the next time we'll send out a press release. I'll start a preliminary
list.

> Would be nice to have some more translations... French, Spanish,
> Italian, Russian (my girl friend can help with that one), Polish,
> etc.

I can do the Dutch one.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 00:05:04 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 01:05:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsoring
In-Reply-To: <20020211113300.G49147@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <1013417687.3c6786d716de4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020211113300.G49147@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <20020212000503.GI28241@vet.uu.nl>

Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:54:47AM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > maybe I just forgot about it, but I don't quite remember
> > having seen anybody mentioning the sponsoring issue.
> > Could anybody elaborate a bit on this one, please?
> 
> As said during the december meeting that my company, Nuxeo, could probably
> give 500 Euros, but it's too early to make a firm commitment.

Infrae (mine and Kit Blake's company) can put in some euros too. Paul
Everitt also wrote in before and said Zope Corporation could contribute a
'couple of hundred bucks'.

We need some kind of policy though so that sponsors can start sponsoring,
and know what they'll get back for it. Perhaps sponsors get space for
a poster presentation of some sort? And of course they get added to some
list of sponsors we'll display prominently everywhere.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 00:05:39 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 01:05:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsoring
In-Reply-To: <3C67E42A.1D53DEF0@lemburg.com>
References: <1013417687.3c6786d716de4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C67E42A.1D53DEF0@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020212000539.GJ28241@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> We'll need to budget this event in order to be able to tell
> how much sponsoring we need. Ideal would be to get some EU
> funds for the event, but I don't know whether we have any
> EU contacts... ?

Nicolas P does.

Regards,

Martijn



From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Tue Feb 12 00:20:56 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 01:20:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press-Release French
In-Reply-To: <E16aPWa-0001Xr-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <20020211134254.A26073@carolo.net> <3C67BEB8.BDCCDAFE@onera.fr> <20020211143657.N49147@math.jussieu.fr> <E16aPWa-0001Xr-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020212012056.B29076@carolo.net>

Le Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:06:15AM +0100, Nicolas Pettiaux pianota:
> Le Lundi 11 F=E9vrier 2002 14:36, Stefane Fermigier a =E9crit :
>=20
> > Je reste sur mon commentaire initial: si on se met =E0 la place du
> > journaliste, qui a priori n'a jamais entendu parler de Python (sauf s=
'il
> > =E9crit pour Programmez!, Developpeur Reference, Login: ou Gnu/Linux&=
Hurd
> > Magazine France), on ne comprend rien et on passe au communiqu=E9 sui=
vant.
>=20
> tout a fait juste. il faut des exemples et comparaison par rapport =E0 =
quelques=20
> "buzz" (comme java)=20

I don't know if it's what St=E9fane meant.

A+
--=20
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org=20
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 00:23:33 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 01:23:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Aarggh...
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111523300.31917-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
References: <E16aPkT-0001xx-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111523300.31917-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
Message-ID: <20020212002333.GA28951@vet.uu.nl>

Joseph Santaniello wrote:
> What is the "protocol" for responsible wiki editing? I don't want to go 
> messing anything up for someone.

No protocol yet. I could probably add all sorts of logins and security
stuff with sufficient work, but I think we'd better run with the 
flexibility and take the occasional lossage. It's possible to use
Zope's undo if something really important got lost, too. Just contact
me, Denis or Tom about it in that case.

We do have the creator of the MoinMoin wiki on this list, though. We 
may eventually want to consider using that one instead, it may have a
few useful features (ZWiki generally has a 'some assembly required' feel
to it..).

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 00:26:35 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 01:26:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Website update
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111512550.31917-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
References: <027801c1b350$540b0b10$268d84d5@skullsplitter> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111512550.31917-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
Message-ID: <20020212002635.GB28951@vet.uu.nl>

Joseph Santaniello wrote:
[asking Tom]
> Are you interested in working on the technical details of the web site, or 
> the graphical elements, or both? I say this because a someone whom 
> I have helped with some Zope backend stuff for some of his clients is 
> perhaps interested in helping with the graphic stuff, so if you don't want 
> to do the graphic stuff, I'll let them know that it's maybe open for them.

I'm not Tom, but I think we can always use him, so feel free to let him
know it's open to him. Tell him to get in touch with Tom so they
can coordinate stuff. I can help with some technical stuff for
the website as well, but I think I'll work through Tom. Tom, if you
want a (formulator) form for something, you know how to reach me. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Tue Feb 12 01:44:14 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 02:44:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <20020211232935.GA28241@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020211095405.12555.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202110837410.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org> <20020211232935.GA28241@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020212024414.D29076@carolo.net>

Le Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 12:29:35AM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> 
> That's a good split. There's Python applications (within science, the web,
> etc, which can be different tracks), and there's Python's political/cultural
> aspects (python in an organization, how to use Python's strengths, what
> to watch out for, how to get Python accepted, etc).
> 
> Then there's also 'cool Python technologies', which could be a presentation
> on the ZODB, on the Psyco specializing compiler, Jython, microthreads and
> so on.

Does some of you know a Visual Python team mate ?
It's very visual :-) and hence appealing...

Good we get "warm" !

Now, keep in mind the facts :

1. Rooms : 
Would I cold your enthousiasm if I send you to the URL :
http://www.ceme.be/en/sallea.htm 
and that one :
http://www.ceme.be/en/salleb.htm 
for you having a good idea of the available rooms ?
(The multi-purpose room would be left for the meals)

2. Time :
As I told you in a previous mail, we should leave the building before
13h00 on the Friday.
That's why I thought we could have such a grid :
---------------------------------------------------------
             |    AM    |  midday  |    PM   | evening  |
---------------------------------------------------------
Wednesday 26 | Conf.    | lunch in | Conf.   | social   |
             |          | the CEME |         | activity |
---------------------------------------------------------	     
Thursday 27  | Conf.    | lunch in | Conf.   | social   |
             |          | the CEME |         | activity |
---------------------------------------------------------	     
Friday 28    | Conf.    | lunch  somewhere else followed|
             |          | by free (openair?) discussions|
---------------------------------------------------------	     

3. Attendence :
How many people do we expect to have in each category ?
Developpers
Users
Curious
Business
Education
Administration
...

OK, now we have a grid, let's fill the cells.

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From someone@arbitrary.org  Tue Feb 12 04:34:44 2002
From: someone@arbitrary.org (Joseph Santaniello)
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:34:44 -0800
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsoring
In-Reply-To: <20020212000503.GI28241@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <D67946EE-1F71-11D6-9DBD-00039316EF5E@arbitrary.org>

On Monday, February 11, 2002, at 04:05 , Martijn Faassen wrote:

> Stefane Fermigier wrote:
>> On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:54:47AM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> maybe I just forgot about it, but I don't quite remember
>>> having seen anybody mentioning the sponsoring issue.
>>> Could anybody elaborate a bit on this one, please?
>>
>> As said during the december meeting that my company, Nuxeo, could 
>> probably
>> give 500 Euros, but it's too early to make a firm commitment.
>
> Infrae (mine and Kit Blake's company) can put in some euros too. Paul
> Everitt also wrote in before and said Zope Corporation could 
> contribute a
> 'couple of hundred bucks'.
>
> We need some kind of policy though so that sponsors can start 
> sponsoring,
> and know what they'll get back for it. Perhaps sponsors get space for
> a poster presentation of some sort? And of course they get added to some
> list of sponsors we'll display prominently everywhere.
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn
>
>

Another idea for covering expenses is having raffle prizes. For example 
the meeting rooms could have temporary 802.11b wireless access points 
set up, and for 5 euros or whatever attendees could buy raffle tickets 
to win them at the end of the conference. Maybe getting sponsors to 
donate hardware like this would be easier than cash.

Joseph



From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Tue Feb 12 06:00:00 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:00:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Education competition and price + sponsors
Message-ID: <E16aVz1-0004nj-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Dear all,

2 ideas :

1/ Python is a good rapid application developpement tool, that is also ea=
sy=20
to learn.=20

Why dont't we launch a contest in the European schools and high school we=
=20
know in Europe for an application, in python, on any platform (showing py=
hton=20
portability) ? THe price would be given at during the conference by=20
aplitician. THis can attrat both politicians (they like distributing pric=
es,=20
this is not hard to do !) and public.

2/ contact sponsors, especially the ones that supported the Python10=20
conference and editors who publish python/zope books to ask them to give =
us=20
some books to distribute. Also contact O'Reilly (but mind that we are not=
=20
selling the conference, just looking for partners) O'Reilly is supporting=
=20
FOSDEM in BRussels next week.=20

Is there some one volunteering for that ?=20

Thanks,

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Tue Feb 12 06:06:52 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:06:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsoring
In-Reply-To: <20020212000539.GJ28241@vet.uu.nl>
References: <1013417687.3c6786d716de4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C67E42A.1D53DEF0@lemburg.com> <20020212000539.GJ28241@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <E16aW5f-0004rB-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Mardi 12 F=E9vrier 2002 01:05, Martijn Faassen a =E9crit :
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > We'll need to budget this event in order to be able to tell
> > how much sponsoring we need. Ideal would be to get some EU
> > funds for the event, but I don't know whether we have any
> > EU contacts... ?

> Nicolas P does.

OK we shall have some support though the ASWAD project.=20

Don't know the amount yet. Could hopefully be of the order or 2000 EUR.

I'll start to see next week if we can find more.

Couldn't we start also a contributions/supports/donations page ?

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Tue Feb 12 06:08:17 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 07:08:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <20020211234326.GD28241@vet.uu.nl>
References: <E16ZaZr-0007Lp-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111212310.11594-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020211234326.GD28241@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <E16aW72-0004st-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Mardi 12 F=E9vrier 2002 00:43, Martijn Faassen a =E9crit :

> > =09http://www.logilab.org/
>
> Much cheering from me! You were on my mental list of people to contact.
>
> Once you stop to think about it, it's amazing how much cool Python
> development actually happens right here in Europe.

this is very true and needs to be emphasized.

Nicolas P
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Tue Feb 12 07:19:49 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:19:49 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] ConferenceOrganizers page added
Message-ID: <1013498389.3c68c21553e49@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Bonjour,

as I'm probably not the only one getting increasingly confused
about the matter, I added a ConferenceOrganizers page to the
Wiki with three initial names on it that were among the latest
in my mailbox:

  http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceOrganizers

I hope, everybody will write a concise paragraph sooner or 
later about his or her role(s) during that conference prepara-
tion. And I hope this overview will be useful for all others, but 
also for these people themselves! ;-)

Amities,

Dinu


From tim@2wave.net  Tue Feb 12 08:54:59 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 08:54:59 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111257040.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>
Message-ID: <20020212085459.76941.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>

OK. So we're agreed broadly about the scope. However,
we do need to get the right topic title, 'cos if we're
confused, it'll be 10x worse for attendees!

"Suits". While it's unlikely that members of this
species will appear at a Python conference (it being
perceived as a techy conference), what's probably
wanted is a clear presentation of the arguments and
resources that can be used/available to win hearts and
minds of such persons. This is one of the key thoughts
behind the Python and Business track (perhaps
"Business" is misleading). With that as a goal, I
think we need case studies based on "this is the
organisation and its mindset, here's what we did and
here's how we changed it (or failed to change it and
why)". Clearly this is applicable to anyone who's
trying to use python in their work - either in the
commercial or scientific domains. I'm unsure how much
interest/overlap there is between these 2 domains,
insofar as the "suit" problems being addressed overlap
- although one does need arguments for both managerial
"Suits" and technical "Prima Donnas". Maybe we should
call the session "My mind's made up; don't confuse me
with the facts" ...

Anyway, looking at practicalities, if this is where we
want to go, I wonder if we could have a series of
10-15 minute talks, say for an afternoon, asking
presenters to focus on the issues which enabled them
to succeed in introducing, or reinforcing the use of,
Python in their organisation, and can follow it with a
BOF for those who'd like to develop or promote any 
ideas further. 

Just my 2 (euro)cents

Tim


--- Joseph Santaniello <someone@arbitrary.org> wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 at 20:14, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> 
> > Joseph Santaniello wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hello All,
> > > 
> > > Perhaps 'Python in The Real World' is just too
> general a topic. Maybe
> > > something like 'Python for solving Real World
> Problems' which has
> > > scientific issues, technical discussions, etc,
> and examples of real world
> > > solutions that have been implemented in Python,
> and another track that
> > > focuses on the more non-technical, or less
> specific aspects of Python in
> > > practice. Things like all the business,
> cultural, and development model
> > > stuff.
> > 
> > Nothing against scientific applications, but what
> we Tim and I
> > originally had in mind was a session where we
> could discuss
> > business models around Python, strategies for
> convincing
> > decision makers about the values of using Python
> in projects,
> > total cost of ownership w/r to Python and Python
> applications,
> > etc.
> > 
> > In that sense "the Real World" meant: Python in
> business
> > environments.
> > 
> > So perhaps we need two tracks:
> > 
> > * Python in Business
> > * Python in Science
> 
> 
> By Python in Business do you mean using Python to
> solve business problems 
> (figuring out finance charges or something) or the
> business of using 
> Python and getting it to be accepted, etc.
> 
> If we think of it as how Python can be used to
> figure out business 
> problems, it is quite similar to scientific problems
> (or any other for 
> that matter) and I think perhaps it would be
> suitable to have a track 
> filled with all sorts of "real world" applications
> of Python, be they 
> business, scientific, or whatever.
> 
> But I do agree that there should be a track
> specifically for the "suits" 
> which discusses among other things the
> non-programming specific aspects of 
> Python. Things like it's overall benefits, how it
> works well as a 
> modelling language, how it is quick to develop with,
> how it's easy to 
> read and thus maintanable, and things about how to
> convince 
> non-technical sceptics that is is a viable
> alternative to other more 
> well-know technologies, etc.
> 
> I think we are sort of saying the same thing.
> 
> Joseph
>  

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From Marc.Poinot@onera.fr  Tue Feb 12 08:55:57 2002
From: Marc.Poinot@onera.fr (Marc Poinot)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:55:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
Message-ID: <3C68D89D.FB37A56F@onera.fr>

How can I invite speakers ?

I have some contacts, at least with 3 speakers for papers. But I want
to invite some US speakers and I wonder if some of you has an idea ?
Or a piece of idea ? Or a beginning of a piece of a bit of a thought ?

Plane ticket, hotel ?

So far, I'm telling people to give an informal agreement and to reserve
the days. 

Marcvs [alias Scientists and industrial Pythoneers track is on the track]


From sf@fermigier.com  Tue Feb 12 08:59:41 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:59:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
In-Reply-To: <3C68D89D.FB37A56F@onera.fr>; from Marc.Poinot@onera.fr on Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 09:55:57AM +0100
References: <3C68D89D.FB37A56F@onera.fr>
Message-ID: <20020212095941.A63572@math.jussieu.fr>

On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 09:55:57AM +0100, Marc Poinot wrote:
>=20
> How can I invite speakers ?
>=20
> I have some contacts, at least with 3 speakers for papers. But I want
> to invite some US speakers and I wonder if some of you has an idea ?
> Or a piece of idea ? Or a beginning of a piece of a bit of a thought ?
>=20
> Plane ticket, hotel ?
>=20
> So far, I'm telling people to give an informal agreement and to reserve
> the days.=20

Shouldn't there be a conference commitee, with a call for papers and a
selection among the submited papers ?

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From Marc.Poinot@onera.fr  Tue Feb 12 09:03:18 2002
From: Marc.Poinot@onera.fr (Marc Poinot)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:03:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
References: <3C68D89D.FB37A56F@onera.fr> <20020212095941.A63572@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <3C68DA56.F73C62DC@onera.fr>

Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 09:55:57AM +0100, Marc Poinot wrote:
> >
> > How can I invite speakers ?
> >
> > I have some contacts, at least with 3 speakers for papers. But I want
> > to invite some US speakers and I wonder if some of you has an idea ?
> > Or a piece of idea ? Or a beginning of a piece of a bit of a thought ?
> >
> > Plane ticket, hotel ?
> >
> > So far, I'm telling people to give an informal agreement and to reserve
> > the days.
> 
> Shouldn't there be a conference commitee, with a call for papers and a
> selection among the submited papers ?
> 
For paper, yes. But I'm not sure we will have hundred of proposals...

For invited speakers ? I agree you would like to give a yes/no to all
proposals, but we certainly need to have some gourous...

Marcvs [alias My proposed invited speaker is P. Dubois]


From sf@fermigier.com  Tue Feb 12 09:16:25 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:16:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
In-Reply-To: <3C68DA56.F73C62DC@onera.fr>; from Marc.Poinot@onera.fr on Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 10:03:18AM +0100
References: <3C68D89D.FB37A56F@onera.fr> <20020212095941.A63572@math.jussieu.fr> <3C68DA56.F73C62DC@onera.fr>
Message-ID: <20020212101625.B63572@math.jussieu.fr>

On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 10:03:18AM +0100, Marc Poinot wrote:
> For paper, yes. But I'm not sure we will have hundred of proposals...
>=20
> For invited speakers ? I agree you would like to give a yes/no to all
> proposals, but we certainly need to have some gourous...

Right. But I think the names of people to contact should be decided by
the conference commitee (of which, as I stated in Charleroi in december,
I'm willing to take part) beforehand.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 12 09:26:28 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:26:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com> <20020211171500.A76572@math.jussieu.fr> <E16aPiu-0001wt-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <3C68DFC4.C933E296@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> 
> > > > And the header like:
> > > >
> > > >         Charleroi, Brussels, Paris, Amsterdam, xxx, February 11
> 
> THis stresses the point that there is much local support. Good idea.
> 
>  > We should just use Charleroi, since that's where the EuroPython
> > > Conference Team is "officially" located.
> 
> We can distinguish the location from the annoucenement places, can't we ?
> 
> > That's an option. But giving a lot of places is a way to say this is trully
> > a european event.
> 
> YES

Except that it looks silly and is not what you'd normally put 
into a press release text. Since the organization team has it's
official lieu in Chareloi, that's the place to put into the text.

> > > >         Conference 2002 will take place on June 26-28 in Charleroi,
> > > > Belgium.  This conference is an unique opportunity to bring together
> > > > developers and users of
> > >
> > > The press release has the order right: "users and developers" :-)
> >
> > OK.
> >
> > > >         Python, the fastest growing open source / free software
> > > > scripting language, and Zope, the leading open source / free software
> > > > application server and content management platform.  [Add more
> > > > important information here]
> > >
> > > Let's just leave it at "open source". I wouldn't want us to get
> > > into discussions about what definition of "free" we mean here and,
> > > most of all, avoid any confusion this whole discussion might
> > > cause. Again, the press release is right here.
> 
> this is true but in MANY places at the European Commission and public
> adminsitrations, people are not anymore saying open source byut free or libre
> software, stressing the freedom it gives.
> 
> I propose to keep Stefane's proposal and refuse to debate about that (for
> many it is the same anyway)

I'm strongly -1 on that one and refuse any discussion on that 
one :-)

Seriously, we don't need politics in the announcement. This is
not the FSF, it's EuroPython. It is generally understood that 
open source is a superset of free software.
 
> > > Something I changed in the press-release is the mentioning of
> > > Java: you don't want to compare Python to Java or Zope to J2EE;
> > > that's a road with a dead end in business talks.
> >
> > Right.
> 
> but the reference was good. need to find somthing else.

The web-sites should have enough information on this. I don't
really think we do ourselves any good by trying to compress
a comparison into one short sentence.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Tue Feb 12 09:42:28 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:42:28 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <3C68181A.C6916CC8@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121037070.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> So perhaps we need two tracks:
> 
> * Python in Business
> * Python in Science

As Python is largely used in science, I think it would be good to provide
a gathering place for all those who use it that way. As someone already
proposed, I think Konrad Hinsen (hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr) would be a nice
person to organize the track.

If he doesn't want to, I am willing to do it, but be aware that Logilab
offers professional training for Python+Science. That would help me to set
up the track as we already have many contacts, but I wouldn't want people
to think that I am doing it only out of interest.

One solution would be for both of us to organize it together.

Comments ?

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From sf@fermigier.com  Tue Feb 12 09:44:00 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:44:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C68DFC4.C933E296@lemburg.com>; from mal@lemburg.com on Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 10:26:28AM +0100
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com> <20020211171500.A76572@math.jussieu.fr> <E16aPiu-0001wt-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C68DFC4.C933E296@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr>

On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 10:26:28AM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>=20
> Seriously, we don't need politics in the announcement. This is
> not the FSF, it's EuroPython. It is generally understood that=20
> open source is a superset of free software.

It is understood by me that free software and open source software are
basically two different ways to name the same kind of software, but that =
people
strongly disagree on the best word to use.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 12 09:49:06 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:49:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference Extra-curricular activities?
References: <3C683181.42698F80@lemburg.com> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111320500.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org> <20020211233453.GB28241@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C68E512.22C8FB73@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Joseph Santaniello wrote:
> >
> > I recall from the O'reilly OPenSource conferences that there were "open
> > forums" in the conference rooms after hours which groups could sign up for
> > to discuss/do whatever they wanted to. This allowed ad-hoc groups of
> > people to form mini-tracks on the fly, as they saw fit.
> >
> > That was one of the more interesting features, in my opinion.
> 
> Right, these would be Birds of a Feather sessions. These can be entirely
> ad-hoc, or can be a bit more structured with some presentations included.
> 
> I also much enjoyed last years (couldn't attend this year) lightning talks.
> I think a lightning talk session would be neat to have. A lightning talk
> consists of a very short (I think it was 10 minutes or so) presentation on
> some issue, and you'd have a lot in a row.

In summary, we'll need 

* BOFs (small get-together-like discussion rounds with a
  BOF manager; these should be planned shortly before the conference),

and

* Lightning Talks (very short presentations on various subjects, 
  to be announced at the conference), 

Since we can't really plan them now, I suggest to just integrate
these into the time table somewhere.

I'm not sure whether we can start creating a time table just yet,
though :-)

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 12 09:56:28 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 10:56:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com> <20020211235241.GF28241@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C68E6CC.D5D2B0F8@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> > >
> > > I would suggest rewriting the title like:
> > >
> > >   European Python and Zope Conference 2002 to take place in Charleroi, Belgium,
> > >   June 26-28
> >
> > Hmm, maybe I have missed something here, but why is there such an
> > emphasis on "Zope Conference" all of the sudden ? AFAIR, the original
> > intent was to have a Zope track at a Python conference...
> 
> While the original intent was to have a conference about Python (..and
> then also Zope), i.e. Zope comes second, there weren't any sudden
> changes in emphasis at all.
> 
> If this is a political issue I for one am quite willing to drop
> the 'and Zope' from the title, however.

I don't have an issue with it, but the current press release
text puts more emphasis on Zope than on Python and that's
not what I had expected from the first *Python* conference
in Europe (after many many years).
 
> > > And the header like:
> > >
> > >         Charleroi, Brussels, Paris, Amsterdam, xxx, February 11
> >
> > We should just use Charleroi, since that's where the EuroPython
> > Conference Team is "officially" located.
> 
> Right, and I'm in Rotterdam or in Utrecht, depending on when you're looking.
> Though www.europython.org runs in Amsterdam. :)
> 
> [snip comments from Marc-Andre that are sensible; stay away from mentioning
> Java, let's not get lost in the free/open source debate, etc]
> 
> I don't know who has the final version of the press release now.. Can we
> pick one or two people who manage this whole press release story? I'd be
> glad to let others do this. :)

The wiki has the current version and we put a deadline on the text:
next friday. After that we'll need up-to-date translations and can
then start pushing the release out the door.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From sf@fermigier.com  Tue Feb 12 10:00:31 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:00:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C68E6CC.D5D2B0F8@lemburg.com>; from mal@lemburg.com on Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 10:56:28AM +0100
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com> <20020211235241.GF28241@vet.uu.nl> <3C68E6CC.D5D2B0F8@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020212110031.D63572@math.jussieu.fr>

On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 10:56:28AM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> >=20
> > While the original intent was to have a conference about Python (..an=
d
> > then also Zope), i.e. Zope comes second, there weren't any sudden
> > changes in emphasis at all.
> >=20
> > If this is a political issue I for one am quite willing to drop
> > the 'and Zope' from the title, however.
>=20
> I don't have an issue with it, but the current press release
> text puts more emphasis on Zope than on Python and that's
> not what I had expected from the first *Python* conference
> in Europe (after many many years).

Right.

> The wiki has the current version and we put a deadline on the text:
> next friday. After that we'll need up-to-date translations and can
> then start pushing the release out the door.

Great! (Spreading the word about how great Python is is pretty exciting f=
or
me.)

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 12 10:01:59 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:01:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020211092250.8628.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> <1013437423.3c67d3ef3bba4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C67E5CC.BC9ABC5F@lemburg.com> <20020211235948.GH28241@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C68E817.E5992511@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> > Then we should take whatever is there and post it to the relevant
> > press entities.
> 
> Perhaps we should start a wiki page listing these press entities, so we
> can actually coordinate which one we contact and we have a handy list for
> the next time we'll send out a press release. I'll start a preliminary
> list.

Good idea... (how do you add pages to a wiki ?)
 
> > Would be nice to have some more translations... French, Spanish,
> > Italian, Russian (my girl friend can help with that one), Polish,
> > etc.
> 
> I can do the Dutch one.

Great.

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CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 12 10:07:21 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:07:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsoring
References: <1013417687.3c6786d716de4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020211113300.G49147@math.jussieu.fr> <20020212000503.GI28241@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C68E959.EF00394E@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 11, 2002 at 09:54:47AM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > maybe I just forgot about it, but I don't quite remember
> > > having seen anybody mentioning the sponsoring issue.
> > > Could anybody elaborate a bit on this one, please?
> >
> > As said during the december meeting that my company, Nuxeo, could probably
> > give 500 Euros, but it's too early to make a firm commitment.
> 
> Infrae (mine and Kit Blake's company) can put in some euros too. Paul
> Everitt also wrote in before and said Zope Corporation could contribute a
> 'couple of hundred bucks'.
>
> We need some kind of policy though so that sponsors can start sponsoring,
> and know what they'll get back for it. Perhaps sponsors get space for
> a poster presentation of some sort? And of course they get added to some
> list of sponsors we'll display prominently everywhere.

Good idea. Let's mimic what Foretec does/did at the IPC 
conferences: they have different categories of sponsorship
and depending on the category, the logos et al. are made
visible on announcements, the web-site, the conference table,
the badge...

The good thing about having categories is that we provide
"guidelines" for the amount of sponsoring, rather than the
sponsors.

Of course, before determining the amounts, we'll need to
figure out a budget for the event. Does anybody here have
experience with conference budgets ?

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CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Tue Feb 12 10:10:59 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:10:59 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121110010.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 10:26:28AM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > 
> > Seriously, we don't need politics in the announcement. This is
> > not the FSF, it's EuroPython. It is generally understood that 
> > open source is a superset of free software.
> 
> It is understood by me that free software and open source software are
> basically two different ways to name the same kind of software, but
> that people strongly disagree on the best word to use.

I would suggest we delay such wars until after the conference...

-- 
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http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From sf@fermigier.com  Tue Feb 12 10:24:01 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:24:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121110010.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr>; from Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr on Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 11:10:59AM +0100
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121110010.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020212112401.B31910@math.jussieu.fr>

On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 11:10:59AM +0100, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 10:26:28AM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > >=20
> > > Seriously, we don't need politics in the announcement. This is
> > > not the FSF, it's EuroPython. It is generally understood that=20
> > > open source is a superset of free software.
> >=20
> > It is understood by me that free software and open source software ar=
e
> > basically two different ways to name the same kind of software, but
> > that people strongly disagree on the best word to use.
>=20
> I would suggest we delay such wars until after the conference...

Me too. Hence "free and open source software".

	S.

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From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 12 10:27:08 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:27:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <20020211095405.12555.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202110837410.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org> <20020211232935.GA28241@vet.uu.nl> <20020212024414.D29076@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <3C68EDFC.D5679E6E@lemburg.com>

Denis wrote:
> 
> Now, keep in mind the facts :
> 
> 1. Rooms :
> Would I cold your enthousiasm if I send you to the URL :
> http://www.ceme.be/en/sallea.htm
> and that one :
> http://www.ceme.be/en/salleb.htm
> for you having a good idea of the available rooms ?
> (The multi-purpose room would be left for the meals)

Hmm, wouldn't it be better to do catering in the bar/cafeteria ?
That way we can split the multi-purpose room in two and
use it and the auditorium for the three tracks we have per
day.

 
> 2. Time :
> As I told you in a previous mail, we should leave the building before
> 13h00 on the Friday.
> That's why I thought we could have such a grid :
> ---------------------------------------------------------
>              |    AM    |  midday  |    PM   | evening  |
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Wednesday 26 | Conf.    | lunch in | Conf.   | social   |
>              |          | the CEME |         | activity |
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Thursday 27  | Conf.    | lunch in | Conf.   | social   |
>              |          | the CEME |         | activity |
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Friday 28    | Conf.    | lunch  somewhere else followed|
>              |          | by free (openair?) discussions|
> ---------------------------------------------------------

FYI, I put this in the wiki:

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTimetable

To bad that we can't have the Friday afternoon too. Is there
some other place we could move the gathering on that
day ?
 
> 3. Attendence :
> How many people do we expect to have in each category ?
> Developpers
> Users
> Curious
> Business
> Education
> Administration
> ...

Same here:

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceAttendees

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______________________________________________________________________
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From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 12 10:43:47 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:43:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsoring
References: <1013417687.3c6786d716de4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C67E42A.1D53DEF0@lemburg.com> <20020212000539.GJ28241@vet.uu.nl> <E16aW5f-0004rB-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <3C68F1E3.2A43D5D6@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
>=20
> Le Mardi 12 F=E9vrier 2002 01:05, Martijn Faassen a =E9crit :
> > M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > > We'll need to budget this event in order to be able to tell
> > > how much sponsoring we need. Ideal would be to get some EU
> > > funds for the event, but I don't know whether we have any
> > > EU contacts... ?
>=20
> > Nicolas P does.
>=20
> OK we shall have some support though the ASWAD project.
>=20
> Don't know the amount yet. Could hopefully be of the order or 2000 EUR.

That's good news !
=20
> I'll start to see next week if we can find more.
>=20
> Couldn't we start also a contributions/supports/donations page ?

I've added one here:

   http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceSponsors

--=20
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CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 12 10:55:49 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:55:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
References: <3C68D89D.FB37A56F@onera.fr>
Message-ID: <3C68F4B5.65B285DA@lemburg.com>

Marc Poinot wrote:
> 
> How can I invite speakers ?
> 
> I have some contacts, at least with 3 speakers for papers. But I want
> to invite some US speakers and I wonder if some of you has an idea ?
> Or a piece of idea ? Or a beginning of a piece of a bit of a thought ?
> 
> Plane ticket, hotel ?

I suppose this depends solely on the budget we have available.
Can't spend more money than we have ;-)

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______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
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From Juergen Hermann" <jhe@webde-ag.de  Tue Feb 12 11:01:07 2002
From: Juergen Hermann" <jhe@webde-ag.de (Juergen Hermann)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:01:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
In-Reply-To: <3C68F4B5.65B285DA@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <E16aagO-0003IX-00@smtp.web.de>

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 11:55:49 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:

>Can't spend more money than we have ;-)

You're obviously not part of the fun generation! ;)



Ciao, J=FCrgen

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From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 12 11:05:20 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 12:05:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <20020212085459.76941.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C68F6F0.F1A69CAD@lemburg.com>

Tim Couper wrote:
> [on the "Python in Business" track]
>
> Maybe we should
> call the session "My mind's made up; don't confuse me
> with the facts" ...

The fact that we have such a hard time finding the
right wording suggests to me that we need a short
description for each track title which gets mentioned
right alongside with the title itself.

Feel free to edit the track page accordingly:

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTracks
 
> Anyway, looking at practicalities, if this is where we
> want to go, I wonder if we could have a series of
> 10-15 minute talks, say for an afternoon, asking
> presenters to focus on the issues which enabled them
> to succeed in introducing, or reinforcing the use of,
> Python in their organisation, and can follow it with a
> BOF for those who'd like to develop or promote any
> ideas further.

I suppose that's for the track chairman to decide.
In general, I think it's a good concept.

Ok, back to some real work now... :-)

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______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From seb@jamkit.com  Tue Feb 12 11:46:41 2002
From: seb@jamkit.com (seb bacon)
Date: 12 Feb 2002 11:46:41 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <20020212085459.76941.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020212085459.76941.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1013514406.1884.18.camel@bucharin>

On Tue, 2002-02-12 at 08:54, Tim Couper wrote:
> "Suits". While it's unlikely that members of this
> species will appear at a Python conference (it being
> perceived as a techy conference), what's probably
> wanted is a clear presentation of the arguments and
> resources that can be used/available to win hearts and
> minds of such persons.

I think you are correct that it will be mostly techy: I tried to whip up
some excitement with my colleagues yesterday, but there was a distinct
lack of interest because they suspected it would be a 'geekfest'. 
(Honestly, I don't know what's wrong with some people ;-)

However, it is important to understand the composition of the business
community.  I think an emphasis on 'suits' (Dilbertesque business
managers?) gives prominence to large companies at the cost of small to
medium sized businesses (SMEs), which after all comprise the vast
majority of businesses (more than 90% in the UK, AFAIK).  In such
companies, the distinction between Techy and Suit is not so strong. 
Certainly at my company we all wear several hats.

WRT Zope in particular, I am sure that there are many SMEs who have
*already* based their offering largely or exclusively on Zope and
python.  For people like this, the decision has already been made, and
there's a lot more to talk about: how to get python/zope past *clients*,
how to make OSS work in a commercial context, etc. 

In summary,  I would persoanlly be less interested in 'getting python
past the suits' and more interested in 'making a python business work'. 
However, I may be in a minority?

seb





From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 12 12:13:24 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 13:13:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <20020212085459.76941.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com> <1013514406.1884.18.camel@bucharin>
Message-ID: <3C6906E4.2115998A@lemburg.com>

seb bacon wrote:
> 
> In summary,  I would persoanlly be less interested in 'getting python
> past the suits' and more interested in 'making a python business work'.
> However, I may be in a minority?

Not at all. 

The track should cover both aspects:
* getting Python accepted in projects
* building business models around Python

That's where the motivation for the track came from for me at 
least, since eGenix.com is busy in both fields.

-- 
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CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From tim@2wave.net  Tue Feb 12 14:26:03 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 14:26:03 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <3C6906E4.2115998A@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020212142603.23605.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com>

 --- "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com> wrote: > seb
bacon wrote:
> > 
> > In summary,  I would persoanlly be less interested
> in 'getting python
> > past the suits' and more interested in 'making a
> python business work'.
> > However, I may be in a minority?
> 
> Not at all. 
> 
> The track should cover both aspects:
> * getting Python accepted in projects
> * building business models around Python

I concur completely. And I think the Lightning
talk/BOF model will permit those interested only in
one of the aspects to feel included.

> 
> That's where the motivation for the track came from
> for me at 
> least, since eGenix.com is busy in both fields.
> 
is this subtle advertising on the mailing list? :-)

Tim

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From xavier@defrang.com  Tue Feb 12 14:39:17 2002
From: xavier@defrang.com (Xavier Defrang)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 15:39:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
Message-ID: <3C692915.5B8C2D9A@defrang.com>

Tim Couper wrote:

> > The track should cover both aspects:
> > * getting Python accepted in projects

With the increasing importance of Java and its frameworks in large 
distributed projects, it would be interresting to talk about Jython 
and the possibilities of extension, scripting and prototyping offered 
by this implementation.

My 2 eurocents...
 
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From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 12 15:04:59 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:04:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
References: <20020212142603.23605.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C692F1B.3174B89C@lemburg.com>

Tim Couper wrote:
> 
> > The track should cover both aspects:
> > * getting Python accepted in projects
> > * building business models around Python
> 
> I concur completely. And I think the Lightning
> talk/BOF model will permit those interested only in
> one of the aspects to feel included.

Right.
 
> >
> > That's where the motivation for the track came from
> > for me at
> > least, since eGenix.com is busy in both fields.
> >
> is this subtle advertising on the mailing list? :-)

Not really... I only have to convince myself that going to
the conference and spending time on organizing it pays off.
It did at the Bordeaux Conference last year and hope that 
it does again at EuroPython 2002.

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CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From lozinski@openstepnews.com  Tue Feb 12 17:27:02 2002
From: lozinski@openstepnews.com (Christopher Lozinski)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:27:02 -0800
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Conference
References: <E16aacP-0002wZ-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <3C695066.1308E6A5@openstepnews.com>

I hope that there will be space for exhibitors.

I run python.jobmart.com, and exhibited at the Python10 conference, and I hope that it
will be possible to exhibit at the EuroPython Conference.

Regards
Christopher Lozinski
lozinski@jobmart.com



From someone@arbitrary.org  Tue Feb 12 17:35:37 2002
From: someone@arbitrary.org (Joseph Santaniello)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 09:35:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <20020212085459.76941.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202120915170.18495-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org>

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002 at 08:54, Tim Couper wrote:

> OK. So we're agreed broadly about the scope. However,
> we do need to get the right topic title, 'cos if we're
> confused, it'll be 10x worse for attendees!

Right! So what do we call it?

> 
> "Suits". While it's unlikely that members of this
> species will appear at a Python conference (it being
> perceived as a techy conference), what's probably

Hey, I'm coming! ;-) But seriously, is it being percieved as a techy 
conference? I'm not saying that's a good or a bad thing, but I guess we 
should have a good idea of the demographic of the expected group.

> wanted is a clear presentation of the arguments and
> resources that can be used/available to win hearts and
> minds of such persons. This is one of the key thoughts
> behind the Python and Business track (perhaps
> "Business" is misleading). With that as a goal, I
> think we need case studies based on "this is the
> organisation and its mindset, here's what we did and
> here's how we changed it (or failed to change it and
> why)". Clearly this is applicable to anyone who's
> trying to use python in their work - either in the
> commercial or scientific domains. I'm unsure how much
> interest/overlap there is between these 2 domains,
> insofar as the "suit" problems being addressed overlap
> - although one does need arguments for both managerial
> "Suits" and technical "Prima Donnas". Maybe we should
> call the session "My mind's made up; don't confuse me
> with the facts" ...
> 
> Anyway, looking at practicalities, if this is where we
> want to go, I wonder if we could have a series of
> 10-15 minute talks, say for an afternoon, asking
> presenters to focus on the issues which enabled them
> to succeed in introducing, or reinforcing the use of,
> Python in their organisation, and can follow it with a
> BOF for those who'd like to develop or promote any 
> ideas further. 

I think that's a good approach. Several 15 minute presentations would
probably be more effective than one long presentation. Then as you say a
BOF since this issue is probably well suited to free-form discussions.

Add my 2 cents (or 2.2742 eurocents...) to that sentiment.

Joseph

PS: Actually some Monty-Python-esque tounge-in-cheek title like "My mind's
made up; don't confuse me with the facts" if we get it just right may do a
better job of conveying what we are trying to say than some potentially
confusing "positive" title. 

> 
> Just my 2 (euro)cents
> 
> Tim
> 
> 
> --- Joseph Santaniello <someone@arbitrary.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 at 20:14, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > 
> > > Joseph Santaniello wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Hello All,
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps 'Python in The Real World' is just too
> > general a topic. Maybe
> > > > something like 'Python for solving Real World
> > Problems' which has
> > > > scientific issues, technical discussions, etc,
> > and examples of real world
> > > > solutions that have been implemented in Python,
> > and another track that
> > > > focuses on the more non-technical, or less
> > specific aspects of Python in
> > > > practice. Things like all the business,
> > cultural, and development model
> > > > stuff.
> > > 
> > > Nothing against scientific applications, but what
> > we Tim and I
> > > originally had in mind was a session where we
> > could discuss
> > > business models around Python, strategies for
> > convincing
> > > decision makers about the values of using Python
> > in projects,
> > > total cost of ownership w/r to Python and Python
> > applications,
> > > etc.
> > > 
> > > In that sense "the Real World" meant: Python in
> > business
> > > environments.
> > > 
> > > So perhaps we need two tracks:
> > > 
> > > * Python in Business
> > > * Python in Science
> > 
> > 
> > By Python in Business do you mean using Python to
> > solve business problems 
> > (figuring out finance charges or something) or the
> > business of using 
> > Python and getting it to be accepted, etc.
> > 
> > If we think of it as how Python can be used to
> > figure out business 
> > problems, it is quite similar to scientific problems
> > (or any other for 
> > that matter) and I think perhaps it would be
> > suitable to have a track 
> > filled with all sorts of "real world" applications
> > of Python, be they 
> > business, scientific, or whatever.
> > 
> > But I do agree that there should be a track
> > specifically for the "suits" 
> > which discusses among other things the
> > non-programming specific aspects of 
> > Python. Things like it's overall benefits, how it
> > works well as a 
> > modelling language, how it is quick to develop with,
> > how it's easy to 
> > read and thus maintanable, and things about how to
> > convince 
> > non-technical sceptics that is is a viable
> > alternative to other more 
> > well-know technologies, etc.
> > 
> > I think we are sort of saying the same thing.
> > 
> > Joseph
> >  
> 
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From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 18:53:05 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 19:53:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference Extra-curricular activities?
In-Reply-To: <3C68E512.22C8FB73@lemburg.com>
References: <3C683181.42698F80@lemburg.com> <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202111320500.26256-100000@harmony.arbitrary.org> <20020211233453.GB28241@vet.uu.nl> <3C68E512.22C8FB73@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020212185305.GA31958@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> In summary, we'll need 
> 
> * BOFs (small get-together-like discussion rounds with a
>   BOF manager; these should be planned shortly before the conference),
> 
> and
> 
> * Lightning Talks (very short presentations on various subjects, 
>   to be announced at the conference), 

> Since we can't really plan them now, I suggest to just integrate
> these into the time table somewhere.

I've put them on a wiki page. :)

> I'm not sure whether we can start creating a time table just yet,
> though :-)

I think it's too early. First we need to hunt for people who are willing
to give a talk, or are willing to organize a special topic area. Then
once we've got a list of talks, we can organize a time table and tracks
around it.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 19:11:48 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:11:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121037070.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <3C68181A.C6916CC8@lemburg.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121037070.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020212191148.GB31958@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> > So perhaps we need two tracks:
> > 
> > * Python in Business
> > * Python in Science
> 
> As Python is largely used in science, I think it would be good to provide
> a gathering place for all those who use it that way. As someone already
> proposed, I think Konrad Hinsen (hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr) would be a nice
> person to organize the track.

I've just sent a mail to Konrad.

> If he doesn't want to, I am willing to do it, but be aware that Logilab
> offers professional training for Python+Science. That would help me to set
> up the track as we already have many contacts, but I wouldn't want people
> to think that I am doing it only out of interest.

Well, one reason we have conferences is to gain more business, so that isn't
a big problem.

> One solution would be for both of us to organize it together.

Sure, get together with him and try to work something out.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 19:14:56 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:14:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <E16aW72-0004st-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <E16ZaZr-0007Lp-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111212310.11594-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020211234326.GD28241@vet.uu.nl> <E16aW72-0004st-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020212191456.GC31958@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> [I wrote:]
> > Once you stop to think about it, it's amazing how much cool Python
> > development actually happens right here in Europe.
> 
> this is very true and needs to be emphasized.

Perhaps we need some cheerleading keynote about Python in Europe.. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 19:16:31 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:16:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121110010.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121110010.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020212191631.GD31958@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
[free versus open debate]
> I would suggest we delay such wars until after the conference...

During the conference! We could divide ourselves into two teams and
have a battle friday afternoon! :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 19:23:54 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:23:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C68E6CC.D5D2B0F8@lemburg.com>
References: <20020211153809.A74692@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202111551220.598-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020211164755.D74692@math.jussieu.fr> <3C67EC1A.E8FB1A26@lemburg.com> <20020211235241.GF28241@vet.uu.nl> <3C68E6CC.D5D2B0F8@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020212192354.GF31958@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > If this is a political issue I for one am quite willing to drop
> > the 'and Zope' from the title, however.
> 
> I don't have an issue with it, but the current press release
> text puts more emphasis on Zope than on Python and that's
> not what I had expected from the first *Python* conference
> in Europe (after many many years).

I've tried hard to de-empathize Zope from the press release, but 
I failed. :)

> The wiki has the current version and we put a deadline on the text:
> next friday. After that we'll need up-to-date translations and can
> then start pushing the release out the door.

We seem to have two english versions; one on the main page and
one in a sub page. Confusing. I presume the one on the main press
release page is the real one..

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 19:25:11 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:25:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <3C68E817.E5992511@lemburg.com>
References: <20020211092250.8628.qmail@web14505.mail.yahoo.com> <1013437423.3c67d3ef3bba4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C67E5CC.BC9ABC5F@lemburg.com> <20020211235948.GH28241@vet.uu.nl> <3C68E817.E5992511@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020212192511.GG31958@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Good idea... (how do you add pages to a wiki ?)

MultiCapitalize a word. Then that'll get a question mark. Click on that,
edit the page, and you've got a new page.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 19:27:25 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:27:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsoring
In-Reply-To: <3C68E959.EF00394E@lemburg.com>
References: <1013417687.3c6786d716de4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020211113300.G49147@math.jussieu.fr> <20020212000503.GI28241@vet.uu.nl> <3C68E959.EF00394E@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020212192725.GH31958@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
[snip stuff on conference categories, sounds good]
> Of course, before determining the amounts, we'll need to
> figure out a budget for the event. Does anybody here have
> experience with conference budgets ?

Not me. We did do some very preliminary calculations at the 
Belgium meeting in december. Can perhaps Denis or whomever has the
note post all the stuff we created then into the wiki?

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 19:30:37 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:30:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] ConferenceOrganizers page added
In-Reply-To: <1013498389.3c68c21553e49@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <1013498389.3c68c21553e49@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020212193037.GI31958@vet.uu.nl>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> as I'm probably not the only one getting increasingly confused
> about the matter, I added a ConferenceOrganizers page to the
> Wiki with three initial names on it that were among the latest
> in my mailbox:
> 
>   http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceOrganizers
> 
> I hope, everybody will write a concise paragraph sooner or 
> later about his or her role(s) during that conference prepara-
> tion. And I hope this overview will be useful for all others, but 
> also for these people themselves! ;-)

That's a good idea. I wrote a little paragraph (incomplete) for Denis,
and one for me as well. Also incomplete, as I'm not entirely sure what 
my official role is. I did sort of kick everything into motion.. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 19:32:53 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:32:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
In-Reply-To: <20020212101625.B63572@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <3C68D89D.FB37A56F@onera.fr> <20020212095941.A63572@math.jussieu.fr> <3C68DA56.F73C62DC@onera.fr> <20020212101625.B63572@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <20020212193253.GJ31958@vet.uu.nl>

Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> Right. But I think the names of people to contact should be decided by
> the conference commitee (of which, as I stated in Charleroi in december,
> I'm willing to take part) beforehand.

We had a preliminary list of who did what in the notes then. We really
need to move those notes into the wiki. I know you had notes of your
own, could you move those into the wiki as well? And Denis had notes
on his computer..

I forget what I was in the notes. I was in the general committee, and I
believe I volunteered for the group doing the program. 

We need to semi-formalize who gets to make decisions about money pretty
soon, though.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 12 19:20:58 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 20:20:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <20020212112401.B31910@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121110010.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020212112401.B31910@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <20020212192058.GE31958@vet.uu.nl>

Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> Me too. Hence "free and open source software".

What line in the press release are we talking about? 

Regards,

Martijn



From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Tue Feb 12 22:07:20 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:07:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] *kof* caugh... embarassing
Message-ID: <019801c1b412$69c47be0$358d84d5@skullsplitter>

Blushing... Embarassing...
What an amatuer I am.... I've having amnesia....
Sorry, all just to say that I forgot my own password of the europython site
already... so, I'll wait untill a good person sends me a new dummy entry...


Tom.




From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Tue Feb 12 22:30:32 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:30:32 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] ProgrammingContest
Message-ID: <E16alRY-0007IM-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Following on my proposal, I have created a page

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ProgrammingContest

we still need for that :

1/ a email address programming-contest@europython.org
2/ prizes (cash, Monty Python videotapes and books)
3/ judges

4/ participants

As usual, any suggestion, comment , help ... is welcome

Best regards

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Tue Feb 12 22:33:45 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:33:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsoring
In-Reply-To: <20020212192725.GH31958@vet.uu.nl>
References: <1013417687.3c6786d716de4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020211113300.G49147@math.jussieu.fr> <20020212000503.GI28241@vet.uu.nl> <3C68E959.EF00394E@lemburg.com> <20020212192725.GH31958@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020212233345.A5896@carolo.net>

Le Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 08:27:25PM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> 
> Not me. We did do some very preliminary calculations at the 
> Belgium meeting in december. Can perhaps Denis or whomever has the
> note post all the stuff we created then into the wiki?

I uploaded the notes in the wiki 
http://www.europython.org/wiki/DecemberPreMeeting

It was not structured-text, so the presentation is not very good.
I don't feel like editing it now... :-)

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Tue Feb 12 22:34:21 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:34:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <20020212191148.GB31958@vet.uu.nl>
References: <3C68181A.C6916CC8@lemburg.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121037070.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020212191148.GB31958@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <E16alVG-0007KK-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Mardi 12 F=E9vrier 2002 20:11, Martijn Faassen a =E9crit :

> > If he doesn't want to, I am willing to do it, but be aware that Logil=
ab
> > offers professional training for Python+Science. That would help me t=
o
> > set up the track as we already have many contacts, but I wouldn't wan=
t
> > people to think that I am doing it only out of interest.
>
> Well, one reason we have conferences is to gain more business, so that
> isn't a big problem.

=2E.. and generate interest in Python and Zope, for example in schools an=
d any=20
other business.

I fully agree with Martijn comment

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Tue Feb 12 22:39:46 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:39:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
In-Reply-To: <20020212101625.B63572@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <3C68D89D.FB37A56F@onera.fr> <3C68DA56.F73C62DC@onera.fr> <20020212101625.B63572@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <E16alaV-0007lE-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Mardi 12 F=E9vrier 2002 10:16, Stefane Fermigier a =E9crit :

To begin with,

Could the people on this list suggest to any person who could be interest=
ed=20
to prepare something to submit to the request for paper we shall send ver=
y=20
soon ?

If people don not come spontaneously, at least we will have something alr=
eady=20
very interesting ... even if a little pushed.

Who from the list is volunteering to become a member of the paper selecti=
on=20
commitee ?

As stated by Stefane, I think the basic "conference commitee"  was propos=
ed=20
in Charleroi in December. Any other proposal / suggestion is welcome thou=
gh.

Thanks,

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Tue Feb 12 22:44:55 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 23:44:55 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Python tracks/topics
In-Reply-To: <3C692F1B.3174B89C@lemburg.com>
References: <20020212142603.23605.qmail@web14506.mail.yahoo.com> <3C692F1B.3174B89C@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <E16alfU-0007vW-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

> > > The track should cover both aspects:
> > > * getting Python accepted in projects
> > > * building business models around Python
> >
> > I concur completely. And I think the Lightning
> > talk/BOF model will permit those interested only in
> > one of the aspects to feel included.

I do think this too. In my position, I publish request for proposals.=20

What I want is : answer from commercial companies when I ask for=20
developpement and support.=20

My purpose with the "business track" (or "python for suits" or anything) =
is=20
to let the people who may be influential in the decisions (often they are=
=20
nearly or old techies) that Python/Zope can save their day.

 ... and is a very good solution

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Tue Feb 12 23:13:15 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:13:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <20020212112401.B31910@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121110010.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020212112401.B31910@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <E16am6t-0001rw-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Sorry MAL. I do not want this point  to become a difference between us.

> > > It is understood by me that free software and open source software =
are
> > > basically two different ways to name the same kind of software, but
> > > that people strongly disagree on the best word to use.

This is also the way for me, but only that I recently realised that, in m=
any=20
situation, it just depends on the public.

For me free software relates to values and open source to pragmatism.=20

AS the first is more important for me than the latter, I tend more and mo=
re=20
to speak about free software, but I do use the other word with people who=
=20
have other evaluation (especially in a business environement)

> > I would suggest we delay such wars until after the conference...

OK I won't come with the point anymore.

> Me too. Hence "free and open source software".

Agree. THis formulation if good for me.

Regards,

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Tue Feb 12 23:08:08 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:08:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
References: <3C68D89D.FB37A56F@onera.fr> <3C68DA56.F73C62DC@onera.fr> <20020212101625.B63572@math.jussieu.fr> <E16alaV-0007lE-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <01f801c1b41a$24462250$358d84d5@skullsplitter>

As I told before to Martijn,
I'm willing to help on the paper selection concerning Zope issues...

Tom.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicolas Pettiaux" <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org>
To: <europython@python.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 11:39 PM
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Invited speakers


Le Mardi 12 Février 2002 10:16, Stefane Fermigier a écrit :

To begin with,

Could the people on this list suggest to any person who could be interested
to prepare something to submit to the request for paper we shall send very
soon ?

If people don not come spontaneously, at least we will have something
already
very interesting ... even if a little pushed.

Who from the list is volunteering to become a member of the paper selection
commitee ?

As stated by Stefane, I think the basic "conference commitee"  was proposed
in Charleroi in December. Any other proposal / suggestion is welcome though.

Thanks,

Nicolas

--
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du Pérou 29
B-1000 Brussels

_______________________________________________
EuroPython mailing list
EuroPython@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Tue Feb 12 23:41:10 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:41:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython on python.org
Message-ID: <E16amXv-0002y9-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Dear all,

there is a line on www.python.org stating that there is the europyhton=20
conference an dlinking to the web site.

Would someone quickly ack a nicer page to welcome the visitors ? It is a =
bit=20
cheap righ now.

Thanks,

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Tue Feb 12 23:46:45 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:46:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython on python.org
References: <E16amXv-0002y9-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <029001c1b41f$8917f8c0$358d84d5@skullsplitter>

I'm trying to work on it, right now. The only problem is that I can't get
the versions working...
so now I'm going to work on a page and later on switch it to index_html

Tom.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicolas Pettiaux" <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org>
To: <europython@python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:41 AM
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython on python.org


Dear all,

there is a line on www.python.org stating that there is the europyhton
conference an dlinking to the web site.

Would someone quickly ack a nicer page to welcome the visitors ? It is a bit
cheap righ now.

Thanks,

Nicolas
--
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du Pérou 29
B-1000 Brussels

_______________________________________________
EuroPython mailing list
EuroPython@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython





From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Tue Feb 12 23:53:10 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:53:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
In-Reply-To: <20020212193253.GJ31958@vet.uu.nl>
References: <3C68D89D.FB37A56F@onera.fr> <20020212095941.A63572@math.jussieu.fr> <3C68DA56.F73C62DC@onera.fr> <20020212101625.B63572@math.jussieu.fr> <20020212193253.GJ31958@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020213005310.B5896@carolo.net>

Le Tue, Feb 12, 2002 at 08:32:53PM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> We had a preliminary list of who did what in the notes then. We really
> need to move those notes into the wiki. I know you had notes of your
> own, could you move those into the wiki as well? And Denis had notes
> on his computer..

http://www.europython.org/wiki/DecemberPreMeeting

> I forget what I was in the notes. I was in the general committee, and I
> believe I volunteered for the group doing the program. 

You did. :-)

> We need to semi-formalize who gets to make decisions about money pretty
> soon, though.

General committee ?

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From tom.deprez@village.uunet.be  Wed Feb 13 00:34:22 2002
From: tom.deprez@village.uunet.be (Tom Deprez)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 01:34:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython on python.org
References: <E16amXv-0002y9-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <029001c1b41f$8917f8c0$358d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <02ca01c1b426$2fbc21a0$358d84d5@skullsplitter>

ok, did some small change, but this is really a dummy page. And it still
looks cheap...

I should make up the ZPT templates, before going further... sighh, I'm not
that fond of ZPT, I'm more used to DTML...anyway I need to stop.
I'll work on this further on thursday, since tomorrow I've other
obligations.
If other want to work on it, ... then be my guest!

Regards, Tom.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com>
To: <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org>; <europython@python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:46 AM
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Europython on python.org


I'm trying to work on it, right now. The only problem is that I can't get
the versions working...
so now I'm going to work on a page and later on switch it to index_html

Tom.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicolas Pettiaux" <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org>
To: <europython@python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 12:41 AM
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython on python.org


Dear all,

there is a line on www.python.org stating that there is the europyhton
conference an dlinking to the web site.

Would someone quickly ack a nicer page to welcome the visitors ? It is a bit
cheap righ now.

Thanks,

Nicolas
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From Alexandre.Fayolle@logilab.fr  Wed Feb 13 08:40:37 2002
From: Alexandre.Fayolle@logilab.fr (Alexandre Fayolle)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 09:40:37 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] ProgrammingContest
In-Reply-To: <E16alRY-0007IM-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202130930480.5894-100000@sagittarius.logilab.fr>

On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:

> http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ProgrammingContest

Sorry to raise the issue of licensing once more, but I think the words you
used are slightly confusing.

 * "we cannot accept entries that require commercial software or other
software that is not provided as free software or under GPL." 
  -> This seems to imply that GPLed software is not free software.

 * "The participants agree that their application free software, protected
by the GPL licence."
  -> This is python we're talking about, and the GPL is not the default
licence in the community, even if it is commonly used. I think imposing
the GPL, rather than, for instance, the Python Licence, is an error. 


There's nothing about the maximium number of submission that an individual
can make. 

Alexandre Fayolle
-- 
LOGILAB, Paris (France).
http://www.logilab.com   http://www.logilab.fr  http://www.logilab.org
Narval, the first software agent available as free software (GPL).



From fermigier@clara1.tuxeon.com  Wed Feb 13 09:05:15 2002
From: fermigier@clara1.tuxeon.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:05:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] ProgrammingContest
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202130930480.5894-100000@sagittarius.logilab.fr>; from Alexandre.Fayolle@logilab.fr on Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 09:40:37AM +0100
References: <E16alRY-0007IM-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202130930480.5894-100000@sagittarius.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020213100515.A19137@clara1.tuxeon.com>

On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 09:40:37AM +0100, Alexandre Fayolle wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2002, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> 
> > http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ProgrammingContest
> 
> Sorry to raise the issue of licensing once more, but I think the words you
> used are slightly confusing.
> 
>  * "we cannot accept entries that require commercial software or other
> software that is not provided as free software or under GPL." 
>   -> This seems to imply that GPLed software is not free software.
> 
>  * "The participants agree that their application free software, protected
> by the GPL licence."
>   -> This is python we're talking about, and the GPL is not the default
> licence in the community, even if it is commonly used. I think imposing
> the GPL, rather than, for instance, the Python Licence, is an error. 

Right. Any license stamped as free software by the FSF and Open Source by
the OSI should do.

	S.



From all@123piano.com  Wed Feb 13 09:25:25 2002
From: all@123piano.com (Philippe Jadin)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 10:25:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Introduction
Message-ID: <3C6A3105.8080906@123piano.com>

Hello,

As a responsible belgian citizen, I had to subscribe to this mailing 
list, so I did :)

I'm a quite active zope developer/designer/wathever that means. I work 
mainly the freelance way, and I have quite some little success with this 
cool tool.

So,in short, I can contribute to do some layouts for the europython 
website if it helps. I have a friend which is interested as well (he is 
a graphic designer, and we often work together on project.


A little batleplan maybe ? :

1. define a sitemap
2. create a nice template
3. create some simple logic to have navbars, etc... (or all will be done 
with wiki? In this case, how is wiki "skinable"?)

If you need a template, will it be dtml or zpt? Is there already a 
project for this?

hth,

Philippe Jadin

123piano.com

02/280.40.14
60, rue du cornet
1040 Etterbeek (Bruxelles)
Belgique



From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 13 10:16:04 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:16:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Exhibitors at the EuroPython Conference
References: <E16aacP-0002wZ-00@mail.python.org> <3C695066.1308E6A5@openstepnews.com>
Message-ID: <3C6A3CE4.B620E986@lemburg.com>

Christopher Lozinski wrote:
> 
> I hope that there will be space for exhibitors.
> 
> I run python.jobmart.com, and exhibited at the Python10 conference, and I hope that it
> will be possible to exhibit at the EuroPython Conference.

We will look into this. What kind of exhibit do you have in mind 
(a booth, just posters ?).

FYI, I've create a preliminary info page at:

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceExhibitors

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 13 10:33:37 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:33:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Updated press release
Message-ID: <3C6A4101.5B9F5085@lemburg.com>

I've updated the press release a bit and added a blurb about Jython.

Please review.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Wed Feb 13 11:16:15 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 12:16:15 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] ProgrammingContest
In-Reply-To: <E16alRY-0007IM-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202131211480.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Following on my proposal, I have created a page
> 
> http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ProgrammingContest
>
> 3/ judges

I think my friend Alexandre.Fayolle@logilab.fr is a good candidate.

Ask the PyXML and 4Suite folks ;-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Wed Feb 13 12:04:06 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 13:04:06 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
In-Reply-To: <E16alaV-0007lE-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202131252140.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Who from the list is volunteering to become a member of the paper selection 
> commitee ?

Alexandre.Fayolle@logilab.fr and/or I would be interested.

I would say the more the better, even for a small number of papers, as
more reviewers means more feedback and more chances to improve the
paper/talk before presenting it. Maybe ten to fifteen people ?

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)




From lac@strakt.com  Wed Feb 13 13:57:59 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:57:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: Message from Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org>
 of "Wed, 13 Feb 2002 00:13:15 +0100." <E16am6t-0001rw-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121110010.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020212112401.B31910@math.jussieu.fr>  <E16am6t-0001rw-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <200202131357.g1DDvxGo031006@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

I tried the formulation 'free and open source software' for a conference
I organised.  It bombed.  Everybody thought I meant 'free/open source
software, that ALSO COST NO MONEY'.  After all, if I did not mean
'COST NO MONEY' then either free, or open source, would be enough.

There are no easy answers here.  I have personally moved to using
Open Source exclusively, and let the unthinking RMS-acolytes hate me,
but that may not be an option for you.

Just to warn you that I tried it your way and it failed miserably.

Laura Creighton



From aleax@aleax.it  Wed Feb 13 14:15:38 2002
From: aleax@aleax.it (Alex Martelli)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:15:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] paper selection committee
Message-ID: <E16b0GU-0001jg-00@mail.python.org>

"Nicolas Pettiaux" <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org> wrote:
	...
"""
Who from the list is volunteering to become a member of the paper selection
commitee ?
"""
I've just joined the list (having barely recovered from IPC10:-), but I'm 
available to referee/review papers if needed (assuming that doesn't
create a conflict of interest with _submitting_ papers, right?).


Alex


From martin@v.loewis.de  Wed Feb 13 14:37:29 2002
From: martin@v.loewis.de (Martin v. Loewis)
Date: 13 Feb 2002 15:37:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] paper selection committee
In-Reply-To: <E16b0GU-0001jg-00@mail.python.org>
References: <E16b0GU-0001jg-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <m37kphjvme.fsf@mira.informatik.hu-berlin.de>

Alex Martelli <aleax@aleax.it> writes:

> I've just joined the list (having barely recovered from IPC10:-), but I'm 
> available to referee/review papers if needed (assuming that doesn't
> create a conflict of interest with _submitting_ papers, right?).

Certainly not; it was the same on IPC.

Regards,
Martin


From aleax@aleax.it  Wed Feb 13 14:46:54 2002
From: aleax@aleax.it (Alex Martelli)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 15:46:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] paper selection committee
In-Reply-To: <m37kphjvme.fsf@mira.informatik.hu-berlin.de>
References: <E16b0GU-0001jg-00@mail.python.org> <m37kphjvme.fsf@mira.informatik.hu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <E16b0gT-0003y1-00@mail.python.org>

On Wednesday 13 February 2002 03:37 pm, Martin v. Loewis wrote:
> Alex Martelli <aleax@aleax.it> writes:
> > I've just joined the list (having barely recovered from IPC10:-), but I'm
> > available to referee/review papers if needed (assuming that doesn't
> > create a conflict of interest with _submitting_ papers, right?).
>
> Certainly not; it was the same on IPC.

So it was, just double-checking because my selfish interest to present
at EP is even higher than my impulse to help EP's papers' quality:-).
Besides, "it never hurts to state one's assumptions out loud"...


Alex


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 15:03:33 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:03:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
In-Reply-To: <E16alaV-0007lE-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <3C68D89D.FB37A56F@onera.fr> <3C68DA56.F73C62DC@onera.fr> <20020212101625.B63572@math.jussieu.fr> <E16alaV-0007lE-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020213150333.GA4101@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> Le Mardi 12 F?vrier 2002 10:16, Stefane Fermigier a ?crit :
> 
> To begin with,
> 
> Could the people on this list suggest to any person who could be interested 
> to prepare something to submit to the request for paper we shall send very 
> soon ?

Parse error. Could you rephrase this? I don't understand. :)

> If people don not come spontaneously, at least we will have something already 
> very interesting ... even if a little pushed.

People have already contacted me spontaneously, and I've noticed a very
tiny amount of pushing can also work wonders. There's a huge amount of people
who could do very interesting presentations that I could mail.

> Who from the list is volunteering to become a member of the paper selection 
> commitee ?

I was on the program commitee already, as far as I was aware. Is this the same
as the paper selection commitee? Anyway, I'm volunteering to keep track of
all the program/paper issues, though I hope I won't be the only one. I'd like
to start appointing specific people as part of specific subgroups soon.
[note that I'm assuming a leadership role here and I won't want to ursurp
anything, so people should speak up if they object]

> As stated by Stefane, I think the basic "conference commitee"  was proposed 
> in Charleroi in December. Any other proposal / suggestion is welcome though.

Of course we can still shuffle the main commitee and add people who are
active/interested in helping. We should treat this as an open source project
in the sense that whoever takes responsibility can get responsibility. :) 

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 15:09:37 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:09:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython on python.org
In-Reply-To: <E16amXv-0002y9-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <E16amXv-0002y9-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020213150937.GB4101@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> there is a line on www.python.org stating that there is the europyhton 
> conference an dlinking to the web site.

That's because I asked Guido to add a line on that in my boundless enthusiasm.
I should've waited a bit until we had a nicer page..

> Would someone quickly ack a nicer page to welcome the visitors ? It is a bit 
> cheap righ now.

Tom seems to have taken care of the worst bits of my 'web design' already. 
Thanks Tom!

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 15:10:28 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:10:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Invited speakers
In-Reply-To: <20020213005310.B5896@carolo.net>
References: <3C68D89D.FB37A56F@onera.fr> <20020212095941.A63572@math.jussieu.fr> <3C68DA56.F73C62DC@onera.fr> <20020212101625.B63572@math.jussieu.fr> <20020212193253.GJ31958@vet.uu.nl> <20020213005310.B5896@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <20020213151028.GC4101@vet.uu.nl>

Denis wrote:
> > We need to semi-formalize who gets to make decisions about money pretty
> > soon, though.
> 
> General committee ?

That makes sense. Now we need to formalize who's in there. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 15:26:27 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:26:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython on python.org
In-Reply-To: <02ca01c1b426$2fbc21a0$358d84d5@skullsplitter>
References: <E16amXv-0002y9-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <029001c1b41f$8917f8c0$358d84d5@skullsplitter> <02ca01c1b426$2fbc21a0$358d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <20020213152627.GD4101@vet.uu.nl>

Tom Deprez wrote:
> ok, did some small change, but this is really a dummy page. And it still
> looks cheap...
> 
> I should make up the ZPT templates, before going further... sighh, I'm not
> that fond of ZPT, I'm more used to DTML...anyway I need to stop.

It looks a whole lot better already. And DTML is fine with me, if you like
it better. Let's not any technical roadblocks stop us!

> I'll work on this further on thursday, since tomorrow I've other
> obligations.
> If other want to work on it, ... then be my guest!

Okay, would everybody who wants to be in the web team reply in this thread?
This is the team that does web design and infrastructure. Tom is in there
already, and Ivo van der Wijk at Amaze is in it also defacto, as he manages
that server. I can help with some stuff (forms, some python scripts) if
necessary, but don't ask me to do HTML. :)

Note that the web team won't have to worry about the content; that'll be
taken care of by other groups (or all of us, through the wiki).

I'd just like to get a list of people we can talk to concerning the website.
I'll add something to the wiki.

Hm, see followup mail about teams I'll be sending.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 15:31:57 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:31:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] organizing 'teams'
Message-ID: <20020213153157.GE4101@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

I've added a page to the wiki here:

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTeams

and I've added my own name to the teams I seem to be in. Please do add
your name and email address to the appropriate teams where you think you
can help most. I've only added my own name to anything. :)

Note that the list of teams isn't complete. Under ProgramCommittee way
may need sub pages for the particular parts of the program.

This way we know who to take to to get what accomplished.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 15:35:28 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:35:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Introduction
In-Reply-To: <3C6A3105.8080906@123piano.com>
References: <3C6A3105.8080906@123piano.com>
Message-ID: <20020213153528.GF4101@vet.uu.nl>

Philippe Jadin wrote:
[snip]
> So,in short, I can contribute to do some layouts for the europython 
> website if it helps. I have a friend which is interested as well (he is 
> a graphic designer, and we often work together on project.

Okay, please add yourself and info on what you can do to this wiki
page (and add your friend too :):

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/WebTeam

and mail me or Tom Deprez to get a Zope login. Note that soon I won't
be the person to mail for a Zope login, I'm only facilitating the
web team, but everybody else can be in charge and do the real work. :)

Thanks for your help!

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 15:37:55 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:37:55 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <200202131357.g1DDvxGo031006@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121110010.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020212112401.B31910@math.jussieu.fr> <E16am6t-0001rw-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <200202131357.g1DDvxGo031006@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020213153755.GG4101@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
[snip more suggestions on free/open source]

Hey Laura!

Glad to see you here.

Regards,

Martijn



From tismer@tismer.com  Wed Feb 13 15:48:41 2002
From: tismer@tismer.com (Christian Tismer)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:48:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] A talk about Stackless?
Message-ID: <3C6A8AD9.2040302@tismer.com>

Hi Europythoneers,

I'm at the moment very busy to get my completely new
Stackless implementation to fly.
I would like to give a talk at Europython.
It might be a paper, or maybe a discussion, for sure
there will be a presentation.

Is there interest in this, and what shape is preferred?

ciao - chris
-- 
Christian Tismer             :^)   <mailto:tismer@tismer.com>
Mission Impossible 5oftware  :     Have a break! Take a ride on Python's
Kaunstr. 26                  :    *Starship* http://starship.python.net/
14163 Berlin                 :     PGP key -> http://wwwkeys.pgp.net/
PGP Fingerprint       E182 71C7 1A9D 66E9 9D15  D3CC D4D7 93E2 1FAE F6DF
      where do you want to jump today?   http://www.stackless.com/




From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 15:55:03 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:55:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Free/Open source issue
Message-ID: <20020213155503.GA4234@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

The free versus open source issue keeps cropping up. I'd like to soon make
a decision on this (speaking for the General Committee :) so we can get
rid of the distraction once and for all.

I've however been unable to find the phrase where some people want to
say 'free/open source' and others don't. Which document are we talking
about and which line?

We want to avoid offending too many people (but I don't particularly care about
offending RMS or ESR :), and as Laura suggested, avoid the confusion that
may arise from people who think free/open source means 'not useful in 
a real business situation' and will then automatically stay away before
we even get a chance at evangelizing them about this.

While most of us have a background of supporting free and/or open source
software, I'd also like to avoid giving the impression we restrict all this
to such supporters only. I'd like this conference to welcome everybody that
is interested in Zope and Python, even if they're, say, Microsoft themselves.
Those who want to evangelize will then get the opportunity to actually
preach to the non-converted, so that's beneficial to everybody. :)

I myself use both vi and emacs. Analogously, I can pose as an open source
pragmatist and as a free software advocate equally. :)

Note: let's not start a whole debate about this issue, as that's what
I'm trying to avoid. I'm just asking for input on what lines in which
documents people are having debates about, so that we can quickly reach
a conclusion. If you feel like debating please send me private mail and
don't cc to the list. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From Alexandre.Fayolle@logilab.fr  Wed Feb 13 15:56:53 2002
From: Alexandre.Fayolle@logilab.fr (Alexandre Fayolle)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:56:53 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] A talk about Stackless?
In-Reply-To: <3C6A8AD9.2040302@tismer.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202131654580.7539-100000@sagittarius.logilab.fr>

On Wed, 13 Feb 2002, Christian Tismer wrote:

> I would like to give a talk at Europython.
> It might be a paper, or maybe a discussion, for sure
> there will be a presentation.

+1 ;o)
 
> Is there interest in this, and what shape is preferred?

There is interest, at least on my side. A presentation is required, and a
paper would be welcome too. 

Alexandre Fayolle
-- 
LOGILAB, Paris (France).
http://www.logilab.com   http://www.logilab.fr  http://www.logilab.org
Narval, the first software agent available as free software (GPL).



From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 13 15:54:13 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:54:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202121110010.3367-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020212112401.B31910@math.jussieu.fr>  <E16am6t-0001rw-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <200202131357.g1DDvxGo031006@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <3C6A8C25.D12A15D4@lemburg.com>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> 
> I tried the formulation 'free and open source software' for a conference
> I organised.  It bombed.  Everybody thought I meant 'free/open source
> software, that ALSO COST NO MONEY'.  After all, if I did not mean
> 'COST NO MONEY' then either free, or open source, would be enough.
> 
> There are no easy answers here.  I have personally moved to using
> Open Source exclusively, and let the unthinking RMS-acolytes hate me,
> but that may not be an option for you.
> 
> Just to warn you that I tried it your way and it failed miserably.

Last I looked there was no mention of "free" anywhere in the
press release. Let's leave this discussion now and move on...

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From lac@strakt.com  Wed Feb 13 16:04:59 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:04:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] contest clarifications
Message-ID: <200202131604.g1DG4x9r031574@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

Can people enter things they have been writing for years?
Will you fly people in from outside of Europe?
If so I am going to tell Prabhu to enter MayaVi
http://mayavi.sourceforge.net/index.html

He is an Indian phd student, who cannot afford flying to Europe when he
feels like it.  Of course its the scientific python conference at
Lawrence Livermore that somebody should make sure that he can 
attend ....

Just for clarification ....

Laura


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 16:17:30 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:17:30 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] paper selection committee
In-Reply-To: <E16b0gT-0003y1-00@mail.python.org>
References: <E16b0GU-0001jg-00@mail.python.org> <m37kphjvme.fsf@mira.informatik.hu-berlin.de> <E16b0gT-0003y1-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20020213161730.GA4989@vet.uu.nl>

Alex Martelli wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2002 03:37 pm, Martin v. Loewis wrote:
> > Alex Martelli <aleax@aleax.it> writes:
> > > I've just joined the list (having barely recovered from IPC10:-), but I'm
> > > available to referee/review papers if needed (assuming that doesn't
> > > create a conflict of interest with _submitting_ papers, right?).
> >
> > Certainly not; it was the same on IPC.
> 
> So it was, just double-checking because my selfish interest to present
> at EP is even higher than my impulse to help EP's papers' quality:-).
> Besides, "it never hurts to state one's assumptions out loud"...

Welcome Alex. Good that you double checked, as we didn't have a policy for
that yet, but I'll add one to the wiki (http://www.europython.org/wiki)
based on this. :)

Regards,

Martijn




From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 16:18:04 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:18:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] paper selection committee
In-Reply-To: <E16b0gT-0003y1-00@mail.python.org>
References: <E16b0GU-0001jg-00@mail.python.org> <m37kphjvme.fsf@mira.informatik.hu-berlin.de> <E16b0gT-0003y1-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20020213161804.GB4989@vet.uu.nl>

Alex Martelli wrote:
> On Wednesday 13 February 2002 03:37 pm, Martin v. Loewis wrote:
> > Alex Martelli <aleax@aleax.it> writes:
> > > I've just joined the list (having barely recovered from IPC10:-), but I'm
> > > available to referee/review papers if needed (assuming that doesn't
> > > create a conflict of interest with _submitting_ papers, right?).
> >
> > Certainly not; it was the same on IPC.
> 
> So it was, just double-checking because my selfish interest to present
> at EP is even higher than my impulse to help EP's papers' quality:-).
> Besides, "it never hurts to state one's assumptions out loud"...

Oh, and please add yourself to the teams you think you can contribute to:

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTeams

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 16:22:43 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:22:43 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] A talk about Stackless?
In-Reply-To: <3C6A8AD9.2040302@tismer.com>
References: <3C6A8AD9.2040302@tismer.com>
Message-ID: <20020213162243.GC4989@vet.uu.nl>

Christian Tismer wrote:
> I'm at the moment very busy to get my completely new
> Stackless implementation to fly.
> I would like to give a talk at Europython.
> It might be a paper, or maybe a discussion, for sure
> there will be a presentation.
> 
> Is there interest in this, and what shape is preferred?

YES there is interest. I think you're so far free to pick your own
shape, though we will likely evolve more ideas about this as things
develop.

What kind of shape would you prefer?

Thanks!

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 16:39:38 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 17:39:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] the budget issue
Message-ID: <20020213163938.GA5429@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

All kinds of ideas are cropping up at the moment involving things that
cost actual money. :) As of yet, EuroPython has not much of a budget,
so flying over people is currently beyond our means.

This may change with sponsorship and conference fees, but the picture right
now on how much we could spend if anything at all is completely murky.
We have the conference venue (though apparently not entirely free anymore,
as we thought before), and we've got a lot of volunteer activity, so we're
not doing too badly even without it. Still, looks like we'd have to start
working the budget ASAP. Any volunteers? :)

Regards,

Martijn



From mwh@python.net  Wed Feb 13 16:54:52 2002
From: mwh@python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: 13 Feb 2002 16:54:52 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] A talk about Stackless?
In-Reply-To: Christian Tismer's message of "Wed, 13 Feb 2002 16:48:41 +0100"
References: <3C6A8AD9.2040302@tismer.com>
Message-ID: <2mk7thpbj7.fsf@starship.python.net>

Christian Tismer <tismer@tismer.com> writes:

> Hi Europythoneers,
> 
> I'm at the moment very busy to get my completely new
> Stackless implementation to fly.
> I would like to give a talk at Europython.
> It might be a paper, or maybe a discussion, for sure
> there will be a presentation.
> 
> Is there interest in this, and what shape is preferred?

Yes!  Sheesh, ask a silly question...

Cheers,
M.

-- 
  If I had wanted your website to make noise I would have licked
  my finger and rubbed it across the monitor.
                           -- signature of "istartedi" on slashdot.org


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Wed Feb 13 18:08:15 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:08:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] AW: Talk and Budget
In-Reply-To: <E16b2nS-0006gY-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEBHDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi folks,

I'm a newbee in Python/ZOPE and also to this list.
I am a supervisor/coach with a strong software developer and IT consultant
background. I help neerds and projects getting along with irritations like
"management", "project plans", "mile stones", "team leaders" and "emotional
conflicts". I would be happy to talk to the python/zope crowd, but's truly
not "tekki" talk. More like "project and process organisation with ZOPE in
big (> 50 people) software development projects", "what does it mean to be a
happy programmer" or other emotional stuff :-)

Since I'm very greatful to the open/free (-whatever-it-means ;-))- source
community I'm willing to "support" your budget as a sponsor. I would like to
help out with direct support, but my agenda is full-full-full so I don't
have any time left.

Who's responsible for sponsoring?

Regards,
Andrew



From lac@strakt.com  Wed Feb 13 18:07:03 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:07:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Exhibitors at the EuroPython Conference
In-Reply-To: Message from "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com>
 of "Wed, 13 Feb 2002 11:16:04 +0100." <3C6A3CE4.B620E986@lemburg.com>
References: <E16aacP-0002wZ-00@mail.python.org> <3C695066.1308E6A5@openstepnews.com>  <3C6A3CE4.B620E986@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <200202131807.g1DI73Go032625@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

AB Strakt wants exhibition space.  What do we do now?  Wikis are great
for many things but knowing when 'I can stop searching now, 'cause its
not there' is not one of them.  Unless one of you fine folk have
already solved this one ....

Laura


From tismer@tismer.com  Wed Feb 13 18:19:18 2002
From: tismer@tismer.com (Christian Tismer)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:19:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] A talk about Stackless?
References: <3C6A8AD9.2040302@tismer.com> <20020213162243.GC4989@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C6AAE26.5010901@tismer.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:

> Christian Tismer wrote:
> 
>>I'm at the moment very busy to get my completely new
>>Stackless implementation to fly.
>>I would like to give a talk at Europython.
>>It might be a paper, or maybe a discussion, for sure
>>there will be a presentation.
>>
>>Is there interest in this, and what shape is preferred?
>>
> 
> YES there is interest. I think you're so far free to pick your own
> shape, though we will likely evolve more ideas about this as things
> develop.
> 
> What kind of shape would you prefer?


Hmm, I'm quite undecided. I'd like to explain how this new
version works, in contrast to the old one (just short).
One of the biggest advantages of this new thing is that
it is really explainable, since it is so simple and orthogonal
to Python's innards.
At the same time, I'd want to present it in an interactive
session, show some coroutines talking to each others, let
uthreads run in parallel, and show that this works even
from C extension code.
Maybe there could be a discussion like at Spam 9, maybe
with Guido if he likes to.

You know that I'm playing asembly tricks.
But there is also something funny, which we found out when
I visited Jean_Claude Wippler last week:
On a couple of platforms, it is possible to play tricks
with setjmp/longjmp and alloca, to reduce the stack and
expand it again. This is of couse a bit slower than
assembly, but it is quite portable and gives access to
Stackless quite quickly (not on Spark, of course:)

I could imagine that this assembly-less version might
become a compiler option for Standard Python?

ciao - chris

-- 
Christian Tismer             :^)   <mailto:tismer@tismer.com>
Mission Impossible 5oftware  :     Have a break! Take a ride on Python's
Kaunstr. 26                  :    *Starship* http://starship.python.net/
14163 Berlin                 :     PGP key -> http://wwwkeys.pgp.net/
PGP Fingerprint       E182 71C7 1A9D 66E9 9D15  D3CC D4D7 93E2 1FAE F6DF
      where do you want to jump today?   http://www.stackless.com/




From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 13 18:24:39 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:24:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Exhibitors at the EuroPython Conference
References: <E16aacP-0002wZ-00@mail.python.org> <3C695066.1308E6A5@openstepnews.com>  <3C6A3CE4.B620E986@lemburg.com> <200202131807.g1DI73Go032625@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <3C6AAF67.29940112@lemburg.com>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> 
> AB Strakt wants exhibition space.  What do we do now?  Wikis are great
> for many things but knowing when 'I can stop searching now, 'cause its
> not there' is not one of them.  Unless one of you fine folk have
> already solved this one ....

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceExhibitors

I suggest we add all interested companies to that page so
we can contact them later on...

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Wed Feb 13 18:31:39 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:31:39 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] AW: Talk and Budget
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEBHDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202131931060.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Who's responsible for sponsoring?

I added your name to http://www.europython.org/wiki/ConferenceSponsors

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 18:31:10 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:31:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Exhibitors at the EuroPython Conference
In-Reply-To: <200202131807.g1DI73Go032625@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <E16aacP-0002wZ-00@mail.python.org> <3C695066.1308E6A5@openstepnews.com> <3C6A3CE4.B620E986@lemburg.com> <200202131807.g1DI73Go032625@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020213183110.GA6281@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> AB Strakt wants exhibition space.  What do we do now?  Wikis are great
> for many things but knowing when 'I can stop searching now, 'cause its
> not there' is not one of them.  Unless one of you fine folk have
> already solved this one ....

We haven't solved it, but we could use your help:

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceExhibitors (think you might've
found it, as I see your name on it).

We need an ExhibitionTeam, so I've added one. Add your name to it if you
want to help puzzle this out. Denis Frere is our expert on the 
conference grounds, so perhaps he should pop in and say something about
the possibilities.

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ExhibitionTeam

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 18:36:28 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:36:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] AW: Talk and Budget
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEBHDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <E16b2nS-0006gY-00@mail.python.org> <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEBHDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020213183628.GB6281@vet.uu.nl>

Andrew Smart wrote:
[snip]
> I would be happy to talk to the python/zope crowd, but's truly
> not "tekki" talk. More like "project and process organisation with ZOPE in
> big (> 50 people) software development projects", "what does it mean to be a
> happy programmer" or other emotional stuff :-)

Excellent! The Python for Suits/Python in the real world people 
(hint to those people: nmake a team or something :) will hopefully get
back to you on this. There is seems to be a sizable contingent of people
interested in these issues.

> Since I'm very greatful to the open/free (-whatever-it-means ;-))- source
> community I'm willing to "support" your budget as a sponsor.

We've (you? someone? it's a wiki ;) added you to our list and will get back 
to you on that too. 

> Who's responsible for sponsoring?

Good question. :) I'm currently trying to get that part of things in
a better shape. But I really need help on this from someone with more
experience on that (hint to any reader of the list).

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 18:44:04 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:44:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] A talk about Stackless?
In-Reply-To: <3C6AAE26.5010901@tismer.com>
References: <3C6A8AD9.2040302@tismer.com> <20020213162243.GC4989@vet.uu.nl> <3C6AAE26.5010901@tismer.com>
Message-ID: <20020213184404.GC6281@vet.uu.nl>

Christian Tismer wrote:
[snip form and shape of the talk]
> Hmm, I'm quite undecided. I'd like to explain how this new
> version works, in contrast to the old one (just short).
> One of the biggest advantages of this new thing is that
> it is really explainable, since it is so simple and orthogonal
> to Python's innards.
> At the same time, I'd want to present it in an interactive
> session, show some coroutines talking to each others, let
> uthreads run in parallel, and show that this works even
> from C extension code.
> Maybe there could be a discussion like at Spam 9, maybe
> with Guido if he likes to.

Interactive session it should be then. We need to work out some
infrastructure for this type of thing. Though a laptop with overhead
projector will already get us a long way. Added a note to the wiki. 

> You know that I'm playing asembly tricks.
> But there is also something funny, which we found out when
> I visited Jean_Claude Wippler last week:

Someone else else we really need to contact. :)

[snip interesting techie stuff]

Regards,

Martijn



From js@aixtraware.de  Wed Feb 13 18:46:53 2002
From: js@aixtraware.de (Joachim Schmitz)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:46:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] the budget issue
In-Reply-To: <20020213163938.GA5429@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020213163938.GA5429@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <265760000.1013626013@js>

Hi Martijn,

I am back from a short holiday, and can offer my and EuroZopes volunteering =

in this.



--On Mittwoch, Februar 13, 2002 17:39:38 +0100 Martijn Faassen=20
<faassen@vet.uu.nl> wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> All kinds of ideas are cropping up at the moment involving things that
> cost actual money. :) As of yet, EuroPython has not much of a budget,
> so flying over people is currently beyond our means.
>
> This may change with sponsorship and conference fees, but the picture
> right now on how much we could spend if anything at all is completely
> murky. We have the conference venue (though apparently not entirely free
> anymore, as we thought before), and we've got a lot of volunteer
> activity, so we're not doing too badly even without it. Still, looks like
> we'd have to start working the budget ASAP. Any volunteers? :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython



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From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Wed Feb 13 18:46:51 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:46:51 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] AW: Talk and Budget
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202131931060.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEBJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Thanx,

I corrected the name to the name of my company.
I can assure you at least a standard sponsoring, maybe premium (I've to
check my bank account ;-)

Andrew



-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Nicolas Chauvat [mailto:Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Februar 2002 19:32
An: Andrew Smart
Cc: europython@python.org
Betreff: Re: [EuroPython] AW: Talk and Budget


> Who's responsible for sponsoring?

I added your name to http://www.europython.org/wiki/ConferenceSponsors

--
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris
(France)



From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 13 18:51:52 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:51:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Free/Open source issue
References: <20020213155503.GA4234@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C6AB5C8.AB5DEDC@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Note: let's not start a whole debate about this issue, as that's what
> I'm trying to avoid. I'm just asking for input on what lines in which
> documents people are having debates about, so that we can quickly reach
> a conclusion. If you feel like debating please send me private mail and
> don't cc to the list. :)

There are no such documents; the press release never contained
a distinction between free and open source; it always just used
open source and talked about where to get the source code
from. The discussion started on the mailing list as proposal
for an alternative press release opener.

Please, let's end this discussion. There are so many more important
things to organize... like e.g. whether we have Internet access
at the site, whether there are enough coffee machines, projectors,
track supervisors, etc.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From tismer@tismer.com  Wed Feb 13 18:55:09 2002
From: tismer@tismer.com (Christian Tismer)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 19:55:09 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] A talk about Stackless?
References: <3C6A8AD9.2040302@tismer.com> <20020213162243.GC4989@vet.uu.nl> <3C6AAE26.5010901@tismer.com> <20020213184404.GC6281@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C6AB68D.6020908@tismer.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:

> Christian Tismer wrote:
> [snip form and shape of the talk]
> 
>>Hmm, I'm quite undecided. I'd like to explain how this new
>>version works, in contrast to the old one (just short).
>>One of the biggest advantages of this new thing is that
>>it is really explainable, since it is so simple and orthogonal
>>to Python's innards.
>>At the same time, I'd want to present it in an interactive
>>session, show some coroutines talking to each others, let
>>uthreads run in parallel, and show that this works even
>>from C extension code.
>>Maybe there could be a discussion like at Spam 9, maybe
>>with Guido if he likes to.
>>
> 
> Interactive session it should be then. We need to work out some
> infrastructure for this type of thing. Though a laptop with overhead
> projector will already get us a long way. Added a note to the wiki. 
> 
> 
>>You know that I'm playing asembly tricks.
>>But there is also something funny, which we found out when
>>I visited Jean_Claude Wippler last week:
>>
> 
> Someone else else we really need to contact. :)


For sure. He has improved his Metakit quite much, and I
wrote a C interface generator for static structured databases
which makes it very easy to use MK with C.
Well, not Python related.
JC also wrote a proof of concept impl of stackless Tcl, and
it really works (not growing the Stack).
Well, again not Python.
What he might want to show is the MK SQL interface that
Gordon McMillan has written for MK?
Anyway, try to get him out of his snale house.

ciao - chris

-- 
Christian Tismer             :^)   <mailto:tismer@tismer.com>
Mission Impossible 5oftware  :     Have a break! Take a ride on Python's
Kaunstr. 26                  :    *Starship* http://starship.python.net/
14163 Berlin                 :     PGP key -> http://wwwkeys.pgp.net/
PGP Fingerprint       E182 71C7 1A9D 66E9 9D15  D3CC D4D7 93E2 1FAE F6DF
      where do you want to jump today?   http://www.stackless.com/




From lac@strakt.com  Wed Feb 13 19:07:04 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:07:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] I don't know how many of you are reading conferences-discuss@python.org
Message-ID: <200202131907.g1DJ74NK000443@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

But they are discussing something called Sprints now.  See:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/conferences-discuss/2002-February/000029.html

Sounds like fun to me.  

Laura


From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 13 20:05:31 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:05:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] AW: Talk and Budget
References: <E16b2nS-0006gY-00@mail.python.org> <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEBHDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <20020213183628.GB6281@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C6AC70B.18E9B9E@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Andrew Smart wrote:
> [snip]
> > I would be happy to talk to the python/zope crowd, but's truly
> > not "tekki" talk. More like "project and process organisation with ZOPE in
> > big (> 50 people) software development projects", "what does it mean to be a
> > happy programmer" or other emotional stuff :-)
> 
> Excellent! The Python for Suits/Python in the real world people
> (hint to those people: nmake a team or something :) will hopefully get
> back to you on this. There is seems to be a sizable contingent of people
> interested in these issues.

For now, please add proposals on the tracks page I've just created:

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PythonInBusinessTrack

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 20:46:49 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:46:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Free/Open source issue
In-Reply-To: <3C6AB5C8.AB5DEDC@lemburg.com>
References: <20020213155503.GA4234@vet.uu.nl> <3C6AB5C8.AB5DEDC@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020213204649.GA7287@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
[snip]
> Please, let's end this discussion.

Sure. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From lac@strakt.com  Wed Feb 13 20:52:57 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:52:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Why is GPL required in the contest?!?
In-Reply-To: Message from Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>
 of "Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:46:49 +0100." <20020213204649.GA7287@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020213155503.GA4234@vet.uu.nl> <3C6AB5C8.AB5DEDC@lemburg.com>  <20020213204649.GA7287@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <200202132052.g1DKqwGo000764@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

Alas, 2 people have asked me now about this in the Competition:

   "The participants agree that their application free software, 
    protected by the GPL licence."

Some have got LGPL'd stuff.  I think that any open source is more
reasonable.

Laura Creighton


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Wed Feb 13 20:57:52 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:57:52 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] AW: Talk and Budget, Press
In-Reply-To: <3C6AC70B.18E9B9E@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEBLDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

I have just added some ideas...
there is also an comment about the target audience, I just added a idea of
mine.

There is also a good question: who is doing the press/media sort of stuff?

>> Excellent! The Python for Suits/Python in the real world people
>> (hint to those people: nmake a team or something :) will hopefully get
>> back to you on this. There is seems to be a sizable contingent of people
>> interested in these issues.
>
>For now, please add proposals on the tracks page I've just created:
>
>	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PythonInBusinessTrack
>



From lac@strakt.com  Wed Feb 13 20:57:11 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 21:57:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] programming-contest@europython.org
Message-ID: <200202132057.g1DKvBtO000790@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

thats the address at the wiki.  It does not work.
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Whats the real address, and fix the Wiki please

Laura


From nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be  Wed Feb 13 21:01:28 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:01:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] ProgrammingContest
In-Reply-To: <20020213100515.A19137@clara1.tuxeon.com>
References: <E16alRY-0007IM-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202130930480.5894-100000@sagittarius.logilab.fr> <20020213100515.A19137@clara1.tuxeon.com>
Message-ID: <E16b6Wu-0000e4-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Mercredi 13 F=E9vrier 2002 10:05, Stefane Fermigier a =E9crit :
> On Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 09:40:37AM +0100, Alexandre Fayolle wrote:

> >   -> This is python we're talking about, and the GPL is not the defau=
lt
> > licence in the community, even if it is commonly used. I think imposi=
ng
> > the GPL, rather than, for instance, the Python Licence, is an error.
>
> Right. Any license stamped as free software by the FSF and Open Source =
by
> the OSI should do.

This is OK for me

Please do adapt the wiki accordingly.

Regards,

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Association =E9lectronique libre pour la promotion des=20
droits de l'Homme dans la Soci=E9t=E9 de l'information (AEL) -
www.ael.be=20


From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 13 21:07:33 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:07:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Why is GPL required in the contest?!?
References: <20020213155503.GA4234@vet.uu.nl> <3C6AB5C8.AB5DEDC@lemburg.com>  <20020213204649.GA7287@vet.uu.nl> <200202132052.g1DKqwGo000764@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <3C6AD595.C6FAC3EC@lemburg.com>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> 
> Alas, 2 people have asked me now about this in the Competition:
> 
>    "The participants agree that their application free software,
>     protected by the GPL licence."
> 
> Some have got LGPL'd stuff.  I think that any open source is more
> reasonable.

Didn't we agree that the application has to come under an OSI
certified license as only requirement ?!

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Wed Feb 13 21:08:08 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:08:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <200202131357.g1DDvxGo031006@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <E16am6t-0001rw-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <200202131357.g1DDvxGo031006@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <E16b6dN-0000va-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Mercredi 13 F=E9vrier 2002 14:57, Laura Creighton a =E9crit :
> I tried the formulation 'free and open source software' for a conferenc=
e
> I organised.  It bombed.  Everybody thought I meant 'free/open source
> software, that ALSO COST NO MONEY'.  After all, if I did not mean
> 'COST NO MONEY' then either free, or open source, would be enough.
>
> There are no easy answers here.  I have personally moved to using
> Open Source exclusively, and let the unthinking RMS-acolytes hate me,
> but that may not be an option for you.
>
> Just to warn you that I tried it your way and it failed miserably.

Thanks for the note.=20

As Stefane noted in an earlier mail, for many open source and free softwa=
re=20
is the same (at least for him, and nearly for me)

I agree that for people not knowing the details, there is a confusion wit=
h=20
the price. I regret this.

For me the conference is mainly aimed at people who are using python and =
zope=20
in a commercial environment and take benefit for their openness, but also=
 at=20
students who I want to teach the values of this openness.=20

I agree to use the terms that will be the most appropriate and will lead =
to=20
less confusion in the context described above. THis is unfortunate but wo=
uld=20
need too much explanation.

Maybe an explanation could once come. I could once write that to put on t=
he=20
site.

Could we / some of us review the wiki to correct this and present a unifo=
rm=20
approach ?=20

Just an idea: one approach that was adopted at the European COmmission=20
consists to speak about libre software and explain how this temr relates =
to=20
free and open-source. Could we use that formulation ?

Is that OK for you ?

Best regards,

Nicolas
> Laura Creighton
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 13 21:11:41 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:11:41 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] AW: Talk and Budget, Press
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEBLDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <3C6AD68D.F3CF7917@lemburg.com>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> 
> I have just added some ideas...
> there is also an comment about the target audience, I just added a idea of
> mine.

Thanks.
 
> There is also a good question: who is doing the press/media sort of stuff?
 
There will be a press release next week (the release is online,
see 
	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressRelease

It includes a couple of press contacts and possible targets for
the release. If know any other good candidates, please add them
to the list.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Wed Feb 13 21:15:10 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:15:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] AW: Sprints and some ideas for it
In-Reply-To: <E16b6Sb-0004Tx-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEBMDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

>Message: 13
>Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 20:07:04 +0100
>From: Laura Creighton <lac@strakt.com>
>To: europython@python.org
>Subject: [EuroPython] I don't know how many of you are reading
conferences-discuss@python.org
>
>But they are discussing something called Sprints now.  See:
>http://mail.python.org/pipermail/conferences-discuss/2002-February/000029.h
tml
>
>Sounds like fun to me.

YESSS.... I would like that too...

One thing: to be "business acceptable" you need more direct connections to
MS products.
MS is *standard*, no way around. I'm very experienced in programming VB, and
with an experienced python/ZOPE programmer on my side I can easily build
some integration tools.

Wouldn't it be VERY tempting for business people to see how easily you can
integrate the existing software infrastructure into Python projects and visa
versa? (Hey, I can remember my suprise at the first time I implemented a
stable COM server without crashing within 30 minutes with WinPython...).
Some NICE XML/SOAP hacks which can directly be started from within Microsoft
Word documents...

Andrew





From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 21:22:14 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:22:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] I don't know how many of you are reading conferences-discuss@python.org
In-Reply-To: <200202131907.g1DJ74NK000443@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <200202131907.g1DJ74NK000443@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020213212214.GB7287@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> But they are discussing something called Sprints now.  See:
> http://mail.python.org/pipermail/conferences-discuss/2002-February/000029.html
> 
> Sounds like fun to me.  

Yeah, Paul Everitt already said he was interested in doing a Zope3 sprint
around the EuroPython conference. This depends in part on whether 
someone funds Jim Fulton (or someone) coming over, though (and on space,
of course). But we may be able to make EuroPython interesting enough to
draw them without funds.

A more python oriented sprint would also be very interesting, of course.
Interesting idea.

I don't have the time to track the whole sprint organization myself
though. So any group of people interested in this please create a wiki
page. I'm volunteering to take *part* in the sprint, though ;)

Regards,

Martijn



From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 13 21:29:16 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:29:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Wiki editing
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEBLDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <3C6ADAAC.14F44F84@lemburg.com>

Please, no "discussions" on the wiki pages. If there are questions,
these should be directed to the mailing list.

Thank you.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Wed Feb 13 21:37:12 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:37:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release, german translation
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEBNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi folks,

I have someone who is going to translate the english press release to
german. I don't know if I can hold the deadline till friday.

Question: I found no list of press contacts (magazines like C'T,
Computerwoche)...

Do the ZOPE companies have press staff which could help?

Who is doing the press "work" - calling the magazines, getting on the nerves
of the
editor ;-) trying to get press people to the conference and so on?

Andrew



From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Wed Feb 13 21:42:58 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:42:58 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release, german translation
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEBNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEBNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <1013636578.3c6adde268737@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Andrew Smart <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>:

> I have someone who is going to translate the english press release to
> german. I don't know if I can hold the deadline till friday.
> 
> Question: I found no list of press contacts (magazines like C'T,
> Computerwoche)...

Go to http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressReleasePress

> Who is doing the press "work" - calling the magazines, getting on the
> nerves
> of the
> editor ;-) trying to get press people to the conference and so on?

Maybe the http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressTeam ?

Dinu


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 21:55:30 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:55:30 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] programming-contest@europython.org
In-Reply-To: <200202132057.g1DKvBtO000790@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <200202132057.g1DKvBtO000790@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020213215530.GA7691@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> thats the address at the wiki.  It does not work.

I didn't even know the address was mentioned anywhere. :) 

I'll cc this to ivo@amaze.nl, who is graciously helping us with the
hosting of this affair.

Ivo, the programming-contest@europython.org address doesn't work

I think with the current redirect setup for the domain you can't make it
work, right? You'd need full DNS control. Would you have the time to
bug Thomas Reulbach about this? It'd really be much more convenient if
the actual DNS record pointed to the right server. Perhaps it'd be even
better if we could fix the ownership issue. Otherwise I've already got
'www.europy.org' as an alternative.

If you don't have the time I'll go bug Thomas instead. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 21:56:25 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:56:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] AW: Talk and Budget, Press
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEBLDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <3C6AC70B.18E9B9E@lemburg.com> <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEBLDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020213215625.GB7691@vet.uu.nl>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> I have just added some ideas...
> there is also an comment about the target audience, I just added a idea of
> mine.
> 
> There is also a good question: who is doing the press/media sort of stuff?

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PublicRelationsTeam

If you want to help, please add yourself. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 22:01:19 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:01:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Why is GPL required in the contest?!?
In-Reply-To: <3C6AD595.C6FAC3EC@lemburg.com>
References: <20020213155503.GA4234@vet.uu.nl> <3C6AB5C8.AB5DEDC@lemburg.com> <20020213204649.GA7287@vet.uu.nl> <200202132052.g1DKqwGo000764@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <3C6AD595.C6FAC3EC@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020213220119.GC7691@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Laura Creighton wrote:
> > 
> > Alas, 2 people have asked me now about this in the Competition:
> > 
> >    "The participants agree that their application free software,
> >     protected by the GPL licence."
> > 
> > Some have got LGPL'd stuff.  I think that any open source is more
> > reasonable.
> 
> Didn't we agree that the application has to come under an OSI
> certified license as only requirement ?!

Whee, the licenses again. I've hacked the programming contest wiki 
page to take out the GPL stuff and to put in the OSI stuff.

The actual people organizing the contest will have to adjust this with
proper text and URLs to the right places (OSI, FSF), but at least this
will stop people from posting about this to the list again. ;)

Btw, the prizes; who's going to pay for them? I'm wary of promising
prizes if we don't have a proper budget yet. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 13 22:05:27 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:05:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] AW: Sprints and some ideas for it
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEBMDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <E16b6Sb-0004Tx-00@mail.python.org> <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEBMDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020213220527.GD7691@vet.uu.nl>

Andrew Smart wrote:
[sprints]
> YESSS.... I would like that too...
> 
> One thing: to be "business acceptable" you need more direct connections to
> MS products.
> MS is *standard*, no way around. I'm very experienced in programming VB, and
> with an experienced python/ZOPE programmer on my side I can easily build
> some integration tools.
[snip why this is tempting for business people]

It would be good to have some discussion/tutorial/talk at the conference 
about this. It won't be me organizing this part, as I don't work a lot
with MS tools anymore though.. But make that part of the business track,
by all means!

I do not think MS integration should be the target of a sprint though; 
don't think you'll too many hackers with that. And I'd say sprints are for 
hackers primarily, not for business people. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Wed Feb 13 22:50:22 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:50:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] PressRelease
Message-ID: <E16b8EN-0004nB-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

The press release on

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressRelease

looks much better to me now, thanks to the comunity effort.

In order to stress that, I have just added 'please remove if you don't li=
ke,=20
but for me it makes a difference to have 20000 developpers contributing t=
o a=20
community efforts and 3 000 000 independant developpers. I like best the=20
first and consider it to be more efficient.

"Python, Jython and Zope are maintained and enhanced by a community effor=
t,=20
supported by many companies, that contribute altogether to these=20
applications."=20

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Wed Feb 13 22:59:46 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:59:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ToBeDone
Message-ID: <E16b8NP-0005Ks-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

I have just added a page to summarize the actions to be done with a deadl=
ine

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ToBeDone

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Wed Feb 13 23:02:47 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:02:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] programming-contest@europython.org
In-Reply-To: <20020213215530.GA7691@vet.uu.nl>
References: <200202132057.g1DKvBtO000790@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020213215530.GA7691@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <E16b8QK-0005P4-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Mercredi 13 F=E9vrier 2002 22:55, Martijn Faassen a =E9crit :

> Ivo, the programming-contest@europython.org address doesn't work
>
> I think with the current redirect setup for the domain you can't make i=
t
> work, right? You'd need full DNS control. Would you have the time to
> bug Thomas Reulbach about this? It'd really be much more convenient if
> the actual DNS record pointed to the right server. Perhaps it'd be even
> better if we could fix the ownership issue. Otherwise I've already got
> 'www.europy.org' as an alternative.
>
> If you don't have the time I'll go bug Thomas instead. :)
>

We may need other addresses like info@europython.org soon I suppose.

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Wed Feb 13 23:05:33 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:05:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Why is GPL required in the contest?!?
In-Reply-To: <20020213220119.GC7691@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020213155503.GA4234@vet.uu.nl> <3C6AD595.C6FAC3EC@lemburg.com> <20020213220119.GC7691@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <E16b8T0-0005b0-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Mercredi 13 F=E9vrier 2002 23:01, Martijn Faassen a =E9crit :

> > Didn't we agree that the application has to come under an OSI
> > certified license as only requirement ?!

> Whee, the licenses again. I've hacked the programming contest wiki
> page to take out the GPL stuff and to put in the OSI stuff.

This is much better indeed. Sorry I just copied the idea from Google cont=
est.

> The actual people organizing the contest will have to adjust this with
> proper text and URLs to the right places (OSI, FSF), but at least this
> will stop people from posting about this to the list again. ;)
>
> Btw, the prizes; who's going to pay for them? I'm wary of promising
> prizes if we don't have a proper budget yet. :)

Right, but I am quite sure we will find some money. Just don't knwo the=20
amount yet.

It can be changed if you have other ideas.

Nicolas



--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Wed Feb 13 23:16:52 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:16:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Free/Open source issue
In-Reply-To: <20020213204649.GA7287@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020213155503.GA4234@vet.uu.nl> <3C6AB5C8.AB5DEDC@lemburg.com> <20020213204649.GA7287@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <E16b8dw-00060T-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

I am sorry I introduced the "discussion" with the licence question in the=
=20
programming contest.=20

I'll try to be more on the spot and be sure it doesn't come again (even i=
f I=20
am intimately convinced that GPL is in the case of the public adminsitrat=
ion,=20
ir. my case, the best licence)

If it does come, please CHANGE it to "open-source (OSI) approved"

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Wed Feb 13 23:19:53 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 00:19:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] A talk about Stackless?
In-Reply-To: <3C6A8AD9.2040302@tismer.com>
References: <3C6A8AD9.2040302@tismer.com>
Message-ID: <E16b8gs-0006CK-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Mercredi 13 F=E9vrier 2002 16:48, Christian Tismer a =E9crit :
> Hi Europythoneers,
>
> I'm at the moment very busy to get my completely new
> Stackless implementation to fly.
> I would like to give a talk at Europython.
> It might be a paper, or maybe a discussion, for sure
> there will be a presentation.
>
> Is there interest in this, and what shape is preferred?

why don't yo add yourself to

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PeopleAndTalks

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From denis@aragne.com  Thu Feb 14 01:04:58 2002
From: denis@aragne.com (Denis)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 02:04:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Exhibitors at the EuroPython Conference
In-Reply-To: <20020213183110.GA6281@vet.uu.nl>
References: <E16aacP-0002wZ-00@mail.python.org> <3C695066.1308E6A5@openstepnews.com> <3C6A3CE4.B620E986@lemburg.com> <200202131807.g1DI73Go032625@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020213183110.GA6281@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020214020458.C11748@carolo.net>

Le Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 07:31:10PM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> Laura Creighton wrote:
> > AB Strakt wants exhibition space.
> 
> We need an ExhibitionTeam, so I've added one. Add your name to it if you
> want to help puzzle this out. Denis Frere is our expert on the 
> conference grounds, so perhaps he should pop in and say something about
> the possibilities.

Well, I've been in that building and I think it's big enough for our
conference. Now, I should have to go there again and have a new look in
regard of all what's been discussed on this list.
(At first, I tought it would be a great Python fair ; now, I sometimes
fear it would become a BigIT-Expo. But I don't want to refrain your
enthousiasm during what I think is still a brainstorming, so I prefer
to keep silent until real decisions will be made).

Let me a few days to manage a jump down there. I'll take some bigger 
pictures if you want to have a better view. Today, I'm looking at the
http://www.ceme.be/en/sallea.htm page and I'm still thinking there is
place enough : for example, there is a nice rotunda (so says my
dictionary) big enough for small booths. 

It depends on what exhibitors want exactly.

I guess I should join the ExhibitionTeam, SponsoringTeam or whatever
you'd like to name it (yes, I think ExhibitionTeam should be a bit
clarified).

Perhaps that exhibitors could contact me directly, asking what they
would like to have as free area, conveniences, etc.

Regards,

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From tim@2wave.net  Thu Feb 14 07:23:07 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 07:23:07 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] paper selection committee
In-Reply-To: <E16b0IL-0001li-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20020214072307.57878.qmail@web14501.mail.yahoo.com>

Who from the list is volunteering to become a member
of the paper selection commitee ?
"""

I'm available to referee/review papers 

Tim

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From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Thu Feb 14 07:27:13 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:27:13 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] paper selection committee
In-Reply-To: <20020214072307.57878.qmail@web14501.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020214072307.57878.qmail@web14501.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1013671633.3c6b66d1d4b66@webmail.in-berlin.de>

> > Who from the list is volunteering to become a member
> > of the paper selection commitee ?
> 
> I'm available to referee/review papers 

So am I.

Dinu


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Thu Feb 14 07:36:43 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:36:43 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Graphics, logos, styling, design, fonts, etc
Message-ID: <1013672203.3c6b690b6aafa@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Is anybody working on graphics material for EuroPython?
Logo, styles, etc? Is there a DesignTeam?

<ShamelessPlug>The most portable way of creating some
nice logo is to use the free ReportLab graphics package, as
Just van Rossum did for the logos of Python10 which you can 
see here: http://www.python10.org/ It gives you vector and bit-
map graphics from which you can create any bitmap formats 
plus EPS and PDF (with almost infinite resolution). You can 
get it from http://www.reportlab.com . </ShamelessPlug>

Just, are you here to comment on any possible donnations
from your side? (I added "fonts" to the subject line to get your
attention! ;-)

Regards,

Dinu



From tim@2wave.net  Thu Feb 14 08:06:42 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:06:42 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Program and Selection Committee roles
In-Reply-To: <E16b8Ob-0005ft-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20020214080642.63401.qmail@web14501.mail.yahoo.com>

Can we clarify the roles of the ProgramCommittee and
the SelectionCommittee [so that both can get on
without toe-treading :-) ].

Any offers?

Tim

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From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Thu Feb 14 08:08:59 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:08:59 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
Message-ID: <1013674139.3c6b709bdfae8@webmail.in-berlin.de>

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressReleasePress

contains a whole lot of entries, but in order to really contact 
them people need to have something like email addresses
(or phone numbers). Could people try to provide such data
for each entry, maybe? And someone should be appointed
to actually do the mailings, maybe one for each country.

Dinu


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Thu Feb 14 08:51:26 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 09:51:26 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython.org typo
Message-ID: <1013676686.3c6b7a8e0617b@webmail.in-berlin.de>

I'm not sure who maintains that, so I'm posting here:
It should read: 

  The 1st EuroPython Conference

and not

  The 1ste EuroPython Conference

In fact, why not just:

  The First EuroPython Conference

Dinu


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Thu Feb 14 09:14:08 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 10:14:08 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython.org typo
In-Reply-To: <1013676686.3c6b7a8e0617b@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <1013676686.3c6b7a8e0617b@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <1013678048.3c6b7fe0093f4@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Dinu Gherman <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de>:

> I'm not sure who maintains that, so I'm posting here:

Also a crucial piece of information is missing, namely
the expected number of participants, which is important
for sponsoring activities. It doesn't matter if it is 500 or
600, but it does matter if it is 50 or 500. You get the idea.

My expectation would be around 200-300 participants.
Heck, this list already has already 80 members...

Dinu


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Thu Feb 14 11:06:33 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:06:33 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release, german translation
In-Reply-To: <1013636578.3c6adde268737@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202141206020.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Maybe the http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressTeam ?

I think you meant http://europython.org/wiki/PublicRelationTeam ?

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Thu Feb 14 11:19:59 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:19:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Graphics, logos, styling, design, fonts, etc
In-Reply-To: <1013672203.3c6b690b6aafa@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <1013672203.3c6b690b6aafa@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020214121959.E11748@carolo.net>

Le Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 08:36:43AM +0100, Dinu Gherman pianota:
> Is anybody working on graphics material for EuroPython?
> Logo, styles, etc? Is there a DesignTeam?

Since nothing is coming up to now, I've put one of our fellows
on the matter. He will do something before the end of the day.
(His name is Vincent Maton, he's now subscribed to the list too).

> <ShamelessPlug>The most portable way of creating some
> nice logo is to use the free ReportLab graphics package
> [...]

I love Reportlab libs, but Vincent is not used to play with it.
If you help him, all is possible.

Denis

(I'll be out again for the whole day).

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Thu Feb 14 11:26:44 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:26:44 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Exhibitors at the EuroPython Conference
In-Reply-To: <20020214020458.C11748@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202141220290.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Perhaps that exhibitors could contact me directly, asking what they
> would like to have as free area, conveniences, etc.

AS a potential exhibitor, I'd say "Small is beautiful". We would mainly
use a booth to let people that say "Hey, I'd like to eventually meet these
guys" actually find us and have a display with slides presenting what
we're doing. That's one table and two chairs.

Small booths would be cheaper and you'd have more of them, so lot of
companies could have a presence there and get a chance to meet with
everyone else.

My experience at fairs is that flex-your-muscles-big-boothers don't
impress people that much and don't get much out of it... Start-up season
is over by now, businesses would rather see you there every year with a
6m2 booth than one year with a 60m2 one and never ever again ;-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Thu Feb 14 11:54:19 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:54:19 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Offer: publishing contact
Message-ID: <1013687659.3c6ba56b1ee63@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Hi,

I can establish a contact to a marketing person/manager=20
at PearsonEd.fr who is not quite sure they can sponsor the
event, but would love to hear more about it. This should be=20
an excellent opportunity to train your persuasion muscles!

Pearson.com is an "umbrella publisher" (not sure if that
notion exists, maybe "container class" is more appropriate)=20
which, among many others, Addison-Wesley, Prentice-Hall=20
and Financial Times are a part of.

I'm willing to give his coordinates to anybody speaking well
French who can convince him to spend a few bucks. Who
is that going to be, Denis, Nicolas&Nicolas or St=E9fane?
Please get in touch and decide who will do it. Then ask=20
me for his coordinates... ;-)

His general attitude is roughly this: Python hasn't quite=20
taken off in France, and definitly not with Pearson books.
So I guess you can argue like this: if you don't jump on
it now you'll leave it all to O'Reilly (who will likely organize
a Python-specific event this year in the US). Also, there
are 21 different Python books in Amazon.com - how many
from Pearson?

Regards,

Dinu

PS: BTW, we need to think what companies will get for
thir sponsoring...



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Thu Feb 14 11:55:27 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 12:55:27 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] paper selection committee
In-Reply-To: <1013671633.3c6b66d1d4b66@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202141255160.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> > > Who from the list is volunteering to become a member
> > > of the paper selection commitee ?
> > 
> > I'm available to referee/review papers 
> 
> So am I.

I added both of you to the list.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From lac@strakt.com  Thu Feb 14 12:12:50 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:12:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: Message from Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org>
 of "Wed, 13 Feb 2002 22:08:08 +0100." <E16b6dN-0000va-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <E16am6t-0001rw-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <200202131357.g1DDvxGo031006@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>  <E16b6dN-0000va-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <200202141212.g1ECCoGo001433@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

>Nicolas Pettiaux
>
> Le Mercredi 13 F=E9vrier 2002 14:57, Laura Creighton a =E9crit :
> > I tried the formulation 'free and open source software' for a conferen=
ce
> > I organised.  It bombed.  Everybody thought I meant 'free/open source
> > software, that ALSO COST NO MONEY'.  After all, if I did not mean
> > 'COST NO MONEY' then either free, or open source, would be enough.
> >
> > There are no easy answers here.  I have personally moved to using
> > Open Source exclusively, and let the unthinking RMS-acolytes hate me,
> > but that may not be an option for you.
> >
> > Just to warn you that I tried it your way and it failed miserably.
> =

> Thanks for the note. =

> =

> As Stefane noted in an earlier mail, for many open source and free softw=
are =

> is the same (at least for him, and nearly for me)
> =

> I agree that for people not knowing the details, there is a confusion wi=
th =

> the price. I regret this.
> =

> For me the conference is mainly aimed at people who are using python and=
 zope =

> in a commercial environment and take benefit for their openness, but als=
o at =

> students who I want to teach the values of this openness. =

-----------------

You will have no problem attracting students to this as long as =

it does not cost too much, a goal you have attained.  Once they
arrive we can begin to educate them.  But if you use the word
Free in English describing the software at the conference, then
the people who make purchasing decisions will think _this is a
hobby conference_ and not come.  I want to avoid this at all costs,
even if some students whom it would be worth teaching about
open source do not attend.  Fliers that I want to send to major
government purchasing agencies must not talk about free software,
or I will not make any sales and it will be worse than a waste of
time, it will damage my reputation as a commercially successful
open source company.  This  must not happen.

> I agree to use the terms that will be the most appropriate and will lead=
 to =

> less confusion in the context described above. THis is unfortunate but w=
ould =

> need too much explanation.
> =

> Maybe an explanation could once come. I could once write that to put on =
the =

> site.
> =

> Could we / some of us review the wiki to correct this and present a unif=
orm =

> approach ? =

> =

> Just an idea: one approach that was adopted at the European COmmission =

> consists to speak about libre software and explain how this temr relates=
 to =

> free and open-source. Could we use that formulation ?

On the Wiki, yes, great wonderful.

Now, I have a question for you.  Who is organising things with the
Commission.  I have some good contacts, but you are in Belgium, so
you most likely have better ones.  I want to invite the Commission
to the conference.  They have pots of money which they are trying
to spend to foster European cooporation and competitiveness.  We =

should try to get some.  What we are doing is precisely what they
want us to do, so we should try to get paid for it.

I have the idea for a track designed to teach the Commission that
when they want a coorporative European solution to a computer related
problem they should run not walk to the Python community and purchase
one.  We want talks about 'unicode and you: getting your name
spelled correctly for a change' and 'python: the glue -- how to
stick your solution together when half of it was made in European
country A and the rest in European country B' and 'successful
international collaborations using python' and  .... I can brainstorm
a dozen more off the top of my head.

AB Strakt already has the sort of composition that the Commision makes
noises about.  We are in Sweden but have principals in Italy and
the Netherlands.  We think the difficulty in being a start-up
with principals in separate countries is more than offset by how
good you can be if you do not restrict yourself to only the people
who are available in one country.  We could talk about that, if
there is any interest.  We _will_ talk about that informally in any
case.

I know that Logilab has an international collaboration going on
with some other countries.  Who else?

I want to leave the Commission with the idea that the python community
is a great place to spend money.  WHo is in charge of that, and
what can we do to help?

Laura Creighton -- on behalf of all of AB Strakt for this one ---


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Thu Feb 14 12:24:11 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 13:24:11 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <200202141212.g1ECCoGo001433@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202141323420.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> I want to leave the Commission with the idea that the python community
> is a great place to spend money.  WHo is in charge of that, and
> what can we do to help?

Open up a page on the wiki that sums up what you just said :-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From sf@fermigier.com  Thu Feb 14 13:17:49 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:17:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Offer: publishing contact
In-Reply-To: <1013687659.3c6ba56b1ee63@webmail.in-berlin.de>; from gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de on Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 12:54:19PM +0100
References: <1013687659.3c6ba56b1ee63@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020214141749.G49973@math.jussieu.fr>

On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 12:54:19PM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> Hi,
>=20
> I can establish a contact to a marketing person/manager=20
> at PearsonEd.fr who is not quite sure they can sponsor the
> event, but would love to hear more about it. This should be=20
> an excellent opportunity to train your persuasion muscles!
>=20
> Pearson.com is an "umbrella publisher" (not sure if that
> notion exists, maybe "container class" is more appropriate)=20
> which, among many others, Addison-Wesley, Prentice-Hall=20
> and Financial Times are a part of.
>=20
> I'm willing to give his coordinates to anybody speaking well
> French who can convince him to spend a few bucks. Who
> is that going to be, Denis, Nicolas&Nicolas or St=E9fane?
> Please get in touch and decide who will do it. Then ask=20
> me for his coordinates... ;-)
>=20
> His general attitude is roughly this: Python hasn't quite=20
> taken off in France, and definitly not with Pearson books.
> So I guess you can argue like this: if you don't jump on
> it now you'll leave it all to O'Reilly (who will likely organize
> a Python-specific event this year in the US). Also, there
> are 21 different Python books in Amazon.com - how many
> from Pearson?

Isn't New Riders / SAMS part of Pearson ? (I think so).

Anyway, I can contact the person in France (I may even pehaps already
know him/her).

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Thu Feb 14 13:21:20 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 14:21:20 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Offer: publishing contact
In-Reply-To: <20020214141749.G49973@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <1013687659.3c6ba56b1ee63@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020214141749.G49973@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <1013692880.3c6bb9d0c8caa@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Stefane Fermigier <sf@fermigier.com>:

> Isn't New Riders / SAMS part of Pearson ? (I think so).

Yes, I forgot that...

> Anyway, I can contact the person in France (I may even pehaps already
> know him/her).


I'm sending you the details under seperate cover. Let me
know what happened...

Dinu


From lac@strakt.com  Thu Feb 14 14:29:37 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:29:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] AW: Sprints and some ideas for it
In-Reply-To: Message from Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>
 of "Wed, 13 Feb 2002 23:05:27 +0100." <20020213220527.GD7691@vet.uu.nl>
References: <E16b6Sb-0004Tx-00@mail.python.org> <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEBMDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>  <20020213220527.GD7691@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <200202141429.g1EETbGo001650@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> I do not think MS integration should be the target of a sprint though; 
> don't think you'll too many hackers with that. And I'd say sprints are for 
> hackers primarily, not for business people. :)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Martijn
> 

I had enormous success at an open source conference where we just 
took requests from business people and fixed them up with solutions.
A team had 3 hours to produce one.  The whole idea was to impress
business people that you could actually order an open source solution
to any problem you had.  Admittedly, this conference was put on
by idependent open source consultants who had come there to impress
the hell out of the suits so they could get nice new paying 
contracts --- but there is nothing in my experience that says we
are in any way short of such people in the python community.  So
I would say, give it a chance.

Laura Creighton



From nico@tekNico.net  Thu Feb 14 14:42:48 2002
From: nico@tekNico.net (Nicola Larosa)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:42:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release in Italian
Message-ID: <3C6BCCE8.1080208@tekNico.net>

Hi everybody, hi Martijn ;^) .

I added a page for the press release in Italian, I will translate it as soon 
as the deadline elapses (that was next Friday, right?).

Looking forward to see you all in Charleroi!


-- 
"I was wondering if there's any kind of definitive nickname for Perl
programmers, the way we call ourselves Pythonistas?" - Aahz Maruch
"Masochists." - Daniel Klein

Nicola Larosa - nico@tekNico.net



From lac@strakt.com  Thu Feb 14 14:47:39 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 15:47:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <200202141447.g1EEldN3001760@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

While doing other things I have corrected the spelling of this name twice.
There are 2 's'es.  Somebody making press releases does not know this.

Laura


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb 14 16:24:18 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:24:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] AW: Sprints and some ideas for it
In-Reply-To: <200202141429.g1EETbGo001650@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <E16b6Sb-0004Tx-00@mail.python.org> <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEBMDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <20020213220527.GD7691@vet.uu.nl> <200202141429.g1EETbGo001650@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020214162418.GA10856@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> > I do not think MS integration should be the target of a sprint though; 
> > don't think you'll too many hackers with that. And I'd say sprints are for 
> > hackers primarily, not for business people. :)

> I had enormous success at an open source conference where we just 
> took requests from business people and fixed them up with solutions.
> A team had 3 hours to produce one.  The whole idea was to impress
> business people that you could actually order an open source solution
> to any problem you had.  Admittedly, this conference was put on
> by idependent open source consultants who had come there to impress
> the hell out of the suits so they could get nice new paying 
> contracts --- but there is nothing in my experience that says we
> are in any way short of such people in the python community.  So
> I would say, give it a chance.

I'd like to give that a chance, if there are people willing to organize
that. But I'd like to separate that from a 'sprint', which I selfishly
think should be more hacker-oriented (lower level infrastructure and
abstractions and such, by hackers for hackers). But there's no reason
we can't have both (or either, given time and motivation).

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb 14 16:25:54 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:25:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython.org typo
In-Reply-To: <1013676686.3c6b7a8e0617b@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <1013676686.3c6b7a8e0617b@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020214162554.GB10856@vet.uu.nl>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> I'm not sure who maintains that, so I'm posting here:
> It should read: 
> 
>   The 1st EuroPython Conference
> 
> and not
> 
>   The 1ste EuroPython Conference
> 
> In fact, why not just:
> 
>   The First EuroPython Conference

Thought I'd corrected that in a page already. Did it go back? Perhaps
there wasn't another page. For historical reasons I'm wary of using 'first';
there are too many claims for 'first' and I don't want to offend any 
such claims. I'd like to de-empathize the word 'first' a little.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb 14 16:29:45 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:29:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>
In-Reply-To: <200202141447.g1EEldN3001760@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <200202141447.g1EEldN3001760@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020214162945.GC10856@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> While doing other things I have corrected the spelling of this name twice.
> There are 2 's'es.  Somebody making press releases does not know this.

Thanks! I know everybody keeps misspelling my last name. Angalon (a MUD
I run..) even catches my last name in its 'offensiveness filter' for
character names if I mistakenly try to log in with that (instead of my
mud nickname). Now it should be easy for people to remember that there's
two 's'es after the a (but two a's as well :).

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb 14 16:32:21 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:32:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Program and Selection Committee roles
In-Reply-To: <20020214080642.63401.qmail@web14501.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <E16b8Ob-0005ft-00@mail.python.org> <20020214080642.63401.qmail@web14501.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020214163221.GD10856@vet.uu.nl>

Tim Couper wrote:
> Can we clarify the roles of the ProgramCommittee and
> the SelectionCommittee [so that both can get on
> without toe-treading :-) ].

Perhaps we should just merge them. But if we don't, the selection
committee would be responsible for the *content* of the talks (and
primarily the talks), and who gives the talks and such.

The program committee is responsible for the actual program, like,
what happens when. This doesn't only include the talks, but also things
like breaks and special events.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb 14 16:34:32 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 17:34:32 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release in Italian
In-Reply-To: <3C6BCCE8.1080208@tekNico.net>
References: <3C6BCCE8.1080208@tekNico.net>
Message-ID: <20020214163431.GE10856@vet.uu.nl>

Nicola Larosa wrote:
> Hi everybody, hi Martijn ;^) .

Hi there!

> I added a page for the press release in Italian, I will translate it as 
> soon as the deadline elapses (that was next Friday, right?).

Yup, tomorrow. Thanks!

> Looking forward to see you all in Charleroi!

Likewise!

Regards,

Martijn



From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 14 17:00:05 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:00:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
References: <1013674139.3c6b709bdfae8@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <3C6BED15.AAC2616A@lemburg.com>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> 
> http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressReleasePress
> 
> contains a whole lot of entries, but in order to really contact
> them people need to have something like email addresses
> (or phone numbers). Could people try to provide such data
> for each entry, maybe? And someone should be appointed
> to actually do the mailings, maybe one for each country.

Why not simply add the name of the people willing to
establish the contact behind the entries ? Then, if the
release has been sent there (which should happen early
next week), this fact should also be noted behind the entry.

I've put the procedure on the wiki page:

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressReleasePress

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 14 17:03:18 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:03:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython.org typo
References: <1013676686.3c6b7a8e0617b@webmail.in-berlin.de> <1013678048.3c6b7fe0093f4@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <3C6BEDD6.E84619E6@lemburg.com>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> 
> Dinu Gherman <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de>:
> 
> > I'm not sure who maintains that, so I'm posting here:
> 
> Also a crucial piece of information is missing, namely
> the expected number of participants, which is important
> for sponsoring activities. It doesn't matter if it is 500 or
> 600, but it does matter if it is 50 or 500. You get the idea.
> 
> My expectation would be around 200-300 participants.
> Heck, this list already has already 80 members...

That number should go onto:

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceAttendees

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 14 17:04:26 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:04:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Exhibitors at the EuroPython Conference
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202141220290.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <3C6BEE1A.973CE596@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> 
> > Perhaps that exhibitors could contact me directly, asking what they
> > would like to have as free area, conveniences, etc.
> 
> AS a potential exhibitor, I'd say "Small is beautiful". We would mainly
> use a booth to let people that say "Hey, I'd like to eventually meet these
> guys" actually find us and have a display with slides presenting what
> we're doing. That's one table and two chairs.
> 
> Small booths would be cheaper and you'd have more of them, so lot of
> companies could have a presence there and get a chance to meet with
> everyone else.
> 
> My experience at fairs is that flex-your-muscles-big-boothers don't
> impress people that much and don't get much out of it... Start-up season
> is over by now, businesses would rather see you there every year with a
> 6m2 booth than one year with a 60m2 one and never ever again ;-)

Please put this information on:

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceExhibitors

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From lac@strakt.com  Thu Feb 14 17:45:09 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:45:09 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Wiki Syntax - TextFormattingRules
Message-ID: <200202141745.g1EHj91B003260@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

I have read: TextFormattingRules 
But still do not know how to paste in a chunk of text, code say, where
you want no bullets, not a blank line after every line, and no 
squishing the lines together either.  Just exactly as written.
How?

Laura Creighton



From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 14 18:13:14 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 19:13:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Wiki Syntax - TextFormattingRules
References: <200202141745.g1EHj91B003260@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <3C6BFE3A.51CD4C@lemburg.com>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> 
> I have read: TextFormattingRules
> But still do not know how to paste in a chunk of text, code say, where
> you want no bullets, not a blank line after every line, and no
> squishing the lines together either.  Just exactly as written.
> How?

<pre>
...
</pre>

???

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Thu Feb 14 17:27:28 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 18:27:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] ZOPE BBQ - beehieve contact / estimates of attendees
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIECKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi,

in April (11th, 12th) is the ZOPE BBQ meeting in Berlin...

Is there anyone from beehieve (they organize the BBQ) on this list?
I think we could use their estimates of attendees to get a feeling, if they
are willing to supply us with this information.

Andrew





From lac@strakt.com  Thu Feb 14 18:15:39 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 19:15:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Wiki Syntax - TextFormattingRules
In-Reply-To: Message from "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com>
 of "Thu, 14 Feb 2002 19:13:14 +0100." <3C6BFE3A.51CD4C@lemburg.com>
References: <200202141745.g1EHj91B003260@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>  <3C6BFE3A.51CD4C@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <200202141815.g1EIFdGo003492@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> 
> > me
> > I have read: TextFormattingRules
> > But still do not know how to paste in a chunk of text, code say, where
> > you want no bullets, not a blank line after every line, and no
> > squishing the lines together either.  Just exactly as written.
> > How?
> 
> <pre>
> ...
> </pre>
> 
> ???

Works great. thank you.
Laura


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb 14 18:51:15 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 19:51:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] PressRelease
In-Reply-To: <E16b8EN-0004nB-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <E16b8EN-0004nB-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020214185115.GA11765@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

I've given the press release an edit, straightening out and toning down
some of the language, and eliminating the implication of a Jython track
(we'll have talks on Jython, but I didn't know we had agreed on a special
track yet). I've left the whole track issue a bit less prominent, only
emphasizing the Zope track, which we'll definitely have besides the
Python stuff.

I've renamed the conference team from 'EuroPython/Zope Conference
Team' to 'EuroPython Conference Team', in the general policy of 
emphasizing Python, and in the interest of pronouncability.

Where does the 20,000 Zope developers figure come from, by the way?

I've rewritten Nicolas P's addition to:

"""
Python, Jython and Zope are maintained and enhanced in open source fashion by
an international community of programmers and companies.
"""

A native speaker of English should preferably a final check of the language
after the wiki editing stops tomorrow. After that final round of controlled
editing we can start finalizing the translations and sending out the press
release, probably early next week.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb 14 18:55:29 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 19:55:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Graphics, logos, styling, design, fonts, etc
In-Reply-To: <20020214121959.E11748@carolo.net>
References: <1013672203.3c6b690b6aafa@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020214121959.E11748@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <20020214185529.GB11765@vet.uu.nl>

Denis wrote:
> Le Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 08:36:43AM +0100, Dinu Gherman pianota:
> > Is anybody working on graphics material for EuroPython?
> > Logo, styles, etc? Is there a DesignTeam?
> 
> Since nothing is coming up to now, I've put one of our fellows
> on the matter. He will do something before the end of the day.
> (His name is Vincent Maton, he's now subscribed to the list too).

We've now got a DesignTeam responsible for these issues. Anyone interested
should add their name to this page:

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/DesignTeam

Regards,

Martijn



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Thu Feb 14 18:56:07 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 19:56:07 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <3C6BED15.AAC2616A@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202141953580.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Why not simply add the name of the people willing to
> establish the contact behind the entries ? Then, if the
> release has been sent there (which should happen early
> next week), this fact should also be noted behind the entry.
> 
> I've put the procedure on the wiki page:
> 
> 	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressReleasePress

Alastair, would you mind explaining again your nice trick about TODOs
sorted by name with the ReverseLink (was that the name) feature of the
wiki ?

Sounds like it could be useful for everyone to add that reverse-linking
stuff to their FirstnameLastname page for example. Or to a common TODO
page if it's preferred.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb 14 19:00:09 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:00:09 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Exhibitors at the EuroPython Conference
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202141220290.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <20020214020458.C11748@carolo.net> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202141220290.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020214190009.GC11765@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> > Perhaps that exhibitors could contact me directly, asking what they
> > would like to have as free area, conveniences, etc.
> 
> AS a potential exhibitor, I'd say "Small is beautiful". We would mainly
> use a booth to let people that say "Hey, I'd like to eventually meet these
> guys" actually find us and have a display with slides presenting what
> we're doing. That's one table and two chairs.

I agree we should go small. A table, or alternatively a poster with some
details about the company or their technology. A person would be standing
there explaining their technology.

We do need to decide whether these stands would be permanent or only
manned at special times where people get the opportunity to check 'm out.
If they can be in a main 'thoroughfare' where many attendees are likely
to pass frequently that'd be nice. If that is not possible, we should
create special sessions so that the attendees can go and visit the
stands.

Regards,

Martijn



From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Thu Feb 14 19:02:50 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:02:50 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] ZOPE BBQ - beehieve contact / estimates of attendees
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIECKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIECKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <1013713370.3c6c09daa8d39@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Andrew Smart <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>:

> Is there anyone from beehieve (they organize the BBQ) on this list?
> I think we could use their estimates of attendees to get a feeling, if
> they are willing to supply us with this information.

All I know is that their target groups were pure Zope users,
who more or less happend to learn that Zope was written
mostly in Python... I wouldn't expect very useful estimates,
but feel free to ask mark@beehive.de.

Dinu


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb 14 19:08:34 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:08:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <200202141212.g1ECCoGo001433@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <E16am6t-0001rw-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <200202131357.g1DDvxGo031006@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <E16b6dN-0000va-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <200202141212.g1ECCoGo001433@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020214190834.GD11765@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
[avoid the word 'Free' in press releases for marketing reasons]

I think that this is a good point, and we'll attempt to avoid giving the
word 'Free' too prominent attention.

[snip]
> > Just an idea: one approach that was adopted at the European COmmission 
> > consists to speak about libre software and explain how this temr relates to 
> > free and open-source. Could we use that formulation ?
> 
> On the Wiki, yes, great wonderful.

Okay, hereby I declare that we can also use the phrase 'Libre Software'
as an alternative for 'open source software' in some contexts.

This all fits in with my theory that we can offend RMS freely if we 
like. Now only if we could fit in the word 'communism' in there somewhere
to really offend ESR.. Perhaps 'socialism' will do. :)

[snip lots of good questions about the European Commission]

As was already said, please do set up a team for this, and run it together
with Nicolas Pettiaux and whomever else is interested. See the teams page:

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTeams

Regards,

Martijn



From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 14 19:09:54 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:09:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] PressRelease
References: <E16b8EN-0004nB-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <20020214185115.GA11765@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C6C0B82.6A0617F1@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> I've given the press release an edit, straightening out and toning down
> some of the language, and eliminating the implication of a Jython track
> (we'll have talks on Jython, but I didn't know we had agreed on a special
> track yet). I've left the whole track issue a bit less prominent, only
> emphasizing the Zope track, which we'll definitely have besides the
> Python stuff.

Looks good :-)
 
> I've renamed the conference team from 'EuroPython/Zope Conference
> Team' to 'EuroPython Conference Team', in the general policy of
> emphasizing Python, and in the interest of pronouncability.
> 
> Where does the 20,000 Zope developers figure come from, by the way?

I'd suggest to remove the quote from the text; without
empirical background they are worth all that much. BTW,
it would be an interesting project to try to figure out 
the number of Python users we have today.
 
> I've rewritten Nicolas P's addition to:
> 
> """
> Python, Jython and Zope are maintained and enhanced in open source fashion by
> an international community of programmers and companies.
> """
> 
> A native speaker of English should preferably a final check of the language
> after the wiki editing stops tomorrow. After that final round of controlled
> editing we can start finalizing the translations and sending out the press
> release, probably early next week.

Great !

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb 14 19:13:13 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:13:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython.org typo
In-Reply-To: <3C6BEDD6.E84619E6@lemburg.com>
References: <1013676686.3c6b7a8e0617b@webmail.in-berlin.de> <1013678048.3c6b7fe0093f4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6BEDD6.E84619E6@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020214191313.GE11765@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > My expectation would be around 200-300 participants.
> > Heck, this list already has already 80 members...
> 
> That number should go onto:
> 
> 	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceAttendees

I've added some commentary to that. I suspect that if we're lucky we'll
get something more in the range of 400-600 participants. The Zope attendees
may make 150-200 alone, and I am seeing more and more how big the Python
community in Europe really must be, given the fact that the list participants
are likely only to be the tip of the iceberg.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Thu Feb 14 19:14:57 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:14:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] ZOPE BBQ - beehieve contact / estimates of attendees
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIECKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIECKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020214191457.GF11765@vet.uu.nl>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> in April (11th, 12th) is the ZOPE BBQ meeting in Berlin...
> 
> Is there anyone from beehieve (they organize the BBQ) on this list?
> I think we could use their estimates of attendees to get a feeling, if they
> are willing to supply us with this information.

I'm vaguely planning to go to that BBQ meeting. I'll also contact Mark
Pratt right now.

Regards,

Martijn



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Thu Feb 14 19:20:47 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:20:47 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <20020214190834.GD11765@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202142013220.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> As was already said, please do set up a team for this, and run it together
> with Nicolas Pettiaux and whomever else is interested. See the teams page:
> 
> http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTeams

Did that : http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/EuropeanTeam

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From lac@strakt.com  Thu Feb 14 19:18:33 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:18:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: Message from Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>
 of "Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:08:34 +0100." <20020214190834.GD11765@vet.uu.nl>
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> Martijn Faassen
>
> This all fits in with my theory that we can offend RMS freely if we 
> like. Now only if we could fit in the word 'communism' in there somewhere
> to really offend ESR.. Perhaps 'socialism' will do. :)

I am organising a plan to Get Government Money.  (if I can figure out
how to make a new Wiki Page).  That should be good enough.  Now that
we have offended everybody, we had better do something to be inclusive
again.

Laura


From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 14 19:34:25 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:34:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython.org typo
References: <1013676686.3c6b7a8e0617b@webmail.in-berlin.de> <1013678048.3c6b7fe0093f4@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6BEDD6.E84619E6@lemburg.com> <20020214191313.GE11765@vet.uu.nl>
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Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > > My expectation would be around 200-300 participants.
> > > Heck, this list already has already 80 members...
> >
> > That number should go onto:
> >
> >       http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceAttendees
> 
> I've added some commentary to that. I suspect that if we're lucky we'll
> get something more in the range of 400-600 participants. The Zope attendees
> may make 150-200 alone, and I am seeing more and more how big the Python
> community in Europe really must be, given the fact that the list participants
> are likely only to be the tip of the iceberg.

Let's hope the best :-)

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 14 19:37:59 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:37:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <E16am6t-0001rw-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <200202131357.g1DDvxGo031006@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <E16b6dN-0000va-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <200202141212.g1ECCoGo001433@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>  <20020214190834.GD11765@vet.uu.nl> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <3C6C1217.BB1F8A5F@lemburg.com>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> 
> I am organising a plan to Get Government Money.  (if I can figure out
> how to make a new Wiki Page).  

Simple: 

1. edit the parent page, 

2. add a JaddaJadda formatted name to it, then, 

3. reading the parent page you'll notice a small '?' next to
   JaddaJadda. Click on that question mark and edit the text for
   the page.

That's it :-)

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Thu Feb 14 19:29:56 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 20:29:56 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] ZOPE BBQ - beehieve contact / estimates of attendees
In-Reply-To: <20020214191457.GF11765@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKECMDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

I'll be there also...

Anyone else?

Andrew


-----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
Von: europython-admin@python.org [mailto:europython-admin@python.org]Im
Auftrag von Martijn Faassen
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Februar 2002 20:15
An: Andrew Smart
Cc: Europython
Betreff: Re: [EuroPython] ZOPE BBQ - beehieve contact / estimates of
attendees


Andrew Smart wrote:
> in April (11th, 12th) is the ZOPE BBQ meeting in Berlin...
>
> Is there anyone from beehieve (they organize the BBQ) on this list?
> I think we could use their estimates of attendees to get a feeling, if
they
> are willing to supply us with this information.

I'm vaguely planning to go to that BBQ meeting. I'll also contact Mark
Pratt right now.

Regards,

Martijn


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From burt@dfki.de  Thu Feb 14 20:57:15 2002
From: burt@dfki.de (Alastair Burt)
Date: 14 Feb 2002 21:57:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202141953580.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202141953580.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <vgit8zu6hg.fsf@mastiff.dfki.uni-sb.de>

Nicolas Chauvat <Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr> writes:

> Alastair, would you mind explaining again your nice trick about TODOs
> sorted by name with the ReverseLink (was that the name) feature of the
> wiki ?

They seem to be called *backlinks*. And the trick is you sprinkle NicoToDo
strings around the web site and create a Wiki page of that name that may as
well remain empty. When you go to that page you will see NicoToDo in a
large font at the top. Click it and a personal todo list will magically
appear before your eyes. Your goal is to do your stuff, remove the NicoToDo
strings as you go and reduce that list to nothing.

--- Alastair=20

--=20
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----
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German Centre for AI (DFKI), Stuhlsatzenhausweg 3
Saarbr=FCcken 66123, Germany=20=09=09=09=09=09=09
Email: burt@dfki.de
Tel: +49 681 302 2565
Fax: +49 681 302 2235



From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Thu Feb 14 23:39:36 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 00:39:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython.org typo
In-Reply-To: <3C6C1141.16BD64B@lemburg.com>
References: <1013676686.3c6b7a8e0617b@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020214191313.GE11765@vet.uu.nl> <3C6C1141.16BD64B@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <E16bVTV-0006v3-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Jeudi 14 F=E9vrier 2002 20:34, M.-A. Lemburg a =E9crit :
> > I've added some commentary to that. I suspect that if we're lucky we'=
ll
> > get something more in the range of 400-600 participants. The Zope
> > attendees may make 150-200 alone, and I am seeing more and more how b=
ig
> > the Python community in Europe really must be, given the fact that th=
e
> > list participants are likely only to be the tip of the iceberg.
>
> Let's hope the best :-)

Yes. I suppose 200-300 and maybe wrong by a factr of 2 is a godd estimate=
=2E

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From denis@aragne.com  Thu Feb 14 23:57:15 2002
From: denis@aragne.com (Denis)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 00:57:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Offer: publishing contact
In-Reply-To: <20020214141749.G49973@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <1013687659.3c6ba56b1ee63@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020214141749.G49973@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <20020215005715.A24816@carolo.net>

Le Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 02:17:49PM +0100, Stefane Fermigier pianota:
> On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 12:54:19PM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > His general attitude is roughly this: Python hasn't quite 
> > taken off in France, and definitly not with Pearson books.
> > [...]
> 
> Isn't New Riders / SAMS part of Pearson ? (I think so).

Not sure for New Riders, sure for SAMS. They took over CampusPress last
year. 

If it can help : I translated the book "L'Intro Python" that's Ivan
Van Laningham's "Python in 24 hours" (SAM's Publishing). 
I've to admit it was not the best book about Python.

> Anyway, I can contact the person in France (I may even pehaps already
> know him/her).

Tell him that with the fee I got for that translation, they should have
some money left ! ;-)
And they still owe me 10 books...

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From Samuele Pedroni" <pedroni@inf.ethz.ch  Thu Feb 14 18:52:10 2002
From: Samuele Pedroni" <pedroni@inf.ethz.ch (Samuele Pedroni)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2002 19:52:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] more Jython ;)
References: <20020213155503.GA4234@vet.uu.nl> <3C6AB5C8.AB5DEDC@lemburg.com>  <20020213204649.GA7287@vet.uu.nl>  <200202132052.g1DKqwGo000764@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <023a01c1b588$b5d501e0$6d94fea9@newmexico>

Hi,

I'm the other Jython hacker with a .ch domain.

Finn Bock has contacted me.

All I can say for the moment is that
I reasonably plan to attend.

regards, Samuele Pedroni.

    *
www.jython.org
www.oreilly.com/catalog/jythoness
sf.net/projects/jrgp



From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Fri Feb 15 00:07:19 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 01:07:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Ok, back
Message-ID: <038001c1b5b4$bda236f0$358d84d5@skullsplitter>

Woops, I forgot that today was valentine... luckely I could manage to buy
something... but this means I still haven't done anything on braking up the
website into parts... anyway perhaps better to talk about this first... Lets
all who want to talk, talk... :

1. Although I'm not used to ZPT, I'm in favor doing it this way... are there
people having objectives to ZPT?
2. Are there people who are used at developing CSS? If so, is it possible to
make a quick one, which can be used during development and which one
contains most thingies (but doesn't have to be final). Could it be done
before saterday? I would like to make a very preliminary thing on which we
than can build further.
3. I don't think the site has to be really eye-catching. The most important
thing is:

-all the needed must be there and it must be easely found.

4. Personally I like the Python10 site (information) and the OpenOffice
(nice simple layout) site...
5. We need to make entries for sure:

* Where it takes place, how to get there, ...
* Hotels, How to get to the congress.
* Conference Schedules
* Speakers
* News section (really needed?)
* Subscription section
* Section to send the abstracts by email?
* Sponsors
* Organisators/ Contact Persons

Mmmm... shouldn't be that hard I guess...

Tom.





From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Fri Feb 15 00:10:27 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 01:10:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Offer: publishing contact
References: <1013687659.3c6ba56b1ee63@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020214141749.G49973@math.jussieu.fr> <20020215005715.A24816@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <039d01c1b5b5$2c9ab910$358d84d5@skullsplitter>

Mmmm, I can try to ask publishers...

Although all in America, I've worked (working) for IDG, New Riders and SAMS.

Perhaps they can give me some contact persons in Europe.

Tom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Denis" <denis@aragne.com>
To: "Stefane Fermigier" <sf@fermigier.com>
Cc: "EuroPython" <europython@python.org>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 12:57 AM
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Offer: publishing contact


> Le Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 02:17:49PM +0100, Stefane Fermigier pianota:
> > On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 12:54:19PM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > > His general attitude is roughly this: Python hasn't quite
> > > taken off in France, and definitly not with Pearson books.
> > > [...]
> >
> > Isn't New Riders / SAMS part of Pearson ? (I think so).
>
> Not sure for New Riders, sure for SAMS. They took over CampusPress last
> year.
>
> If it can help : I translated the book "L'Intro Python" that's Ivan
> Van Laningham's "Python in 24 hours" (SAM's Publishing).
> I've to admit it was not the best book about Python.
>
> > Anyway, I can contact the person in France (I may even pehaps already
> > know him/her).
>
> Tell him that with the fee I got for that translation, they should have
> some money left ! ;-)
> And they still owe me 10 books...
>
> Denis
>
> --
> Denis FRERE
> P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
> OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org
> Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com
>
> _______________________________________________
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> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 01:27:05 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 02:27:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] YAPC experiences (forwarded)
Message-ID: <20020215012705.GA13546@vet.uu.nl>

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Hi there,

I find the attached interesting for consideration of the EuroPython
group (it was posted to the python conferences list, which was newly
opened and seems to be catering to a largely North American audience
for Python conferences so far.)

Anyway, the YAPC approach seems to be quite similar to our own, so
we may learn something there.

Regards,

Martijn


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On Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 10:23:37AM -0800, Aahz Maruch wrote:
> My take is that what we're seeing is the result of consensus that we
> want something kind of like YAPC, and we're treading water while we wait
> for Guido to tell us what YAS wants from us to get moving.

Speaking with my YAS hat on...

YAPC has always been a self-organizing event.  That's the way we created
it, that's the way we wanted it, that's the way it's worked for us.
Furthermore, the model has been repeatedly successful -- at least for
our community, filling our expectations and suiting our needs.

The recipe is actually quite simple:

	Assume you'll get enough content.  (Hasn't been a problem so far)
	Find a venue that provides:
		enough room for the attendees
		enough room for all of the concurrent tracks
		basic power, projector, etc.
		ethernet
	Add catering
		breakfast
		beverages and such at break
		lunch (or proximity to lunch)
		dinner (or proximity to dinner)
	Handle lodging, transportation, etc.
		proximity to hotels, group discounts if possible
		should be close to typical transit hubs
	Add frills
		proceedings
		802.11b conference area network
		badges
		tshirts
		tote bags / lanyards / swag / etc.

These issues need to be tackled in pretty much this order.  I
neglected to mention budgetary issues.  Part of that is because
the low-cost aspect of YAPC is an integral part to how we define
it; sponsorship has been a fundemental aspect of any YAPC, with
sponsors providing the funds for proceedings, some of the catering, etc.

How do we choose a location?  Simple:

	A host committee puts together a rough proposal that covers
	the basic requirements (venue, catering, lodging, etc.)

	The best proposal is chosen

	The site is announced

For YAPC, the selection of "best proposal" incorporates total cost for
the event, cost to the attendee, and proximity to dorms/cheap student
lodging.  Location is a factor in that we want to bring Perl events to
those who can't get to California easily/cheaply for OSCON.  We also
want to keep the conference cost at or below US$100 for a three day event.


Now, with all of that out of the way, what does YAS want?  First
off, we're not offering to take over the role of conference organizer
(i.e. Fortec); we're more interested in community building.  If
the Python community wants to organize a conference (YAPC like or
otherwise), we're happy to fill the role of facilitator and bring
our experience to the table[*].  Most of the work would need
to be done on a volunteer basis though -- the program committee,
editing and formatting of the proceedings (if produced), the
registration table, liasons with the host facility, etc.

But what does YAS need in order to help put a Python event together?

The first and most important thing all of us need (Pythonistas and YAS)
is a clear idea of the expectations and requirements for this conference.

	If Pythonistas are used to paying upwards of $1000 in
	conference fees, is $250/3 days acceptable, or is the goal
	to meet the YAS model of $100/3 days?

	What are the expectations in terms of the number concurrent tracks?
	Number of presentations?  Number of tutorials?

	How important is low-cost student accomodation?

	Is there a good time of year, or is facility availability
	a driving factor?

	Can someone use their contacts at a university?  Do they want
	to volunteer as a liason?  Do they want to make an introduction?

	Is this the One and Only International Python Conference,
	or is this a small regional conference?  Are both
	required/necessary/desirable?

	How does this fit into plans for Python/Zope tracks at the
	O'Reilly conference?

Just a few ideas to chew on,

Z.

*: YAS has done registration for YAPCs in the past.  No reason why
   this couldn't be done for a Python conference as well.


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From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 01:46:33 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 02:46:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Exhibitors at the EuroPython Conference
In-Reply-To: <20020214020458.C11748@carolo.net>
References: <E16aacP-0002wZ-00@mail.python.org> <3C695066.1308E6A5@openstepnews.com> <3C6A3CE4.B620E986@lemburg.com> <200202131807.g1DI73Go032625@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020213183110.GA6281@vet.uu.nl> <20020214020458.C11748@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <20020215014633.GA13798@vet.uu.nl>

Denis wrote:
> Le Wed, Feb 13, 2002 at 07:31:10PM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> > Laura Creighton wrote:
> > > AB Strakt wants exhibition space.
> > 
> > We need an ExhibitionTeam, so I've added one. Add your name to it if you
> > want to help puzzle this out. Denis Frere is our expert on the 
> > conference grounds, so perhaps he should pop in and say something about
> > the possibilities.
> 
> Well, I've been in that building and I think it's big enough for our
> conference. Now, I should have to go there again and have a new look in
> regard of all what's been discussed on this list.
> (At first, I tought it would be a great Python fair ; now, I sometimes
> fear it would become a BigIT-Expo. But I don't want to refrain your
> enthousiasm during what I think is still a brainstorming, so I prefer
> to keep silent until real decisions will be made).

We don't want to become BigIT Expo with huge booths and such. What we want
is a way in which relatively small geekish companies can show off to
everybody what they are doing. As was mentioned before, you need a table
or a poster and a computer somewhere. Internet access would be nice.

> Let me a few days to manage a jump down there. I'll take some bigger 
> pictures if you want to have a better view. Today, I'm looking at the
> http://www.ceme.be/en/sallea.htm page and I'm still thinking there is
> place enough : for example, there is a nice rotunda (so says my
> dictionary) big enough for small booths. 

Thanks for scouting this out. I'm sure there's sufficient space.
> 
> It depends on what exhibitors want exactly.
> 
> I guess I should join the ExhibitionTeam, SponsoringTeam or whatever
> you'd like to name it (yes, I think ExhibitionTeam should be a bit
> clarified).

Yup, add yourself to the ExhibitionTeam. The Sponsoring/Financial stuff
is another thing in my mind, though of course sponsoring and the
right to exhibit may be connected to make it more likely people will
sponsor us. :)

> Perhaps that exhibitors could contact me directly, asking what they
> would like to have as free area, conveniences, etc.

I think we should start with the wiki page and work from that. If 
there are any exhibitors that need privacy or have very special concerns
about the building themselves, feel free to contact Denis directly, of course.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 01:49:24 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 02:49:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] more Jython ;)
In-Reply-To: <023a01c1b588$b5d501e0$6d94fea9@newmexico>
References: <20020213155503.GA4234@vet.uu.nl> <3C6AB5C8.AB5DEDC@lemburg.com> <20020213204649.GA7287@vet.uu.nl> <200202132052.g1DKqwGo000764@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <023a01c1b588$b5d501e0$6d94fea9@newmexico>
Message-ID: <20020215014924.GB13798@vet.uu.nl>

Samuele Pedroni wrote:
> I'm the other Jython hacker with a .ch domain.
> 
> Finn Bock has contacted me.
> 
> All I can say for the moment is that
> I reasonably plan to attend.

Sounds great! If you can Finn can work out some interesting talks/sessions
for Jython that'd make us very happy -- we're already listing Jython
specifically in the press release, so we'll have to have something now. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 01:52:14 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 02:52:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] ZOPE BBQ - beehieve contact / estimates of attendees
In-Reply-To: <1013713370.3c6c09daa8d39@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIECKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013713370.3c6c09daa8d39@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020215015214.GC13798@vet.uu.nl>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> Andrew Smart <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>:
> 
> > Is there anyone from beehieve (they organize the BBQ) on this list?
> > I think we could use their estimates of attendees to get a feeling, if
> > they are willing to supply us with this information.
> 
> All I know is that their target groups were pure Zope users,
> who more or less happend to learn that Zope was written
> mostly in Python... I wouldn't expect very useful estimates,
> but feel free to ask mark@beehive.de.

We can expect we'll get quite a few of that target group showing up though,
which is why we're organizing a Zope track. How many people will show up
for that is quite a useful estimate all by itself. 

Note also that Mark Pratt has mentioned in the past he was interested
in organizing a Python event, so I'm really hoping he'd like to contribute
to EuroPython's organization.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 01:55:17 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 02:55:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <E16am6t-0001rw-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <200202131357.g1DDvxGo031006@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <E16b6dN-0000va-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <200202141212.g1ECCoGo001433@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020214190834.GD11765@vet.uu.nl> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> > Martijn Faassen
> >
> > This all fits in with my theory that we can offend RMS freely if we 
> > like. Now only if we could fit in the word 'communism' in there somewhere
> > to really offend ESR.. Perhaps 'socialism' will do. :)
> 
> I am organising a plan to Get Government Money.  (if I can figure out
> how to make a new Wiki Page).  That should be good enough.  Now that
> we have offended everybody, we had better do something to be inclusive
> again.

Oh, right, I'd forgotten about the evil socialist government money!
Besides, Denis told us that the socialists are the main party in power in
Charleroi, and they're sponsoring the venue already. Okay, we've got
ESR fully covered! (though he may say all the tax money we can
get back from the evil government is only good for everybody, but
that's a cop-out :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 02:05:03 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 03:05:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Ok, back
In-Reply-To: <038001c1b5b4$bda236f0$358d84d5@skullsplitter>
References: <038001c1b5b4$bda236f0$358d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <20020215020503.GE13798@vet.uu.nl>

Tom Deprez wrote:
[snip]
> 1. Although I'm not used to ZPT, I'm in favor doing it this way... are there
> people having objectives to ZPT?

ZPT's fine with me, but no objections to DTML. Infrae (Kit and I :) have
been switching our development from DTML to ZPT in the last few months
and we noticed getting the hang of it happened very quickly.

> 2. Are there people who are used at developing CSS? If so, is it possible to
> make a quick one, which can be used during development and which one
> contains most thingies (but doesn't have to be final).

I can ask Kit here. I'll let you know tomorrow.

> Could it be done before saterday? I would like to make a very preliminary
> thing on which we than can build further.

Up to you guys. :)

> 3. I don't think the site has to be really eye-catching. The most important
> thing is:
> 
> -all the needed must be there and it must be easely found.

Agreed. It just needs to look nice and clean.

> 5. We need to make entries for sure:
> 
> * Where it takes place, how to get there, ...
> * Hotels, How to get to the congress.
> * Conference Schedules
> * Speakers
> * News section (really needed?)
> * Subscription section
> * Section to send the abstracts by email?
> * Sponsors
> * Organisators/ Contact Persons

By next week I expect some of our wiki pages will be cooked enough to
start moving over the text into the website proper. The PR team and associated
chaff like me should be the ones determining what is ready for publication,
though of course help from you (like this list above) is gladly accepted.

Anyway, we'll let you (the web people) know what material we have ready.
Since it's in the wiki it'll be structured text already, so if you could
make the pages work with that we can move quickly.

The texts that will ready first will be the general information about
the conference (press release and other information). Afterwards I think
we should start running simple news items ("Christian Tismer will speak
about stackless!") to make people excited. After a while we should 
have some forms ready and will move on to accepting submissions for
abstracts and finally (pre) registrations.

How does that sound?

Thanks,

Martijn



From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Fri Feb 15 05:31:01 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 06:31:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Ok, back
In-Reply-To: <20020215020503.GE13798@vet.uu.nl>
References: <038001c1b5b4$bda236f0$358d84d5@skullsplitter> <20020215020503.GE13798@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <E16baxb-0008At-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Vendredi 15 F=E9vrier 2002 03:05, Martijn Faassen a =E9crit :
> Tom Deprez wrote:
> [snip]
>
> > 1. Although I'm not used to ZPT, I'm in favor doing it this way... ar=
e
> > there people having objectives to ZPT?
>
> ZPT's fine with me, but no objections to DTML. Infrae (Kit and I :) hav=
e
> been switching our development from DTML to ZPT in the last few months
> and we noticed getting the hang of it happened very quickly.

NO idea, but the one that I also want to learn about ZPT

> > 2. Are there people who are used at developing CSS? If so, is it poss=
ible
> > to make a quick one, which can be used during development and which o=
ne
> > contains most thingies (but doesn't have to be final).
>
> I can ask Kit here. I'll let you know tomorrow.
>
> > Could it be done before saterday? I would like to make a very prelimi=
nary
> > thing on which we than can build further.
>
> Up to you guys. :)
>
> > 3. I don't think the site has to be really eye-catching. The most
> > important thing is:
> >
> > -all the needed must be there and it must be easely found.

> Agreed. It just needs to look nice and clean.

Exactely

> > 5. We need to make entries for sure:
> >
> > * Where it takes place, how to get there, ...
> > * Hotels, How to get to the congress.
> > * Conference Schedules
> > * Speakers
> > * News section (really needed?)
> > * Subscription section
> > * Section to send the abstracts by email?
> > * Sponsors
> > * Organisators/ Contact Persons

> By next week I expect some of our wiki pages will be cooked enough to
> start moving over the text into the website proper.=20

Yes, much of this material already exist in the wiki

> The PR team and
> associated chaff like me should be the ones determining what is ready f=
or
> publication, though of course help from you (like this list above) is
> gladly accepted.

I did not find the PRteam in the wiki . I propose to be one of them.

Agree
=20
> Anyway, we'll let you (the web people) know what material we have ready=
=2E
> Since it's in the wiki it'll be structured text already, so if you coul=
d
> make the pages work with that we can move quickly.
>
> The texts that will ready first will be the general information about
> the conference (press release and other information). Afterwards I thin=
k
> we should start running simple news items ("Christian Tismer will speak
> about stackless!") to make people excited. After a while we should
> have some forms ready and will move on to accepting submissions for
> abstracts and finally (pre) registrations.

> How does that sound?

very well

Please not that I'll be away for 3 days (not next to any computer) and th=
e=20
then I'll be extremely busy on Tuesday and Wednesday with conferences, so=
=20
I'll probably be back somehow only next thursday.

Take care and work well.

Thanks,

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be  Fri Feb 15 05:48:54 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 06:48:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Vendredi 15 F=E9vrier 2002 02:55, Martijn Faassen a =E9crit :
> Laura Creighton wrote:
> > > Martijn Faassen
> > >
> > > This all fits in with my theory that we can offend RMS freely if we
> > > like. Now only if we could fit in the word 'communism' in there
> > > somewhere to really offend ESR.. Perhaps 'socialism' will do. :)
> >
> > I am organising a plan to Get Government Money.  (if I can figure out
> > how to make a new Wiki Page). =20

very good idea. I have some contacts at the EU and besides I am in Brusse=
ls.=20
We could coordinate this (publically through the list) and exchange the=20
contacts (privately with the SponsorTeam)=20

As I am ICT manager in a large administration, implied in some EU finance=
d=20
projects, I plan to also try and get some money from there.

> That should be good enough.  Now that
> > we have offended everybody, we had better do something to be inclusiv=
e
> > again.

> Oh, right, I'd forgotten about the evil socialist government money!

Yes, please let us remember that !

> Besides, Denis told us that the socialists are the main party in power =
in
> Charleroi, and they're sponsoring the venue already. Okay, we've got
> ESR fully covered! (though he may say all the tax money we can
> get back from the evil government is only good for everybody, but
> that's a cop-out :)

Just a note about something everyone doesn't knwo in the list:

there is an REALLY increasing perception within the Belgian Socialist par=
ty=20
that free software (and they insist on the freedom side they understand ,=
 not=20
caring about open source pragmatic approach they do not understand becaus=
e=20
they are not in the IT field) is good for education and public=20
administration.=20

This, as far as I understood, was the key selling factor Denis used to ge=
t=20
the CEME place and the whole committement by the city of Charleroi.

I am afraid that should we forget that, would they not be pleased.

For example, some people in the city of Charleroi are considering to star=
t a=20
specific education program about free software, in order to educate peopl=
e=20
and put them back to work in the IT field through free software.

THis does NOT mean that accepting any OSI licence is not good for us (not=
=20
everyone is as consciuous as the socialists) but it is needed to know I=20
suppose.


>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Association =E9lectronique libre pour la promotion des=20
droits de l'Homme dans la Soci=E9t=E9 de l'information (AEL) -
www.ael.be=20


From nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be  Fri Feb 15 05:55:22 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 06:55:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <20020214190834.GD11765@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141212.g1ECCoGo001433@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020214190834.GD11765@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <E16bbL9-0000Hw-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Jeudi 14 F=E9vrier 2002 20:08, Martijn Faassen a =E9crit :
> Laura Creighton wrote:
> [avoid the word 'Free' in press releases for marketing reasons]
>
> I think that this is a good point, and we'll attempt to avoid giving th=
e
> word 'Free' too prominent attention.

OK

> [snip]
>
> > > Just an idea: one approach that was adopted at the European COmmiss=
ion
> > > consists to speak about libre software and explain how this temr
> > > relates to free and open-source. Could we use that formulation ?
> >
> > On the Wiki, yes, great wonderful.
>
> Okay, hereby I declare that we can also use the phrase 'Libre Software'
> as an alternative for 'open source software' in some contexts.

good (see my post of this morning regarding government money and socialis=
m)

> As was already said, please do set up a team for this, and run it toget=
her
> with Nicolas Pettiaux and whomever else is interested. See the teams pa=
ge:
>
> http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTeams

OK for me

Thanks,

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Association =E9lectronique libre pour la promotion des=20
droits de l'Homme dans la Soci=E9t=E9 de l'information (AEL) -
www.ael.be=20


From nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be  Fri Feb 15 05:56:00 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 06:56:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] send out press release
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202141323420.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202141323420.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <E16bbLl-0000IG-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Jeudi 14 F=E9vrier 2002 13:24, Nicolas Chauvat a =E9crit :
> > I want to leave the Commission with the idea that the python communit=
y
> > is a great place to spend money.  WHo is in charge of that, and
> > what can we do to help?
>
> Open up a page on the wiki that sums up what you just said :-)

good idea

NicolasP

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Association =E9lectronique libre pour la promotion des=20
droits de l'Homme dans la Soci=E9t=E9 de l'information (AEL) -
www.ael.be=20


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Fri Feb 15 07:37:11 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 08:37:11 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] ZOPE BBQ - beehieve contact / estimates of attendees
In-Reply-To: <20020215015214.GC13798@vet.uu.nl>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIECKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013713370.3c6c09daa8d39@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215015214.GC13798@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <1013758631.3c6cbaa70be32@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>:

> Note also that Mark Pratt has mentioned in the past he was interested
> in organizing a Python event, so I'm really hoping he'd like to
> contribute to EuroPython's organization.

I know, but again, don't expect too much. Beehive is a purely
commercial place following its own interests. I'd love to see
them participate but after several chats with Mark I'm skeptical.

Dinu


From all@123piano.com  Fri Feb 15 08:14:24 2002
From: all@123piano.com (Philippe Jadin)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:14:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Graphics, logos, styling, design, fonts, etc
References: <1013672203.3c6b690b6aafa@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020214121959.E11748@carolo.net> <20020214185529.GB11765@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C6CC360.3020808@123piano.com>

I hade some spare time last night so I did a little layout, feel free to 
take inspiration from it :

http://www.123piano.com/europython/layout01.gif
http://www.123piano.com/europython/layout02.gif

nothing fancy, maybe just a start...

(vector file available if anyone is interested)

It could easily be htmlified

Philippe

Martijn Faassen wrote:

>Denis wrote:
>
>>Le Thu, Feb 14, 2002 at 08:36:43AM +0100, Dinu Gherman pianota:
>>
>>>Is anybody working on graphics material for EuroPython?
>>>Logo, styles, etc? Is there a DesignTeam?
>>>
>>Since nothing is coming up to now, I've put one of our fellows
>>on the matter. He will do something before the end of the day.
>>(His name is Vincent Maton, he's now subscribed to the list too).
>>
>
>We've now got a DesignTeam responsible for these issues. Anyone interested
>should add their name to this page:
>
>http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/DesignTeam
>
>Regards,
>
>Martijn
>





From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Fri Feb 15 08:19:29 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:19:29 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <1013761169.3c6cc49180c1e@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux@ael.be>:

> > Laura Creighton wrote:
> > > >
> > > I am organising a plan to Get Government Money.  (if I can figure
> > > out how to make a new Wiki Page).  
> 
> very good idea. I have some contacts at the EU and besides I am in
> Brussels. We could coordinate this (publically through the list) and 
> exchange the contacts (privately with the SponsorTeam) 

I'd love to see that happen, but without trying to dampen your
enthusiasm: have you tried before to pull some money out
of these bodies? I know people who did, and I know it is
pretty tough (unless you want a few hundred million euros).

The EU has a huge complex bureaucratic fund application 
system with many sources of money that you're almost un-
able to spot without professional support and it will certainly 
give you only a quarter of what you need and mostly only a 
year *after* you need it. There are forms with deadlines and if
you write one letter outside of some allowed field by mistake 
your application failed!

What is maybe the most annoying of all: there is absolutely 
no way to predict when you will receive something, how much,
or why you didn't get anything as the internal guidelines change
every few months in very intransparent ways.

Hope this doesn't sound too frustrated, but at least you should
know about the challenges ahead... ;-)

Regards,

Dinu


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Fri Feb 15 08:34:03 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:34:03 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Graphics, logos, styling, design, fonts, etc
In-Reply-To: <3C6CC360.3020808@123piano.com>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEDCDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>


>I hade some spare time last night so I did a little layout, feel free to
>take inspiration from it :
>
>http://www.123piano.com/europython/layout01.gif
>http://www.123piano.com/europython/layout02.gif

Looks good... Are you working on a logo also? I have a designer which owes
me a job, so she could work on a logo...

Andrew




From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb 15 11:19:39 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:19:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
>=20
> Le Vendredi 15 F=E9vrier 2002 02:55, Martijn Faassen a =E9crit :
> > Laura Creighton wrote:
> > > I am organising a plan to Get Government Money.  (if I can figure o=
ut
> > > how to make a new Wiki Page).
>=20
> very good idea. I have some contacts at the EU and besides I am in Brus=
sels.
> We could coordinate this (publically through the list) and exchange the
> contacts (privately with the SponsorTeam)

Indeed. Say, is there a lobby in the EU for OSS ?

> Just a note about something everyone doesn't knwo in the list:
>=20
> there is an REALLY increasing perception within the Belgian Socialist p=
arty
> that free software (and they insist on the freedom side they understand=
 , not
> caring about open source pragmatic approach they do not understand beca=
use
> they are not in the IT field) is good for education and public
> administration.

OSI compliant have the "free" built-in... at least as far as money
is concerned. What definition of "free" do they have in mind ?
=20
> This, as far as I understood, was the key selling factor Denis used to =
get
> the CEME place and the whole committement by the city of Charleroi.
>=20
> I am afraid that should we forget that, would they not be pleased.
>=20
> For example, some people in the city of Charleroi are considering to st=
art a
> specific education program about free software, in order to educate peo=
ple
> and put them back to work in the IT field through free software.
>=20
> THis does NOT mean that accepting any OSI licence is not good for us (n=
ot
> everyone is as consciuous as the socialists) but it is needed to know I
> suppose.

Let's educate them at the conference. Perhaps we could have a talk
summarizing all the different models in the business track ?!

--=20
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  Fri Feb 15 11:30:23 2002
From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 11:30:23 -0000
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>
References: <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <80915079.1013772623@[192.168.1.2]>


--On 15 February 2002 12:19 +0100 "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com> wrote:

> Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
>>
>> Le Vendredi 15 F=E9vrier 2002 02:55, Martijn Faassen a =E9crit :
>> > Laura Creighton wrote:
>> > > I am organising a plan to Get Government Money.  (if I can figure =
out
>> > > how to make a new Wiki Page).
>>
>> very good idea. I have some contacts at the EU and besides I am in
>> Brussels. We could coordinate this (publically through the list) and
>> exchange the contacts (privately with the SponsorTeam)
>
> Indeed. Say, is there a lobby in the EU for OSS ?

It's an interesting space to watch. Wasn't a French minister
recently singing the praises of OSS?

There are signs that the
British Government's apparent love affair with Microsoft is
starting to cool following the publication of two papers for
consultation:

http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=3D429
http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=3D430

(And yes, don't use Netscape 4 or you can't see the pages.
Open government or what?)

Paul

--
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   E-mail: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  URL: http://www.bris.ac.uk/



From bh@intevation.de  Fri Feb 15 12:05:19 2002
From: bh@intevation.de (Bernhard Herzog)
Date: 15 Feb 2002 13:05:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr>
 <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
 <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl>
 <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
 <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <6qadubq7b4.fsf@abnoba.intevation.de>

"M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com> writes:

> Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> > 
> > very good idea. I have some contacts at the EU and besides I am in Brussels.
> > We could coordinate this (publically through the list) and exchange the
> > contacts (privately with the SponsorTeam)
> 
> Indeed. Say, is there a lobby in the EU for OSS ?

The EU is actively funding free software. See e.g.
http://www.cordis.lu/ist/ka4/tesss/impl_free.htm#eighth :

   It is encouraged to consider implementation of middleware and tools
   as Open Source software.

and 

   In 2001, there was a dedicated action line "Free Software Development:
   Toward critical mass" with two objectives :

       (i) To foster in Europe a critical mass of development of free
           software released under GPL-compatible licenses.

       (ii) To make available European based support services for free
           software projects.


Aynbody interested in EU + Free Software might want to go to FOSDEM in
Brussels this weekend. There'll be a talk by Philippe Aigrain about
this, IIRC.


   Bernhard

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From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Fri Feb 15 12:11:36 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:11:36 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202151310120.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> OSI compliant have the "free" built-in... at least as far as money
> is concerned. What definition of "free" do they have in mind ?

I suppose it is free as in "Not to being tied with a particular vendor or
supplier and ask anyone to modify it if you happen to need to".

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Fri Feb 15 12:18:53 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:18:53 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <vgit8zu6hg.fsf@mastiff.dfki.uni-sb.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202150947520.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> They seem to be called *backlinks*. And the trick is you sprinkle NicoToDo
> strings around the web site and create a Wiki page of that name that may as
> well remain empty. When you go to that page you will see NicoToDo in a
> large font at the top. Click it and a personal todo list will magically
> appear before your eyes. Your goal is to do your stuff, remove the NicoToDo
> strings as you go and reduce that list to nothing.

Thanks.

So here is what I did :

1. add a list of people (http://www.europython.org/wiki/ListOfPeople)

2. tried to reparent people names to that item, by I didn't have a
   login/password

3. took the items from ToBeDone and added SomeOneToDo tags in actual pages
describing the thing.

There are more tags to add though.

Try www.europython.org/wiki/AndrewSmart and click on list of things to do
for an example. You'll see that he has to provide a logo as his
participation to the DesignTeam.

Back to other work :-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)






From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb 15 12:32:25 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:32:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202151310120.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <3C6CFFD9.F2F2BF6A@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> 
> > OSI compliant have the "free" built-in... at least as far as money
> > is concerned. What definition of "free" do they have in mind ?
> 
> I suppose it is free as in "Not to being tied with a particular vendor or
> supplier and ask anyone to modify it if you happen to need to".

And that's just what the term "Open Source" establishes:

	http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.html

Looks like some talk about this would be worth having :-) 

[they even have translations of the OSI definition in all EU 
languages, now that should convince them it's a good thing ;-)]

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr  Fri Feb 15 13:00:52 2002
From: hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr (Konrad Hinsen)
Date: 15 Feb 2002 14:00:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <80915079.1013772623@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>
 <80915079.1013772623@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <m3g042hpbv.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>

Paul Browning <paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk> writes:

> It's an interesting space to watch. Wasn't a French minister
> recently singing the praises of OSS?

I don't remember, but OpenSource is a topic of discussion in the
French parliament, as it is in Germany, by the way. But it seems that
all those activities remain at the stage of showing interest, without
actuall adopting OpenSource programs for government/parliament work.

> http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=429
> http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=430
> 
> (And yes, don't use Netscape 4 or you can't see the pages.
> Open government or what?)

I can read the PDF versions running Opera 5 under Linux. What's
the problem with Netscape 4?

Konrad.
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From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Fri Feb 15 13:28:24 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:28:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release, german translation
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEDGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

I'll get a german translation for the press release in the next hour.
Since there have been changes from the time I catched it from the site I
need to do a little editing. How can I see the diff beetween the two english
versions?

Hey, nice thing with the ToDoList :-)

The logo is "under construction" :-))

Andrew



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Fri Feb 15 13:30:25 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:30:25 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <3C6CFFD9.F2F2BF6A@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202151427090.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> And that's just what the term "Open Source" establishes:
> 
> 	http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.html
> 
> Looks like some talk about this would be worth having :-) 

Yeah, but that's not what I meant, so I guess if we can't even settle on a
definition ourselves, we'll need a talk/place to explain it cleanly to the
outside world during the conference.

Argh, I meant not to participate in that thread about license and somehow
posted an answer anyway... back to work :-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 13:30:25 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:30:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Ok, back
In-Reply-To: <E16baxb-0008At-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <038001c1b5b4$bda236f0$358d84d5@skullsplitter> <20020215020503.GE13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16baxb-0008At-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020215133025.GA15389@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> > The PR team and
> > associated chaff like me should be the ones determining what is ready for
> > publication, though of course help from you (like this list above) is
> > gladly accepted.
> 
> I did not find the PRteam in the wiki . I propose to be one of them.

I see you likely found them:

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PublicRelationsTeam

Regards,

Martijn



From lac@strakt.com  Fri Feb 15 13:31:37 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:31:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: Message from Dinu Gherman <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de>
 of "Fri, 15 Feb 2002 09:19:29 +0100." <1013761169.3c6cc49180c1e@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>  <1013761169.3c6cc49180c1e@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <200202151331.g1FDVcGo005097@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

Yes. AB Strakt has lots of experience getting money out of such
bodies.  Jacob Hall=E9n had that as sort of a full time job for a few
years before becoming one of the founders here.  Some of the rest of
us have done it before as well. One of the reasons we at AB Strakt are
developing our product is to make this process _easier_ (EVENTUALLY --
don't ask for help now, our very first release is still months away,
and the first target to organise is 'a small university' (i.e. ours),
not 'everybody who want to get money from the Commission'). But that
is our eventual target. We know all about the paperwork, the change =

document tracking, and the like.

The only difficulty is time. The Commission does not move quickly.  I =

like a years lead time between (I want the money) and (I start to get it).
Sometimes that is not long enough.  Also, nobody at AB Strakt has much in =

the way of free time.  I really wish you guys had told me sooner ...

Laura=


From lac@strakt.com  Fri Feb 15 13:34:48 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:34:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: Message from Laura Creighton <lac@strakt.com>
 of "Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:31:37 +0100." <200202151331.g1FDVcGo005097@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <1013761169.3c6cc49180c1e@webmail.in-berlin.de>  <200202151331.g1FDVcGo005097@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <200202151334.g1FDYmGo005120@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> Me:
> The only difficulty is time. The Commission does not move quickly.  I 
> like a years lead time between (I want the money) and (I start to get it).
> Sometimes that is not long enough.  Also, nobody at AB Strakt has much in 
> the way of free time.  I really wish you guys had told me sooner ...

That should be a year between 'wanting' and 'getting approval'.  'Getting
the cash in the bank account' is something that takes even longer ...

Laura


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 13:40:31 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:40:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020215134031.GB15389@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
[snip snip]
> Just a note about something everyone doesn't knwo in the list:
> 
> there is an REALLY increasing perception within the Belgian Socialist party 
> that free software (and they insist on the freedom side they understand , not 
> caring about open source pragmatic approach they do not understand because 
> they are not in the IT field) is good for education and public 
> administration. 
> 
> This, as far as I understood, was the key selling factor Denis used to get 
> the CEME place and the whole committement by the city of Charleroi.
> 
> I am afraid that should we forget that, would they not be pleased.

We won't forget it. We'll plaster 'Libre Software' over our website,
I think. We can also provide links to Free Software in general, 
and use it a few times. So we'll have to do a careful balancing act between
people scared by the word 'Free' and otherwise won't come, and the people
who like the word Free. 'libre' is a good compromise for starters,
though, as the meaning is clearer than the word 'free' in English.

Anyway, I'm volunteering for this balancing act of offending (cough, pleasing)
all parties in this equally. If anyone has concerns or arguments about the
whole issue of free versus open, please contact me by private email so
we can keep most of the discussion off the list.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 13:43:03 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:43:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] ZOPE BBQ - beehieve contact / estimates of attendees
In-Reply-To: <1013758631.3c6cbaa70be32@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIECKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013713370.3c6c09daa8d39@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215015214.GC13798@vet.uu.nl> <1013758631.3c6cbaa70be32@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020215134303.GC15389@vet.uu.nl>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>:
> 
> > Note also that Mark Pratt has mentioned in the past he was interested
> > in organizing a Python event, so I'm really hoping he'd like to
> > contribute to EuroPython's organization.
> 
> I know, but again, don't expect too much. Beehive is a purely
> commercial place following its own interests. I'd love to see
> them participate but after several chats with Mark I'm skeptical.

I've contacted him and Beehive is interested in contributing to some extent,
which is excellent news. Naturally their resources like any of ours are 
limited, but we weren't expecting them to do all the work in the first
place so I'm not concerned. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 13:49:11 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:49:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Graphics, logos, styling, design, fonts, etc
In-Reply-To: <3C6CC360.3020808@123piano.com>
References: <1013672203.3c6b690b6aafa@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020214121959.E11748@carolo.net> <20020214185529.GB11765@vet.uu.nl> <3C6CC360.3020808@123piano.com>
Message-ID: <20020215134911.GD15389@vet.uu.nl>

Philippe Jadin wrote:
> I hade some spare time last night so I did a little layout, feel free to 
> take inspiration from it :
> 
> http://www.123piano.com/europython/layout01.gif
> http://www.123piano.com/europython/layout02.gif
> 
> nothing fancy, maybe just a start...

Looks like a good start. I've added these links to the 

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/WebTeam

so they don't get lost. You guys should probably create some wiki pages
to discuss these matters in more details, moving them off the WebTeam
page. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 13:53:15 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:53:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020215135315.GE15389@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> OSI compliant have the "free" built-in... at least as far as money
> is concerned. What definition of "free" do they have in mind ?

I think we're talking in the 'free as in speech' sense here. The word
'libre' in French means this, they have another word for 'free as in
beer' (gratis). In Dutch that's 'vrij' and 'gratis' respectively,
and in German that would be 'frei' and 'gratis/umsonst'. But you
likely know that better than I do. :)

[snip]
> Let's educate them at the conference. Perhaps we could have a talk
> summarizing all the different models in the business track ?!

Sounds good, let's please postpone the discussion on this so we
have something left to talk about at the conference. ;)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 13:55:17 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:55:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202150947520.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <vgit8zu6hg.fsf@mastiff.dfki.uni-sb.de> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202150947520.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020215135517.GF15389@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> So here is what I did :
> 
> 1. add a list of people (http://www.europython.org/wiki/ListOfPeople)

Neat!

> 2. tried to reparent people names to that item, by I didn't have a
>    login/password

If there are no disastrous consequences, I could make reparenting an
operation anyone can do, I think. That sounds good?

Thanks,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 14:01:10 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:01:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] need phone numbers etc for press release
Message-ID: <20020215140110.GA15504@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

In order to finalize the press release, we need some additional
phone numbers (or possibly swap around names). Currently for
the UK we have names but no phone numbers:

UK

    * Tim Couper, email: drtimcouper@yahoo.co.uk, tel: +44.
   
    * Andy Robinson, email: andy@reportlab.com , tel: +44.

Are you two okay with having your name listed there, and if so would
you please go in there and supply a phone number?

Regards,

Martijn



From tim@2wave.net  Fri Feb 15 14:09:52 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:09:52 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: need phone numbers etc for press release
In-Reply-To: <20020215140110.GA15504@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020215140952.28189.qmail@web14502.mail.yahoo.com>

I edited the wiki a couple of days ago. You'll see the
updated entry in Press Release English

Tim

 --- Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl> wrote: > Hi
there,
> 
> In order to finalize the press release, we need some
> additional
> phone numbers (or possibly swap around names).
> Currently for
> the UK we have names but no phone numbers:
> 
> UK
> 
>     * Tim Couper, email: drtimcouper@yahoo.co.uk,
> tel: +44.
>    
>     * Andy Robinson, email: andy@reportlab.com ,
> tel: +44.
> 
> Are you two okay with having your name listed there,
> and if so would
> you please go in there and supply a phone number?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Martijn
>  

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From paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk  Fri Feb 15 14:15:31 2002
From: paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Browning)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 14:15:31 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <m3g042hpbv.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
Message-ID: <SIMEON.10202151431.A@basalt.bris.ac.uk>

On 15 Feb 2002 14:00:52 +0100 Konrad Hinsen <hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr> wrote:

> Paul Browning <paul.browning@bristol.ac.uk> writes:
> 
> > It's an interesting space to watch. Wasn't a French minister
> > recently singing the praises of OSS?
> 
> I don't remember, but OpenSource is a topic of discussion in the
> French parliament, as it is in Germany, by the way. But it seems that
> all those activities remain at the stage of showing interest, without
> actuall adopting OpenSource programs for government/parliament work.

Viola!
http://www.zope.com/News/PressReleases/Zope2-5-Jan28-2001

> 
> > http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=429
> > http://www.govtalk.gov.uk/rfc/rfc_document.asp?docnum=430
> > 
> > (And yes, don't use Netscape 4 or you can't see the pages.
> > Open government or what?)
> 
> I can read the PDF versions running Opera 5 under Linux. What's
> the problem with Netscape 4?

In Netscape 4.75 all I get is a largely white page ... but
it does have a W3C logo top left so it least it is trying!

Paul

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From lac@strakt.com  Fri Feb 15 14:25:28 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:25:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: Message from "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com>
 of "Fri, 15 Feb 2002 12:19:39 +0100." <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>  <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <200202151425.g1FEPSGo005252@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

Do we want to call it the 'Python in Government and Business' Track then?

When I was at the OReilly Open Source Convention in the USA 2 years ago,
I met many Germans who were very happy that the German government had
passed some law that required the government to use Open Source 
Solutions when available.  Can I see some relevant documents about this
and how it has worked out?  German is ok, but I would really like some
Swedish English or French ones if you have any.  It would make a 
great business talk.

The way you get a great business track is to figure out what you want
to have said, and then commission the papers from the people who would
say this best.  Of course you have an open submitted process, and you
will get a few real astonishing wonders that nobody thought of.  This
is gravy.  It is _not_ like a scientific conference, where you never
know what you are going to get because it depends on what people are
willing to submit.  (Actually sometimes you commission papers for them
as well, but let's not discuss _this_ here and now.)  Free
accomodation and conference entry is all we can offer, correct?

Laura


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Fri Feb 15 14:30:49 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:30:49 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: need phone numbers etc for press release
In-Reply-To: <20020215140952.28189.qmail@web14502.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202151529230.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> I edited the wiki a couple of days ago. You'll see the
> updated entry in Press Release English

I merged your changes and moved the text from PressRelease to
PressReleaseEnglish, which is now the single working document aka
"reference". Translations can start from there tomorrow morning as today
is the deadline for the press release.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From lac@strakt.com  Fri Feb 15 14:41:13 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:41:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: Your message of "15 Feb 2002 13:05:19 +0100."
 <6qadubq7b4.fsf@abnoba.intevation.de>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>  <6qadubq7b4.fsf@abnoba.intevation.de>
Message-ID: <200202151441.g1FEfDGo005321@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

>Bernhard Herzog:
>Aynbody interested in EU + Free Software might want to go to FOSDEM in
>Brussels this weekend. There'll be a talk by Philippe Aigrain about
>this, IIRC.

Do you know what it would take to get him to give this talk for us?

Laura


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Fri Feb 15 14:46:37 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 15:46:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] german press release (Korrekturlesen), contacts
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEDIDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi folks,

the german translation is on the net. I'm currently working over it,
correcting some spelling (the translator was no tekki). Need someone German
to look over it, in an hour or two.

Is it meaningful to double the list of contacts? I would like to have
something like "include this page"... like it can be done with MoinMoin
wiki's.... does Zwiki support something like this?

Andrew




From lac@strakt.com  Fri Feb 15 15:06:24 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:06:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: Message from Nicolas Chauvat <Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr>
 of "Fri, 15 Feb 2002 13:18:53 +0100." <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202150947520.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202150947520.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <200202151506.g1FF6OGo005372@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

I want to add an entry to (http://www.europython.org/wiki/ListOfPeople)
for Jacob Hall=E9n.  It's coming out as Jacob Hall.  How?

Laura =




From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Fri Feb 15 15:19:45 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:19:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi folks,

the german press release is edited, layouted and finished. Someone is going
to read & correct this before sending it, please?

Andrew




From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Fri Feb 15 15:22:14 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:22:14 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <200202151506.g1FF6OGo005372@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202150947520.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <200202151506.g1FF6OGo005372@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <1013786534.3c6d27a62d570@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Laura Creighton <lac@strakt.com>:

> I want to add an entry to
> (http://www.europython.org/wiki/ListOfPeople)
> for Jacob Hall=E9n.  It's coming out as Jacob Hall.  How?

You better don't use characters with diacritical marks as
they tend not to come out as expected, like you've just ex-
perienced...

Dinu



From lac@strakt.com  Fri Feb 15 15:25:58 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:25:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] I don't see anybody from Eastern Europe here.
Message-ID: <200202151525.g1FFPw9M005524@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

Who is working on outreach so they are not forgotten?  A cheap conference
is exactly what they are looking for, but they assume all conferences in
the West are too expensive.  We need hard numbers.

Laura


From lac@strakt.com  Fri Feb 15 15:27:11 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:27:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] logistics in Charleroi
Message-ID: <200202151527.g1FFRBcj005540@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

A restaurant guide is always nice.  I put that in the Wiki, but this is
so that discussions are to take place in the mailing list.
Laura


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Fri Feb 15 15:40:43 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:40:43 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Quoting Andrew Smart <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>:

> the german press release is edited, layouted and finished. 
> Someone is going to read & correct this before sending it, 
> please?

Done, mostly commas and hyphens... 

It's still not expressing clearly the followging:

* who is the, somewhat magic, EuroPython Conf.Team?
* how many participants are eyxpected?
* is it Python/Zope 50/50 or are there various Zope
  "submeetings"?

I hope this  can be made slightly more consistent and
clearer.

Regards,

Dinu

--
Dinu C. Gherman
................................................................
"If the Nuremberg laws were applied today, then every 
Post-War American president would have to be hanged."
                                       (Noam Chomsky)


From hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr  Fri Feb 15 15:40:36 2002
From: hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr (Konrad Hinsen)
Date: 15 Feb 2002 16:40:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release, german translation
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEDGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEDGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <m3eljmg3d7.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>

"Andrew Smart" <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> writes:

> I'll get a german translation for the press release in the next hour.

And I just posted one in Esperanto - can't hurt :-)

Konrad.
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From lac@strakt.com  Fri Feb 15 15:38:02 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:38:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: Message from Dinu Gherman <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de>
 of "Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:22:14 +0100." <1013786534.3c6d27a62d570@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202150947520.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <200202151506.g1FF6OGo005372@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>  <1013786534.3c6d27a62d570@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <200202151538.g1FFc2Go005599@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> Laura Creighton <lac@strakt.com>:
> =

> > I want to add an entry to
> > (http://www.europython.org/wiki/ListOfPeople)
> > for Jacob Hall=E9n.  It's coming out as Jacob Hall.  How?
> =

> You better don't use characters with diacritical marks as
> they tend not to come out as expected, like you've just ex-
> perienced...

Arrgh.  Hallen is Swedish for 'the hall'.  Hall=E9n is Swedish for
'from the region named Halland'.  They are pronounced differently.
Grumble Grumble Grumble.

Laura


From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb 15 15:44:20 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:44:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>  <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com> <200202151425.g1FEPSGo005252@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <3C6D2CD4.AC370FEC@lemburg.com>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> 
> Do we want to call it the 'Python in Government and Business' Track then?

No.

The government money issue is really part of the options you have
for raising money for a project, start-up or event. It fits
in nicely as talk, but shouldn't dominate it.

> When I was at the OReilly Open Source Convention in the USA 2 years ago,
> I met many Germans who were very happy that the German government had
> passed some law that required the government to use Open Source
> Solutions when available.  Can I see some relevant documents about this
> and how it has worked out?  German is ok, but I would really like some
> Swedish English or French ones if you have any.  It would make a
> great business talk.

I don't remember such a law :-) There was some talk to at
least consider using open source, but that's probably it.
(If there were such a law the government wouldn't put up the question 
of whether or not to use open source software for the parliament.)

Could be wrong though...
 
> The way you get a great business track is to figure out what you want
> to have said, and then commission the papers from the people who would
> say this best.  Of course you have an open submitted process, and you
> will get a few real astonishing wonders that nobody thought of.  This
> is gravy.  It is _not_ like a scientific conference, where you never
> know what you are going to get because it depends on what people are
> willing to submit. 

I don't think we can commission talks (I only know these under
the name "invited talks" or "key notes"), simple because we can't
offer anything much in return.

> (Actually sometimes you commission papers for them
> as well, but let's not discuss _this_ here and now.)  Free
> accomodation and conference entry is all we can offer, correct?

I'm not even sure about the free accomodation part -- it all
depends on the budget.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Fri Feb 15 15:47:24 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:47:24 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] I don't see anybody from Eastern Europe here.
In-Reply-To: <200202151525.g1FFPw9M005524@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <200202151525.g1FFPw9M005524@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <1013788044.3c6d2d8c0a8c5@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Quoting Laura Creighton <lac@strakt.com>:

> Who is working on outreach so they are not forgotten?  A cheap
> conference
> is exactly what they are looking for, but they assume all conferences
> in
> the West are too expensive.  We need hard numbers.

A difficult topic... Where they don't need visas anymore they
need to show now considerable amounts of cash to pass 
the borders to Austria, say... which should be an effective
means to compensate for their new travelling freedom...

Dinu

--
Dinu C. Gherman
................................................................
"The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare 
mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all the 
people. "                                     (Noam Chomsky)



From hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr  Fri Feb 15 15:53:38 2002
From: hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr (Konrad Hinsen)
Date: 15 Feb 2002 16:53:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <m3aduag2rh.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>

"Andrew Smart" <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> writes:

> the german press release is edited, layouted and finished. Someone is g=
oing
> to read & correct this before sending it, please?

'26.  28. Juni 2002'
-->   '26. - 28. Juni 2002'

ausschliesslich der Python Programmiersprache
-->  ausschliesslich der Programmiersprache Python

es an der Zeit eine=20
--> es an der Zeit, eine=20

k=F6nnen sich je nach Bedarf f=FCr Reden =FCber Python oder speziell Zope=
 bezogene Themen entscheiden.
--> k=F6nnen sich je nach Interesse f=FCr Vortr=E4ge =FCber Python oder s=
peziell Zope-bezogene Themen entscheiden.

EuroZope Mitglieder Versammlung
--> EuroZope- Mitgliederversammlung

Zope Zusammenkunft
--> Zope-Zusammenkunft

EuroZope Stiftung
--> EuroZope-Stiftung

Zope Benutzer
--> Zope-Benutzer

gl=FCcklich dar=FCber Gastgeber=20
--> gl=FCcklich dar=FCber, Gastgeber=20

Python ist die f=FChrende objektorientiert Open Source Programmiersprache=
=20
--> Python ist die f=FChrende objektorientierte Open Source-Programmiersp=
rache=20

beinhaltet, bietet Python die ideale=20
--> beinhaltet, ist Python die ideale=20

Python Quellcodes
--> Python-Quellcodes

Zope Gesellschaft
--> Zope Corporation    (it's a name, right?)

Open Source Produkt
--> Open Source-Produkt


So far for what I consider mistakes that should be corrected. I am not
happy with the overall style of the text, which is very formal, in
parts even legalese and/or old-fashioned, and in general looks like a
translation from English (probably because it is). But it is defintely
understandable.

Konrad.
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45071 Orleans Cedex 2                    | Deutsch/Esperanto/English/
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From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb 15 16:05:43 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:05:43 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <3C6D31D7.3B8B56E@lemburg.com>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> 
> Quoting Andrew Smart <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>:
> 
> > the german press release is edited, layouted and finished.
> > Someone is going to read & correct this before sending it,
> > please?

Thanks !
 
> Done, mostly commas and hyphens...
> 
> It's still not expressing clearly the followging:
> 
> * who is the, somewhat magic, EuroPython Conf.Team?
> * how many participants are eyxpected?
> * is it Python/Zope 50/50 or are there various Zope
>   "submeetings"?
> 
> I hope this  can be made slightly more consistent and
> clearer.

I've done some editing of the language. Now we should have a few
more people run grammar checks on it then start getting the
word next week.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb 15 16:06:08 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:06:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release, german translation
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEDGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <m3eljmg3d7.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
Message-ID: <3C6D31F0.36D035FA@lemburg.com>

Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> 
> "Andrew Smart" <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> writes:
> 
> > I'll get a german translation for the press release in the next hour.
> 
> And I just posted one in Esperanto - can't hurt :-)

Cool :-)
 
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb 15 16:08:14 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:08:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <m3aduag2rh.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
Message-ID: <3C6D326E.66C39BDD@lemburg.com>

Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> 
> "Andrew Smart" <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> writes:
> 
> > the german press release is edited, layouted and finished. Someone is going
> > to read & correct this before sending it, please?
>
> [proposed changes]

Could you edit these changes into the Wiki ? Thanks.
 
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From lac@strakt.com  Fri Feb 15 16:08:49 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:08:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: Message from "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com>
 of "Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:44:20 +0100." <3C6D2CD4.AC370FEC@lemburg.com>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com> <200202151425.g1FEPSGo005252@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>  <3C6D2CD4.AC370FEC@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <200202151608.g1FG8nGo005693@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

>Marc-Andre Lemburg:
> Laura Creighton wrote:
> > 
> > Do we want to call it the 'Python in Government and Business' Track then?
> 
> No.
> 
> The government money issue is really part of the options you have
> for raising money for a project, start-up or event. It fits
> in nicely as talk, but shouldn't dominate it.

I was thinking more along the line of 'You are a government.  You need
a python open source solution'.  They do for the same reason businesses
do, but lots of people in government do not see much of a connection
between what they do and what businesses do.  If you title your track
that way, Government people know to attend this one.  

[Marc-Andre doesn't know about any German law requring the government to
 use open source solutions]

Hmm. I am remembering 'in health care' or some such.
> 
> I don't think we can commission talks (I only know these under
> the name "invited talks" or "key notes"), simple because we can't
> offer anything much in return.

(Then you commission them from people that were going anyway, and
promise them nothing but the soapbox to stand on.)

[snip]

Laura Creighton


From hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr  Fri Feb 15 16:12:20 2002
From: hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr (Konrad Hinsen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:12:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <3C6D326E.66C39BDD@lemburg.com> (mal@lemburg.com)
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <m3aduag2rh.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr> <3C6D326E.66C39BDD@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <200202151612.g1FGCK532592@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>

> Could you edit these changes into the Wiki ? Thanks.

Sure, but since this might take a while, I wonder what happens if someone
else decides to make changes at the same time - is there some coordination
in the Wiki itself, or do we need to agree "offline"?

Konrad.
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Rue Charles Sadron                       | Fax:  +33-2.38.63.15.17
45071 Orleans Cedex 2                    | Deutsch/Esperanto/English/
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From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Fri Feb 15 16:16:48 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:16:48 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <200202151612.g1FGCK532592@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <m3aduag2rh.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr> <3C6D326E.66C39BDD@lemburg.com> <200202151612.g1FGCK532592@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
Message-ID: <1013789808.3c6d3470e94d0@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Konrad Hinsen <hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr>:

> > Could you edit these changes into the Wiki ? Thanks.
> 
> Sure, but since this might take a while, I wonder what happens if
> someone
> else decides to make changes at the same time - is there some
> coordination
> in the Wiki itself, or do we need to agree "offline"?

This is the Wiki-Nature: you think about it and find it's already
done, like with most of your changes! The secret is to make
only small deltas... (although a Moin-like diff would be nice...).

Dinu


From robin@reportlab.com  Fri Feb 15 16:20:48 2002
From: robin@reportlab.com (Robin Becker)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:20:48 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <200202151538.g1FFc2Go005599@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202150947520.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
 <200202151506.g1FF6OGo005372@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
 <1013786534.3c6d27a62d570@webmail.in-berlin.de> <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de>
 <200202151538.g1FFc2Go005599@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <HnOQ+LAgVTb8EwCy@jessikat.demon.co.uk>

In article <200202151538.g1FFc2Go005599@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>, Laura
Creighton <lac@strakt.com> writes
>> Laura Creighton <lac@strakt.com>:
>> 
>> > I want to add an entry to
>> > (http://www.europython.org/wiki/ListOfPeople)
>> > for Jacob Hallén.  It's coming out as Jacob Hall.  How?
>> 
>> You better don't use characters with diacritical marks as
>> they tend not to come out as expected, like you've just ex-
>> perienced...
>
>Arrgh.  Hallen is Swedish for 'the hall'.  Hallén is Swedish for
>'from the region named Halland'.  They are pronounced differently.
>Grumble Grumble Grumble.
>
>Laura
well according to my HTML book you could try

&#233; or &eacute;
-- 
Robin Becker


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Fri Feb 15 16:31:05 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:31:05 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <HnOQ+LAgVTb8EwCy@jessikat.demon.co.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202150947520.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <200202151506.g1FF6OGo005372@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <1013786534.3c6d27a62d570@webmail.in-berlin.de> <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de> <200202151538.g1FFc2Go005599@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <HnOQ+LAgVTb8EwCy@jessikat.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1013790665.3c6d37c975004@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com>:

> well according to my HTML book you could try
> 
> &#233; or &eacute;

That depends very more on what the specific Wiki implemen-
tation allows inside the WikiNames... which was the whole 
point I think...

Dinu


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Fri Feb 15 16:33:51 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:33:51 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release, german translation
In-Reply-To: <m3eljmg3d7.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202151733450.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> And I just posted one in Esperanto - can't hurt :-)

:-))
-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From robin@reportlab.com  Fri Feb 15 16:37:34 2002
From: robin@reportlab.com (Robin Becker)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:37:34 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <HnOQ+LAgVTb8EwCy@jessikat.demon.co.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202150947520.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
 <200202151506.g1FF6OGo005372@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
 <1013786534.3c6d27a62d570@webmail.in-berlin.de> <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de>
 <200202151538.g1FFc2Go005599@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
 <HnOQ+LAgVTb8EwCy@jessikat.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <3HFcGJAOlTb8EwGs@jessikat.demon.co.uk>

In article <HnOQ+LAgVTb8EwCy@jessikat.demon.co.uk>, Robin Becker
<robin@reportlab.com> writes
......
>>
>>Arrgh.  Hallen is Swedish for 'the hall'.  Hallén is Swedish for
>>'from the region named Halland'.  They are pronounced differently.
>>Grumble Grumble Grumble.
>>
>>Laura
>well according to my HTML book you could try
>
>&#233; or &eacute;

well it seems as though wiki's are a bit pedantic about converting &'s
into &amp; so any wiki experts able to say how you put real html into a
wiki page?
-- 
Robin Becker


From robin@reportlab.com  Fri Feb 15 16:39:04 2002
From: robin@reportlab.com (Robin Becker)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:39:04 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <1013790665.3c6d37c975004@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202150947520.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
 <200202151506.g1FF6OGo005372@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
 <1013786534.3c6d27a62d570@webmail.in-berlin.de> <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de>
 <200202151538.g1FFc2Go005599@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
 <HnOQ+LAgVTb8EwCy@jessikat.demon.co.uk>
 <1013790665.3c6d37c975004@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <znMdeXAomTb8EwkD@jessikat.demon.co.uk>

In article <1013790665.3c6d37c975004@webmail.in-berlin.de>, Dinu Gherman
<gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de> writes
>Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com>:
>
>> well according to my HTML book you could try
>> 
>> &#233; or &eacute;
>
>That depends very more on what the specific Wiki implemen-
>tation allows inside the WikiNames... which was the whole 
>point I think...
>
>Dinu
>
sigh yes I just tried and it seems they don't have an escape into HTML
easily. 
-- 
Robin Becker


From lac@strakt.com  Fri Feb 15 16:36:39 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:36:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: Message from Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com>
 of "Fri, 15 Feb 2002 16:20:48 GMT." <HnOQ+LAgVTb8EwCy@jessikat.demon.co.uk>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202150947520.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <200202151506.g1FF6OGo005372@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <1013786534.3c6d27a62d570@webmail.in-berlin.de> <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de> <200202151538.g1FFc2Go005599@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>  <HnOQ+LAgVTb8EwCy@jessikat.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200202151636.g1FGadGo006228@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> In article <200202151538.g1FFc2Go005599@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>, Laura
> Creighton <lac@strakt.com> writes
> >> Laura Creighton <lac@strakt.com>:
> >> =

> >> > I want to add an entry to
> >> > (http://www.europython.org/wiki/ListOfPeople)
> >> > for Jacob Hall=E9n.  It's coming out as Jacob Hall.  How?
> >> =

> >> You better don't use characters with diacritical marks as
> >> they tend not to come out as expected, like you've just ex-
> >> perienced...
> >
> >Arrgh.  Hallen is Swedish for 'the hall'.  Hall=E9n is Swedish for
> >'from the region named Halland'.  They are pronounced differently.
> >Grumble Grumble Grumble.
> >
> >Laura
> well according to my HTML book you could try
> =

> &#233; or &eacute;
> -- =

> Robin Becker

Alas, neither of them work.

Laura


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Fri Feb 15 16:42:44 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:42:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Public Relations, Registration of the people willing to come
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Maybe we should help ourselves and offer a possibility to register for
official conference news and if the person is willing to come.

Like
  - a official new mailing list (seperate from this organisational mailing
list)
    Responsible: PublicRelationsteam
  - throu a web registration formular
  - the person can say
      O I will definitly attend (inform me about news and if avaible, entry
prices)
      O I will probably attend (inform me about news and if avaible entry
prices)
      O I am interested, inform me about news
  - additionally:
      O I need a cheap accomodation
      O I need a business/hotel accomodation

With the later informations we can talk to hotels and get special discounts.

Good Idea?

I don't know how to make this with wiki...?

Andrew



From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb 15 16:56:01 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:56:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Public Relations, Registration of the people willing to
 come
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <3C6D3DA1.F1DFD639@lemburg.com>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> 
> Maybe we should help ourselves and offer a possibility to register for
> official conference news and if the person is willing to come.

Very good idea :-)

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From andy@reportlab.com  Fri Feb 15 17:04:33 2002
From: andy@reportlab.com (Andy Robinson)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:04:33 -0000
Subject: [EuroPython] RE: need phone numbers etc for press release
In-Reply-To: <20020215140110.GA15504@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <PGECLPOBGNBNKHNAGIJHOEIDDCAA.andy@reportlab.com>

Andy Robinson:  +44-7976-355742

If you want a physical office instead of a human,
you could also quote:

ReportLab Europe Ltd.  +44-20-8545-7271

I'll brief my colleagues.
But my mobile phone gets answered for more hours
each day, the office is just 10:00-18:00

- Andy
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martijn Faassen [mailto:faassen@vet.uu.nl]
> Sent: 15 February 2002 14:01
> To: europython@python.org
> Cc: drtimcouper@yahoo.co.uk; andy@reportlab.com
> Subject: need phone numbers etc for press release
>
>
> Hi there,
>
> In order to finalize the press release, we need some additional
> phone numbers (or possibly swap around names). Currently for
> the UK we have names but no phone numbers:
>
> UK
>
>     * Tim Couper, email: drtimcouper@yahoo.co.uk, tel: +44.
>
>     * Andy Robinson, email: andy@reportlab.com , tel: +44.
>
> Are you two okay with having your name listed there, and if so would
> you please go in there and supply a phone number?
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn
>
>



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Fri Feb 15 17:30:48 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:30:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Service - Travelling, Accomodation, Restaurants
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEDODAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Added some new main entry points on the wiki front page 

- Service

  - TravelGuide

  - AccomodationGuide

  - RestaurantGuide

I'll be fill in some informations about travelling from Germany.

Andrew





From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Fri Feb 15 16:45:24 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:45:24 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <200202151636.g1FGadGo006228@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Try

<p> My N&eacuteme </p>

Gives you

  My Néme

Andrew



From robin@reportlab.com  Fri Feb 15 17:44:29 2002
From: robin@reportlab.com (Robin Becker)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:44:29 +0000
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <200202151636.g1FGadGo006228@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
 <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <xwptLKA9jUb8Ew0p@jessikat.demon.co.uk>

In article <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>,
Andrew Smart <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> writes
>Try
>
><p> My N&eacuteme </p>
>
>Gives you
>
>  My Néme
>
>Andrew
>
>
...not in my moin at least. I guess all the standard HTML characters are
mangled so the html meaning get's lost.
-- 
Robin Becker


From hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr  Fri Feb 15 17:48:26 2002
From: hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr (Konrad Hinsen)
Date: 15 Feb 2002 18:48:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <1013789808.3c6d3470e94d0@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
 <m3aduag2rh.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
 <3C6D326E.66C39BDD@lemburg.com>
 <200202151612.g1FGCK532592@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
 <1013789808.3c6d3470e94d0@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <m31yfmfxg5.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>

Dinu Gherman <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de> writes:

> This is the Wiki-Nature: you think about it and find it's already
> done, like with most of your changes! The secret is to make
> only small deltas... (although a Moin-like diff would be nice...).

I tried this, but found this very inconvenient. When I edit
a page, save it, and then take up editing again, I get the *old*
page again. Perhaps this is my Web browser caching, but whatever
the reason, it is not practical.

Konrad.
-- 
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From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Fri Feb 15 17:51:14 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:51:14 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <200202151741.g1FHftGo006515@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEDPDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Your wish is my command... :-)

Did it with a HTML <a href> command :-)

Is NOT a wiki link, but a hyperlink, and it's working


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Laura Creighton [mailto:lac@strakt.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 15. Februar 2002 18:42
An: Andrew Smart
Betreff: Re: AW: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses


That doesn't work either.  Its a problem with the header software.
If you can get the accent in JacobHallén in the ListOfPeople, I
would be most grateful.  Thank you,
Laura Creighton

ps .. how are business tracks to be coordinated?



From lac@strakt.com  Fri Feb 15 17:48:22 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:48:22 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: Message from Robin Becker <robin@reportlab.com>
 of "Fri, 15 Feb 2002 17:44:29 GMT." <xwptLKA9jUb8Ew0p@jessikat.demon.co.uk>
References: <200202151636.g1FGadGo006228@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>  <xwptLKA9jUb8Ew0p@jessikat.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200202151748.g1FHmMGo006544@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> In article <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>,
> Andrew Smart <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> writes
> >Try
> >
> ><p> My N&eacuteme </p>
> >
> >Gives you
> >
> >  My N=E9me
> >
> >Andrew
> >
> >
> ...not in my moin at least. I guess all the standard HTML characters are
> mangled so the html meaning get's lost.
> -- =


That doesn't work in the Titles for ListOfPeople either, alas.

Laura=


From lac@strakt.com  Fri Feb 15 17:50:50 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:50:50 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: Message from Laura Creighton <lac@strakt.com>
 of "Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:48:22 +0100." <200202151748.g1FHmMGo006544@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <200202151636.g1FGadGo006228@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <xwptLKA9jUb8Ew0p@jessikat.demon.co.uk>  <200202151748.g1FHmMGo006544@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <200202151750.g1FHooGo006583@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> > In article <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de=
>,
> > Andrew Smart <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> writes
> > >Try
> > >
> > ><p> My N&eacuteme </p>
> > >
> > >Gives you
> > >
> > >  My N=E9me
> > >
> > >Andrew
> > >
> > >
> > ...not in my moin at least. I guess all the standard HTML characters a=
re
> > mangled so the html meaning get's lost.
> > -- =

> =

> That doesn't work in the Titles for ListOfPeople either, alas.
> =

> Laura

I was wrong.  Andrew Smart fixed it.  Now to read what he really did and
learn something.  Thank you Andrew Smart.

Laura=


From robin@reportlab.com  Fri Feb 15 18:56:25 2002
From: robin@reportlab.com (Robin Becker)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 18:56:25 +0000
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] PressReleasePress contact addresses
In-Reply-To: <200202151750.g1FHooGo006583@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <200202151636.g1FGadGo006228@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
 <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
 <xwptLKA9jUb8Ew0p@jessikat.demon.co.uk>
 <200202151748.g1FHmMGo006544@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <lac@strakt.com>
 <200202151750.g1FHooGo006583@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <1xg8bIAZnVb8Ewk3@jessikat.fsnet.co.uk>

In article <200202151750.g1FHooGo006583@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>, Laura
Creighton <lac@strakt.com> writes
......
>
>I was wrong.  Andrew Smart fixed it.  Now to read what he really did and
>learn something.  Thank you Andrew Smart.
>
>Laura
seems he used a direct <a href="http:....">Jacob Hall&eacute;n</a> I
suppose the zope wiki must be clever enough to leave it alone.
-- 
Robin Becker


From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb 15 19:19:21 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 20:19:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Commissioning talks
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com> <200202151425.g1FEPSGo005252@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>  <3C6D2CD4.AC370FEC@lemburg.com> <200202151608.g1FG8nGo005693@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <3C6D5F39.52C78B4@lemburg.com>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> 
> >Marc-Andre Lemburg:
> > Laura Creighton wrote:
> > >
> > > Do we want to call it the 'Python in Government and Business' Track then?
> >
> > No.
> >
> > The government money issue is really part of the options you have
> > for raising money for a project, start-up or event. It fits
> > in nicely as talk, but shouldn't dominate it.
> 
> I was thinking more along the line of 'You are a government.  You need
> a python open source solution'.  They do for the same reason businesses
> do, but lots of people in government do not see much of a connection
> between what they do and what businesses do.  If you title your track
> that way, Government people know to attend this one.

The problem is that we could then just as well add churches, 
charities and other non-profits, etc. to the track title.

I would rather like to keep it generic in a certain sense that
separates it from the other tracks. The track's list of talks
and subtitle will then provide the information you are asking
for.
 
> [Marc-Andre doesn't know about any German law requring the government to
>  use open source solutions]
> 
> Hmm. I am remembering 'in health care' or some such.

Could be; don't know. I do know that open source software, esp.
Linux is used quite a bit in government agencies, but there's no
general agreement on its usefulness, AFAIK.

Most of their software still runs in classical mainframe
based client/server or even direct 3270 mode.

> > I don't think we can commission talks (I only know these under
> > the name "invited talks" or "key notes"), simple because we can't
> > offer anything much in return.
> 
> (Then you commission them from people that were going anyway, and
> promise them nothing but the soapbox to stand on.)

Ok :-) ... then I would like you to talk about strategies of 
convincing government agencies and commissions (like the EU 
commission) about the positive effects of building IT strategies 
on top of open source platforms, Python in particular, of course.

How many more talks can I commission to AB Strakt ?

Here are some more ideas (provided there are any candidates out
there who have experience in these areas):

* Experience with Python in business projects

  - switching from (you name it) to Python: benefits, problems,...
  - training effort needed to get C++/Java programmers up and running
    in Python
  - prototyping in Python and then going to production with it:
    reduced costs, rewriting hot-spots in C, ...
  - planning a Python based project:
    comparing the required man power to a C++ or Java project,
    project phases, roll out, ...

* Mentioning Python in front of customers / investors

  - pros/cons of doing so, providing good answers to common questions
  - handling FUD: what's Python ? where do I find programmers ?
  - modern programming: "we run this project mainly using the C++/Java
    interpreter pattern"
  - investement security: how hard would it be to have XYZ maintain
    the software ? what if I want feature ABC added in two years ?
  - enterprise integration: which interfaces are available ? how
    relyable are they ?
  - legalese: who can I sue if something goes wrong ?

* Python on the job

  - selecting the right tools: which IDE, platform, GUI ? 
  - designing a Python application: where to start, which method
    to use, ...
  - dependencies on third-party libs: do licenses pose a problem 
    for commercial products ?
  - managing the code base: classes, modules and packages

More to come...

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Fri Feb 15 21:21:04 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 22:21:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] GermanTravelGuide
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEEBDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi folks,

just added a GermanTravelGuide to the net.
Gives 2 links to travel informations, and hints about the way and the
traveltime from 3 directions (Hannover, Köln/Colonge and Stuttgart), each
with car and rail.

Where is the nearest airport? Liege? Brüssel?

I did it in German, since it is a GermanTravelGuide. Is that ok? Or should
be held in english?

Andrew



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 22:23:15 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:23:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: need phone numbers etc for press release
In-Reply-To: <20020215140952.28189.qmail@web14502.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020215140110.GA15504@vet.uu.nl> <20020215140952.28189.qmail@web14502.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020215222315.GA17939@vet.uu.nl>

Tim Couper wrote:
> I edited the wiki a couple of days ago. You'll see the
> updated entry in Press Release English

Darn, I knew I shouldn've have left that press release english 
in there. I think (hope) the one we were editing was the one on the main
page.

I'll remove the press release English now after diffing it with the one
on the main press release page..

Oh, wait, someone moved it already..

Looks like it's the right one. Still don't have Andy Robinson's phone
number. Andy?

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 22:27:31 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:27:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <200202151425.g1FEPSGo005252@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com> <200202151425.g1FEPSGo005252@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020215222731.GB17939@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> Free accomodation and conference entry is all we can offer, correct?

Right now we have no money for free accomodation, so we can't offer that,
and free conference entry needs to be discussed in the general discussion
on budget. I'd like to offer speakers *something* at least; perhaps
we can have a student rate which also applies to speakers.

But before we start handing out anything that costs actual money as 
opposed to volunteer time, I'd like to have the budget situation a lot
better than it is now. As right now it's pretty much absent; we haven't
even decided completely yet which bank account to use. We haven't decided
how to protect ourselves against the risk of going over budget, and 
in case we actually make money, we haven't decided what happens with that
either.

I'm at a loss on how to proceed here, and some advice would be good.
Perhaps the smartest thing to do is start a special foundation to
run the conference, but I'm not sure how easy/quickly we can do that.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 22:34:38 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:34:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Removing the 20,000
Message-ID: <20020215223438.GD17939@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

Since we've got so clue where the 20,000 figure of Zope developers came
from, I've removed it from all press releases.

Though it wasn't in the french one. And I can't really read 
Esperanto, but I deleted the 20,000 one anyway. If it was something
about 20,000 leagues under the sea in that text, I apologize. :)

Let's not throw around numbers when we can't back them up 
extremely well.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 22:39:39 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:39:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> Quoting Andrew Smart <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>:
> 
> > the german press release is edited, layouted and finished. 
> > Someone is going to read & correct this before sending it, 
> > please?
> 
> Done, mostly commas and hyphens... 
> 
> It's still not expressing clearly the followging:
> 
> * who is the, somewhat magic, EuroPython Conf.Team?

That's us. We're somewhat magic. :)

Please note that the whole process was started when I just ad-hoc started
mailing a bunch of people I knew about in the python and zope worlds
whether they were interested in a conference. They were, and here we are. :) 

> * how many participants are eyxpected?

200-300, but possibly quite a bit more if we're lucky. I don't think there'll
be less than 200.

> * is it Python/Zope 50/50 or are there various Zope
>   "submeetings"?

It's Python Python Python first, and there'll be a Zope track. That said,
the Zope community in recent years in Europe has been somewhat more organized
than the Python community, in that there were several meetings since 2000
with the same usual suspects present, and there's a also EuroZope foundation.
I've been drawing on that community, which is why you see such a large
dosage of Zopeisms. But it's generally been agreed that this is Euro*Python*
(and also Zope). Python first. The Zopers will come in any case if we don't
completely ignore Zope.
 
> I hope this  can be made slightly more consistent and
> clearer.

I was already trying, but apparently even the recent edits still failed
in that regard.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 22:43:14 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:43:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <3C6D2CD4.AC370FEC@lemburg.com>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com> <200202151425.g1FEPSGo005252@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <3C6D2CD4.AC370FEC@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020215224313.GF17939@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> I don't think we can commission talks (I only know these under
> the name "invited talks" or "key notes"), simple because we can't
> offer anything much in return.

In general I don't think we have to worry about getting enough talks
anyway. Well known Pythoneers are coming to us by themselves offering
to do talks. In other cases, I just sent a single mail to someone and 
they were quite willing to do talks. 

This may be different on the business track, but even there I don't think
we've got to worry too much either..

> > (Actually sometimes you commission papers for them
> > as well, but let's not discuss _this_ here and now.)  Free
> > accomodation and conference entry is all we can offer, correct?
> 
> I'm not even sure about the free accomodation part -- it all
> depends on the budget.

Right, free entrance we can discuss or alternatively a conference rate
cut (IPC didn't even do that and still gets speakers though, but I
suggest we do at the least a rate cut for speakers).

Accommodation depends entirely on the budget, or possibly on whether
the locals want to put up with them. :)

Regards,

Martijn




From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 22:45:21 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:45:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <m3aduag2rh.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <m3aduag2rh.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
Message-ID: <20020215224520.GG17939@vet.uu.nl>

Konrad Hinsen wrote:
[snip]
> So far for what I consider mistakes that should be corrected. I am not
> happy with the overall style of the text, which is very formal, in
> parts even legalese and/or old-fashioned, and in general looks like a
> translation from English (probably because it is). But it is defintely
> understandable.

Does the formal/legalese/old fashioned complaint also apply to the English
text?

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 22:47:45 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:47:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <200202151612.g1FGCK532592@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <m3aduag2rh.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr> <3C6D326E.66C39BDD@lemburg.com> <200202151612.g1FGCK532592@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
Message-ID: <20020215224745.GH17939@vet.uu.nl>

Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> > Could you edit these changes into the Wiki ? Thanks.
> 
> Sure, but since this might take a while, I wonder what happens if someone
> else decides to make changes at the same time - is there some coordination
> in the Wiki itself, or do we need to agree "offline"?

I think you need to depend on luck. We may want to switch to MoinMoin
which I think has a diff mechanism, but that doesn't come with our
Zope install and I don't want to overburden Amaze with a lot of demands
from us. :)

MoinMoin isn't a Zope based wiki btw, but it is python based.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 22:51:14 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:51:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Public Relations, Registration of the people willing to come
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEDNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020215225114.GI17939@vet.uu.nl>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> 
> Maybe we should help ourselves and offer a possibility to register for
> official conference news and if the person is willing to come.
> 
> Like
>   - a official new mailing list (seperate from this organisational mailing
> list)
>     Responsible: PublicRelationsteam

We can do this quickly so we need to do that first. Is anyone volunteering
with the technology or should I go and beg various people? I think I can
arrange something with python.org if desired.

[web form with questionnaire]
> With the later informations we can talk to hotels and get special discounts.

I think we need to be careful with this (it all depends on how we ask
the questions), and I think we can simply start with the above mailing list
and see how many people subscribe. 

Later on we need a registration form, of course.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 15 22:54:04 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:54:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] RE: need phone numbers etc for press release
In-Reply-To: <PGECLPOBGNBNKHNAGIJHOEIDDCAA.andy@reportlab.com>
References: <20020215140110.GA15504@vet.uu.nl> <PGECLPOBGNBNKHNAGIJHOEIDDCAA.andy@reportlab.com>
Message-ID: <20020215225404.GJ17939@vet.uu.nl>

Andy Robinson wrote:
> Andy Robinson:  +44-7976-355742
> 
> If you want a physical office instead of a human,
> you could also quote:
> 
> ReportLab Europe Ltd.  +44-20-8545-7271
> 
> I'll brief my colleagues.
> But my mobile phone gets answered for more hours
> each day, the office is just 10:00-18:00

Okay, then I've added the former one to the wiki in the English press
release (the mobile one).

The other phone numbers all have a (0) in them; I've not added it here
but if someone know how that works for UK phone numbers feel free to
correct it.

Regards,

Martijn



From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb 15 22:54:25 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2002 23:54:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com> <200202151425.g1FEPSGo005252@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215222731.GB17939@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C6D91A1.40F5E772@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Laura Creighton wrote:
> > Free accomodation and conference entry is all we can offer, correct?
> 
> Right now we have no money for free accomodation, so we can't offer that,
> and free conference entry needs to be discussed in the general discussion
> on budget. I'd like to offer speakers *something* at least; perhaps
> we can have a student rate which also applies to speakers.

If at all possible, speakers should not have to pay for the 
conference -- they already put enough effort into preparing 
the talk.

Since budgets are always about legal responsibility, you should
start thinking about defining the conference legal entities.

Since the conference team is officially cited at Charleroi, 
that's probably where you should incorporate the foundation. 
I hope that these things don't take too long. Donations will 
have to go to the foundation's bank account and we can't talk 
about budgets until the first donations start pouring in...

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Fri Feb 15 23:29:08 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:29:08 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>:

> > * who is the, somewhat magic, EuroPython Conf.Team?
> 
> That's us. We're somewhat magic. :)
> 
> Please note that the whole process was started when I just ad-hoc
> started
> mailing a bunch of people I knew about in the python and zope worlds
> whether they were interested in a conference. They were, and here we
> are. :) 

Well, yes, but how should somebody *outside* know that?
To somebody new (press, sponsors, ...) "Conference Team"
just doesn't mean much, I think. But I also have no better
solution to offer.

> > * how many participants are eyxpected?
> 
> 200-300, but possibly quite a bit more if we're lucky. I don't think
> there'll be less than 200.

Right, but then it should be in the announcementm if only as a
figure like 250-350.

> It's Python Python Python first, and there'll be a Zope track.

Good, but then I see an inconsistency between "EuroPython"
and "European Python and Zope Conference". Ideally, I feel
like it should be "European Python Conference 2002" and 
"EPC 2002" (like IPC10), with some subtitle emphasizing 
Zope like "The first Major European Python and Zope Mee-
ting".

Dinu


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Sat Feb 16 07:21:15 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:21:15 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Public Relations, Registration of the people willing to come
In-Reply-To: <20020215225114.GI17939@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEEEDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>


>> With the later informations we can talk to hotels and get special
discounts.

Martijn wrote:
>I think we need to be careful with this (it all depends on how we ask
>the questions), and I think we can simply start with the above mailing list
>and see how many people subscribe.

Hmm... since we have the assistance from the Charleroi city people it's not
so difficult to talk to the hotels. They are used to it, at least the
business hotels. If we don't know how many people, ok, so lets talk about
rates for at least 40 / 80 / 120 people. The people have to register
themselfs in the hotel (and, of course, to the conference) early enough to
get the discount.

So, if we have OUR registration formular up and running, we'll see the count
of students, business people etc. and can talk to the hotels. If there are
39 instead of 40 people than the hotel won't complain - they have at least
39 bookings, thats more than zero. Ok, if there is only ONE hotel in
Chareloi then we have maybe a different situation :-)

For the students I thoughted about two possibilites:
a) "Jugendherbergen": (youth hostel ?) - don't know the word, but that are
cheap accomodations - we should just reserve enough beds
b) Families - with the support of the local city

Who is from Chareloi, by the way? Maybe it's neccessary to send manpower to
Chareloi from time to time to support...

Andrew




From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Sat Feb 16 07:41:20 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:41:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget, Sponsoring and
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEEFDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hmmm.... thinking about budget:

>From my student times I know that one can raise more money if you go around
and say "please" to as many companies as possible. I've not done this
myself... I was surprised to see the amount of money, spend without any
"logos", posters or so. Ok, it's dot-com-down-time now...

Aren't there any webrings of python / zope users?

I can offer sponsoring support for germany: my assistant can call companies,
which officially use python and/or zope, and ask them very politly (we shut
down your zope server remotly if not ;-) for a contribution.

We have to find out this companies before, of course. And we have to make
clear that the python conference is a nonprofit organisation, and the money
is for the costs and for the students.

Andrew





From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Sat Feb 16 07:31:18 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:31:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Logo's
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEEFDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

The first draft of a logo is hopefully avaiable on Monday evening...

But its coming from a professional designer and worth waiting. Hope so, at
least :-)

Andrew



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Sat Feb 16 08:05:20 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:05:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEEGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

I've created a BudgetTeam Page: http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/BudgetTeam

I've joined the team :-)

I've put in a whole lot of todo's - roughly sorted in logical/chronological
order

Questions:
- Have VIPs (Guido,...) to pay for accomodation?

Andrew



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Sat Feb 16 08:42:40 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 09:42:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Public Relations & Monty Python
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEEHDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hmm... thinking about public relations and press...

what about to contact someone from Monty Python and ask them if they support
the EPC? And if so, maybe someone wants to come and see the neerds? And
maybe, maybe someone would have fun to make an sketch?

Besides the fun it would draw more attentions from the press "mysterical
group of neerds invent with support of Monty Python a way to talk to
directly to fanged rabbits via computers, your honor" :)

Also we should inform our fellow humor pythoniasts (people, sites) about our
event...

Are there any contacts to Monty Python already?

Ok, one way to scare the business people *laugh* , but one should not forget
our roots...

Andrew



From mal@lemburg.com  Sat Feb 16 10:48:02 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 11:48:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> 
> Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>:
>
> > It's Python Python Python first, and there'll be a Zope track.
> 
> Good, but then I see an inconsistency between "EuroPython"
> and "European Python and Zope Conference". Ideally, I feel
> like it should be "European Python Conference 2002" and
> "EPC 2002" (like IPC10), with some subtitle emphasizing
> Zope like "The first Major European Python and Zope Mee-
> ting".

+1

Is there still time to change this ?

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From sf@fermigier.com  Sat Feb 16 11:02:00 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:02:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com>; from mal@lemburg.com on Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 11:48:02AM +0100
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr>

On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 11:48:02AM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Dinu Gherman wrote:
> >=20
> > Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>:
> >
> > > It's Python Python Python first, and there'll be a Zope track.
> >=20
> > Good, but then I see an inconsistency between "EuroPython"
> > and "European Python and Zope Conference". Ideally, I feel
> > like it should be "European Python Conference 2002" and
> > "EPC 2002" (like IPC10), with some subtitle emphasizing
> > Zope like "The first Major European Python and Zope Mee-
> > ting".
>=20
> +1

No, we already settled for "European Python and Zope Conference". That
would make it "EPZC 2002" if you like, but I thought that everyone did
agree not to remmove Zope from the title.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Sat Feb 16 11:43:13 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:43:13 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Public Relations & Monty Python
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEEHDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202161242530.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Also we should inform our fellow humor pythoniasts (people, sites) about our
> event...

See http://www.europython.org/wiki/PressReleasePress for that.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Sat Feb 16 11:47:21 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 12:47:21 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202161243400.7256-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> > Good, but then I see an inconsistency between "EuroPython"
> > and "European Python and Zope Conference". Ideally, I feel
> > like it should be "European Python Conference 2002" and
> > "EPC 2002" (like IPC10), with some subtitle emphasizing
> > Zope like "The first Major European Python and Zope Mee-
> > ting".
> 
> +1

Same here. Zope is written is Python. The conference is about Python and
is an ideal place for Zope folks to get together. More people, more fun.
But EuroPythonZope might confuse the outside world that will end up
thinking Python is The Solution for building scientific web sites and Zope
is the other name of an ASP-like programming language.

See watta mean ?

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From sf@fermigier.com  Sat Feb 16 12:25:16 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:25:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr>; from sf@fermigier.com on Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 12:02:00PM +0100
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com> <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr>

On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 12:02:00PM +0100, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
>=20
> No, we already settled for "European Python and Zope Conference". That
> would make it "EPZC 2002" if you like, but I thought that everyone did
> agree not to remmove Zope from the title.

One of the arguments would be that for many EuroZopers it's important the=
re
there is a Zope conference labeled as such, and not just a Zope track dur=
ing a
Python (or Linux, or whatever) Conference.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From mal@lemburg.com  Sat Feb 16 12:35:19 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:35:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com> <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr> <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr>
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Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 12:02:00PM +0100, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> >
> > No, we already settled for "European Python and Zope Conference". That
> > would make it "EPZC 2002" if you like, but I thought that everyone did
> > agree not to remmove Zope from the title.
> 
> One of the arguments would be that for many EuroZopers it's important there
> there is a Zope conference labeled as such, and not just a Zope track during a
> Python (or Linux, or whatever) Conference.

How about this:

"""
Announcing:

                 European Python Conference 2002 
                           (EPC 2002)

          The First Major Python and Zope Event in Europe

"""

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From sf@fermigier.com  Sat Feb 16 12:39:56 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:39:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <3C6E5207.BFEF03F5@lemburg.com>; from mal@lemburg.com on Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 01:35:19PM +0100
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Message-ID: <20020216133956.E71674@math.jussieu.fr>

On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 01:35:19PM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> >=20
> > On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 12:02:00PM +0100, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> > >
> > > No, we already settled for "European Python and Zope Conference". T=
hat
> > > would make it "EPZC 2002" if you like, but I thought that everyone =
did
> > > agree not to remmove Zope from the title.
> >=20
> > One of the arguments would be that for many EuroZopers it's important=
 there
> > there is a Zope conference labeled as such, and not just a Zope track=
 during a
> > Python (or Linux, or whatever) Conference.
>=20
> How about this:
>=20
> """
> Announcing:
>=20
>                  European Python Conference 2002=20
>                            (EPC 2002)
>=20
>           The First Major Python and Zope Event in Europe
>=20
> """

Sorry, but I don't buy it. I'd much rather see:

"""
Announcing:

              European Python and Zope Conference 2002=20
                           (EPZC 2002)

          The First Major Python and Zope Event in Europe

"""

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From mal@lemburg.com  Sat Feb 16 12:43:25 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:43:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com> <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr> <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <3C6E53ED.53DB5C47@lemburg.com>

Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 12:02:00PM +0100, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> >
> > No, we already settled for "European Python and Zope Conference". That
> > would make it "EPZC 2002" if you like, but I thought that everyone did
> > agree not to remmove Zope from the title.
> 
> One of the arguments would be that for many EuroZopers it's important there
> there is a Zope conference labeled as such, and not just a Zope track during a
> Python (or Linux, or whatever) Conference.

I can understand that Zopers would like to see Zope in the
title, but the same is probably true for users of many other 
Python applications, such as for example Webware. By making 
Python more prominent, the benefits we achieve reach out to 
all Python applications equally.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From sf@fermigier.com  Sat Feb 16 12:50:05 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:50:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <3C6E53ED.53DB5C47@lemburg.com>; from mal@lemburg.com on Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 01:43:25PM +0100
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com> <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr> <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr> <3C6E53ED.53DB5C47@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020216135005.A77046@math.jussieu.fr>

On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 01:43:25PM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> >=20
> > On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 12:02:00PM +0100, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> > >
> > > No, we already settled for "European Python and Zope Conference". T=
hat
> > > would make it "EPZC 2002" if you like, but I thought that everyone =
did
> > > agree not to remmove Zope from the title.
> >=20
> > One of the arguments would be that for many EuroZopers it's important=
 there
> > there is a Zope conference labeled as such, and not just a Zope track=
 during a
> > Python (or Linux, or whatever) Conference.
>=20
> I can understand that Zopers would like to see Zope in the
> title, but the same is probably true for users of many other=20
> Python applications, such as for example Webware. By making=20
> Python more prominent, the benefits we achieve reach out to=20
> all Python applications equally.

I don't believe removing "Zope" from the title will benefit in anyway
to the Webware, eGenix, etc. people.

I firmly believe, OTOH, that putting "Zope" in the title will bring more
people and more attention (press, etc.) to the conference.

Anyway, other people in this list will probably want to express their opi=
nion
before the title of the conference is changed.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From mal@lemburg.com  Sat Feb 16 13:17:24 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:17:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title (Press Release German finished)
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com> <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr> <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr> <3C6E53ED.53DB5C47@lemburg.com> <20020216135005.A77046@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <3C6E5BE4.E796A38@lemburg.com>

Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> 
> On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 01:43:25PM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 12:02:00PM +0100, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No, we already settled for "European Python and Zope Conference". That
> > > > would make it "EPZC 2002" if you like, but I thought that everyone did
> > > > agree not to remmove Zope from the title.
> > >
> > > One of the arguments would be that for many EuroZopers it's important there
> > > there is a Zope conference labeled as such, and not just a Zope track during a
> > > Python (or Linux, or whatever) Conference.
> >
> > I can understand that Zopers would like to see Zope in the
> > title, but the same is probably true for users of many other
> > Python applications, such as for example Webware. By making
> > Python more prominent, the benefits we achieve reach out to
> > all Python applications equally.
> 
> I don't believe removing "Zope" from the title will benefit in anyway
> to the Webware, eGenix, etc. people.

Ah, that's not what I am after. The conference is *not* about
products or companies. It's about Python.

If I would want to reach out to potential customers, I'd go 
to the CeBIT, an O'Reilly conference, Internet World or some 
other major event.
 
> I firmly believe, OTOH, that putting "Zope" in the title will bring more
> people and more attention (press, etc.) to the conference.

The website is already named EuroPython, the mailing list
as well. The EuroPython.org web site mentions EuroPython as title
of the conference.

We have already made Zope very prominent in the conference
press release and the conference information. This should 
generate enough awareness for potentially interested Zope users 
to come to the conference and perhaps learn more about what is 
actually doing all the work inside Zope.
 
> Anyway, other people in this list will probably want to express their opinion
> before the title of the conference is changed.

Agreed.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Sat Feb 16 15:53:34 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 16:53:34 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Conference title (Press Release German finished)
In-Reply-To: <3C6E5BE4.E796A38@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEEJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi,

are we going to have a war about the conference title? :-)

Who's going to enlist me and what money/advantages do I get for doing so?
*sarcastic*grin*

We should not forget that beehieve is organizing the Zope BBQ in April, and
they changed their planning so that there is no conflict between both
events. As I understood it, the Zope BBQ ist Z*O*P*E only, and since there
also many EuroZope people attending it's also a sort of europa-wide event.
At least as I understood it.

As well I understand the wish to draw as many people as possible, including
as many ZOPEists as possible.

If I compare the keynote-speakers (Zope BBQ: Jim Fulton, Python: Guido) I
would say the EPC is a Python event, and Zope is well enough represented
throu the subtitle, the tracks and the press release.

IMHO, we should focus more on getting valueable press, announcements in
mailing lists, links/stories on the front pages of popular web sites to draw
people instead of discussing the title of the conference.

Hups, I did it... I have choosen my side *grin*

Andrew







From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 16 16:34:28 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:34:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <3C6D91A1.40F5E772@lemburg.com>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com> <200202151425.g1FEPSGo005252@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215222731.GB17939@vet.uu.nl> <3C6D91A1.40F5E772@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020216163428.GA19302@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Martijn Faassen wrote:
> > 
> > Laura Creighton wrote:
> > > Free accomodation and conference entry is all we can offer, correct?
> > 
> > Right now we have no money for free accomodation, so we can't offer that,
> > and free conference entry needs to be discussed in the general discussion
> > on budget. I'd like to offer speakers *something* at least; perhaps
> > we can have a student rate which also applies to speakers.
> 
> If at all possible, speakers should not have to pay for the 
> conference -- they already put enough effort into preparing 
> the talk.

Agreed.

> Since budgets are always about legal responsibility, you should
> start thinking about defining the conference legal entities.
> 
> Since the conference team is officially cited at Charleroi, 
> that's probably where you should incorporate the foundation. 
> I hope that these things don't take too long. Donations will 
> have to go to the foundation's bank account and we can't talk 
> about budgets until the first donations start pouring in...

Okay, I hope we can start something like this moving. If not in
Charleroi, then somewhere else..

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 16 16:36:44 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:36:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020216163644.GB19302@vet.uu.nl>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>:
> 
> > > * who is the, somewhat magic, EuroPython Conf.Team?
> > 
> > That's us. We're somewhat magic. :)
> > 
> > Please note that the whole process was started when I just ad-hoc
> > started
> > mailing a bunch of people I knew about in the python and zope worlds
> > whether they were interested in a conference. They were, and here we
> > are. :) 
> 
> Well, yes, but how should somebody *outside* know that?
> To somebody new (press, sponsors, ...) "Conference Team"
> just doesn't mean much, I think. But I also have no better
> solution to offer.

We offer a list of contacts at the bottom. Perhaps we should plaster
'conference team representatives' above it? :)

> > > * how many participants are eyxpected?
> > 
> > 200-300, but possibly quite a bit more if we're lucky. I don't think
> > there'll be less than 200.
> 
> Right, but then it should be in the announcementm if only as a
> figure like 250-350.

We should be announcing how many people will show up? Is that common
practice? We don't know how many people will show up, and I don't want
to announce stuff we don't know about.

> > It's Python Python Python first, and there'll be a Zope track.
> 
> Good, but then I see an inconsistency between "EuroPython"
> and "European Python and Zope Conference". Ideally, I feel
> like it should be "European Python Conference 2002" and 
> "EPC 2002" (like IPC10), with some subtitle emphasizing 
> Zope like "The first Major European Python and Zope Mee-
> ting".

Perhaps so, if you think that Python users who don't use Zope will be
so put off by the current title that they won't show up.

Regards,

Martijn



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Sat Feb 16 16:18:16 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:18:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Alternative Frontpage
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEEKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi,

since I don't like scrolling the frontpage all the time I played around with
table HTML tags.

You can see the result in

   http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/AlternativeFrontPage

Speaks anything against changing the frontpage according to my layout? I
don't wanted to offend everbody by just changing it :-)

I can do a bit more layouting (making every table cell blink in different
colors and speeds, automatically popping up of different ad windows, stuff
like that ;-) if wished...

Andrew



From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Sat Feb 16 18:46:29 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:46:29 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title (Press Release German finished)
In-Reply-To: <20020216163644.GB19302@vet.uu.nl>
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Message-ID: <1013885189.3c6ea9055b02f@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>:

> > Well, yes, but how should somebody *outside* know that?
> > To somebody new (press, sponsors, ...) "Conference Team"
> > just doesn't mean much, I think. But I also have no better
> > solution to offer.
> 
> We offer a list of contacts at the bottom. Perhaps we should plaster
> 'conference team representatives' above it? :)

Yep, why not?


> > Right, but then it should be in the announcementm if only as a
> > figure like 250-350.
> 
> We should be announcing how many people will show up? Is that 
common
> practice? We don't know how many people will show up, and I don't 
want
> to announce stuff we don't know about.

Right, but we can say how much we expect, which will be useful
information for sponsors and people writing about the event.
nobody wants to mention an event with 50 lonely Pythonistas.


> > Good, but then I see an inconsistency between "EuroPython"
> > and "European Python and Zope Conference". Ideally, I feel
> > like it should be "European Python Conference 2002" and 
> > "EPC 2002" (like IPC10), with some subtitle emphasizing 
> > Zope like "The first Major European Python and Zope Mee-
> > ting".
> 
> Perhaps so, if you think that Python users who don't use Zope will be
> so put off by the current title that they won't show up.

That's not quite the point. The real point is focus. Of course
each Python application camp would like to appear in the
title, and although many Zopers are involved in the organi-
zation now as was likely the case for IPC8 in Wash., DC, 
(where I've been) with a huge Zope track, it was not named 
IPZC8 but just IPC8. 

How can we know there will be further "European Python
*and* Zope" conferences? If we say "First EPZC" we do
imply there will be more of them. I'm not sure this is very
realistic. There could be easily two different conference
branches, one for Python and one for Zope in Europe,
which would be great for both camps.

Worse even, look at it from a sponsor's point of view: why
should O'Reilly pay anything for a conference that is 50%
about the product of one particular company as expressed
in its very title? Why isn't this particular company a main 
sponsor of the event? Mega-worse: why should O'Reilly
pay for Guido's ticket, say, when he actually represents 
Zope corporation?? See what I mean?

The more I think about it the more reasons I find to mention
Zope only from the subtitle to the rest of the announcement,
very prominently, but not in the title. It reduces all kinds of
sources for confusion.

Best regards,

Dinu


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 16 22:58:03 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 23:58:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <3C6E5207.BFEF03F5@lemburg.com>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com> <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr> <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr> <3C6E5207.BFEF03F5@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020216225803.GA20840@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> """
> Announcing:
> 
>                  European Python Conference 2002 
>                            (EPC 2002)
> 
>           The First Major Python and Zope Event in Europe
> 
> """

That has the disadvantage of not being true. :)

There have been several Zope events in Europe in the past already, and there
will be on in April in Berlin again. I don't want to get into a 'first'
match. It might be more true for Python, but even then you can get into
a debate.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 16 23:12:28 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 00:12:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <3C6E53ED.53DB5C47@lemburg.com>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com> <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr> <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr> <3C6E53ED.53DB5C47@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020216231228.GB20840@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> I can understand that Zopers would like to see Zope in the
> title, but the same is probably true for users of many other 
> Python applications, such as for example Webware. By making 
> Python more prominent, the benefits we achieve reach out to 
> all Python applications equally.

>From the start, the goal was to make Python more prominent. We succeeded;
many people here are from the Python community only, and don't particularly
care about Zope, and want to remove it from the long name of the
conference.

Zope use in Europe is a *lot* bigger and more organized than
say, Webware use. From the start core members of the European Zope
community have been involved in the organization of this conference --
the whole thing *started* in the Zope community. We're going to have
a EuroZope Foundation member's meeting as well. I expect a significant
proportion of the people showing up will show up primarily because of 
Zope.

To attract Zope users, we want to say "__Python__ (and Zope)". I think
we're saying Python loudly enough, and we should now be careful we don't
completely get rid of the "(and Zope)" part. We're already calling the
thing EuroPython, call our website www.europython.org, our mailinglist
is called europython@python.org. The long name of the conference 
is "European Python and Zope conference 2002".

So, do we really think we're going to scare away Python-only users with
that title? I think we might scare away some Zope users if we make
it less prominent. And lose a valuable opportunity to evangelize the
wider world of Python to them, with which sometimes they're not very
familiar. Plus we'll simply get fewer people showing up. :)

That said, of course not everything hinges on the title, and we could
alter the title not to have Zope and have a subtitle which does, even
though we can't use the one proposed here (first major..).

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 16 23:17:53 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 00:17:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title (Press Release German finished)
In-Reply-To: <3C6E5BE4.E796A38@lemburg.com>
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Message-ID: <20020216231753.GC20840@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Ah, that's not what I am after. The conference is *not* about
> products or companies. It's about Python.

It's about Python (and Zope).

> If I would want to reach out to potential customers, I'd go 
> to the CeBIT, an O'Reilly conference, Internet World or some 
> other major event.

Zope users aren't potential users of Python; they're already users of
Python.

> > I firmly believe, OTOH, that putting "Zope" in the title will bring more
> > people and more attention (press, etc.) to the conference.
> 
> The website is already named EuroPython, the mailing list
> as well. The EuroPython.org web site mentions EuroPython as title
> of the conference.

Yup, that was a deliberate attempt by us in the Zope community to draw
in the Python community and make it more prominent! As I just said 
in another mail. It's been my intention from the outset. I didn't realize
we'd succeed so well that people think it is out of place in the title. :)

Should we change the title to:

European Python (and Zope) conference 2002? :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 16 23:26:20 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 00:26:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title (Press Release German finished)
In-Reply-To: <1013885189.3c6ea9055b02f@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020216163644.GB19302@vet.uu.nl> <1013885189.3c6ea9055b02f@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020216232620.GD20840@vet.uu.nl>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
[snip]
> Worse even, look at it from a sponsor's point of view: why
> should O'Reilly pay anything for a conference that is 50%
> about the product of one particular company as expressed
> in its very title?

Zope is an open source project and a lot bigger than just one company.

> Why isn't this particular company a main 
> sponsor of the event? Mega-worse: why should O'Reilly
> pay for Guido's ticket, say, when he actually represents 
> Zope corporation?? See what I mean?

No, I don't understand what you mean here.

> The more I think about it the more reasons I find to mention
> Zope only from the subtitle to the rest of the announcement,
> very prominently, but not in the title. It reduces all kinds of
> sources for confusion.

What about the following attempt at a deal -- we'll remove the word
Zope from the title and move it to a subtitle. In return, we'll get
the agreement from the people pushing for this that we'll also all
commit to doing sufficient PR to get the European Zope users to show up.
Naturally the Zope team will do the brunt of this work, but I'd like
to avoid getting any more complaints, and in fact some support.
As an example, we may want to organize a Zope3 sprint and invite a prominent
Zope architect over as a keynote speaker. That probably requires something
from the conference budget.

How does that sound?

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 16 23:30:55 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 00:30:55 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Public Relations, Registration of the people willing to come
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEEEDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <20020215225114.GI17939@vet.uu.nl> <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEEEDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020216233055.GE20840@vet.uu.nl>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> 
> 
> >> With the later informations we can talk to hotels and get special
> discounts.
> 
> Martijn wrote:
> >I think we need to be careful with this (it all depends on how we ask
> >the questions), and I think we can simply start with the above mailing list
> >and see how many people subscribe.

I think something went wrong with the context here. I was talking we
should be careful doing pre-registrations and questionnaires before we
actually have enough infrastructure set up to handle them.

> Hmm... since we have the assistance from the Charleroi city people it's not
> so difficult to talk to the hotels. They are used to it, at least the
> business hotels. If we don't know how many people, ok, so lets talk about
> rates for at least 40 / 80 / 120 people. The people have to register
> themselfs in the hotel (and, of course, to the conference) early enough to
> get the discount.

Sure, that sounds like a good idea. I think looking into this is a good
project.

> So, if we have OUR registration formular up and running, we'll see the count
> of students, business people etc. and can talk to the hotels. If there are
> 39 instead of 40 people than the hotel won't complain - they have at least
> 39 bookings, thats more than zero. Ok, if there is only ONE hotel in
> Chareloi then we have maybe a different situation :-)

Ah, right. That's a good point. But let's not make it the registration,
as we don't know enough right now about the budget to handle registration.
Let's just start a mailing list for those interested, along with a questionairre
asking those interested for some more details about themselves (whether they're
students, and such).

> For the students I thoughted about two possibilites:
> a) "Jugendherbergen": (youth hostel ?) - don't know the word, but that are
> cheap accomodations - we should just reserve enough beds
> b) Families - with the support of the local city
> 
> Who is from Chareloi, by the way? Maybe it's neccessary to send manpower to
> Chareloi from time to time to support...

Denis Frere is the main contact for Charleroi. I think it certainly makes
sense to have at least one other meeting at Charleroi before the actual
conference, sometime in the following months.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 16 23:36:35 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 00:36:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Alternative Frontpage
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEEKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEEKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020216233635.GF20840@vet.uu.nl>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> since I don't like scrolling the frontpage all the time I played around with
> table HTML tags.
> 
> You can see the result in
> 
>    http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/AlternativeFrontPage
> 
> Speaks anything against changing the frontpage according to my layout? I
> don't wanted to offend everbody by just changing it :-)
> 
> I can do a bit more layouting (making every table cell blink in different
> colors and speeds, automatically popping up of different ad windows, stuff
> like that ;-) if wished...

Hm, this one makes me have to scroll horizontally if my browser is too
small, and I prefer scrolling vertically. :) I myself prefer the
original frontpage. It's also easier to edit than a HTML table.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 16 23:42:10 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 00:42:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEEGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEEGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020216234210.GA21278@vet.uu.nl>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> I've created a BudgetTeam Page: http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/BudgetTeam
> 
> I've joined the team :-)

I've joined too. No experience with this, but I felt I should at least
be aware of what's going on there.

> I've put in a whole lot of todo's - roughly sorted in logical/chronological
> order
> 
> Questions:
> - Have VIPs (Guido,...) to pay for accomodation?

Good question. :) Again this depends on our budget. I'm sure also
some of the local Charleroi people will be able to provide some
space at home for VIPs.

Regards,

Martijn



From thomas@reulbach.com  Sun Feb 17 01:17:33 2002
From: thomas@reulbach.com (Thomas Reulbach)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 02:17:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20020217020757.00a06830@pop.puretec.de>

It think keeping Python and Zope in the title is a good decision. 
Especially business and government people will be much more attracted if 
Zope is in the main title, too. I guess we should also avoid putting Zope 
in brackets which is just ugly. Python is already emphasized correctly by 
the sequence of terms.
just my 2c

Thomas



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Sun Feb 17 03:00:13 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 04:00:13 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
In-Reply-To: <20020216234210.GA21278@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEENDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

> Andrew Smart wrote:
> > I've created a BudgetTeam Page:
> http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/BudgetTeam
> >
> > I've joined the team :-)

Welcome :-)

> I've joined too. No experience with this, but I felt I should at least
> be aware of what's going on there.

Oh, you'll see that budgeting and money is easy... if you have enough of it
:->
Else is also easy... just be sure to be the first one running ;-)

I love numbers and calculations, and I'm sure we have enough
conference-experienced people around to help out. We just have to ensure
enough manpower and intelligence for getting sponsors.

Question:

How we will handle the budget data/calculations? Is there any usable
OpenSource spreadsheet avaiable? StarOffice?

Andrew



From nico@tekNico.net  Sun Feb 17 07:35:50 2002
From: nico@tekNico.net (Nicola Larosa)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 08:35:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release in Italian
References: <3C6BCCE8.1080208@tekNico.net> <20020214163431.GE10856@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C6F5D56.1090502@tekNico.net>

[sent this yesterday, by mistake, to Martijn only]

 >> I added a page for the press release in Italian, I will translate it as
 >> soon as the deadline elapses (that was next Friday, right?).

 > Yup, tomorrow. Thanks!

It is done. (As Atrus said.)

It looks like there's some kind of bug in the Wiki, the "More Information"
section towards the end keeps going on in bold after the title, and even
more so in Italian than in English. Yes, I know we are bolder. ;^)

Anyway, the stuff is there.


-- 
"I was wondering if there's any kind of definitive nickname for Perl
programmers, the way we call ourselves Pythonistas?" - Aahz Maruch
"Masochists." - Daniel Klein

Nicola Larosa - nico@tekNico.net



From sf@fermigier.com  Sun Feb 17 08:01:45 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 09:01:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <20020216225803.GA20840@vet.uu.nl>; from faassen@vet.uu.nl on Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 11:58:03PM +0100
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com> <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr> <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr> <3C6E5207.BFEF03F5@lemburg.com> <20020216225803.GA20840@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020217090145.A75149@math.jussieu.fr>

On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 11:58:03PM +0100, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > """
> > Announcing:
> >=20
> >                  European Python Conference 2002=20
> >                            (EPC 2002)
> >=20
> >           The First Major Python and Zope Event in Europe
> >=20
> > """
>=20
> That has the disadvantage of not being true. :)

But it *is* the first First Major Python *and* Zope Event.

There has been major Python Events (in 1999) and Zope events (many)
already, but no one with the double focus.

	S.

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From js@aixtraware.de  Sun Feb 17 09:20:59 2002
From: js@aixtraware.de (Joachim Schmitz)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:20:59 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEENDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEENDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <46580000.1013937659@js>

Hi,

I want to join too, how do I do that, just editing the Page ?


--On Sonntag, Februar 17, 2002 04:00:13 +0100 Andrew Smart=20
<Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> wrote:

>> Andrew Smart wrote:
>> > I've created a BudgetTeam Page:
>> http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/BudgetTeam
>> >
>> > I've joined the team :-)
>
> Welcome :-)
>
>> I've joined too. No experience with this, but I felt I should at least
>> be aware of what's going on there.
>
> Oh, you'll see that budgeting and money is easy... if you have enough of
> it :->
> Else is also easy... just be sure to be the first one running ;-)
>
> I love numbers and calculations, and I'm sure we have enough
> conference-experienced people around to help out. We just have to ensure
> enough manpower and intelligence for getting sponsors.
>
> Question:
>
> How we will handle the budget data/calculations? Is there any usable
> OpenSource spreadsheet avaiable? StarOffice?
>
> Andrew
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython



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From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Sun Feb 17 09:53:04 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 10:53:04 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
In-Reply-To: <46580000.1013937659@js>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEEPDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Yup.


> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: europython-admin@python.org [mailto:europython-admin@python.org]Im
> Auftrag von Joachim Schmitz
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 17. Februar 2002 10:21
> An: Andrew Smart; Martijn Faassen
> Cc: Europython; denis@aragne.com
> Betreff: Re: AW: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I want to join too, how do I do that, just editing the Page ?
>
>
> --On Sonntag, Februar 17, 2002 04:00:13 +0100 Andrew Smart
> <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> wrote:
>
> >> Andrew Smart wrote:
> >> > I've created a BudgetTeam Page:
> >> http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/BudgetTeam
> >> >
> >> > I've joined the team :-)
> >
> > Welcome :-)
> >
> >> I've joined too. No experience with this, but I felt I should at least
> >> be aware of what's going on there.
> >
> > Oh, you'll see that budgeting and money is easy... if you have enough of
> > it :->
> > Else is also easy... just be sure to be the first one running ;-)
> >
> > I love numbers and calculations, and I'm sure we have enough
> > conference-experienced people around to help out. We just have to ensure
> > enough manpower and intelligence for getting sponsors.
> >
> > Question:
> >
> > How we will handle the budget data/calculations? Is there any usable
> > OpenSource spreadsheet avaiable? StarOffice?
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > EuroPython mailing list
> > EuroPython@python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>
>
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From sf@fermigier.com  Sun Feb 17 10:31:33 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 11:31:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] FSF award
Message-ID: <20020217113133.A76337@math.jussieu.fr>

Hi,

I just learnt that GvR won the FSF award this year
(http://www.fsf.org/press/2002-02-16-FSF-Award.html).

Should we add something abour it in the press release ?

	S.

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From hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr  Sun Feb 17 11:25:57 2002
From: hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr (Konrad Hinsen)
Date: 17 Feb 2002 12:25:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <20020215224520.GG17939@vet.uu.nl>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
 <m3aduag2rh.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
 <20020215224520.GG17939@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <m3adu8xsca.fsf@localhost.localdomain>

Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl> writes:

> Does the formal/legalese/old fashioned complaint also apply to the English
> text?

Not for my taste, but then I am not a native English speaker, so I'll
leave that question to others.

Konrad.
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From mal@lemburg.com  Sun Feb 17 13:04:11 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:04:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title (Press Release German finished)
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020216163644.GB19302@vet.uu.nl> <1013885189.3c6ea9055b02f@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020216232620.GD20840@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C6FAA4B.D90CB3CC@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> What about the following attempt at a deal -- we'll remove the word
> Zope from the title and move it to a subtitle. In return, we'll get
> the agreement from the people pushing for this that we'll also all
> commit to doing sufficient PR to get the European Zope users to show up.
> Naturally the Zope team will do the brunt of this work, but I'd like
> to avoid getting any more complaints, and in fact some support.
> As an example, we may want to organize a Zope3 sprint and invite a prominent
> Zope architect over as a keynote speaker. That probably requires something
> from the conference budget.
> 
> How does that sound?

+1

Actually, my proposal for the first few lines of the press release 
aimed for exactly this... just seems that I didn't get the wording
right.

-- 
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CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
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From sf@fermigier.com  Sun Feb 17 13:12:06 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:12:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title (Press Release German finished)
In-Reply-To: <3C6FAA4B.D90CB3CC@lemburg.com>; from mal@lemburg.com on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 02:04:11PM +0100
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020216163644.GB19302@vet.uu.nl> <1013885189.3c6ea9055b02f@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020216232620.GD20840@vet.uu.nl> <3C6FAA4B.D90CB3CC@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020217141206.A2770@math.jussieu.fr>

On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 02:04:11PM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Martijn Faassen wrote:
> >=20
> > What about the following attempt at a deal -- we'll remove the word
> > Zope from the title and move it to a subtitle. In return, we'll get
> > the agreement from the people pushing for this that we'll also all
> > commit to doing sufficient PR to get the European Zope users to show =
up.
> > Naturally the Zope team will do the brunt of this work, but I'd like
> > to avoid getting any more complaints, and in fact some support.
> > As an example, we may want to organize a Zope3 sprint and invite a pr=
ominent
> > Zope architect over as a keynote speaker. That probably requires some=
thing
> > from the conference budget.
> >=20
> > How does that sound?
>=20
> +1

-1

	S.

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From th.@gmx.de  Sun Feb 17 13:16:19 2002
From: th.@gmx.de (Thorsten Horstmann)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:16:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] german press release (Korrekturlesen), contacts
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEDIDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <3C6FAD23.FDA5E46E@gmx.de>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> the german translation is on the net. I'm currently working over it,
> correcting some spelling (the translator was no tekki). Need someone German
> to look over it, in an hour or two.

mir wuerde "Vortragsreihe" besser als Uebersetzung von "Track" gefallen
als "Veranstaltungsreihe".

Ansonsten ist die Uebersetzung IMHO gut. Wann ist die deadline fuer
Aenderungen?

Gruss,
  -Thorsten


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Sun Feb 17 13:17:26 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:17:26 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title (Press Release German finished)
In-Reply-To: <20020216232620.GD20840@vet.uu.nl>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020216163644.GB19302@vet.uu.nl> <1013885189.3c6ea9055b02f@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020216232620.GD20840@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <1013951846.3c6fad663726c@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>:

> What about the following attempt at a deal -- we'll remove the word
>  Zope from the title and move it to a subtitle. [...]
> 
> How does that sound?

That's basically what I suggested. No need for being
more radical than that. It would surprise me if the Zope
camp would no longer come to the event because of 
that.

+1

Dinu


From mal@lemburg.com  Sun Feb 17 13:46:20 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:46:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] german press release (Korrekturlesen), contacts
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEDIDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <3C6FAD23.FDA5E46E@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <3C6FB42C.38B10873@lemburg.com>

[Please note: mailing list language is English]

Thorsten Horstmann wrote:
> 
> Andrew Smart wrote:
> > the german translation is on the net. I'm currently working over it,
> > correcting some spelling (the translator was no tekki). Need someone German
> > to look over it, in an hour or two.
> 
> mir wuerde "Vortragsreihe" besser als Uebersetzung von "Track" gefallen
> als "Veranstaltungsreihe".

Agreed.
 
> Ansonsten ist die Uebersetzung IMHO gut. Wann ist die deadline fuer
> Aenderungen?

The deadline was last friday, but since the press release won't go
out until early next week, changes are still possible. 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From lac@strakt.com  Sun Feb 17 13:47:35 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 14:47:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: Message from Dinu Gherman <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de>
 of "Sat, 16 Feb 2002 00:29:08 +0100." <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl>  <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <200202171347.g1HDlZGo008587@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> Dinu
>
> Good, but then I see an inconsistency between "EuroPython"
> and "European Python and Zope Conference". Ideally, I feel
> like it should be "European Python Conference 2002" and 
> "EPC 2002" (like IPC10), with some subtitle emphasizing 
> Zope like "The first Major European Python and Zope Mee-
> ting".
> 
> Dinu

I agree. 

Laura


From lac@strakt.com  Sun Feb 17 14:23:16 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:23:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: Message from Stefane Fermigier <sf@fermigier.com>
 of "Sat, 16 Feb 2002 13:25:16 +0100." <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com> <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr>  <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <200202171423.g1HENGGo009054@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 12:02:00PM +0100, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> 
> One of the arguments would be that for many EuroZopers it's important there
> there is a Zope conference labeled as such, and not just a Zope track during a
> Python (or Linux, or whatever) Conference.
> 
> 	S.

In a sincere effort to understand - why is this important?  Are their
feelings already hurt for some reason?  Are there lots of people who
only use Zope and don't care about Python the language at all?  Did
this start out as a Zope Conference and we don't want to appear to be
taking it over?  

Puzzled,
Laura 


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Sun Feb 17 14:21:51 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:21:51 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] german press release (Korrekturlesen), contacts
In-Reply-To: <3C6FAD23.FDA5E46E@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEFCDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>


> Auftrag von Thorsten Horstmann
>
> mir wuerde "Vortragsreihe" besser als Uebersetzung von "Track" gefallen
> als "Veranstaltungsreihe".

Sound's good for me... "Veranstaltungsreihe" was just the first association
and I was a bit in the hurry to get it finished last Friday.

Andrew



From lac@strakt.com  Sun Feb 17 14:54:39 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 15:54:39 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
In-Reply-To: Message from "Andrew Smart" <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
 of "Sun, 17 Feb 2002 04:00:13 +0100." <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEENDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEENDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <200202171454.g1HEsdGo009677@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

StarOffice works.  We use it here.  But it is also _enormous_, too big to
download.  Anybody have anything smaller?

Laura


From lac@strakt.com  Sun Feb 17 15:41:28 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 16:41:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EU grants
Message-ID: <200202171541.g1HFfSIO010158@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

I found out how to get one.
http://www.cordis.lu/ist/calls/200104.htm
WE ARE TOO LATE.  They need 6 months notice.  Otherwise we could have got
up to half our costs paid.

sorry about that,
Laura Creighton


From obenassy@free.fr  Sun Feb 17 17:18:31 2002
From: obenassy@free.fr (Odile =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E9nassy?=)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:18:31 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEENDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <200202171454.g1HEsdGo009677@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <3C6FE5E7.7923832B@free.fr>

Laura Creighton a =E9crit :
> =

> StarOffice works.  We use it here.  But it is also _enormous_, too big =
to
> download.  Anybody have anything smaller?
> =


I've heard good things about SIAG
http://siag.nu


-- =

Odile B=E9nassy                  http://obenassy.free.fr/
Journ=E9es du Logiciel Libre dans l'Education     =

http://www.libresoftware-educ.org


From sf@fermigier.com  Sun Feb 17 17:27:12 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:27:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <200202171423.g1HENGGo009054@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>; from lac@strakt.com on Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 03:23:16PM +0100
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com> <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr> <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr> <sf@fermigier.com> <200202171423.g1HENGGo009054@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020217182712.B2770@math.jussieu.fr>

On Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 03:23:16PM +0100, Laura Creighton wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 12:02:00PM +0100, Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> >=20
> > One of the arguments would be that for many EuroZopers it's important=
 there
> > there is a Zope conference labeled as such, and not just a Zope track=
 during a
> > Python (or Linux, or whatever) Conference.
> >=20
> > 	S.
>=20
> In a sincere effort to understand - why is this important?  Are their
> feelings already hurt for some reason?  Are there lots of people who
> only use Zope and don't care about Python the language at all?  Did
> this start out as a Zope Conference and we don't want to appear to be
> taking it over? =20

AFAICT, this started as a Python and Zope conference, back when we
discussed it in Charleroi.

We agreed that we put the emphasis on Python, but not to the point to
not put Zope in the title.

And to reply to your question:

1) I think there is a non neglegible proportion of Zope users who
would use it anyway of it was written in Perl, Java, Ruby or CAML.
There is also a number of business people who would even prefer that Zope
was written in Java, and are very hard (most of the time, impossible)
to convince that having Zope written in Python is the good choice.

2) Speaking for myself, my feelings would not be hurt, since I'm a fan
of the Python language since way before Zope was even conceived, but I st=
ill
this the right decision, for the conference, is to put Zope in the title.

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From mal@lemburg.com  Sun Feb 17 17:45:46 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:45:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EU grants
References: <200202171541.g1HFfSIO010158@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <3C6FEC4A.3C0059DC@lemburg.com>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> 
> I found out how to get one.
> http://www.cordis.lu/ist/calls/200104.htm
> WE ARE TOO LATE.  They need 6 months notice.  Otherwise we could have got
> up to half our costs paid.

Well, maybe could use this program for EPC 2003 ?! (Please upload
the link to the wiki. Thanks.)

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From js@aixtraware.de  Sun Feb 17 18:14:28 2002
From: js@aixtraware.de (Joachim Schmitz)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:14:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <20020217182712.B2770@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
 <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de>
 <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl>
 <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de>
 <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com> <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr>
 <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr> <sf@fermigier.com>
 <200202171423.g1HENGGo009054@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
 <20020217182712.B2770@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <26390000.1013969668@js>


--On Sonntag, Februar 17, 2002 18:27:12 +0100 Stefane Fermigier=20
<sf@fermigier.com> wrote:

> And to reply to your question:
>
> 1) I think there is a non neglegible proportion of Zope users who
> would use it anyway of it was written in Perl, Java, Ruby or CAML.
> There is also a number of business people who would even prefer that Zope
> was written in Java, and are very hard (most of the time, impossible)
> to convince that having Zope written in Python is the good choice.
>
> 2) Speaking for myself, my feelings would not be hurt, since I'm a fan
> of the Python language since way before Zope was even conceived, but I
> still this the right decision, for the conference, is to put Zope in the
> title.
>

100 % agreed !!!




best regards                 Joachim Schmitz (1. chairman)
----------------------------------------------------------
EuroZope e.V.  H=FCsgenstr. 33a  D-52457 Aldenhoven  Germany
phone: +49-2464-8851                fax  : +49-2464-905163
----------------------------------------------------------
Key fingerprint =3D DA10 CC82 62F8 1DBB 39A1  1EDC 725B 3317 A8D7 C3A6
key server: http://germany.keyserver.net/en/



From js@aixtraware.de  Sun Feb 17 18:12:13 2002
From: js@aixtraware.de (Joachim Schmitz)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 19:12:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] government money, socialism et al.
In-Reply-To: <20020215222731.GB17939@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr>
 <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
 <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl>
 <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
 <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com>
 <200202151425.g1FEPSGo005252@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
 <20020215222731.GB17939@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <25820000.1013969533@js>

Hi Martijn,


--On Freitag, Februar 15, 2002 23:27:31 +0100 Martijn Faassen=20
<faassen@vet.uu.nl> wrote:
>
> I'm at a loss on how to proceed here, and some advice would be good.
> Perhaps the smartest thing to do is start a special foundation to
> run the conference, but I'm not sure how easy/quickly we can do that.
>

I want to offer the help of EuroZope e.V. here. We have the logistics=20
already setup for this purpose.

Also the EuroZope e.V. now definetly has a booth at the CeBit and we could=20
use this to promote Zope too.



best regards                 Joachim Schmitz (1. chairman)
----------------------------------------------------------
EuroZope e.V.  H=FCsgenstr. 33a  D-52457 Aldenhoven  Germany
phone: +49-2464-8851                fax  : +49-2464-905163
----------------------------------------------------------
Key fingerprint =3D DA10 CC82 62F8 1DBB 39A1  1EDC 725B 3317 A8D7 C3A6
key server: http://germany.keyserver.net/en/



From lac@strakt.com  Sun Feb 17 19:25:36 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 20:25:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EU grants
In-Reply-To: Message from "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com>
 of "Sun, 17 Feb 2002 18:45:46 +0100." <3C6FEC4A.3C0059DC@lemburg.com>
References: <200202171541.g1HFfSIO010158@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>  <3C6FEC4A.3C0059DC@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <200202171925.g1HJPaGo010521@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> Laura Creighton wrote:
> > 
> > I found out how to get one.
> > http://www.cordis.lu/ist/calls/200104.htm
> > WE ARE TOO LATE.  They need 6 months notice.  Otherwise we could have got
> > up to half our costs paid.
> 
> Well, maybe could use this program for EPC 2003 ?! (Please upload
> the link to the wiki. Thanks.)

It's 5 months, not 6 - made a typo as I raced out the door.  We are
still too late.  The link is now in the wiki.

Laura


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb 18 02:32:20 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 03:32:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Bank account [Was: government money, socialism et al.]
In-Reply-To: <25820000.1013969533@js>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com> <200202151425.g1FEPSGo005252@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215222731.GB17939@vet.uu.nl> <25820000.1013969533@js>
Message-ID: <20020218033220.E8743@carolo.net>

Le Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 07:12:13PM +0100, Joachim Schmitz pianota:
> I want to offer the help of EuroZope e.V. here. We have the logistics 
> already setup for this purpose.

Thanks, President, if you can accept Visa/AnyOther card payments, this
could help, indeed.

I also proposed (during the December meeting) to use P3B bank account.
The first advantage I see is that I've access to it, and, as local
contact, I could have to pay things before the conference happens.
I can guarantee full view on the bank statements, we've nothing to hide.
(Should I insist on the fact that P3B is a non-profit org. ?)

So, if Joachim (well, I mean EuroZope) can receive the money and send
it on P3B bank account, this could be the easiest way for the moment.


Now, if many of you think it would be better to create a europython
organization before the event, and a own EuroPython bank account, it's
possible too. Though, I think it would take more time than we can spend.


Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From denis@aragne.com  Mon Feb 18 03:57:28 2002
From: denis@aragne.com (Denis =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E8re?=)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 04:57:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title (Press Release German finished)
In-Reply-To: <20020216232620.GD20840@vet.uu.nl>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020216163644.GB19302@vet.uu.nl> <1013885189.3c6ea9055b02f@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020216232620.GD20840@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020218045728.F8743@carolo.net>

Le Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:26:20AM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> 
> What about the following attempt at a deal -- we'll remove the word
> Zope from the title and move it to a subtitle. In return, we'll get
> the agreement from the people pushing for this that we'll also all
> commit to doing sufficient PR to get the European Zope users to show up.
> Naturally the Zope team will do the brunt of this work, but I'd like
> to avoid getting any more complaints, and in fact some support.
> As an example, we may want to organize a Zope3 sprint and invite a prominent
> Zope architect over as a keynote speaker. That probably requires something
> from the conference budget.
> 
> How does that sound?

+1

I've read our first mails again.
Though the spark came from a EuroZope discussion, I answered :

--------quoting me   Fri, 16 Nov 2001 ------------------------------ 
> we've been thinking of organizing a Python Conference for months.
--------------------------------------------------------------------

So, I feel consistent today.

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb 18 04:09:50 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:09:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] GermanTravelGuide
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEEBDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEEBDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020218050950.G8743@carolo.net>

Le Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 10:21:04PM +0100, Andrew Smart pianota:
> Hi folks,
>=20
> just added a GermanTravelGuide to the net.
> Gives 2 links to travel informations, and hints about the way and the
> traveltime from 3 directions (Hannover, K=F6ln/Colonge and Stuttgart), =
each
> with car and rail.

Thanks.

> Where is the nearest airport? Liege? Br=FCssel?

Charleroi :-)
But there are only specific lines covered essentially by Ryan Air.
(See their website).

For other provenances/destinations, Brussels is the nearest.=20

> I did it in German, since it is a GermanTravelGuide. Is that ok? Or sho=
uld
> be held in english?

Both if you want. :-)

One of us here is preparing a hotel list and we'll contact them to ask
for group prices or any other advantage.

Denis

--=20
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org=20
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb 18 04:14:30 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:14:30 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Removing the 20,000
In-Reply-To: <20020215223438.GD17939@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020215223438.GD17939@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020218051430.H8743@carolo.net>

Le Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 11:34:38PM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> Though it wasn't in the french one.

The french one will be reviewed against last english version.
(Que les volontaires l=E8vent le doigt ...)

Denis

--=20
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org=20
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb 18 04:21:48 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:21:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget, Sponsoring and
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEEFDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEEFDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020218052148.I8743@carolo.net>

Le Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 08:41:20AM +0100, Andrew Smart pianota:
> I can offer sponsoring support for germany: my assistant can call companies,
> which officially use python and/or zope, and ask them very politly (we shut
> down your zope server remotly if not ;-) for a contribution.

That shouldn't hurt. :-)

> We have to find out this companies before, of course. And we have to make
> clear that the python conference is a nonprofit organisation,

Of course, it's a non-profit organization.

> and the money is for the costs and for the students.

Should there be money left ?
If so, it could be funds for the next conference, too.

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb 18 04:43:03 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:43:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Public Relations, Registration of the people willing to come
In-Reply-To: <20020216233055.GE20840@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020215225114.GI17939@vet.uu.nl> <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEEEDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <20020216233055.GE20840@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020218054303.J8743@carolo.net>

Le Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 12:30:55AM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> [Hotels and such]

As I told in an another mail : we started a list.
We need some time to contact them.

> Let's just start a mailing list for those interested, along with
> a questionairre asking those interested for some more details about
> themselves (whether they're students, and such).

And if people are willing to help, they could answer a lot more
questions :
- do they wish organized transportation from the hotel to the conference
  point ?
- would they like evening social events and if yes, which kind ?
- ...
and perhaps a last one too :
- what are they willing to pay for such a conference.

> Denis Frere is the main contact for Charleroi. I think it certainly
> makes sense to have at least one other meeting at Charleroi before
> the actual conference, sometime in the following months.

You're always welcome, of course.
We could settle a date. Not too soon so that we have more data to
discuss. Not too late so that we have time to correct wrong things.

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb 18 04:50:41 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:50:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] FSF award
In-Reply-To: <20020217113133.A76337@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <20020217113133.A76337@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <20020218055041.K8743@carolo.net>

Le Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 11:31:33AM +0100, Stefane Fermigier pianota:
> I just learnt that GvR won the FSF award this year
> (http://www.fsf.org/press/2002-02-16-FSF-Award.html).

Yes. I've been spending my whole week-end at FOSDEM and I missed him !

Anyway, got a few good contacts there.

> Should we add something abour it in the press release ?

I would personnally be pleased.

Denis

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OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
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From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb 18 04:57:48 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 05:57:48 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
In-Reply-To: <200202171454.g1HEsdGo009677@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEENDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <200202171454.g1HEsdGo009677@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020218055748.L8743@carolo.net>

Le Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 03:54:39PM +0100, Laura Creighton pianota:
> StarOffice works.  We use it here.  But it is also _enormous_

I do think too it's not worth installing such a monster.

> Anybody have anything smaller?

Plain text and some python scripts ?

Denis

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P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Mon Feb 18 07:20:18 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 08:20:18 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] FSF award
In-Reply-To: <20020218055041.K8743@carolo.net>
References: <20020217113133.A76337@math.jussieu.fr> <20020218055041.K8743@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <1014016818.3c70ab3285e43@webmail.in-berlin.de>

> Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> >
> > I just learnt that GvR won the FSF award this year
> > (http://www.fsf.org/press/2002-02-16-FSF-Award.html). [...]
> > Should we add something abour it in the press release ?

Sure, why not? Something like moving from:

"""The EuroPython Conference Team is proud to announce that 
one of the keynote speakers will be Guido van Rossum, the 
creator of Python"""

to :

"""The EuroPython Conference Team is proud to announce that 
one of the keynote speakers will be Guido van Rossum, the 
creator of Python and winner of the <link>FSF Award for the Ad-
vancement of Free Software 2001</link>!"""

perhaps?

Dinu


From marc@msys.ch  Mon Feb 18 09:07:00 2002
From: marc@msys.ch (Marc Balmer)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 10:07:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Introduction / Paper proposal
Message-ID: <DE2BFDD6-244E-11D6-96CA-003065F9345A@msys.ch>

Hello!

I am new to this list, and I am a bit lost in then EuroPython
"Information Jungle".. ;-)

I read through some mailings in the archive, but I seem not
the find the proper place to propose a paper.

My proposal is for the "Python in the Real World"-Track and is
entitled "Building an IT-Architecture for Distributet, cross-platform,
enterprise applications using Python, CORBA and wxWindows".

It is primariliy the result of a research we have done for a customer,
so it has a focus on practiability.

If such a speech is of interest, please let me know how I could
submit details (Abstract, Bio etc.) and where I can find more
Information about EuroPython.

Regards,
Marc

--
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Tel +41 61 383 05 10, Fax +41 61 383 05 12, http://www.msys.ch/



From hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr  Mon Feb 18 10:20:11 2002
From: hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr (Konrad Hinsen)
Date: 18 Feb 2002 11:20:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Introduction / Paper proposal
In-Reply-To: <DE2BFDD6-244E-11D6-96CA-003065F9345A@msys.ch>
References: <DE2BFDD6-244E-11D6-96CA-003065F9345A@msys.ch>
Message-ID: <m3k7tbdrc4.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>

Marc Balmer <marc@msys.ch> writes:

> My proposal is for the "Python in the Real World"-Track and is

What is the "real world"? And what are the other worlds?

Konrad.
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From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 18 10:44:29 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:44:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Introduction / Paper proposal
References: <DE2BFDD6-244E-11D6-96CA-003065F9345A@msys.ch>
Message-ID: <3C70DB0D.543F2590@lemburg.com>

Marc Balmer wrote:
> 
> Hello!
> 
> I am new to this list, and I am a bit lost in then EuroPython
> "Information Jungle".. ;-)
> 
> I read through some mailings in the archive, but I seem not
> the find the proper place to propose a paper.

You already made the correct first move ... post the proposal
to this list. In general, I think it's ok to either post to this
list or contact the track champions directly.
 
> My proposal is for the "Python in the Real World"-Track and is
> entitled "Building an IT-Architecture for Distributet, cross-platform,
> enterprise applications using Python, CORBA and wxWindows".
> 
> It is primariliy the result of a research we have done for a customer,
> so it has a focus on practiability.
> 
> If such a speech is of interest, please let me know how I could
> submit details (Abstract, Bio etc.) and where I can find more
> Information about EuroPython.

Please edit a short description of the talk under "Ideas"
into the track wiki at:

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PythonInBusinessTrack

You should include a short description and your contact details,
so that we can follow up.

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 18 10:49:10 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:49:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Introduction / Paper proposal
References: <DE2BFDD6-244E-11D6-96CA-003065F9345A@msys.ch> <m3k7tbdrc4.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
Message-ID: <3C70DC26.BBF8BC2F@lemburg.com>

Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> 
> Marc Balmer <marc@msys.ch> writes:
> 
> > My proposal is for the "Python in the Real World"-Track and is
> 
> What is the "real world"? And what are the other worlds?

The track is called "Python in Business" now. There are
also other tracks which cover other aspects of the Real
World :-)
 
Perhaps you can volunteer as track champion for the
"Python in Science" track ?!

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTracks

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From burt@dfki.de  Mon Feb 18 11:27:22 2002
From: burt@dfki.de (Alastair Burt)
Date: 18 Feb 2002 12:27:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference Title
In-Reply-To: <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
 <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de>
 <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl>
 <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <vgk7tbf2sl.fsf_-_@mastiff.dfki.uni-sb.de>

Dinu Gherman <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de> writes:

> Good, but then I see an inconsistency between "EuroPython"
> and "European Python and Zope Conference". Ideally, I feel
> like it should be "European Python Conference 2002" and=20
> "EPC 2002" (like IPC10), with some subtitle emphasizing=20
> Zope like "The first Major European Python and Zope Mee-
> ting".

What happened to the good old tradition of naming conferences after tins of
meat? I think the conference should obviously be called "EUROSPAM 1", which
does not have Zope or Python in the title.

Just-trying-to-be-constructive-ly yours,

   Alastair

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Email: burt@dfki.de
Tel: +49 681 302 2565
Fax: +49 681 302 2235



From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Mon Feb 18 12:09:15 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:09:15 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: Conference Title
In-Reply-To: <vgk7tbf2sl.fsf_-_@mastiff.dfki.uni-sb.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <vgk7tbf2sl.fsf_-_@mastiff.dfki.uni-sb.de>
Message-ID: <1014034155.3c70eeeb77de2@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Alastair Burt <burt@dfki.de>:

> Dinu Gherman <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de> writes:
> 
> > Good, but then I see an inconsistency between "EuroPython"
> > and "European Python and Zope Conference". Ideally, I feel
> > like it should be "European Python Conference 2002" and 
> > "EPC 2002" (like IPC10), with some subtitle emphasizing 
> > Zope like "The first Major European Python and Zope Mee-
> > ting".
>
> What happened to the good old tradition of naming conferences after 
> tins of meat? I think the conference should obviously be called 
> "EUROSPAM 1", which does not have Zope or Python in the title.

The tradition does likely still exist, but I guess the general 
movement is toward getting more "market share" and, hence,
appearing to be less of a cult movement to the "other folks"
is more of an advantage.

Apart from that, I'd prefer FOIE-GRAS I... ;-)

Dinu


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 18 16:31:01 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:31:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.1.20020217020757.00a06830@pop.puretec.de>
References: <5.1.0.14.1.20020217020757.00a06830@pop.puretec.de>
Message-ID: <20020218163101.GA27059@vet.uu.nl>

Thomas Reulbach wrote:
> It think keeping Python and Zope in the title is a good decision. 
> Especially business and government people will be much more attracted if 
> Zope is in the main title, too. I guess we should also avoid putting Zope 
> in brackets which is just ugly. Python is already emphasized correctly by 
> the sequence of terms.
> just my 2c

That was my original intent too. What do others think? Get rid of Zope
in the title or keep it there? Those who have spoken up already 
I'll count already, so no need to reply to this again. I'd just like to test
the waters on this.

Regards,

Martijn



From lac@strakt.com  Mon Feb 18 16:33:42 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:33:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title
In-Reply-To: Message from Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>
 of "Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:31:01 +0100." <20020218163101.GA27059@vet.uu.nl>
References: <5.1.0.14.1.20020217020757.00a06830@pop.puretec.de>  <20020218163101.GA27059@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <200202181633.g1IGXhGo012970@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

I think the time to fuss about the title was before you made your press
release.  Now there are more important fish to fry.  I cannot raise money
that is supposed to be sent to somebody's private bank account.  People
around here will simply giggle.

Laura Creighton


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 18 16:38:12 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:38:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] FSF award
In-Reply-To: <1014016818.3c70ab3285e43@webmail.in-berlin.de>
References: <20020217113133.A76337@math.jussieu.fr> <20020218055041.K8743@carolo.net> <1014016818.3c70ab3285e43@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020218163812.GB27059@vet.uu.nl>

Dinu Gherman wrote:
> """The EuroPython Conference Team is proud to announce that 
> one of the keynote speakers will be Guido van Rossum, the 
> creator of Python and winner of the <link>FSF Award for the Ad-
> vancement of Free Software 2001</link>!"""

As long as Laura doesn't think it will scare away business people
afraid of the word 'Free'.

I think 'the creator of Python' is more than enough praise already,
though, for a Python conference. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From lac@strakt.com  Mon Feb 18 16:42:36 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:42:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] FSF award
In-Reply-To: Message from Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>
 of "Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:38:12 +0100." <20020218163812.GB27059@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020217113133.A76337@math.jussieu.fr> <20020218055041.K8743@carolo.net> <1014016818.3c70ab3285e43@webmail.in-berlin.de>  <20020218163812.GB27059@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <200202181642.g1IGgaGo013012@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > """The EuroPython Conference Team is proud to announce that 
> > one of the keynote speakers will be Guido van Rossum, the 
> > creator of Python and winner of the <link>FSF Award for the Ad-
> > vancement of Free Software 2001</link>!"""
> 
> As long as Laura doesn't think it will scare away business people
> afraid of the word 'Free'.
> 
> I think 'the creator of Python' is more than enough praise already,
> though, for a Python conference. :)

It will play better if you say the Free Software Foundation's Award for
the Advancement of Free Software.  The people who have never heard
of the Free Software Foundation will know that 'it is an official 
thing made by an official body (or at least an official sounding body)'
before their brain makes the connection to 'hobby', and they decide to
stay home.

Laura


From marc@msys.ch  Mon Feb 18 16:58:44 2002
From: marc@msys.ch (Marc Balmer)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 17:58:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title
In-Reply-To: <20020218163101.GA27059@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <C454B2F8-2490-11D6-9B18-003065F9345A@msys.ch>

Am Montag den, 18. Februar 2002, um 17:31, schrieb Martijn Faassen:


> That was my original intent too. What do others think? Get rid of Zope
> in the title or keep it there? Those who have spoken up already
> I'll count already, so no need to reply to this again. I'd just like to 
> test
> the waters on this.

I vote vor "EuroPython", sans Zope in the title.

- mb

--
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Tel +41 61 383 05 10, Fax +41 61 383 05 12, http://www.msys.ch/



From hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr  Mon Feb 18 17:02:46 2002
From: hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr (Konrad Hinsen)
Date: 18 Feb 2002 18:02:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title
In-Reply-To: <20020218163101.GA27059@vet.uu.nl>
References: <5.1.0.14.1.20020217020757.00a06830@pop.puretec.de>
 <20020218163101.GA27059@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <m3wuxad8p5.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>

Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl> writes:

> That was my original intent too. What do others think? Get rid of Zope

I have strictly no opinion on this. I don't think we'll have more or
less participants either way, so just throw a coin and let's find an
end to this discussion.

Konrad.
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From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 18 17:32:48 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 18:32:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Getting incorporated...
References: <5.1.0.14.1.20020217020757.00a06830@pop.puretec.de>  <20020218163101.GA27059@vet.uu.nl> <200202181633.g1IGXhGo012970@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <3C713AC0.841DF65@lemburg.com>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> 
> I cannot raise money
> that is supposed to be sent to somebody's private bank account.  People
> around here will simply giggle.

That's right; the budget team should get this done ASAP. 

Don't know what you have to do in Belgium or The Netherlands to
setup a foundation, but it shouldn't be all that hard.

Just one thing: please don't call it "European Python Software
Foundation", because the PSF might want to use this name for
its own purposes.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mvm@brutele.be  Mon Feb 18 22:24:13 2002
From: mvm@brutele.be (vincent)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:24:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Maybe, The Euro Python Layout...
Message-ID: <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx>

Hi everybody,

My name is vincent and I'm a Web Designer.

SO, Denis ask me to prepare a simple layout for the internet Euro Python web
site,
Ok I did it and this the model, see it @ :

http://212.68.204.88:9673/europython

What do you think about ???

Hope to enjoy yourself ...

Vincent.



From srichter@cbu.edu  Mon Feb 18 22:38:43 2002
From: srichter@cbu.edu (Stephan Richter)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 16:38:43 -0600
Subject: [EuroPython] Maybe, The Euro Python Layout...
In-Reply-To: <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020218163739.01a93918@mercury-1.cbu.edu>

At 11:24 PM 2/18/2002 +0100, vincent wrote:
>Hi everybody,
>
>My name is vincent and I'm a Web Designer.
>
>SO, Denis ask me to prepare a simple layout for the internet Euro Python web
>site,
>Ok I did it and this the model, see it @ :
>
>http://212.68.204.88:9673/europython
>
>What do you think about ???
>
>Hope to enjoy yourself ...

So, it is decided that Zope will not appear in the conference name? I 
though the conference was named "EuroPython and EuroZope Conference"?

Regards,
Stephan

--
Stephan Richter
CBU - Physics and Chemistry Student
Web2k - Web Design/Development & Technical Project Management



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 18 22:45:27 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:45:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release German finished
In-Reply-To: <20020217090145.A75149@math.jussieu.fr>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEDJDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <1013787643.3c6d2bfb3e056@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020215223939.GE17939@vet.uu.nl> <1013815748.3c6d99c45f86d@webmail.in-berlin.de> <3C6E38E2.6454D1FC@lemburg.com> <20020216120200.A71674@math.jussieu.fr> <20020216132516.C71674@math.jussieu.fr> <3C6E5207.BFEF03F5@lemburg.com> <20020216225803.GA20840@vet.uu.nl> <20020217090145.A75149@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <20020218224527.GA28444@vet.uu.nl>

Stefane Fermigier wrote:
> > That has the disadvantage of not being true. :)
> 
> But it *is* the first First Major Python *and* Zope Event.
> 
> There has been major Python Events (in 1999) and Zope events (many)
> already, but no one with the double focus.

I realize that, but no everybody is going to read that 'and' as a 
boolean one -- natural language leaves open various other competing
interpretation, and we're not going to risk that. We'll stay away
from the word 'first' where it can possibly be misinterpreted.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 18 22:47:43 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:47:43 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Public Relations, Registration of the people willing to come
In-Reply-To: <20020218054303.J8743@carolo.net>
References: <20020215225114.GI17939@vet.uu.nl> <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEEEDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <20020216233055.GE20840@vet.uu.nl> <20020218054303.J8743@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <20020218224743.GB28444@vet.uu.nl>

Denis wrote:
> You're always welcome, of course.

Great! :)

> We could settle a date. Not too soon so that we have more data to
> discuss. Not too late so that we have time to correct wrong things.

I'll open a wiki page so we don't lose track of this too quickly.
I won't put any dates on it yet, just that we want to plan a kind of
meeting.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 18 22:51:23 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:51:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget, Sponsoring and
In-Reply-To: <20020218052148.I8743@carolo.net>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEEFDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <20020218052148.I8743@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <20020218225123.GC28444@vet.uu.nl>

Denis wrote:
> Le Sat, Feb 16, 2002 at 08:41:20AM +0100, Andrew Smart pianota:
> > I can offer sponsoring support for germany: my assistant can call companies,
> > which officially use python and/or zope, and ask them very politly (we shut
> > down your zope server remotly if not ;-) for a contribution.
> 
> That shouldn't hurt. :-)
> 
> > We have to find out this companies before, of course. And we have to make
> > clear that the python conference is a nonprofit organisation,
> 
> Of course, it's a non-profit organization.
> 
> > and the money is for the costs and for the students.
> 
> Should there be money left ?
> If so, it could be funds for the next conference, too.

This again indicates the need we need some EuroPython organization, (or
a EuroPython conference organization in particular doing only the
conference(s)), to manage this money and to bear the risk.

We don't intend to make money with the conference, but we don't have
to go spend all the money either in case it should make a profit. I think
having an organization for this would be the best thing, but I don't know
enough about the legal matters to accurately comment. We do seem to have
others who can, though, so I'll leave that up to them.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 18 22:52:57 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:52:57 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
In-Reply-To: <20020218055748.L8743@carolo.net>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEENDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <200202171454.g1HEsdGo009677@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020218055748.L8743@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <20020218225257.GD28444@vet.uu.nl>

Denis wrote:
> Le Sun, Feb 17, 2002 at 03:54:39PM +0100, Laura Creighton pianota:
> > StarOffice works.  We use it here.  But it is also _enormous_
> 
> I do think too it's not worth installing such a monster.
> 
> > Anybody have anything smaller?
> 
> Plain text and some python scripts ?

There's gnumeric, though that may be difficult to download and install
too. I use Debian and it's part of debian unstable, so for me it's
easy.

Star Office we can deal with here at Infrae too, so not a big problem.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 18 22:56:59 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:56:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference title
In-Reply-To: <m3wuxad8p5.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
References: <5.1.0.14.1.20020217020757.00a06830@pop.puretec.de> <20020218163101.GA27059@vet.uu.nl> <m3wuxad8p5.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
Message-ID: <20020218225659.GE28444@vet.uu.nl>

Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl> writes:
> 
> > That was my original intent too. What do others think? Get rid of Zope
> 
> I have strictly no opinion on this. I don't think we'll have more or
> less participants either way, so just throw a coin and let's find an
> end to this discussion.

I've considered matters and threw a coin in my head and we'll keep
the title as it is, with Zope in there. The short title remains
EuroPython, and the general policy remains the same; we'll focus on
Python but won't neglect the Zope side. If we are to organize another
conference next year we can reevaluate the issue with more data.

I hope that this closes the discussion. Now on to the money matters.
If we're to start a EuroPython Foundation, what do we do and who
does it? What are the options? What's easiest?

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 18 22:57:51 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:57:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] FSF award
In-Reply-To: <200202181642.g1IGgaGo013012@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <20020217113133.A76337@math.jussieu.fr> <20020218055041.K8743@carolo.net> <1014016818.3c70ab3285e43@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020218163812.GB27059@vet.uu.nl> <200202181642.g1IGgaGo013012@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020218225751.GF28444@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> > Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > > """The EuroPython Conference Team is proud to announce that 
> > > one of the keynote speakers will be Guido van Rossum, the 
> > > creator of Python and winner of the <link>FSF Award for the Ad-
> > > vancement of Free Software 2001</link>!"""
> > 
> > As long as Laura doesn't think it will scare away business people
> > afraid of the word 'Free'.
> > 
> > I think 'the creator of Python' is more than enough praise already,
> > though, for a Python conference. :)
> 
> It will play better if you say the Free Software Foundation's Award for
> the Advancement of Free Software.  The people who have never heard
> of the Free Software Foundation will know that 'it is an official 
> thing made by an official body (or at least an official sounding body)'
> before their brain makes the connection to 'hobby', and they decide to
> stay home.

Perhaps we should put it in the 'Python' description then. Though the press
release is closed for editing of that scale now, so we'll just put something
on our website and put it in the next press release. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 18 23:02:42 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:02:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Bank account [Was: government money, socialism et al.]
In-Reply-To: <20020218033220.E8743@carolo.net>
References: <20020212104359.C63572@math.jussieu.fr> <200202141918.g1EJIXGo003887@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215015517.GD13798@vet.uu.nl> <E16bbEt-0000FD-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <3C6CEECB.36024E24@lemburg.com> <200202151425.g1FEPSGo005252@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020215222731.GB17939@vet.uu.nl> <25820000.1013969533@js> <20020218033220.E8743@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <20020218230241.GH28444@vet.uu.nl>

Denis wrote:
[using various bank accounts]
> Now, if many of you think it would be better to create a europython
> organization before the event, and a own EuroPython bank account, it's
> possible too. Though, I think it would take more time than we can spend.

I get the impression that this may indeed be best, though it will take
time. We do seem to have the expertise for this in our group, however
(not me, but I'll do whatever people tell me to do :). What does the
BudgetTeam think? :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 18 23:11:51 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:11:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Maybe, The Euro Python Layout...
In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020218163739.01a93918@mercury-1.cbu.edu>
References: <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx> <5.1.0.14.2.20020218163739.01a93918@mercury-1.cbu.edu>
Message-ID: <20020218231151.GA28799@vet.uu.nl>

Stephan Richter wrote:
> So, it is decided that Zope will not appear in the conference name? I 
> though the conference was named "EuroPython and EuroZope Conference"?

It's just been decided (I hope :) that the name will remain the same:

European Python and Zope Conference (2002).

The short name remains 'EuroPython'. Python remains the main thing
everything resolves around.

Any further debate we'll have next year if we're to organize another
conference. I think attendance figures (or possibly registration figures
already, if we ask for some extra data) will already give us quite a bit
of input on whether the decision to keep 'Zope' in there was the right one.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 18 23:17:10 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:17:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
Message-ID: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

I am afraid I've seen a number of mockups for the EuroPython website
already, along with a logo and I know about another one still
incoming. We are apparently seeing a bit of overkill there and we don't
want to get into somekind of endless discussion about whose design is
best, etc.

So could the people interested in web design and the design of other
matters like conference materials please get together and coordinate matters?
Once things are coordinated, we can then proceed to give some feedback
on the design and then quickly move on to implementing it.

I think so far there was some consensus about aiming for a simple 
low-frills design, so that's all the design input so far. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 18 23:22:58 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:22:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Any pressing press release issues left?
Message-ID: <20020218232258.GB28827@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

Are there any pressing (sorry, can't help myself :) press release issues left?

I can't think of any (except that there's not a Dutch translation yet :),
so if not, we should move to get the release out there.

http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/PressReleasePress

contains a large amount of press entities we should be contacting. Please
follow the instructions on the page if you want to 'claim' one.

I just claimed a whole lot I'll be sending, and if no issues come up
I'll start sending them out tomorrow.

Regards,

Martijn



From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb 18 23:32:17 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:32:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
In-Reply-To: <20020218225257.GD28444@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020219003217.S8743@carolo.net>

Le Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:52:57PM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> 
> There's gnumeric, though that may be difficult to download and install
> too. I use Debian and it's part of debian unstable, so for me it's
> easy.
>

Debian is clearly the right choice. ;-)

Why not gnumeric ? 
Is everyone concerned running GNU/Linux ?
(Yes, RMS was at FOSDEM too).

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Mon Feb 18 23:56:37 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:56:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Maybe, The Euro Python Layout...
References: <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <022a01c1b8d7$e898ec20$368c84d5@skullsplitter>

Euhm, great,

But I would have liked you told that you were working on this before.... Now
I've waisted some valuable time of mine :-((((

Tom.

----- Original Message -----
From: "vincent" <mvm@brutele.be>
To: "Euro Python" <europython@python.org>
Cc: "vincent" <mvm@brutele.be>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 11:24 PM
Subject: [EuroPython] Maybe, The Euro Python Layout...


> Hi everybody,
>
> My name is vincent and I'm a Web Designer.
>
> SO, Denis ask me to prepare a simple layout for the internet Euro Python
web
> site,
> Ok I did it and this the model, see it @ :
>
> http://212.68.204.88:9673/europython
>
> What do you think about ???
>
> Hope to enjoy yourself ...
>
> Vincent.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From jacek@artymiak.com  Tue Feb 19 02:16:28 2002
From: jacek@artymiak.com (Jacek Artymiak)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 01:16:28 -0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial: Using FreeMovie
In-Reply-To: <E16crAP-0000pm-00@mail.python.org>; from europython-request@python.org on Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 12:01:29PM -0500
References: <E16crAP-0000pm-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20020219011628.Q26210@skuba.h--y.com>

Hi, 

I'd like to propose a tutorial for the EuroPython conference.

I'm working on a Python port of my FreeMovie library, which creates and parses Macromedia Flash(tm) SWF files.  It is, in effect, an SWF SDK written entirely in Python.  FM comes with a high-level toolkit that simplifies the process of creating and parsing SWF files.  I use it to visualize business and scientific data.  I wonder if there would be anyone interested in attending a tutorial session on this subject?  The FM library is licenced under the terms of the GPL.

-- 
Jacek Artymiak
writer, author, developer, consultant --------------------------- 
e-mail: jacek@artymiak.com            ---------------------------
   www: http://www.artymiak.com       ---------------------------


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Mon Feb 18 23:51:31 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 00:51:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
References: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <021e01c1b8d7$50fd46e0$368c84d5@skullsplitter>

I back you up on this Martijn.

I already tried to start some discussion about the webdesign on this list,
but  almost nobody responded (I think only you did).
At the moment I was thinking on something and now I see somebody did a
wonderfull job, but damn, no I waisted my time!
I don't like this to happen, since I already don't have much free time.

Regards, Tom.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Martijn Faassen" <faassen@vet.uu.nl>
To: <europython@python.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:17 AM
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams


> Hi there,
>
> I am afraid I've seen a number of mockups for the EuroPython website
> already, along with a logo and I know about another one still
> incoming. We are apparently seeing a bit of overkill there and we don't
> want to get into somekind of endless discussion about whose design is
> best, etc.
>
> So could the people interested in web design and the design of other
> matters like conference materials please get together and coordinate
matters?
> Once things are coordinated, we can then proceed to give some feedback
> on the design and then quickly move on to implementing it.
>
> I think so far there was some consensus about aiming for a simple
> low-frills design, so that's all the design input so far. :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Tue Feb 19 01:28:17 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 02:28:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Maybe, The Euro Python Layout...
In-Reply-To: <022a01c1b8d7$e898ec20$368c84d5@skullsplitter>
References: <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx> <022a01c1b8d7$e898ec20$368c84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <20020219022817.V8743@carolo.net>

Le Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:56:37AM +0100, Tom Deprez pianota:
> Euhm, great,
> 
> But I would have liked you told that you were working on this before...
> Now I've waisted some valuable time of mine :-((((

It's has been said on the list. Philippe Jadin did something too, and
Andrew asked another designer for a logo.

--- quoting Martijn Faassen Thu, 14 Feb 2002 19:55:29 +0100 -----
> We've now got a DesignTeam responsible for these issues. Anyone
> interested should add their name to this page:
>
> http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/DesignTeam
>
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Please, follow Martijn's advice : add your names in the wiki and try
to coordinate so that such displeasure doesn't happen too often.

Notice that there is a DesignTeam and a WebTeam.

As I already told you (outside this list), Tom, I really thought you
were working on a more technical way on the Website. 

Now, checking those pages, I must admit it's not so clear : designers
are listed on both. Shouldn't we keep only one of them ?
If not, choose the prefered one : WebTeam should focus on architecture,
forms, etc. DesignTeam should focus on logos, buttons, and so on.

(Vincent, add yourself too).

A+
-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Tue Feb 19 01:52:07 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 02:52:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Maybe, The Euro Python Layout...
In-Reply-To: <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx>
References: <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <20020219025207.W8743@carolo.net>

Le Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:24:13PM +0100, vincent pianota:
> Ok I did it and this the model, see it @ :
> 
> http://212.68.204.88:9673/europython
> 
> What do you think about ???

Quick advice : 
+ impressive, doesn't look cheap anymore
+ lots of work on it, I guess, thank you
- not as light as we're used to
- I personnally don't like the euro sign in the logo (though it's 
  pronounced "euro" as in EuroPython, it makes me think to a
  financial thing when I see it like this)
- keep the title as discussed for the press release

See you soon.

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Tue Feb 19 07:07:11 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:07:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC Logo, first try (pdf file)
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEHGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

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Hi folks,

after some discussions Dagmar made the first EPC logo (sometime last
night...). It's colorful and inspired by the name "python" as well as that
it is a european conference (stars).

Don't shoot it of instantly if it isn't your individual taste, it's the
first try... Dagmar needs some feedback based on the first visualisation...

I think Dagmar will join the list herself sooner or later.

I hope the list supports filing attachments... else I'll need a place to
upload the pdf-file.

Andrew

Logo from:

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Grafik · Photographie · PR · Webdesign
Dipl.-Designerin Dagmar Kolb · mobil 0170.86 57 346
mailto dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de · http://www.just-ad.de

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From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Tue Feb 19 07:08:52 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:08:52 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial: Using FreeMovie
In-Reply-To: <20020219011628.Q26210@skuba.h--y.com>
References: <E16crAP-0000pm-00@mail.python.org> <20020219011628.Q26210@skuba.h--y.com>
Message-ID: <1014102532.3c71fa041fca8@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Jacek Artymiak <jacek@artymiak.com>:

> I'd like to propose a tutorial for the EuroPython conference.

Great!

> I'm working on a Python port of my FreeMovie library, which creates 
> and parses Macromedia Flash(tm) SWF files.  It is, in effect, an SWF 
> SDK written entirely in Python.  FM comes with a high-level toolkit 
> that simplifies the process of creating and parsing SWF files.  I 
> use it to visualize business and scientific data.  I wonder if there 
> would be anyone interested in attending a tutorial session on this 
> subject?  The FM library is licenced under the terms of the GPL.

Absolutely! Do you have more info on it somewhere?

Regards,

Dinu


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Tue Feb 19 07:26:06 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:26:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] aargh ! 3 days out and I must read 200 mails for Europython alone
Message-ID: <E16d4f9-0000bi-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

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Dear really active member of the Eurpoython team,

3 days out (to get a rest) and I must read 200 mails for Europython alone=
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Could anyone summarize what I need to read, do and provide as most import=
ant=20
info, as I'll be away fro mthe list for another 2 or 3 days because of 3=20
conferences about libre software I organize (see the joint info for more =
)

Thank you,

Nicolas

Please call me on my portable +32.24.55.01 for really urgent matters.

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Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
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From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Tue Feb 19 07:47:24 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:47:24 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
In-Reply-To: <20020219003217.S8743@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEHHDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi Denis,

> Why not gnumeric ?

Hups... have SuSE7.3 but don't know if I have THIS one... and I use often my
W*-based Laptop, so I would prefer some portable format.

> (Yes, RMS was at FOSDEM too).

Hmm... whatever you mean, it sounds good... what is RMS, and FOSDEM?

Andrew




From tim@2wave.net  Tue Feb 19 08:15:44 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:15:44 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython] Conference Title
In-Reply-To: <E16crAP-0000pj-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20020219081544.85345.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>

> Alastair Burt <burt@dfki.de>:
> 
> > Dinu Gherman <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de> writes:
> > 
>  .... What happened to the good old tradition of
naming
> conferences after 
> > tins of meat? I think the conference should
> obviously be called 
> > "EUROSPAM 1", which does not have Zope or Python
> in the title.
> 
> The tradition does likely still exist, but I guess
> the general 
> movement is toward getting more "market share" and,
> hence,
> appearing to be less of a cult movement to the
> "other folks"
> is more of an advantage.
> 
> Apart from that, I'd prefer FOIE-GRAS I... ;-)
> 
> Dinu

Rather than Spam we could use the sausage, under the
title: "The Wurst is yet to come" 

er... I'll go back to work now .....

Tim


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From xavier@defrang.com  Tue Feb 19 09:02:36 2002
From: xavier@defrang.com (Xavier Defrang)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:02:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Maybe, The Euro Python Layout...
References: <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <3C7214AC.630273F1@defrang.com>

vincent wrote:

> What do you think about ???

I'm not "officialy" a web designer but I'm really concerned with design
and usability issues so here are my remarks, don't get offended...
design is often a matter of taste... I hope you'll take this as
constructive remarks.

First of all, i'd remove that splashscreen : it's completely useless and
definetly look unprofessional (such a design would suit more a
hacking/cracking conference! ;))

The logo is way too complex.  How do you think it will look if you print
it out on badges, t-shirts or whatever?  What about reusing that cute
little Python icon bundled with the Python distribution
and just add a european symbol (flag?) on it?

IMHO the design is also bloated with images, there are too many of
them... A nearly pure text site would be better for a tech audience. 
Have a look at Python10.org, I won't say it's got a perfect design but
it's light and you've got all the information one click away.  I'm
afraid you designed the layout of the site before having the structure
of the site clearly defined...

Btw, what happened to the lovely lightweight layout i saw on, the list a
few days ago?
This layout was more likely to bring in more suits with pockets full of
shiny bucks to be spent in Python/Zope consulting. ;)

no-i-am-not-jakob-nielsen'ly yours,

X.
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From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 19 09:07:55 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:07:55 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Maybe, The Euro Python Layout...
References: <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <3C7215EB.256EAB8F@lemburg.com>

vincent wrote:
> 
> Hi everybody,
> 
> My name is vincent and I'm a Web Designer.
> 
> SO, Denis ask me to prepare a simple layout for the internet Euro Python web
> site,
> Ok I did it and this the model, see it @ :
> 
> http://212.68.204.88:9673/europython
> 
> What do you think about ???

Some observations:

* Python is a programming language, so this is really more about
  bits and bytes than reptiles (note that Python originated
  from the TV series Monty Python, not the snake's name).

* The web-site will have to give a professional look and
  feel. It's intention is to attract, among others, 
  managers and business people. I'm afraid that the snake
  may scare these groups away rather than attract them.

* The site will be put more emphasis on content then
  looks. It should provide a basic layout which looks
  reasonable and then allow for more or less arbitrary
  content to be displayed in the content area.

* The Euro logo in the conference logo is a bit misleading
  I think: the ring of starts would better fit here
  (putting emphasis on community rather than monetary
  values).

Perhaps you could get in touch with Just van Rossum,
the brother of Guido van Rossum, and set up a
WebsiteDesignTeam ?!

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Tue Feb 19 09:26:41 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:26:41 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Maybe, The Euro Python Layout...
In-Reply-To: <3C7215EB.256EAB8F@lemburg.com>
References: <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx> <3C7215EB.256EAB8F@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <1014110801.3c721a51c0614@webmail.in-berlin.de>

 "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com>:

> * Python is a programming language, so this is really more about
>   bits and bytes than reptiles (note that Python originated
>   from the TV series Monty Python, not the snake's name).

There are other references to reptiles, but anyway. That makes
me wonder if there could be an EPC2002 logo that mimicks the
graphics style used in the Monty Python series? In fact that 
does reappear to some degree in the student video shown at 
IPC10: http://www.ibiblio.org/obp/pyBiblio/pythonvideo.php
(ca. 250 MB...).

Regards,

Dinu



From mwh@python.net  Tue Feb 19 10:01:36 2002
From: mwh@python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: 19 Feb 2002 10:01:36 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC Logo, first try (pdf file)
In-Reply-To: "Andrew Smart"'s message of "Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:07:11 +0100"
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEHGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <2mr8nhn62n.fsf@starship.python.net>

"Andrew Smart" <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> writes:

> after some discussions Dagmar made the first EPC logo (sometime last
> night...). It's colorful and inspired by the name "python" as well as that
> it is a european conference (stars).
> 
> Don't shoot it of instantly if it isn't your individual taste, it's the
> first try... Dagmar needs some feedback based on the first visualisation...

Random comments: 

1) Basically I like it.  Nice and simple.  Should look good on a 
   T-shirt.
2) Perhaps the colours are a bit too garish?
3) The stars should certainly be in a circle to resemble the stars
   of the EU (i.e. like the first logo in the pdf)
4) I thought the short name of the conference was EuroPython (i.e.
   CamelCased), not Euro-python or similar.

Cheers,
M.

-- 
  There are two ways of constructing a software design: one way is to
  make it so simple that there  are obviously no deficiencies and the
  other way  is to make it so complicated  that there are  no obvious
  deficiencies.                                      -- C. A. R. Hoare


From mvm@brutele.be  Tue Feb 19 10:19:46 2002
From: mvm@brutele.be (vincent)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:19:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Maybe, The Euro Python Layout...
References: <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx> <3C7215EB.256EAB8F@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <005401c1b92e$f4a19970$3aff44d4@gfx>

Thank you @ all !!!

Vincent.



From lac@strakt.com  Tue Feb 19 10:30:44 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:30:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Maybe, The Euro Python Layout...
In-Reply-To: Message from "vincent" <mvm@brutele.be>
 of "Mon, 18 Feb 2002 23:24:13 +0100." <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx>
References: <000901c1b8cb$01539010$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <200202191030.g1JAUiGo014867@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

I am looking at http://212.68.204.88:9673/europython
The Snake is terrific.  I don't like the white at the bottom of the screen.
If we want to use this Snake as part of general marketting material, i.e.
make paper-tree version of this logo, it may be too dark.  There is
a harsh edge to the  left of the brown log or whatever the snake is
sitting on which I think is jarring.  I have mixed feelings about
turning the Y into the forked snake's tongue.   It's innovative, but
python tongues don't fork to quite that extent, and are black not red.
But then I win awards for being too much of a pedant all the time.
The Snake itself is terrific.  Good work.

Laura Creighton



From jacek@artymiak.com  Tue Feb 19 13:37:14 2002
From: jacek@artymiak.com (Jacek Artymiak)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:37:14 -0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial: Using FreeMovie
In-Reply-To: <1014102532.3c71fa041fca8@webmail.in-berlin.de>; from gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de on Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 08:08:52AM +0100
References: <E16crAP-0000pm-00@mail.python.org> <20020219011628.Q26210@skuba.h--y.com> <1014102532.3c71fa041fca8@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020219123714.S26210@skuba.h--y.com>

On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 08:08:52AM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > I'm working on a Python port of my FreeMovie library, which creates 
> > and parses Macromedia Flash(tm) SWF files.  It is, in effect, an SWF 
> > SDK written entirely in Python.  FM comes with a high-level toolkit 
> > that simplifies the process of creating and parsing SWF files.  I 
> > use it to visualize business and scientific data.  I wonder if there 
> > would be anyone interested in attending a tutorial session on this 
> > subject?  The FM library is licenced under the terms of the GPL.
> 
> Absolutely! Do you have more info on it somewhere?

Thank you. I'll be posting more information and the source code within the next two weeks on http://freemovie.sourceforge.net.  I'm also thinking of publishing a printed developer's guide for the Python port of FreeMovie. 

As for the tutorial, I'd like to propose the following schedule: 

1. The general structure of SWF files: a gentle introduction to the Flash SWF file format.
2. The general structure of the FreeMovie library: an explanation of the layered architecure of the FM library.
3. Working with vector graphics: creating simple and complex vector shapes, solid and gradient fills, layers.
4. Working with bitmap graphics: using bitmaps as standalone shapes and fills.
5. Animation: simple motion, morphing.
6. Slicing and splicing SWF files: extracting tags from one SWF file and adding them into another. 

That should be enough to fill 3 hours :-)

What do you think?

Best,

-- 
Jacek Artymiak
writer, author, developer, consultant --------------------------- 
e-mail: jacek@artymiak.com            ---------------------------
   www: http://www.artymiak.com       ---------------------------


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Tue Feb 19 11:36:08 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:36:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Questions / Europython Conf Organisation
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEHKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi folks,

hmm... I have no knowledge about Belgium business/organisational structures
and how to found them.

I searched a bit and found 2 "commercial" forms:

SPRL = Societe Privee a Responsabilite Limitee
BV = Besloten Venootschap met Beperkte Aansprakelijkheid

The first one sounds a bit like a "GmbH" (Ltd.) in Germany/London.
The second i can't translate, but I would guess it's the bigger one (like
"AG" in Germany).

You need at least one Person as Founder, can be forein, must have a
professional card.

Founding capital: at least 750.000 bfrs (around 18.000 Euro), costs: 30.000
bfrs (750 Euro)
One have to "pay" before founding at least 20% of the capital (3600 Euro).

Time to found: at least 8 weeks

I'm seeking further, but anyone from Belgium with know-how would be very
welcome!

I'm seeking organisational structures for non-profit organisations...

I've also found references for european-wide company structures (called EWIV
in German), but that's quite high-level stuff so I cannot say if it would
suit us...

Andrew



From p.vrijlandt@aig.azn.nl  Tue Feb 19 11:47:47 2002
From: p.vrijlandt@aig.azn.nl (p.vrijlandt@aig.azn.nl)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:47:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Questions / Europython Conf Organisation
Message-ID: <vines.BOZ7+XhXQwA@azninfo22.azn.nl>

Form: Reply
Text: (64 lines follow)
I'm Dutch, not Belgian, but

BV = Besloten Venootschap met Beperkte Aansprakelijkheid
translates as 
SPRL = Societe Privee a Responsabilite Limitee
in French.

I suppose this would be roughly equivalent to GmbH or Ltd

The Dutch 'other' possibilty would be 
NV = Naamloze Vennootschap equals
SA = Societe Anonyme
possibly 
AG = AktienGesellschaft

Don't know about Belgium though


--
Patrick Vrijlandt
---------- Tekst van het origineel ----------

Van: "Andrew Smart" <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>, op 19-02-2002 12:36:
To: ISMTP@azninfo22@Servers["Europython" <europython@python.org>]

Hi folks,

hmm... I have no knowledge about Belgium business/organisational structures
and how to found them.

I searched a bit and found 2 "commercial" forms:

SPRL = Societe Privee a Responsabilite Limitee
BV = Besloten Venootschap met Beperkte Aansprakelijkheid

The first one sounds a bit like a "GmbH" (Ltd.) in Germany/London.
The second i can't translate, but I would guess it's the bigger one (like
"AG" in Germany).

You need at least one Person as Founder, can be forein, must have a
professional card.

Founding capital: at least 750.000 bfrs (around 18.000 Euro), costs: 30.000
bfrs (750 Euro)
One have to "pay" before founding at least 20% of the capital (3600 Euro).

Time to found: at least 8 weeks

I'm seeking further, but anyone from Belgium with know-how would be very
welcome!

I'm seeking organisational structures for non-profit organisations...

I've also found references for european-wide company structures (called EWIV
in German), but that's quite high-level stuff so I cannot say if it would
suit us...

Andrew


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From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Tue Feb 19 11:50:31 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:50:31 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial: Using FreeMovie
In-Reply-To: <20020219123714.S26210@skuba.h--y.com>
References: <E16crAP-0000pm-00@mail.python.org> <20020219011628.Q26210@skuba.h--y.com> <1014102532.3c71fa041fca8@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020219123714.S26210@skuba.h--y.com>
Message-ID: <1014119431.3c723c075fc13@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Jacek Artymiak <jacek@artymiak.com>:

> As for the tutorial, I'd like to propose the following schedule: 
> 
> 1. The general structure of SWF files: a gentle introduction to the
> Flash SWF file format.
> 2. The general structure of the FreeMovie library: an explanation of
> the layered architecure of the FM library.
> 3. Working with vector graphics: creating simple and complex vector
> shapes, solid and gradient fills, layers.
> 4. Working with bitmap graphics: using bitmaps as standalone shapes
> and fills.
> 5. Animation: simple motion, morphing.
> 6. Slicing and splicing SWF files: extracting tags from one SWF file
> and adding them into another. 
> 
> That should be enough to fill 3 hours :-)
> 
> What do you think?

Have a look in the time schedule to check if there is space
for a dedicated conference track! ;-)

More seriously, you should check www.reportlab.com as they
have quite some of what you list above, including vector
graphics, to generate PDF, EPS and bitmap graphics formats
(using libart), but no SWF. It would be cool to find a way 
for cross-fertilization, if only as a seperate module (be-
cause of potential license issues... ReportLab is FreeBSD-
licensed).

ReportLab-biased'ly,

Dinu


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Tue Feb 19 12:14:31 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:14:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Questions / Europython Conf Organisation
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEHKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEHKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020219131431.B8743@carolo.net>

Le Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:36:08PM +0100, Andrew Smart pianota:
> Hi folks,
>=20
> hmm... I have no knowledge about Belgium business/organisational struct=
ures
> and how to found them.
> [Soci=E9t=E9 Anonyme (S.A.) and Soci=E9t=E9 de Personne =E0 Responsabil=
it=E9
> Limit=E9e (S.P.R.L.) summary]

These kind of organization is more suited for profit structures.
I really don't think we should go this way.

> I'm seeking further, but anyone from Belgium with know-how would be ver=
y
> welcome!
>=20
> I'm seeking organisational structures for non-profit organisations...

My first thought would go for a=20
Association Sans But Lucratif (A.S.B.L.)
that's a non-profit association.

What's needed :
* Statutes
  - writing statutes (how long ? from a few days to several months if we
    discuss every sentence as we discussed the conference title ;-)
  - around 300 to 400 euros for official publications (depends on the
    length of the statutes)
  - about 4 weeks for registration
  - eventually, statutes revision if there's a legal problem with the
    first draft (some weeks more)
  =20
* Bank Account
  - shouldn't be very long (but in fact, I've been experiencing it's not
    so easy sometimes : there's always a form that needs to be signed by
    all the founders, then another form the bank has forgotten on your
    first visit, then another form, because they have lost the first
    one, ...)

That means we could set up such an organization up before June, but we
could be short on time for first incoming funds, for example.
So, this could be a aim, but we could have to use other ways meanwhile.

EuroZope --> P3B --> EuroPython (when it's running) ?

Denis

--=20
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org=20
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From bh@intevation.de  Tue Feb 19 12:40:56 2002
From: bh@intevation.de (Bernhard Herzog)
Date: 19 Feb 2002 13:40:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial: Using FreeMovie
References: <E16crAP-0000pm-00@mail.python.org>
 <20020219011628.Q26210@skuba.h--y.com>
 <1014102532.3c71fa041fca8@webmail.in-berlin.de>
 <20020219123714.S26210@skuba.h--y.com>
 <1014119431.3c723c075fc13@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <6q8z9pd4pz.fsf@abnoba.intevation.de>

Dinu Gherman <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de> writes:

> Jacek Artymiak <jacek@artymiak.com>:
> 
> > As for the tutorial, I'd like to propose the following schedule: 
[freemovie Tutorial description snipped]
> > 
> > That should be enough to fill 3 hours :-)
> > 
> > What do you think?
> 
> Have a look in the time schedule to check if there is space
> for a dedicated conference track! ;-)
[...]
> It would be cool to find a way 
> for cross-fertilization, if only as a seperate module (be-
> cause of potential license issues... ReportLab is FreeBSD-
> licensed).

How much interest would there be in a graphics track? There are quite a
few graphics projects in Python. In addition to freemovie and reportlab,
there's piddle/sping, PIL, Justs's font-stuff and Sketch (and no doubt
I'm forgetting some).

  Bernhard

-- 
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MapIt!                                               http://mapit.de/


From lac@strakt.com  Tue Feb 19 13:08:18 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:08:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] I asked Jacob Hallén how long it would take to make a non profit society in Sweden.
Message-ID: <200202191308.g1JD8Ij5015969@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

He has done this many times.  He said:  1 day.  I asked him to write it up.
This is his response:  'collecting 5 people' need not be done in person.
An Irc channel would work, or a conference telephone call.  There are
roughly 10 Euros in a Swedish Krona.

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1. Collect 5 people.
2. Create some by-laws. They have to contain purpose, grounds for 
membership and administrative details, like how many members the board 
should have and how a general meeting is called.
3. Hold a meeting to officially form the society. In the meeting you 
select a board. You also set up rules for who gets to officially sign 
papers for the society (including how to access money in the bank). The 
last item may even be in the by-laws.
4. Go to the bank or the post office with your papers and ask to open an 
account. A bank account you can get for free. If you want to connect it 
to the bank giro or to use it over the Internet, there is a yearly 
charge of a couple of hundred kronor. A postal giro account costs 
something like 400 kronor per year.

If you want to set up organisations that have more lee-way in what they 
can do financially, it takes a bit more time and work. You can make 
for-profit societies (ekonomisk förening) and trusts (stiftelser). I 
have made a trust once, but not a for-profit society.

Jacob



From dario@ita.chalmers.se  Tue Feb 19 13:26:26 2002
From: dario@ita.chalmers.se (=?Windows-1252?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:26:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] =?Windows-1252?Q?Re:_=5BEuroPython=5D_I_asked_Jacob_Hall=E9n_how_long_it_?=
 =?Windows-1252?Q?would_take_to_make_a_non_profit_society_in_Sweden.?=
References: <200202191308.g1JD8Ij5015969@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <00e401c1b949$089f66e0$4bdf1081@ita.chalmers.se>

From: "Laura Creighton" <lac@strakt.com>
>
> He has done this many times.  He said:  1 day.  I asked him to write it
up.
> This is his response:  'collecting 5 people' need not be done in person.
> An Irc channel would work, or a conference telephone call.  There are
> roughly 10 Euros in a Swedish Krona.
>
> -------------

<snip>

> 1. Collect 5 people.
> 2. Create some by-laws. They have to contain purpose, grounds for
> membership and administrative details, like how many members the board
> should have and how a general meeting is called.

I have some experince in being on the board for a couple of non-profit or=
gs
in Sweden , and can provide good examples for bylaws (even a
fill-in-the-blanks-and-elaborate-a-bit bylaw-form) that are specifically =
for
non-profit organisations. They are in swedish, but it would be trivial to
translate them into english if there is interest.

/dario

- --------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K=E4sten     Systems Developer  Chalmers Univ. of Technology
dario@ita.chalmers.se  ICQ will yield no hits    IT Systems & Services




From mwh@python.net  Tue Feb 19 13:31:05 2002
From: mwh@python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: 19 Feb 2002 13:31:05 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] I asked Jacob Hallén how long it would take to make a non profit society in Sweden.
In-Reply-To: Laura Creighton's message of "Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:08:18 +0100"
References: <200202191308.g1JD8Ij5015969@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <2mwux97g4m.fsf@starship.python.net>

Laura Creighton <lac@strakt.com> writes:

> He has done this many times.  He said:  1 day.  I asked him to write it up.
> This is his response:  'collecting 5 people' need not be done in person.
> An Irc channel would work, or a conference telephone call.  There are
> roughly 10 Euros in a Swedish Krona.

I think you mean ~10 krona to a euro?  E4000 a year for a bank account
seems a bit steep...

Cheers,
M.

-- 
  [Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and Lisp: a billion
  different sublanguages in one monolithic executable.  It combines
  the power of C with the readability of PostScript. -- Jamie Zawinski


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Tue Feb 19 13:44:02 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:44:02 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Bank account [Was: government money, socialism et
 al.]
In-Reply-To: <20020218230241.GH28444@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191430550.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> I get the impression that this may indeed be best, though it will take
> time. We do seem to have the expertise for this in our group, however
> (not me, but I'll do whatever people tell me to do :). What does the
> BudgetTeam think? :)

I am not part of the BudgetTeam, but I know that in France it is rather
easy to create an "association loi 1901" (non-profit) or a "groupement
intérêt économique" (for-profit). Neither are companies.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Tue Feb 19 13:50:25 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:50:25 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC Logo, first try (pdf file)
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEHGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191449190.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> after some discussions Dagmar made the first EPC logo (sometime last
> night...). It's colorful and inspired by the name "python" as well as that
> it is a european conference (stars).
> 
> Don't shoot it of instantly if it isn't your individual taste, it's the
> first try... Dagmar needs some feedback based on the first visualisation...

IMHO: maybe a little *too* colorful, but I rather like it :-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr  Tue Feb 19 13:55:08 2002
From: hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr (Konrad Hinsen)
Date: 19 Feb 2002 14:55:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Questions / Europython Conf Organisation
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEHKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEHKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <m3k7t960g3.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>

"Andrew Smart" <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> writes:

> I searched a bit and found 2 "commercial" forms:
> 
> SPRL = Societe Privee a Responsabilite Limitee
> BV = Besloten Venootschap met Beperkte Aansprakelijkheid

These seem to be the same to me, once in French and once in Dutch.
But for our needs, I'd go for some form of association rather than
a commercial company.

Konrad.
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From hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr  Tue Feb 19 13:56:16 2002
From: hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr (Konrad Hinsen)
Date: 19 Feb 2002 14:56:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Introduction / Paper proposal
In-Reply-To: <3C70DC26.BBF8BC2F@lemburg.com>
References: <DE2BFDD6-244E-11D6-96CA-003065F9345A@msys.ch>
 <m3k7tbdrc4.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
 <3C70DC26.BBF8BC2F@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <m3g03x60e7.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>

"M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com> writes:

> Perhaps you can volunteer as track champion for the
> "Python in Science" track ?!

OK in principle, but before I accept responsibility for any kind of
program, I'd like to know the conditions: how much time is available
for the track, what are the conditions for inviting speakers, etc.

Konrad.
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45071 Orleans Cedex 2                    | Deutsch/Esperanto/English/
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From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Tue Feb 19 13:59:45 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:59:45 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Questions / Europython Conf Organisation
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEHKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191458260.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> I searched a bit and found 2 "commercial" forms:
> 
> SPRL = Societe Privee a Responsabilite Limitee
> BV = Besloten Venootschap met Beperkte Aansprakelijkheid
> 
> The first one sounds a bit like a "GmbH" (Ltd.) in Germany/London.
> The second i can't translate, but I would guess it's the bigger one (like
> "AG" in Germany).

That would be SARL and SA in France. That's for companies, with customers,
staff on the payroll, etc. I'm not sure that it is what we are looking
for. Or is it ?

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Tue Feb 19 14:02:50 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:02:50 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial: Using FreeMovie
In-Reply-To: <6q8z9pd4pz.fsf@abnoba.intevation.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191502060.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> How much interest would there be in a graphics track? There are quite a
> few graphics projects in Python. In addition to freemovie and reportlab,
> there's piddle/sping, PIL, Justs's font-stuff and Sketch (and no doubt
> I'm forgetting some).

Sounds like a good idea. To me at least. Unless someone objects, please
create the track in the wiki and add your name there.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 19 14:24:17 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:24:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Track organization
References: <DE2BFDD6-244E-11D6-96CA-003065F9345A@msys.ch>
 <m3k7tbdrc4.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
 <3C70DC26.BBF8BC2F@lemburg.com> <m3g03x60e7.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
Message-ID: <3C726011.F110BE02@lemburg.com>

Konrad Hinsen wrote:
> 
> "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com> writes:
> 
> > Perhaps you can volunteer as track champion for the
> > "Python in Science" track ?!
> 
> OK in principle, but before I accept responsibility for any kind of
> program, I'd like to know the conditions: how much time is available
> for the track, what are the conditions for inviting speakers, etc.

You get full repsonsibility, including reviewing proposals for
talks and/or commissioning them. The timeframe for the
tracks is not fixed yet, but a look at:

	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTimetable
and
	http://europython.zope.nl/wiki/ConferenceTracks

suggests that you have either an AM or PM session available.

In general, I think we should come up with a rough estimate
of how many talks we think we are going to get in each track.

I added the AM - PM assignment to the tracks table with emphasis
on the Python track in the hope that a lot of interesting
talks will be held in this track.

Conditions for invited speakers depend on the budget. I hope
that we'll be able to give them free admission, however,
not even that is certain.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From lac@strakt.com  Tue Feb 19 14:24:17 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:24:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] I asked Jacob Hall n how long it would take to make a non profit society in Sweden.
In-Reply-To: Message from Michael Hudson <mwh@python.net>
 of "19 Feb 2002 13:31:05 GMT." <2mwux97g4m.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <200202191308.g1JD8Ij5015969@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>  <2mwux97g4m.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <200202191424.g1JEOIGo016153@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> Laura Creighton <lac@strakt.com> writes:
> 
> > He has done this many times.  He said:  1 day.  I asked him to write it up.
> > This is his response:  'collecting 5 people' need not be done in person.
> > An Irc channel would work, or a conference telephone call.  There are
> > roughly 10 Euros in a Swedish Krona.
> 
> I think you mean ~10 krona to a euro?  E4000 a year for a bank account
> seems a bit steep...
> 
> Cheers,
> M.

Absolutely.  oh is my face red. 
Laura


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 19 14:28:59 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:28:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
In-Reply-To: <021e01c1b8d7$50fd46e0$368c84d5@skullsplitter>
References: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl> <021e01c1b8d7$50fd46e0$368c84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <20020219142859.GA31290@vet.uu.nl>

Tom Deprez wrote:
> I back you up on this Martijn.
> 
> I already tried to start some discussion about the webdesign on this list,
> but  almost nobody responded (I think only you did).
> At the moment I was thinking on something and now I see somebody did a
> wonderfull job, but damn, no I waisted my time!
> I don't like this to happen, since I already don't have much free time.

What we basically need is someone to take the lead on this, and who
will make sure everybody is coordinated. They need to nag everybody
and keep track of the status and things that are still missing, and try to
push through some sort of vision.

Is anyone willing to step forward as one? Tom?

If a leader is determined for the web and design issues we can put him or her
with big blinking letters on the wiki somewhere, so everybody knows who to
talk to. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 19 14:33:43 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:33:43 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: [EuroPython] I asked Jacob Hall?n how long it would take to make a non profit society in Sweden.
In-Reply-To: <00e401c1b949$089f66e0$4bdf1081@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <200202191308.g1JD8Ij5015969@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <00e401c1b949$089f66e0$4bdf1081@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <20020219143343.GB31290@vet.uu.nl>

Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote:
> > 1. Collect 5 people.
> > 2. Create some by-laws. They have to contain purpose, grounds for
> > membership and administrative details, like how many members the board
> > should have and how a general meeting is called.
> 
> I have some experince in being on the board for a couple of non-profit orgs
> in Sweden , and can provide good examples for bylaws (even a
> fill-in-the-blanks-and-elaborate-a-bit bylaw-form) that are specifically for
> non-profit organisations. They are in swedish, but it would be trivial to
> translate them into english if there is interest.

I'd like to see these. I know we also discussed the bylaws issue when
we were in Berlin for EuroZope, so I have at least a little bit of
a reference frame.

That said, one main question remains as to what we're actually founding:

  * an organization dedicated to the organization of EuroPython
    *conferences*

  * a more general organization about Python in Europe that happens to
    also organize conferences; i.e. a EuroPython Foundation. 

As I understand it the first approach is a bit of a lower risk; i.e.
if we did the second EuroPython may run into financial troubles from the
start (though I certainly hope and trust we can keep this risk low and not
lose any money). But of course having a EuroPython Foundation (sister
to the EuroZope foundation) wouldn't be a bad idea in general.

So what do people think is best?

Regards,

Martijn



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Tue Feb 19 14:39:33 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:39:33 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Track organization
In-Reply-To: <3C726011.F110BE02@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191538000.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Conditions for invited speakers depend on the budget. I hope that
> we'll be able to give them free admission, however, not even that is
> certain.

I agree that there is not budget figures yet, but it seems to me that free
admission for the speakers is the least we could do for them.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 19 14:41:46 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:41:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Questions / Europython Conf Organisation
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191458260.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEHKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191458260.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020219144146.GC31290@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> That would be SARL and SA in France. That's for companies, with customers,
> staff on the payroll, etc. I'm not sure that it is what we are looking
> for. Or is it ?

Nope, I don't think so either. We want a non-profit organization. When
Joachim Schmitz looked into this for EuroZope, he could find no
europe-wide organizational structure but found out that (say) a German
foundation would work fine too for this type of purpose.

If nobody know better (that there is a European style foundation), then
we'll have to base it in a country somewhere. Could be Sweden though
perhaps a euro-land country may be a trifle easier if people need to
pay money to it. Could basically be anywhere in Europe, as far as I'm
aware. But then I'm not very aware beyond this. :)

So:

  * there is no European-wide Foundation as a possibility, right?

  * if not, any special reasons to base it in a particular European country,
    or *not* any particular European country?

  * any other important points? :)

Regards,

Martijn



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Tue Feb 19 14:42:25 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:42:25 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: [EuroPython] I asked Jacob Hall?n how long it
 would take to make a non profit society in Sweden.
In-Reply-To: <20020219143343.GB31290@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191540470.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> That said, one main question remains as to what we're actually founding:
> 
>   * an organization dedicated to the organization of EuroPython
>     *conferences*
> 
>   * a more general organization about Python in Europe that happens to
>     also organize conferences; i.e. a EuroPython Foundation. 
> 
> So what do people think is best?

KISS + "Overdesign is bad" = let's go for the simplest one, we'll get into
the trouble of upgrading it later if need arises :-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Tue Feb 19 14:45:18 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:45:18 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Questions / Europython Conf Organisation
In-Reply-To: <20020219144146.GC31290@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191543310.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

>   * there is no European-wide Foundation as a possibility, right?

Searching the web, I found out that there are plans by the EC to make it a
possibility, but nothing's in existence yet, hence we have to pick a
country and use its laws.

Does anyone know better ?

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 19 14:45:21 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:45:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] aargh ! 3 days out and I must read 200 mails for Europython alone
In-Reply-To: <E16d4f9-0000bi-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <E16d4f9-0000bi-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020219144521.GD31290@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> Dear really active member of the Eurpoython team,
> 
> 3 days out (to get a rest) and I must read 200 mails for Europython alone !
> 
> Could anyone summarize what I need to read, do and provide as most important 
> info, as I'll be away fro mthe list for another 2 or 3 days

The most important thing to do is to read the budget discussion and 
offer some feedback on the organization form you think we should/could
take, or if we shouldn't, why not, etc.

How to formalize certain issues having to do with getting/spending money
and carrying risk is the most burning issue at present.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 19 14:49:27 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:49:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam, Budget Questions
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEHHDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <20020219003217.S8743@carolo.net> <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEHHDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020219144927.GE31290@vet.uu.nl>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> > Why not gnumeric ?
> 
> Hups... have SuSE7.3 but don't know if I have THIS one... and I use often my
> W*-based Laptop, so I would prefer some portable format.

I believe Gnumeric at least read and very possibly also write Excel.
But then I'm absolutely no spreadsheet person so I'll shut up on this
for now.

> > (Yes, RMS was at FOSDEM too).
> 
> Hmm... whatever you mean, it sounds good... what is RMS, and FOSDEM?

FOSDEM was a meeting on free software/open source recently held in 
Belgium. RMS stands for Richard M Stallman, who is the central free
software figure. Eccentric and very determined in his cause. Very amusing
when he sings. Wrote big pieces of things like Emacs and gcc early on.
The GNU stuff. Hard to describe.

Reference here was because Denis said "GNU/Linux", which is how RMS
wants you to describe a Linux distribution.

Regards,

Martijn



From lac@strakt.com  Tue Feb 19 14:48:58 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:48:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Questions / Europython Conf Organisation
In-Reply-To: Message from Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>
 of "Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:41:46 +0100." <20020219144146.GC31290@vet.uu.nl>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEHKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191458260.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>  <20020219144146.GC31290@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <200202191448.g1JEmwGo016502@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> > That would be SARL and SA in France. That's for companies, with customers,
> > staff on the payroll, etc. I'm not sure that it is what we are looking
> > for. Or is it ?
> 
> Nope, I don't think so either. We want a non-profit organization. When
> Joachim Schmitz looked into this for EuroZope, he could find no
> europe-wide organizational structure but found out that (say) a German
> foundation would work fine too for this type of purpose.
> 
> If nobody know better (that there is a European style foundation), then
> we'll have to base it in a country somewhere. Could be Sweden though
> perhaps a euro-land country may be a trifle easier if people need to
> pay money to it. Could basically be anywhere in Europe, as far as I'm
> aware. But then I'm not very aware beyond this. :)

You can stuff Euros into our banks.  We understand what to do with them.
Its getting Euros out, the paper, that is a problem, if that matters.
Postgiro is good for all of Europe.

> 
> So:
> 
>   * there is no European-wide Foundation as a possibility, right?

Not that I can figure.  We have to be under some jurisdiction

> 
>   * if not, any special reasons to base it in a particular European country,
>     or *not* any particular European country?
> 
>   * any other important points? :)

If we do not pay any salaries, then we do not have to register the
Society with the Swedish government, so we are not liable for taxes.
This is important.  Figure out the tax consequences of other alternatives.

> Martijn

Laura Creighton



From bh@intevation.de  Tue Feb 19 14:55:34 2002
From: bh@intevation.de (Bernhard Herzog)
Date: 19 Feb 2002 15:55:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Questions / Europython Conf Organisation
In-Reply-To: <20020219144146.GC31290@vet.uu.nl>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEHKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
 <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191458260.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
 <20020219144146.GC31290@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <6q3czxcyhl.fsf@abnoba.intevation.de>

Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl> writes:

>   * there is no European-wide Foundation as a possibility, right?

Correct, AFAIK. The FSF-Europe had the same problem. They ended up
starting with an non-profit organization in Germany ("eingetragener
Verein", to be specific) as a parent organization and they're slowly
adding sub-organizations for other european countries.

>   * any other important points? :)

One advantage of non-profit organizations is that donations to them are
usually tax-deductible. However, this doesn't work on a european level,
unfortunately. I.e. a donation from a german company to a belgian
non-profit probably wouldn't be deductible, for instance. This was one
reason for the FSFE to use the more complex setup with country specific
sub-organizations.

This is something that can't be solved until June, of course, but may be
important to keep in mind when thinking about a more permanent setup for
a european Python organization.

   Bernhard

-- 
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From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Tue Feb 19 17:33:31 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 18:33:31 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Press Release
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191831490.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

Hey,

Is the press release considered done ? Is the french translation
considered done ? Does it need proof-reading ?

I am ready to send to good news to several french speaking people, but
first I'd like to be sure this press release is our final answer.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)




From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Tue Feb 19 19:29:02 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 20:29:02 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Budget Questions / Europython Conf Organisation
In-Reply-To: <6q3czxcyhl.fsf@abnoba.intevation.de>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEIBDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>


> >   * there is no European-wide Foundation as a possibility, right?
>
> Correct, AFAIK. The FSF-Europe had the same problem. They ended up
> starting with an non-profit organization in Germany ("eingetragener
> Verein", to be specific) as a parent organization and they're slowly
> adding sub-organizations for other european countries.

As I wrote today I may have found something which is supported from EU and
already "in use". Some sort of light-weight european society. I have to read
some dull, boring legal stuff I printed out tomorrow, will provide more
informations later.

Andrew



From andy@reportlab.com  Tue Feb 19 15:21:10 2002
From: andy@reportlab.com (Andy Robinson)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:21:10 -0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: [EuroPython] I asked Jacob Hall?n how long it would take to make a non profit society in Sweden.
In-Reply-To: <20020219143343.GB31290@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <PGECLPOBGNBNKHNAGIJHIELEDCAA.andy@reportlab.com>

> That said, one main question remains as to what we're
> actually founding:
>
>   * an organization dedicated to the organization of EuroPython
>     *conferences*
>
>   * a more general organization about Python in Europe that
> happens to
>     also organize conferences; i.e. a EuroPython Foundation.
>

I think there are good grounds for having the second, one day.
In the UK and US, clubs, societies and companies all must have
some kind of charter saying "what they are for", but this can
be a vague sentence which leaves both options open.

BTW, I know a team at a large consulting firm who regularly apply
for and get large EU research grants.  They put together some
academics, some developers and some vague requirements from the EU,
and initiate and manage large projects.  What prevented ReportLab
being involved so far was that they need "partners" who are
(a) European and (b) non-profit.  If such a foundation existed, there
is a good chance it could be a partner in such projects and used
to get some money and even employ Python developers one day.

IF things are looking suitably non-chaotic nearer the time,
I will try to get the relevant firm to attend the conference.
They nearly made it to LSM last year, but the lack of a business
focus turned them off at the last moment.

- Andy Robinson



From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 19 20:29:23 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 21:29:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: [EuroPython] I asked Jacob Hall?n how long it would
 take to make a non profit society in Sweden.
References: <PGECLPOBGNBNKHNAGIJHIELEDCAA.andy@reportlab.com>
Message-ID: <3C72B5A3.A94BEE5C@lemburg.com>

Andy Robinson wrote:
> 
> > That said, one main question remains as to what we're
> > actually founding:
> >
> >   * an organization dedicated to the organization of EuroPython
> >     *conferences*
> >
> >   * a more general organization about Python in Europe that
> > happens to
> >     also organize conferences; i.e. a EuroPython Foundation.
> >
> 
> I think there are good grounds for having the second, one day.

One day, yes, but for the current conference, we'll need
just any kind of (possibly short-lived) organization. And
we need it fast :-/

BTW, the PSF will possibly reach out to Europe as well. That move
will have to be well though over though, since we will probably
need one non-profit foundation at the top with country-based
ones underneath (in order to get the non-profit benefits in all
EU-countries).

> BTW, I know a team at a large consulting firm who regularly apply
> for and get large EU research grants.  They put together some
> academics, some developers and some vague requirements from the EU,
> and initiate and manage large projects.  What prevented ReportLab
> being involved so far was that they need "partners" who are
> (a) European and (b) non-profit.  If such a foundation existed, there
> is a good chance it could be a partner in such projects and used
> to get some money and even employ Python developers one day.
> 
> IF things are looking suitably non-chaotic nearer the time,
> I will try to get the relevant firm to attend the conference.
> They nearly made it to LSM last year, but the lack of a business
> focus turned them off at the last moment.

Sounds like a good contact :-)

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Tue Feb 19 19:29:01 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 20:29:01 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython]  BudgetTeam: Europython Conf Organisation
In-Reply-To: <m3k7t960g3.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEIBDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hmm... to summarize the replies:

I think we all agree that the Conference Organisation has to be some sort of
non-profit-society.

There are known ways to form a society (in Germany it's even a bit more
simple... if 2 people agree to do something together it's already some sort
of society called GbR. No forms, no written statement...), but till now we
know nothing about a equivalent in Belgium.

Question I: where do we found the society? Belgium? France? Germany? Sweden?
Madeira?

(Please vote; you have a vote for the quality of the singing, one vote for
the permformance of the artist and one vote how closly the artist resemble
one randomly choosen spectator; your vote ranges from 1 to 10 :-)  The last
"country" wins because for the sun... ;-)

Question II: what is pragramtic and practical?
- where will the most money spent? -> probably Belgium
- where will the most money contributed? -> different countries?

Question III: are there known non-profit societies which have limited
liabilities? Usual the easy-formed societies split the risc of debts to the
members of the society. In Germany a creditor can choose any member of a
society to pay the _full_ debt...

Question IV: who will found the society in given country? -> we have to get
a count of willing people in each country to see if we have enough.
Citizenship restrictions may apply...

Andrew



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Tue Feb 19 22:20:44 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 23:20:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] European Python Conference Organisation
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEIDDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Yup, I found something which might be/probably is a sort of european
organisation.

Possible since 1989; there are currently around 800 so called EWIV (german
abbreviation, something like 'european economical interest association').

Background: you can found a EWIV association in any choosen european
country. In each country is a mapping between the EWIV and a given
association/organisational law. In different countries are different
restrictions to EWIV (e.g. in Irland a EWIV can not have more than 20
members, in Spain you can not move a EWIV to another country if it is again
national interest and stuff like that).

A EWIV is registered in one germany country (the usual registration offices)
and then published european-wide. A EWIV can move beetween countries without
bigger problems, like: founded in Germany, moved to Belgium. You don't have
to re-found the association.

The founding is as easy as any other: at least 2 people/organisations from 2
different european countries are needed. No funding necessary, minimal
formal requirements. The association can be founded for a given time or for
ever.

The association is a own legal person, can have treaties, bank accounts. If
there are unpaid debts the association cannot pay than the members will have
to pay.

EWIV's are used by companies as well by non-profit-organisations (example:
Choroi Association - GEIE).

EWIV's cannot be members of others EWIV's...

The whole document is about 105 pages; some questions are still open
(tax-deduction?).

The biggest problem, though, will be to get the registration offices to
register the EWIV. I doubt that many people in our well-feared bureaucratic
know about this...

Maybe one to two people other than should go hunting for english versions of
the document and more data:
Some anchors:
 - based on european regulation (EWG) 2137/85
 - there is a network called „REGIE“ which supplies informations and
contacts

Some address:
 Amt für amtliche Veröffentlichungen der Europäischen Gemeinschaften -
EUR-OP
 Section „Marchés publics“
 2, rue Mercier
 L-2985 Luxemburg
 Fax: +352/2929 42670

 Europäische Kommission
 Sekretariat von Herrn Reinhard Schulte-Braucks - GD XXIII/A/1
 Rue de la Loi 200, AN 80
 B-1049 Brüssel
 (Fax +32.2.295.97.84)

The law about EWIV in Belgium is based on:
 - law from 12.7.89 about the introduction of EWIV
 - regulation 8/1989 dating 31.8.89 about taxes

The link (105 German pages)
http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/library/lib-entrepreneurship/doc/geie/h
andbkde.pdf

Andrew



From sf@fermigier.com  Tue Feb 19 22:43:56 2002
From: sf@fermigier.com (Stefane Fermigier)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 23:43:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] European Python Conference Organisation
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEIDDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>; from Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de on Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 11:20:44PM +0100
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEIDDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <20020219234356.H87159@math.jussieu.fr>

On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 11:20:44PM +0100, Andrew Smart wrote:
> Yup, I found something which might be/probably is a sort of european
> organisation.
>=20
> Possible since 1989; there are currently around 800 so called EWIV (ger=
man
> abbreviation, something like 'european economical interest association'=
).

Thanks for the research, I believe it's the right direction to look into.

> The link (105 German pages)
> http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/library/lib-entrepreneurship/doc/g=
eie/h
> andbkde.pdf

Also available in french en english (handbkfr.pdf, handbken.pdf).

	S.

--=20
St=E9fane Fermigier, Tel: +33 (0)6 63 04 12 77 (mobile).
http://nuxeo.com/ & http://portalux.com/ & http://aful.org/
"Amazon: we patent the dot in .com"


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Tue Feb 19 23:18:13 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:18:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] the wiki moved
Message-ID: <20020219231813.GA323@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

Due to some miscommunication a link to our half-baked wiki was included
in the Python-URL. I don't want the whole world to run into our
wiki; the wiki is not for public consumption at all, even though it is
public in the sense that it's open.

So I'm renaming the wiki to 'draftwiki' to make everything entirely clear
to the futurefuture, and adjust the 'wiki' link to point back to the
homepage..

Sorry for the inconvenience, but I can't pull back all those Python-URLs
and I don't want people to run into the wiki first thing they see.

Regards,

Martijn



From mvm@brutele.be  Tue Feb 19 23:24:15 2002
From: mvm@brutele.be (vincent)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:24:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] For your lost time ...
Message-ID: <000701c1b99c$8c010b80$3aff44d4@gfx>

... Before you say thank you for your devotion or your job.

Second, you say sorry but we looking for a simple mind...

See you soon,

Your Designer web, Vincent.



From dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de  Tue Feb 19 23:13:03 2002
From: dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de (dagmar kolb de)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:13:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
References: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl> <021e01c1b8d7$50fd46e0$368c84d5@skullsplitter> <20020219142859.GA31290@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C72DC00.E4F7F3D4@just-ad.de>

Hi Martijn, hi Tom

since I join the list only since one day, I did not get the beginning in
this thread. Just know following mail:

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Tom Deprez wrote:
> > I back you up on this Martijn.
> >
> > I already tried to start some discussion about the webdesign on this list,
> > but  almost nobody responded (I think only you did).
> > At the moment I was thinking on something and now I see somebody did a
> > wonderfull job, but damn, no I waisted my time!
> > I don't like this to happen, since I already don't have much free time.
> 
> What we basically need is someone to take the lead on this, and who
> will make sure everybody is coordinated. They need to nag everybody
> and keep track of the status and things that are still missing, and try to
> push through some sort of vision.
> 
> Is anyone willing to step forward as one? Tom?
> 
> If a leader is determined for the web and design issues we can put him or her
> with big blinking letters on the wiki somewhere, so everybody knows who to
> talk to. :)
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Martijn

I agree to you, that there should be a leader. As far as I follow the
discussion here, there is still a lot to organise and put into a legal
form.... I work on the logo, I will keep track of  this, of course. But
I still do not know who elso does what. For example the webdesign. My
only contact so far is Andrew Smart. So if you can give some more infos,
do not hesitate to get in touch :-)) 

If you have any questions about the logo design, print realisation,
webdesign ... just send me a mail :-))

cu
dago
--
JUST AD. Einfach werben. 
Grafik · Photographie · PR · Webdesign
Dipl.-Designerin Dagmar Kolb · mobil 0170.86 57 346
mailto dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de · http://www.just-ad.de


From dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de  Tue Feb 19 23:32:37 2002
From: dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de (dagmar kolb de)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:32:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Intro / EUROPYTHON LOGO 2nd
Message-ID: <3C72E095.18E1A0E5@just-ad.de>

Hi everybody,

may I introduce myself first? My name is Dagmar (dago) Kolb. I am
graphic designer *signature below*, knowing  Andrew Smart for quite a
while :-)) That is how I stumbled somehow into this python thing *gg* 

Anyway, nice to be on this list since today. You got the first layouts
for the logo and here is the second version. Thanks a lot for your
feedback, Marc Balmer, Nicolas Chauvat and Michael Hudson. Look at the
new ones, you will like them :-)

Sorry, but again I got a mail that I have to wait till the listmaster
approves my mail with the attachment. Still too big, though I allready
splitted it...

Thanks for your patience, this is text only.
cu
dago
--
JUST AD. Einfach werben. 
Grafik · Photographie · PR · Webdesign
Dipl.-Designerin Dagmar Kolb · mobil 0170.86 57 346
mailto dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de · http://www.just-ad.de


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 20 00:03:07 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 01:03:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] press release is ready
Message-ID: <20020220000307.GA921@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

Since nobody seems to say that the press release isn't ready for
sending, I will just declare it 'ready' and hope the best.

So let's go send out some press releases!

I've frozen the English version of the press release. You can get a 
plain text version here:

http://www.europython.org/press_releases/d20020215/en

Only the English version for now; if the other languages are ready please
let me know and I'll add them.

The HTML version of the press release on the homepage is generated
from the plain text structured text version. A bit clunky, and we should
replace the homepage text with something shorter and move the press
release off to some sub pages eventually. 

A reminder that the wiki has moved:

http://www.europython.org/draftwiki

we can move it back once the Python-URLs have disappeared from most news
sites homepages, if desired.

Regards,

Martijn



From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Wed Feb 20 00:13:31 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 01:13:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
References: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl> <021e01c1b8d7$50fd46e0$368c84d5@skullsplitter> <20020219142859.GA31290@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <02ac01c1b9a3$6fcf02d0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>

> What we basically need is someone to take the lead on this, and who will
make sure everybody is coordinated. They need to nag everybody
> and keep track of the status and things that are still missing, and try to
push through some sort of vision.
>
> Is anyone willing to step forward as one? Tom?

Well, I've seen far better designs than I can do myself, so I think I better
leave the design to the people with the experience and just work on some
technical parts of the web, which I was doing in the first place. But I find
it hard to seperate it completely with design stuff :-).
So,  perhaps it's better to let somebody of the design persons coördinate
the web design stuff. If nobody wants to take up, then I might step forward,
not that I will be able to bring good input.

So far, I know of 2 webdesigners working on EuroPython (If I forget someone,
please let me know):

dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de
mvm@brutele.be

Perhaps it's good if the web-designers talk to each other and share their
ideas?

Regards, Tom.


> If a leader is determined for the web and design issues we can put him or
her
> with big blinking letters on the wiki somewhere, so everybody knows who to
> talk to. :)
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn
>




From all@123piano.com  Wed Feb 20 07:53:06 2002
From: all@123piano.com (Philippe Jadin)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 08:53:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
References: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl> <021e01c1b8d7$50fd46e0$368c84d5@skullsplitter> <20020219142859.GA31290@vet.uu.nl> <02ac01c1b9a3$6fcf02d0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <3C7355E2.3040402@123piano.com>

Tom Deprez wrote:

>Well, I've seen far better designs than I can do myself, so I think I better
>leave the design to the people with the experience and just work on some
>technical parts of the web, which I was doing in the first place. But I find
>it hard to seperate it completely with design stuff :-).
>So,  perhaps it's better to let somebody of the design persons coördinate
>the web design stuff. If nobody wants to take up, then I might step forward,
>not that I will be able to bring good input.
>
They are quite slightly related of course... I'd like to help as well 
(I'm on http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/DesignTeam ).

I think we need to settle on some simple conventions for the website 
"architecture", like for example

- one folder per page
- a "content" dtml doc in each folder
- use standard html headers and footer
- have a single index_html file containing :

<dtml-var standard_html_header>
<dtml-var content fmt="structured-text">
<dtml-var standard_html_footer>

- have a single print dtml method like :

<dtml-var print_html_header>
<dtml-var content fmt="structured-text">
<dtml-var print_html_footer>

 From that, we can define some navigational methods, add search, 
breadcrumbs, etc...

The design team should provide those standard html headers and footers, 
and imho we could work together on the design.
Btw, it would ease a lot if the navigation bars were done with html text 
only (in this case we can autogenerate them).

As for the design itself, it would go faster if every designer (or the 
group of designers) provided some layouts in bitmap format (no need to 
mess with html at this stage), then we could all vote which one is the 
best, then implement this design in html/css. In the mean time we can 
use a minimal design like the one currently there.

Does it sounds like a good battleplan ?

>So far, I know of 2 webdesigners working on EuroPython (If I forget someone,
>please let me know):
>
>dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de
>mvm@brutele.be
>
you may add philippe@123piano.com :)

>Perhaps it's good if the web-designers talk to each other and share their
>ideas?
>
>Regards, Tom.
>
>
>>If a leader is determined for the web and design issues we can put him or
>>
>her
>
>>with big blinking letters on the wiki somewhere, so everybody knows who to
>>talk to. :)
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Martijn
>>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>EuroPython mailing list
>EuroPython@python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>





From lac@strakt.com  Wed Feb 20 08:19:23 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:19:23 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Budget Questions / Europython Conf Organisation
In-Reply-To: Message from "Andrew Smart" <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
 of "Tue, 19 Feb 2002 20:29:02 +0100." <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEIBDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEIBDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <200202200819.g1K8JNGo017774@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> As I wrote today I may have found something which is supported from EU and
> already "in use". Some sort of light-weight european society. I have to read
> some dull, boring legal stuff I printed out tomorrow, will provide more
> informations later.
> 
> Andrew

Can we have a URL?  Thank you.
Laura Creighton


From jacek@artymiak.com  Wed Feb 20 10:25:56 2002
From: jacek@artymiak.com (Jacek Artymiak)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:25:56 -0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial: Using FreeMovie
In-Reply-To: <1014119431.3c723c075fc13@webmail.in-berlin.de>; from gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de on Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:31PM +0100
References: <E16crAP-0000pm-00@mail.python.org> <20020219011628.Q26210@skuba.h--y.com> <1014102532.3c71fa041fca8@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020219123714.S26210@skuba.h--y.com> <1014119431.3c723c075fc13@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <20020220092556.V26210@skuba.h--y.com>

On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 12:50:31PM +0100, Dinu Gherman wrote:
> > That should be enough to fill 3 hours :-)
> > 
> > What do you think?
> 
> Have a look in the time schedule to check if there is space
> for a dedicated conference track! ;-)

:-))) Good idea!

> More seriously, you should check www.reportlab.com as they
> have quite some of what you list above, including vector
> ...
> cause of potential license issues... ReportLab is FreeBSD-
> licensed).

That's a tempting challenge. I don't know their products but
I will put that on a TODO list for the FreeMovie project.

The licensing issues are less important, as I'm changing the FreeMovie license from GPL to LGPL, which should ease the pain of mixing code.

-- 
Jacek Artymiak
writer, author, developer, consultant --------------------------- 
e-mail: jacek@artymiak.com            ---------------------------
   www: http://www.artymiak.com       ---------------------------


From jacek@artymiak.com  Wed Feb 20 10:33:23 2002
From: jacek@artymiak.com (Jacek Artymiak)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:33:23 -0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial: Using FreeMovie
In-Reply-To: <6q8z9pd4pz.fsf@abnoba.intevation.de>; from bh@intevation.de on Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 01:40:56PM +0100
References: <E16crAP-0000pm-00@mail.python.org> <20020219011628.Q26210@skuba.h--y.com> <1014102532.3c71fa041fca8@webmail.in-berlin.de> <20020219123714.S26210@skuba.h--y.com> <1014119431.3c723c075fc13@webmail.in-berlin.de> <6q8z9pd4pz.fsf@abnoba.intevation.de>
Message-ID: <20020220093322.W26210@skuba.h--y.com>

On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 01:40:56PM +0100, Bernhard Herzog wrote:
> How much interest would there be in a graphics track? There are quite a

Count me in for the graphics track.

> few graphics projects in Python. In addition to freemovie and reportlab,
> there's piddle/sping, PIL, Justs's font-stuff and Sketch (and no doubt
> I'm forgetting some).

Blender, tdmagic, Alice, RoboFog, ...

Python is also used in commercial applications like Caligari trueSpace.

-- 
Jacek Artymiak
writer, author, developer, consultant --------------------------- 
e-mail: jacek@artymiak.com            ---------------------------
   www: http://www.artymiak.com       ---------------------------


From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 20 08:39:27 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:39:27 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython]  BudgetTeam: Europython Conf Organisation
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEIBDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <3C7360BF.7B04AD95@lemburg.com>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> 
> Hmm... to summarize the replies:
> 
> I think we all agree that the Conference Organisation has to be some sort of
> non-profit-society.

While it's desirable to form a non-profit organization, we
don't have the time for this. In order to become non-profit, one
usually has to go through a few hoops to get the official
status.

More important than the non-profit status is IMHO that the
people who will run the conference are legal part of the
association and that the aim of that organization is
somehow set in stone with a focus on the conference.
A close binding to the city of Charleroi would probably
be a good idea, if that's possible.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From jacek@artymiak.com  Wed Feb 20 10:44:46 2002
From: jacek@artymiak.com (Jacek Artymiak)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:44:46 -0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial: Using FreeMovie
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191502060.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>; from Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr on Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 03:02:50PM +0100
References: <6q8z9pd4pz.fsf@abnoba.intevation.de> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191502060.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020220094446.X26210@skuba.h--y.com>

On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 03:02:50PM +0100, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> Sounds like a good idea. To me at least. Unless someone objects, please
> create the track in the wiki and add your name there.

No objections.  I added Python in Computer Graphics track on the tutorial day. 

-- 
Jacek Artymiak
writer, author, developer, consultant --------------------------- 
e-mail: jacek@artymiak.com            ---------------------------
   www: http://www.artymiak.com       ---------------------------


From all@123piano.com  Wed Feb 20 08:51:52 2002
From: all@123piano.com (Philippe Jadin)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:51:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial: Using FreeMovie
References: <6q8z9pd4pz.fsf@abnoba.intevation.de> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191502060.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020220094446.X26210@skuba.h--y.com>
Message-ID: <3C7363A8.50504@123piano.com>

Jacek Artymiak wrote:

>On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 03:02:50PM +0100, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
>
>>Sounds like a good idea. To me at least. Unless someone objects, please
>>create the track in the wiki and add your name there.
>>
>
>No objections.  I added Python in Computer Graphics track on the tutorial day. 
>
count me in as a *very* interested "spectator"

philippe




From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 20 08:53:34 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:53:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] European Python Conference Organisation
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEIDDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <3C73640E.39A83825@lemburg.com>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> 
> Yup, I found something which might be/probably is a sort of european
> organisation.
> 
> Possible since 1989; there are currently around 800 so called EWIV (german
> abbreviation, something like 'european economical interest association').

Thanks for the research. However, the problem with this form is
that only entrepreneurs can be members of such an association.
It is not open to people who don't run a business of some sort.

I believe that we should ask the city of Charleroi for help
here. Perhaps they can come up with a good form and help
with getting it up and running fast ?!

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 20 08:56:50 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:56:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] the wiki moved
References: <20020219231813.GA323@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C7364D2.E19A6DED@lemburg.com>


Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Due to some miscommunication a link to our half-baked wiki was included
> in the Python-URL. I don't want the whole world to run into our
> wiki; the wiki is not for public consumption at all, even though it is
> public in the sense that it's open.
> 
> So I'm renaming the wiki to 'draftwiki' to make everything entirely clear
> to the futurefuture, and adjust the 'wiki' link to point back to the
> homepage..
> 
> Sorry for the inconvenience, but I can't pull back all those Python-URLs
> and I don't want people to run into the wiki first thing they see.

Please also make sure that we have daily backups of the content.
The information stored in the wiki is starting to become vital
for the conference...

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Wed Feb 20 09:01:47 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:01:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Team: PathToFollow, Bank Account, Credit Cards, CEO
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEIHDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi,

after some thinking I would suggest the following path:

- get more informations about EWIV's
  parallel: get more informations about non-profit-organisations in Belgium

- decision what type of association to found, and where to found
  => if we have willing people in Belgium / Chareloi then we should found in
Belgium
     if not: take the country where such people exist

After the decision:

- We need a sort of "CEO" for the association which has primary access to
bank account
  and has the right to sign contracts and so on.

=> Who is willing to join the association?

=> Who is willing to be "CEO"?

=> Who is willing to support the "paper-work"?

"Let the cash flow":
I think, the easiest way to _get_ the money (contributions) is to use credit
cards.
It's a bit expensive (i think around 4% commission) but most of the people /
companies can pay with CC.
Everyone else has to send checkes or has to transfer the money via wire.

=> we need people with experience with credit card payments?

=> maybe we can use an existing e-shop/cc contract (EuroZope e.V.?) which
"sells" contributions?

If we have a bank account, then we should get EC Cards with PIN for the
people who have to use cash or have to make direct payments in shops. These
EC Cards works almost everywhere in Europe. Additionally the bank account
should have some sort of electronic banking (best browser-based) and the
(choosen?) members of the society have the right to look into the bank
account and the transactions. But not everbody should have the ability to
make transactions, though.

Andrew



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Wed Feb 20 09:04:19 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:04:19 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] European Python Conference Organisation
In-Reply-To: <3C73640E.39A83825@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEIIDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

> Marc-Andre Lemburg:
> Thanks for the research. However, the problem with this form is
> that only entrepreneurs can be members of such an association.
> It is not open to people who don't run a business of some sort.

As to my knowledge every natural person can be member of a EWIV. All need
that you have some sort of economic activity, and organisation of a
conference counts as one. As I have written there are existing
non-profit-EWIV's.

You don't have to be entrepeneur.

Andrew




From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 20 09:05:01 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:05:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] For your lost time ...
References: <000701c1b99c$8c010b80$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <3C7366BD.EED21AA4@lemburg.com>

vincent wrote:
> 
> ... Before you say thank you for your devotion or your job.
> 
> Second, you say sorry but we looking for a simple mind...
> 
> See you soon,
> 
> Your Designer web, Vincent.

I don't understand: are you disappointed or angry ? I don't
think that anyone wanted to upset you or put down your work.

The problem is that we should have talked about the design of
the web-site *before* having you do any work on it. I believe
that we're all sorry for the way this turned out.

Again, perhaps you ought to start a conference web design team
and open up a wiki page for the design guidelines. Then, after
a few weeks, there should be a deadline and after that you
are in control.

How does that sound ?

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Wed Feb 20 08:45:54 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 09:45:54 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: [EuroPython] Budget Questions / Europython Conf Organisation
In-Reply-To: <200202200819.g1K8JNGo017774@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEIHDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

> Can we have a URL?  Thank you.
> Laura Creighton

Please see my following mail, there is the link

Andrew




From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 20 09:42:44 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:42:44 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] European Python Conference Organisation
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEIIDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <3C736F94.D76826B2@lemburg.com>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> 
> > Marc-Andre Lemburg:
> > Thanks for the research. However, the problem with this form is
> > that only entrepreneurs can be members of such an association.
> > It is not open to people who don't run a business of some sort.
> 
> As to my knowledge every natural person can be member of a EWIV. All need
> that you have some sort of economic activity, and organisation of a
> conference counts as one. 

I have my doubts here, since the definition of economic activity
usually includes making profit. Reading the document, it seems that
the main aim was to raise cooperations between companies to a
EU level.

> As I have written there are existing
> non-profit-EWIV's.

This is no contractdiction to the members being profit oriented,
IMHO.

Let's hope I am wrong since this form of organization does indeed
look very promising to what we have in mind.

Does anybody have contacts to one of those non-profit EWIVs ? 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From tom.deprez@village.uunet.be  Wed Feb 20 09:55:24 2002
From: tom.deprez@village.uunet.be (Tom Deprez)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:55:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
References: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl> <021e01c1b8d7$50fd46e0$368c84d5@skullsplitter> <20020219142859.GA31290@vet.uu.nl> <02ac01c1b9a3$6fcf02d0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter> <3C7355E2.3040402@123piano.com>
Message-ID: <004501c1b9f4$b875a100$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>

<snip>

>They are quite slightly related of course... I'd like to help as well
>(I'm on http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/DesignTeam ).

>I think we need to settle on some simple conventions for the website
>"architecture", like for example

>- one folder per page
>- a "content" dtml doc in each folder
>- use standard html headers and footer
>- have a single index_html file containing :

><dtml-var standard_html_header>
><dtml-var content fmt="structured-text">
><dtml-var standard_html_footer>

I agree on all above, exactly what I had in mind, but I was thinking on ZPT,
instead of DTML.

>- have a single print dtml method like :

><dtml-var print_html_header>
><dtml-var content fmt="structured-text">
><dtml-var print_html_footer>

> From that, we can define some navigational methods, add search,
breadcrumbs, etc...

yup

>The design team should provide those standard html headers and footers, and
imho we could work together on the design.
>Btw, it would ease a lot if the navigation bars were done with html text
only (in this case we can autogenerate them).

>As for the design itself, it would go faster if every designer (or the
group of designers) provided some layouts in bitmap format (no need to
>mess with html at this stage), then we could all vote which one is the
best, then implement this design in html/css. In the mean time we can
>use a minimal design like the one currently there.
>Does it sounds like a good battleplan ?

Good battle plan. Does everybody feels comfortable on this?

>So far, I know of 3webdesigners working on EuroPython (If I forget
someone,please let me know):

dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de
mvm@brutele.be
philippe@123piano.com

Regards, Tom.




From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 20 09:57:11 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:57:11 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] European Python Conference Organisation
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEIIDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <3C736F94.D76826B2@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <3C7372F7.31D05A12@lemburg.com>

"M.-A. Lemburg" wrote:
> 
> Andrew Smart wrote:
> >
> > > Marc-Andre Lemburg:
> > > Thanks for the research. However, the problem with this form is
> > > that only entrepreneurs can be members of such an association.
> > > It is not open to people who don't run a business of some sort.
> >
> > As to my knowledge every natural person can be member of a EWIV. All need
> > that you have some sort of economic activity, and organisation of a
> > conference counts as one.
> 
> I have my doubts here, since the definition of economic activity
> usually includes making profit. Reading the document, it seems that
> the main aim was to raise cooperations between companies to a
> EU level.

If you look at page 45, 2.2, they even explicitly exclude other
non-profit organizations from becoming an EWIV member.
There's also no mention of non-profit in the document.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de  Tue Feb 19 22:29:18 2002
From: dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de (dagmar kolb de)
Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 23:29:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EUROPYTHON LOGO 2nd
Message-ID: <3C72D1BF.7A79535D@just-ad.de>

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Hi everybody,

may I introduce myself first? My name is Dagmar (dago) Kolb. I am
graphic designer *signature below*, knowing  Andrew Smart for quite a
while :-)) That is how I stumbled somehow into this python thing *gg* 

Anyway, nice to be on this list since today. You got the first layouts
for the logo and here is the second version. Thanks a lot for your
feedback, Marc Balmer, Nicolas Chauvat and Michael Hudson. Look at the
new ones, you will like them :-)

cu
dago
--
JUST AD. Einfach werben. 
Grafik · Photographie · PR · Webdesign
Dipl.-Designerin Dagmar Kolb · mobil 0170.86 57 346
mailto dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de · http://www.just-ad.de
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From dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de  Tue Feb 19 23:22:46 2002
From: dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de (dagmar kolb de)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:22:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EUROPYTHON LOGO 2nd splitted 2
Message-ID: <3C72DE47.EEE076B@just-ad.de>

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Hi everybody,

here is the second part ogf the new layouts.

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Dipl.-Designerin Dagmar Kolb · mobil 0170.86 57 346
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From dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de  Tue Feb 19 23:23:50 2002
From: dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de (dagmar kolb de)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:23:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EUROPYTHON LOGO 2nd
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Hi everybody,

3rd part of the new layouts :-)

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From tom.deprez@village.uunet.be  Wed Feb 20 10:18:33 2002
From: tom.deprez@village.uunet.be (Tom Deprez)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:18:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EUROPYTHON LOGO 2nd
References: <3C72D1BF.7A79535D@just-ad.de>
Message-ID: <008701c1b9f8$056a11f0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>

Just wondering....

What would it give if the python made a circle and the stars were on the
body of the snake.

Just an idea, don't know if it would be nice.

Tom.

----- Original Message -----
From: "dagmar kolb de" <dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de>
To: "Europython" <europython@python.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:29 PM
Subject: [EuroPython] EUROPYTHON LOGO 2nd


Hi everybody,

may I introduce myself first? My name is Dagmar (dago) Kolb. I am
graphic designer *signature below*, knowing  Andrew Smart for quite a
while :-)) That is how I stumbled somehow into this python thing *gg*

Anyway, nice to be on this list since today. You got the first layouts
for the logo and here is the second version. Thanks a lot for your
feedback, Marc Balmer, Nicolas Chauvat and Michael Hudson. Look at the
new ones, you will like them :-)

cu
dago
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From oli@aragne.com  Wed Feb 20 10:26:15 2002
From: oli@aragne.com (Olivier Laurent)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:26:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
In-Reply-To: <3C7355E2.3040402@123piano.com>
References: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl> <02ac01c1b9a3$6fcf02d0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter> <3C7355E2.3040402@123piano.com>
Message-ID: <200202201026.ATO63155@mirapoint2.brutele.be>

On Wednesday 20 February 2002 08:53, Philippe Jadin wrote:
> Tom Deprez wrote:
> >Well, I've seen far better designs than I can do myself, so I think I
> > better leave the design to the people with the experience and just work
> > on some technical parts of the web, which I was doing in the first place.
> > But I find it hard to seperate it completely with design stuff :-).
> >So,  perhaps it's better to let somebody of the design persons coördinate
> >the web design stuff. If nobody wants to take up, then I might step
> > forward, not that I will be able to bring good input.
>
> They are quite slightly related of course... I'd like to help as well
> (I'm on http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/DesignTeam ).
>
> I think we need to settle on some simple conventions for the website
> "architecture", like for example
>
> - one folder per page
> - a "content" dtml doc in each folder
> - use standard html headers and footer
> - have a single index_html file containing :
>
> <dtml-var standard_html_header>
> <dtml-var content fmt="structured-text">
> <dtml-var standard_html_footer>
>
> - have a single print dtml method like :
>
> <dtml-var print_html_header>
> <dtml-var content fmt="structured-text">
> <dtml-var print_html_footer>

If you want to go faster and If you like the http://europython.p3b.org 
layout. I can give access to Tom for example or export the whole site. I'm 
not talking about colors or logos here but the general layout like tables and 
the place of things on the page.

The site is nearly exactly following the conventions that Tom talked about a 
few lines above. With the exception that I'm not using structured text.

>  From that, we can define some navigational methods, add search,
> breadcrumbs, etc...

I have top and bottom breadcrumbs, a print method but no search capabilities. 
I also have a simple css style sheet.
Each page (Folder) can have two or three (default) columns. It depends on a 
Folder attibute.

Each navigation table (on the left) is a DTML method which lies in a Folder 
called 'navig'. And each news table (on the right) is an instance of a 
product of our own. The product is very beta but a DTML method can do the 
same. A News Entry has some attibutes: an author, a expiration date, an 
expired boolean, a news summary, a creation date and a format (html or 
structured text). A news entry can also be 'not visible', 'visible if 
authenticated' (for testing) or 'validated'.

Just tell me if you are interested.

-- 
Olivier Laurent
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 20 10:29:04 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:29:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
In-Reply-To: <02ac01c1b9a3$6fcf02d0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>
References: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl> <021e01c1b8d7$50fd46e0$368c84d5@skullsplitter> <20020219142859.GA31290@vet.uu.nl> <02ac01c1b9a3$6fcf02d0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <20020220102904.GA2672@vet.uu.nl>

Tom Deprez wrote:
> > What we basically need is someone to take the lead on this, and who will
> make sure everybody is coordinated. They need to nag everybody
> > and keep track of the status and things that are still missing, and try to
> push through some sort of vision.
> >
> > Is anyone willing to step forward as one? Tom?
> 
> Well, I've seen far better designs than I can do myself, so I think I better
> leave the design to the people with the experience and just work on some
> technical parts of the web, which I was doing in the first place. But I find
> it hard to seperate it completely with design stuff :-).
> So,  perhaps it's better to let somebody of the design persons co?rdinate
> the web design stuff. If nobody wants to take up, then I might step forward,
> not that I will be able to bring good input.

It isn't just about design (though coordination is needed there too), but
the entire technical and infrastructural aspects of the website as well.
For instance, the DNS of www.europython.org still hasn't changed to point
to the right server, and we're still dealing with redirects, I think.
So the in-charge person would do the nagging. On the design issue, the
in-charge person would say what designs are good, what needs to be better,
keep track of the goals, and get the right people (like the several people
we have designing logos so far!) to get in touch with each other.

Does anyone feel ready to take care of all of this? It'd take a load off
my back, as now it's just rather completely unfocused with parallel 
activities! And don't worry, I'll still nag the web design and design
groups whenever I get worried about something. :) By the way, if web 
and design teams are not the right split, then this mythical leader
should just change it all around according to his or her own insights.

> So far, I know of 2 webdesigners working on EuroPython (If I forget someone,
> please let me know):
> 
> dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de
> mvm@brutele.be
> 
> Perhaps it's good if the web-designers talk to each other and share their
> ideas?

Yes, that kind of common-sense idea is exactly what we need. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 20 10:33:31 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:33:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] the wiki moved
In-Reply-To: <3C7364D2.E19A6DED@lemburg.com>
References: <20020219231813.GA323@vet.uu.nl> <3C7364D2.E19A6DED@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020220103331.GC2672@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > Sorry for the inconvenience, but I can't pull back all those Python-URLs
> > and I don't want people to run into the wiki first thing they see.
> 
> Please also make sure that we have daily backups of the content.
> The information stored in the wiki is starting to become vital
> for the conference...

Good idea. I'll ask Ivo for it, and if not, I'll try to come up with
a sort of auto-backup script I can run here.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 20 10:38:33 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:38:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] For your lost time ...
In-Reply-To: <3C7366BD.EED21AA4@lemburg.com>
References: <000701c1b99c$8c010b80$3aff44d4@gfx> <3C7366BD.EED21AA4@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020220103833.GE2672@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
[snip confusing post from Vincent]
> I don't understand: are you disappointed or angry ? I don't
> think that anyone wanted to upset you or put down your work.
> 
> The problem is that we should have talked about the design of
> the web-site *before* having you do any work on it. I believe
> that we're all sorry for the way this turned out.

Yes; I wish that had happened too. I should've been more vigilant
about this -- I heard various people said they asked various people
to do aspects of the design but didn't really track it all down.
Should've made sure everybody was aware that they should discuss
things with each other. I'm sorry it got so confusing!

Regards,

Martijn
 


From seb@jamkit.com  Wed Feb 20 10:43:17 2002
From: seb@jamkit.com (seb bacon)
Date: 20 Feb 2002 10:43:17 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EUROPYTHON LOGO 2nd
In-Reply-To: <008701c1b9f8$056a11f0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>
References: <3C72D1BF.7A79535D@just-ad.de>
 <008701c1b9f8$056a11f0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <1014201798.8766.41.camel@bucharin>

On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 10:18, Tom Deprez wrote:
> Just wondering....
> 
> What would it give if the python made a circle and the stars were on the
> body of the snake.
> 
> Just an idea, don't know if it would be nice.

+2 I like that idea too :-)



From tom.deprez@village.uunet.be  Wed Feb 20 10:57:49 2002
From: tom.deprez@village.uunet.be (Tom Deprez)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 11:57:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
References: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl> <02ac01c1b9a3$6fcf02d0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter> <3C7355E2.3040402@123piano.com> <200202201026.ATO63155@mirapoint2.brutele.be>
Message-ID: <00b501c1b9fd$e4d9ada0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>

Hi Olivier,

>If you want to go faster and If you like the http://europython.p3b.org
layout. I can give access to Tom for example or export the whole site. I'm
>not talking about colors or logos here but the general layout like tables
and the place of things on the page.
>The site is nearly exactly following the conventions that Tom talked about
a few lines above. With the exception that I'm not using structured text.

Yes, it would be nice to snip some code :-)
But, If I read correctly, you are using DTML? I'm thinking on using ZPT and
STX (since all the wiki content is written in STX), but this doesn't mean we
can't use code from the P3B site.

>  From that, we can define some navigational methods, add search,
breadcrumbs, etc...
> I have top and bottom breadcrumbs, a print method but no search
capabilities.
> I also have a simple css style sheet.

Nice, If we could use this one, then we can easily update the site when the
final CSS is ready

>Each page (Folder) can have two or three (default) columns. It depends on a
Folder attibute.
>Each navigation table (on the left) is a DTML method which lies in a Folder
called 'navig'. And each news table (on the right) is an instance of a
>product of our own. The product is very beta but a DTML method can do the
same. A News Entry has some attibutes: an author, a expiration date, an
>expired boolean, a news summary, a creation date and a format (html or
structured text). A news entry can also be 'not visible', 'visible if
>authenticated' (for testing) or 'validated'.

>Just tell me if you are interested.

We are :-)

Tom.

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P3B : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
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From dario@ita.chalmers.se  Wed Feb 20 11:11:11 2002
From: dario@ita.chalmers.se (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:11:11 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython]  BudgetTeam: Europython Conf Organisation
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEIBDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <3C7360BF.7B04AD95@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <01cc01c1b9ff$4dff4aa0$4bdf1081@ita.chalmers.se>

> >
> > Hmm... to summarize the replies:
> >
> > I think we all agree that the Conference Organisation has to be some
sort of
> > non-profit-society.
>
> While it's desirable to form a non-profit organization, we
> don't have the time for this. In order to become non-profit, one
> usually has to go through a few hoops to get the official
> status.

Not in Sweden. IIRC, as soon as you have a constituent meeting , a signed
excerp (sp?) of the protocol describing how the board was elected (and wh=
o
they are) and a signed document describing who are on the board and who a=
re
the legal representatives of the association you are official. What takes
time is to get the bank account (about 1 day i think). A postgirot accoun=
t
takes a few more days.

>
> More important than the non-profit status is IMHO that the
> people who will run the conference are legal part of the
> association and that the aim of that organization is
> somehow set in stone with a focus on the conference.

The associations by-laws guarnatee this. An important part of this in Swe=
den
is that membership be voluntary.

Now, if there are *other* reasons for this association to be based in a
particular contry, then those reasons should be put forth and explained.
Else, does it matter? I say choose the one with least adminstrative
buerocracy.

/dario

- --------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K=E4sten     Systems Developer  Chalmers Univ. of Technology
dario@ita.chalmers.se  ICQ will yield no hits    IT Systems & Services




From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 20 11:26:29 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:26:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Forming a Europython Conference Organization
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEIBDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <3C7360BF.7B04AD95@lemburg.com> <01cc01c1b9ff$4dff4aa0$4bdf1081@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <3C7387E5.2DCC3135@lemburg.com>

Dario Lopez-K=E4sten wrote:
>=20
> > >
> > > Hmm... to summarize the replies:
> > >
> > > I think we all agree that the Conference Organisation has to be som=
e
> sort of
> > > non-profit-society.
> >
> > While it's desirable to form a non-profit organization, we
> > don't have the time for this. In order to become non-profit, one
> > usually has to go through a few hoops to get the official
> > status.
>=20
> Not in Sweden. IIRC, as soon as you have a constituent meeting , a sign=
ed
> excerp (sp?) of the protocol describing how the board was elected (and =
who
> they are) and a signed document describing who are on the board and who=
 are
> the legal representatives of the association you are official. What tak=
es
> time is to get the bank account (about 1 day i think). A postgirot acco=
unt
> takes a few more days.

In Germany this is similiar. The only extra steps involved
are:

1. Get a notary to validate the signature on the document
2. Go to the local registry and get the association registered
3. Send the documents to the IRS for approval

Ideally, step 3 ought to be done as step 0. as well to
make sure that you get non-profit status.

So much for the theory. I've never gone through this process,
so it's not clear to me how long it would take (probably
2 months as I know our government authorities...).
=20
> >
> > More important than the non-profit status is IMHO that the
> > people who will run the conference are legal part of the
> > association and that the aim of that organization is
> > somehow set in stone with a focus on the conference.
>=20
> The associations by-laws guarnatee this. An important part of this in S=
weden
> is that membership be voluntary.
>=20
> Now, if there are *other* reasons for this association to be based in a
> particular contry, then those reasons should be put forth and explained.
> Else, does it matter? I say choose the one with least adminstrative
> buerocracy.

+1.

Who's going to participate in such an association ?=20

I can volunteer as member, but not for the board since I=20
don't have enough time for that.

--=20
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de  Wed Feb 20 11:20:36 2002
From: dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de (dagmar kolb de)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:20:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EUROPYTHON LOGO 2nd
References: <3C72D1BF.7A79535D@just-ad.de>
 <008701c1b9f8$056a11f0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter> <1014201798.8766.41.camel@bucharin>
Message-ID: <3C738684.8B6262FD@just-ad.de>

Hi Seb, hi Tom, hi everybody

thanks for your feedback :-)) 

On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 10:18, Tom Deprez wrote:
> Just wondering....
> 
> What would it give if the python made a circle and the stars were on the
> body of the snake.
> 
> Just an idea, don't know if it would be nice.

+2 I like that idea too :-)

But I do not agree to this idea for following reasons: 

There are two separate elements of the logo with separate importance.
The python and the euro stars. Mixing both would cause irritation und
misunderstandings. 
The stars have to build a circle themselves to be recognized as the
europa symbol.
The snake stands for python itself. It is the main element and can be
used for several purposes. 

Both elements are combined for the event europython conference only in
this case! If there was e.g. a national conference, there would be  the
german flag instead of the stars... If you want to use the logo for
python only, it stands alone without the euro stars. Combined with
another text possibly... 

To keep the elements separate gives various ways of using. Creating a
logo means to have a basic element. Here: the snake. For each purpose
other elements are added, if necessary. The snake will be recognised as
a symbol for python in every case. Means: logo->brand->corporate
identity. That is what we want, don´t we?

cu
dago
--
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Grafik · Photographie · PR · Webdesign
Dipl.-Designerin Dagmar Kolb · mobil 0170.86 57 346
mailto dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de · http://www.just-ad.de


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Wed Feb 20 12:09:00 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:09:00 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] European Python Conference Organisation
In-Reply-To: <20020219234356.H87159@math.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202201308390.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> > The link (105 German pages)
> > http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/library/lib-entrepreneurship/doc/geie/h
> > andbkde.pdf
> 
> Also available in french en english (handbkfr.pdf, handbken.pdf).

Read all about it in the wiki on the LegalBody page.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

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From tim@2wave.net  Wed Feb 20 13:14:44 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 13:14:44 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Binaries on the newsgroup
Message-ID: <20020220131444.93755.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>

I think that we should avoid posting binaries to the
newsgroup. Can we provide an upload directory for them
and reference the file in a posting?

Tim

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From mvm@brutele.be  Wed Feb 20 13:26:41 2002
From: mvm@brutele.be (vincent)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:26:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
Message-ID: <005b01c1ba12$3c9a08f0$3aff44d4@gfx>

C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties.

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This a model for the logo...

Maybe you prefer this way ?


Regards,

Vincent.

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From xavier@defrang.com  Wed Feb 20 13:39:36 2002
From: xavier@defrang.com (Xavier Defrang)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:39:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
References: <005b01c1ba12$3c9a08f0$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <3C73A718.FFD76258@defrang.com>

Hi all,

I actually wonder why are you guys trying to reinvent the wheel when
there's already a nearly official "Python" text logo used on the
python.org 
website and a really eye-candy Python character provided as an icon in
the 
Python distribution... I guess that most Python users are already used
to 
this visual identity.

You (all designers working on logos) could probably leverage these known
visual items and combine them with the european flag?

Regards,

X.
-----
blogging & stuff, daily updates >> http://defrang.com


From lac@strakt.com  Wed Feb 20 13:35:45 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:35:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EUROPYTHON LOGO 2nd
In-Reply-To: Message from dagmar kolb de <dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de>
 of "Wed, 20 Feb 2002 12:20:36 +0100." <3C738684.8B6262FD@just-ad.de>
References: <3C72D1BF.7A79535D@just-ad.de> <008701c1b9f8$056a11f0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter> <1014201798.8766.41.camel@bucharin>  <3C738684.8B6262FD@just-ad.de>
Message-ID: <200202201335.g1KDZkGo018966@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

I don't recall ever be=EDng asked for input as to what was to go INTO
the logo.  This is probably too late, but for the record: I would
rather no snakes on it at all.  I especially do  not want a
cartoonish-snake.  My basic position is that if there is one person
on the planet who can look at the python logo and say 'oooh, that's
cute' then my job of marketting is _harder_ not _easier_.  The image
I want to get across is 'serious professional language suitable for
extremely hard professional work'.  This icon is not helping. It is
too friendly, colloquial, and social for my purposes.  This is the
icon for 'python is fun, and we are silly folk who like fun and puns'.
It is hard to raise money on that platform.

Laura Creighton



From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 20 13:47:34 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:47:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Forming a Europython Conference Organization
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEIBDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <3C7360BF.7B04AD95@lemburg.com> <01cc01c1b9ff$4dff4aa0$4bdf1081@ita.chalmers.se> <3C7387E5.2DCC3135@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <3C73A8F6.7E0F1490@lemburg.com>

Let's sum up what the requirements are:

* We need the legal entity ASAP (within one month !)

* If possible, it should be a non-profit organization

  We may have to be careful here, since the Charleroi
  city is funding part of the venue, so it may require
  that the organization has the non-profit status in
  Belgium (I'm not sure whether they could give money
  or other goods to an e.g. German or Swedish non-profit
  org).

  The bylaws will have to be adapted accordingly.

* We'll need a membership structure of the organization.

  I'd suggest to make Martijn Faassen the president
  form the board out of the various people responsible
  for important tasks w/r the conference (budget, local
  authorities, legal counsil, web-site, etc.).
  All other conference team members should be permissable
  as members.

* The org will have to setup a bank account quickly,
  so that a budget can be planned and managed. Sources
  of income are:
  - attendence fees
  - sponsor fees
  - exhibitor fees
  - donations

Anything else ?

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 20 13:49:05 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:49:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EUROPYTHON LOGO 2nd
References: <3C72D1BF.7A79535D@just-ad.de> <008701c1b9f8$056a11f0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter> <1014201798.8766.41.camel@bucharin>  <3C738684.8B6262FD@just-ad.de> <200202201335.g1KDZkGo018966@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <3C73A951.AFB01A12@lemburg.com>

Can't we worry about the icon an web-site *after* having at least
decided on the basic things, like forming an organization, getting
the bylaws right and setting up a management structure with dedicated
tasks ?!

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From marc@msys.ch  Wed Feb 20 13:52:27 2002
From: marc@msys.ch (Marc Balmer)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 14:52:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
In-Reply-To: <3C73A718.FFD76258@defrang.com>
Message-ID: <13A6A49E-2609-11D6-8F54-003065F9345A@msys.ch>

> You (all designers working on logos) could probably leverage these known
> visual items and combine them with the european flag?

For example that the logo as it is on www.python.org an replace the
"o" with the Europe stars.  But some blue on it somwhere, maybe blue
instead of black.

- mb

--
Marc Balmer, Micro Systems, Kannenfeldstrasse 32, CH-4056 Basel
Tel +41 61 383 05 10, Fax +41 61 383 05 12, http://www.msys.ch/



From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Wed Feb 20 14:16:45 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:16:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
References: <005b01c1ba12$3c9a08f0$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <004801c1ba1a$0c72f120$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>

Hey Vincent, 

This is a GREAT Logo!!!
I like it very much!

Tom.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "vincent" <mvm@brutele.be>
To: "Euro Python" <europython@python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:26 PM
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???


> This a model for the logo...
> 
> Maybe you prefer this way ?
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Vincent.
> 




From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Wed Feb 20 14:22:32 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:22:32 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EUROPYTHON LOGO 2nd
References: <3C72D1BF.7A79535D@just-ad.de> <008701c1b9f8$056a11f0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter> <1014201798.8766.41.camel@bucharin> <3C738684.8B6262FD@just-ad.de> <200202201335.g1KDZkGo018966@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <3C73A951.AFB01A12@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <004901c1ba1a$0fa174c0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>

> Can't we worry about the icon an web-site *after* having at least decided
on the basic things, like forming an organization, getting
> the bylaws right and setting up a management structure with dedicated
tasks ?!

This would perhaps be the best approach, but the longer we wait, the shorter
time we'll have to create the website.
The website is already announced on several other pages, so we need to do
something.
Not everybody has the experience to work on the rights, organisation
structure etc, so these people could already do some things on the web.
This will only make the web development faster at the end.


Tom.

>
> --
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
> ______________________________________________________________________
> Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
> Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From mvm@brutele.be  Wed Feb 20 14:23:55 2002
From: mvm@brutele.be (vincent)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:23:55 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
References: <13A6A49E-2609-11D6-8F54-003065F9345A@msys.ch>
Message-ID: <001c01c1ba1a$3be51730$3aff44d4@gfx>

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Marc Balmer" <marc@msys.ch>
To: "Xavier Defrang" <xavier@defrang.com>
Cc: <europython@python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???


> > You (all designers working on logos) could probably leverage these known
> > visual items and combine them with the european flag?
>
> For example that the logo as it is on www.python.org an replace the
> "o" with the Europe stars.  But some blue on it somwhere, maybe blue
> instead of black.
>
> - mb
>
> --
> Marc Balmer, Micro Systems, Kannenfeldstrasse 32, CH-4056 Basel
> Tel +41 61 383 05 10, Fax +41 61 383 05 12, http://www.msys.ch/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

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From marc@msys.ch  Wed Feb 20 14:41:10 2002
From: marc@msys.ch (Marc Balmer)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:41:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
In-Reply-To: <001c01c1ba1a$3be51730$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <E14D963D-260F-11D6-8F54-003065F9345A@msys.ch>

Am Mittwoch den, 20. Februar 2002, um 15:23, schrieb vincent:

> Like this ???
>
Oh, god, no....   there should only be stars around the letter "o"...
This looks like christmas time ;-)

- mb



From xavier@defrang.com  Wed Feb 20 14:41:04 2002
From: xavier@defrang.com (Xavier Defrang)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:41:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
References: <13A6A49E-2609-11D6-8F54-003065F9345A@msys.ch> <001c01c1ba1a$3be51730$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <3C73B580.4848C2BB@defrang.com>

vincent wrote:

> 
> Like this ???
> 

The Blue on yellow is barely readable, yellow on blue would be better
imho.
I woudln't use blue stars either since they're not part of the usual
european
symbolism...

But btw does this conference really need a logo?!?

Laura is right when she says that the conference needs a visual identity
really
appealing for both suits and hardcore techies.  I guess that plain text
will do
it for both. :)

As MAL stated, too much effort shoudln't be made about the form until
some really
important administrive issues are overcome... I wish I could help about
this but
it's definetly not my field... 

Regards,

X.
-----
blogging & stuff, daily updates >> http://defrang.com


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Wed Feb 20 14:48:30 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:48:30 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
In-Reply-To: <005b01c1ba12$3c9a08f0$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202201547400.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> This a model for the logo... Maybe you prefer this way ?

I like that one :-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Wed Feb 20 14:54:39 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 15:54:39 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
In-Reply-To: <001c01c1ba1a$3be51730$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202201552040.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Like this ???

I prefered the other one, but I also understand Laura's concerns. Maybe we
could have both : a "serious" logo for the website in order not to scare 
suits and a cool one for t-shirts and the organisers' website/wiki.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From obenassy@free.fr  Wed Feb 20 15:16:28 2002
From: obenassy@free.fr (Odile =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E9nassy?=)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:16:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202201552040.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <3C73BDCC.5CA3CAA1@free.fr>

Nicolas Chauvat a =E9crit :
> =

> > Like this ???
> =

> I prefered the other one, but I also understand Laura's concerns. Maybe=
 we
> could have both : a "serious" logo for the website in order not to scar=
e
> suits

1) we don't need "suits" that much
2) they get used to that "hackers" style thes days, don't you think ?

I like =

    logo_epc2002.gif
it is serious enough

> and a cool one for t-shirts and the organisers' website/wiki.
> =

> --
> Nicolas Chauvat
> =

> http://www.logilab.com - "Mais o=F9 est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Pari=
s (France)
> =

> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

-- =

Odile B=E9nassy                  http://obenassy.free.fr/
Journ=E9es du Logiciel Libre dans l'Education     =

http://www.libresoftware-educ.org


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Wed Feb 20 15:07:13 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:07:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
References: <13A6A49E-2609-11D6-8F54-003065F9345A@msys.ch> <001c01c1ba1a$3be51730$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <007601c1ba21$4139aaf0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>

no, don't like this one.

----- Original Message -----
From: "vincent" <mvm@brutele.be>
To: "Euro Python" <europython@python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???


> Like this ???
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Marc Balmer" <marc@msys.ch>
> To: "Xavier Defrang" <xavier@defrang.com>
> Cc: <europython@python.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 2:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
>
>
> > > You (all designers working on logos) could probably leverage these
known
> > > visual items and combine them with the european flag?
> >
> > For example that the logo as it is on www.python.org an replace the
> > "o" with the Europe stars.  But some blue on it somwhere, maybe blue
> > instead of black.
> >
> > - mb
> >
> > --
> > Marc Balmer, Micro Systems, Kannenfeldstrasse 32, CH-4056 Basel
> > Tel +41 61 383 05 10, Fax +41 61 383 05 12, http://www.msys.ch/
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > EuroPython mailing list
> > EuroPython@python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>




From mvm@brutele.be  Wed Feb 20 15:21:48 2002
From: mvm@brutele.be (vincent)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:21:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Relook the logo
Message-ID: <004601c1ba22$51527f60$3aff44d4@gfx>

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Xavier Defrang wrote :

>The Blue on yellow is barely readable, yellow on blue would be better


Here the reverse version !!!


Regards,
Vincent.

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From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Wed Feb 20 15:32:18 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:32:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Website
Message-ID: <007701c1ba23$c9a91e50$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>

Hi all,

For those who want to know, I changed the internals of the website a little
bit. Ie, I transformed it to use ZPT macros/slots.
The only available links at the moment are the left links. These are auto
generated from the folders (which have visible set to true) in the root of
the ZODB

As an example to add content, you can look at the 'place' folder.
ie. the STX text is placed in a dtml-method called 'content'.
With the help of the getContentSTX script this is included in the web-page.
We could provide other scripts, so that other formats can be used as well.

This is just a mockup, so destroy/kill/change it if you feel to do so :-).

Regards, Tom.




From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Wed Feb 20 15:30:48 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:30:48 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
In-Reply-To: <3C73BDCC.5CA3CAA1@free.fr>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202201621290.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> 1) we don't need "suits" that much

I do to make a living. They are the ones who buy stuff and I am running a
Python-maniac company. I would very much like to meet with lots of them
there as well as meeting with fellow python hackers.

> 2) they get used to that "hackers" style thes days, don't you think ?

Nope. I think Laura is right here. Good suits are serious suits and prefer
to do business with serious-looking people. When it fails, you get fired
less easily if you hired someone that "obviously looked serious". Ever
heard of M$ ?

Please note that I don't have anything against suits: running a company
even makes me wear suits :-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Wed Feb 20 15:33:56 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:33:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Relook the logo
References: <004601c1ba22$51527f60$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <008f01c1ba24$041f1760$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>

personal opinion: don't like this either.
The first one you posted today was much better and I liked it a lot.

Regards, Tom.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "vincent" <mvm@brutele.be>
To: "Euro Python" <europython@python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:21 PM
Subject: [EuroPython] Relook the logo


> Xavier Defrang wrote :
> 
> >The Blue on yellow is barely readable, yellow on blue would be better
> 
> 
> Here the reverse version !!!
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Vincent.
> 




From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 20 15:40:55 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:40:55 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Track organization
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191538000.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <3C726011.F110BE02@lemburg.com> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191538000.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020220154055.GA3990@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> > Conditions for invited speakers depend on the budget. I hope that
> > we'll be able to give them free admission, however, not even that is
> > certain.
> 
> I agree that there is not budget figures yet, but it seems to me that free
> admission for the speakers is the least we could do for them.

Yes, agreed that this should be an explicit aim. I think we can manage
that, it's just we can't make any commitment to anything involving
money before we have a sound budget in the first place. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From seb@jamkit.com  Wed Feb 20 15:44:56 2002
From: seb@jamkit.com (seb bacon)
Date: 20 Feb 2002 15:44:56 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Relook the logo
In-Reply-To: <008f01c1ba24$041f1760$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>
References: <004601c1ba22$51527f60$3aff44d4@gfx>
 <008f01c1ba24$041f1760$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <1014219902.8964.550.camel@bucharin>

And mine: I like the concept because it's simple, but there's too many
stars, so I can't read it.  Could it be done with only the 'o' as yellow
stars and everything else the same as the standard logo?

w.r.t  worrying about design too early... what is 'too early?' most of
the people who are interested in design are not interested in setting up
a bank account or a company: therefore there is no inefficiency in doing
both at the same time, surely?

the only danger is too much backwards-and-forwards, because the problem
with design is that everyone has an opinion...hmm, reminds me of like
OSS licenses or Conference titles :-P


On Wed, 2002-02-20 at 15:33, Tom Deprez wrote:
> personal opinion: don't like this either.
> The first one you posted today was much better and I liked it a lot.
> 
> Regards, Tom.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "vincent" <mvm@brutele.be>
> To: "Euro Python" <europython@python.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2002 4:21 PM
> Subject: [EuroPython] Relook the logo
> 
> 
> > Xavier Defrang wrote :
> > 
> > >The Blue on yellow is barely readable, yellow on blue would be better
> > 
> > 
> > Here the reverse version !!!
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Vincent.
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 20 15:47:39 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:47:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: [EuroPython] I asked Jacob Hall?n how long it would take to make a non profit society in Sweden.
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191540470.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <20020219143343.GB31290@vet.uu.nl> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191540470.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020220154739.GB3990@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> > That said, one main question remains as to what we're actually founding:
> > 
> >   * an organization dedicated to the organization of EuroPython
> >     *conferences*
> > 
> >   * a more general organization about Python in Europe that happens to
> >     also organize conferences; i.e. a EuroPython Foundation. 
> > 
> > So what do people think is best?
> 
> KISS + "Overdesign is bad" = let's go for the simplest one, we'll get into
> the trouble of upgrading it later if need arises :-)

I'd interpret this as trying for the more general European Python
organization first, and later on if there's sufficient risk creating other
organizations particularly in charge of organizing and taking the risk
for the conferences. So the simplest solution would simply be a 
EuroPython Foundation, sister organization to the Zope one.

Regards,

Martijn



From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 20 15:57:25 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 16:57:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202201552040.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C73BDCC.5CA3CAA1@free.fr>
Message-ID: <3C73C765.7026BFED@lemburg.com>

Odile B=E9nassy wrote:
>=20
> 1) we don't need "suits" that much

Yes we do.=20

IMHO, this is the most important audience to try to
reach. Python has already gone a long way in terms of reaching
out to developers, scientists and other non-suit folks. For
world-domination, we'll need more backup from decision
makers.

> 2) they get used to that "hackers" style thes days, don't you think ?

Most certainly not.

--=20
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 20 16:05:16 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:05:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Binaries on the newsgroup
In-Reply-To: <20020220131444.93755.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20020220131444.93755.qmail@web14508.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20020220160516.GC3990@vet.uu.nl>

Tim Couper wrote:
> I think that we should avoid posting binaries to the
> newsgroup. Can we provide an upload directory for them
> and reference the file in a posting?

That's a good idea. It's up to the web team to figure this out..

Thus far mailman keeps stopping mails with 40k or larger, and I just
keep approving them as to keep things going, but eventually I could
start rejecting them. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 20 16:10:04 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:10:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: [EuroPython] I asked Jacob Hall?n how long it would
 take to make a non profit society in Sweden.
References: <20020219143343.GB31290@vet.uu.nl> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202191540470.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <20020220154739.GB3990@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C73CA5C.49262255@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> > > That said, one main question remains as to what we're actually founding:
> > >
> > >   * an organization dedicated to the organization of EuroPython
> > >     *conferences*
> > >
> > >   * a more general organization about Python in Europe that happens to
> > >     also organize conferences; i.e. a EuroPython Foundation.
> > >
> > > So what do people think is best?
> >
> > KISS + "Overdesign is bad" = let's go for the simplest one, we'll get into
> > the trouble of upgrading it later if need arises :-)
> 
> I'd interpret this as trying for the more general European Python
> organization first, and later on if there's sufficient risk creating other
> organizations particularly in charge of organizing and taking the risk
> for the conferences. So the simplest solution would simply be a
> EuroPython Foundation, sister organization to the Zope one.

Huh ? I think you've got this backwards... simple == organization
dedicated to this conference; complex == European PSF (that's 
something for the US-based PSF to setup and worry about, 
though). See also my other mail on teh subject.

Again, I believe for the sake of getting the city of Charleroi 
into the boat, we'll have to have a Belgium organization with 
non-profit status. So somebody from Belgium should seriously
start looking into this... please !

Gee, why is this so complicated ?

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From marc@msys.ch  Wed Feb 20 16:21:53 2002
From: marc@msys.ch (Marc Balmer)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:21:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
In-Reply-To: <3C73C765.7026BFED@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <F37C731A-261D-11D6-8F54-003065F9345A@msys.ch>

Am Mittwoch den, 20. Februar 2002, um 16:57, schrieb M.-A. Lemburg:

> Odile B=E9nassy wrote:
>>
>> 1) we don't need "suits" that much
>
> Yes we do.
>
>
>> 2) they get used to that "hackers" style thes days, don't you think ?
>
> Most certainly not.
>

We use Python almost only for "serious business" in larger firms and
governemental agencies - besides from some lectures.

Those customers will definitely not take for serious a hacker style guy
wearing a Python cap and a cool T-shirt, whatsoever hes/her knowledge
may be.  Switzerland is conservative.  To do business and to be taken
for serious, you wear a suit.  Stupid, but so it is.  And I am talking=20=

about
business ($$$), not some freaky, underpaid short time project.

And I hope thats a focus of EuroPython as well.

- mb

--
Marc Balmer, Micro Systems, Kannenfeldstrasse 32, CH-4056 Basel
Tel +41 61 383 05 10, Fax +41 61 383 05 12, http://www.msys.ch/



From obenassy@free.fr  Wed Feb 20 16:26:23 2002
From: obenassy@free.fr (Odile =?iso-8859-1?Q?B=E9nassy?=)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:26:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202201621290.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <3C73CE2F.4B9BA4FC@free.fr>

Nicolas Chauvat a =E9crit :
> =

> > 1) we don't need "suits" that much
> =

> I do to make a living. =


I know
Me too
I said "that much"
I think this conference is *primarily* intended as a programmers meeting

>They are the ones who buy stuff and I am running a
> Python-maniac company. I would very much like to meet with lots of them=

> there as well as meeting with fellow python hackers.
> =

> > 2) they get used to that "hackers" style thes days, don't you think ?=

> =

> Nope. I think Laura is right here. Good suits are serious suits and pre=
fer
> to do business with serious-looking people.

yes and no
For a long time they know what serious programmers look like
they do not expect serious programmers to look like ex-Harvard MBA
students


-- =

Odile B=E9nassy                  http://obenassy.free.fr/
Journ=E9es du Logiciel Libre dans l'Education     =

http://www.libresoftware-educ.org


From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 20 16:28:04 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 17:28:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
References: <F37C731A-261D-11D6-8F54-003065F9345A@msys.ch>
Message-ID: <3C73CE94.660BC443@lemburg.com>

Marc Balmer wrote:
>=20
> Am Mittwoch den, 20. Februar 2002, um 16:57, schrieb M.-A. Lemburg:
>=20
> > Odile B=E9nassy wrote:
> >>
> >> 2) they get used to that "hackers" style thes days, don't you think =
?
> >
> > Most certainly not.
> >
>=20
> We use Python almost only for "serious business" in larger firms and
> governemental agencies - besides from some lectures.
>=20
> Those customers will definitely not take for serious a hacker style guy
> wearing a Python cap and a cool T-shirt, whatsoever hes/her knowledge
> may be.  Switzerland is conservative.  To do business and to be taken
> for serious, you wear a suit.  Stupid, but so it is.  And I am talking
> about
> business ($$$), not some freaky, underpaid short time project.
>=20
> And I hope thats a focus of EuroPython as well.

I hope so too... it will definitely be the focus for the
business track.

--=20
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From oli@aragne.com  Wed Feb 20 18:47:41 2002
From: oli@aragne.com (Olivier Laurent)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 19:47:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
In-Reply-To: <00b501c1b9fd$e4d9ada0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>
References: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl> <200202201026.ATO63155@mirapoint2.brutele.be> <00b501c1b9fd$e4d9ada0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <200202201855.ATP30981@mirapoint2.brutele.be>

On Wednesday 20 February 2002 11:57, Tom Deprez wrote:
> >The site is nearly exactly following the conventions that Tom talked about
> a few lines above. With the exception that I'm not using structured text.

I talked about Tom but it was Philippe Jadin. Sorry for that.


> Yes, it would be nice to snip some code :-)
> But, If I read correctly, you are using DTML? I'm thinking on using ZPT and
> STX (since all the wiki content is written in STX), but this doesn't mean
> we can't use code from the P3B site.

Using STX is not a problem. But for ZPT there will probably be a lot of code 
rewriting since everything is formated using DTML. But if there is a ZPT 
specialist that is also good at DTML, everything is possible. 

> > I also have a simple css style sheet.
> Nice, If we could use this one, then we can easily update the site when the
> final CSS is ready

I create an account for you (Tom) on our new server and I email you (on your 
other account) the password. Change it as soon as you can.

-- 
Olivier Laurent.
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Wed Feb 20 19:15:47 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:15:47 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
In-Reply-To: <3C73CE94.660BC443@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPGEJBDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

> > We use Python almost only for "serious business" in larger firms and
> > governemental agencies - besides from some lectures.
> > 
> > Those customers will definitely not take for serious a hacker style guy
> > wearing a Python cap and a cool T-shirt, whatsoever hes/her knowledge
> > may be.  Switzerland is conservative.  To do business and to be taken
> > for serious, you wear a suit.  Stupid, but so it is.  And I am talking
> > about
> > business ($$$), not some freaky, underpaid short time project.
> > 
> > And I hope thats a focus of EuroPython as well.
> 
> I hope so too... it will definitely be the focus for the
> business track.

Me too... 

Andrew






From all@123piano.com  Wed Feb 20 19:35:40 2002
From: all@123piano.com (Philippe Jadin)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:35:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
References: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl> <021e01c1b8d7$50fd46e0$368c84d5@skullsplitter> <20020219142859.GA31290@vet.uu.nl> <02ac01c1b9a3$6fcf02d0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter> <3C7355E2.3040402@123piano.com> <20020220103210.GB2672@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C73FA8C.1070303@123piano.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:

>[private mail]
>
>Philippe Jadin wrote:
>[snip battle plan]
>
>>Does it sounds like a good battleplan ?
>>
>
>Yes! I can quibble on some technical details, but I won't as I'll have time
>enough later.
>
>Want to be in charge of the web design team? :)
>
I'd be very happy to be in charge of this, altough maybe others are 
interested as well?

If noone else is interested, "let me know", I'll be your man :) If 
someone else is interested, I guess I can help as well.

>Regards,
>
>Martijn
>

Philippe


btw, could I have an account on the current site? (username 'philippe' 
(for example); if not taken), you can mail me a password at this email. 
Thanks :)






From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Wed Feb 20 19:54:39 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:54:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Team: Association (EEIG / EWIV) Links
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEJCDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi,

I was browsing the web a bit after EEIG (english name) (EWIV german name):

I found:

In a way similar to us, http://www.eurofilmfest.org is a EEIG organisation
for coordination of film festivals. Similar because they coordinate/organize
something which is a alike a conference.

I found a clear description about "non profit" and EEIG under
http://www.investinspain.org/jointventures.htm

It says: a EEIG is a non-profit organisation of profit-making members.

But, the definition of what "profit-makíng" means is defined by the EU like:

>The concept of “profit-making” is interpreted more broadly in the Treaty
than in some national laws.
>The concept is described in the Convention on the Mutual Recognition of
Companies and Legal Persons
>signed in Brussels on 29 February 1968 as an “economic activity normally
carried on in return for
>payment”.

>(cut & paste out of the 105 pages document)

Alternativly, read: http://www.formaco.gi/eeig.htm

(cut & paste)

>Who May Be A Member Of An EEIG?
>The rules of membership of the EEIG are set out in Article 4 of the EU
Regulation establishing EEIGs. The >Regulations aim to make membership of an
EEIG open to as many people and organisations as possible within >the
Community, whether or not they are a company. The main requirement is that
each potential member >should have been engaged in an "economic activity" in
the EU prior to becoming a member of the EEIG.


Also... http://www.companies-house.gov.uk/ (seek after EEIG) you'll find the
text:

1. What is an EEIG?

The EEIG is a form of association between companies or other legal bodies,
firms or individuals from different EU countries who need to operate
together across national frontiers. It carries out particular tasks for its
member-owners and is quite separate from its owners' businesses. Its aim is
to facilitate or develop the economic activities of its members.

An EEIG may be set up in any one of the Member States, and operate in any
part of the EU. It can also enter into arrangements with organisations
outside the EU, although these organisations cannot themselves become
members of an EEIG.

2. What can an EEIG do?

An EEIG's activities must relate to the economic activity of its members but
must be ancillary to them. The concept of 'economic activity' can be
interpreted very widely. For example, universities and research institutes
may participate in an EEIG. The creation of an EEIG between people in the
professions (for example, solicitors) is also permitted. However,
professional people will need to consider whether or not participation in an
EEIG would be contrary to the rules of their profession. The Grouping may
not itself practice a profession - as this would replace the activities of
the members - but it may provide services for its members which relate to
their profession (for example, consultation on legal matters).

Apart from this, and the restrictions set out under question 3, the EEIG can
do whatever its members wish. For example, companies in the UK, Spain and
France might form an EEIG to carry out scientific research in an area of
common concern; or firms in Portugal and Scotland might use an EEIG to
create a joint marketing operation for a new range of products; or lawyers
in England, Denmark and Germany could join together to pool information.

Andrew



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Wed Feb 20 21:29:15 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:29:15 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Budget Team: Association (EEIG / EWIV) Links; Chareloi team
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEJCDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJDDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

As I said before, I think a EEIG would be probably the right type.

At least, whe are a bunch of people who make money with programming,
consultation, support or else. I doesn't matter if you are employed or
freelancer or company owner or a company itself. Maybe beeing a student can
be discussed, but even as a student you can work as a freelancer (as I did
it).

But: you don't have to prove that you are a "profit-making" person or
company; hey, even universities can be members of EEIG and, at least, no one
checks it.

The only drawback would be that we have to put EEIG into the name of the
conference organisation, hence the press releases are a bit misleading. But
we can correct this in a additional press release in the future.

To get local support from Belgium / Chareloi we need someone from
Belgium/Chareloi who is willing to be member at least and helps us with the
local registration... Anyone reading?

Andrew







From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Wed Feb 20 21:55:11 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 22:55:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] BudgetTeam: non-profit EEIG found, LegalBody wiki
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPCEJEDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi folks,

under http://www.choroi.org you'll find the much seeked non-profit-EEIG
based on non-profit organisations.

I'm currently working all info (EEIG and non-EEIG) into the LegalBody
wiki...

Andrew



From tim@2wave.net  Thu Feb 21 08:26:21 2002
From: tim@2wave.net (=?iso-8859-1?q?Tim=20Couper?=)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 08:26:21 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Suits v techies
In-Reply-To: <E16da7X-00028a-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20020221082621.47360.qmail@web14502.mail.yahoo.com>

In the earlier helpful discussions about "suits"
coming or not coming, whether the conference is or is
not a "techie" conference, I think it's important to
realise that these two classes (Suit, Techy) could be
considered the extremes of a continuum of people that
are involved in the process of deploying and using
Python in organisations. We kinda have

class ConferenceAttendee(Suit,Techy):
    def __init__(self,percentSuit,percentTechy):
        self.profile=percentSuit*Suit +     
                     percentTechy*Techy

Marc has made the point that Python has made some
inroads into areas where percentTechy is high, and the
momentum is on the rise there (maybe not as much as we
would like). Now, we may not yet be able to present a
conference where the percentSuit factor is high, but
to make inroads into that group, we need to be looking
to market the conference not only at those with a
strong technical interest, but also at those whose
percentSuit factor is, say, 50%. These are project
managers and other decision makers who block/unblock
the choice of tools to be deployed in organisations;
they need to be comfortable with the risks involved in
deploying this (to them) new technology.

While it is expected that such attendees may find the
Python and Business Track the most appropriate, the
overall style of the presentation of the whole
conference (logos, professionalism, etc) could have a
significant bearing on them even thinking about
coming. And, FWIW I think how we're getting on to date
is just fine overall in this regard. :-). Good work!

I just wanted to raise to a level of consciousness who
we may need to be targetting to get more Python
adopted .... without, of course, alienating those
technical gurus (ie those with a high percentTechy
profile) among the attendees, who would be the ones
who will have the jobs created by those with a more
equal Suit/Techy mix.

I think that it is broadly with this in mind,
implicitly, that we've had the discussions about the
type of logo and merchandising. I just thought I'd
make it more explicit. I'll go away now .... :-)

Tim

 



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From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Thu Feb 21 08:36:53 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 09:36:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release - where is it published - site for wiki created
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEJGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi press-folks,

I just created a page where we can note the sites where the press release
has been published:

http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/PressWhereIsItShown

Since I'm browsing much at the moment I'll note every site which has
officially published our press release.

Andrew



From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 21 09:01:50 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:01:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Suits v techies
References: <20020221082621.47360.qmail@web14502.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3C74B77E.27E1D9E2@lemburg.com>

[suite vs. techy and overalls]

Perhaps you should put up a wiki page for these sort of
good explanations. techy vs. suits is just one of the
three discussions we had so far:

1. Zope in the conference title (conclusion: yes, for this
   event)
2. Emphasizing FSF's "free" or not (conclusion: let's stay
   with "open source")
3. Overall conference appearance (no conclusion yet, but will 
   hopefully lean towards a professional mix of developers and 
   decision makers)

There's probably more coming down the road, so it would be
nice to have these discussions and conclusions set in stone 
somewhere.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 21 09:22:18 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 10:22:18 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Budget Team: Association (EEIG / EWIV) Links;
 Chareloi team
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJDDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <3C74BC4A.484E5232@lemburg.com>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> 
> As I said before, I think a EEIG would be probably the right type.
>
> At least, whe are a bunch of people who make money with programming,
> consultation, support or else. I doesn't matter if you are employed or
> freelancer or company owner or a company itself. Maybe beeing a student can
> be discussed, but even as a student you can work as a freelancer (as I did
> it).
> 
> But: you don't have to prove that you are a "profit-making" person or
> company; hey, even universities can be members of EEIG and, at least, no one
> checks it.

I think the real question is: who wants to become member of
whatever association or organization we come up with ?

So far, I haven't heard from anyone seriously looking into this,
so we might not even have a problem with membership.

> The only drawback would be that we have to put EEIG into the name of the
> conference organisation, hence the press releases are a bit misleading. But
> we can correct this in a additional press release in the future.
> 
> To get local support from Belgium / Chareloi we need someone from
> Belgium/Chareloi who is willing to be member at least and helps us with the
> local registration... Anyone reading?

I think this is the most important part of it: if we lose the
CEME, we'll have an open air event :-/

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Thu Feb 21 11:40:11 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:40:11 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Team: Association (EEIG / EWIV) Links
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEJCDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202211236240.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> 1. What is an EEIG?
> 
> The EEIG is a form of association between companies or other legal bodies,
> firms or individuals from different EU countries who need to operate
> together across national frontiers. It carries out particular tasks for its
> member-owners and is quite separate from its owners' businesses. Its aim is
> to facilitate or develop the economic activities of its members.

In France this is called GIE (Groupement d'Intérêt Economique). EEIG
stands for European Economic Interest Group.

In France it's easy to create. I think a european one would be a nice
solution, as it would include both firms and individuals and be using
"european laws".

In which country is it easier to create it ?

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From all@123piano.com  Thu Feb 21 12:04:11 2002
From: all@123piano.com (Philippe Jadin)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:04:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Budget Team: Association (EEIG / EWIV) Links
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEJCDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <3C74E23B.5040700@123piano.com>

Andrew Smart wrote:

>Hi,
>
>I was browsing the web a bit after EEIG (english name) (EWIV german name):
>
>I found:
>
>In a way similar to us, http://www.eurofilmfest.org is a EEIG organisation
>for coordination of film festivals. Similar because they coordinate/organize
>something which is a alike a conference.
>
I asked my girlfriend about this (she studied "law" here in Belgium - 
isn't it nice ? :)

interesting background infos to read :

- 
http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/library/lib-social_economy/orgfd_en.pdf
- http://europa.eu.int/comm/governance/contributions/contrib_fheur_en.pdf

We guess that what is needed is an "association internationale de droit 
belge" roughly translated to "an international association specifically 
created in Belgium with belgian laws in mind" :

- http://www.ecla.org/fr/presentation/historique.htm


Looking at this :
http://194.7.188.126/justice/index_fr.htm

There is for example an association, called euroheat, which probably has 
the right legal form we could use...

/me wonders if it really helps

Philippe




From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Thu Feb 21 12:01:09 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:01:09 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Calling Web and Design teams
References: <20020218231710.GA28827@vet.uu.nl> <021e01c1b8d7$50fd46e0$368c84d5@skullsplitter> <20020219142859.GA31290@vet.uu.nl> <02ac01c1b9a3$6fcf02d0$8e8d84d5@skullsplitter> <3C7355E2.3040402@123piano.com> <20020220103210.GB2672@vet.uu.nl> <3C73FA8C.1070303@123piano.com>
Message-ID: <00eb01c1bacf$afceb240$c18c84d5@skullsplitter>

> >>Does it sounds like a good battleplan ?
> >>
> >
> >Yes! I can quibble on some technical details, but I won't as I'll have
time
> >enough later.
> >
> >Want to be in charge of the web design team? :)
> >
> I'd be very happy to be in charge of this, altough maybe others are
> interested as well?
>
> If noone else is interested, "let me know", I'll be your man :) If
> someone else is interested, I guess I can help as well.

I'm more interested in the technical part, but I'm willing to help on the
design too, since these mingle probably together.

> >Regards,
> >
> >Martijn
> >
>
> Philippe
>
>
> btw, could I have an account on the current site? (username 'philippe'
> (for example); if not taken), you can mail me a password at this email.
> Thanks :)
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Thu Feb 21 12:02:42 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:02:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] website
Message-ID: <00ec01c1bacf$b2e4cbe0$c18c84d5@skullsplitter>

Well,

Which content has to be added to the website?
I can easely do that rigth now. ie STX can easely be added. A small
framework is ready to add content.
So let me know which parts can be put on the website.

Tom




From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Thu Feb 21 12:13:07 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:13:07 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] French Press Release
In-Reply-To: <00eb01c1bacf$afceb240$c18c84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202211311230.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

Hey,

Could the person that translated the press release into french tell me
whether it is ready yet or not and what I could do to help ? I would like
to start sending it today...

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Thu Feb 21 12:13:25 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:13:25 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Budget Team: Association (EEIG / EWIV) Links
In-Reply-To: <3C74E23B.5040700@123piano.com>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEJKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

> Auftrag von Philippe Jadin
>Looking at this :
>http://194.7.188.126/justice/index_fr.htm

I cannot read french :(

>I asked my girlfriend about this (she studied "law" here in Belgium -
>isn't it nice ? :)

Hmm... can she does us a favor und tell you something about
non-profit-organisations (how to found them...) in Belgium?

And is the "international organisation with Belgium law in mind" the Belgium
equivalent to the EU EEIG?

>/me wonders if it really helps

Of course!

Andrew



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Thu Feb 21 12:16:05 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:16:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

Hi folks,

as you may have noticed there are some discussions about the way the
conference is institutionalized.

Since this concerns everyone in the EuroPython mailing list I would like to
know what YOUR opinion is...

This may a bit of short-notice, but the time is pressing. We have to found
something to be able to collect money and to get the things going.

What's your opinion?

You can look at the current knowledge status in the LegalBody wiki page.

Would YOU choose to be a member? Beeing member does not neccessaryly mean
you have to pay a membership fee (but I'm not saying that there will be NO
membership fee :-) - no one knows that till today...)

Are you willing to be a "functionaire", meaning playing some part of
"official role"? Apart from fame and some far-future treasures this does
mean some responsibility and maybe work.

Please answer in any case, I would even prefer a "I don't care, I don't
want" more than no answer.

And, to be a good example, YES I am willing to be a member (personally as
well with my company) and I am willing to do some work and to play
"functionaire" in whatever role as far my time-resources are enabling me to
do so...

Andrew



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Thu Feb 21 12:25:07 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:25:07 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202211324070.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Would YOU choose to be a member? Beeing member does not neccessaryly mean
> you have to pay a membership fee (but I'm not saying that there will be NO
> membership fee :-) - no one knows that till today...)
> 
> Are you willing to be a "functionaire", meaning playing some part of
> "official role"? Apart from fame and some far-future treasures this does
> mean some responsibility and maybe work.

Yes to both, either as myself or as Logilab (preferred).

You may add my name to the Wiki page you'll be opening soon to list
positive answers :-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From all@123piano.com  Thu Feb 21 12:31:47 2002
From: all@123piano.com (Philippe Jadin)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:31:47 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Budget Team: Association (EEIG / EWIV) Links
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPAEJKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <3C74E8B3.60505@123piano.com>

Andrew Smart wrote:

>>I asked my girlfriend about this (she studied "law" here in Belgium -
>>isn't it nice ? :)
>>
>
>Hmm... can she does us a favor und tell you something about
>non-profit-organisations (how to found them...) in Belgium?
>
I guess the best person to ask is someone from P3B, because they already 
made this (the differences between the theory and the real world are 
sometimes "huge"). In short think you need to publish "status" (a 
founding text) to the "moniteur" (a paper where a lot of legal things 
are published). she's not there atm, so I can't tell more.

We should really find someone who already made this kind of foundation 
(either a belgian nonprofit, even better a EU nonprofit), and ask him 
how hard it was / how many time it took...

>And is the "international organisation with Belgium law in mind" the Belgium
>equivalent to the EU EEIG?
>
I'll ask her :)

philippe

(but as we all know, everything EU related seems a bit hard to 
understand currently, so imvho we'll probably have to go for the local 
thingy first)

>
>>/me wonders if it really helps
>>
>
>Of course!
>
>Andrew
>
>
>





From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Thu Feb 21 12:40:01 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:40:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <01c001c1bad4$efaab620$c18c84d5@skullsplitter>

Hi,

> Would YOU choose to be a member? Beeing member does not neccessaryly mean
you have to pay a membership fee (but I'm not saying that there will be NO
membership fee :-) - no one knows that till today...)

Yes, I would become a member, depending of course (if there will be a
membership fee) on how much the fee will be.
At the moment I'm a paying member of EuroZope, so I don't know why I
shouldn't be one of EuroPython. Perhaps in the future, both organisations
can work together.

> Are you willing to be a "functionaire", meaning playing some part of
"official role"? Apart from fame and some far-future treasures this does
mean some responsibility and maybe work.

Euhm, yes, that's what I'm doing, not? At the moment of course only during
my free time... I've volunteerd and did some small bits on the website
already, I also volunteerd to read/order, etc the submitted papers. Of
course, I'm willing to do other jobs as well, if I'm sure I can handle them
and have time for them.
I also feel myself responsible for this, since I live in Belgium
(Bruxelles), about 50 km from Charlerloi, and I work for Aragne.... the
persons who made it possible to get the conference room for a very, very :-)
cheap price ....

Regards, Tom.

>
> Please answer in any case, I would even prefer a "I don't care, I don't
> want" more than no answer.
>
> And, to be a good example, YES I am willing to be a member (personally as
> well with my company) and I am willing to do some work and to play
> "functionaire" in whatever role as far my time-resources are enabling me
to
> do so...
>
> Andrew
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Thu Feb 21 12:51:05 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:51:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] LegalBody - PossibleMembers wiki page
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEJNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

So, there is know a wiki for this...

http://www.europython.org/draftwiki/PossibleMembers

Andrew




From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 21 13:03:02 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:03:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <3C74F006.EC1826B7@lemburg.com>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> 
> What's your opinion?
> 
> You can look at the current knowledge status in the LegalBody wiki page.

Great work !
 
> Would YOU choose to be a member? Beeing member does not neccessaryly mean
> you have to pay a membership fee (but I'm not saying that there will be NO
> membership fee :-) - no one knows that till today...)

Yes, either me personally or eGenix.com -- whichever suits the
.org better.
 
> Are you willing to be a "functionaire", meaning playing some part of
> "official role"? Apart from fame and some far-future treasures this does
> mean some responsibility and maybe work.

No... no time for that, sorry. I'll keep on getting the business
track set up together with Tim Couper.

Thanks for pushing this,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr  Thu Feb 21 13:26:24 2002
From: hinsen@cnrs-orleans.fr (Konrad Hinsen)
Date: 21 Feb 2002 14:26:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <m34rkb3r0f.fsf@chinon.cnrs-orleans.fr>

"Andrew Smart" <Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> writes:

> Since this concerns everyone in the EuroPython mailing list I would like to
> know what YOUR opinion is...

In my experience "opinions" are not very useful about legal matters.
Given that none of us is a lawyer, we should probably pick the "least
surprise" solution, i.e. the simplest one, whatever that is.

> Would YOU choose to be a member? Beeing member does not neccessaryly mean

That depends on the form of organisation. In principle yes, but only
if it doesn't take more than ten minutes to read and understand the
precise legal conditions. I have a strong allergy to bureaucracy of
all kinds.

> Are you willing to be a "functionaire", meaning playing some part of

In the foreseeable future I have no time for that, sorry.

Konrad.
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From gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de  Thu Feb 21 13:53:25 2002
From: gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de (Dinu Gherman)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:53:25 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] Putting PressReleases on europython.org?
Message-ID: <1014299605.3c74fbd56ad81@webmail.in-berlin.de>

Hi,

I just revisited the press release wiki pages and want to start
sending it away. Hence, the first immediate question is: could
we hook these few pages up somewhere directly on europython.org
(in all available languages) such that I can send email to jour-
nalists with some ASCII version of the text and point them to 
the "real" thing (which URLs etc.) but without inviting people 
to hack the precious wiki space?

Regards,

Dinu



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Thu Feb 21 12:43:35 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:43:35 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: [EuroPython] Budget Team: Association (EEIG / EWIV) Links
In-Reply-To: <3C74E8B3.60505@123piano.com>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEJMDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

> Philippe
> I guess the best person to ask is someone from P3B, because they already
> made this (the differences between the theory and the real world are
> sometimes "huge"). In short think you need to publish "status" (a
> founding text) to the "moniteur" (a paper where a lot of legal things
> are published). she's not there atm, so I can't tell more.

Ok, who know persons from P3B ???

> (but as we all know, everything EU related seems a bit hard to
> understand currently, so imvho we'll probably have to go for the local
> thingy first)

I have survived the papers about meta-classes in Python, so I'm not easily
givin up understanding the EU stuff... :-)

Andrew



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Thu Feb 21 12:48:10 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:48:10 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
In-Reply-To: <E10B7B56-26C6-11D6-8439-003065F9345A@msys.ch>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPEEJNDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

>MarcBalmer:
> Why not have the local university be the official organiser?  Creating
> some sort of foundation just for a conference seems a bit overkill to
> me, especially if it is based in Belgium only (what, if the conference
> takes part in Germany next year?).

We HAVE the support of the city of chareloi but I know nothing about the
university.

A EEIG structure can act europ-wide... Say a "Europe Python & Zope
Conference Organisation Association" with the aim of "supporting and
organizing europe-wide Python and Zope conferences..." Hey, I don't want to
start a discussion about the conference or association titel ("Python" or
"Python and Zope", "conferences" or "events"...). Just grab the idea behind
it, please...

> Well, the conference was not my idea, so I will support whatever
> you guys come out with.  I am surely willing to become a member
> and so is my company.  But then the context should me wider than
> just the conference, maybe a "European Python Developers Association".

No problem with that, we may also found something like that.
If we choose one of the "easy-going" types where no big paper-hassle is
necessary when we can easily found a DevAssociation... But the HAVE to get
the thing going...

> I can always act as your swiss representative, if that helps.

I added you to the PossibleMembers page, thanks for your support.

Andrew



From lac@strakt.com  Thu Feb 21 14:15:51 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:15:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:16:05 +0100."
 <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <200202211415.g1LEFptB001931@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

AB Strakt wants to do _something_ for this conference.  But we have to
decide _what_ in a meeting and the earliest we can do that is Monday
because we have every free moment of time this week already booked.  I
cannot get a meeting sooner.

I would like to know if the Belgians really care that the society has
anything to do with Belgium.  I would like to know how long making an
inter-European thing would take.   The only reason I suggested 
making a Swedish society is because I know how to make one on
my lunch break. I can make everybody on this list, and everybody
in Belgium if we so desire members (as long as they volunteer --
we cannot induct them).

Time passes.  AB Strakt wants to donate to the conference costs but
has no place to put any money.  I'd like to have something _soon_ even
if it is a short lived thing.

Laura Creighton


From tom.deprez@village.uunet.be  Thu Feb 21 14:43:56 2002
From: tom.deprez@village.uunet.be (Tom Deprez)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 15:43:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Putting PressReleases on europython.org?
References: <1014299605.3c74fbd56ad81@webmail.in-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <005901c1bae6$5d052ff0$c18c84d5@skullsplitter>

If the pressreleases are in STX, than I see no problem adding these ones to
the europython.org site...
See my previous mails that it is now possible to add 'easely' some content
to europython...

Regards, Tom.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dinu Gherman" <gherman@darwin.in-berlin.de>
To: <europython@python.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 2:53 PM
Subject: [EuroPython] Putting PressReleases on europython.org?


> Hi,
>
> I just revisited the press release wiki pages and want to start
> sending it away. Hence, the first immediate question is: could
> we hook these few pages up somewhere directly on europython.org
> (in all available languages) such that I can send email to jour-
> nalists with some ASCII version of the text and point them to
> the "real" thing (which URLs etc.) but without inviting people
> to hack the precious wiki space?
>
> Regards,
>
> Dinu
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Thu Feb 21 16:11:59 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 17:11:59 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Budget Team: Association (EEIG / EWIV) Links
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPMEJMDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <00a701c1baf2$7eeb3400$c18c84d5@skullsplitter>

> > Philippe
> > I guess the best person to ask is someone from P3B, because they already
> > made this (the differences between the theory and the real world are
> > sometimes "huge"). In short think you need to publish "status" (a
> > founding text) to the "moniteur" (a paper where a lot of legal things
> > are published). she's not there atm, so I can't tell more.
>
> Ok, who know persons from P3B ???

The best person to contact concerning P3B is I guess Denis at the moment.

Tom.





From jacek@artymiak.com  Thu Feb 21 19:19:08 2002
From: jacek@artymiak.com (Jacek Artymiak)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 18:19:08 -0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: EuroPython digest, Vol 1 #70 - 14 msgs
In-Reply-To: <E16dwbr-0003n8-00@mail.python.org>; from europython-request@python.org on Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 12:02:19PM -0500
References: <E16dwbr-0003n8-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <20020221181908.G29845@skuba.h--y.com>

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 12:02:19PM -0500, europython-request@python.org wrote:
> You can look at the current knowledge status in the LegalBody wiki page.
> 
> Would YOU choose to be a member? Beeing member does not neccessaryly mean
> you have to pay a membership fee (but I'm not saying that there will be NO
> membership fee :-) - no one knows that till today...)

It depends on the exact legal status of this entity.

> Are you willing to be a "functionaire", meaning playing some part of
> "official role"? Apart from fame and some far-future treasures this does
> mean some responsibility and maybe work.

I can volunteer some time and effort without being a member.  I'd need to kow more about the exact functions I'd be expected to perform.

--
Jacek



From spirou@p3b.org  Thu Feb 21 19:00:02 2002
From: spirou@p3b.org (Denis)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:00:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
Message-ID: <20020221190002.GA2077@aragne.com>

 Hi all,

 (First of all, I have to warn that I tried to send a message with
 the same content this morning, message that is still in the queue
 of my MTA since I've problems with my ISP for the moment. I ran here
 and there during this afternoon to have my connection back, but it
 doesn't seem to work though my hated ISP told me it was reestablished.
 So, you probably see another message like this one coming on the list
 in a few minutes, hours or days depending on my ISP celerity to solve
 problems).
  
 You seem to say you would like more information on Belgian association
 structures with those requirements :
 - non-profit organization
 - Charleroi (or at least Belgian) based
 - with a quickly efficient bank account.

 I already told you about A.S.B.L. (association sans but lucratif)
 That's the most common type of association for such circumstances.
 It's pretty official : it has to be registered in the "Laws Book"
 (what we call "Le Moniteur Belge"). The drawback is that it could take
 some time to be up and running.

 There is another possibility : "l'association de fait".
 Yes it can be very quick, but it's not as credible in front of
 institutionnal entities. You just have to be a bunch of friends to do
 it, but your interlocutors will know that, so they generally find it 
 untrusty.

 Do you really need more details ?
 I guess belgian legislation is not very different from other european
 countries one.
 
 Now, what I want you to answer is :
 *For_the_moment*, do we have to create a new association in a hurry ?
 Do we have time to spend/waste with that *now* ?
 Shouldn't we use existing structures as I proposed a few days ago ?
 Didn't you notice the proposition ? (I haven't seen someone saying
 "no, because ...")
 What disadvantages would you see in this alternative ?
 

 Beside my ISP problem, I don't post as often as you seem to want me
 to post, because I don't really see what I could add to my previous
 mails. I've been very busy these days, if not on the list, well in
 the "real world". I keep getting local contacts :
 - I can't get a written confirmation of Charleroi authorities support
   so, let me tell you that I can't be quiet about that.
   (The CEME admin's have phoned me today to ask if we were
   still willing the building !)
   I'm trying to reach the right persons, but it's pittyfully difficult.
 - Saturday, Sunday, Tuesday, Wednesday there were different Free
   Software meetings (FOSDEM for those who know, and other ones
   initiated by Nicolas Pettiaux), meetings during which I've met lots
   of people that could help us : possible sponsors, TV people, Belgian
   LUGs, politics, ...
   I've no visit card anymore.
 
 
 I swear I've been spending hours for our Python (and Zope) Conference,
 don't ask me to spend more time telling you about belgian laws on
 associations/societies. I founded 2 ASBL last year, so I know how to do
 it, but I also know it can be time consuming.
 If you want a brand new EuroPython structure before doing anything
 else, contact Daniel Quintart : he is a professionnal jurist and 
 he has much sympathy for the Free-Software community. Because of my
 ISP problem, I can't reach my address book from here, but  Nicolas has
 his mail address too.
 Also ask everyone who's willing to pay for it and send him the money.
   
 Back soon, with better news I hope.
 
 Denis
 


From jacek@artymiak.com  Thu Feb 21 21:03:40 2002
From: jacek@artymiak.com (Jacek Artymiak)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:03:40 -0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
Message-ID: <20020221200340.H29845@skuba.h--y.com>

Can non-EU residents be members and/or functionaries?

-- 
Jacek Artymiak
writer, author, developer, consultant --------------------------- 
e-mail: jacek@artymiak.com            ---------------------------
   www: http://www.artymiak.com       ---------------------------


From all@123piano.com  Thu Feb 21 19:30:57 2002
From: all@123piano.com (Philippe Jadin)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 20:30:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
References: <20020221190002.GA2077@aragne.com>
Message-ID: <3C754AF1.4040904@123piano.com>

imvho we should use the existing structure as Denis proposed a few mails 
ago, and use P3B existing accounts and statutes. At least if we want 
something "hic et nunc".

philippe

Denis wrote:

><snip>
>





From lozinski@openstepnews.com  Thu Feb 21 19:39:41 2002
From: lozinski@openstepnews.com (Christopher Lozinski)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 11:39:41 -0800
Subject: [EuroPython] How to write checks easily
References: <E16dwbr-0003n8-00@mail.python.org>
Message-ID: <3C754CFC.66FA7DE1@openstepnews.com>

One simple solution is to file a one page Doing Business As statement in the US, and then
open a checking account.  The barriers to entry are much lower in the US.

The only problem is it may not be possible to get a euro denominated bank account in the US.

Just thought I would mention this as an option.

Regards
Christopher Lozinski



From marc@msys.ch  Thu Feb 21 21:29:13 2002
From: marc@msys.ch (Marc Balmer)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 22:29:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
In-Reply-To: <20020221200340.H29845@skuba.h--y.com>
Message-ID: <0D0F92B6-2712-11D6-A447-003065F9345A@msys.ch>

Am Donnerstag den, 21. Februar 2002, um 22:03, schrieb Jacek Artymiak:

> Can non-EU residents be members and/or functionaries?

I hope and expect so.  Switzerland is not an EU member,

- mb

--
Marc Balmer, Micro Systems, Kannenfeldstrasse 32, CH-4056 Basel
Tel +41 61 383 05 10, Fax +41 61 383 05 12, http://www.msys.ch/



From jacek@artymiak.com  Fri Feb 22 10:57:07 2002
From: jacek@artymiak.com (Jacek Artymiak)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 09:57:07 -0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
In-Reply-To: <0D0F92B6-2712-11D6-A447-003065F9345A@msys.ch>; from marc@msys.ch on Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:29:13PM +0100
References: <20020221200340.H29845@skuba.h--y.com> <0D0F92B6-2712-11D6-A447-003065F9345A@msys.ch>
Message-ID: <20020222095707.A1523@skuba.h--y.com>

On Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:29:13PM +0100, Marc Balmer wrote:
> > Can non-EU residents be members and/or functionaries?
> 
> I hope and expect so.  Switzerland is not an EU member,

I see.  I still wonder how I could help by being a member?  I live in Poland.  It's a bit far from Belgium :-)  Any ideas?

-- 
Jacek Artymiak
writer, author, developer, consultant --------------------------- 
e-mail: jacek@artymiak.com            ---------------------------
   www: http://www.artymiak.com       ---------------------------


From denis@aragne.com  Thu Feb 21 11:10:19 2002
From: denis@aragne.com (Denis)
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 12:10:19 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Budget Team: Association (EEIG / EWIV) Links; Chareloi team
In-Reply-To: <3C74BC4A.484E5232@lemburg.com>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJDDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <3C74BC4A.484E5232@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020221121019.A1394@carolo.net>

Le Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:22:18AM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg pianota:
> Andrew Smart wrote:
> > To get local support from Belgium / Chareloi we need someone from
> > Belgium/Chareloi who is willing to be member at least and helps us with the
> > local registration... Anyone reading?
> 
> I think this is the most important part of it: if we lose the
> CEME, we'll have an open air event :-/

Sorry not to be present enough in this discussion : these days have been
really loaded for me.

The positive point is that I met lots of people to which I asked for
support (IBM, Systemat, O'Reilly, TV people, and a lot more).

The negative point is that I've been rarely posting. I tried to read
every message and this has consumed the time I could give to the
mailing-list.

Back to the point :

I proposed (as Joachim) we use existing structures *for_the_moment*,
so that we're not in a hurry to create a brand new EuroPython org. 
Nobody seems to take this alternative into account.

The requirements seem to be :
1. a non-profit organization
2. preferably Belgium/Charleroi based
3. with a bank account quickly effective

P3B fullfills these requirements. 
What else do you want ?
Why is that proposition not valuable ?
Is it because you wouldn't trust P3B ?

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb 22 09:39:58 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 10:39:58 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Budget Team: Association (EEIG / EWIV) Links;
 Chareloi team
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJDDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <3C74BC4A.484E5232@lemburg.com> <20020221121019.A1394@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <3C7611EE.318D6006@lemburg.com>

Denis wrote:
> 
> Le Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 10:22:18AM +0100, M.-A. Lemburg pianota:
> > Andrew Smart wrote:
> > > To get local support from Belgium / Chareloi we need someone from
> > > Belgium/Chareloi who is willing to be member at least and helps us with the
> > > local registration... Anyone reading?
> >
> > I think this is the most important part of it: if we lose the
> > CEME, we'll have an open air event :-/
> 
> Sorry not to be present enough in this discussion : these days have been
> really loaded for me.
> 
> The positive point is that I met lots of people to which I asked for
> support (IBM, Systemat, O'Reilly, TV people, and a lot more).

That's good news !
 
> The negative point is that I've been rarely posting. I tried to read
> every message and this has consumed the time I could give to the
> mailing-list.
> 
> Back to the point :
> 
> I proposed (as Joachim) we use existing structures *for_the_moment*,
> so that we're not in a hurry to create a brand new EuroPython org.

Sorry, I must have missed this posting.

> Nobody seems to take this alternative into account.
> 
> The requirements seem to be :
> 1. a non-profit organization
> 2. preferably Belgium/Charleroi based
> 3. with a bank account quickly effective
> 
> P3B fullfills these requirements.
> What else do you want ?
> Why is that proposition not valuable ?
> Is it because you wouldn't trust P3B ?

Not really :-) I think the major points have to do with 
lack of information about P3B, e.g. the web-site doesn't
mention the fact that P3B is officially recognized as
non-profit org, the bylaws are not public, neither are
meeting minutes, the mission statement, etc.

Apart from not having any information on P3B, I have
a feeling that people from the org team will want to 
play an important role in the organization, i.e.
as board members, and it's not clear how this fits
with P3B.

Finally, if we are going to go for a EEIG at some
later point, P3B wouldn't be able to become member
of it (because of its non-profit status). Not sure if
that should bother us, but might be of importance for
the overall concept.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 22 12:30:11 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:30:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
In-Reply-To: <20020221200340.H29845@skuba.h--y.com>
References: <20020221200340.H29845@skuba.h--y.com>
Message-ID: <20020222123011.GA12563@vet.uu.nl>

Jacek Artymiak wrote:
> Can non-EU residents be members and/or functionaries?

Sure, this is a European Python conference, not a EU one. Anyone who
wants to help is very welcome to do so. I don't think even residency
in Europe should be a requirement.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Fri Feb 22 12:31:50 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:31:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Putting PressReleases on europython.org?
In-Reply-To: <005901c1bae6$5d052ff0$c18c84d5@skullsplitter>
References: <1014299605.3c74fbd56ad81@webmail.in-berlin.de> <005901c1bae6$5d052ff0$c18c84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <20020222123150.GB12563@vet.uu.nl>

Tom Deprez wrote:
> If the pressreleases are in STX, than I see no problem adding these ones to
> the europython.org site...
> See my previous mails that it is now possible to add 'easely' some content
> to europython...

In fact I already did a quick setup for that involving the English version.
The press releases are in structured text, as the wiki uses structured
text. So it'd only involve adding the other-language versions to the
same Zope folder and making them accessible in HTML as well somehow (
the English press release currently just is displayed on the homepage).

Regards,

Martijn



From mal@lemburg.com  Fri Feb 22 13:14:33 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:14:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Re: To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
References: <20020221200340.H29845@skuba.h--y.com> <20020222123011.GA12563@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C764439.400E8EF0@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Jacek Artymiak wrote:
> > Can non-EU residents be members and/or functionaries?
> 
> Sure, this is a European Python conference, not a EU one. Anyone who
> wants to help is very welcome to do so. I don't think even residency
> in Europe should be a requirement.

I think he meant whether he can become member of whatever
organization we come up with. This depends on the law
governing the organization.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Fri Feb 22 19:28:32 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:28:32 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
In-Reply-To: <3C754AF1.4040904@123piano.com>
References: <20020221190002.GA2077@aragne.com> <3C754AF1.4040904@123piano.com>
Message-ID: <E16eLMw-0001rk-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Jeudi 21 F=E9vrier 2002 20:30, Philippe Jadin a =E9crit :
> imvho we should use the existing structure as Denis proposed a few mail=
s
> ago, and use P3B existing accounts and statutes. At least if we want
> something "hic et nunc".

I support this view. There is an existing Structure, that is not for prof=
it=20
and which objectives are very similar to the one of the would be European=
=20
association.=20

We could start with it, even do "the European Python and Zope conference,=
=20
organized by P3B" ("by" could mean "using P3B as a legal tool")

That give us some time to set up something else if we feel the need and f=
ind=20
the resource to set it up, that could be ready by end June.

This is also simple as far as I understand it.

My 2 cents,

Nicolas

> philippe
>
> Denis wrote:
> ><snip>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Fri Feb 22 19:36:44 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:36:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] access to the wiki
Message-ID: <E16eLUr-00029o-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

I try to access the wiki under http://www.europython.org/wiki as I use to=
 do=20
a week ago, but can only get to the press release.

Some questions:

1/ Has anything changed ? What do I need to do ?

2/ Where do I find the tentative site build on top of the content of the =
wiki=20
?

My feeling is that, as soon as possible and by the time the PR is sent, w=
e=20
should have a usable, maybe simple, web site with a registration page, as=
 I=20
expect many people to come when they see the PR but coming hardly a secon=
d=20
time if it is not ready at the time the PR is sent.

Thanks,

Nicolas


--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Fri Feb 22 19:30:59 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:30:59 +0100
Subject: AW: AW: [EuroPython] Budget Team: Association (EEIG / EWIV) Links; Chareloi team
In-Reply-To: <20020221121019.A1394@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPIEKGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

> Auftrag von Denis
> The positive point is that I met lots of people to which I asked for
> support (IBM, Systemat, O'Reilly, TV people, and a lot more).

Good! What did they answer? :-) (just curious)

> I proposed (as Joachim) we use existing structures *for_the_moment*,
> so that we're not in a hurry to create a brand new EuroPython org.
> Nobody seems to take this alternative into account.
>
> The requirements seem to be :
> 1. a non-profit organization
> 2. preferably Belgium/Charleroi based
> 3. with a bank account quickly effective
>
> P3B fullfills these requirements.
> What else do you want ?
> Why is that proposition not valuable ?
> Is it because you wouldn't trust P3B ?

If have no problems with P3B... I think the discussion has gone astray a bit
and finally got to "how to create a new organisation". I have no problems if
P3B is willing to let them be "official organisator". I think they won't
exclude us for doing the work ;-) or make our decisions about tracks and
stuff like that...

If they have what we need (official status, non-profit, bank account) and
they are willing to help us: let's go to other topics, we have enough to do.

I think we have gained valueable knowledge and maybe we can use that to
create a european wide organisation for supporting Python. Maybe while the
conference is going on... and, of course, if we found something, we have to
have a party... :-) But I'm not pushing this, if we don't found anything
it's ok for me, because then we can spend the time to have a party
*laughter*

Now: who is who in P3B? Can we have something "official" from them (joining
the list, saying something about what their support can be)? Denis, have you
some official role in P3B?

Andrew (finally happy that we come now to offers, facts and decisions... :-)



From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Fri Feb 22 22:32:48 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 23:32:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] French Press Release
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202211311230.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <00eb01c1bacf$afceb240$c18c84d5@skullsplitter> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202211311230.593-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020222233248.B22525@carolo.net>

Le Thu, Feb 21, 2002 at 01:13:07PM +0100, Nicolas Chauvat pianota:
> Hey,
>=20
> Could the person that translated the press release into french tell me
> whether it is ready yet or not and what I could do to help ? I would li=
ke
> to start sending it today...

I did translate the first version.
Didn't you send me a mail saying that you would do it this time ?

Non, c'est pas pour te forcer la main, j'avais cru comprendre avec
l'histoire du doigt lev=E9. :-)

A+
--=20
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org=20
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Fri Feb 22 22:46:56 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 23:46:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] access to the wiki
In-Reply-To: <E16eLUr-00029o-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <E16eLUr-00029o-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020222234656.C22525@carolo.net>

Le Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:36:44PM +0100, Nicolas Pettiaux pianota:
> 
> I try to access the wiki under http://www.europython.org/wiki as I use to do 
> a week ago, but can only get to the press release.

http://www.europython.org/draftwiki

Faut pas laisser passer un message, hein ?

A+
-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Sat Feb 23 01:05:20 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 02:05:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
In-Reply-To: <E16eLMw-0001rk-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <20020221190002.GA2077@aragne.com> <3C754AF1.4040904@123piano.com> <E16eLMw-0001rk-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020223020520.B24081@carolo.net>

Le Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 08:28:32PM +0100, Nicolas Pettiaux pianota:
> There is an existing Structure, that is not for profit and which
> objectives are very similar to the one of the would be European=20
> association.=20

A few words about it : it a brand new ASBL with a brand new bank
account (+ 00.00 euros on it). It was created a few months ago just to
organize such events at a Belgium level, or for any Python project done
"for fame" (as opposed to "for money").

The members are relatives and me (because it was easier to create it).
I've never called out to get other members : we've have not yet decided
what could be the member fee even.

We've never earn the least first eurocent with it. At the opposite, we
payed for the official registration and Aragne host it for free.
(i.e. I pay for the domain name and all other charges)

I already told you : you may see every bank account report, I've nothing
to hide.=20

The bylaws (as it seems to be called in English) have been done by
another local specialized non-profit organization called MPA (Maison
pour les Associations). I've them in a bad word document. We should
publish them on our website, yes, but we have been too lazy to clean
the .doc and put it online.

We've been having a website for about 2 years. The one you may discover
at http://www.p3b.org is a new version we've just put online with the
announcement of the EuroPython meeting. I agree it's not very
exhaustive : ask Chronos for us having 48 hours a day and you'll see a
difference. We will have a "ask-to-be-member" form and so on.=20

> We could start with it, even do "the European Python and Zope conferenc=
e,=20
> organized by P3B" ("by" could mean "using P3B as a legal tool")

No need to insist. Just use it to save us some time now, and let's go
for another structure when more urgent is done.
Of course, when I ask for local support I speak in the name of "P3B and
the whole EuroPython Team", but we don't need to speak about P3B where
it's not relevant : just Use "EuroPython Team", short form is nice.

After the event, if the account has a positive balance, you'll decide
what we should do with the extra : give it to a new EuroPython structure
to have some funds to start working on EuroPython 2003 (in any other
country), or spend it in any way you want for Python glory.

If the account has a negative balance (it shouldn't happen if we act as
"bons p=E8res de famille") I hope you would help me to reach the zero
level too.

> That give us some time to set up something else if we feel the need
> and find the resource to set it up, that could be ready by end June.

Yes, and we can call Daniel Quintart to help us to find the right
solution. I cc him this mail too.
(I told you about him in my previous message).

Denis

--=20
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org=20
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Sat Feb 23 02:11:52 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 03:11:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
In-Reply-To: <005b01c1ba12$3c9a08f0$3aff44d4@gfx>
References: <005b01c1ba12$3c9a08f0$3aff44d4@gfx>
Message-ID: <20020223031152.C25523@carolo.net>

Le Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 02:26:41PM +0100, vincent pianota:
> This a model for the logo...
> 
> Maybe you prefer this way ?

Yes ! Very nice. :-)

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Sat Feb 23 03:24:18 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 04:24:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference spirit [Was: What about this logo ???]
Message-ID: <20020223042418.D25523@carolo.net>

Le Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 05:21:53PM +0100, Marc Balmer pianota:
> 
> Those customers will definitely not take for serious a hacker style guy
> wearing a Python cap and a cool T-shirt, whatsoever hes/her knowledge
> may be.  Switzerland is conservative.  To do business and to be taken
> for serious, you wear a suit.  Stupid, but so it is.  And I am talking 
> about business ($$$), not some freaky, underpaid short time project.
> 
> And I hope thats a focus of EuroPython as well.

Should we expurge Python books : rewriting all "spam" with "stock" too ?
Should we ask Guido to wear a suit when playing the top-model ?
   http://www.python.org/~guido/pics.html
What about EuroPython 2003 in Liechtenstein ?

Will you all forget about CP4E too ? 

I guess I'll stay a freaky underpaid guy.

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Sat Feb 23 10:48:44 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 11:48:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] access to the wiki
References: <E16eLUr-00029o-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <018801c1bc57$c9846c00$a88d84d5@skullsplitter>

>My feeling is that, as soon as possible and by the time the PR is sent, we
should have a usable, maybe simple, web site with a registration page, as I
>expect many people to come when they see the PR but coming hardly a second
time if it is not ready at the time the PR is sent.

Ok. Well, a registration form shouldn't be that difficult.
I assume we can have access to a postgressql database? And with Martijn's
skills of Formulater, the page should be ready in no time :-)
But, what has to be on it? what kind of receipt should the subscriber get?
what do they have to pay? Should they be able to pay with VISA, etc?

Regards, Tom





From oli@aragne.com  Sat Feb 23 10:52:49 2002
From: oli@aragne.com (Olivier Laurent)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 11:52:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Press release - where is it published - site for wiki created
In-Reply-To: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEJGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOEJGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <200202231051.ATU29389@mirapoint2.brutele.be>

On Thursday 21 February 2002 09:36, Andrew Smart wrote:
> Hi press-folks,
>
> I just created a page where we can note the sites where the press release
> has been published:
>
> http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/PressWhereIsItShown
>
> Since I'm browsing much at the moment I'll note every site which has
> officially published our press release.

The news at 'http://www.schockwellenreiter.de/2002/02/12.html' is pointing to 
a non existing page: 'http://europython.zope.nl/press_release'.

I temporarilly added a redirecting DTML method to 'http://www.europython.org'.

-- 
Olivier Laurent.
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Sat Feb 23 11:25:11 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 12:25:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] europython web developers
Message-ID: <01de01c1bc5c$f700ea50$a88d84d5@skullsplitter>

Hi,

To all people interested in web development:

For the moment, the following people took part in discussion:

Design:

dagmar.kolb@just-ad.de
mvm@brutele.be
philippe@123piano.com
tom@aragne.com

Structure/Coding:

philippe@123piano.com
obenassy@free.fr
faassen@vet.uu.nl (I think Martijn would like to help us with ZFormulater?)
tom@aragne.com

It is quiet possible that I forgot people, I've the tendency to forget very
easely. If so, just wack around my ears and tell me that you're with us on
the project.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
---------

Could we start a discussion on how we would structure the site?

Just some info on the state right now:

The site is only a one-level site, ie all content is put into folders and
these folders make the left menu.
There is a very basic ZPT framework which creates the left menu and there is
a basic python script which can be used to include STX inside the body of
the ZPT framework. The left menu is created from folders with a 'visible'
property set to 'on'

I think we can use this basic structure to go further with the development.
We can create the structure by adding folders. When the content of a folder
is finished, we can set the visible property to true.
The ZPT framework will do for now. If we want to add other autogenerated
things like breadcrumbs etc, all we've to do is to add some code to the
framework. This way we can create a working but rude version of the site.

By the end the webdesigners have formed an idea on the look of the site, we
can incorporate this into the framework etc.

Now, it is time to think about the structure. What will go in as first
level, .how many levels we think are needed, etc...

Let's brainstorm and then incorporate the structure right away. After this,
we can start on the discussion of the content of every folder and then
devide the work.

Home
   Introduction
   Press-Release
Place
    Map
    How to get there
    Transport means
    Pleasure
Registration
Submissions
    (of papers, tutorials, code)
Conference Track
    Time Table
    Python Track
    Zope Track
    Tutorials
    BoF
    Code contents
Hotel Information
Conference Committee
    Legal body
    Contact Persons
Sponsors
    How to sponsor
    Different Sponsors

Please, give some feedback

What about the different languages? How will we handle this? eg the
Press-Releases
Should we have to make the site full multi-langual? I think English is good
enough for most of the site.
Do we even have the manpower to make it fully multi-langual?

Regards, Tom.




From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 23 12:53:22 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 13:53:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] website
In-Reply-To: <00ec01c1bacf$b2e4cbe0$c18c84d5@skullsplitter>
References: <00ec01c1bacf$b2e4cbe0$c18c84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <20020223125322.GA15831@vet.uu.nl>

Tom Deprez wrote:
> Which content has to be added to the website?
> I can easely do that rigth now. ie STX can easely be added. A small
> framework is ready to add content.
> So let me know which parts can be put on the website.

Most important right now is the press releases in the various languages. 
Right now I only ported over the english press release from the wiki.

It'd be nice if you ran it through some editor so the lines don't
become too long (within the 79 char range) as I did with the english
press release. This is important for the plaintext form of the press
release. It is also necessary for this to have all &eacute; and such 
be replaced with the actual accented characters..

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 23 13:00:19 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:00:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] To all mail list members: what's your opinion?
In-Reply-To: <200202211415.g1LEFptB001931@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKEJKDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de> <200202211415.g1LEFptB001931@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020223130019.GB15831@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
[snip]
> Time passes.  AB Strakt wants to donate to the conference costs but
> has no place to put any money.  I'd like to have something _soon_ even
> if it is a short lived thing.

If we want a short-lived thing we could handle that most easily with
Denis and P3B. Requirements in my mind are:

  * a kind of legal/official sounding statement from P3B on what they'll 
    do with the money if the conference makes a profit (put it in the bank
    account of the to-be-formed EuroPython Foundation, which then we'll
    form at the conference itself)

  * somekind of system in place where conference organizers can easily
    reach someone from P3B to actually *spend* money on our budget
    in various ways.

  * P3B should realize that they run the risk if the conference makes
    a loss, since they're the legal entity that would be in trouble
    in that case.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 23 13:02:11 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:02:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
In-Reply-To: <E16eLMw-0001rk-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
References: <20020221190002.GA2077@aragne.com> <3C754AF1.4040904@123piano.com> <E16eLMw-0001rk-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <20020223130211.GC15831@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> Le Jeudi 21 F?vrier 2002 20:30, Philippe Jadin a ?crit :
> > imvho we should use the existing structure as Denis proposed a few mails
> > ago, and use P3B existing accounts and statutes. At least if we want
> > something "hic et nunc".
> 
> I support this view. There is an existing Structure, that is not for profit 
> and which objectives are very similar to the one of the would be European 
> association. 

I also support this view, with the things I wrote in an earlier mail
as some requirements/points to make if we go this route.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 23 13:07:31 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:07:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
In-Reply-To: <20020223020520.B24081@carolo.net>
References: <20020221190002.GA2077@aragne.com> <3C754AF1.4040904@123piano.com> <E16eLMw-0001rk-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <20020223020520.B24081@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <20020223130731.GD15831@vet.uu.nl>

Denis wrote:
[snip]
> After the event, if the account has a positive balance, you'll decide
> what we should do with the extra : give it to a new EuroPython structure
> to have some funds to start working on EuroPython 2003 (in any other
> country), or spend it in any way you want for Python glory.
> 
> If the account has a negative balance (it shouldn't happen if we act as
> "bons p?res de famille") I hope you would help me to reach the zero
> level too.

Cool, answers on the list already; see my points in another thread.

If there's a positive balance, use that to start up a EuroPython organization
which can then move on to organizing EuroPython 2003. Agreed.

If there's a negative balance, we would of course love to make up for
it and have it reach zero, but perhaps we should have somekind of clearer
mechanism for this in place. This is the inherent risk basically of not
having a EuroPython organization but using P3B. If we can get the budget
group to take care of what happens with the money we should be able to
avoid this scenario. As this might become very very messy with blame
going both ways ('shouldn't have used the budget to fund the come-back of
the Guido Dancers!' 'ah, but what about the woman in the cake then huh?', 
etc)

Thanks Denis!

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 23 13:12:23 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:12:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] What about this logo ???
In-Reply-To: <3C73CE94.660BC443@lemburg.com>
References: <F37C731A-261D-11D6-8F54-003065F9345A@msys.ch> <3C73CE94.660BC443@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020223131223.GE15831@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
[no hackers in tshirts!]
> > And I hope thats a focus of EuroPython as well.
> 
> I hope so too... it will definitely be the focus for the
> business track.

Let's make that the focus of the business track, but let's let the 
scientists be scientists and the hackers be hackers. The business
aspect to the conference is important, but without attracting hackers
there for instance (as they think they'd to wear a suit!) we won't get
any useful cross-fertilization, and it might as well be a demo session
on what Python can do for businesses, instead of an actual conference.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 23 13:22:31 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:22:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference spirit [Was: What about this logo ???]
In-Reply-To: <20020223042418.D25523@carolo.net>
References: <20020223042418.D25523@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <20020223132231.GF15831@vet.uu.nl>

Denis wrote:
> Le Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 05:21:53PM +0100, Marc Balmer pianota:
> > 
> > Those customers will definitely not take for serious a hacker style guy
> > wearing a Python cap and a cool T-shirt, whatsoever hes/her knowledge
> > may be.  Switzerland is conservative.  To do business and to be taken
> > for serious, you wear a suit.  Stupid, but so it is.  And I am talking 
> > about business ($$$), not some freaky, underpaid short time project.
> > 
> > And I hope thats a focus of EuroPython as well.
> 
[snip some rumblings from Denis]

Don't worry, I'll be appearing in T-shirt too. :)

EuroPython should be for Python users and developers. Suits, hackers, 
and anything in between. I lean towards 'hacker' myself, but am willing to
accept any amount of suits in the audience, if they're okay with me. The
suggestion is here that it isn't okay with them, however -- in that case
it's their loss.

The conference should be for *all* Python users and developers. This 
includes business types, and it includes hackers, and everybody else. To
exclude any group would be a loss to all of us. We could end up with a
bunch of underfunded hackers one way, or a bunch of business types wondering
why all the development stopped the other way.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 23 14:07:13 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 15:07:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] europython web developers
In-Reply-To: <01de01c1bc5c$f700ea50$a88d84d5@skullsplitter>
References: <01de01c1bc5c$f700ea50$a88d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <20020223140713.GA15958@vet.uu.nl>

Tom Deprez wrote:
> To all people interested in web development:
> 
> For the moment, the following people took part in discussion:
[snip]
> faassen@vet.uu.nl (I think Martijn would like to help us with ZFormulater?)

I can help with Formulator as well as with other technical detail. But
since I wear various hats on the list I can't really guarantee a lot of time.

> Could we start a discussion on how we would structure the site?
> 
> Just some info on the state right now:
> 
> The site is only a one-level site, ie all content is put into folders and
> these folders make the left menu.
> There is a very basic ZPT framework which creates the left menu and there is
> a basic python script which can be used to include STX inside the body of
> the ZPT framework. The left menu is created from folders with a 'visible'
> property set to 'on'

> I think we can use this basic structure to go further with the development.
> We can create the structure by adding folders. When the content of a folder
> is finished, we can set the visible property to true.
> The ZPT framework will do for now.

Indeed, sounds like a very good start to me.

> If we want to add other autogenerated
> things like breadcrumbs etc, all we've to do is to add some code to the
> framework. This way we can create a working but rude version of the site.

I can supply a bit of breadcrumb python script easily. But I'm sure
you can too. :)
 
[snip]
> Now, it is time to think about the structure. What will go in as first
> level, .how many levels we think are needed, etc...
> 
> Let's brainstorm and then incorporate the structure right away. After this,
> we can start on the discussion of the content of every folder and then
> devide the work.

Note that this is also relevant to the PR people and so on, not just
to the web, as we're talking about contents here. I'll create a wiki
page of your structure and announce it up for some discussion, in case
you missed something. Then after a (short) amount of discussion, we'll whip
it up.

[snip site structure proposal]

> What about the different languages? How will we handle this? eg the
> Press-Releases
> Should we have to make the site full multi-langual? I think English is good
> enough for most of the site.

Let's start out in English, and if people become very motivated to make
it multilingual they can lend a hand. We should provide the press release
in multiple languages though, but that's simple enough to accomplish.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 23 14:17:35 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 15:17:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] proposed website structure
Message-ID: <20020223141735.GB15958@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

Everybody concerned about the contents of our website:

Tom Deprez proposed a site structure I've wikified here:

 http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/SiteStructure

Some of my comments:

  * Rename 'Press-Release' to 'Press Releases'

  * BoF -> BoFs

  * Conference Track -> Conference Program

  * What do you mean by 'Code contents'?

  * Now there's a Python Track and a Zope Track. I think we want to 
    pull out the various tracks (business, science, developer) to the same
    level as the zope track for now. When the Zope track gets more
    definition we may want to split that one up as well.

  * possibly we should move 'Hotel Info' under 'Place', though it may
    be good to link to it from the homepage.

I think the rest looks good.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Sat Feb 23 14:22:37 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 15:22:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] paper/tutorial submission form
Message-ID: <20020223142237.GC15958@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

I've made a first go at the paper submission form, following the structure
described on this page:

http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/RequestForPapers

The initial form is here:

http://europython.zope.nl/call_for_papers

but will move after the site structure issues get worked out.

I expect there to be some discussion about missing fields, perhaps
superfluous fields. Also I'd like to have some discussion about duration;
do we want 90 minute conference sessions? Do we want 3 hour and even 6
hour tutorials, or would something like 1.5 hour up to 3 hour be more
suitable? Also I'm not sure what 'other:paper' means and such. :)

Anyway, discuss away.

Regards,

Martijn



From mal@lemburg.com  Sun Feb 24 13:52:29 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 14:52:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference Registration
References: <E16eLUr-00029o-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <018801c1bc57$c9846c00$a88d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <3C78F01D.CDA08852@lemburg.com>

Tom Deprez wrote:
> 
> >My feeling is that, as soon as possible and by the time the PR is sent, we
> should have a usable, maybe simple, web site with a registration page, as I
> >expect many people to come when they see the PR but coming hardly a second
> time if it is not ready at the time the PR is sent.
> 
> Ok. Well, a registration form shouldn't be that difficult.
> I assume we can have access to a postgressql database? And with Martijn's
> skills of Formulater, the page should be ready in no time :-)
> But, what has to be on it? what kind of receipt should the subscriber get?
> what do they have to pay? Should they be able to pay with VISA, etc?

I'd suggest to use services such as PayPal.com and ShareIT.com
for dealing with the money side of the registration. I've been
using ShareIT for quite a while now and they provide great service
at low fees.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Sun Feb 24 14:26:23 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:26:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] proposed website structure
References: <20020223141735.GB15958@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <004a01c1bd3f$73e41000$e58c84d5@skullsplitter>

> Some of my comments:
>
>   * Rename 'Press-Release' to 'Press Releases'

Ok.

>   * BoF -> BoFs

Ok.

>   * Conference Track -> Conference Program
>
>   * What do you mean by 'Code contents'?

Hmm,  couldn't find a word for the possible Programming Contest.... and I
just dropped something so I wouldn't forget it.

>   * Now there's a Python Track and a Zope Track. I think we want to pull
out the various tracks (business, science, developer) to the same
>     level as the zope track for now. When the Zope track gets more
definition we may want to split that one up as well.

Ok.

>   * possibly we should move 'Hotel Info' under 'Place', though it may
be good to link to it from the homepage.

Yes, I thought on this also, but mostly for conferences hotel info is
something all visitors need to have. And I think it is better to keep that
very visible, so that it easely found. So I placed this at first level.

> I think the rest looks good.
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Sun Feb 24 15:23:44 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 16:23:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference Registration
In-Reply-To: <3C78F01D.CDA08852@lemburg.com>
References: <E16eLUr-00029o-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <018801c1bc57$c9846c00$a88d84d5@skullsplitter> <3C78F01D.CDA08852@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <E16f0V7-0000fF-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Dimanche 24 F=E9vrier 2002 14:52, M.-A. Lemburg a =E9crit :
> I'd suggest to use services such as PayPal.com and ShareIT.com
> for dealing with the money side of the registration. I've been
> using ShareIT for quite a while now and they provide great service
> at low fees.

Very good idea that I support fully

Nicolas
--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From andy@reportlab.com  Sun Feb 24 15:55:57 2002
From: andy@reportlab.com (Andy Robinson)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:55:57 -0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference Registration
In-Reply-To: <E16f0V7-0000fF-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>
Message-ID: <LKENLBBMDHMKBECHIAIAOEJKCEAA.andy@reportlab.com>

> Le Dimanche 24 Février 2002 14:52, M.-A. Lemburg a écrit :
> > I'd suggest to use services such as PayPal.com and ShareIT.com
> > for dealing with the money side of the registration. I've been
> > using ShareIT for quite a while now and they provide great service
> > at low fees.
>
> Very good idea that I support fully

Me too.  Marc-Andrew told me about ShareIt, ReportLab uses it,
and the fees are lower than any other online payment service
I have seen.  They are European too.


- Andy Robinson




From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Sun Feb 24 16:14:11 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 17:14:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] press releases
Message-ID: <00aa01c1bd4e$53db6330$e58c84d5@skullsplitter>

Hi all,

Could everybody check the press release in his/her language and confirm that
it is OK to publish.
This way I can add the content to the website and launch that part.

Regards, Tom.




From mal@lemburg.com  Sun Feb 24 16:14:25 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 17:14:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] proposed website structure
References: <20020223141735.GB15958@vet.uu.nl> <004a01c1bd3f$73e41000$e58c84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <3C791161.20DF81AD@lemburg.com>

	http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/SiteStructure

I've added a few more tracks, changed 'Place' -> 'Location'
and added a few missing bits from the wiki contents.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Samuele Pedroni" <pedroni@inf.ethz.ch  Sun Feb 24 16:35:06 2002
From: Samuele Pedroni" <pedroni@inf.ethz.ch (Samuele Pedroni)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 17:35:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] press releases
References: <00aa01c1bd4e$53db6330$e58c84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <007301c1bd51$37d08e60$6d94fea9@newmexico>

From: Tom Deprez <tom@aragne.com>
> Hi all,
> 
> Could everybody check the press release in his/her language and confirm that
> it is OK to publish.
> This way I can add the content to the website and launch that part.
> 

I looked at the italian version, looks fine.

I have read also the french and german ones,
while the italian and german ones are translation 
of the english press release, the french one
is a bit different, says more things and misses
some other, is this supposed to be so ?

regards, Samuele Pedroni.



From nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org  Sun Feb 24 17:25:01 2002
From: nicolas.pettiaux@openbe.org (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 18:25:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] press releases
In-Reply-To: <007301c1bd51$37d08e60$6d94fea9@newmexico>
References: <00aa01c1bd4e$53db6330$e58c84d5@skullsplitter> <007301c1bd51$37d08e60$6d94fea9@newmexico>
Message-ID: <E16f2OU-000476-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net>

Le Dimanche 24 F=E9vrier 2002 17:35, Samuele Pedroni a =E9crit :
> I have read also the french and german ones,
> while the italian and german ones are translation
> of the english press release, the french one
> is a bit different, says more things and misses
> some other, is this supposed to be so ?

I suppose the French one is an old translation. I have no time to revise =
it=20
personnally till Tuesday, but there are many French speaking people on th=
e=20
list who could do that sooner.

Regards,

Nicolas

--=20
Nicolas Pettiaux
Avenue du P=E9rou 29
B-1000 Brussels


From all@123piano.com  Sun Feb 24 20:29:15 2002
From: all@123piano.com (Philippe Jadin)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 21:29:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] europython web developers
References: <01de01c1bc5c$f700ea50$a88d84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <3C794D1B.9050907@123piano.com>

Tom Deprez wrote:

>Home
>   Introduction
>   Press-Release
>Place
>    Map
>    How to get there
>    Transport means
>    Pleasure
>Registration
>Submissions
>    (of papers, tutorials, code)
>Conference Track
>    Time Table
>    Python Track
>    Zope Track
>    Tutorials
>    BoF
>    Code contents
>Hotel Information
>Conference Committee
>    Legal body
>    Contact Persons
>Sponsors
>    How to sponsor
>    Different Sponsors
>
>Please, give some feedback
>
Maybe also a news page, with the latest news entries shown on the front page

>
>What about the different languages? How will we handle this? eg the
>Press-Releases
>Should we have to make the site full multi-langual? I think English is good
>enough for most of the site.
>
we could use some naming scheme, like content_en, content_fr , 
content_de (or use some "language" property), then a python script would 
give the available language for the current page, and the user could 
choose it's prefered languages ?

or we could do it the right way and use some products that handle 
internationalization? It's probably not worth spending too much time 
though, because...

>Do we even have the manpower to make it fully multi-langual?
>
I don't know :)

>Regards, Tom.
>

Philippe



From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Sun Feb 24 21:16:26 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:16:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] europython web developers
References: <01de01c1bc5c$f700ea50$a88d84d5@skullsplitter> <3C794D1B.9050907@123piano.com>
Message-ID: <01d501c1bd79$79b91630$e58c84d5@skullsplitter>

> Maybe also a news page, with the latest news entries shown on the front
page

Correct, that one we forgot.

Thanks, Tom.





From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Sun Feb 24 21:23:15 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:23:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference Registration
References: <LKENLBBMDHMKBECHIAIAOEJKCEAA.andy@reportlab.com>
Message-ID: <01d601c1bd79$7cdfd1a0$e58c84d5@skullsplitter>

Interesting.
Unfortunately I don't have any idea what we all need to make us be to use
ShareIt.
Can somebody share some information on this?

Regards, Tom.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Robinson" <andy@reportlab.com>
To: <europython@python.org>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: [EuroPython] Conference Registration


> Le Dimanche 24 Février 2002 14:52, M.-A. Lemburg a écrit :
> > I'd suggest to use services such as PayPal.com and ShareIT.com
> > for dealing with the money side of the registration. I've been
> > using ShareIT for quite a while now and they provide great service
> > at low fees.
>
> Very good idea that I support fully

Me too.  Marc-Andrew told me about ShareIt, ReportLab uses it,
and the fees are lower than any other online payment service
I have seen.  They are European too.


- Andy Robinson



_______________________________________________
EuroPython mailing list
EuroPython@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython





From mal@lemburg.com  Sun Feb 24 21:55:28 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 22:55:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference Registration
References: <LKENLBBMDHMKBECHIAIAOEJKCEAA.andy@reportlab.com> <01d601c1bd79$7cdfd1a0$e58c84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <3C796150.1FAC763B@lemburg.com>

Tom Deprez wrote:
> 
> Interesting.
> Unfortunately I don't have any idea what we all need to make us be to use
> ShareIt.
> Can somebody share some information on this?

All we have to do is sign up to the service and create a
few products for the various fees. See http://www.shareit.com/
for details.
 
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Mon Feb 25 07:28:38 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:28:38 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Conference Registration
In-Reply-To: <3C796150.1FAC763B@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKELDDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

I looked at it, looks good.

Does anyone have a active account there? You can get "something" (money?)
for making a new customer (like a "tell-a-friend"-gift)...

Andrew



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Mon Feb 25 07:32:42 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 08:32:42 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] press releases : German press release
In-Reply-To: <00aa01c1bd4e$53db6330$e58c84d5@skullsplitter>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOELDDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

>From my side the German one is o.k.
There has been some discussions about the award Guido has won, but I cannot
see this in the English version, so the German version is up-to-date.

Andrew





From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 25 10:00:05 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 11:00:05 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] Conference Registration
References: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPKELDDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>
Message-ID: <3C7A0B25.18BDF46C@lemburg.com>

Andrew Smart wrote:
> 
> I looked at it, looks good.
> 
> Does anyone have a active account there? You can get "something" (money?)
> for making a new customer (like a "tell-a-friend"-gift)...

The gifts they offer don't look too attractive for EuroPython
(or does someone need a CD wallet ?-).

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Mon Feb 25 12:07:51 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:07:51 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] europython web developers
In-Reply-To: <20020223140713.GA15958@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251306310.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> > What about the different languages? How will we handle this? eg the
> > Press-Releases
> > Should we have to make the site full multi-langual? I think English is good
> > enough for most of the site.
> 
> Let's start out in English, and if people become very motivated to make
> it multilingual they can lend a hand. We should provide the press release
> in multiple languages though, but that's simple enough to accomplish.

Be sure that part of the site will be translated into french :-)

If you could facilitate that with its structure, it would be nice. We're
Europe, not US, we have tons of nice different languages :-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Mon Feb 25 12:59:18 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 13:59:18 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] paper/tutorial submission form
In-Reply-To: <20020223142237.GC15958@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251357000.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> I expect there to be some discussion about missing fields, perhaps
> superfluous fields. Also I'd like to have some discussion about duration;
> do we want 90 minute conference sessions? Do we want 3 hour and even 6
> hour tutorials, or would something like 1.5 hour up to 3 hour be more
> suitable? Also I'm not sure what 'other:paper' means and such. :)

IMHO, 1.5 and 3 hours is fine. 3 hours is already long. If you can't say
what needs being said in 3 hours, you won't in 6 for you'll need two or
three days...

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Mon Feb 25 13:01:46 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:01:46 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] French Press Release
In-Reply-To: <20020222233248.B22525@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251400580.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> > Could the person that translated the press release into french tell me
> > whether it is ready yet or not and what I could do to help ? I would like
> > to start sending it today...
> 
> I did translate the first version.
> Didn't you send me a mail saying that you would do it this time ?

You asked for volunteers to proof-read your translation, not to translate.

Never mind I'll do it and post here when done.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Mon Feb 25 13:12:21 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:12:21 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
In-Reply-To: <20020223130731.GD15831@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251404510.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> If there's a positive balance, use that to start up a EuroPython organization
> which can then move on to organizing EuroPython 2003. Agreed.
> 
> If there's a negative balance, we would of course love to make up for
> it and have it reach zero, but perhaps we should have somekind of clearer
> mechanism for this in place. This is the inherent risk basically of not
> having a EuroPython organization but using P3B. If we can get the budget
> group to take care of what happens with the money we should be able to
> avoid this scenario. As this might become very very messy with blame
> going both ways ('shouldn't have used the budget to fund the come-back of
> the Guido Dancers!' 'ah, but what about the woman in the cake then huh?', 
> etc)

As usual, it's better to prevent problems than to deal with them when they
arise.

If everyone votes for using P3B, then fine. P3B people are indeed very
nice to offer to take the burden on their shoulders. But I would vote for
"let's make a specific europython org and use P3B if we need a legal body
in the meantime".

When it comes down to money, you always get problems unless stating all
the rules was the first thing you did (and even then). Nice'n cool hackers
or not. That's human behavior, nothing new about it. Let's hope for the
better and prepare for the worst.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Mon Feb 25 13:13:11 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:13:11 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] europython web developers
In-Reply-To: <3C794D1B.9050907@123piano.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251412590.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Maybe also a news page, with the latest news entries shown on the front page

RSS rules !

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 25 13:17:40 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 14:17:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Track Length (paper/tutorial submission form)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251357000.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <3C7A3974.EB7ADA7D@lemburg.com>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> 
> > I expect there to be some discussion about missing fields, perhaps
> > superfluous fields. Also I'd like to have some discussion about duration;
> > do we want 90 minute conference sessions? Do we want 3 hour and even 6
> > hour tutorials, or would something like 1.5 hour up to 3 hour be more
> > suitable? Also I'm not sure what 'other:paper' means and such. :)
> 
> IMHO, 1.5 and 3 hours is fine. 3 hours is already long. If you can't say
> what needs being said in 3 hours, you won't in 6 for you'll need two or
> three days...

Not sure whether we're talking about the same thing, but I would
be interested in how long an AM or PM session is in terms
of hours and minutes.

For the business track we are planing 30 minute talks + 10 minutes
for discussion each. That'll amount in a 4 hours session with
6 talks or 9:00 am - 13:00 am.

At what time should we plan lunch and how much time do we have
to reserve for it ? The talks should probably start at 9:00 am...
but at what time do we have to leave CEME ?

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 25 14:06:24 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 15:06:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
References: <20020221190002.GA2077@aragne.com> <3C754AF1.4040904@123piano.com> <E16eLMw-0001rk-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <20020223020520.B24081@carolo.net> <20020223130731.GD15831@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C7A44E0.A4EE428@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Denis wrote:
> [snip]
> > After the event, if the account has a positive balance, you'll decide
> > what we should do with the extra : give it to a new EuroPython structure
> > to have some funds to start working on EuroPython 2003 (in any other
> > country), or spend it in any way you want for Python glory.
> >
> > If the account has a negative balance (it shouldn't happen if we act as
> > "bons p?res de famille") I hope you would help me to reach the zero
> > level too.
> 
> Cool, answers on the list already; see my points in another thread.
> 
> If there's a positive balance, use that to start up a EuroPython organization
> which can then move on to organizing EuroPython 2003. Agreed.
> 
> If there's a negative balance, we would of course love to make up for
> it and have it reach zero, but perhaps we should have somekind of clearer
> mechanism for this in place. This is the inherent risk basically of not
> having a EuroPython organization but using P3B. If we can get the budget
> group to take care of what happens with the money we should be able to
> avoid this scenario. As this might become very very messy with blame
> going both ways ('shouldn't have used the budget to fund the come-back of
> the Guido Dancers!' 'ah, but what about the woman in the cake then huh?',
> etc)

Just to make things more transparent, I'd suggest to open up
a separate bank account for all the EuroPython acitivites within
P3B.

Now if everybody feels comfortable with this setup, I suppose
we'll need some legally binding documents from P3B which
cover the points mentioned by Martijn in his other posting
on the subject.

For simplicity, I'd suggest to have these docs sent to
Martijn (or someone else in the team) who can then scan them 
and put them as PDFs on the web-site as reference. Would
that be OK with everyone ?

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From lac@strakt.com  Mon Feb 25 15:35:49 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 16:35:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
In-Reply-To: Message from "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com>
 of "Mon, 25 Feb 2002 15:06:24 +0100." <3C7A44E0.A4EE428@lemburg.com>
References: <20020221190002.GA2077@aragne.com> <3C754AF1.4040904@123piano.com> <E16eLMw-0001rk-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <20020223020520.B24081@carolo.net> <20020223130731.GD15831@vet.uu.nl>  <3C7A44E0.A4EE428@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <200202251535.g1PFZntB012212@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> Marc-Andre Lemburg:
> 
> For simplicity, I'd suggest to have these docs sent to
> Martijn (or someone else in the team) who can then scan them 
> and put them as PDFs on the web-site as reference. Would
> that be OK with everyone ?
> 

Sounds good to me.

Laura Creighton


From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Mon Feb 25 16:27:04 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:27:04 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] French Press Release [WebTeam TODO]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251725020.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

Dear WebTeam,

You'll find the french press release at
http://www.europython.org/draftwiki/PressReleaseFrench

It is done. Please add it to the europython.org website and I will
announce it and link to it.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Mon Feb 25 16:57:03 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 17:57:03 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] French Press Release [WebTeam TODO]
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251725020.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251755110.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

All,

I sent the press release to french sites. Later I will add links to
announces that get published.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de  Mon Feb 25 19:08:19 2002
From: Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de (Andrew Smart)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 20:08:19 +0100
Subject: AW: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
In-Reply-To: <200202251535.g1PFZntB012212@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <MOEBICACDCJPGHPPNAOPOELGDAAA.Andrew.Smart@smart-knowhow.de>

> Auftrag von Laura Creighton
> > Marc-Andre Lemburg:
> > 
> > For simplicity, I'd suggest to have these docs sent to
> > Martijn (or someone else in the team) who can then scan them 
> > and put them as PDFs on the web-site as reference. Would
> > that be OK with everyone ?
> > 
> 
> Sounds good to me.
> 
For me also...



From rey@tucana.harvard.edu  Mon Feb 25 20:09:45 2002
From: rey@tucana.harvard.edu (Vicente Rey Bakaikoa)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 15:09:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [EuroPython] Translation to Spanish
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202251506170.25081-100000@tucana.harvard.edu>

I can contribute to the event with the translation
into Spanish of web pages and other documents.

to start with I have translated the main
europython.org page. Whoever is in charge of
the web pages, please contact me if interested.

Vicente                                __o
                                       \<,
_____________________________________()/ ()___________________

 Vicente REY BAKAIKOA
 Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
 60, Garden St.           o__  
 Cambridge, MA 02139      ,>/   
______USA________________() \()________________________________



From js@aixtraware.de  Mon Feb 25 20:48:20 2002
From: js@aixtraware.de (Joachim Schmitz)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 21:48:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroZope and EuroPython
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251404510.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251404510.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <19920000.1014670100@js>

Hi,

I followed the discussion about the EuroPython organisation etc. and I want =

to repeat my offer to utilize the EuroZope e.V. as an intermediate legal=20
body.

The EuroZope has bylaws, is registered, has a bank account with even money=20
in it, has the possibility to accept online payments.

The board of directors could decide to setup a special interest group for=20
the conference. Everybody can become a member of EuroZope. The=20
membershipfee is 60,- EUR per year though. Members mainly/only interested=20
in Python could specify that, when they join.

As Martijn pointed out, we want to hold our first general assembly during=20
the conference, than the EuroPython only members can decide, to split and=20
found their own organisation, if they wish.

Also the EuroZope e.V. will have a stand on the CeBit in Hannover, we could =

use that to promote the conference and to find sponsors for the conference.

just my 2 cents

Joachim


CeBit  13.3. - 20.3.2002 Hall 6, F68/595
----------------------------------------------------------
EuroZope e.V.  H=FCsgenstr. 33a  D-52457 Aldenhoven  Germany
phone: +49-2464-8851                fax  : +49-2464-905163
----------------------------------------------------------
Key fingerprint =3D DA10 CC82 62F8 1DBB 39A1  1EDC 725B 3317 A8D7 C3A6
key server: http://germany.keyserver.net/en/



From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 25 21:46:40 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:46:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroZope and EuroPython
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251404510.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <19920000.1014670100@js>
Message-ID: <3C7AB0C0.DE5FE63B@lemburg.com>

Joachim Schmitz wrote:
> 
> I followed the discussion about the EuroPython organisation etc. and I want
> to repeat my offer to utilize the EuroZope e.V. as an intermediate legal
> body.
> 
> The EuroZope has bylaws, is registered, has a bank account with even money
> in it, has the possibility to accept online payments.

That's all very nice, but there are some important points we
have to pay attention to:

* Charleroi will most probably need a *Belgium* non-profit org
  in order to "fund" the location. "non-profit" doesn't work
  across EU countries.

* Does EuroZope even have official non-profit status ?

Thanks for the offer, but I'd rather stick with P3B so that
we don't find ourselves sitting in some Charleroi brasserie 
instead of CEME :-)

BTW, your bylaws are not downloadable (the link on the 
web-site produces random garble).

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From spirou@colnet.carolo.net  Mon Feb 25 21:49:20 2002
From: spirou@colnet.carolo.net (Denis)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:49:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroZope and EuroPython
In-Reply-To: <19920000.1014670100@js>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251404510.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <19920000.1014670100@js>
Message-ID: <20020225224920.I28871@carolo.net>

Le Mon, Feb 25, 2002 at 09:48:20PM +0100, Joachim Schmitz pianota:
> Hi,
> 
> I followed the discussion about the EuroPython organisation etc. and I want 
> to repeat my offer to utilize the EuroZope e.V. as an intermediate legal 
> body.
> 
> The EuroZope has [...] a bank account with even money in it, has the
> possibility to accept online payments.

Indeed, you have advantages versus P3B.

> The board of directors could decide to setup a special interest group for 
> the conference. Everybody can become a member of EuroZope. The 
> membershipfee is 60,- EUR per year though. Members mainly/only interested 
> in Python could specify that, when they join.
> 
> As Martijn pointed out, we want to hold our first general assembly during 
> the conference, than the EuroPython only members can decide, to split and 
> found their own organisation, if they wish.

It could be the right solution.

I've had a mail exchange with Daniel Quintart, the lawyer (or is it
"jurist" ?) I told you about. He says there is a AISBL structure too :
an ASBL as was described before (so, non-profit, etc.), but i18n
version.

He's subcribed to this list. Perhaps he will agree to give us a good
overview.

A+

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 25 21:56:15 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:56:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251404510.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
References: <20020223130731.GD15831@vet.uu.nl> <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251404510.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20020225215615.GA22968@vet.uu.nl>

Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> When it comes down to money, you always get problems unless stating all
> the rules was the first thing you did (and even then). Nice'n cool hackers
> or not. That's human behavior, nothing new about it. Let's hope for the
> better and prepare for the worst.

Agreed, which is why I was making the fuss about the whole issue in the
first place. :)

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Mon Feb 25 21:57:59 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 22:57:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
In-Reply-To: <200202251535.g1PFZntB012212@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <20020221190002.GA2077@aragne.com> <3C754AF1.4040904@123piano.com> <E16eLMw-0001rk-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <20020223020520.B24081@carolo.net> <20020223130731.GD15831@vet.uu.nl> <3C7A44E0.A4EE428@lemburg.com> <200202251535.g1PFZntB012212@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020225215759.GB22968@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> > Marc-Andre Lemburg:
> > 
> > For simplicity, I'd suggest to have these docs sent to
> > Martijn (or someone else in the team) who can then scan them 
> > and put them as PDFs on the web-site as reference. Would
> > that be OK with everyone ?
> 
> Sounds good to me.

I don't have a scanner here, so that means I'd have to go scavenge
for a scanner I can use.

Also I'm not a lawyer so I'm not sure how to determine
legal-bindingness. Then again, it'd be better than nothing.

Regards,

Martijn



From mal@lemburg.com  Mon Feb 25 22:11:02 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2002 23:11:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
References: <20020221190002.GA2077@aragne.com> <3C754AF1.4040904@123piano.com> <E16eLMw-0001rk-00@bigglesworth.mail.be.easynet.net> <20020223020520.B24081@carolo.net> <20020223130731.GD15831@vet.uu.nl> <3C7A44E0.A4EE428@lemburg.com> <200202251535.g1PFZntB012212@ratthing-b246.strakt.com> <20020225215759.GB22968@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C7AB676.4DF6895D@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Laura Creighton wrote:
> > > Marc-Andre Lemburg:
> > >
> > > For simplicity, I'd suggest to have these docs sent to
> > > Martijn (or someone else in the team) who can then scan them
> > > and put them as PDFs on the web-site as reference. Would
> > > that be OK with everyone ?
> >
> > Sounds good to me.
> 
> I don't have a scanner here, so that means I'd have to go scavenge
> for a scanner I can use.
> 
> Also I'm not a lawyer so I'm not sure how to determine
> legal-bindingness. Then again, it'd be better than nothing.

This is really just intended to give everybody a warm fuzzy 
feeling. 

I'd also suggest to get someone from the team
(other than Denis) onto the P3B board -- at least until after 
the conference -- and a few others in as members.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Mon Feb 25 23:38:46 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 00:38:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Translation to Spanish
References: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0202251506170.25081-100000@tucana.harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <010601c1be56$ad7f23a0$5d8c84d5@skullsplitter>

Yes, 

Please, send me the translated version.

Regards, Tom.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vicente Rey Bakaikoa" <rey@tucana.harvard.edu>
To: <europython@python.org>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 9:09 PM
Subject: [EuroPython] Translation to Spanish


> 
> I can contribute to the event with the translation
> into Spanish of web pages and other documents.
> 
> to start with I have translated the main
> europython.org page. Whoever is in charge of
> the web pages, please contact me if interested.
> 
> Vicente                                __o
>                                        \<,
> _____________________________________()/ ()___________________
> 
>  Vicente REY BAKAIKOA
>  Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
>  60, Garden St.           o__  
>  Cambridge, MA 02139      ,>/   
> ______USA________________() \()________________________________
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Mon Feb 25 23:47:46 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 00:47:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] French Press Release [WebTeam TODO]
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251725020.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <010d01c1be56$df6752c0$5d8c84d5@skullsplitter>

Thanks for the French press-release. I've added it to the EuroPython.org
website.
Sorry, I can only update this site during my free time. This way, it can
take some time before it is updated. Sorry for this.

Regards, Tom.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nicolas Chauvat" <Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr>
To: <europython@python.org>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2002 5:27 PM
Subject: [EuroPython] French Press Release [WebTeam TODO]


Dear WebTeam,

You'll find the french press release at
http://www.europython.org/draftwiki/PressReleaseFrench

It is done. Please add it to the europython.org website and I will
announce it and link to it.

Thanks in advance.

--
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris
(France)


_______________________________________________
EuroPython mailing list
EuroPython@python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython





From Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr  Tue Feb 26 12:25:23 2002
From: Nicolas.Chauvat@logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 13:25:23 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
In-Reply-To: <20020225215615.GA22968@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202261324550.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>

> Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> > When it comes down to money, you always get problems unless stating all
> > the rules was the first thing you did (and even then). Nice'n cool hackers
> > or not. That's human behavior, nothing new about it. Let's hope for the
> > better and prepare for the worst.
> 
> Agreed, which is why I was making the fuss about the whole issue in the
> first place. :)

I know and I was strongly agreeing with you :-)

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

http://www.logilab.com - "Mais où est donc Ornicar ?" - LOGILAB, Paris (France)



From mal@lemburg.com  Tue Feb 26 13:40:01 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2002 14:40:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202261324550.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <3C7B9031.B02900F3@lemburg.com>

Are we read to get the ball rolling then ?

Here are some action bullets:

* Denis should publish the bylaws for everybody to read

* Denis will have to sign an agreement between him
  and the conference team c/o Martijn Faassen, which
  includes all the points we have discussed here
  (and which Martijn had summarized in his mail),
  and send it to Martijn.

* Martijn will then verify the agreement, scan it
  and post it to the web-site

* The GeneralCommittee members then sign up as members
  for P3B (Denis is already signed up, so that leaves
  Martijn and Nicolas); others in the conference team
  may also wish to do so (e.g. people from the budget
  team).

* P3B announces the official responsibility for the
  conference in this forum and on its web-page. The
  announcement should also declare a treasurer
  who is responsible for the financial actions regarding
  P3B's involvement in the conference organization.
  
* P3B sets up a new bank account for conference related
  payments.

* P3B sets up a ShareIT account and a PayPal account.

* The budget team then takes over the rest of the 
  financial business.

I should probably put this list on the wiki... there
are probably a few actions missing.

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Wed Feb 27 11:41:48 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 12:41:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Track Length (paper/tutorial submission form)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251357000.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7A3974.EB7ADA7D@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <3C7CC5FC.2773FEE7@lemburg.com>

Any comments on this ?

"M.-A. Lemburg" wrote:
> 
> Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> >
> > > I expect there to be some discussion about missing fields, perhaps
> > > superfluous fields. Also I'd like to have some discussion about duration;
> > > do we want 90 minute conference sessions? Do we want 3 hour and even 6
> > > hour tutorials, or would something like 1.5 hour up to 3 hour be more
> > > suitable? Also I'm not sure what 'other:paper' means and such. :)
> >
> > IMHO, 1.5 and 3 hours is fine. 3 hours is already long. If you can't say
> > what needs being said in 3 hours, you won't in 6 for you'll need two or
> > three days...
> 
> Not sure whether we're talking about the same thing, but I would
> be interested in how long an AM or PM session is in terms
> of hours and minutes.
> 
> For the business track we are planing 30 minute talks + 10 minutes
> for discussion each. That'll amount in a 4 hours session with
> 6 talks or 9:00 am - 13:00 am.
> 
> At what time should we plan lunch and how much time do we have
> to reserve for it ? The talks should probably start at 9:00 am...
> but at what time do we have to leave CEME ?

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From lac@strakt.com  Wed Feb 27 12:45:49 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 13:45:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] From Guido, forwarded from the Marketting Python mailing list
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We are discussing how to market python there.  World domination: how to
get it.  There was a call for ideas.  I posted my The idea for the
Sprint that Andrew Smart and I wrote up in the discussion of the
Business Track.  This happened.

Laura Creighton


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To: Laura Creighton <lac@strakt.com>
cc: Lucio Torre <lucio@movilogic.com>, marketing-python@wingide.com
Subject: Re: [marketing-python] The Puppy Dog Sell
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> This is an idea I proposed for the business track at Europython.
> 
> I wonder if we could have a Sprint, but a Sprint with a difference.
> Invite business people to come with small problems they would like
> fixed.  A few hours worth of prgramming for a team of 4 people, say.
> They announce their problem to the team, who first gets to see it on
> site.  They then develop, on the spot, a python-using Open Source
> solution.  Gluing together other open sourced things, is, of course,
> ok.  The full blown idea involves inviting a member of the Press to be
> a member of each team.  Many journalists love to write about themselves.
> 
> Failing would be bad.  Success would be sweet.  In any case we would 
> not be forgotten....we might just wish we could.  So far my mailbox
> is not filling with Europython would-be attendees who think this is
> a great idea.

Here's my concern.  I get approached a lot by people who have a very
practical problem that I can't solve in Python.  E.g. they want to
connect their bar code scanner to their database.  It may require very
little coding, but finding out how to do it would be a nightmare,
because it's all about interfacing to existing closed apps that may
require reverse engineering or at the very least writing low-level
drivers before you can do anything with them.  Most business people
don't know enough about computers to distinguish these "messy"
problems from the computatilnally interesting ones.  Maybe advance
screening of the projects might solve this, though.  I'll be there if
you pull it off.

--Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)

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From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 27 22:39:48 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:39:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] From Guido, forwarded from the Marketting Python mailing list
In-Reply-To: <200202271245.g1RCjotB025951@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <200202271245.g1RCjotB025951@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20020227223948.GA32295@vet.uu.nl>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> We are discussing how to market python there.  World domination: how to
> get it.  There was a call for ideas.  I posted my The idea for the
> Sprint that Andrew Smart and I wrote up in the discussion of the
> Business Track.  This happened.

Okay, so let's do some advance screening then.

So, if we're to organize this we need:
 
  * a group of people willing to organize this. I'm volunteering Laura. :)

  * a group of hackers who'll participate

  * some computers somewhere, preferably with net access

  * set a time

  * make sure we don't call it 'sprint', as I think that's in fact not
    the right term and may be confused with the Zope3 sprint I also hope
    will happen around the conference. 'Mercenary Coders'? :) 

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 27 22:42:24 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:42:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
In-Reply-To: <3C7B9031.B02900F3@lemburg.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202261324550.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7B9031.B02900F3@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020227224224.GB32295@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Are we read to get the ball rolling then ?

Sure, I'm ready. :)

> Here are some action bullets:
[snip snip]

> * P3B sets up a new bank account for conference related
>   payments.

If P3B's current bank account is empty and is sure to remain 
empty until the conference, we could use that one. If there's 
any chance for confusion however, a separate account would be
preferred.

> * P3B sets up a ShareIT account and a PayPal account.

  * The website is modified so people are guided to those.

> * The budget team then takes over the rest of the 
>   financial business.
> 
> I should probably put this list on the wiki... there
> are probably a few actions missing.

Go put it on the wiki, and then we'll try to keep track of the progress
on this front.

Regards,

Martijn
  


From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 27 22:44:18 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:44:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Track Length (paper/tutorial submission form)
In-Reply-To: <3C7CC5FC.2773FEE7@lemburg.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251357000.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7A3974.EB7ADA7D@lemburg.com> <3C7CC5FC.2773FEE7@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <20020227224418.GC32295@vet.uu.nl>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Any comments on this ?

> > > IMHO, 1.5 and 3 hours is fine. 3 hours is already long. If you can't say
> > > what needs being said in 3 hours, you won't in 6 for you'll need two or
> > > three days...
> > 
> > Not sure whether we're talking about the same thing, but I would
> > be interested in how long an AM or PM session is in terms
> > of hours and minutes.

Yup, I'd like to know too. :)

> > For the business track we are planing 30 minute talks + 10 minutes
> > for discussion each. That'll amount in a 4 hours session with
> > 6 talks or 9:00 am - 13:00 am.

Sounds fine to me.

> > 
> > At what time should we plan lunch and how much time do we have
> > to reserve for it ?

This one is for Denis.

> > The talks should probably start at 9:00 am...

Agreed.

> > but at what time do we have to leave CEME ?

Denis again.

Regards,

Martijn



From faassen@vet.uu.nl  Wed Feb 27 22:50:19 2002
From: faassen@vet.uu.nl (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:50:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] call for papers todo
Message-ID: <20020227225019.GD32295@vet.uu.nl>

Hi there,

We need to do a bunch of things before we can put out a call for papers:

  * determine the length of the individual talks. The ones right now are too 
    long, we need shorter ones. They don't have to be completely correct,
    but we need to be in the right ballpark. 
    (note that how many talks we can accomodate is another issue we can
     work out independent from the call for papers)

  * determine what tracks there are. Doesn't have to be set in stone, but
    would be nice to have in the form.

  * work out the text for the call for papers.

  * we probably want to contact some people for talks ourselves (that is,
    people organizing tracks/general committee wants to). Do we need
    a procedure for this or can we just mail people and ask them to
    submit a talk?
 
  * do the tech bit.

Note that keynote talks and such I don't think people should be able to
apply for. We should come up with some idea for keynotes ourselves (besides
Guido's). Perhaps some of us would like to do somekind of EuroPython pep-talk,
or whatnot.

Regards,

Martijn



From denis@aragne.com  Thu Feb 28 03:08:45 2002
From: denis@aragne.com (Denis =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E8re?=)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 04:08:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
In-Reply-To: <20020227224224.GB32295@vet.uu.nl>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202261324550.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7B9031.B02900F3@lemburg.com> <20020227224224.GB32295@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020228040845.E21488@carolo.net>

Le Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 11:42:24PM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > Are we read to get the ball rolling then ?
>=20
> Sure, I'm ready. :)

Happy man ! I wish I could say the same words.

Fran=E7ois (a P3B member) is working on putting the bylaws online.
Other points will follow.

For me, I have no much time left for those pleasures, nowadays.
I have to struggle a lot to have our local authorities defining which
amount of help they will offer. I've not yet had the least written
confirmation up to now, though they have a "renting-option" (?) on the
CEME at those dates. The option is valid until march 22.

Don't forget they don't know Python. They don't quite understand in
which game they are playing. So they keep stepping forward and backward.
The Mayor is the one who will say the last word, but he's as difficult
to reach as God ! I've been hanging on the telephone during more than 5
hours, today again, and we're progressing at a snail pace.

My problem is they keep asking me :

- How many visitors will we have ?
 Let's remember the main auditorium has 280 seats only, but I've been
 told it could be extended up to 400 seats by some magic trick. What if
 we have 500 visitors ? The only factual (and quite impressive) thing
 is that we're 100 subcribed people to the organisation mailing-list.=20
 Will everyone attend and bring at least 4 visitors whith him ?
=20
- What is the program ?
 Will there be really accessible presentation for simple human beings ?
 Will the the presentations be translated ?
 Why would it be interresting for local population ?

- How many rooms and which infrastructure will we need ?
 Will there be hands-on tutorials ?
 How many machines ?
 What for a network do we need ?

- Which private sponsors will we have ?
 But the prospected sponsors want answers to the same questions.
=20
- What will be the entrance fee ?
 If we're making benefits, will they get something back ?
=20
- ... and such things.

I've no precise answers to give.=20

And from the sponsors point of view, now. I've had a meeting with
a potential sponsor that is a good sample. They could :
- pay for a booth during the conference=20
 (how much is it exactly ?)
- provide us with telephone support, secretary work and so on
 (is the extra-work taken into account for their bill ?)
- send for us a written invitation to 4000 SME and schools
but they want to be sure Charleroi is really fully supporting the
conference, thay want to know if there will be an Internet based
broadcasting, they want to know the answers to the same questions
the Town is asking, ...

Could we have pre-registration forms (speakers, sponsors and visitors)
where good-will people could give us as much information as possible
to try to find answers to these questions ?
Tom will be in our office tomorrow afternoon and we'll discuss the
point since it's a web related matter and he's in the web team.

And those mails are so long to write ! ;-)

One thing is sure : I'm making a terrible fuss here with our=20
conference. Everyone will have heard about Python in the whole
region. :-)

Good night.

Denis

--=20
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org=20
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From denis@aragne.com  Thu Feb 28 03:19:56 2002
From: denis@aragne.com (Denis =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E8re?=)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 04:19:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Track Length (paper/tutorial submission form)
In-Reply-To: <20020227224418.GC32295@vet.uu.nl>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251357000.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7A3974.EB7ADA7D@lemburg.com> <3C7CC5FC.2773FEE7@lemburg.com> <20020227224418.GC32295@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <20020228041956.F21488@carolo.net>

Le Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 11:44:18PM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > > At what time should we plan lunch and how much time do we have
> > > to reserve for it ?
> 
> This one is for Denis.

Good question.
Will we want sandwiches, buffet, warm restaurant-like meal ?
 
> > > but at what time do we have to leave CEME ?

It shouldn't be a problem apart from Friday pm. 
I've been attending another conference there and we left after 18:00.
I'm sure you don't want to spend the whole evening there (?), so it
should be OK.

Denis

-- 
Denis FRERE
P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org 
Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com


From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 28 08:37:19 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 09:37:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202261324550.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7B9031.B02900F3@lemburg.com> <20020227224224.GB32295@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C7DEC3F.25C0344@lemburg.com>

FYI, I've placed the TODO list in the wiki at:

	http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/LegalBody/

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
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From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 28 08:42:57 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 09:42:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Track Length (paper/tutorial submission form)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251357000.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7A3974.EB7ADA7D@lemburg.com> <3C7CC5FC.2773FEE7@lemburg.com> <20020227224418.GC32295@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C7DED91.5D48010E@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> > > Not sure whether we're talking about the same thing, but I would
> > > be interested in how long an AM or PM session is in terms
> > > of hours and minutes.
> 
> Yup, I'd like to know too. :)
> 
> > > For the business track we are planing 30 minute talks + 10 minutes
> > > for discussion each. That'll amount in a 4 hours session with
> > > 6 talks or 9:00 am - 13:00 am.
> 
> Sounds fine to me.

I've edited these times into the time table:

	http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/ConferenceTimetable/

> > >
> > > At what time should we plan lunch and how much time do we have
> > > to reserve for it ?
> 
> This one is for Denis.

I've reserved one hour for lunch -- should be enough, I guess.
If not we can extend it for half an hour and stay in CEME
until 18:30 if that's possible (people will probably still
chat until 19:00 - 19:30 then).

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 28 09:00:39 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:00:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202261324550.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7B9031.B02900F3@lemburg.com> <20020227224224.GB32295@vet.uu.nl> <20020228040845.E21488@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <3C7DF1B7.1B77FE3B@lemburg.com>

Denis Fr=E8re wrote:
>=20
> Le Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 11:42:24PM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> > M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > > Are we read to get the ball rolling then ?
> >
> > Sure, I'm ready. :)
>=20
> Happy man ! I wish I could say the same words.

Great work, though, Denis !
=20
> Fran=E7ois (a P3B member) is working on putting the bylaws online.
> Other points will follow.

Great. Please see the wiki for the complete TODO list:

	http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/LegalBody
=20
> For me, I have no much time left for those pleasures, nowadays.
> I have to struggle a lot to have our local authorities defining which
> amount of help they will offer. I've not yet had the least written
> confirmation up to now, though they have a "renting-option" (?) on the
> CEME at those dates. The option is valid until march 22.

Why not make use of that option until we get full approval of
the Charleroi support ?! Now that we have settled the legal
issues I think we can move forward with confidence.
=20
> Don't forget they don't know Python. They don't quite understand in
> which game they are playing. So they keep stepping forward and backward.
> The Mayor is the one who will say the last word, but he's as difficult
> to reach as God ! I've been hanging on the telephone during more than 5
> hours, today again, and we're progressing at a snail pace.
>=20
> My problem is they keep asking me :
>=20
> - How many visitors will we have ?
>  Let's remember the main auditorium has 280 seats only, but I've been
>  told it could be extended up to 400 seats by some magic trick. What if
>  we have 500 visitors ? The only factual (and quite impressive) thing
>  is that we're 100 subcribed people to the organisation mailing-list.
>  Will everyone attend and bring at least 4 visitors whith him ?

I'd estimate around 300 visitors. IPC conference don't have many
more either... but then, if they intend to invite half the city,
we'll have to make room for 400-500, I guess.
=20
> - What is the program ?
>  Will there be really accessible presentation for simple human beings ?

The tutorials ?!=20
Some business talks will certainly be.

>  Will the the presentations be translated ?

The business talks will be held in English.
Not sure about the tutorials. In general, I think English
should be the language of choice in most parts of the
conference.

>  Why would it be interresting for local population ?

To get to know interesting people from all other Europe and
many other parts of the world. The city could also have interest
in Python for their own IT department.
=20
> - How many rooms and which infrastructure will we need ?

At least 3 conference rooms, 1 network room with Ethernet
Internet access, coffee lounge, room for booths, poster
stands, conference signup.

>  Will there be hands-on tutorials ?
>  How many machines ?

Good question. Who is going to do the tutorials ?

>  What for a network do we need ?

10BaseT-Ethernet
=20
> - Which private sponsors will we have ?
>  But the prospected sponsors want answers to the same questions.
>=20
> - What will be the entrance fee ?

Depends on the budget... BudgetTeam ?=20

I suppose we go for something like EUR 250 for the=20
whole conference, or EUR 100 per day. Students pay half.

That's cheap for a conference ! (Less is of course better,
but I doubt the budget will provide for this)

>  If we're making benefits, will they get something back ?

We won't make any money: P3B is non-profit. In fact,
it is more likely we'll have to pay on top, just like
Foretec that last two or three times.
=20
> - ... and such things.
>=20
> I've no precise answers to give.
>=20
> And from the sponsors point of view, now. I've had a meeting with
> a potential sponsor that is a good sample. They could :
> - pay for a booth during the conference
>  (how much is it exactly ?)

Should be announced on:

	http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/ConferenceExhibitors

I'd say EUR 1000,00 per booth is a good ball point figure.
We might need to ask for more, though, depending on how
many booths we can have.

> - provide us with telephone support, secretary work and so on
>  (is the extra-work taken into account for their bill ?)
> - send for us a written invitation to 4000 SME and schools
> but they want to be sure Charleroi is really fully supporting the
> conference, thay want to know if there will be an Internet based
> broadcasting, they want to know the answers to the same questions
> the Town is asking, ...
>=20
> Could we have pre-registration forms (speakers, sponsors and visitors)
> where good-will people could give us as much information as possible
> to try to find answers to these questions ?
> Tom will be in our office tomorrow afternoon and we'll discuss the
> point since it's a web related matter and he's in the web team.
>=20
> And those mails are so long to write ! ;-)
>=20
> One thing is sure : I'm making a terrible fuss here with our
> conference. Everyone will have heard about Python in the whole
> region. :-)

Good work !
=20
--=20
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 28 09:02:30 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:02:30 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Track Length (paper/tutorial submission form)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251357000.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7A3974.EB7ADA7D@lemburg.com> <3C7CC5FC.2773FEE7@lemburg.com> <20020227224418.GC32295@vet.uu.nl> <20020228041956.F21488@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <3C7DF226.F5BC6A2E@lemburg.com>

Denis Fr=E8re wrote:
>=20
> Le Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 11:44:18PM +0100, Martijn Faassen pianota:
> > M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> > > > At what time should we plan lunch and how much time do we have
> > > > to reserve for it ?
> >
> > This one is for Denis.
>=20
> Good question.
> Will we want sandwiches, buffet, warm restaurant-like meal ?

Let's go for the buffet -- it's cheaper and a lot more=20
communicative :-)
=20
> > > > but at what time do we have to leave CEME ?
>=20
> It shouldn't be a problem apart from Friday pm.
> I've been attending another conference there and we left after 18:00.
> I'm sure you don't want to spend the whole evening there (?), so it
> should be OK.

Good.

--=20
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 28 09:05:58 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:05:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] call for papers todo
References: <20020227225019.GD32295@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <3C7DF2F6.1C63B7C5@lemburg.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> We need to do a bunch of things before we can put out a call for papers:

I'd add:

    * determine which tracks will present the papers (the Python track
      probably...)
 
>   * determine the length of the individual talks. The ones right now are too
>     long, we need shorter ones. They don't have to be completely correct,
>     but we need to be in the right ballpark.
>     (note that how many talks we can accomodate is another issue we can
>      work out independent from the call for papers)

For comparisons: the business track will have 30+10 minutes 
(presentation, discussion) slots for the talks. This is what most 
conferences I have attended did as well (except for the keynotes,
of course).
 
>   * determine what tracks there are. Doesn't have to be set in stone, but
>     would be nice to have in the form.
> 
>   * work out the text for the call for papers.
> 
>   * we probably want to contact some people for talks ourselves (that is,
>     people organizing tracks/general committee wants to). Do we need
>     a procedure for this or can we just mail people and ask them to
>     submit a talk?
> 
>   * do the tech bit.
> 
> Note that keynote talks and such I don't think people should be able to
> apply for. We should come up with some idea for keynotes ourselves (besides
> Guido's).  Perhaps some of us would like to do somekind of EuroPython pep-talk,
> or whatnot.

Can you put this in the wiki as well ? 

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Thu Feb 28 10:05:02 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:05:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Legal Structure
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202261324550.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7B9031.B02900F3@lemburg.com> <20020227224224.GB32295@vet.uu.nl> <20020228040845.E21488@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <00ab01c1c040$dc791fd0$798d84d5@skullsplitter>

>Could we have pre-registration forms (speakers, sponsors and visitors)where
good-will people could give us as much information as possible to try to
>find answers to these questions ? Tom will be in our office tomorrow
afternoon and we'll discuss the point since it's a web related matter and
he's in the >web team.

hehe, I wanted to discuss this too :-)

Tom.





From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Thu Feb 28 10:09:30 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:09:30 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Track Length (paper/tutorial submission form)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251357000.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7A3974.EB7ADA7D@lemburg.com> <3C7CC5FC.2773FEE7@lemburg.com> <20020227224418.GC32295@vet.uu.nl> <20020228041956.F21488@carolo.net>
Message-ID: <00ac01c1c040$df6f0740$798d84d5@skullsplitter>

> > > > At what time should we plan lunch and how much time do we have
> > > > to reserve for it ?

> Will we want sandwiches, buffet, warm restaurant-like meal ?

I think sandwhiches are the easiest and perhaps best way? When I'm at the
congress, I mostly go for a fast snack.
What happens with restaurant meals?
1) They need more preperation
2) Could be long rows of people waiting for dinner
3) all these people need a place to sit (not with sandwiches since you can
eat them everywhere you want)
....

> > > > but at what time do we have to leave CEME ?
>
> It shouldn't be a problem apart from Friday pm.  I've been attending
another conference there and we left after 18:00.
> I'm sure you don't want to spend the whole evening there (?), so it should
be OK.

Nothing that important, but I've to leave on friday afternoon. My girlfried
then gets her diploma of physician, so I don't think I still live if I'm not
at her ceremony... Pitty dow, now I probably miss the end of the 1ste
EuroPython congress.

Tom.
> Denis
>
> --
> Denis FRERE
> P3B    : Club Python(-Zope) Belge --------- http://www.p3b.org
> OS3B   : Club Open-Software(-Linux) Carolo  http://www.os3b.org
> Aragne : Python-Zope Solutions & Formations http://www.aragne.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython@python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython




From lac@strakt.com  Thu Feb 28 10:12:59 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:12:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] call for papers todo
In-Reply-To: Message from Martijn Faassen <faassen@vet.uu.nl>
 of "Wed, 27 Feb 2002 23:50:19 +0100." <20020227225019.GD32295@vet.uu.nl>
References: <20020227225019.GD32295@vet.uu.nl>
Message-ID: <200202281012.g1SACxtB028270@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

Does this mean the March 15 deadline for paper proposals has slipped?
I want to present a paper, but this month is hell for me.  I don't want
to make the time for this, bump other things, and then find out I didn't
need to start writing it until April.

Laura


From lac@strakt.com  Thu Feb 28 10:42:41 2002
From: lac@strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:42:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Track Length (paper/tutorial submission form)
In-Reply-To: Message from "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@lemburg.com>
 of "Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:02:30 +0100." <3C7DF226.F5BC6A2E@lemburg.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251357000.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7A3974.EB7ADA7D@lemburg.com> <3C7CC5FC.2773FEE7@lemburg.com> <20020227224418.GC32295@vet.uu.nl> <20020228041956.F21488@carolo.net>  <3C7DF226.F5BC6A2E@lemburg.com>
Message-ID: <200202281042.g1SAgftB028476@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

> Denis Fr=E8re wrote:
> > Good question.
> > Will we want sandwiches, buffet, warm restaurant-like meal ?

Warm restaurant-like meals for 400 people with varying dietary
restrictions is a nightmare.  I cook regularily for a conference
of about 75 people -- this is about the limit for what you can do
without hiring professional cooks, which I assume we do not want
because it is expensive.

The most important thing I know of when it comes to food is to buy
good fresh bread.  If your bread is no good then everybody hates the
food (except possibly the desert).  People can actually be happy with
nothing but fresh baked bread and hard cheeses -- they say 'it was just =

sandwiches, but it tasted good'.  If your bread is stale or simply bad
you will never hear the end of it.  How lousy the bread was at IPC 10, =

and in the US in general is _still_ a topic of conversation around
here.  The consensus is that the food at IPC 10 set new records in =

foulness, beating even Swedish state provided school lunches of 30 years =

ago, which is no mean feat.

It is better to have no wine than to run out.

Hackers, collectively drink more softdrinks than the average,
but some drink no softdrinks at all.

Laura Creighton=


From mal@lemburg.com  Thu Feb 28 11:00:41 2002
From: mal@lemburg.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 12:00:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Track Length (paper/tutorial submission form)
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0202251357000.7988-100000@aries.logilab.fr> <3C7A3974.EB7ADA7D@lemburg.com> <3C7CC5FC.2773FEE7@lemburg.com> <20020227224418.GC32295@vet.uu.nl> <20020228041956.F21488@carolo.net>  <3C7DF226.F5BC6A2E@lemburg.com> <200202281042.g1SAgftB028476@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <3C7E0DD9.B96EF359@lemburg.com>

Laura Creighton wrote:
>=20
> > Denis Fr=E8re wrote:
> > > Good question.
> > > Will we want sandwiches, buffet, warm restaurant-like meal ?
>=20
> Warm restaurant-like meals for 400 people with varying dietary
> restrictions is a nightmare.=20

I was thinking of a buffet which gets organized by some local
(not too expensive) restaurant -- I don't think anyone in the=20
team is willing to do sandwiches for 400+ people ;-)

The local team we'll just have to find a restaurant, ask them=20
about the costs per person and add this on top of the conference
price.

--=20
Marc-Andre Lemburg
CEO eGenix.com Software GmbH
______________________________________________________________________
Company & Consulting:                           http://www.egenix.com/
Python Software:                   http://www.egenix.com/files/python/


From Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com  Thu Feb 28 22:54:08 2002
From: Tom Deprez" <tom@aragne.com (Tom Deprez)
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:54:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] website
Message-ID: <022101c1c0aa$d835c3a0$f28c84d5@skullsplitter>

Hi all,

As Denis already told on the list, we should gather some more information
(figures) about the conference which we can show to governments people and
industry so that they know we mean it seriously. One point is that we should
know approx how many people will come to the conference.
We discussed this at Aragne and it would be good if we make some sort of
pre-registration form which allows all the people on the list to tell that
they likely will come and with how many people. This will give us some
figures.
Meanwhile I will make contact with ShareIt and create an account. After this
is finished we can create a registration form which enables to give us a
more appropriate figure of people who will come. (because people who will
pay online, will most likely come as well).
Further on as Martijn is already working on, we should start as well with a
call-for-papers form, enabling to let people bring in their papers. This
will give us an idea of the amount of people for presentations as well.

So, I think the following actions should be discussed *quickly* and
desicions should be made, since these are some key thingies that certainly
will be needed before we can finish the above things *completely*:

1. When will be the deadline for bringing in papers
2. How much will the confernce cost per person

Other action points concerning the website and information leaflets:

1. We should go on with the logo and the look of the website. We've seen
some pretty nice logo's and designs. Could we vote on them (ie we could put
the somewhere together on the wiki and vote...)? Are there people who made
some new designs?

2. We should finalize the structure of the site. Is the structure proposed
on the wiki OK? http://europython.zope.nl/draftwiki/SiteStructure

3. Are we able to use a database to store registered people, etc?

4. François is making a list of hotels available at Charleroi, so this
information will soon be available too.

5. .... aargh too many points to talk about. Let's keep it with the above
before venturing forth.

Tom.