From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr  Sun Oct  2 14:29:15 2005
From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:29:15 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <20051002122915.GB26678@logilab.fr>

On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 01:47:52PM +0100, Michael Hudson wrote:
> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which
> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track
> chair :)

Hi there,

Science Track I can take care of. 

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances  

From paul at zope-europe.org  Sun Oct  2 16:05:48 2005
From: paul at zope-europe.org (Paul Everitt)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:05:48 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <DF4EF63F-7C76-4129-A658-A294C8F99B4F@zope-europe.org>


Hi Michael.  I'm in for the Zope track.  However, I wonder if it  
would be better to do this as a general "Web Frameworks" track than  
just Zope.  There's lots of interesting stuff happening in Python  
these days for web frameworks.  Lots of people might benefit from  
cross-pollination.

--Paul

On Sep 30, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Michael Hudson wrote:

> So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's
> probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point --
> towards EuroPython 2006.
>
> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which
> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track
> chair :)
>
> I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with
> the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to
> help with that.  In particular, could someone who can put something
> like "See you at CERN in 2006!" on the front page of the site?
>
> But mainly the point of this mail is just to see who's out there and
> awake.  So: "BOO!" :)
>
> Cheers,
> mwh
>
> -- 
>
>> Touche! But this confirms you are composed of logic gates.
>>
>   Crud, I thought those were neurons in there.
>                     -- Thomas F. Burdick, Kenny Tilton, comp.lang.lisp
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>


From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr  Sun Oct  2 16:30:50 2005
From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:30:50 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <DF4EF63F-7C76-4129-A658-A294C8F99B4F@zope-europe.org>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<DF4EF63F-7C76-4129-A658-A294C8F99B4F@zope-europe.org>
Message-ID: <20051002143050.GA27493@logilab.fr>

On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 04:05:48PM +0200, Paul Everitt wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael.  I'm in for the Zope track.  However, I wonder if it  
> would be better to do this as a general "Web Frameworks" track than  
> just Zope.  There's lots of interesting stuff happening in Python  
> these days for web frameworks.  Lots of people might benefit from  
> cross-pollination.

+1. I'd be curious to see what all the 'ruby on rails' contenders have
to say compared to Zope/Cherry/Twisted elders.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances  

From mwh at python.net  Sun Oct  2 16:52:18 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 15:52:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <20051002122915.GB26678@logilab.fr> (Nicolas Chauvat's message
	of "Sun, 2 Oct 2005 14:29:15 +0200")
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<20051002122915.GB26678@logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <2mslvkgee5.fsf@starship.python.net>

Nicolas Chauvat <nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr> writes:

> On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 01:47:52PM +0100, Michael Hudson wrote:
>> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which
>> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track
>> chair :)
>
> Hi there,
>
> Science Track I can take care of. 

Cool, thanks for letting me know.

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  After a heavy night I travelled on, my face toward home - the comma
  being by no means guaranteed.           -- paraphrased from cam.misc

From mwh at python.net  Sun Oct  2 16:54:16 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 15:54:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0509300604l1ea3a09dw@mail.gmail.com> (Harald Armin
	Massa's message of "Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:04:46 +0200")
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<7be3f35d0509300604l1ea3a09dw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2moe68geav.fsf@starship.python.net>

Harald Armin Massa <haraldarminmassa at gmail.com> writes:

> mese is awake.
>
> Just one thing that went to my mind the last second:
> would someone else classify the action of "hiring martellibot and keeping
> him so occupied he cannot post on c.l.p." as evil?
>
> in other notice I think I volunteered for a track chair; with absolutely
> not sticking to the tutorial one (I am up for a change)

OK, makes sense.  What would you like to do, then?  Python in Business
or Python Success Stories or something along those lines?

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  <glyph> now you're probably wondering how to run cvs
  <samuel> actually i was thinking of naked women.
  <samuel> but sure.                            -- from Twisted.Quotes

From mwh at python.net  Sun Oct  2 16:58:54 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 15:58:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <200509301933.07920.zathras@thwackety.com> (Michael Sparks's
	message of "Fri, 30 Sep 2005 19:33:07 +0100")
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<200509301933.07920.zathras@thwackety.com>
Message-ID: <2mk6gwge35.fsf@starship.python.net>

Michael Sparks <zathras at thwackety.com> writes:

> On Friday 30 September 2005 13:47, Michael Hudson wrote:
>> So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's
>> probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point --
>> towards EuroPython 2006.
>
> In some respects the sooner things are started the easier they are.

Oh, absolutely.

>> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which
>> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track
>> chair :)
>
> I'd like to volunteer to help out with this sort of thing this year. 

Cool.  Python Frameworks, maybe?  Unless we have a concurrency track :)

>> I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with
>> the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to
>> help with that.  
>
> Depending on the tools used I'd be willing to help out with the
> website. (I've not actually used any of the well known python web
> frameworks though - I tend to prefer to roll my own - which is what
> we use on the kamaelia website.).

Well, currently the site uses CPS (http://www.cps-project.org/) and I
don't think there's any plans to redo everything completely.  Anyway,
it's not my problem :)

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
31. Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it.
  -- Alan Perlis, http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/perlis-alan/quotes.html

From mwh at python.net  Sun Oct  2 17:18:30 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 16:18:30 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <DF4EF63F-7C76-4129-A658-A294C8F99B4F@zope-europe.org> (Paul
	Everitt's message of "Sun, 2 Oct 2005 16:05:48 +0200")
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<DF4EF63F-7C76-4129-A658-A294C8F99B4F@zope-europe.org>
Message-ID: <2mfyrkgd6h.fsf@starship.python.net>

Paul Everitt <paul at zope-europe.org> writes:

> Hi Michael.  I'm in for the Zope track.  However, I wonder if it  
> would be better to do this as a general "Web Frameworks" track than  
> just Zope.  There's lots of interesting stuff happening in Python  
> these days for web frameworks.  Lots of people might benefit from  
> cross-pollination.

Yes, it would be nice to have more cross pollination, though I think
there's also an appetite for the fairly hardcore Zope/Plone/CPS talk
too.  But I guess that's true for all tracks.

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  If Unicode is a horde of zombies with flaming dung sticks, 
  the hideous intricacies of JIS, Chinese Big-5, Chinese 
  Traditional, KOI-8, et cetera are at least an army of ogres 
  with salt and flensing knives.        -- Eric S. Raymond, python-dev

From magnus at thinkware.se  Sun Oct  2 01:04:07 2005
From: magnus at thinkware.se (Magnus Lycka)
Date: Sun,  2 Oct 2005 01:04:07 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] =?iso-8859-1?q?Posters_next_year=3F?=
Message-ID: <think001_433f0a0608441@webmail.thinkware.se>

When I've sneaked in on conferences full of scientists
(I'm married to one) they've usually had an area where
you can put up posters, and at certain times, people
stand by their poster and answer questions etc.

The poster is usually fairly big, A0 size I guess, i.e.
1 m2, and should be readable from at leat 2 m distance. 
I realize that some people don't have access to a plotter
or printer that handles A0 paper, but tape and glue will
help in that case. :) Just like talks, posters would be
available in the program with an abstract.

This is another means of communcation than holding a
presentation. It's maybe not less work to prepare
a good poster than to prepare a good talk, but I'm
sure it's less intimidating for some people, and the
posters have the big advantage that they can be
observed at any time during the whole conference,
not just in one particular half hour when you'd like
to watch another presentation as well.

It also means that you can present texts that are
slightly longer than the ones that fit in presentation
slides.

Would this be a useful thing to consider? I think it
fits with the CERN setting...


/Magnus Lyck?

-- 
Magnus Lyck?, Thinkware AB
http://www.thinkware.se/  mailto:magnus at thinkware.se

From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch  Sun Oct  2 17:46:32 2005
From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 17:46:32 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Posters next year?
In-Reply-To: <think001_433f0a0608441@webmail.thinkware.se>
References: <think001_433f0a0608441@webmail.thinkware.se>
Message-ID: <491D9CC3-4644-4D0A-8CC1-ED0707BD481D@cern.ch>

Hi,
we at CERN had a discussion about proposing a poster session next  
year and personally I like the idea. The only problem - most of the  
people have no experience in making a poster and It is quite  
different from holding a presentation. Nevertheless +1 :-)

by the way:
there was the idea of making a conference poster (like for other  
science conferences). It could be printed by our printing service and  
then distributed...

Cheers,
Benedikt


On 02.10.2005, at 01:04, Magnus Lycka wrote:


> When I've sneaked in on conferences full of scientists
> (I'm married to one) they've usually had an area where
> you can put up posters, and at certain times, people
> stand by their poster and answer questions etc.
>
> The poster is usually fairly big, A0 size I guess, i.e.
> 1 m2, and should be readable from at leat 2 m distance.
> I realize that some people don't have access to a plotter
> or printer that handles A0 paper, but tape and glue will
> help in that case. :) Just like talks, posters would be
> available in the program with an abstract.
>
> This is another means of communcation than holding a
> presentation. It's maybe not less work to prepare
> a good poster than to prepare a good talk, but I'm
> sure it's less intimidating for some people, and the
> posters have the big advantage that they can be
> observed at any time during the whole conference,
> not just in one particular half hour when you'd like
> to watch another presentation as well.
>
> It also means that you can present texts that are
> slightly longer than the ones that fit in presentation
> slides.
>
> Would this be a useful thing to consider? I think it
> fits with the CERN setting...
>
>
> /Magnus Lyck?
>
> -- 
> Magnus Lyck?, Thinkware AB
> http://www.thinkware.se/  mailto:magnus at thinkware.se
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>



From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Sun Oct  2 20:30:29 2005
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 20:30:29 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <2moe68geav.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<7be3f35d0509300604l1ea3a09dw@mail.gmail.com>
	<2moe68geav.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0510021130w45c3ba06t@mail.gmail.com>

Hmmm..

> OK, makes sense. What would you like to do, then? Python in Business
> or Python Success Stories or something along those lines?
>
> Yeah, Python Success Stories or sth along those lines. Python in Business
is John Pinners baby, and he has done a GREAT job raising and growing it, it
should florish with its father.


Harald

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From hpk at trillke.net  Sun Oct  2 20:30:37 2005
From: hpk at trillke.net (holger krekel)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 20:30:37 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <20051002183037.GP4208@solar.trillke.net>

Hi, 

On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 13:47 +0100, Michael Hudson wrote:
> So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's
> probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point --
> towards EuroPython 2006.
> 
> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which
> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track
> chair :)

Me and Bea During are probably going for the "agile
development" track.  Btw, I wouldn't mind a track-chair mailing
list where we would start to discuss track scopes and such. 

    holger

From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr  Sun Oct  2 21:49:12 2005
From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2005 21:49:12 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <20051002183037.GP4208@solar.trillke.net>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<20051002183037.GP4208@solar.trillke.net>
Message-ID: <20051002194912.GA31547@logilab.fr>

Hi,

On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 08:30:37PM +0200, holger krekel wrote:
> Me and Bea During are probably going for the "agile
> development" track.  Btw, I wouldn't mind a track-chair mailing
> list where we would start to discuss track scopes and such. 

During previous years it's been done on this list and it worked out
fine. IMHO conference "users" subscribed to this same list will
provide the most important input regarding track scope since they are
the ones that will be attending.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances  

From mwh at python.net  Sun Oct  2 22:12:17 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:12:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <20051002194912.GA31547@logilab.fr> (Nicolas Chauvat's message
	of "Sun, 2 Oct 2005 21:49:12 +0200")
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<20051002183037.GP4208@solar.trillke.net>
	<20051002194912.GA31547@logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <2my85bfzku.fsf@starship.python.net>

Nicolas Chauvat <nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr> writes:

> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Oct 02, 2005 at 08:30:37PM +0200, holger krekel wrote:
>> Me and Bea During are probably going for the "agile
>> development" track.  Btw, I wouldn't mind a track-chair mailing
>> list where we would start to discuss track scopes and such. 
>
> During previous years it's been done on this list and it worked out
> fine. IMHO conference "users" subscribed to this same list will
> provide the most important input regarding track scope since they are
> the ones that will be attending.

Absolutely.  If this list gets too busy we can make a separate list,
but for now let's keep things out in the open.

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  MAN:  How can I tell that the past isn't a fiction designed to
        account for the discrepancy between my immediate physical
        sensations and my state of mind?
                   -- The Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, Episode 12

From mwh at python.net  Sun Oct  2 22:23:45 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2005 21:23:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0510021130w45c3ba06t@mail.gmail.com> (Harald Armin
	Massa's message of "Sun, 2 Oct 2005 20:30:29 +0200")
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<7be3f35d0509300604l1ea3a09dw@mail.gmail.com>
	<2moe68geav.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<7be3f35d0510021130w45c3ba06t@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2mu0fzfz1q.fsf@starship.python.net>

Harald Armin Massa <haraldarminmassa at gmail.com> writes:

> Hmmm..
>
>   OK, makes sense.  What would you like to do, then?  Python in Business
>   or Python Success Stories or something along those lines?
>
> Yeah, Python Success Stories or sth along those lines. Python in Business
> is John Pinners baby, and he has done a GREAT job raising and growing it,
> it should florish with its father.

Well, this brings up a related issue: what tracks to we want to have?
I'm a tiny bit worried about ending up with tracks like "Zope for
people who've used PHP a bit and once watched a Monty Python episode".

To an extent it makes sense to find out who's willing and able to
chair tracks and then find out what tracks they want to chair, though
that risks getting a rather unbalanced program.

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  THEOS: Mad cow. Utterly fucking insane cow, in fact. A cow so
  mad it thinks it's a tetapot. The swamp dragon of the OS world.
                           -- Jim's pedigree of operating systems, asr

From aiste at pov.lt  Mon Oct  3 09:39:12 2005
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 10:39:12 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <4340E020.8010400@pov.lt>

Hello,

> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which
> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track
> chair :)

I also remember thinking about being a track chair. Of something not too
technical :) So you can count me in.

> But mainly the point of this mail is just to see who's out there and
> awake.  So: "BOO!" :)

And what am I supposed to do with all that tea on my keyboard?..

-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt

From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Mon Oct  3 09:38:23 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 09:38:23 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Planning and Minutes from post-Conference meeting (Re:
 knock, knock!)
In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <4340DFEF.2070609@ita.chalmers.se>

Michael Hudson wrote:

>So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's
>probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point --
>towards EuroPython 2006.
>  
>

Hello all, nice to the flurry of activity that occurs on the list.

I attach the minutes from the Post-Conference meeting a bunch of us had 
on the evening of the last confernce day.

I can also inform you that Benedikt Heger and myself have  made some 
preliminary preparation trying to sort out some of the practical stuff 
in advance.

I'll finish with pointing out the following points the minutes

-----<>-----
=============================
What we need to do NOW
=============================

    * have the page say wtha we are doing CERN
        - closing the conference on the website.
   
    * mailing people that we are having a new confernece

    * sending thankyoumails to attendatns

    * start marekting the conference

    * contact the PSF.

    * start tracking the local media

    * se if we can broacast the speeches and prepare for this


============
Open Issues
============

    * who is doing the websites

    * who is doing the marketing, announcements etc.
   
    * Should we reuse the registrationsystem? What say the organisers?
-----<>-----


Comments and additions and corrections are appreciated.

Thanks,

/dario
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From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Mon Oct  3 09:56:22 2005
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 08:56:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <DF4EF63F-7C76-4129-A658-A294C8F99B4F@zope-europe.org>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<DF4EF63F-7C76-4129-A658-A294C8F99B4F@zope-europe.org>
Message-ID: <4340E426.9040504@simplistix.co.uk>

Yeah, but Zope/Plone probably has enough stuff of it's own to merit its 
own track, especially when you roll in things like Zope 3 and ECMS...

cheers,

Chris

Paul Everitt wrote:
> Hi Michael.  I'm in for the Zope track.  However, I wonder if it  
> would be better to do this as a general "Web Frameworks" track than  
> just Zope.  There's lots of interesting stuff happening in Python  
> these days for web frameworks.  Lots of people might benefit from  
> cross-pollination.
> 
> --Paul
> 
> On Sep 30, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Michael Hudson wrote:
> 
> 
>>So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's
>>probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point --
>>towards EuroPython 2006.
>>
>>I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which
>>means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track
>>chair :)
>>
>>I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with
>>the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to
>>help with that.  In particular, could someone who can put something
>>like "See you at CERN in 2006!" on the front page of the site?
>>
>>But mainly the point of this mail is just to see who's out there and
>>awake.  So: "BOO!" :)
>>
>>Cheers,
>>mwh
>>
>>-- 
>>
>>
>>>Touche! But this confirms you are composed of logic gates.
>>>
>>
>>  Crud, I thought those were neurons in there.
>>                    -- Thomas F. Burdick, Kenny Tilton, comp.lang.lisp
>>_______________________________________________
>>EuroPython mailing list
>>EuroPython at python.org
>>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 

-- 
Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting
            - http://www.simplistix.co.uk


From mwh at python.net  Mon Oct  3 12:01:36 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 11:01:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net> (Michael Hudson's message
	of "Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:47:52 +0100")
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <2m7jcugbr3.fsf@starship.python.net>

Michael Hudson <mwh at python.net> writes:

> So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's
> probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point --
> towards EuroPython 2006.

So people are still awake and interested... this is good :)

> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which
> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track
> chair :)

There seem to be enough of these.

> I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with
> the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to
> help with that.  In particular, could someone who can put something
> like "See you at CERN in 2006!" on the front page of the site?

There has been less activity here... as I see it, there are five roles
that could do with being "owned" by someone:

- the programme (that's me, folks)
- the website
- sprints
- marketing
- local stuff

Local stuff is Benedikt and his friends (no choice there, I'm afraid).
I don't really have a clue who is going to own any of the other roles.

I'm willing (like many others, I hope/expect) to help on the website,
but there's no way I'm taking on that hat too.

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  You're going to have to remember that I still think of Twisted as
  a big multiplayer game, and all this HTTP stuff is just kind of a
  grotty way to display room descriptions.          -- Glyph Lefkowitz

From hpk at trillke.net  Mon Oct  3 12:17:56 2005
From: hpk at trillke.net (holger krekel)
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 12:17:56 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <2m7jcugbr3.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<2m7jcugbr3.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <20051003101756.GX4208@solar.trillke.net>

On Mon, Oct 03, 2005 at 11:01 +0100, Michael Hudson wrote:
> Michael Hudson <mwh at python.net> writes:
> > I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with
> > the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to
> > help with that.  In particular, could someone who can put something
> > like "See you at CERN in 2006!" on the front page of the site?
> 
> There has been less activity here... as I see it, there are five roles
> that could do with being "owned" by someone:
> 
> - the programme (that's me, folks)
> - the website
> - sprints
> - marketing

Regarding PR/marketing Paul Everitt and me are trying to meet
up in Paris next week and start talking about it.  Benedikt
asked me already in Goteborg if i wanted to do this and i then
asked Paul to team up with me.  

cheers, 

    holger

From tom.deprez at village.uunet.be  Mon Oct  3 20:58:52 2005
From: tom.deprez at village.uunet.be (tom)
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2005 20:58:52 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <43417F6C.6090202@village.uunet.be>

Hello,

As last year, I'm not sure if can help a lot, I'll see what I can do (or 
if people have suggestions...).
Unfortunately, from experience of last year, I'm unable to get on the 
IRC talks, so I hope people post now and then something on the mailing 
list, so I can pick it up at night.

Regards,
Tom

Michael Hudson wrote:

>So, it's been a few months since EuroPython 2005, and I think it's
>probably time to start moving -- very slowly, maybe, at this point --
>towards EuroPython 2006.
>
>I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which
>means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track
>chair :)
>
>I have a less vague recollection of not wanting anything to do with
>the website, but would certainly be interested in know who is able to
>help with that.  In particular, could someone who can put something
>like "See you at CERN in 2006!" on the front page of the site?
>
>But mainly the point of this mail is just to see who's out there and
>awake.  So: "BOO!" :)
>
>Cheers,
>mwh
>
>  
>


From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Tue Oct  4 11:13:38 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 11:13:38 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <43417F6C.6090202@village.uunet.be>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<43417F6C.6090202@village.uunet.be>
Message-ID: <434247C2.1050106@ita.chalmers.se>

tom wrote:

>Hello,
>
>As last year, I'm not sure if can help a lot, I'll see what I can do (or 
>if people have suggestions...).
>Unfortunately, from experience of last year, I'm unable to get on the 
>IRC talks, so I hope people post now and then something on the mailing 
>list, so I can pick it up at night.
>

I will try to do this as much as possible.

/dario

From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Wed Oct  5 09:33:34 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 09:33:34 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC Presenter appears in Local Swedish IT-media
Message-ID: <434381CE.7050507@ita.chalmers.se>

Hello all,

Geoff Bache and emily Bache held a presentation in EuroPython 2005:

http://www.python-in-business.org/ep2005/talk.chtml?talk=2017&track=690

Geoff was interviewed in this Monday's issue of Computer Sweden, a local 
Swedish IT-magazie, that comes out 3 times a week.

You can find the article here:

http://computersweden.idg.se/ArticlePages/200509/29/20050929143707_CS766/20050929143707_CS766.dbp.asp


The article is about Texttest but fails miserably to mention that it is 
written in Python :-)

Something for the marketing people to pursue/use?

Cheers,

/dario


From skromta at gmail.com  Wed Oct  5 11:49:20 2005
From: skromta at gmail.com (Kalle Anke)
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 11:49:20 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC Presenter appears in Local Swedish IT-media
References: <434381CE.7050507@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <0001HW.BF696E400099053AF0407550@news.gmane.org>

On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:33:34 +0200, Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote
(in article <434381CE.7050507 at ita.chalmers.se>):

> The article is about Texttest but fails miserably to mention that it is 
> written in Python :-)

Considering that it was Computer Sweden I'm not surprised (have they ever 
gotten anything right)




From zathras at thwackety.com  Thu Oct  6 02:00:11 2005
From: zathras at thwackety.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:00:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Posters next year?
In-Reply-To: <491D9CC3-4644-4D0A-8CC1-ED0707BD481D@cern.ch>
References: <think001_433f0a0608441@webmail.thinkware.se>
	<491D9CC3-4644-4D0A-8CC1-ED0707BD481D@cern.ch>
Message-ID: <200510060100.12018.zathras@thwackety.com>

On Sunday 02 October 2005 16:46, Benedikt Hegner wrote:
...
> we at CERN had a discussion about proposing a poster session next
> year and personally I like the idea. The only problem - most of the
> people have no experience in making a poster and It is quite
> different from holding a presentation. Nevertheless +1 :-)

+1

BTW, if this suggestion goes ahead, if we could get people to produce their 
posters in advance, its *possible* that I might be able to get the printed up 
at work. I'd have to discuss that with people, but we do have inhouse 
printing (and poster making) facilities.

IMO, the lack of experience of making posters is likely to be more than made
up for by the exhuberance people have shown at Euro Python. They might
not be all "standard" form then, but I suspect they'd be a really cool
eclectic mix :-)

I'd also suggest that the posters need not have an associated talk. (Some 
people REALLY don't like standing up in front of people, but have some very 
interesting things to say!/they're doing!)


Michael.

From zathras at thwackety.com  Thu Oct  6 02:00:21 2005
From: zathras at thwackety.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:00:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <2mk6gwge35.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<200509301933.07920.zathras@thwackety.com>
	<2mk6gwge35.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com>

On Sunday 02 October 2005 15:58, Michael Hudson wrote:
> Michael Sparks <zathras at thwackety.com> writes:
> > On Friday 30 September 2005 13:47, Michael Hudson wrote:
> >> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which
> >> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track
> >> chair :)
> >
> > I'd like to volunteer to help out with this sort of thing this year.
>
> Cool.  Python Frameworks, maybe?  

Sounds good to me :-)

Have we considered a games track BTW? It strikes me that one of the more
public uses of python at the moment, and a big draw is writing games. It's
also potentially the sort of area which you could potentially draw in a
sponsor for. (Track sponsors?)

A games track could cover things like pygame, pygame toolsets, how to embed 
python inside a games engine, exposing C/C++ objects as python objects & vice 
versa and similar areas. I know some of these areas aren't really specific to 
games, but they are specifically interesting to games people.

> Unless we have a concurrency track :) 

Lots of people do seem to be looking at that area at the moment, but I don't 
really see the point of specialising it. ( *sobs* ;-) )

> [ Volunteering to help with website ]
>
> Well, currently the site uses CPS (http://www.cps-project.org/) and I
> don't think there's any plans to redo everything completely.  

Fair enough -- I'll take a look at it :-)

One thing I might do is go through the website (probably at the weekend or 
next week though) and list the functions of all the pages in the site from 
last year.

> Anyway, it's not my problem :)

:-)

Regards,


Michael.

From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Thu Oct  6 07:02:54 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 07:02:54 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC Presenter appears in Local Swedish IT-media
In-Reply-To: <0001HW.BF696E400099053AF0407550@news.gmane.org>
References: <434381CE.7050507@ita.chalmers.se>
	<0001HW.BF696E400099053AF0407550@news.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <4344AFFE.3080303@ita.chalmers.se>

Kalle Anke wrote:

>On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:33:34 +0200, Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote
>(in article <434381CE.7050507 at ita.chalmers.se>):
>
>  
>
>>The article is about Texttest but fails miserably to mention that it is 
>>written in Python :-)
>>    
>>
>
>Considering that it was Computer Sweden I'm not surprised (have they ever 
>gotten anything right)
>  
>

I *think* I once read an article that was quite accurate....

:-)

But seriously... even if there are varying opinions about the quality of 
ComputerSweden it is one of the major, if not THE major, IT-publicaton 
in Sweden, and the fact that they even mention something that is based 
on Python (even if they fail to mention that it is Python), is a major 
step forward.

One step at at a time... :-)

/dario

From mwh at python.net  Thu Oct  6 11:21:52 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 10:21:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com> (Michael Sparks's
	message of "Thu, 6 Oct 2005 01:00:21 +0100")
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<200509301933.07920.zathras@thwackety.com>
	<2mk6gwge35.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com>
Message-ID: <2mll17dmq7.fsf@starship.python.net>

Michael Sparks <zathras at thwackety.com> writes:

> On Sunday 02 October 2005 15:58, Michael Hudson wrote:
>> Michael Sparks <zathras at thwackety.com> writes:
>> > On Friday 30 September 2005 13:47, Michael Hudson wrote:
>> >> I have a vague recollection of volunteering to be program chair, which
>> >> means I'm interested in knowing who I can dupe into being a track
>> >> chair :)
>> >
>> > I'd like to volunteer to help out with this sort of thing this year.
>>
>> Cool.  Python Frameworks, maybe?  
>
> Sounds good to me :-)
>
> Have we considered a games track BTW?

No.  Or at least, I hadn't before now.

> It strikes me that one of the more public uses of python at the
> moment, and a big draw is writing games. It's also potentially the
> sort of area which you could potentially draw in a sponsor
> for. (Track sponsors?)
>
> A games track could cover things like pygame, pygame toolsets, how to embed 
> python inside a games engine, exposing C/C++ objects as python objects & vice 
> versa and similar areas. I know some of these areas aren't really specific to 
> games, but they are specifically interesting to games people.

Well, do you think you could get talks for this track?  As I said, I'd
like to avoid having too many tracks because I personally think it's a
bit confusing, and I'd prefer to have reasonably broad tracks so as
not to scare people off because they think they're talk won't "fit".

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  (FREE|OPEN) BSD: Shire horse. Solid, reliable, only occasionally
  prone to crushing you against a wall and then only because
  you've told it to without knowing.
                           -- Jim's pedigree of operating systems, asr

From skromta at gmail.com  Thu Oct  6 12:03:52 2005
From: skromta at gmail.com (Kalle Anke)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 12:03:52 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC Presenter appears in Local Swedish IT-media
References: <434381CE.7050507@ita.chalmers.se>
	<0001HW.BF696E400099053AF0407550@news.gmane.org>
	<4344AFFE.3080303@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <0001HW.BF6AC32800DBF7E6F0407550@news.gmane.org>

On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 07:02:54 +0200, Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote
(in article <4344AFFE.3080303 at ita.chalmers.se>):

>> I *think* I once read an article that was quite accurate....
> 
> :-)

8-) I usually read it as light entertainment during lunch

> One step at at a time... :-)

8-)



From zathras at thwackety.com  Thu Oct  6 22:09:31 2005
From: zathras at thwackety.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 21:09:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <2mll17dmq7.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com>
	<2mll17dmq7.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com>

On Thursday 06 October 2005 10:21, Michael Hudson wrote:
> Michael Sparks <zathras at thwackety.com> writes:
> > Have we considered a games track BTW?
>
> No.  Or at least, I hadn't before now.

> Well, do you think you could get talks for this track?  As I said, I'd
> like to avoid having too many tracks [confusing, etc]

I agree with that rationale. How about explicitly including in the scope
of the frameworks track (or another, but games frameworks are more
generally interesting often I think than people give credence to) to
include games integration & games frameworks?

The reason I say that is because, for example, Crystalspace provides a python 
integration, and thus can act as a framework for python programs sitting in a 
3D environment (though you could argue it sits elsewhere), and systems like 
Simon Wittber's lightweight games toolkit

As for getting talks? I suspect/hope it should be quite easy :-) What would be  
nice in many respects is to get people together working on different systems 
and find ways of integrating between them. 

Regards,


Michael 

From mwh at python.net  Thu Oct  6 23:30:51 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Thu, 06 Oct 2005 22:30:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com> (Michael Sparks's
	message of "Thu, 6 Oct 2005 21:09:31 +0100")
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com>
	<2mll17dmq7.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com>
Message-ID: <2m1x2ye3jo.fsf@starship.python.net>

Michael Sparks <zathras at thwackety.com> writes:

> On Thursday 06 October 2005 10:21, Michael Hudson wrote:
>> Michael Sparks <zathras at thwackety.com> writes:
>> > Have we considered a games track BTW?
>>
>> No.  Or at least, I hadn't before now.
>
>> Well, do you think you could get talks for this track?  As I said, I'd
>> like to avoid having too many tracks [confusing, etc]
>
> I agree with that rationale. How about explicitly including in the scope
> of the frameworks track (or another, but games frameworks are more
> generally interesting often I think than people give credence to) to
> include games integration & games frameworks?

Well, my quibble here is that a "Games track" would, I hope, include
talks from projects that have successfully used python... and that
doesn't seem to fit into a frameworks track.

> The reason I say that is because, for example, Crystalspace provides a python 
> integration, and thus can act as a framework for python programs sitting in a 
> 3D environment (though you could argue it sits elsewhere), and systems like 
> Simon Wittber's lightweight games toolkit

OTOH, this seems to be something you're interested in and knowledgable
about and I certainly don't want to hold your back :)

> As for getting talks? I suspect/hope it should be quite easy :-)

I'll take your word on that :)

> What would be nice in many respects is to get people together
> working on different systems and find ways of integrating between
> them.

How about putting out some feelers now?  If you get three or four
leads now-ish, then we can be reasonably confident of filling a half
day or so on the subject come the conference, I'd hope.

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  Structure is _nothing_ if it is all you got.  Skeletons _spook_
  people if they try to walk around on their own.  I really wonder 
  why XML does not.                     -- Erik Naggum, comp.lang.lisp

From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Fri Oct  7 08:51:59 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 08:51:59 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>	<200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com>	<2mll17dmq7.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com>
Message-ID: <43461B0F.4060202@ita.chalmers.se>

Michael Sparks wrote:

> The reason I say that is because, for example, Crystalspace provides a 
> python
>
>integration, and thus can act as a framework for python programs sitting in a 
>3D environment (though you could argue it sits elsewhere), and systems like 
>Simon Wittber's lightweight games toolkit
>  
>
there is also Panda3D, www.panda3d.org, that has python as one of it's 3d-app development languages... used in some commercial games...

/dario
 
-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-Ka"sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
Lyrics applied to programming & application design:
"emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley



From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr  Fri Oct  7 23:30:14 2005
From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 23:30:14 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<200510060100.21765.zathras@thwackety.com>
	<2mll17dmq7.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com>
Message-ID: <20051007213014.GC3180@logilab.fr>

On Thu, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:09:31PM +0100, Michael Sparks wrote:
> On Thursday 06 October 2005 10:21, Michael Hudson wrote:
> > Michael Sparks <zathras at thwackety.com> writes:
> > > Have we considered a games track BTW?
> >
> > No.  Or at least, I hadn't before now.
> 
> > Well, do you think you could get talks for this track?  As I said, I'd
> > like to avoid having too many tracks [confusing, etc]

I'd say get people to come talk about games first then make it into a
track of itself in case there is enough of them, which would be fun.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances  

From zathras at thwackety.com  Sat Oct  8 00:34:12 2005
From: zathras at thwackety.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 23:34:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] knock, knock!
In-Reply-To: <20051007213014.GC3180@logilab.fr>
References: <2m1x36iux3.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<200510062109.31795.zathras@thwackety.com>
	<20051007213014.GC3180@logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <200510072334.12895.zathras@thwackety.com>

On Friday 07 October 2005 22:30, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> which would be fun.

Friday night silly idea: 
   * What about the idea of a "Fun Track" ?

I write code because I find it fun. I work in software related work, because
luckily the two can co-incide, but the fact remains I find coding *FUN*. I 
fought to get our stuff released to the outside world, for all the reasons I 
argued internally, but also because we're having fun with our stuff, and it's 
nice to share the toys around. I also know if I had limbs chopped off it 
wouldn't stop me writing code. It's FUN. :-)

Some people don't understand the concept of "what do you do for a living" "I 
write code", followed by "What do you do for fun" "I write code" as being a 
valid answer. If however you answered "I'm an artist" they wouldn't find the 
idea of painting being fun odd. Having a FUN track ( or theme?) might help 
towards changing that.

EuroPython, *ESPECIALLY* lightning talks is about the infectious fun of
python, coding and related things to me. After all, my lightning talk last
year was about something I'd done for >>fun<<. It was probably mad, but
that's not the point :-)

I think I'm indebted though on some level to Armin for showing me
how presentations on stuff should be done - now they're fun all by
themselves :-)

I suppose games come under the fun category too ;-)

Dont-take-too-seriously-cos-its-friday-night-ly,


Michael.
(Proposing random tracks, not so they get set up, but as the email equivalent 
of brainstorming the purpose of tracks)

From roger.ineichen at projekt01.ch  Wed Oct 19 11:38:19 2005
From: roger.ineichen at projekt01.ch (Roger Ineichen)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:38:19 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Sprint organisation EuroPython 2006
Message-ID: <200510191138773.SM01236@mobile02>

Dear organisators

My name is Roger Ineichen, living in switzerland where the 
next EuroPython will be located.

My question is, is it possible to organize a sprint there?
I'm a developer working on the zope3 framework and I was
organizing some sprints earlier like the first Plone Sprint
in switzerland in berne with the SwissZope organisation.

The Sprint topic would be Zope3. See the link below for more info:
http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/SprintSched
ule

Can you give me the right contact address for future questions?


Thanks a lot
Roger Ineichen
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From mwh at python.net  Wed Oct 19 12:08:45 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:08:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sprint organisation EuroPython 2006
In-Reply-To: <200510191138773.SM01236@mobile02> (Roger Ineichen's message of
	"Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:38:19 +0200")
References: <200510191138773.SM01236@mobile02>
Message-ID: <2mek6h95ua.fsf@starship.python.net>

"Roger Ineichen" <roger.ineichen at projekt01.ch> writes:

> Dear organisators
>
> My name is Roger Ineichen, living in switzerland where the 
> next EuroPython will be located.
>
> My question is, is it possible to organize a sprint there?

I certainly hope so :)

> I'm a developer working on the zope3 framework and I was
> organizing some sprints earlier like the first Plone Sprint
> in switzerland in berne with the SwissZope organisation.
>
> The Sprint topic would be Zope3. See the link below for more info:
> http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/SprintSched
> ule
>
> Can you give me the right contact address for future questions?

Um, I think here is as good as anywhere.  The local boss man or
whatever you want to call him is Benedikt Hegner and I really hope
he's subscribed to this list :)

I don't think anyone has yet volunteered to take overall charge of the
'sprint issue' -- want a job? :)

Cheers,
mwh

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  <AdamV> SamB: PHP's basic control structure is the "database 
          timeout error".                       -- from Twisted.Quotes

From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch  Wed Oct 19 12:35:10 2005
From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 12:35:10 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Sprint organisation EuroPython 2006
In-Reply-To: <200510191138773.SM01236@mobile02>
References: <200510191138773.SM01236@mobile02>
Message-ID: <63494832-D059-45CF-AE6F-1F9550B602E3@cern.ch>

Hello Roger,

of course you can organize a sprint here. For questions - just use  
this list. :-)

Cheers
Benedikt


On 19.10.2005, at 11:38, Roger Ineichen wrote:

> Dear organisators
>
> My name is Roger Ineichen, living in switzerland where the
> next EuroPython will be located.
>
> My question is, is it possible to organize a sprint there?
> I'm a developer working on the zope3 framework and I was
> organizing some sprints earlier like the first Plone Sprint
> in switzerland in berne with the SwissZope organisation.
>
> The Sprint topic would be Zope3. See the link below for more info:
> http://www.zope.org/Wikis/DevSite/Projects/ComponentArchitecture/ 
> SprintSched
> ule
>
> Can you give me the right contact address for future questions?
>
>
> Thanks a lot
> Roger Ineichen
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From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Fri Oct 28 08:17:23 2005
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 08:17:23 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Pong!
Message-ID: <4361C273.3010201@ita.chalmers.se>

Folks, I think it is time to start making some noise.

May I suggest that we have an IRC meeting soon?

What times suit people best?

We also need to do some marketig - Benedikt, how are the announcements 
doing?

I also got very little feedback on the minutes I sent to the list. I 
don't know if that is good or bad.

I myself, would generally prefer around 19.00 CET for meetings, and I 
generally can't on tuesdays, wednesdays and fridays.

If not, I coudl schedule meetings during the day, but then the meetings 
would have to be very efficient (which is doable) and not last more than 
one hour. And probably no more than once every second week :)

Opinions? Counter-suggestions?

/dario

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From mwh at python.net  Fri Oct 28 10:28:54 2005
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 09:28:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Pong!
In-Reply-To: <4361C273.3010201@ita.chalmers.se> (
	=?iso-8859-1?q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten's_message_of?= "Fri, 28 Oct 2005
	08:17:23 +0200")
References: <4361C273.3010201@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <2mfyqm3v09.fsf@starship.python.net>

Dario Lopez-K?sten <dario at ita.chalmers.se> writes:

> Folks, I think it is time to start making some noise.
>
> May I suggest that we have an IRC meeting soon?

A good idea!

> What times suit people best?
>
> We also need to do some marketig - Benedikt, how are the announcements 
> doing?
>
> I also got very little feedback on the minutes I sent to the list. I 
> don't know if that is good or bad.
>
> I myself, would generally prefer around 19.00 CET for meetings, and I 
> generally can't on tuesdays, wednesdays and fridays.

Coincidentally, I'm fairly likely to be free on Mondays and Thursdays
too...

> If not, I coudl schedule meetings during the day, but then the meetings 
> would have to be very efficient (which is doable) and not last more than 
> one hour. And probably no more than once every second week :)

Well, I'm not sure that < 1 hour, only every fortnight are bad things
at this stage :)

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  nonono,  while we're making wild  conjectures about the behavior
  of completely irrelevant tasks, we must not also make serious
  mistakes, or the data might suddenly become statistically valid.
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From paul at zope-europe.org  Fri Oct 28 10:36:26 2005
From: paul at zope-europe.org (Paul Everitt)
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 10:36:26 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Pong!
In-Reply-To: <2mfyqm3v09.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <4361C273.3010201@ita.chalmers.se>
	<2mfyqm3v09.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <EBB90CC9-FFD0-4FBB-B793-FBC152123CF0@zope-europe.org>


On Oct 28, 2005, at 10:28 AM, Michael Hudson wrote:

> Dario Lopez-K?sten <dario at ita.chalmers.se> writes:
>
>
>> Folks, I think it is time to start making some noise.
>>
>> May I suggest that we have an IRC meeting soon?
>>
>
> A good idea!
>
>
>> What times suit people best?
>>
>> We also need to do some marketig - Benedikt, how are the  
>> announcements
>> doing?
>>
>> I also got very little feedback on the minutes I sent to the list. I
>> don't know if that is good or bad.
>>
>> I myself, would generally prefer around 19.00 CET for meetings, and I
>> generally can't on tuesdays, wednesdays and fridays.
>>
>
> Coincidentally, I'm fairly likely to be free on Mondays and Thursdays
> too...
>
>
>> If not, I coudl schedule meetings during the day, but then the  
>> meetings
>> would have to be very efficient (which is doable) and not last  
>> more than
>> one hour. And probably no more than once every second week :)
>>
>
> Well, I'm not sure that < 1 hour, only every fortnight are bad things
> at this stage :)

Me too.

--Paul