From sshrinivas at greymatterindia.com  Sun May  1 12:00:37 2005
From: sshrinivas at greymatterindia.com (sshrinivas@greymatterindia.com)
Date: Sun May  1 12:42:43 2005
Subject: [EuroPython] [Auto-Reply] Re: EuroPython Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1
Message-ID: <200505011000.j41A0bd9029840@mail003.ownmail.com>

Hi 

I am no more available on this email id.   My new email id is sshrinivas@small-device.com

Regards

Srini
From rimey at hiit.fi  Sun May  1 18:02:54 2005
From: rimey at hiit.fi (Ken Rimey)
Date: Sun May  1 18:02:57 2005
Subject: [EuroPython] talk submission not working on Sunday
Message-ID: <5b445fd28568cbc414f8ae6b19a3aee4@hiit.fi>

I am trying to submit a talk titled "Experience with Python for
Series 60 in the PDIS project" for the Python Frameworks track,
but I get the following error:

Web.Sync.srend.FormError: Either your session timed out, or you came 
here through an incomplete URL. Please start again.

The error message is a lie.  I've tried submitting the talk many
times from a variety of different browsers.

Ken Rimey

From johan at gnome.org  Sun May  1 23:19:19 2005
From: johan at gnome.org (Johan Dahlin)
Date: Sun May  1 23:19:36 2005
Subject: [EuroPython] Propose a tutorial
Message-ID: <427547D7.4080208@gnome.org>

Since the web link seems to be down, I'm sending it by mail. Sorry about 
that.

Subject
=======
GUI programming in Python using Gtk+


Short description
=================
This tutorial will demonstrate the python bindings for the Gtk+ toolkit, 
the gazpacho UI designer and other rapid development tools developed for 
PyGTK.
Basic python experience is assumed.


Longer description
==================
An introduction to Gtk+/PyGTK will be given in a presentation. Features 
and advantages will be discussed. The audience will not need to know 
anything about development of graphical applications, neither with PyGTK 
or any other toolkits. Basic concepts will be explained and demonstrated.

Several applications will be written from scratch to show the general 
workflow of a PyGTK application:
- Hello World
- Web browser using Mozilla

The UI designer Gazpacho will be shown and a small couple of demos will 
be shown:
- Hello world using Gazpacho
- Web browser
- Full featured text editor

If time is given, additional GNOME technologies such as virtual 
filesystem, file manager, CORBA will be demostrated.

Portability, easy of use, documentation, licensing will also be noted so 
the audience have a good understand of the platform.

Length
======
(45, 60 or 90 minutes are okay)

Speaker
=======
Johan Dahlin
johan@gnome.org
From volkmer at scionics.de  Sun May  1 22:50:14 2005
From: volkmer at scionics.de (Michael Volkmer)
Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 22:50:14 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython talk proposal
Message-ID: <42754106.2090401@scionics.de>

Hello,

sorry, I couldn't get the "Register Presentation" page work.
I'm so free to send you my talk proposal by mail.

Best,
M. Volkmer


Track: Science

Titel: Python and a few more animals - using Python in science & 
research at MPI-CBG

Abstract:
The Max Planck Institute of Molecular Cell Biology and Genetics Dresden, 
a new research facility in Germany, while established five years ago, 
got already some reputation in the scientific community for its 
interdisciplinary approach to the research in these areas.
The talk will give an overview how Python is used for the IT software 
infrastructure of the research institute. The talk is also going into 
some details as Python for administrative and scientific databases, 
Python for solving bioinformatics tasks, Python for image processing & 
analysis and Python for hardware control. The final of the talk is a 
discussion of Python compared to other programming languages and 
software environments used at the MPI-CBG.

Duration: 30 min

Email: volkmer at scionics.de


From sjj698 at gmail.com  Mon May  2 00:01:56 2005
From: sjj698 at gmail.com (Steven Johnston)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 23:01:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Trying to submit a talk, error
Message-ID: <60a51f730505011501580ac753@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Sorry to mail you, i guess you must get too many already. I am trying
to submit a talk for europython (last min :-) and i cant get the
webstite to work, i keep getting the same error. (error at the end of
this email). Would it be possible to put forward my presentation
proposal to you in an email? (here it is),

Many thanks
Steven 


Title
------------------------------------------------------------------
Storage Resource Broker (SRB), Large scientific data and Python

Abstract (max 200)
------------------------------------------------------------------

The BioSimGrid (www.biosimgrid.org) project is used with in the
biochemical community to manage large amounts of simulation data. Each
biochemical simulation produces trajectories which store the location
and velocity of each atom in a protein over a given time period. Each 
trajectory can be 5-20GB in size and the BioSimGrid project can store
over 2000 trajectories.
We addresses these issues by delivering a distributed database system,
to enable more effective storage, access and exchange of biomolecular
simulation data, utilising Python as the integration language and
flatfiles for storage.
The flatfile distribution is managed using a Storage Resource Broker
(SRB, http://www.sdsc.edu/srb/) and controlled via a limited python
interface.
To exploit the efficiency of the flatfiles for the trajectory data and
the power of relational databases for the metadata, we present a
hybrid approach to storing the data, using (i) SRB to manage flatfiles
and using (ii) Oracle10g to store the metadata across 6 distributes
sites.


------------------------------------------------------------------
Long description 
------------------------------------------------------------------

Computer simulations play a vital role in biochemical research. By
simulating the interactions of all atoms within a molecule or protein,
the biochemical properties of the structure can be revealed. One
important application of such Molecular Dynamics and Monte-Carlo
simulations is predictive modelling in drug discovery, where the
motion of proteins are important. These simulations are
computationally demanding and they produce huge amount of data which
is analysed by a variety of methods in order to obtain biochemical
properties.  Generally, these data are stored at the laboratory where
they have been computed in a proprietary format which is unique to the
simulation code that has been used. This constrains the sharing of
data and results within the biochemistry community therefore the data
can generally not be compared easily with post processing tools due to
the varying data formats.
This talk covers how the BioSimGrid project utilises python to produce
a framework which stores the data as well as allows users to submit
processing scripts to process the data. The data are structured into
two key areas, the trajectory data and the metadata. As the metadata
is small and relational, it is stored in a database, curently Oracle
10g. This database is replicated across our 6 sites and accessed using
the Python interfaces. The trajectory data is 5-20GB and not very
suited to a relational database, so for storage and processing
requirements we have produced a framework which stores and retrieves
the data into a Storage Resource Broker (SRB) using python.

SRB enables us to deposit data at any site/location and have it
available to all sites thus eliminating the need to transport or
record the location of the data. There are currently many interfaces
to SRB for other languages as well as a Windows based application and
a very basic python interface. This talk will also look into the
existing API as well as ongoing work, it will cover the advantages and
disadvantages of SRB, providing a practical example showing how it can
be used to store extremely large volumes of data.
---------------------------------



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-- 
-------------------------------------------------
Steven Johnston (MEng) 
Computational Engineering and Design Research Group
School of Engineering Science 
University of Southampton
Highfield
Southampton 
SO17 1BJ
 
Telephone: + 44 (0) 23 8059 8348
Mob phone: + 44 (0) 77 6439 1901

Email: sjj698 at zepler.org

MSN Login (sjj698 at hotmail.com)
---------------------------------------------------

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  2 00:02:06 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 00:02:06 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Propose a tutorial
In-Reply-To: <427547D7.4080208@gnome.org>
References: <427547D7.4080208@gnome.org>
Message-ID: <200505020002.06314.jacob@strakt.com>

s?ndag 01 maj 2005 23.19 skrev Johan Dahlin:
> Since the web link seems to be down, I'm sending it by mail. Sorry about
> that.

Thanks Johan. I have submitted your talk. If you want to view/change it, 
please use the link 
http://www.python-in-business.org/ep2005/talkupdate.chtml?conference=Europython%202005

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  2 00:05:18 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 00:05:18 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] talk submission not working on Sunday
In-Reply-To: <5b445fd28568cbc414f8ae6b19a3aee4@hiit.fi>
References: <5b445fd28568cbc414f8ae6b19a3aee4@hiit.fi>
Message-ID: <200505020005.18675.jacob@strakt.com>

s?ndag 01 maj 2005 18.02 skrev Ken Rimey:
> I am trying to submit a talk titled "Experience with Python for
> Series 60 in the PDIS project" for the Python Frameworks track,
> but I get the following error:
>
> Web.Sync.srend.FormError: Either your session timed out, or you came
> here through an incomplete URL. Please start again.
>
> The error message is a lie.  I've tried submitting the talk many
> times from a variety of different browsers.
>
> Ken Rimey

I'm sorry, I made an error when trying to improve the site.I set the session 
timeout to 0, to provoke the problems we have seen and I forgot to remove it 
when updating the real talk registration.

Please try doing the talk submission again. Thanks for letting us know about 
the problems.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From sshrinivas at greymatterindia.com  Mon May  2 00:02:37 2005
From: sshrinivas at greymatterindia.com (sshrinivas@greymatterindia.com)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 03:32:37 +0530
Subject: [EuroPython] [Auto-Reply] Re: EuroPython Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2
Message-ID: <200505012202.j41M2bQX015425@mail003.ownmail.com>

Hi 

I am no more available on this email id.   My new email id is sshrinivas at small-device.com

Regards

Srini

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  2 00:45:48 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 00:45:48 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Trying to submit a talk, error
In-Reply-To: <60a51f730505011501580ac753@mail.gmail.com>
References: <60a51f730505011501580ac753@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200505020045.48579.jacob@strakt.com>

m?ndag 02 maj 2005 00.01 skrev Steven Johnston:
> Hi,
>
> Sorry to mail you, i guess you must get too many already. I am trying
> to submit a talk for europython (last min :-) and i cant get the
> webstite to work, i keep getting the same error. (error at the end of
> this email). Would it be possible to put forward my presentation
> proposal to you in an email? (here it is),

You probably missed my fixing of the problem by just a few minutes. In any 
case, I have submitted your talk.
Please use
http://www.python-in-business.org/ep2005/talkupdate.chtml?conference=Europython%202005
to check/modify the entry and to enter a speaker bio.

I didn't know which track you wanted the talk to be in, so I added it in the 
Science track. If this needs changing,please drop me an email.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  2 00:49:33 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 00:49:33 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython talk proposal
In-Reply-To: <42754106.2090401@scionics.de>
References: <42754106.2090401@scionics.de>
Message-ID: <200505020049.33255.jacob@strakt.com>

s?ndag 01 maj 2005 22.50 skrev Michael Volkmer:
> Hello,
>
> sorry, I couldn't get the "Register Presentation" page work.
> I'm so free to send you my talk proposal by mail.

You probably missed my fixing of the problem by just a few minutes. In any 
case, I have submitted your talk.
Please use
http://www.python-in-business.org/ep2005/talkupdate.chtml?conference=Europython%202005
to check/modify the entry and to enter a speaker bio.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  2 00:51:27 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 00:51:27 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submitting fails
In-Reply-To: <42739281.9070509@nuxeo.com>
References: <7be3f35d0504300319218b07d8@mail.gmail.com>
	<42739281.9070509@nuxeo.com>
Message-ID: <200505020051.27353.jacob@strakt.com>

l?rdag 30 april 2005 16.13 skrev Tarek Ziad?:

> +1
> Had the same problem

Submission should be working properly now. We are extending the submission 
period by a few days.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  2 00:57:13 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 00:57:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] About the AV equipment available
In-Reply-To: <191CF299661D6E4EA39DC5DB2D4EB73E0CCAA9@esebe105.NOE.Nokia.com>
References: <191CF299661D6E4EA39DC5DB2D4EB73E0CCAA9@esebe105.NOE.Nokia.com>
Message-ID: <200505020057.13352.jacob@strakt.com>

fredag 29 april 2005 13.17 skrev Jukka.P.Laurila at nokia.com:
> I'm planning to show some live demos of running Python on the phone and
> interacting with it over Bluetooth using a terminal program on a PC. Since
> Bluetooth is a fickle technology that's hard to configure I will have to
> use my own laptop for the demos. Also, to show the demos live it would be
> _very_ convenient to be able to show the phone screen and the laptop screen
> simultaneously, so having a second projector and a camera would be nice.
> Another solution would be to use a USB webcam connected to the laptop.

We should be able to set up an extra projector for your talk. The lecture 
halls have double screens, so that part is not a problem. Please arrange with 
your track chairman to test your setup in an intermission before your talk, 
so that we are sure that the equipment works with your laptop. We had some 
problems of that sort last year.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  2 01:28:13 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 01:28:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Can I get some answers about the following?
In-Reply-To: <2mk6mn181n.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <42708B7E.4080307@ita.chalmers.se>
	<2mk6mn181n.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <200505020128.13698.jacob@strakt.com>

torsdag 28 april 2005 12.59 skrev Michael Hudson:
> Dario Lopez-K?sten <dario at ita.chalmers.se> writes:
> > Hello all, sorry to be a bother but I need some answers to the stuff
> > below, and it seems as communications are being somewhat slow at the
> > moment. Unfortunatley ther is not much time left, so I need to get
> > these answered or at least get an opinion on this asap. Silence is not
> > an option.
> >
> > 1) will we advertise in any way that we give 20% discount to 5 or more
> >    people from the same company (regular attendees only, not speakers,
> >    students, etc).
>
> I thought we'd agreed on this one.

I think we publicly announce it in our next newsflash and add info on the 
website. I will add the corporate rate as an alternative for the individual 
registrations. 
>
> > If yes, in what form? Website? to sponsors only? Upon registering?
>
> Hum, I don't know.  Maybe a mention on the website would make the most
> sense.
>
> > 2 A) I want to change the requirement for exhibitors to have their
> > booths manned at all times (almost). I think it is up to the exhibitor
> > to arrange for proper manning of their table. It is not like we have
> > huge amounts of unmanned exhibition booths.
>
> I have no opinion on this issue.

The idea from last year was to make sure there is a slot of time when all 
booths are manned and up and running. It is not reasonable to ask the 
exhibitors to keep their booths going throughout the conference. Europython 
is not a large enough event for this. At ACCU UK, which is a larger and much 
more expensive conference, the exhibitors are there for 2 of the 4 days.
>
> > 2 B) I want this because it I would like to have at least 3-4
> > exhibitng sponsors. If we do, we can afford to rent an adjacent space
> > in the conference that is perfect for trade show space and socialising
> > area.
>
> This sounds great!
>
> > I need to know if 2 A and B are acceptable.
> >
> > 3) Batch registrations. How do we go about batch registrations? We
> >    have a sponsor that wnat sto register their customers as part of a
> >    conference package they are preparing. How to do that?

Here are instructions for how to handle people in batch:

They need to fill in one web page per person. Each person should have their 
own personal details filled in and each person _must_ have a unique email 
address. You may fake the email address, in which case you won't get official 
communications from the Europython conference.

If you want to pay using a credit card:

After you have filled in the personal details and submitted them, you select 
the "Defer" option. On the invoice page, you then note down the payment code.

When you have entered all the attendees you want to pay for, you proceed to 
the "Pay multiple invoices" link on the registration page that can be reached 
from the Europython main webpage. On the page you reach, you enter all the 
payment codes. You will be redirected to the Worldpay website. After you have 
paid, you will be returned to the registration site, where you can select and 
print each of the invoices in the paid batch. Like almost all conference 
registration software, we generate one invoice per attendee and do not have 
an alternative with a singe invoice for multiple attendees.

If you want to pay by SWIFT/IBAN or directly into the Swedish bank account of 
the Europython Society:

After you have filled in the personal details and submitted them, you select 
the "Pay by SWIFT/IBAN" option. When reaching the invoice page, print the 
invoice. When paying, please attach all the payment codes with the payment. 
If there isn't room enough in the message field, send an email to 
jacob at strakt.com with the details of your payment and all the payment codes 
that the payment covers.

If someone wants to bring a really large number of people - say 15 or more - I 
can write a script that takes a list of personal data. However, this would 
eat some of my time, which is a resource which is currently in short supply.

Jacob

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  2 01:29:34 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 01:29:34 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] mail test
In-Reply-To: <4270CC25.2000403@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <4270CC25.2000403@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <200505020129.34299.jacob@strakt.com>

torsdag 28 april 2005 13.42 skrev Dario Lopez-K?sten:
> testing, testing, 1,2,3
>
> Is this thing working? *tap* *tap* Can you hear me?
>
> Strangers in the niiiiiiiight.....
>
> <test mail to see if mail.python.org  is working or if my messages get
> moderated to oblivion>

Loud and clear.

Jag var i England under f?rra veckan och internet-tillg?ng var ?nnumindre?n 
v?ntat.

Jacob

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  2 01:33:46 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 01:33:46 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Invoice request for EuroPython2005 registration
In-Reply-To: <593D8B10B2409E468D3E916CA156C84D06CC5BA0@mail02.ad.telekom.lv>
References: <593D8B10B2409E468D3E916CA156C84D06CC5BA0@mail02.ad.telekom.lv>
Message-ID: <200505020133.47057.jacob@strakt.com>

onsdag 27 april 2005 13.33 skrev Sandis Zacs:
> Halo !
>
>  Please prepare and send me invoice in electronic and paper format
> for EuroPython2005 registration.
>
> Attendance:
> Sandis Zacs (Early bird) 160 Euro
> Aleksandrs Livincovs (Student Early Bird)  100 Euro
> Total: 260 Euro

When you register this year, you get to print your own invoice, which you can 
then hand to your financial department for payment, either using SWIFT/IBAN 
or a credit card.

If this is not sufficient, please email me again, and we will find another 
solution.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From ianb at colorstudy.com  Mon May  2 08:29:24 2005
From: ianb at colorstudy.com (Ian Bicking)
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 01:29:24 -0500
Subject: [EuroPython] Deadline to commit to a presentation
Message-ID: <4275C8C4.1060400@colorstudy.com>

Hi.  I just submitted two presentations:
http://pbf.strakt.com:8080/modifytalk.chtml?talk=2289
http://pbf.strakt.com:8080/modifytalk.chtml?talk=2296

But I haven't figured out yet if I'll be able to make it to EuroPython; 
I'm still discussing sponsorship and time with my employer.  But 
EuroPython really isn't that far away, and if you accept the 
presentations you'll need to know that I can come.  I assume some of the 
process can move forward still, but by what date would you need me to 
commit?

Thanks, and sorry if this makes scheduling more difficult

-- 
Ian Bicking  /  ianb at colorstudy.com  / http://blog.ianbicking.org

From paul at zope-europe.org  Mon May  2 11:48:13 2005
From: paul at zope-europe.org (Paul Everitt)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 11:48:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Is the talk database wedged?
Message-ID: <C202FCC9-5979-4473-876B-270A2BF28F16@zope-europe.org>


I received two reports, one last week and one this weekend, that  
people can't submit talks for EPC2005.  Anybody know anything about  
this?

Also, I'd like to propose an IRC meeting this week for the track  
chairs and conference organizers.  Anybody interested?

--Paul

From sshrinivas at greymatterindia.com  Mon May  2 11:48:19 2005
From: sshrinivas at greymatterindia.com (sshrinivas@greymatterindia.com)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 15:18:19 +0530
Subject: [EuroPython] [Auto-Reply] Re: EuroPython Digest, Vol 22, Issue 3
Message-ID: <200505020948.j429mJCC023690@mail003.ownmail.com>

Hi 

I am no more available on this email id.   My new email id is sshrinivas at small-device.com

Regards

Srini

From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Mon May  2 13:59:47 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 13:59:47 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] [Auto-Reply] Re: EuroPython Digest, Vol 22, Issue 1
In-Reply-To: <200505011000.j41A0bd9029840@mail003.ownmail.com>
References: <200505011000.j41A0bd9029840@mail003.ownmail.com>
Message-ID: <42761633.7070202@ita.chalmers.se>

sshrinivas at greymatterindia.com wrote:
> Hi 
> 
> I am no more available on this email id.   My new email id is sshrinivas at small-device.com
> 
> Regards
> 
> Srini
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

I unsubscribed this user.

/dario

-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
"...and click? damn, I need to kill -9 Word again..." - b using macosx

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  2 17:02:10 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:02:10 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Advertising sponsor
Message-ID: <200505021702.10917.jacob@strakt.com>

Hi everyone!

I have just received a request for advertising in the page footers throughout 
the website, like we had last year. The advertiser is a webshop that seems to 
be focusing on elecronics and home appliances: http://www.guenstiger.de/.
They pay 1200 Euro for having the space until the end of the year.

I'm in the process of collecting more info from them about the way they want 
the links to be designed.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  2 17:21:22 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 17:21:22 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Organisers meeting Tuesday 2 May at 18.00 CET
Message-ID: <200505021721.23002.jacob@strakt.com>

Hi everyone!

The next meeting is scheduled for tomorrow, Tuesday 3 May at 18.00 CET.
The venue is #europython on the Freenode IRC network, as usual.

Items on the agenda are:

1. Submitted talks - review and discussion about the mix. Do we need to canvas 
any specific people in order to get a more attractive conference?

2. Early-bird reigistrations - status

3. Sponsors

4. Progress reports

If you have any other items you want on the agenda, please send an email to 
the list before the meeting.

Jacob

From jmo at ita.chalmers.se  Mon May  2 17:25:37 2005
From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet)
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 17:25:37 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] registered presentation disappeared
Message-ID: <42764671.6050309@ita.chalmers.se>


Hi!

My talk submission on EP disappeared (or rather was replaced by another
presentation)

it had the following ID: 1762 (now it shows Tarek's presentation instead)
I have just entered it again now it is registered under the id 2392

regards
/JM


From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  2 18:00:42 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2005 18:00:42 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] registered presentation disappeared
In-Reply-To: <42764671.6050309@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <42764671.6050309@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <200505021800.43371.jacob@strakt.com>

On m?ndag 02 maj 2005 17:25, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
> Hi!
>
> My talk submission on EP disappeared (or rather was replaced by another
> presentation)
>
> it had the following ID: 1762 (now it shows Tarek's presentation instead)
> I have just entered it again now it is registered under the id 2392

ID 1762 has a total of 5 speakers, including you, registered. The list of all 
talks just shows one of the speakers.

The short description and list of speakers for the presentation was changed 
05/04/21 11:32:36 by someone through the web interface.

This is of course the consequences of doing things in a log-in free 
environment. While there is support for password protection in the 
registration server, I wanted to see how things turned out if we kept things 
very simple and easy to use.

Jacob

From jmo at ita.chalmers.se  Mon May  2 19:53:09 2005
From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet)
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 19:53:09 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] registered presentation disappeared
In-Reply-To: <200505021800.43371.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <42764671.6050309@ita.chalmers.se>
	<200505021800.43371.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <42766905.7080000@ita.chalmers.se>

Jacob Hall?n wrote:

>On m?ndag 02 maj 2005 17:25, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>My talk submission on EP disappeared (or rather was replaced by another
>>presentation)
>>
>>it had the following ID: 1762 (now it shows Tarek's presentation instead)
>>I have just entered it again now it is registered under the id 2392
>>    
>>
>
>ID 1762 has a total of 5 speakers, including you, registered. The list of all 
>talks just shows one of the speakers.
>
>The short description and list of speakers for the presentation was changed 
>05/04/21 11:32:36 by someone through the web interface.
>
>This is of course the consequences of doing things in a log-in free 
>environment. While there is support for password protection in the 
>registration server, I wanted to see how things turned out if we kept things 
>very simple and easy to use.
>
>Jacob
>  
>


I don't know but talk 1762 was not "CPSMailAcces : a webmail application
in CPS3 using Zope 3 and Five" as of yesterday (2005-05-01) but "WYSIWYG
interface design with CPSSkins and CPSPortlets"

I sent a mail to Tarek, Julien, St?fane, Florent, Eric and Jean-Paul
about pointing at the text so they could have a look at the talk that I
had submitted. So it could be that Tarek looked at it (he wrote back
"Cool, it works I've just registered a talk too"), then he entered a new
talk submission, but he had the old ID saved in his session. When he
clicked on 'Submit', it replaced the talk that I had entered with his
own talk submission?

here is the mail exchange, you can see that the talk id is the same ...

=====================================
1 pr?sentation de 60 min.

Zope and Zope related [Europython]

WYSIWYG interface design with CPSSkins and CPSPortlets
http://www.python-in-business.org/ep2005/modifytalk.chtml?talk=1762

jmo at ita.chalmers.se, ja at nuxeo.com

/JM
 

A cool ca marche, je viens donc d'en poster une aussi :

http://pbf.strakt.com:8080/modifytalk.chtml?talk=1762

Tarek
=====================================

/JM

From tziade at nuxeo.com  Mon May  2 20:33:58 2005
From: tziade at nuxeo.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Tarek_Ziad=E9?=)
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 20:33:58 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] registered presentation disappeared
In-Reply-To: <42766905.7080000@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <42764671.6050309@ita.chalmers.se>	<200505021800.43371.jacob@strakt.com>
	<42766905.7080000@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <42767296.5030802@nuxeo.com>

Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:

>Jacob Hall?n wrote:
>
>  
>
>>On m?ndag 02 maj 2005 17:25, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi!
>>>
>>>My talk submission on EP disappeared (or rather was replaced by another
>>>presentation)
>>>
>>>it had the following ID: 1762 (now it shows Tarek's presentation instead)
>>>I have just entered it again now it is registered under the id 2392
>>>   
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>ID 1762 has a total of 5 speakers, including you, registered. The list of all 
>>talks just shows one of the speakers.
>>
>>The short description and list of speakers for the presentation was changed 
>>05/04/21 11:32:36 by someone through the web interface.
>>
>>This is of course the consequences of doing things in a log-in free 
>>environment. While there is support for password protection in the 
>>registration server, I wanted to see how things turned out if we kept things 
>>very simple and easy to use.
>>
>>Jacob
>> 
>>
>>    
>>
>
>
>I don't know but talk 1762 was not "CPSMailAcces : a webmail application
>in CPS3 using Zope 3 and Five" as of yesterday (2005-05-01) but "WYSIWYG
>interface design with CPSSkins and CPSPortlets"
>
>I sent a mail to Tarek, Julien, St?fane, Florent, Eric and Jean-Paul
>about pointing at the text so they could have a look at the talk that I
>had submitted. So it could be that Tarek looked at it (he wrote back
>"Cool, it works I've just registered a talk too"), then he entered a new
>talk submission, but he had the old ID saved in his session. When he
>clicked on 'Submit', it replaced the talk that I had entered with his
>own talk submission?
>
>  
>
Hello,
As far as I remember  I just looked at Jean-Marc's one
 then I created a new entry, by going through the full 
register-a-talk-process here

http://pbf.strakt.com:8080/presentation.chtml

I did not erase JMO's entry fields to put mine ;)

Tarek


-- 
Tarek ZIADE, Nuxeo SARL: Zope Service Provider.
Mail: tz at nuxeo.com - Tel: +33 (0)6 30 37 02 63
Nuxeo Collaborative Portal Server: http://www.nuxeo.com/cps
Gestion de contenu web / portail collaboratif / groupware / open source


From lists at mikael.jansson.be  Mon May  2 21:33:43 2005
From: lists at mikael.jansson.be (Mikael Jansson (mailing lists))
Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 21:33:43 +0200 CEST
Subject: [EuroPython] Organisers meeting Tuesday 2 May at 18.00 CET
In-Reply-To: <200505021721.23002.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <538674230339-BeMail@>

Jacob Hall?n <jacob at strakt.com>:
>
> Hi everyone!
> 
> The next meeting is scheduled for tomorrow, Tuesday 3 May at 18.00 
> CET.
> The venue is #europython on the Freenode IRC network, as usual.
> 
> Items on the agenda are:
> 
> [snip]
> 
How about the travel directions I've been semi-working on? :) If that's 
something that's not really needed, I'd like to offer my services 
elsewhere on the conference.


Regards,
--
Mikael Jansson
http://mikael.jansson.be

From wolfgang.keller.nospam at gmx.de  Tue May  3 10:12:54 2005
From: wolfgang.keller.nospam at gmx.de (Wolfgang Keller)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 08:12:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython registration/reservation deadline vs.
	schedule availability - HUH?
Message-ID: <xn0e1t3xv50rdb001wolfgangkellernospamgmxde@news.gmane.org>

Hello,

today I've read the following on the Europython WWW site:

http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/registration_info

"Early bird payment ends 15 May."
"Last day for reserving accomodations is 15 May."

http://www.europython.org/sections/tracks_and_talks/schedule_day_1

"The schedule will be posted in early June."

The attendees are supposed to register and reserve accomodation before
even being able to know when/whether it will be worth attending for
them?

OOPS?

How is anyone supposed to justify the expense in time and money
required for participating either towards his employer or towards
himself if he has absolutely NO information about content and schedule
fo the conference?

Best regards

Wolfgang Keller


From jacob at strakt.com  Tue May  3 12:50:32 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 12:50:32 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython registration/reservation deadline vs.
	schedule availability - HUH?
In-Reply-To: <xn0e1t3xv50rdb001wolfgangkellernospamgmxde@news.gmane.org>
References: <xn0e1t3xv50rdb001wolfgangkellernospamgmxde@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <200505031250.32894.jacob@strakt.com>

tisdag 03 maj 2005 10.12 skrev Wolfgang Keller:
> Hello,
>
> today I've read the following on the Europython WWW site:
>
> http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/registration_info
>
> "Early bird payment ends 15 May."
> "Last day for reserving accomodations is 15 May."
>
> http://www.europython.org/sections/tracks_and_talks/schedule_day_1
>
> "The schedule will be posted in early June."
>
> The attendees are supposed to register and reserve accomodation before
> even being able to know when/whether it will be worth attending for
> them?
>
> OOPS?
>
> How is anyone supposed to justify the expense in time and money
> required for participating either towards his employer or towards
> himself if he has absolutely NO information about content and schedule
> fo the conference?

As an early-bird registrant, you get a discount because you are taking a 
slightly bigger risk, since you don't know what the final schedule will be. A 
list of registered talks will be posted a couple of days before 15 May, but 
making a well working schedule takes a lot of time and work, which is why it 
won't be available until early June.

Jacob Hall?n

From wolfgang.keller.nospam at gmx.de  Tue May  3 13:50:52 2005
From: wolfgang.keller.nospam at gmx.de (Wolfgang Keller)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:50:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython registration/reservation deadline vs.
	schedule availability - HUH?
References: <xn0e1t3xv50rdb001wolfgangkellernospamgmxde@news.gmane.org>
	<200505031250.32894.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <xn0e1t9mzcu1bl007wolfgangkellernospamgmxde@news.gmane.org>

Jacob Hallen wrote:

> As an early-bird registrant, you get a discount because you are
> taking a slightly bigger risk, since you don't know what the final
> schedule will be. A list of registered talks will be posted a couple
> of days before 15 May, but making a well working schedule takes a lot
> of time and work, which is why it won't be available until early June.

Just as an indication how things look like from a potential attendee's
perspective:

1. For all people who do not get the fee (+ travel expense etc.) paid
pay their employer:
- "early bird" registration fee is already quite a bit of money,
non-early-bird is unjustifiable, period.
- registering and paying accomodation "blindly" for the whole week
(including having to take vacation for all that time!) without knowing
at all what will be the content of the conference is unjustifiable as
well.

By consequence, with your organisation, you've automatically totally
ruled out participation for these people.

2. For the people who get participation paid by their employer:
- they need to apply for allowance to attend the conference in the
scope of their work usually quite some time in advance
- their bosses will obviously want to know when the subjects which are
supposed to actually concern the employee in question will be treated.
Employee-days cost money, you know. In addition to the travel expense
and registration fee itself.

I wonder who you expect to attend the conference then?

BTW: I regularly attend quite a few conferences every year concerning
all kinds of subjects for my job, and I've never encountered the case
that at least a detailed list of talks/subjects was NOT sent out
together with the invitation AT LEAST three months in advance.

BTW2: I know you're doing the organisation work as volunteers in your
spare time, but then I would consider it just the more important to
plan the organisation of the whole event in a way that allows a maximum
of participants...

As a stop-gap measure, I think it would be extremely important to
publish every available bit of information about the content of the
conference really urgently NOW, otherwise I'm pretty sure you WILL be
frustrated about participation numbers.

Best regards

Wolfgang Keller


From jacob at strakt.com  Sun May  1 16:58:46 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Sun, 1 May 2005 16:58:46 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk registration improvement and extending talk
	submission
Message-ID: <200505011658.47284.jacob@strakt.com>

I have improved the talk registration procedure somewhat more resilient to 
problems:

1. I have increased the timeout from 15 minutes to 1 hour. It turned out that 
Twisted has a hard-coded timeout that triggers in something between 15 and 30 
minutes from the last activity in the session.

2. If you hit the timeout, you will get an error message saying that you 
probably did so. It looks ugly, but it is better than no message at all. 
Making it beautiful would be more of an effort than I have time for right 
now.

We are still a little short on talks; we have a total of 60 hours of talk 
slots, not counting the lightning talk sessions on Wednesday afternoon and 
right now we have talks filling 37 of those hours.

For this reason, I propose that we extend talk submission until 7 May under 
the pretext of having had problems with the talk registration procedure. In 
the mean time,all the track chairs need to canvas their contacts, so that we 
get a nicely filled schedule.

Jacob

From tom at aragne.com  Wed May  4 11:00:37 2005
From: tom at aragne.com (tom)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 11:00:37 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Organisers meeting Tuesday 2 May at 18.00 CET
References: <200505021721.23002.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <00ba01c55087$c0af05f0$2102a8c0@simkin>

I missed the meeting, anything I can help with?

Regards,
Tom.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jacob Hall?n" <jacob at strakt.com>
To: <europython at python.org>
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 5:21 PM
Subject: [Tom] [EuroPython] Organisers meeting Tuesday 2 May at 18.00 CET


> Hi everyone!
>
> The next meeting is scheduled for tomorrow, Tuesday 3 May at 18.00 CET.
> The venue is #europython on the Freenode IRC network, as usual.
>
> Items on the agenda are:
>
> 1. Submitted talks - review and discussion about the mix. Do we need to 
> canvas
> any specific people in order to get a more attractive conference?
>
> 2. Early-bird reigistrations - status
>
> 3. Sponsors
>
> 4. Progress reports
>
> If you have any other items you want on the agenda, please send an email 
> to
> the list before the meeting.
>
> Jacob
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> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From johnmuth at yahoo.com  Wed May  4 16:06:53 2005
From: johnmuth at yahoo.com (john muth)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 07:06:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [EuroPython] online registration problems?
Message-ID: <20050504140653.22082.qmail@web30411.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


I've tried twice today to register for the conference
but I get errors -- see below.

Basically I would like to register for the "early
bird"  / "regular" attendee price (for one person),
plus the special accomodation -- a full double room
(for myself and  one girlfriend) if possible. 
Arriving Sunday 23 leaving Wed 29.

Thank you,
John Muth

Error from registration form:
  	
Site Error

An error was encountered while publishing this
resource.

KeyError
Sorry, a site error occurred.

Traceback (innermost last):

    * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 150, in
publish_module
    * Module
Products.PlacelessTranslationService.PatchStringIO,
line 51, in new_publish
    * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 114, in publish
    * Module Zope.App.startup, line 202, in
zpublisher_exception_hook
    * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 98, in publish
    * Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
    * Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in
call_object
    * Module Products.CMFCore.PortalContent, line 116,
in __call__
    * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in
__call__
    * Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in
_bindAndExec
    * Module Products.CMFCore.FSPageTemplate, line
191, in _exec
    * Module Products.CMFCore.FSPageTemplate, line
124, in pt_render
    * Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line
95, in pt_render
      <FSPageTemplate at /pbf/document_view used for
/pbf/index_html>
    * Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 200, in __call__
    * Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 244, in
interpret
    * Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 703, in
do_useMacro
    * Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 244, in
interpret
    * Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 703, in
do_useMacro
    * Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 244, in
interpret
    * Module TAL.TALInterpreter, line 473, in
do_setLocal_tal
    * Module Products.PageTemplates.TALES, line 220,
in evaluate
      URL: /pbf/main_template
      Line 15, Column 4
      Expression: standard:'portal_properties/title'
      Names:

{'container': <PloneSite instance at 9e3dd78>,
 'default': <Products.PageTemplates.TALES.Default
instance at 0x86fed74>,
 'here': <Document at /pbf/index_html>,
 'loop': <SafeMapping instance at 83b5cb8>,
 'modules':
<Products.PageTemplates.ZRPythonExpr._SecureModuleImporter
instance at 0x8405894>,
 'nothing': None,
 'options': {'args': ()},
 'repeat': <SafeMapping instance at 83b5cb8>,
 'request': <HTTPRequest,
URL=http://localhost:9683/pbf/index_html>,
 'root': <Application instance at 9eb5ee8>,
 'template': <FSPageTemplate at /pbf/document_view
used for /pbf/index_html>,
 'traverse_subpath': [],
 'user': Anonymous User}

    * Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line
201, in __call__
    * Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line
189, in _eval
    * Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line
141, in _eval
      __traceback_info__: portal_properties

KeyError: portal_properties (Also, an error occurred
while attempting to render the standard error
message.)

Troubleshooting Suggestions

    * The URL may be incorrect.
    * The parameters passed to this resource may be
incorrect.
    * A resource that this resource relies on may be
encountering an error.

For more detailed information about the error, please
refer to the error log.

If the error persists please contact the site
maintainer. Thank you for your patience.


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From magnus at thinkware.se  Wed May  4 17:26:08 2005
From: magnus at thinkware.se (Magnus Lycka)
Date: Wed,  4 May 2005 17:26:08 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] =?iso-8859-1?q?online_registration_problems=3F?=
Message-ID: <think001_4278e80edddca@webmail.thinkware.se>

I initially got a Twisted traceback (I think) which said something
in the style of "you need to register *for* something". (As if early
bird speaker isn't enough! Is a T-shirt mandatory? ;)

Repeated attempts got me the same Zope (?) site error as John,
even if I closed Mozilla and started it over again.

My workaround was to try again from a different computer. (Nice
to have many linux boxes to log in to--I didn't have to lift my
butt.) Then it worked. 

Cookie problems?


-- 
Magnus Lycka, Thinkware AB
http://www.thinkware.se/  mailto:magnus at thinkware.se

From p.bizzarri at icube.it  Wed May  4 18:04:52 2005
From: p.bizzarri at icube.it (Paolo Bizzarri)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:04:52 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Submitting a talk: too late ?
Message-ID: <200505041804.52899.p.bizzarri@icube.it>

Hi,

my name is Paolo Bizzarri and I am writing from Icube, Pisa.

We would like to submit a talk about our e-government application, PAFlow. It 
is a rather large application, written in python and Zope, and currently used 
by a number of italian Public Administrations.

Is it still possible to submit a talk ?

Best regards.

Paolo

-- 
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Address:    Via Ridolfi 15 - 56124 Pisa (PI), Italy
E-mail: p.bizzarri at icube.it Web: http://www.icube.it
Phone: (+39) 050 97 02 07 Fax:  (+39) 050 31 36 588

From johnmuth at yahoo.com  Wed May  4 18:09:24 2005
From: johnmuth at yahoo.com (john muth)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 09:09:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [EuroPython] online registration problems?
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <20050504160924.93913.qmail@web30405.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

For what it's worth...
I'm not blocking cookies.
I am on WinXP.
I'll try again from my Mac at home later tonight.

--- Magnus Lycka <magnus at thinkware.se> wrote:
> I initially got a Twisted traceback (I think) which
> said something
> in the style of "you need to register *for*
> something". (As if early
> bird speaker isn't enough! Is a T-shirt mandatory?
> ;)
> 
> Repeated attempts got me the same Zope (?) site
> error as John,
> even if I closed Mozilla and started it over again.
> 
> My workaround was to try again from a different
> computer. (Nice
> to have many linux boxes to log in to--I didn't have
> to lift my
> butt.) Then it worked. 
> 
> Cookie problems?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Magnus Lycka, Thinkware AB
> http://www.thinkware.se/  mailto:magnus at thinkware.se
> 

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From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Wed May  4 18:13:31 2005
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:13:31 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Submitting a talk: too late ?
In-Reply-To: <200505041804.52899.p.bizzarri@icube.it>
References: <200505041804.52899.p.bizzarri@icube.it>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d050504091361218bbc@mail.gmail.com>

Paolo,

I am quite sure that we extended the submission period for some days cause 
of unexpected server problems on the two main submitting days.

Harald


2005/5/4, Paolo Bizzarri <p.bizzarri at icube.it>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> my name is Paolo Bizzarri and I am writing from Icube, Pisa.
> 
> We would like to submit a talk about our e-government application, PAFlow. 
> It
> is a rather large application, written in python and Zope, and currently 
> used
> by a number of italian Public Administrations.
> 
> Is it still possible to submit a talk ?
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> Paolo
> 
> --
> Paolo Bizzarri - President - Icube S.r.l.
> Address: Via Ridolfi 15 - 56124 Pisa (PI), Italy
> E-mail: p.bizzarri at icube.it Web: http://www.icube.it
> Phone: (+39) 050 97 02 07 Fax: (+39) 050 31 36 588
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 
> 


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From mwh at python.net  Wed May  4 18:39:18 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 17:39:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Submitting a talk: too late ?
In-Reply-To: <200505041804.52899.p.bizzarri@icube.it> (Paolo Bizzarri's
	message of "Wed, 4 May 2005 18:04:52 +0200")
References: <200505041804.52899.p.bizzarri@icube.it>
Message-ID: <2mll6vx7wp.fsf@starship.python.net>

Paolo Bizzarri <p.bizzarri at icube.it> writes:

> Is it still possible to submit a talk ?

Yep!  Get to it! :)

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  > You're already using asyncore so you can't really be worried
  > about complexity <wink>.
(-8  .helps which, demand on backwards work to brain my rewired I've
                                      -- Jeremy Hylton & Richie Hindle

From faassen at infrae.com  Wed May  4 18:50:16 2005
From: faassen at infrae.com (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Wed, 04 May 2005 18:50:16 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk registration improvement and extending talk
 submission
In-Reply-To: <200505011658.47284.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <200505011658.47284.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <4278FD48.6080906@infrae.com>

Jacob Hallen wrote:
[snip]
> For this reason, I propose that we extend talk submission until 7 May under 
> the pretext of having had problems with the talk registration procedure. In 
> the mean time,all the track chairs need to canvas their contacts, so that we 
> get a nicely filled schedule.

Perhaps a longer extension than the 7th of may would be nice, though I'm 
not a track chair. :)

I suggest we also update the talk deadlines on the site! People may not 
be submitting talks if they think it's too late.

Regards,

Martijn

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Wed May  4 18:54:19 2005
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 18:54:19 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk registration improvement and extending talk
	submission
In-Reply-To: <4278FD48.6080906@infrae.com>
References: <200505011658.47284.jacob@strakt.com> <4278FD48.6080906@infrae.com>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d050504095460dca846@mail.gmail.com>

+ 1 on both suggestions

lets take the 10th and write it on the WebSite

2005/5/4, Martijn Faassen <faassen at infrae.com>:
> 
> Jacob Hallen wrote:
> [snip]
> > For this reason, I propose that we extend talk submission until 7 May 
> under
> > the pretext of having had problems with the talk registration procedure. 
> In
> > the mean time,all the track chairs need to canvas their contacts, so 
> that we
> > get a nicely filled schedule.
> 
> Perhaps a longer extension than the 7th of may would be nice, though I'm
> not a track chair. :)
> 
> I suggest we also update the talk deadlines on the site! People may not
> be submitting talks if they think it's too late.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Martijn
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 
> 


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From jacob at strakt.com  Wed May  4 19:39:21 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:39:21 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] online registration problems?
In-Reply-To: <20050504140653.22082.qmail@web30411.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20050504140653.22082.qmail@web30411.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <200505041939.21919.jacob@strakt.com>

onsdag 04 maj 2005 16.06 skrev john muth:
> I've tried twice today to register for the conference
> but I get errors -- see below.
>
> Basically I would like to register for the "early
> bird"  / "regular" attendee price (for one person),
> plus the special accomodation -- a full double room
> (for myself and  one girlfriend) if possible.
> Arriving Sunday 23 leaving Wed 29.

I'm afraid I got bitten by an error I had previously fixed. When resolving a 
conflict in the subversion versioning system, I took a wrong turn and ended 
up with the version that contained the bug instead of the fixed version.

I hope things should be working properly now.

Jacob Hall?n

From jacob at strakt.com  Wed May  4 19:45:36 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 19:45:36 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk registration improvement and extending talk
	submission
In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d050504095460dca846@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200505011658.47284.jacob@strakt.com> <4278FD48.6080906@infrae.com>
	<7be3f35d050504095460dca846@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200505041945.36997.jacob@strakt.com>

onsdag 04 maj 2005 18.54 skrev Harald Armin Massa:
> + 1 on both suggestions
>
> lets take the 10th and write it on the WebSite

I'm afraid the 10th will be too late. We can't really move the 
early-bird/accomodation deadline,and people should have the possibility to 
see the approved list of talks before then. This means that the list of talks 
need to go public no later than the 11th.The track chairs need a couple of 
days to examine the talks and say if there are any that should be dropped or 
modified.

I guess we could cut a day out of this time, and make the 8th the deadline for 
submissions.

Jacob

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Wed May  4 21:16:38 2005
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 21:16:38 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Last Years Stuff
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0505041216261f3f8a@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am sure last years stuff is somewhere... I am missing my Biographie for 
the talk proposals, do not want to write it new.

(mese the same as last year)

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From Kevin at artsalliancemedia.com  Wed May  4 23:10:59 2005
From: Kevin at artsalliancemedia.com (Kevin Manley)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 22:10:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] has our talk been accepted?
Message-ID: <C0D5A9F70707BF4A877B35EE72BC6BAE5EDF61@THHS2EXBE1X.hostedservice2.net>

Hi, a few weeks ago I proposed a talk for the business track entitled
"In Theaters Now!--How Python Runs the Largest Independent Cinema Chain
in the UK"
When should we expect to learn if the talk has been accepted?
Thanks, 
Kevin
 
 
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From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Thu May  5 08:47:17 2005
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 08:47:17 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] has our talk been accepted?
In-Reply-To: <C0D5A9F70707BF4A877B35EE72BC6BAE5EDF61@THHS2EXBE1X.hostedservice2.net>
References: <C0D5A9F70707BF4A877B35EE72BC6BAE5EDF61@THHS2EXBE1X.hostedservice2.net>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d05050423475e3bb00a@mail.gmail.com>

Kevin,

there were internet and server problems on the last submitting days of 30.4. 
and 1.5.

So we extended the talk submitting period up to 8.Mai.

It's up to the track chair to create his track layout, consisting of 
accepting or rejecting talks, from 9. Mai to 10. Mai.

So within that timeframe; extensions not impossible, John Pinner (your 
trackchair) will be able to let you know. 

On a side note: John is with PyThyme, a payroll software; and he told me it 
is "payroll season in UK", whatever that is - it means he is on the road 
with a stuckload of work.

I hope intensly that you are able to grant EuroPython some patience ... I 
know it is challenging, had that feeling with my first talk proposal 3 years 
ago 

Harald

2005/5/4, Kevin Manley <Kevin at artsalliancemedia.com>:
> 
> Hi, a few weeks ago I proposed a talk for the business track entitled
> "In Theaters Now!--How Python Runs the Largest Independent Cinema Chain in 
> the UK"
> When should we expect to learn if the talk has been accepted?
> Thanks, 
> Kevin
>   
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 
> 
> 


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From mal at egenix.com  Thu May  5 12:21:30 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 12:21:30 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Python Framework track (has our talk been
	accepted?)
In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d05050423475e3bb00a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C0D5A9F70707BF4A877B35EE72BC6BAE5EDF61@THHS2EXBE1X.hostedservice2.net>
	<7be3f35d05050423475e3bb00a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4279F3AA.4040305@egenix.com>

Harald Armin Massa wrote:
> It's up to the track chair to create his track layout, consisting of 
> accepting or rejecting talks, from 9. Mai to 10. Mai.

Related to this: what about tracks that are current listed
as missing a track chair ?

I've submitted a talk to the Python Framework track,
but it is still listed as having a vacant track chair.

Looking at http://pbf.strakt.com:8080/list.chtml I found
14 (!) talks (if I counted correctly) registered for that
track, so there definitely seems to be an interest in the
track.

The other popular tracks are Zope, Business and Science, but these
all have track chairs in place.

I'd be willing to help out with track chairing for the
Framework track, if there'd be two or three others joining in -
with a team of three or four for the track, the job could be
leveraged to still allow attending other talks during the
conference.

Merging tracks would be a possibility, e.g. Python + Framework
+ Misfits.

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From jacob at strakt.com  Thu May  5 15:08:28 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 15:08:28 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Python Framework track (has our talk been
	accepted?)
In-Reply-To: <4279F3AA.4040305@egenix.com>
References: <C0D5A9F70707BF4A877B35EE72BC6BAE5EDF61@THHS2EXBE1X.hostedservice2.net>
	<7be3f35d05050423475e3bb00a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4279F3AA.4040305@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <200505051508.28281.jacob@strakt.com>

torsdag 05 maj 2005 12.21 skrev M.-A. Lemburg:
> I'd be willing to help out with track chairing for the
> Framework track, if there'd be two or three others joining in -
> with a team of three or four for the track, the job could be
> leveraged to still allow attending other talks during the
> conference.

Thanks for your offer. I'm sure I can find one or two people at Strakt who can 
be drafted into doing part of the track chairing as well, so I think we have 
a working solution for that part.

The other part of track chairing is to review the submitted talks to see that 
we aren't getting something that is unwanted. Either that we have talks that 
overlap too much, there is something that seems to be sub-standard or if 
there is something where it would be useful to ask the speaker to modify 
his/her approach to the subject. Would you be able to make such a review of 
the registered talks?

Jacob Hall?n

From jacob at strakt.com  Thu May  5 17:11:38 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2005 17:11:38 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Listing talks per track
Message-ID: <200505051711.38398.jacob@strakt.com>

You can now see all talks divided up between the tracks at 
http://www.python-in-business.org/ep2005/tracks.chtml

I'd like all the track chairs to start looking at the talks, so you can tell 
me if there are any talks you don't want to approve.

Please send me an email when you have done your check. If I don't have an 
email by the 11th, I will note all your talks as approved and they will be on 
the public display of talks for the conference.

Jacob

From mal at egenix.com  Thu May  5 17:19:11 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 05 May 2005 17:19:11 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Python Framework track (has our talk been
	accepted?)
In-Reply-To: <200505051508.28281.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <C0D5A9F70707BF4A877B35EE72BC6BAE5EDF61@THHS2EXBE1X.hostedservice2.net>	<7be3f35d05050423475e3bb00a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4279F3AA.4040305@egenix.com> <200505051508.28281.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <427A396F.4010007@egenix.com>

Jacob Hallen wrote:
> torsdag 05 maj 2005 12.21 skrev M.-A. Lemburg:
> 
>>I'd be willing to help out with track chairing for the
>>Framework track, if there'd be two or three others joining in -
>>with a team of three or four for the track, the job could be
>>leveraged to still allow attending other talks during the
>>conference.
> 
> Thanks for your offer. I'm sure I can find one or two people at Strakt who can 
> be drafted into doing part of the track chairing as well, so I think we have 
> a working solution for that part.

Should work: I think that one of the track chairs should be
present for the intro to each new talk.

If possible, I would not like the framework and business
tracks to overlap, since I'd like to attend a few of the
business talks.

> The other part of track chairing is to review the submitted talks to see that 
> we aren't getting something that is unwanted. Either that we have talks that 
> overlap too much, there is something that seems to be sub-standard or if 
> there is something where it would be useful to ask the speaker to modify 
> his/her approach to the subject. Would you be able to make such a review of 
> the registered talks?

Depends on the timeframe - I'm very busy at the moment, so I could
only spare an hour or two. I would need to know the following
things:

* How many 30-minute slots are available for the track ?
* On which days would those slots be happening ?
* Is it possible to combine 30-minute slots ?
* Is it possible to reassign talks to other tracks ?
* Where's the web-interface for the track database ?
* What's the deadline for approval decisions ?

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From ct at gocept.com  Fri May  6 15:08:12 2005
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 15:08:12 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] weird calendar
Message-ID: <1115384892.24684.13.camel@admin.localhost>

Hi,

the registration form has a weird calendar. It goes like this:

Friday 1 July,
Saturday 2 July,
Sunday 5 July.

You are stealing two days from my life! ;)

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From faassen at infrae.com  Fri May  6 14:16:19 2005
From: faassen at infrae.com (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:16:19 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Python Framework track (has our talk been
	accepted?)
In-Reply-To: <4279F3AA.4040305@egenix.com>
References: <C0D5A9F70707BF4A877B35EE72BC6BAE5EDF61@THHS2EXBE1X.hostedservice2.net>	<7be3f35d05050423475e3bb00a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4279F3AA.4040305@egenix.com>
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M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
[snip]
> I'd be willing to help out with track chairing for the
> Framework track, if there'd be two or three others joining in -
> with a team of three or four for the track, the job could be
> leveraged to still allow attending other talks during the
> conference.

I'm willing to join in if there is indeed a team, though I'm wary of 
taking on too much responsibility. I've track chaired 3 times and I 
would like some time off. In addition I've also submitted two talks, so 
if those happen I'll be busy enough.

If it's a bit of preparatory work in talk selection and communication 
with the people who submitted a talk that would be better than having to 
be present at the track itself, introducing talks and making sure things 
end on time, etc.

Regards,

Martijn

From mal at egenix.com  Fri May  6 14:44:56 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 14:44:56 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Python Framework track (has our talk been
	accepted?)
In-Reply-To: <427B6013.7050308@infrae.com>
References: <C0D5A9F70707BF4A877B35EE72BC6BAE5EDF61@THHS2EXBE1X.hostedservice2.net>	<7be3f35d05050423475e3bb00a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4279F3AA.4040305@egenix.com> <427B6013.7050308@infrae.com>
Message-ID: <427B66C8.1030704@egenix.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> [snip]
> 
>> I'd be willing to help out with track chairing for the
>> Framework track, if there'd be two or three others joining in -
>> with a team of three or four for the track, the job could be
>> leveraged to still allow attending other talks during the
>> conference.
> 
> I'm willing to join in if there is indeed a team, though I'm wary of
> taking on too much responsibility. I've track chaired 3 times and I
> would like some time off. In addition I've also submitted two talks, so
> if those happen I'll be busy enough.
> 
> If it's a bit of preparatory work in talk selection and communication
> with the people who submitted a talk that would be better than having to
> be present at the track itself, introducing talks and making sure things
> end on time, etc.

Any help is appreciated, so I'll count you in :-)

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From mal at egenix.com  Fri May  6 19:30:50 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 19:30:50 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Listing talks per track
In-Reply-To: <200505051711.38398.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <200505051711.38398.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <427BA9CA.5060300@egenix.com>

Jacob Hallen wrote:
> You can now see all talks divided up between the tracks at 
> http://www.python-in-business.org/ep2005/tracks.chtml

Thanks, Jacob.

Would it be possible to add the proposed duration of
the talk to the list (and maybe a link to the edit
screen) ?

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From mario at ruggier.org  Fri May  6 19:35:27 2005
From: mario at ruggier.org (Mario Ruggier)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2005 19:35:27 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] proposed talk, plus directions
Message-ID: <6810a8ba4e0d88af73851500d2af3d14@ruggier.org>

Hello,

I have recently filled out a Python Frameworks talk proposal, the form 
being linked from the eurpython.org site, and as there was no kind of 
friendly feedback (and a few confusing tracebacks during submission 
process) I was wondering if all is ok with the proposal?

I have seen the update today from Jacob Hallen, and if i understand 
correctly you will therefore publish which talks are accepted on May 
11th. Will this be the only feedback provided, or could you also tell 
whether what I have disclosed is sufficient, or if you see obvious 
modifications that I should make?

Another question, would you by any chance know of a good inexpensive 
combo of connections (flights/train/bus) to get there from Geneva?

Thanking you in advance...


With my best regards,
	
	Mario Ruggier

183 rue Vieux Bourg, F-01170 S?gny
+33.4.50.41.96.14, mario at ruggier.org


From magnus at thinkware.se  Fri May  6 23:27:40 2005
From: magnus at thinkware.se (Magnus Lycka)
Date: Fri,  6 May 2005 23:27:40 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] =?iso-8859-1?q?proposed_talk=2C_plus_directions?=
Message-ID: <think001_427bde5a47bca@webmail.thinkware.se>

> Another question, would you by any chance know of a good inexpensive 
> combo of connections (flights/train/bus) to get there from Geneva?

If you can get to St. Etienne (Lyon) or Friedrichshafen, you can fly Ryan
Air to G?teborg via London Stanstead. See www.ryanair.com

Another option would be if you find a way to get to Franfurt Hahn,
then you can fly Ryan Air directly.


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From limi at plone.org  Sat May  7 02:25:25 2005
From: limi at plone.org (Alexander Limi)
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 02:25:25 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Web site is pretty much unreadable in Safari
Message-ID: <op.sqdp4nguvhba00@plym.local>

Hi,

The EP website is pretty much unreadable in Safari on the Mac, it has  
5-6px fonts or thereabouts. FYI. :)

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From jmo at ita.chalmers.se  Sat May  7 13:41:44 2005
From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet)
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 13:41:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Web site is pretty much unreadable in Safari
In-Reply-To: <op.sqdp4nguvhba00@plym.local>
References: <op.sqdp4nguvhba00@plym.local>
Message-ID: <427CA978.5030708@ita.chalmers.se>

Alexander Limi wrote:

>Hi,
>
>The EP website is pretty much unreadable in Safari on the Mac, it has  
>5-6px fonts or thereabouts. FYI. :)
>
>  
>
Hi!
do you mean on the text in the boxes on front page?

I've increased it a bit.

The font sizes are fixed, so it might be problematic with IE, but I
think that Safari can scale fonts, can't it?

/JM

From limi at plone.org  Sat May  7 16:00:44 2005
From: limi at plone.org (Alexander Limi)
Date: Sat, 07 May 2005 16:00:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Web site is pretty much unreadable in Safari
In-Reply-To: <427CA978.5030708@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <op.sqdp4nguvhba00@plym.local> <427CA978.5030708@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <op.sqervi18vhba00@plym.local>

On Sat, 07 May 2005 13:41:44 +0200, Jean-Marc Orliaguet  
<jmo at ita.chalmers.se> wrote:

> do you mean on the text in the boxes on front page?

Yes.

> I've increased it a bit.

Looks better now, still hard to read tiny, red text on stripy background,  
but at least it's readable if you concentrate now. :)

> The font sizes are fixed, so it might be problematic with IE, but I
> think that Safari can scale fonts, can't it?

Yes. This is not related to font scaling in browsers as such. I could of  
course have used the Zoom option, but the default should be readable, IMHO.

Thanks for fixing.

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From mal at egenix.com  Sun May  8 23:44:53 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sun, 08 May 2005 23:44:53 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Python Framework track (has our talk
	been	accepted?)
In-Reply-To: <427A396F.4010007@egenix.com>
References: <C0D5A9F70707BF4A877B35EE72BC6BAE5EDF61@THHS2EXBE1X.hostedservice2.net>	<7be3f35d05050423475e3bb00a@mail.gmail.com>	<4279F3AA.4040305@egenix.com>
	<200505051508.28281.jacob@strakt.com> <427A396F.4010007@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <427E8855.8070805@egenix.com>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Jacob Hallen wrote:
> 
>>torsdag 05 maj 2005 12.21 skrev M.-A. Lemburg:
>
>>>I'd be willing to help out with track chairing for the
>>>>>Framework track, if there'd be two or three others joining in -
>>>>>with a team of three or four for the track, the job could be
>>>>>leveraged to still allow attending other talks during the
>>>>>conference.
>>
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your offer. I'm sure I can find one or two people at Strakt who can 
>>> be drafted into doing part of the track chairing as well, so I think we have 
>>> a working solution for that part.
> 
> 
> Should work: I think that one of the track chairs should be
> present for the intro to each new talk.
> 
> If possible, I would not like the framework and business
> tracks to overlap, since I'd like to attend a few of the
> business talks.
> 
>>The other part of track chairing is to review the submitted talks to see that 
>>> we aren't getting something that is unwanted. Either that we have talks that 
>>> overlap too much, there is something that seems to be sub-standard or if 
>>> there is something where it would be useful to ask the speaker to modify 
>>> his/her approach to the subject. Would you be able to make such a review of 
>>> the registered talks?
> 
> 
> Depends on the timeframe - I'm very busy at the moment, so I could
> only spare an hour or two. I would need to know the following
> things:
> 
> * How many 30-minute slots are available for the track ?
> * On which days would those slots be happening ?
> * Is it possible to combine 30-minute slots ?
> * Is it possible to reassign talks to other tracks ?
> * Where's the web-interface for the track database ?
> * What's the deadline for approval decisions ?

Hi Jacob,

please provide some feedback on the above questions and
also give me the email addresses and names of the Strakt
helpers for the track chairing.

Without this information, I don't see how we could make
proper decisions before May 11th.

Thanks,
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From paul at zope-europe.org  Mon May  9 10:20:41 2005
From: paul at zope-europe.org (Paul Everitt)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 10:20:41 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Q: Link to review submitted talks
Message-ID: <DBE25883-50BA-475C-A4DD-7F986459D50A@zope-europe.org>


Hi all.  This is a question for the admin of the talk registration  
db.  What is the URL for track chairs to review the submitted  
proposals and arrange them into a schedule?

--Paul

From mlzini at yahoo.com  Mon May  9 11:52:42 2005
From: mlzini at yahoo.com (Manuel Zini)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 11:52:42 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [EuroPython] registration question
Message-ID: <20050509095242.67634.qmail@web31005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

A simple question:

we submitted a talk and we don't know if it is going
to be accepted.
But we want to register immediately to get the student
house accomodation.
What if we register as speaker and the talk is not
accepted ?
Can we pay the difference once at the conference ?

thank you very much in advance,
Manuel Zini



		
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From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Mon May  9 13:48:18 2005
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 13:48:18 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] registration question
In-Reply-To: <20050509095242.67634.qmail@web31005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20050509095242.67634.qmail@web31005.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d05050904486ca80e9e@mail.gmail.com>

Manuel,
 yes, if you do not get accepted as a speaker there will be solutions to 
allow you to pay the difference to normal early bird fee.
 Harald

 2005/5/9, Manuel Zini <mlzini at yahoo.com>: 
> 
> A simple question:
> 
> we submitted a talk and we don't know if it is going
> to be accepted.
> But we want to register immediately to get the student
> house accomodation.
> What if we register as speaker and the talk is not
> accepted ?
> Can we pay the difference once at the conference ?
> 
> thank you very much in advance,
> Manuel Zini
> 
> 
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> 
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From faassen at infrae.com  Mon May  9 16:47:49 2005
From: faassen at infrae.com (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 16:47:49 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Python Framework track (has our talk been
	accepted?)
In-Reply-To: <427B66C8.1030704@egenix.com>
References: <C0D5A9F70707BF4A877B35EE72BC6BAE5EDF61@THHS2EXBE1X.hostedservice2.net>	<7be3f35d05050423475e3bb00a@mail.gmail.com>	<4279F3AA.4040305@egenix.com>
	<427B6013.7050308@infrae.com> <427B66C8.1030704@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <427F7815.9070905@infrae.com>

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
[snip]
>>If it's a bit of preparatory work in talk selection and communication
>>with the people who submitted a talk that would be better than having to
>>be present at the track itself, introducing talks and making sure things
>>end on time, etc.

> Any help is appreciated, so I'll count you in :-)

Cool. :). Note that I'll not be online much the coming few days, so if 
you want to decide before may 11.. I'm not around enough..

My personal preference is more 30 minute talks, and try to avoid 
combining talks into 60 minute blocks.

Your questions elsewhere in the thread make sense; we need to know how 
many slots we have. Since it looks like the framework track will be one 
of the bigger one this year I hope this gets reflected.

Just hypothetically, if we were to accept all 15 talks, and one talk 
would indeed be 60 minutes (I see Steve Alexander proposed one) the rest 
30 minutes, then we'd need 8 hours for the frameworks track.

Regards,

Martijn

From mal at egenix.com  Mon May  9 17:53:32 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 17:53:32 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Python Framework track (has our talk been
	accepted?)
In-Reply-To: <427F7815.9070905@infrae.com>
References: <C0D5A9F70707BF4A877B35EE72BC6BAE5EDF61@THHS2EXBE1X.hostedservice2.net>	<7be3f35d05050423475e3bb00a@mail.gmail.com>	<4279F3AA.4040305@egenix.com>	<427B6013.7050308@infrae.com>
	<427B66C8.1030704@egenix.com> <427F7815.9070905@infrae.com>
Message-ID: <427F877C.4030709@egenix.com>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> [snip]
> 
>>> If it's a bit of preparatory work in talk selection and communication
>>> with the people who submitted a talk that would be better than having to
>>> be present at the track itself, introducing talks and making sure things
>>> end on time, etc.
> 
> 
>> Any help is appreciated, so I'll count you in :-)
> 
> 
> Cool. :). Note that I'll not be online much the coming few days, so if
> you want to decide before may 11.. I'm not around enough..

Ok, please review the list of registered talks and
give me your feedback as 1-10 rating (1 - not all that interesting,
10 - must have this one) for each talk:

http://www.python-in-business.org/ep2005/tracks.chtml

> My personal preference is more 30 minute talks, and try to avoid
> combining talks into 60 minute blocks.
> 
> Your questions elsewhere in the thread make sense; we need to know how
> many slots we have. Since it looks like the framework track will be one
> of the bigger one this year I hope this gets reflected.
> 
> Just hypothetically, if we were to accept all 15 talks, and one talk
> would indeed be 60 minutes (I see Steve Alexander proposed one) the rest
> 30 minutes, then we'd need 8 hours for the frameworks track.

My own talk proposal is for 60 minutes as well - it's hard
to fit a complex subject into 30 minutes.

In any case, I agree that we'll probably need 8 hours total.

I would welcome joining forces with some of the smaller tracks,
e.g. the Misfits and the Python language tracks.

If we could get 4 people for the on-site track
chairing, then each of us would only have to spend 2 hours
attending the track and we could then still enjoy the rest
of the conference.

The more people help out, the better for everyone !

BTW, I would like to repeat my request that the Python framework
track and the business track not overlap; not just because
I'd like to attend some business talks as well, but also
because I find that both tracks have lots of interesting
talks to offer and give a good view on Python from the
business and the developer perspective - which is a first
at EuroPython !

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From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May  9 22:28:43 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2005 22:28:43 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Meeting Tuesday 10 May 18.00 CET
Message-ID: <200505092228.43249.jacob@strakt.com>

We will have a progress meeting Tuesday at 18.00 CET.

As usual we will be on the #europython channel on the freenode IRC network.

The focus of the meeting will be to get the list of talks publshed.

We now have 91 talks and 2 lightning talks registered. A few of the talks 
entries need editing before being published.

There a a few things that should be changing in the list of talks:

- We have only 1 talk in the Education track. If there are any talks in other 
tracks that fit, we should try to get them moved. If we can find any other 
nice talks for the Education track, we should try to get them. I have one 
person who spoke at Pycon that I can contact.

- If there are other tracks with few talks that want to invite special 
persons, you can do so

- I have a few special people I will want to invite. I should get around to 
sending the invitations this week.

In any case, we should be getting a rather nice set of talks. For part of the 
conference we might want to run a fifth room. Since we are renting rooms by 
the hour, the cost of a fifth room will not be very high.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From arigo at tunes.org  Tue May 10 10:49:51 2005
From: arigo at tunes.org (Armin Rigo)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 10:49:51 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Meeting Tuesday 10 May 18.00 CET
In-Reply-To: <200505092228.43249.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <200505092228.43249.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <20050510084951.GA32316@code1.codespeak.net>

Hi,

On Mon, May 09, 2005 at 10:28:43PM +0200, Jacob Hall?n wrote:
> - We have only 1 talk in the Education track. If there are any talks in other 
> tracks that fit, we should try to get them moved.

The refereed papers track has a potential candidate: A Simple Python
Framework for Introducing Component Principles.  But although it is
about education I think it fits in refereed papers quite well, so I'd be
happy to keep it if possible.

By contrast, the talk CPS Platform Framework appears to be rather more
business-oriented than the others in refereed papers, so I wouldn't mind
if some other track chair would like to grab it :-)

All in all I think the refereed papers proposals of this year are
excellent, and we start to see talks of a somewhat more "academic"
nature than last year's -- an encouraging step towards the purpose of
the track.


Armin

From francesco at reflab.com  Tue May 10 12:40:55 2005
From: francesco at reflab.com (Francesco Ciriaci)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:40:55 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Problem with invoices
Message-ID: <1115721655.4857.19.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Hi,

I made a registration for myself but my company is paying, not me, thus
the invoice should indicate the organization name (in case the VAT ID).

How do I do?

Moreover I'd like to registrer for 3 persons (from the same company) and
have only one invoice. For now I did the registration and payment only
for me because I could not find how to do a bulk registration.

regards,
francesco ciriaci.

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From mal at egenix.com  Tue May 10 12:48:15 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:48:15 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Meeting Tuesday 10 May 18.00 CET
In-Reply-To: <200505092228.43249.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <200505092228.43249.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <4280916F.2050701@egenix.com>

Jacob Hall?n wrote:
> We will have a progress meeting Tuesday at 18.00 CET.

I'm not sure I can attend, but in any case: are you sure that
you meant CET and not CEST (summer time).

Please also give some feedback on the questions I posted to
the list, otherwise I won't be able to do the track chairing
for the framework track.

Thanks,
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From faassen at infrae.com  Tue May 10 13:07:29 2005
From: faassen at infrae.com (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 13:07:29 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Meeting Tuesday 10 May 18.00 CET
In-Reply-To: <200505092228.43249.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <200505092228.43249.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <428095F1.9080707@infrae.com>

Jacob Hall?n wrote:
> We will have a progress meeting Tuesday at 18.00 CET.

Unfortunately I'm leaving on a business trip this afternoon so won't be 
able to attend.

On the frameworks track, I just mailed some indications of talk 
preferences to Marc-Andre, though he isn't sure he can attend either. :)

Regards,

Martijn

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Tue May 10 13:03:39 2005
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 12:03:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Meeting Tuesday 10 May 18.00 CET
In-Reply-To: <200505092228.43249.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <200505092228.43249.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d05051004033fcf613f@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I am on the road without proper IN access to a chat client so I will 
not be able to attend.
 Harald

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From chris at chrismiles.info  Tue May 10 12:12:36 2005
From: chris at chrismiles.info (Chris Miles)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:12:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython registration: Accomodation arrival date
	wrong
Message-ID: <6E461247-2613-4606-B3EB-B3B69F823026@chrismiles.info>

Hiya,

I am trying to register for Europython, and have selected
   Accommodation: Full 2-bed room
   Arrival Day: Sat 25 June
   Departure Day: Wed 29 June

However, on the Confirmation and Total To Pay pages it says that the  
"Arrival date" is "2004-11-25".

Attached is pdf snapshot of the Total To Pay page, if that helps.   
I'm using OS X 10.4, and got same problem with both Safari and Firefox.

Please let me know when this has been corrected so I can complete the  
registration.

Cheers,
Chris

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From lac at strakt.com  Tue May 10 14:46:34 2005
From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 14:46:34 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Meeting Tuesday 10 May 18.00 CET
In-Reply-To: Message from "M.-A. Lemburg" <mal@egenix.com> 
	of "Tue, 10 May 2005 12:48:15 +0200." <4280916F.2050701@egenix.com> 
References: <200505092228.43249.jacob@strakt.com>
	<4280916F.2050701@egenix.com> 
Message-ID: <200505101246.j4ACkYAp005516@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

In a message of Tue, 10 May 2005 12:48:15 +0200, "M.-A. Lemburg" writes:
>Jacob Hall?n wrote:
>> We will have a progress meeting Tuesday at 18.00 CET.
>
>I'm not sure I can attend, but in any case: are you sure that
>you meant CET and not CEST (summer time).
>
>Please also give some feedback on the questions I posted to
>the list, otherwise I won't be able to do the track chairing
>for the framework track.
>
>Thanks,
>-- 
>Marc-Andre Lemburg
>eGenix.com

Jacob meant CEST.

Laura


From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Tue May 10 17:30:50 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 17:30:50 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Meeting Tuesday 10 May 18.00 CET
In-Reply-To: <200505101246.j4ACkYAp005516@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <200505092228.43249.jacob@strakt.com>	<4280916F.2050701@egenix.com>
	<200505101246.j4ACkYAp005516@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <4280D3AA.3080606@ita.chalmers.se>

I just realised I will possibly miss the meeeting today (i am one hour 
awy from home).

I will try to make an effort and be present though, as soon as I get home.

/dario

-- 
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From tim at pollenation.net  Wed May 11 10:58:24 2005
From: tim at pollenation.net (Tim Parkin)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 09:58:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Booking for two people to be in the same room
Message-ID: <4281C930.2000100@pollenation.net>

Hi,

We'd like to book two people for europython but wish to specify that
they are sharing a room (at the special accomodation).

Could you inform me how we specify this on the registration?

we want to book from June 25th to June 29th (5 nights) in a two person room

We would like to register for early bird registration for two people
also (Tim Parkin & Matt Goodall)

Many thanks for any help you can give,

Tim

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From chris at chrismiles.info  Wed May 11 15:02:42 2005
From: chris at chrismiles.info (Chris Miles)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 14:02:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython registration: Accomodation arrival date
	wrong
Message-ID: <7AEBD9CA-2B8C-4B75-B3E8-B67D63192BCB@chrismiles.info>

Hi guys - I have resent this request, removing the attachment so it  
doesn't get blocked.  Should I register anyway, will the arrival  
dates be sorted out afterwards?  Or is someone looking at fixing the  
form?

----
I am trying to register for Europython, and have selected
   Accommodation: Full 2-bed room
   Arrival Day: Sat 25 June
   Departure Day: Wed 29 June

However, on the Confirmation and Total To Pay pages it says that the  
"Arrival date" is "2004-11-25".

Attached is pdf snapshot of the Total To Pay page, if that helps.   
I'm using OS X 10.4, and got same problem with both Safari and Firefox.

Please let me know when this has been corrected so I can complete the  
registration.

Cheers,
Chris

-- 
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http://chrismiles.info/

From jacob at strakt.com  Wed May 11 15:07:45 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 15:07:45 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Booking for two people to be in the same room
In-Reply-To: <4281C930.2000100@pollenation.net>
References: <4281C930.2000100@pollenation.net>
Message-ID: <200505111507.45955.jacob@strakt.com>

onsdagen den 11 maj 2005 10.58 skrev Tim Parkin:
> Hi,
>
> We'd like to book two people for europython but wish to specify that
> they are sharing a room (at the special accomodation).
>
> Could you inform me how we specify this on the registration?
>
> we want to book from June 25th to June 29th (5 nights) in a two person room
>
> We would like to register for early bird registration for two people
> also (Tim Parkin & Matt Goodall)
>
> Many thanks for any help you can give,

You book a whole 2 person room on the registration of one of the attendees. 
This way you are assured that you don't have to share with anybody else.

The other alternative is that you book separately and arrange to share rooms 
on the wiki that will be set up for sharing purposes.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n

From raphael.marvie at lifl.fr  Wed May 11 23:38:06 2005
From: raphael.marvie at lifl.fr (Raphael Marvie)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 23:38:06 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython]  Framework Track Chair
Message-ID: <42827B3E.7030909@lifl.fr>


Dear EuroPython organizers,

Is being a track chair similar to "research" conferences? Meaning:
- managing the track, keeping it in time,
- introducing the speakers,
- managing the question session / ask question if no one does,
- etc.

If so, and if you still look for a chair for the framework track, I can 
offer to do it.

Cheers,

r.m.

-- 
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Phone: +33 3 2877 8583

From mwh at python.net  Wed May 11 23:45:50 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 22:45:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Framework Track Chair
In-Reply-To: <42827B3E.7030909@lifl.fr> (Raphael Marvie's message of "Wed,
	11 May 2005 23:38:06 +0200")
References: <42827B3E.7030909@lifl.fr>
Message-ID: <2m4qd98mi9.fsf@starship.python.net>

Raphael Marvie <raphael.marvie at lifl.fr> writes:

> Dear EuroPython organizers,
>
> Is being a track chair similar to "research" conferences? Meaning:
> - managing the track, keeping it in time,
> - introducing the speakers,
> - managing the question session / ask question if no one does,
> - etc.

Yes, plus sorting out the content of the track.

> If so, and if you still look for a chair for the framework track, I can 
> offer to do it.

Well currently we have two half-a-chairmen, I think.  I would guess
they'd be happy to relinquish that, though...

Cheers,
mwh

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From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Thu May 12 08:32:01 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:32:01 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Sprinting area confirmed
Message-ID: <4282F861.20206@ita.chalmers.se>

Hello,

A quick notice to let you all know that I just received confirmation 
that the Sprinting and Post-Conference Lounge Area we used last year 
will be available this year too.

I will get back to you with the small details RSN.

/dario

-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
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"...and click? damn, I need to kill -9 Word again..." - b using macosx

From mwh at python.net  Thu May 12 09:23:47 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 08:23:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sprinting area confirmed
In-Reply-To: <4282F861.20206@ita.chalmers.se> (
	=?iso-8859-1?q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten's_message_of?= "Thu, 12 May 2005
	08:32:01 +0200")
References: <4282F861.20206@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <2mfyws7vr0.fsf@starship.python.net>

Dario Lopez-K?sten <dario at ita.chalmers.se> writes:

> Hello,
>
> A quick notice to let you all know that I just received confirmation 
> that the Sprinting and Post-Conference Lounge Area we used last year 
> will be available this year too.

Awesome!  Thanks for sorting all this stuff out.

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
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  I'm sure all will agree that's a reasonable compromise.
                               -- Tim Peters negotiating on python-dev

From Sandis.Zacs at lattelekom.lv  Thu May 12 10:36:31 2005
From: Sandis.Zacs at lattelekom.lv (Sandis Zacs)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 11:36:31 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Invoice request for EuroPython2005 registration
Message-ID: <593D8B10B2409E468D3E916CA156C84D0472A30E@mail02.ad.telekom.lv>

Dear Jacob Hallen,

 I still have not received invoice not in paper nor electronic format.
I am worring that We can't pay this invoice in required time.

Regards,
Sandis

-----Original Message-----
From: Sandis Zacs 
Sent: pirmdiena, 2005. gada 9. maij? 11:36
To: 'Jacob Hall?n'
Subject: RE: [EuroPython] Invoice request for EuroPython2005 registration


Dear Jacob Hallen,

Could You sent the copy of invoice by mail as soon as possible so we could pay in time for "early birds" prices.

Best Regards,
Sandis

-----Original Message-----
From: Sandis Zacs 
Sent: tre?diena, 2005. gada 4. maij? 15:02
To: 'Jacob Hall?n'
Subject: RE: [EuroPython] Invoice request for EuroPython2005 registration


Ok.
Please send also electronic copy of invoice to me.

Regards,
Sadis

-----Original Message-----
From: Jacob Hall?n [mailto:jacob at strakt.com] 
Sent: pirmdiena, 2005. gada 2. maij? 19:13
To: Sandis Zacs
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Invoice request for EuroPython2005 registration


On m?ndag 02 maj 2005 06:54, Sandis Zacs wrote:
> Dear Jacob Hallen,
>
>  I check Your new registration system but our finanse departments 
> didn't accept these web invoices.  First of all we need invoice in 
> paper format with signatures and stamp of Your organization.
>   It will be nice if there will be only one invoice, not seperate for 
> each attendance.

Ok, I will prepare a separate invoice for you. I can add a signature as well, 
but we do not have a stamp. It is not part of what organisations or companies 
usually have in Sweden.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n

From limi at plone.org  Thu May 12 17:16:44 2005
From: limi at plone.org (Alexander Limi)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 17:16:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Plone sprint before the conference starts
Message-ID: <op.sqn4p6wjvhba00@plym.local>

Hi,

We were planning to do a Plone sprint at EuroPython, but have to do it  
before the conference starts, as people don't have time in the days  
following the conference.

As I understood it, we would have to ask you about this to get approval  
and to make sure it could be arranged.

More information can be found here:
http://www.python.org/moin/PloneOrgMigration

Thanks! Looking forward to see you all at EuroPython this year! :)

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From mal at egenix.com  Fri May 13 13:17:13 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:17:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Framework Track Chair
In-Reply-To: <42827B3E.7030909@lifl.fr>
References: <42827B3E.7030909@lifl.fr>
Message-ID: <42848CB9.2000403@egenix.com>

Raphael Marvie wrote:
> Dear EuroPython organizers,
> 
> Is being a track chair similar to "research" conferences? Meaning:
> - managing the track, keeping it in time,
> - introducing the speakers,
> - managing the question session / ask question if no one does,
> - etc.
> 
> If so, and if you still look for a chair for the framework track, I can 
> offer to do it.

Hi Raphael,

the web-pages needs to be updated: we've put together a
team of volunteers to do the track chairing with Martijn
Faassen and myself currently doing the organizing and
a few speakers helping out at the conference.

However, we're still looking for volunteers to help with the
above three points and are also interested in hearing feedback
about the registered talks.

Can I sign you up as additional team member to host a 90-minute
track slot ?

Thanks,
-- 
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From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Fri May 13 13:18:34 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 13:18:34 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Plone sprint before the conference starts
In-Reply-To: <op.sqn4p6wjvhba00@plym.local>
References: <op.sqn4p6wjvhba00@plym.local>
Message-ID: <42848D0A.1070308@ita.chalmers.se>

Alexander Limi wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> We were planning to do a Plone sprint at EuroPython, but have to do it  
> before the conference starts, as people don't have time in the days  
> following the conference.
> 
> As I understood it, we would have to ask you about this to get approval  
> and to make sure it could be arranged.
> 
> More information can be found here:
> http://www.python.org/moin/PloneOrgMigration
> 
> Thanks! Looking forward to see you all at EuroPython this year! :)
> 

Yes, there will be a sprinting area. It will be avaialbel from the week 
before the conference and also afterwards. THe weekend before the 
confernce is Midsummer, but the rooms are avialble during the weekned too.

/dario

-- 
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From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Fri May 13 14:13:13 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2005 14:13:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Nomination
In-Reply-To: <42848D0A.1070308@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <op.sqn4p6wjvhba00@plym.local> <42848D0A.1070308@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <428499D9.7050704@ita.chalmers.se>

Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote:
> 
> Yes, there will be a sprinting area. It will be avaialbel from the week 
> before the conference and also afterwards. THe weekend before the 
> confernce is Midsummer, but the rooms are avialble during the weekned too.
> 
> /dario
> 


*sigh* Folks, I hereby nominate myself to the position of "Spelink Ing" 
of the conference. As far as I can tell, I make more spelling mistakes 
than the sum of the spelling errors everybody else on any of the lists I 
subscribe to make.

/dario - actively trying to type way, way slower than usual...

-- 
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From jpersson1 at yahoo.com  Sat May 14 00:05:53 2005
From: jpersson1 at yahoo.com (Jan Persson)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2005 00:05:53 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Typo
Message-ID: <20050513220533.0BB2D1E4002@bag.python.org>

Hi,

 

On the homepage it says: "and will move to CERN in Swizerland next year.",
but Switzerland is spelt with a t, so it should say: "and will move to CERN
in Switzerland next year.".

 

Best Regards

    //Jan Persson

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From andre.deparade at gmx.de  Sun May 15 13:43:22 2005
From: andre.deparade at gmx.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andr=E9_Deparade?=)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 12:43:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] late submissins to "business track" and "framework
	track"
Message-ID: <428735DA.6090708@gmx.de>

Dear Europython-Organisers!

Due to a busy schedule I missed the deadline for proposing talks. 
Nevertheless I filled in the "propose a talk"-form for the framework track 
and business track. I can give one talk on a current project. Depending on 
the main aspects it fits better to the business or framework track.

After finishing I have noticed that both proposed talks are listed in the 
"approved talks" pages. I think this could be a bug.

Could you please provide me some feedback on this issue?

I have also registerd myself with "early-bird normal rate".


kind regards,
Andr? Deparade

From paul at zope-europe.org  Sun May 15 18:20:38 2005
From: paul at zope-europe.org (Paul Everitt)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 18:20:38 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Q: Push back early bird?
Message-ID: <D091BA66-6898-41AD-BE39-5ACDA696ACC0@zope-europe.org>


Hi all.  This says:

   http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/ 
registration_informa

....that early bird ends today, and this:

   http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/special_accomodation

...implies that tomorrow is the last day for getting the SGS  
Veckobost?der dorm-style rooms as part of registration.

Unfortunately, my guess is that less than 100% of track chairs have  
published their speaker selections. :^)  Thus, people don't know  
whether to register for the speaker rate or the attendee rate.

Until we have confirmation from track chairs, can we extend the early  
bird a bit, perhaps end-of-this-week?

--Paul

From robert at serfs.se  Sun May 15 22:35:34 2005
From: robert at serfs.se (Robert Christenson)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:35:34 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] student early bird?
Message-ID: <4287B295.2090105@serfs.se>

Hi, recently registered for the EuroPython conference in Gothenburg june 
27-29. I'm a student and was planning to register as "Student early 
bird" (100?). But when I was to send in my registration there was no 
option for student early bird in the "Attendance selection" drop down. 
So I selected Early bird 160?. I paid by credit card. I hope you can 
make a 60? surcharge from my credit card so that I will pay the right 
ammount.

regards Robert
(robert at serfs.se)

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From jacob at strakt.com  Sun May 15 23:51:22 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 23:51:22 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Q: Push back early bird?
In-Reply-To: <D091BA66-6898-41AD-BE39-5ACDA696ACC0@zope-europe.org>
References: <D091BA66-6898-41AD-BE39-5ACDA696ACC0@zope-europe.org>
Message-ID: <200505152351.22602.jacob@strakt.com>

s?ndag 15 maj 2005 18.20 skrev Paul Everitt:
> Hi all.  This says:
>
>    http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/
> registration_informa
>
> ....that early bird ends today, and this:
>
>    http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/special_accomodation
>
> ...implies that tomorrow is the last day for getting the SGS
> Veckobost?der dorm-style rooms as part of registration.
>
> Unfortunately, my guess is that less than 100% of track chairs have
> published their speaker selections. :^)  Thus, people don't know
> whether to register for the speaker rate or the attendee rate.
>
> Until we have confirmation from track chairs, can we extend the early
> bird a bit, perhaps end-of-this-week?

You get to register as a speaker if you have submitted a (serious) proposal. 
You don't have to be accepted as a speaker.

Also, since I got no word to the contrary, we are currently claiming that we 
are running all the talks that have been registered. Where to find the list 
of talks has been widely published.

I'm not all that happy with extending early-bird, because I think it sets the 
wrong expectations. If there is a strong opinion for extending, I will accept 
doing so, but I need to here more voices before changing my mind. A 
possibility is extending earl-bird for speakers only.

Jacob



From andre.roberge at ns.sympatico.ca  Mon May 16 03:28:06 2005
From: andre.roberge at ns.sympatico.ca (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Roberge?=)
Date: Sun, 15 May 2005 22:28:06 -0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk on RUR-PLE
Message-ID: <4287F726.3080200@ns.sympatico.ca>

Dear Laura Creighton and other Europython organisers,

I am sending this message as a follow-up to a message
received from Laura Creighton, and reproduced below. 
I have replied to the original message, and sent a further
follow-up, but haven't received anything in return. 
I do realise that conferences such as these rely heavily on the
work of busy volunteers, and would not want to have this message
to be construed as a negative criticism.
Note that I have decided to send this message from a different address 
than the one
(andre.roberge at gmail.com) which was used to reach me originally,
as I have nagging doubts about whether messages sent from my
gmail account are getting through.

I have entered the proposed description of my talk on the Europython
website.  Although I indicated a proposed length of 90 minutes, I could
easily shorten my talk if desired.   Note that I have not (yet) 
registered for
the conference.

Due to my work, I will be travelling elsewhere in Canada during the
week of June 5-12, and I am scheduled to be in Austria from
June 17 until June 24 (tentative dates).

Because of my work committments, I would really like to have
everything set up for Europython before June 1. 

Yours sincerely,

(Dr.)  Andr?  (Roberge)


On 5/9/05, Laura Creighton <lac at strakt.com> wrote:
 > The Europython organisers would like to commission a talk on
 > RUR-PLE  in the education track at Europython.  see: 
http://www.europython.org/
 > for details on Europython, held the end of next month.  We will pay your
 > airfaire and hotel if you will come and speak with us.
 >
 > Are you interested?
 >
 > Laura Creighton
 >

From reinout at vanrees.org  Mon May 16 09:19:43 2005
From: reinout at vanrees.org (Reinout van Rees)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:19:43 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] "getting to goteborg" page errors
Message-ID: <d38911975aa5ff353a2240323565579f@vanrees.org>

Hello all,

There are two faulty links on the "getting to goteborg" page.

* steanaline.se => stenaline.se (though probably better stenaline.com?)

* the landvetter airport link doesn't work (at least at the moment). 
For me it is
   http://www.lfv.se/templates/LFV_AirportStartPage____2570.aspx but I 
don't know how
   permanent such an URI is...

See you in Goteborg!

Reinout

-- 
Reinout van Rees                  r.van.rees at zestsoftware.nl
http://vanrees.org/weblog/            http://zestsoftware.nl
"engineer: a mechanism for converting caffeine into designs"


From H.FANGOHR at soton.ac.uk  Mon May 16 09:19:36 2005
From: H.FANGOHR at soton.ac.uk (Hans Fangohr)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 08:19:36 +0100 (BST)
Subject: [EuroPython] registration problem: no speaker tariff
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0505160818050.10023@binx.sesnet.soton.ac.uk>

Hi,

I tried to register for the Early-bird speaker tariff but on the drop down 
list for "Attendance selection" there is no 'speaker' tariff.

What do you suggest?


Thanks,

Hans


-------------------------------------------------
Dr Hans Fangohr

Computational Engineering & Design Research Group
School of Engineering Sciences
University of Southampton
Southampton, SO17 1BJ
United Kingdom

Location: Building 25, Room 1027
phone : +44 (0) 23 8059 8345
fax   : +44 (0) 23 8059 7082
email : fangohr at soton.ac.uk
-------------------------------------------------


From mathias.foehr at actuarcalc.lu  Mon May 16 09:41:57 2005
From: mathias.foehr at actuarcalc.lu (Mathias Foehr)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 09:41:57 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython - Money Module
Message-ID: <42884EC5.80006@actuarcalc.lu>

High,

When is the sprint for the money module planned? I am pretty much 
interested to participate. Is it possible to download the existing code?

regards, Mathias


From kairit at tpu.ee  Mon May 16 11:16:33 2005
From: kairit at tpu.ee (Kairit Ott)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 12:16:33 +0300 (EEST)
Subject: [EuroPython] accomodation
Message-ID: <3723.193.40.238.143.1116234993.squirrel@www.tpu.ee>


Hello,

I am writing to you because of one problem. We have two persons from
Estonia, who would like to take part from the Europhyton annual
conference, but we stayed late with the registration. We most certainly
are going to do it this week, but is there any chance that we could get
the special accomadation that you offered and which had the last day for
reservation yesterday?

I am waiting for your answer,

Best wishes,

Kairit Ott
Assistant Manager
Centre for Educational Technology
Tallinn Univeristy
Narva road 25
10120 Tallinn, ESTONIA

Tel: 640 9355


From o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk  Mon May 16 12:08:51 2005
From: o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk (Oliver Cope)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:08:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Visa application
Message-ID: <42887133.5010605@ich.ucl.ac.uk>

Hi,

I recently registered for europython on behalf of one of my colleagues,
Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe. However to make the trip, he needs to obtain a
Schengen visa and this requires a letter from the conference organizers
providing proof of confirmed accommodation and details of the trip.

Would it be possible to send a letter to him for this purpose?

The letter should be addressed to:

Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe,
Institute of Child Health,
London,
WC1N 1EH,
UK.


Many thanks,

Olly.


From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Mon May 16 13:58:18 2005
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 13:58:18 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Q: Push back early bird?
In-Reply-To: <200505152351.22602.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <D091BA66-6898-41AD-BE39-5ACDA696ACC0@zope-europe.org>
	<200505152351.22602.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d05051604583b13d02c@mail.gmail.com>

I am also contra extending the early bird.

Besides: does acting as a track chair contain an "implicit registration"?

whatever: In Python we trust; verse 2 of the Zen says that explicit is 
better...

so I register now.

harald



2005/5/15, Jacob Hallen <jacob at strakt.com>:
> 
> s?ndag 15 maj 2005 18.20 skrev Paul Everitt:
> > Hi all. This says:
> >
> > http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/
> > registration_informa
> >
> > ....that early bird ends today, and this:
> >
> > http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/special_accomodation
> >
> > ...implies that tomorrow is the last day for getting the SGS
> > Veckobost?der dorm-style rooms as part of registration.
> >
> > Unfortunately, my guess is that less than 100% of track chairs have
> > published their speaker selections. :^) Thus, people don't know
> > whether to register for the speaker rate or the attendee rate.
> >
> > Until we have confirmation from track chairs, can we extend the early
> > bird a bit, perhaps end-of-this-week?
> 
> You get to register as a speaker if you have submitted a (serious) 
> proposal.
> You don't have to be accepted as a speaker.
> 
> Also, since I got no word to the contrary, we are currently claiming that 
> we
> are running all the talks that have been registered. Where to find the 
> list
> of talks has been widely published.
> 
> I'm not all that happy with extending early-bird, because I think it sets 
> the
> wrong expectations. If there is a strong opinion for extending, I will 
> accept
> doing so, but I need to here more voices before changing my mind. A
> possibility is extending earl-bird for speakers only.
> 
> Jacob
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 
> 


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From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Mon May 16 14:08:44 2005
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 14:08:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Whow. Registration and credit card payment
Message-ID: <7be3f35d050516050867934113@mail.gmail.com>

really really go well. Information is transferred to payment, I can 
select... it works good for me.

Thanks to Jacob for this implementation.

I was a little unsure about "food preferences", so I went into a little more 
detail, concerning how meat should be grilled and the appropriate direction 
for my preferred diet. Will these information be used for the composition of 
our ball room dinner?

curious

harald


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From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May 16 16:05:16 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 16:05:16 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Meeting Tuesday 17 May 18.00 CEST
Message-ID: <200505161605.16344.jacob@strakt.com>

We will have a status meeting Tuesday 17 May 18.00 CEST on the #europython 
channel of the freenode IRC network.

There will be reporting and discussions on how to market Europython to people 
outside the Python and Zope communities.

Some short reporting:

We currently have 124 people registed for the conference, which is slightly 
more than we had at the end of the early-bird period last year.

We still have some rooms available at SGS, and they are willing to let us 
continue reservations in them, so we will keep the accomodation alternatives 
open for as long as there are rooms left.

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From tero.matinlassi at mbconcert.fi  Mon May 16 16:23:11 2005
From: tero.matinlassi at mbconcert.fi (Tero Matinlassi)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 17:23:11 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Early bird registration fee?
Message-ID: <4288ACCF.6020603@mbconcert.fi>


Hello,

Registration page 
(http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/registration)
says "Last day for Early-bird registration is 16 May." which is today, 
but when I registered our company's people for the conference, the 
invoices turned out to be priced as normal (eg. 150 euros student price 
instead of 100 euros). The total price shows 776 euros, while it should 
be 4 * student (100 euros each) + 1 * corporate discount (128 euros) = 
528 euros total, if I'm not mistaken.

Here are the invoice numbers
001495
001503
001511
001537
001545

Could these invoices be adjusted to the right sums so we could pay them?

-Tero

-- 
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  _ |                                       H?meentie 16 D
||||) concert        www.mbconcert.fi      00530 Helsinki

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May 16 19:37:48 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 19:37:48 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Download and setup instructions for CAPSconference
	client
Message-ID: <200505161937.48368.jacob@strakt.com>

If you, as a track chair, want to manipulate your talks, you need to download, 
install and run a GUI client into the CAPSconference system that registers 
these things.

Linux:
1. Download 
http://www.strakt.com/~jacob/europython/Euroython_client.tar.gz

2. Unzip/untar

3. Do cd into the directory

4. do ./install.sh
Follow the instructions.
(You can now remove the unpacked directory.)

5. Run "straktclient --langauge=en" in the directory you selected under 4.
Follow the common instructions below.

Windows:
1. Download  http://www.strakt.com/~jacob/europython/Euroython_client.msi

2. Execute the Install.msi file.

3. Launch the installed CAPS client
Follow the common instructions below.

Common:

1. Enter your user name in the wizard unless it is already there and correct 
according to the list below:
pedronis
chauvat
pinner
bea
massa
everitt
aroldo
mwh
huima

If you are not on the list, and want to be able to log in, send me an email, 
and I will create an account for you.

2. You should be prompted for a password. If you are not, then you are 
probably prompted for a certificate. If so, something is wrong, and you need 
to mail me and decribe what problems you are having.

The password you need to enter, you have to get from me through a personal 
email. Send me an email, and I will send you a reply with the password.

3. You can now protect your personal certificate with a password. You may set 
it to an empty string. However, that will allow anyone who gets access to 
your certificate to access the CAPSconference system.

4. You should now get logged into the system.

5. In order to handle information about your track, you need to create a 
search for the talks that belong to your track. Use Searches/Create...
The type of object you are seaching for is "Presentation", and you want to 
search for "Track one of <your track>". "is exactly" will work too, but won't 
demonstrate how you can broaden your search to include multiple tracks.

Save your search and create a button for it, for future use. 

How to change info in the talks should be obvious.

To a Presentation, you can tie Performances, which contain info about time and 
place when the presentation is performed. Please refrain from scheduling any
talks before we have information about peoples interests registered.


From stroeken at amaze.nl  Tue May 17 09:27:48 2005
From: stroeken at amaze.nl (Ivo Stroeken)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:27:48 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] multiple invoices
Message-ID: <42899CF4.6090503@amaze.nl>

Dear Sirs,

For the Eurypython 2005 we are about to pay three invoices. To avoid
having to pay triple duties I was wondering whether it would be possible
to pay all three invoices in one go

The details:

Payment code: 000992, invoice 99
Payment code: 001008, invoice 100
Payment code: 001016m invoice 101
 COuld you also forward the exact name of your bank, as this is not
mentioned on the invoice but needed for our banking system

Looking forward to your answer.

Kind regards,

-- 
Ivo E.G.E. Stroeken		      -=- 
Korte Leidsedwarsstraat 12  	     Amaze 
Postbus 15968 
1001 NL AMSTERDAM		      -=- 
Tel:    +31-20-4688336	        Linux/Web/Zope/SQL 
Fax:	+31-20-4688337	         Network Solutions 
Web:    http://www.amaze.nl       Consultancy 
Email:  stroeken at amaze.nl	      -=- 



From mal at egenix.com  Tue May 17 13:28:10 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:28:10 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] late submissins to "business track" and "framework
 track"
In-Reply-To: <428735DA.6090708@gmx.de>
References: <428735DA.6090708@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <4289D54A.2010604@egenix.com>

Andr? Deparade wrote:
> Dear Europython-Organisers!
> 
> Due to a busy schedule I missed the deadline for proposing talks. 
> Nevertheless I filled in the "propose a talk"-form for the framework track 
> and business track. I can give one talk on a current project. Depending on 
> the main aspects it fits better to the business or framework track.
> 
> After finishing I have noticed that both proposed talks are listed in the 
> "approved talks" pages. I think this could be a bug.

The frameworks track is pretty much full - we are trying to
get most registered talks into the track, but we cannot take
additional talks.

Perhaps you could talk to John Pinner, whos the track chair of
the business track ?!

> Could you please provide me some feedback on this issue?
> 
> I have also registerd myself with "early-bird normal rate".

-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

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From mal at egenix.com  Tue May 17 13:44:17 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 13:44:17 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Accepted Talks (Q: Push back early bird?)
In-Reply-To: <200505152351.22602.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <D091BA66-6898-41AD-BE39-5ACDA696ACC0@zope-europe.org>
	<200505152351.22602.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <4289D911.5020003@egenix.com>

Jacob Hallen wrote:
> You get to register as a speaker if you have submitted a (serious) proposal. 
> You don't have to be accepted as a speaker.
> 
> Also, since I got no word to the contrary, we are currently claiming that we 
> are running all the talks that have been registered. Where to find the list 
> of talks has been widely published.

That's an interesting claim ;-)

BTW, could someone please update the following page:

http://www.europython.org/sections/tracks_and_talks/propose_a_talk/#frameworks

with a note that the talk proposal period is over and change
the line "Track chair wanted - contact europython at python.org"
to "Martijn Faasen, Marc-Andr? Lemburg and a team of volunteers".

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, May 17 2005)
 >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
 >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
 >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
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From facundobatista at gmail.com  Tue May 17 14:53:42 2005
From: facundobatista at gmail.com (Facundo Batista)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 09:53:42 -0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython - Money Module
In-Reply-To: <42884EC5.80006@actuarcalc.lu>
References: <42884EC5.80006@actuarcalc.lu>
Message-ID: <e04bdf3105051705532ea277ab@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/16/05, Mathias Foehr <mathias.foehr at actuarcalc.lu> wrote:

> When is the sprint for the money module planned? I am pretty much
> interested to participate. Is it possible to download the existing code?

After the conference. I'll give a talk about this to tell everybody
its status and to recruit people for the sprints.

We don't have code yet, but there's a pre-PEP, and we started with the
discussion.

*Everything* is here: http://sf.net/projects/pymoney

Regards,

.    Facundo

Blog: http://www.taniquetil.com.ar/plog/
PyAr: http://www.python.org/ar/

From lac at strakt.com  Tue May 17 16:20:42 2005
From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:20:42 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] multiple invoices
In-Reply-To: Message from Ivo Stroeken <stroeken@amaze.nl> 
	of "Tue, 17 May 2005 09:27:48 +0200." <42899CF4.6090503@amaze.nl> 
References: <42899CF4.6090503@amaze.nl> 
Message-ID: <200505171420.j4HEKg8R009116@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

In a message of Tue, 17 May 2005 09:27:48 +0200, Ivo Stroeken writes:
>Dear Sirs,
>
>For the Eurypython 2005 we are about to pay three invoices. To avoid
>having to pay triple duties I was wondering whether it would be possible
>to pay all three invoices in one go
>
>The details:
>
>Payment code: 000992, invoice 99
>Payment code: 001008, invoice 100
>Payment code: 001016m invoice 101
> COuld you also forward the exact name of your bank, as this is not
>mentioned on the invoice but needed for our banking system
>
>Looking forward to your answer.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>-- 
>Ivo E.G.E. Stroeken		      -=- 
>Korte Leidsedwarsstraat 12  	     Amaze 
>Postbus 15968 
>1001 NL AMSTERDAM		      -=- 
>Tel:    +31-20-4688336	        Linux/Web/Zope/SQL 
>Fax:	+31-20-4688337	         Network Solutions 
>Web:    http://www.amaze.nl       Consultancy 
>Email:  stroeken at amaze.nl	      -=- 
>

Sure thing.  Go to the website, and then click registration.
YOu should be here.


http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/registration

Then click on 'pay multiple invoices'.

Type in your payment codes, one per line.

cheers,
Laura

From aiste at pov.lt  Tue May 17 16:34:14 2005
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:34:14 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] multiple invoices
In-Reply-To: <200505171420.j4HEKg8R009116@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <42899CF4.6090503@amaze.nl>
	<200505171420.j4HEKg8R009116@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <428A00E6.9050200@pov.lt>

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Hi,

|>For the Eurypython 2005 we are about to pay three invoices. To avoid
|>having to pay triple duties I was wondering whether it would be possible
|>to pay all three invoices in one go

|>COuld you also forward the exact name of your bank, as this is not
|>mentioned on the invoice but needed for our banking system
|>
| Sure thing.  Go to the website, and then click registration.
| YOu should be here.
|
|
| http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/registration
|
| Then click on 'pay multiple invoices'.
|
| Type in your payment codes, one per line.

But this works only for card payment, not wire transfer.
For wire transfer I simply put all the payment codes into the details field.

Also the bank name is not provided, but I found it to be Swedbank. Laura
is that correct?

- --
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt
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From jacob at strakt.com  Tue May 17 16:51:51 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 16:51:51 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Accepted Talks (Q: Push back early bird?)
In-Reply-To: <4289D911.5020003@egenix.com>
References: <D091BA66-6898-41AD-BE39-5ACDA696ACC0@zope-europe.org>
	<200505152351.22602.jacob@strakt.com> <4289D911.5020003@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <200505171651.52058.jacob@strakt.com>

On tisdag 17 maj 2005 13:44, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Jacob Hallen wrote:
> > You get to register as a speaker if you have submitted a (serious)
> > proposal. You don't have to be accepted as a speaker.
> >
> > Also, since I got no word to the contrary, we are currently claiming that
> > we are running all the talks that have been registered. Where to find the
> > list of talks has been widely published.
>
> That's an interesting claim ;-)
>
> BTW, could someone please update the following page:
>
> http://www.europython.org/sections/tracks_and_talks/propose_a_talk/#framewo
>rks
>
> with a note that the talk proposal period is over and change
> the line "Track chair wanted - contact europython at python.org"
> to "Martijn Faasen, Marc-Andr? Lemburg and a team of volunteers".
>
> Thanks,

Done. All tak submissions (except lightning talks) now point at a page which 
has a conspicuous warning that talk submission is over.

Jacob
 

From lac at strakt.com  Tue May 17 17:49:21 2005
From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 17:49:21 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] multiple invoices
In-Reply-To: Message from Aiste Kesminaite <aiste@pov.lt> 
	of "Tue, 17 May 2005 17:34:14 +0300." <428A00E6.9050200@pov.lt> 
References: <42899CF4.6090503@amaze.nl>
	<200505171420.j4HEKg8R009116@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
	<428A00E6.9050200@pov.lt> 
Message-ID: <200505171549.j4HFnLPH010255@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>

In a message of Tue, 17 May 2005 17:34:14 +0300, Aiste Kesminaite writes:
>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>Hash: SHA1
>
>Hi,
>
>|>For the Eurypython 2005 we are about to pay three invoices. To avoid
>|>having to pay triple duties I was wondering whether it would be possibl
>e
>|>to pay all three invoices in one go
>
>|>COuld you also forward the exact name of your bank, as this is not
>|>mentioned on the invoice but needed for our banking system
>|>
>| Sure thing.  Go to the website, and then click registration.
>| YOu should be here.
>|
>|
>| http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/registration
>|
>| Then click on 'pay multiple invoices'.
>|
>| Type in your payment codes, one per line.
>
>But this works only for card payment, not wire transfer.
>For wire transfer I simply put all the payment codes into the details fie
>ld.
>
>Also the bank name is not provided, but I found it to be Swedbank. Laura
>is that correct?
>
>- --
>Aiste Kesminaite
>Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
>Phone: +370 6563 6462
>Email: aiste at pov.lt
>Web: www.pov.lt

Yes, the Bank has 2 names.  F?reningssparbanken a.k.a. Swedbank.

I'll see about getting that put someplace reasonable.

Laura

From mal at egenix.com  Tue May 17 18:51:19 2005
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 18:51:19 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Accepted Talks (Q: Push back early bird?)
In-Reply-To: <200505171651.52058.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <D091BA66-6898-41AD-BE39-5ACDA696ACC0@zope-europe.org>	<200505152351.22602.jacob@strakt.com>
	<4289D911.5020003@egenix.com> <200505171651.52058.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <428A2107.6090707@egenix.com>

Jacob Hall?n wrote:
> On tisdag 17 maj 2005 13:44, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> 
>>Jacob Hallen wrote:
>>
>>>You get to register as a speaker if you have submitted a (serious)
>>>proposal. You don't have to be accepted as a speaker.
>>>
>>>Also, since I got no word to the contrary, we are currently claiming that
>>>we are running all the talks that have been registered. Where to find the
>>>list of talks has been widely published.
>>
>>That's an interesting claim ;-)
>>
>>BTW, could someone please update the following page:
>>
>>http://www.europython.org/sections/tracks_and_talks/propose_a_talk/#framewo
>>rks
>>
>>with a note that the talk proposal period is over and change
>>the line "Track chair wanted - contact europython at python.org"
>>to "Martijn Faasen, Marc-Andr? Lemburg and a team of volunteers".
>>
>>Thanks,
> 
> 
> Done. All tak submissions (except lightning talks) now point at a page which 
> has a conspicuous warning that talk submission is over.

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
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From natea at jazkarta.com  Tue May 17 20:28:48 2005
From: natea at jazkarta.com (Nate Aune)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 14:28:48 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] Accomodations
Message-ID: <BEAFB020.16664%natea@jazkarta.com>

Hello,

I am writing to find out if there are any beds available in the SGS
Veckobostader. I just found out today that my talk has been accepted, and am
now trying to register. When I get to the 'Total to pay' registration page,
it is quoting 62 Euro/night which is more than I can afford.

I did not want to register until I knew for sure that my talk was accepted.
And now it appears that I've missed out on the cheaper accomodations, at
least via the online registration page.

Is there any chance that I can get a bed for the 15.50 euro rate, even if it
is just for some of the nights? Your help in this matter is much
appreciated.

Thanks,
Nate

--
Nate Aune - natea at jazkarta.com
Jazkarta ? building communities with open source
http://www.jazkarta.com
(866) 864-4918 - Toll-free voicemail/fax



From jacob at strakt.com  Tue May 17 23:21:13 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 23:21:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] multiple invoices
In-Reply-To: <200505171420.j4HEKg8R009116@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
References: <42899CF4.6090503@amaze.nl>
	<200505171420.j4HEKg8R009116@ratthing-b246.strakt.com>
Message-ID: <200505172321.14050.jacob@strakt.com>

tisdag 17 maj 2005 16.20 skrev Laura Creighton:
> In a message of Tue, 17 May 2005 09:27:48 +0200, Ivo Stroeken writes:
> >Dear Sirs,
> >
> >For the Eurypython 2005 we are about to pay three invoices. To avoid
> >having to pay triple duties I was wondering whether it would be possible
> >to pay all three invoices in one go
> >
> >The details:
> >
> >Payment code: 000992, invoice 99
> >Payment code: 001008, invoice 100
> >Payment code: 001016m invoice 101
> > COuld you also forward the exact name of your bank, as this is not
> >mentioned on the invoice but needed for our banking system
> >
> >Looking forward to your answer.
> >
> >Kind regards,
> >
> >--
> >Ivo E.G.E. Stroeken		      -=-
> >Korte Leidsedwarsstraat 12  	     Amaze
> >Postbus 15968
> >1001 NL AMSTERDAM		      -=-
> >Tel:    +31-20-4688336	        Linux/Web/Zope/SQL
> >Fax:	+31-20-4688337	         Network Solutions
> >Web:    http://www.amaze.nl       Consultancy
> >Email:  stroeken at amaze.nl	      -=-
>
> Sure thing.  Go to the website, and then click registration.
> YOu should be here.
>
>
> http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/registration
>
> Then click on 'pay multiple invoices'.
>
> Type in your payment codes, one per line.

The above advice is for paying by credit card. If paying by IBAN, you can 
simply put the payment codes in the message. The name of our bank is 
Swedbank. (It's really F?reningssparbanken, but they call themselves Swedbank 
internationally.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n



From jacob at strakt.com  Tue May 17 23:27:09 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 23:27:09 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Accomodations
In-Reply-To: <BEAFB020.16664%natea@jazkarta.com>
References: <BEAFB020.16664%natea@jazkarta.com>
Message-ID: <200505172327.09075.jacob@strakt.com>

tisdag 17 maj 2005 20.28 skrev Nate Aune:
> Hello,
>
> I am writing to find out if there are any beds available in the SGS
> Veckobostader. I just found out today that my talk has been accepted, and
> am now trying to register. When I get to the 'Total to pay' registration
> page, it is quoting 62 Euro/night which is more than I can afford.
>
> I did not want to register until I knew for sure that my talk was accepted.
> And now it appears that I've missed out on the cheaper accomodations, at
> least via the online registration page.
>
> Is there any chance that I can get a bed for the 15.50 euro rate, even if
> it is just for some of the nights? Your help in this matter is much
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Nate

The rate is 15.50/night, I think what you are seeing is the total for 4 
nights. The low price accomodation will be available until it runs out, or 
SGS say they want to sell it to other people.

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From koehler at cm-applications.de  Wed May 18 12:15:03 2005
From: koehler at cm-applications.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?=22Christian_K=F6hler_=28cm-applications=29=22?=)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:15:03 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Payment (Invoice), Payment code: 000679
Message-ID: <428B15A7.9030502@cm-applications.de>

Hi,

as I am not familiar with international bank transactions, I was 
wondering if my money received you, since my payment status still is 
pending.

Invoice Information:
Date: 2005-05-12  	
Currency: Euro  	
Payment code: 000679  	
Invoice number: 67
Total:  160.00
Payment status:  Pending

I transfered the money on the 12th. Due to a mistake in the bank, they 
forgot to charge the banking fees to my account. So they made a second 
transfer (5 ? I think) some minutes later to provide you with the full 
sum. Sorry for the hassle.

If the money received you all right: please ignore this mail. If not: 
please send me a short message so I can check back with the bank.

Regards
Chris


From o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk  Wed May 18 12:33:04 2005
From: o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk (Oliver Cope)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 11:33:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: Visa application]
Message-ID: <428B19E0.8030200@ich.ucl.ac.uk>

Hi,

Can someone please confirm whether or not you're able to do this? It'd
be really great if you could because without this it may not be possible
to get the visa my colleague needs to be able to attend!

Thanks,

Olly.

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Visa application
Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:08:51 +0100
From: Oliver Cope <o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk>
To: europython at python.org

Hi,

I recently registered for europython on behalf of one of my colleagues,
Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe. However to make the trip, he needs to obtain a
Schengen visa and this requires a letter from the conference organizers
providing proof of confirmed accommodation and details of the trip.

Would it be possible to send a letter to him for this purpose?

The letter should be addressed to:

Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe,
Institute of Child Health,
London,
WC1N 1EH,
UK.


Many thanks,

Olly.



From lists at andreas-jung.com  Wed May 18 12:48:22 2005
From: lists at andreas-jung.com (Andreas Jung)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 12:48:22 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: Visa application]
In-Reply-To: <428B19E0.8030200@ich.ucl.ac.uk>
References: <428B19E0.8030200@ich.ucl.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <D1F5AAFABBF59AA5CD65B31D@[192.168.0.20]>

A visa for Sweden? Aren't we in the EU?

-aj

--On Mittwoch, 18. Mai 2005 11:33 Uhr +0100 Oliver Cope 
<o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Can someone please confirm whether or not you're able to do this? It'd
> be really great if you could because without this it may not be possible
> to get the visa my colleague needs to be able to attend!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Olly.
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Visa application
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:08:51 +0100
> From: Oliver Cope <o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk>
> To: europython at python.org
>
> Hi,
>
> I recently registered for europython on behalf of one of my colleagues,
> Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe. However to make the trip, he needs to obtain a
> Schengen visa and this requires a letter from the conference organizers
> providing proof of confirmed accommodation and details of the trip.
>
> Would it be possible to send a letter to him for this purpose?
>
> The letter should be addressed to:
>
> Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe,
> Institute of Child Health,
> London,
> WC1N 1EH,
> UK.
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Olly.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython



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From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Wed May 18 15:40:02 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:40:02 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: Visa application]
In-Reply-To: <428B19E0.8030200@ich.ucl.ac.uk>
References: <428B19E0.8030200@ich.ucl.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <428B45B2.6090405@ita.chalmers.se>

Oliver Cope wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Can someone please confirm whether or not you're able to do this? It'd
> be really great if you could because without this it may not be possible
> to get the visa my colleague needs to be able to attend!
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Olly.

Sorry for the delay. Yes we can do this, however I am not sure wht the 
letter should state. Could you please provide the text of the invitation 
and I can then send you the invitiation?

Thanks,

/dario



> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Visa application
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2005 11:08:51 +0100
> From: Oliver Cope <o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk>
> To: europython at python.org
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I recently registered for europython on behalf of one of my colleagues,
> Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe. However to make the trip, he needs to obtain a
> Schengen visa and this requires a letter from the conference organizers
> providing proof of confirmed accommodation and details of the trip.
> 
> Would it be possible to send a letter to him for this purpose?
> 
> The letter should be addressed to:
> 
> Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe,
> Institute of Child Health,
> London,
> WC1N 1EH,
> UK.
> 



-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
"...and click? damn, I need to kill -9 Word again..." - b using macosx

From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Wed May 18 15:45:43 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 15:45:43 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: Visa application]
In-Reply-To: <D1F5AAFABBF59AA5CD65B31D@[192.168.0.20]>
References: <428B19E0.8030200@ich.ucl.ac.uk>
	<D1F5AAFABBF59AA5CD65B31D@[192.168.0.20]>
Message-ID: <428B4707.4080602@ita.chalmers.se>

Andreas Jung wrote:
> A visa for Sweden? Aren't we in the EU?
>

that only applies for citizens of the EU. For instance, I myself need to 
apply for visa to some countries of the EU (last time I checked), 
because I am not a citizen of any EU country.

I believe that the invitation is for a visiting researcher/colleague at 
Institute of Child Health.

/dario

-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
"...and click? damn, I need to kill -9 Word again..." - b using macosx

From jacob at strakt.com  Wed May 18 17:13:36 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:13:36 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Visa application
In-Reply-To: <42887133.5010605@ich.ucl.ac.uk>
References: <42887133.5010605@ich.ucl.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <200505181713.36397.jacob@strakt.com>

m?ndag 16 maj 2005 12.08 skrev Oliver Cope:
> Hi,
>
> I recently registered for europython on behalf of one of my colleagues,
> Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe. However to make the trip, he needs to obtain a
> Schengen visa and this requires a letter from the conference organizers
> providing proof of confirmed accommodation and details of the trip.
>
> Would it be possible to send a letter to him for this purpose?
>
> The letter should be addressed to:
>
> Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe,
> Institute of Child Health,
> London,
> WC1N 1EH,
> UK.

I am sending off a letter today.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From jacob at strakt.com  Wed May 18 17:26:34 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:26:34 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] "getting to goteborg" page errors
In-Reply-To: <d38911975aa5ff353a2240323565579f@vanrees.org>
References: <d38911975aa5ff353a2240323565579f@vanrees.org>
Message-ID: <200505181726.35092.jacob@strakt.com>

m?ndag 16 maj 2005 09.19 skrev Reinout van Rees:
> Hello all,
>
> There are two faulty links on the "getting to goteborg" page.
>
> * steanaline.se => stenaline.se (though probably better stenaline.com?)
>
> * the landvetter airport link doesn't work (at least at the moment).
> For me it is
>    http://www.lfv.se/templates/LFV_AirportStartPage____2570.aspx but I
> don't know how
>    permanent such an URI is...
>
> See you in Goteborg!
>
> Reinout

Fixed. Thank for telling us.

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk  Wed May 18 17:51:23 2005
From: o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk (Oliver Cope)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:51:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Visa application
In-Reply-To: <200505181713.36397.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <42887133.5010605@ich.ucl.ac.uk>
	<200505181713.36397.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <428B647B.7060304@ich.ucl.ac.uk>

On 05/18/05 16:13, Jacob Hallen wrote:
>  
> 
> I am sending off a letter today.
> 
> 
Thanks Jacob, that's great -- much appreciated.

Olly.

From o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk  Wed May 18 18:56:19 2005
From: o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk (Oliver Cope)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 17:56:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: Visa application]
In-Reply-To: <428B45B2.6090405@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <428B19E0.8030200@ich.ucl.ac.uk> <428B45B2.6090405@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <428B73B3.50204@ich.ucl.ac.uk>

On 05/18/05 14:40, Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote:
> Oliver Cope wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can someone please confirm whether or not you're able to do this? It'd
>> be really great if you could because without this it may not be possible
>> to get the visa my colleague needs to be able to attend!
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Olly.
> 
> 
> Sorry for the delay. Yes we can do this, however I am not sure wht the
> letter should state. Could you please provide the text of the invitation
> and I can then send you the invitiation?
> 
Thanks. I think something along these lines should do it:

To whom it may concern,

I am writing to confirm that Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe of the Institute
of Child Health, London, UK, has a place reserved on the Europython 2005
conference, 27-29 June 2005.

I can further confirm that we have reserved accommodation for him from
26 to 29 June 2005 (four nights). The accommodation fees have been paid
in full. The accommodation will be at the following address:

SGS Veckobost?der,
Utlandagatan 24,
412 80 G?teborg.


Cheers,

Olly.





From S.L.Davy at soton.ac.uk  Wed May 18 19:20:45 2005
From: S.L.Davy at soton.ac.uk (Davy S.L.)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 18:20:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython Registration Question
Message-ID: <27B4CA7233D92E42A575064D810544DC052DBB85@exchange3.soton.ac.uk>

Hi,

 

I'm trying to pay the registration costs for one of our students to
attend your conference in June 2005. However, the bank name seems to be
missing form the information on his invoice... could you confirm what it
is please? Otherwise our Finance department feel they cannot process the
transfer.

 

I look forward to hearing from you.

 

Thank you

 

Sonya Davy

 

 

 

Miss Sonya Davy

Finance Officer

School of Engineering Sciences

University of Southampton

Southampton  SO17 1BJ

Tel: +44 (0) 23 8059 3292

Fax: +44 (0) 23 8059 3230

 

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From jacob at strakt.com  Wed May 18 22:52:50 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 22:52:50 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython Registration Question
In-Reply-To: <27B4CA7233D92E42A575064D810544DC052DBB85@exchange3.soton.ac.uk>
References: <27B4CA7233D92E42A575064D810544DC052DBB85@exchange3.soton.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <200505182252.50711.jacob@strakt.com>

onsdag 18 maj 2005 19.20 skrev Davy S.L.:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I'm trying to pay the registration costs for one of our students to
> attend your conference in June 2005. However, the bank name seems to be
> missing form the information on his invoice... could you confirm what it
> is please? Otherwise our Finance department feel they cannot process the
> transfer.

The bank name is Swedbank.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From j.zimmermann at tiscali.co.uk  Thu May 19 18:06:09 2005
From: j.zimmermann at tiscali.co.uk (j.zimmermann@tiscali.co.uk)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:06:09 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] accommodation: additional night
Message-ID: <427BE71400045E8A@mk-cpfrontend-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com>

Dear Europython organisers,

I registered for Europython (j.zimmermann at tiscali.co.uk, invoice no. 108),
including three night accommodation with  Europython special accomodation
at SGS Veckobost?der. As I could not get a return flight for Wednesday, I
am kindly asking whether it is possible to extend the stay by another night
(Departure 2005-06-30, 4 nights (instead of 3), + breakfast Thursday). This
would help me a lot! 

Thank you and kind regards,
Jurgen Zimmermann

___________________________________________________________

Book yourself something to look forward to in 2005.
Cheap flights - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/flights/
Bargain holidays - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/travel/holidays/




From jacob at strakt.com  Thu May 19 20:49:09 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 20:49:09 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] accommodation: additional night
In-Reply-To: <427BE71400045E8A@mk-cpfrontend-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com>
References: <427BE71400045E8A@mk-cpfrontend-4.mail.uk.tiscali.com>
Message-ID: <200505192049.10251.jacob@strakt.com>

On torsdag 19 maj 2005 18:06, j.zimmermann at tiscali.co.uk wrote:
> Dear Europython organisers,
>
> I registered for Europython (j.zimmermann at tiscali.co.uk, invoice no. 108),
> including three night accommodation with  Europython special accomodation
> at SGS Veckobost?der. As I could not get a return flight for Wednesday, I
> am kindly asking whether it is possible to extend the stay by another night
> (Departure 2005-06-30, 4 nights (instead of 3), + breakfast Thursday). This
> would help me a lot!

Ok, I have added one more night to your invoice. You can use the "Check 
payment status and print invoices" option under "Registration" on the 
europython website to view and print the modified invoice.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From prabhu_r at users.sf.net  Fri May 20 15:11:21 2005
From: prabhu_r at users.sf.net (Prabhu Ramachandran)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 18:41:21 +0530
Subject: [EuroPython] Visa related assistance
Message-ID: <17037.57849.94448.677098@monster.linux.in>

Hello,

I'm giving two talks at EuroPython this year in the refereed papers
track.  I am from India with an Indian passport and need to apply to
the local consulate for a Visa in order to enter Sweden.

There is no Swedish embassy here in Chennai but there is a German one
where I plan to apply for a Schengen Visa.  To this end I require two
things for my application.

 1. Some kind of official "invitation" or formal letter that I can
    show as proof that I am talking at EuroPython.  I do have Armin's
    email of acceptance of my papers but am not sure if that will do.

 2. A complete contact address in Sweden that I can refer to in the
    Visa application.

Obviously, these are of some importance and reasonable urgency and I'd
appreciate any assistance.

Thanks!

Regards,
Prabhu

P.S. If for some reason you are unable to email me at my above
sourceforge address, please email me at prabhu.ramachandran at gmail.com.
Thanks.

From andre.deparade at gmx.de  Sun May 22 09:45:26 2005
From: andre.deparade at gmx.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andr=E9_Deparade?=)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 08:45:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: Re: late submissins to "business track" and
 "framework track"]
Message-ID: <42903896.10100@gmx.de>

hello,

the following mail could not be sent due to
"Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table (in 
reply to RCPT TO command)"

this is another try to reach you.


kind regards,
andr? deparade

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] late submissins to "business track" and 
"framework track"
Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:22:35 +0100
From: Andr? Deparade <andre.deparade at gmx.de>
To: Europython.john at clocksoft.com
References: <428735DA.6090708 at gmx.de> <4289D54A.2010604 at egenix.com>

Dear Mr. Pinner!

Just in case this mail has not been forwarded to you, I kindly ask for a
feedback on this issue:

M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Andr? Deparade wrote:
> 
>> Dear Europython-Organisers!
>>
>> Due to a busy schedule I missed the deadline for proposing talks. 
>> Nevertheless I filled in the "propose a talk"-form for the framework 
>> track and business track. I can give one talk on a current project. 
>> Depending on the main aspects it fits better to the business or 
>> framework track.
>>
>> After finishing I have noticed that both proposed talks are listed in 
>> the "approved talks" pages. I think this could be a bug.
> 
> 
> The frameworks track is pretty much full - we are trying to
> get most registered talks into the track, but we cannot take
> additional talks.
> 
> Perhaps you could talk to John Pinner, whos the track chair of
> the business track ?!
> 
>> Could you please provide me some feedback on this issue?


kind regards,
Andr? Deparade



From support at oeko.net  Sun May 22 14:07:09 2005
From: support at oeko.net (Toni Mueller)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 14:07:09 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] DNS error on accommodations page
Message-ID: <20050522120709.22372.qmail@oak.oeko.net>



Hello,

on this page:
http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/cheap_hotels

there's a problem with DNS resolution. This web site doesn't seem to
exist:

  http://www.avenynturist.com/

I get a DNS error even on retry. Maybe you have a spelling error, or
their DNS is busted.


Best,
--Toni++

From jacob at strakt.com  Sun May 22 16:09:56 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Sun, 22 May 2005 16:09:56 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] DNS error on accommodations page
In-Reply-To: <20050522120709.22372.qmail@oak.oeko.net>
References: <20050522120709.22372.qmail@oak.oeko.net>
Message-ID: <200505221609.56474.jacob@strakt.com>

s?ndag 22 maj 2005 14.07 skrev Toni Mueller:
> Hello,
>
> on this page:
> http://www.europython.org/sections/accomodation/cheap_hotels
>
> there's a problem with DNS resolution. This web site doesn't seem to
> exist:
>
>   http://www.avenynturist.com/
>
> I get a DNS error even on retry. Maybe you have a spelling error, or
> their DNS is busted.
>
>
> Best,
> --Toni++
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

Fixed. Thanks for the hint.

Jacob Hall?n

From o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk  Mon May 23 12:05:29 2005
From: o.cope at ich.ucl.ac.uk (Oliver Cope)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 11:05:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Visa application
In-Reply-To: <200505181713.36397.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <42887133.5010605@ich.ucl.ac.uk>
	<200505181713.36397.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <4291AAE9.8020500@ich.ucl.ac.uk>

On 05/18/05 16:13, Jacob Hallen wrote:
> m?ndag 16 maj 2005 12.08 skrev Oliver Cope:
>>
>>I recently registered for europython on behalf of one of my colleagues,
>>Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe. However to make the trip, he needs to obtain a
>>Schengen visa and this requires a letter from the conference organizers
>>providing proof of confirmed accommodation and details of the trip.
>>
>>Would it be possible to send a letter to him for this purpose?
>>
>>The letter should be addressed to:
>>
>>Gaya Kanishka Jayasinghe,
>>Institute of Child Health,
>>London,
>>WC1N 1EH,
>>UK.
> 
> I am sending off a letter today.
> 
We have just received the letter -- thank you for arranging this and
getting it to us so quickly, both Gaya and I are very grateful!

Regards,

Olly.

From hesa at sandklef.com  Mon May 23 12:41:00 2005
From: hesa at sandklef.com (Henrik Sandklef)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 12:41:00 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Late talk/speach proposal
Message-ID: <1116844860.7494.21.camel@mule>

Hi

...sorry for being late. If it is still possible I would like to give a
speach together with Mathias Klang (Project lead Creative Commons /
sweden) called:

	Free Software, free culture, free society
	-----------------------------------------------------

	The first part of the talk defines free software and focuses on 
	the importance of free software as a basis for a free society.

	What is free culture? How did culture evolv prior
	to the digital age and how is it evolving now. We take
	a look at restrictions which are imposed by law.

If there is chance, please let me know and I'll send over more
information.


best regards, hesa

-- 
Henrik Sandklef 
Free Software Foundation Europe   
    http://www.fsfeurope.org  




From bea at webwitches.com  Mon May 23 14:36:58 2005
From: bea at webwitches.com (Beatrice Fontaine)
Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 14:36:58 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Late talk/speach proposal
In-Reply-To: <1116844860.7494.21.camel@mule>
References: <1116844860.7494.21.camel@mule>
Message-ID: <1116851818.21381.92.camel@ogg.webwitches.com>

On Mon, 2005-05-23 at 12:41, Henrik Sandklef wrote:
> Hi
> 
> ...sorry for being late. If it is still possible I would like to give a
> speach together with Mathias Klang (Project lead Creative Commons /
> sweden) called:

[...]

> If there is chance, please let me know and I'll send over more
> information.

Henrik had a talk in the Social Skills track last year. It was highly
interesting and was followed by a really good discussion. If no one
objects immediately, I will accept him into my track.

Regards - and talk to you all tomorrow night on #europython!

bea

-- 
bea at webwitches.com
"I will, as we say in rock 'n' roll, run until the wheels come off, 
because I love what I do." -- David Crosby


From mwh at python.net  Tue May 24 12:11:46 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 11:11:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] climbing before/after EP?
Message-ID: <2m8y250w7x.fsf@starship.python.net>

Is there anyone on this list who is or knows anyone who would be
interested in a spot of rock climbing sometime around the time of
EuroPython?  I was thinking of a day at Utby (apparently easily
reachable by public transport), climbing, well, whatever.  There seems
to be stuff within my leading abilities there, at least.

I have gear, but I certainly don't want to hoick it all around unless
I have a fair or better chance of using it :)

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  surely, somewhere, somehow, in the history of computing, at least
  one manual has been written that you could at least remotely
  attempt to consider possibly glancing at.              -- Adam Rixey

From jacob at strakt.com  Tue May 24 15:54:07 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 15:54:07 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Meeting reminder
Message-ID: <200505241554.11725.jacob@strakt.com>

We have a meeting today, Tuesday 24 May at 18.00 CEST. As usual, it is on IRC, 
#europython on the freenode network.

It should be a brief meeting with just updates on what is going on.

Jacob

From custservice_96575706802 at southtrust.com  Tue May 24 17:49:20 2005
From: custservice_96575706802 at southtrust.com (SOUTHTRUST BANK)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:49:20 +0500
Subject: [EuroPython] SouthTrust Bank: urgent security notice for client of
	the bank [Tue, 24 May 2005 13:42:20 -0200]
Message-ID: <20050524145457.7AE031E401D@bag.python.org>

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From pedronis at strakt.com  Tue May 24 19:09:10 2005
From: pedronis at strakt.com (Samuele Pedroni)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 19:09:10 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] CAPSconference client,
 workaround for linux version to be able to run it after first time
Message-ID: <42935FB6.8050501@strakt.com>

Hi. There's a problem with the CAPSconference client on linux such that 
after the installation and running it once, the next time it will complain.

After installing and following the instructions and have successfully 
logged in once and exited:

- there should be a .caps directory created in the personal homedir;

- parallel to the capsclient script there's a GuiClient directory

copy or simlink the directories under GuiClient/caps, i.e.

   pedronis at theraft:~/Europython/CAPSconference/GuiClient/caps$ ls
   config  config.apps  local  test

to the ~/.caps directory

   pedronis at theraft:~/.caps$ ls
   config  config.apps  local  prefs  test


prefs should have already been there after the first run.


regards, Samuele Pedroni.

From Cristian.Codorean at ecmwf.int  Wed May 25 10:53:20 2005
From: Cristian.Codorean at ecmwf.int (Cristian Codorean)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 09:53:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Late-bird
Message-ID: <42943D00.10507@ecmwf.int>

Hello,
   what if I'm not an early bird but a pretty late-ish one ? Is it still 
possible to register ?

Cristian Codorean

-- 
---------------------------------------------
Cristian Codorean
Consultant, Meteorological Operations Section
ECMWF,Shinfield Park
Reading, UK, RG2 9AX,
Tel: +44 118 9499811
Fax: +44 118 9869450

From jacob at strakt.com  Wed May 25 11:07:46 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 11:07:46 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Late-bird
In-Reply-To: <42943D00.10507@ecmwf.int>
References: <42943D00.10507@ecmwf.int>
Message-ID: <200505251107.47353.jacob@strakt.com>

onsdag 25 maj 2005 10.53 skrev Cristian Codorean:
> Hello,
>    what if I'm not an early bird but a pretty late-ish one ? Is it still
> possible to register ?
>
> Cristian Codorean

Yes, you can register on-line until 17 June. For accomodation, you can 
register until we remove the option. This can happen at any time, since we 
are dependent on how long SGS can keep space open for us.

Best regards

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser

From johan.lindberg at pulp.se  Wed May 25 12:29:41 2005
From: johan.lindberg at pulp.se (Johan Lindberg)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:29:41 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Status of invoice 19 for Europython 2005
Message-ID: <380-22005532510294158@pulp.se>

Hello.

I just checked the status of my invoice for registration and it says:
pending. According to my internet bank it was paid several weeks ago.
Should I worry about this or can you confirm that you've gotten the
money in some other way? The invocie number is 19.

Thanks in advance
Johan Lindberg
johan at pulp.se


From norlund at gmail.com  Thu May 26 04:04:49 2005
From: norlund at gmail.com (Jussi Norlund)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 04:04:49 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython staff?
Message-ID: <f74681410505251904414a796d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!
I attended the conference last year and would like to do so again this
year. Do you still need staff? I am a decent photographer (
http://flickr.com/photos/setre/ ) and a very skilled chair lifter. :)

Cheers,
Jussi Norlund

From faassen at infrae.com  Thu May 26 13:33:08 2005
From: faassen at infrae.com (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:33:08 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] zope/plone on europython homepage
Message-ID: <4295B3F4.6060902@infrae.com>

Hi there,

I don't want to whine about this, but since I heard Paul talk about the 
non-Plone centeredness of the Zope track I wonder whether it's entirely 
appropriate for the homepage to say:

"Europython brings together developers, designers and business people in 
the Python and Zope/Plone communities." in the 'WHO' box.

The two communities are not identical, though there's of course a high 
incidence of overlap.

Regards,

Martijn



From jmo at ita.chalmers.se  Thu May 26 13:42:19 2005
From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:42:19 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] zope/plone on europython homepage
In-Reply-To: <4295B3F4.6060902@infrae.com>
References: <4295B3F4.6060902@infrae.com>
Message-ID: <4295B61B.20301@ita.chalmers.se>

Martijn Faassen wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>I don't want to whine about this, but since I heard Paul talk about the 
>non-Plone centeredness of the Zope track I wonder whether it's entirely 
>appropriate for the homepage to say:
>
>"Europython brings together developers, designers and business people in 
>the Python and Zope/Plone communities." in the 'WHO' box.
>
>The two communities are not identical, though there's of course a high 
>incidence of overlap.
>
>Regards,
>
>Martijn
>
>  
>

Hi!
It's fixed.

/JM








From Nathalie.Knoors at cern.ch  Thu May 26 13:58:44 2005
From: Nathalie.Knoors at cern.ch (Nathalie Knoors)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:58:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration and accomodation
Message-ID: <AB12BA824361304EA3E711C8ECB47D040FA434@cernxchg19.cern.ch>

Dear Sir/Madam,
 
Andreas Pfeiffer will join this conference end of June and being part of
the organizing committee of the europython conference in 2006, I would
appreciate if you could register him as a special invitee and advise me
on his accomodation (preference as close as possible, walking distance).
As the date of the conference is approaching and in  order to do the
necessary travel arrangements, could you please keep me informed as soon
as possible. Could I also have the names of the organizers of this
conference ?
Thank you.
Best regards,
Nathalie Knoors
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From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Thu May 26 15:07:13 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:07:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] zope/plone on europython homepage
In-Reply-To: <4295B3F4.6060902@infrae.com>
References: <4295B3F4.6060902@infrae.com>
Message-ID: <4295CA01.6070605@ita.chalmers.se>

Martijn Faassen wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> I don't want to whine about this, but since I heard Paul talk about the 
> non-Plone centeredness of the Zope track I wonder whether it's entirely 
> appropriate for the homepage to say:
> 
> "Europython brings together developers, designers and business people in 
> the Python and Zope/Plone communities." in the 'WHO' box.
> 
> The two communities are not identical, though there's of course a high 
> incidence of overlap.
> 

so how wouyld you rephrase it. I do not read it like you do, however, 
and I question the need to make a point of the fact that they are/may be 
different communities.

I myself belong perhaps to a third kind of community, the  one that 
never will really grok the zope vs rest-of-python controverse :-).

But feel free to suggest a different phrasing.

/dario

-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
"I also question your use of the word 'ironic' in this context, but
I'll leave discussion of english metallurgy to slashdot's esteemed
group of grammar nazis." -  mysticgoat

From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Thu May 26 15:09:28 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:09:28 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] zope/plone on europython homepage
In-Reply-To: <4295CA01.6070605@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <4295B3F4.6060902@infrae.com> <4295CA01.6070605@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <4295CA88.30501@ita.chalmers.se>

Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote:
> But feel free to suggest a different phrasing.
> 

ah, I see that Jean-marc allready fixed it. :-)

/dario


-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
"I also question your use of the word 'ironic' in this context, but
I'll leave discussion of english metallurgy to slashdot's esteemed
group of grammar nazis." -  mysticgoat

From david at shebang.nu  Thu May 26 23:45:55 2005
From: david at shebang.nu (David Pettersson)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 23:45:55 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Information on your homepage
Message-ID: <42964393.9000100@shebang.nu>

Hi,

I am writing you with regard to the information on your homepage. As you
might or might not be aware of, the Swedish Linux Society will be
arranging its first annual meeting in the same spot as EuroPython will
be held the following weekend.

We are currently in the process of updating our homepage with details on
accomodation and transportation, and I would like to know if it would be
possible for us to translate and slightly modify the texts that you
have, considering that they are just what we need. We would very much
appreciate it.

Sincerely,
-- 
David Pettersson

From jacob at strakt.com  Fri May 27 06:56:49 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 06:56:49 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Information on your homepage
In-Reply-To: <42964393.9000100@shebang.nu>
References: <42964393.9000100@shebang.nu>
Message-ID: <200505270656.49937.jacob@strakt.com>

torsdag 26 maj 2005 23.45 skrev David Pettersson:
> Hi,
>
> I am writing you with regard to the information on your homepage. As you
> might or might not be aware of, the Swedish Linux Society will be
> arranging its first annual meeting in the same spot as EuroPython will
> be held the following weekend.
>
> We are currently in the process of updating our homepage with details on
> accomodation and transportation, and I would like to know if it would be
> possible for us to translate and slightly modify the texts that you
> have, considering that they are just what we need. We would very much
> appreciate it.

You are very welcome to do so. Mentioning our conference on your site would be 
very much appreciated. If you give me your URL, I will put a link to you on 
our site.

Jacob Hall?n
Europython head organiser 

From david at se.linux.org  Fri May 27 08:17:21 2005
From: david at se.linux.org (David Pettersson)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 08:17:21 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Information on your homepage
In-Reply-To: <200505270656.49937.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <42964393.9000100@shebang.nu> <200505270656.49937.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <4296BB71.1090603@se.linux.org>

Hi,

Jacob Hallen wrote:

> You are very welcome to do so. Mentioning our conference on your site would be 
> very much appreciated. If you give me your URL, I will put a link to you on 
> our site.

Thanks!

Yes, we will be happy to link to the EuroPython site (actually I think
we have a few links already). However, we have not yet announced our
site officially yet (we expect to do so Monday), but starting Tuesday
morning you are welcome to link to our site at

  http://se.linux.org/aktuellt/traff_2005/

Thanks once again!

Sincerely,
-- 
David Pettersson
Svenska Linuxf?reningen

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From alexander.comploj at maguma.com  Fri May 27 17:51:48 2005
From: alexander.comploj at maguma.com (Alexander Comploj)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:51:48 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] News: maguma and Python
Message-ID: <42974214.2000405@maguma.com>

Dear EuroPython team,
my name is alexander comploj and i work by Maguma.
I have see the page about your conference in Goteburg.
Please write me if this information our new release of Maguma Workbench 
can be interestinf for you, because i think we can make something togheter.

have fun programming
Alexander Comploj
(Sorry my english)

here are the information ::

Maguma will be releasing version 2.5.0 of Workbench on the first of June

and with it will come many expanded abilities to produce scripts, not only 
enhanced features targeting PHP developers but this time Python developers 
will find things to be happy about. The new version will include the ability to 
execute and preview Python scripts, automatically detecting the script type based 
on file extension settings. Also new to this version will be the profiling support for 
PHP scripts, giving the developer an overview of the script timings broken down by 
file, function and line. The Function List module has been enhanced to provide better 
support for future Resource Kits that give the user the ability to preparse scripts and 
display custom library functions and objects. File based template support has been 
added to Workbench, customizable so that you can use a local repository for personal 
use or define a network resource to share the templates among a working group.

The full Changelog will be posted on the site with this release that will detail 
all of the many changes to Maguma Workbench.


-- 
have fun programming

Alexander Comploj



-----------------------------------------------
Alexander Comploj -  Marketing
Maguma GmbH/Srl

Via Siemens Strasse 19
39100 Bozen / Bolzano - Italy

Tel. +39 - 0471 / 56 80 30
Fax +39 - 0471 / 56 83 00

alexander.comploj at maguma.com
www.maguma.com
------------------------------------------------



From optilude at gmx.net  Sat May 28 23:03:13 2005
From: optilude at gmx.net (Martin Aspeli)
Date: Sat, 28 May 2005 23:03:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk details mistake on the website
Message-ID: <7FCB88CB-32AB-4438-87B7-B593DDBB81C7@gmx.net>

Hi,

I notice on http://www.python-in-business.org/ep2005/alisttrack.chtml? 
track=770 that my talk is listed as the last entry. I presume this  
means it has been accepted? Will I receive more details on this?

However, there is a "NOTE TO EDITORS" block that reads:

NOTE TO EDITORS: This talk could potentially also fit in both the  
Business
and Zope tracks. I feel the Social Aspects track is more appropriate  
given
the focus I intend to give, and the nature of my MSc degree, which the
talk will build upon, but I am flexible if you feel the talk would be  
better
pitched differently, either in another track, or with more focus on the
sociological aspects of the Plone community and the individuals therein.
The talk was the suggestion of Plone co-founder Alexander Limi; as this
will be my first EuroPython, I am a little unsure of the details, so  
please
contact me if there are any questions.

---

This looks a bit silly - could it please be removed?

Thanks!
Martin

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Sun May 29 20:57:21 2005
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 20:57:21 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Presseinformation "EuroPython 2005"
Message-ID: <7be3f35d05052911576ca967a2@mail.gmail.com>

I translated it.

I distributed it:

computerwoche - per Webformular
computerbild - per Webformular

heise: newstip at heise.de gesandt (c't, ix, teleopolis)

chip - per Email gesandt

zdnet (pc professionell) de.presse at cnet.com

Information-Week per Email an cmp-weka.de <http://cmp-weka.de>

and also to a MailingList of "Wirtschaftsjunioren Deutschland"
(www.wjd.de<http://www.wjd.de>
)


Just to inhibit double sendings.

Harald




-- 
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From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May 30 02:48:27 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob Hallen)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 02:48:27 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Presseinformation "EuroPython 2005"
In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d05052911576ca967a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7be3f35d05052911576ca967a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200505300248.28284.jacob@strakt.com>

s?ndag 29 maj 2005 20.57 skrev Harald Armin Massa:
> I translated it.
>
> I distributed it:
>
> computerwoche - per Webformular
> computerbild - per Webformular
>
> heise: newstip at heise.de gesandt (c't, ix, teleopolis)
>
> chip - per Email gesandt
>
> zdnet (pc professionell) de.presse at cnet.com
>
> Information-Week per Email an cmp-weka.de <http://cmp-weka.de>
>
> and also to a MailingList of "Wirtschaftsjunioren Deutschland"
> (www.wjd.de<http://www.wjd.de>
> )
>
>
> Just to inhibit double sendings.
>
> Harald

Great!

I have translated it into Swedish and sent it to
Ny Teknik
ComputerSweden
Datormagazin
Gnuheter

I will make a round and send it to our local daily newspaper and a few more 
places.

Jacob

From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Mon May 30 15:05:33 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:05:33 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC 2006 Organising team invitee
Message-ID: <429B0F9D.4080606@ita.chalmers.se>

Hello,

I have had an inquiry if it would be possible for one member of the EPC 
2006 Organising Committ?e to attend the conference as an invit?e, in 
order to gain experiences for EPC 2006.

What is the opinion of the EPC 2005 organisers?

Cheers,

/dario

-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
"I also question your use of the word 'ironic' in this context, but
I'll leave discussion of english metallurgy to slashdot's esteemed
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From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Mon May 30 15:13:42 2005
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:13:42 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC 2006 Organising team invitee
In-Reply-To: <429B0F9D.4080606@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <429B0F9D.4080606@ita.chalmers.se>
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Dario,

"invit?e" means exactly what:

a) gets invited, pays regular conference fee, gets special attention
b) gets invited, pays discounted conference fee (~ like speaker fee, to 
cover his meals), gets special attention
c) gets invited, pays no conference fee, gets special attention
d) gets invited, gets free accomodation and special attention
e) gets invited, gets free accomodation and travel expenses payed, gets 
special attention


I vote for b) or c); 

For b) because the conference is payed by the attendees, and the 
2005-attendees have no real point in paying for 2006 conference. 
I can also accept c), because I know that an organizer of 2006 will really 
commit a lot of work to 2005, even if we call this "special attention"

But at last, it is mainly a point of our budget, isn't it?


Harald
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From jacob at strakt.com  Mon May 30 15:23:52 2005
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:23:52 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC 2006 Organising team invitee
In-Reply-To: <429B0F9D.4080606@ita.chalmers.se>
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On m?ndag 30 maj 2005 15:05, Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have had an inquiry if it would be possible for one member of the EPC
> 2006 Organising Committ?e to attend the conference as an invit?e, in
> order to gain experiences for EPC 2006.
>
> What is the opinion of the EPC 2005 organisers?

My opinion is that we can afford an invitee who does not pay the conference 
fee. This costs us about 70 Euro in margin costs for food.

Jacob

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Tue May 31 00:44:04 2005
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 00:44:04 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] it blogs around
Message-ID: <7be3f35d050530154438d18178@mail.gmail.com>

http://planet.koehntopp.de/archives/37456-Schlangenbaendigen-fuer-Einsteiger-und-Fortgeschrittene.html

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From jai at jamkit.com  Tue May 31 11:03:29 2005
From: jai at jamkit.com (Jai Cummings)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:03:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Accomodation
Message-ID: <429C2861.40201@jamkit.com>

Hi,

I would like to book two rooms at the SGS Veckobostader for the Sprint 
but do not need to register for the Europython event as will not be 
attending. Is there any way I can book these rooms on the website 
without registering? If not, can these bookings be done over the telephone?

thanks
Jai
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:02:34 -0500
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2005 talk interests
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