[EuroPython] Python tracks/topics

Tim Couper tim@2wave.net
Mon, 11 Feb 2002 09:54:05 +0000 (GMT)

Hi M Poinot :-) [too many Marcs :-)]

The question is what do we think are hot topics that
would make people want to come? I'm not sure that
databases per se are that hot - people are probably
either using Oracle or free stuff in the relational
domain - and they are largely understood, and covered
quite extensively in the Python books available. I'm
unsure about the interest in "the database what I
wrote" talks, but they might possibly fit in well into
the Python in the Real World - as an example of the
power and flexibility of python, which made it
possible to produce an object database or whatever,
which was suited to the application space under

The scientific application of python is, I suppose,
"Python in the Scientific World" as opposed to "Python
in the Commercial World", which is where the "Python
in the Real World" topic started. 

However, the issues relating to Scientific python are,
I think, fundamentally techy, and whether the array
handling etc is more efficient or effective than doing
it in Fortran or C; are any such scientists going to
come who aren't already python-aware? I suspect not.

However, I think there is great value in having papers
covering examples of scientific applications of
python, which could be presented if there's enough
interest, or handled as a BoF. These papers are
valuable, in my view, as they can form the basis of
presentations in conferences specifically focussed on
the science concerned, and it is maybe these papers
that act as the evangelistic vehicle for python within
the scientific community.

So I think I'm arguing that Python in the Real world
could include some of the science presentations? Just
my thoughts ... 


 --- Marc Poinot <Marc.Poinot@onera.fr> wrote: > 
> > 
> > In summary we now have the following tracks:
> > 
> > 1. Python and Jython
> > 2. Zope
> > 3. Web Services
> > 4. Python in the Real World
> > 
> Again, you're all focusing on web/internet... But
> it's funny you
> wrote point 4 was the real world, i.e. everything
> else but web :)
> Java, Zope, web... all these are, of course, very
> important for some
> bussiness today. I should say, I has been ?
> Most of the people I know are using Python in the
> scientific world.
> I always present Python as a gluing and/or
> prototyping langage, and
> you can see with Numerical Python or other
> scientific modules, there
> is a not-internet-related Python community.
> As a matter of fact, this community is less fluent
> with web-things,
> mailing lits, dedicated web site, etc...
> This morning I saw a yet-another-module-for-MPI
> announce.
> I propose some scientific related Python use, but I
> must admit this will
> imply I'll have to fill the topic with some
> presentations...
> David Ascher ? Konrad Hinsen ? Paul Dubois ? could
> brightly open
> such a topic. Then we can have about 5/10 papers of
> scientific
> users in Europe (At least German (DLR) and French
> aerospace industry ;)
> I also propose something related with
> internationalisation, experts are
> very close to us and it's worth being mentioned that
> Python is ready for
> that.
> Then the last topic I would suggest is DBMS-related
> topics. You think web
> is the most important because every company has a
> web... but there often
> are more than one database in every company. And
> there probably is one
> DBMS behind every web. As far as I remember, C.
> Tismer has worked on DBMS
> for one of its customer ? Maybe he could be the
> topic benevolvs-dictarvr ?
> See Python home site topics, these main topics
> already are there.
> > 1. Python and Jython
> > 2. Zope
> > 3. Web Services
>   4. Python for scientific World (and Galactic if
> possible)
>   5. Databases on earth and Python 
> Marcvs [alias This email was not generated using a
> Python module] 

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