From ms at cerenity.org  Thu Feb  2 00:18:51 2006
From: ms at cerenity.org (Michael Sparks)
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2006 23:18:51 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Oops!
Message-ID: <200602012318.51126.ms@cerenity.org>

Hi,


Just a note to say that my absence from the list is largely accidental, I
*thought* the list had gone very quiet. I'm reading back through the
archives, and to cut through a few emails - yes, I'm very eager to see a
games track. Looking through the list of tracks though I've got no idea
where something like twisted fits in the the tracks on the wiki page.
However, I suspect the latter has already come up though, so I'll just
read the archives for the moment. 

Thanks to Michael (mwh) and Laura for prodding me!

Regards


Michael.
--
http://kamaelia.sf.net/Home
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/
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From ms at cerenity.org  Thu Feb  2 01:30:39 2006
From: ms at cerenity.org (Michael Sparks)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 00:30:39 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Oops!
In-Reply-To: <200602012318.51126.ms@cerenity.org>
References: <200602012318.51126.ms@cerenity.org>
Message-ID: <200602020030.39590.ms@cerenity.org>

> I'm reading back through the
> archives, and to cut through a few emails - yes, I'm very eager to see a
> games track. Looking through the list of tracks though I've got no idea
> where something like twisted fits in the the tracks on the wiki page.

I think I do now - given from irc:
(00:07:08) mwh: the python track is "language and tools" now

Twisted definitely fits in tools.

One thing that was just discussed on IRC was the idea of renaming the Games
track to "Games, Cool Hacks, and Other Fun Stuff" - I like this, but thought
it worth running past the list.

I'll summarise my other thoughts tomorrow, but for now this struck me as worth 
posting sooner rather than later given the idea of a call for proposals soon

Regards,


Michael.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/
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From hpk at trillke.net  Thu Feb  2 06:53:35 2006
From: hpk at trillke.net (holger krekel)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 06:53:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] #europython minutes 23rd January 2006
In-Reply-To: <20060131194605.GC1644@crater.logilab.fr>
References: <20060123171948.GB13417@solar.trillke.net>
	<E6038AEF-C9A9-4721-802C-812D4AAAF593@zope-europe.org>
	<20060131081237.GW13417@solar.trillke.net>
	<20060131194605.GC1644@crater.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <20060202055335.GK13417@solar.trillke.net>

On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 20:46 +0100, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 31, 2006 at 09:12:37AM +0100, holger krekel wrote:
> > but about Seaside (http://seaside.st) and possibly other approaches 
> > that leverage language features not existing in Python. 
> 
> Sounds interesting. Do you have time to share pointers ?

not too many - but yesterday i talked to Jan Balster who
reminded me that e.g. Erlang has nice concurrency primitives
based on continuations, leading to e.g. nice results regarding
handling of many concurrent connections. 

    http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/classic/message5763.html

IMO the idea is to investigate ways to simplify web
programming by an order of magnitude - it just got too complex
(although it thus sustains many companies :) 

cheers, 

    holger

From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Mon Feb  6 11:15:53 2006
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 11:15:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Adding fuel to the flames
Message-ID: <43E721D9.3070907@ita.chalmers.se>

:-)

http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.announce/5919

"""
New Mailing List for PyCon Technology and Conference Software
From: Jeff Rush <jeff <at> taupro.com>
Subject: New Mailing List for PyCon Technology and Conference Software
Date: 2006-02-05 10:53:48 GMT

I have arranged for the creation of a new mailing list under python.org 
for the discussion of software development for PyCon, of any type and 
for any year.  We've been sending a lot of email privately and making 
the process more visible would be good I think.  There are a few 
disjoint efforts and a list would bring them together.

This list is also for the discussion of other technical matters related 
to PyCon such as the audio/video recording efforts.

This list can also help us prepare for the conference-software sprint 
that Andrew Kuching is pushing for PyCon this year.

Please consider signing up by visiting:

    http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pycon-tech

-Jeff

"""

/dario

-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
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Lyrics applied to programming & application design:
"emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley


From aiste at pov.lt  Mon Feb  6 12:00:13 2006
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 13:00:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython]  irc meeting this afternoon
In-Reply-To: <2m1wyzntu8.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2m1wyzntu8.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <43E72C3D.5020006@pov.lt>

Hello,

Somewhat late reminder about an irc meeting on #europython today at 1700
CET.

A loose agenda is as folows:

* Budget considerations
* Web site software
* Things left to do before cpf
* Date of the next meeting

-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt

From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch  Mon Feb  6 16:56:31 2006
From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner)
Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 16:56:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] irc meeting this afternoon
In-Reply-To: <43E72C3D.5020006@pov.lt>
References: <2m1wyzntu8.fsf@starship.python.net> <43E72C3D.5020006@pov.lt>
Message-ID: <65E9905C-D234-48CC-B6E4-A941F43314CF@cern.ch>

Hello,

unfortunalety I am in another meeting at CERN at the moment. So I  
can't attend the europython meeting today. I will give you an update  
during the next meeting.

Benedikt




On Feb 6, 2006, at 12:00 PM, Aiste Kesminaite wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Somewhat late reminder about an irc meeting on #europython today at  
> 1700
> CET.
>
> A loose agenda is as folows:
>
> * Budget considerations
> * Web site software
> * Things left to do before cpf
> * Date of the next meeting
>
> -- 
> Aiste Kesminaite
> Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
> Phone: +370 6563 6462
> Email: aiste at pov.lt
> Web: www.pov.lt
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython


From mwh at python.net  Mon Feb  6 17:41:19 2006
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 16:41:19 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] irc meeting this afternoon
In-Reply-To: <65E9905C-D234-48CC-B6E4-A941F43314CF@cern.ch> (Benedikt
	Hegner's message of "Mon, 6 Feb 2006 16:56:31 +0100")
References: <2m1wyzntu8.fsf@starship.python.net> <43E72C3D.5020006@pov.lt>
	<65E9905C-D234-48CC-B6E4-A941F43314CF@cern.ch>
Message-ID: <2moe1ke8y8.fsf@starship.python.net>

Benedikt Hegner <benedikt.hegner at cern.ch> writes:

> Hello,
>
> unfortunalety I am in another meeting at CERN at the moment. So I  
> can't attend the europython meeting today. I will give you an update  
> during the next meeting.

If the next meeting was in a week's time at 1700 would you be able to
make that?

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  > You're already using asyncore so you can't really be worried
  > about complexity <wink>.
(-8  .helps which, demand on backwards work to brain my rewired I've
                                      -- Jeremy Hylton & Richie Hindle

From arigo at tunes.org  Tue Feb  7 12:06:11 2006
From: arigo at tunes.org (Armin Rigo)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 12:06:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Refereed papers track CFP
Message-ID: <20060207110611.GA6712@code0.codespeak.net>

Hi Michael,

The Refereed Papers call for papers from last year (still showing on the
site as if it were for 2006) should be kept, with only corrections in
the dates:

22 April 2005 -> 5 May 2006
1 May 2005 -> 15 May 2006
1 June 2005 -> 17 June 2006

I've pushed the dates to be (relatively speaking) a bit later than last
year, because from last year's experience we don't need much time
between the full paper submission (3rd date) and the beginning of the
conference.


Armin

From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch  Tue Feb  7 13:26:10 2006
From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:26:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] irc meeting this afternoon
In-Reply-To: <2moe1ke8y8.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2m1wyzntu8.fsf@starship.python.net> <43E72C3D.5020006@pov.lt>
	<65E9905C-D234-48CC-B6E4-A941F43314CF@cern.ch>
	<2moe1ke8y8.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <202A0F73-42C7-46EB-B05B-904760B5C8FD@cern.ch>

Yes, next week same time would be okay.
Will there be minutes of the yesterday's meeting?

Cheers
Benedikt

On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Michael Hudson wrote:

> Benedikt Hegner <benedikt.hegner at cern.ch> writes:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> unfortunalety I am in another meeting at CERN at the moment. So I
>> can't attend the europython meeting today. I will give you an update
>> during the next meeting.
>
> If the next meeting was in a week's time at 1700 would you be able to
> make that?
>
> Cheers,
> mwh
>
> -- 
>> You're already using asyncore so you can't really be worried
>> about complexity <wink>.
> (-8  .helps which, demand on backwards work to brain my rewired I've
>                                       -- Jeremy Hylton & Richie Hindle


From paul at zope-europe.org  Tue Feb  7 18:01:48 2006
From: paul at zope-europe.org (Paul Everitt)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 18:01:48 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] irc meeting this afternoon
In-Reply-To: <202A0F73-42C7-46EB-B05B-904760B5C8FD@cern.ch>
References: <2m1wyzntu8.fsf@starship.python.net> <43E72C3D.5020006@pov.lt>
	<65E9905C-D234-48CC-B6E4-A941F43314CF@cern.ch>
	<2moe1ke8y8.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<202A0F73-42C7-46EB-B05B-904760B5C8FD@cern.ch>
Message-ID: <87C4FEA6-CAB7-4A3F-BCDE-1FAA0E8734A8@zope-europe.org>


I will be on travel at that time, unfortunately.

--Paul

On Feb 7, 2006, at 1:26 PM, Benedikt Hegner wrote:

> Yes, next week same time would be okay.
> Will there be minutes of the yesterday's meeting?
>
> Cheers
> Benedikt
>
> On Feb 6, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Michael Hudson wrote:
>
>> Benedikt Hegner <benedikt.hegner at cern.ch> writes:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> unfortunalety I am in another meeting at CERN at the moment. So I
>>> can't attend the europython meeting today. I will give you an update
>>> during the next meeting.
>>
>> If the next meeting was in a week's time at 1700 would you be able to
>> make that?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> mwh
>>
>> --  
>>> You're already using asyncore so you can't really be worried
>>> about complexity <wink>.
>> (-8  .helps which, demand on backwards work to brain my rewired I've
>>                                       -- Jeremy Hylton & Richie  
>> Hindle
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>


From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Tue Feb  7 18:22:40 2006
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2006 18:22:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] irc meeting this afternoon
In-Reply-To: <87C4FEA6-CAB7-4A3F-BCDE-1FAA0E8734A8@zope-europe.org>
References: <2m1wyzntu8.fsf@starship.python.net> <43E72C3D.5020006@pov.lt>
	<65E9905C-D234-48CC-B6E4-A941F43314CF@cern.ch>
	<2moe1ke8y8.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<202A0F73-42C7-46EB-B05B-904760B5C8FD@cern.ch>
	<87C4FEA6-CAB7-4A3F-BCDE-1FAA0E8734A8@zope-europe.org>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0602070922k532dcb20rad5803b9feee2507@mail.gmail.com>

Me too. Away in week of year 5,7,9,10,12

Harald

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From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch  Thu Feb  9 17:23:00 2006
From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:23:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] minutes from monday
Message-ID: <DE40019C-2FFA-4E20-8349-C9BE296E37C7@cern.ch>

Hi all,

I wanted to ask again for the minutes of the meeting on monday. Are  
there any?

Cheers
Benedikt



-- 
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Office: 1d/38a
Phone: +49 (0)40 8998 1797
Fax:   +49 (0)40 8998 1812

at  CERN:
Office: 32/4b-20
Phone: +41 (0)22 767 6487
Fax:   +41 (0)22 782 8923




From mwh at python.net  Thu Feb  9 20:44:50 2006
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 19:44:50 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] minutes from monday
In-Reply-To: <DE40019C-2FFA-4E20-8349-C9BE296E37C7@cern.ch> (Benedikt
	Hegner's message of "Thu, 9 Feb 2006 17:23:00 +0100")
References: <DE40019C-2FFA-4E20-8349-C9BE296E37C7@cern.ch>
Message-ID: <2m7j84e2q5.fsf@starship.python.net>

Benedikt Hegner <benedikt.hegner at cern.ch> writes:

> Hi all,
>
> I wanted to ask again for the minutes of the meeting on monday. Are  
> there any?

Not really; the meeting was a bit of a damp squib, few people turned
up and not much was said.  Here's a log:

[16:02] zopepaul joined the chat room.
[16:02] Aiste: hi zopepaul
[16:02] zopepaul: how-deeee
[16:05] Aiste: very quiet in here for some reason...
[16:05] Aiste: aren't we supposed to be starting the meeting about now?
[16:05] zopepaul: because everything is going so smoothly? :)
[16:05] zopepaul: yup
[16:05] zopepaul: wants to make sure he gets credit for showing up on time
[16:06] mwh: heh
[16:06] mwh: yeah, not a great turn out
[16:06] Aiste: :))
[16:06] mwh: i know michael sparks couldn't make it
[16:08] zopepaul: so, we load all the work up on the no-shows, right?
[16:09] mwh: sounds good to me
[16:09] Aiste: yup
[16:09] Aiste: that's what POV does in its daily meetings :))
[16:09] mwh: who can we assign to write the website? :)
[16:09] MrTopf: now I understand why you have _daily_ meetings
[16:09] ghum joined the chat room.
[16:10] mwh: ghum: hi!
[16:10] ghum: Guten Abend. Good Evening. Gooden Abend. Ahallamahall
[16:11] Aiste: ghum: hi
[16:11] Aiste: sooo, shall we start?
[16:11] mwh: ghum: did you see that you got volunteered to help john with the business track?
[16:11] mwh: Aiste: may as well
[16:12] ghum: mwh: really did not read it  that strong, but I would really feel great joy to do bt togehter with john
[16:12] mwh: good
[16:13] lac: hi all
[16:13] ghum: (I also feel great joy just to appear as a speaker :) )
[16:14] mwh: i don't know how much about the budget can be said without benedikt
[16:15] mwh: i seem to recall that the last time we talked about it, we wanted to charge speakers a bit more than he first proposed
[16:15] Aiste: yes
[16:16] ghum: yes
[16:16] mwh: ghum: i also wondered if you'd like to help collect/run lightning talks
[16:17] Aiste: mwh: i was wondering, were there track description last year?
[16:17] mwh: Aiste: probably :)
[16:17] Aiste: hm... where could i find them, do you know?
[16:17] jacob22|home joined the chat room.
[16:17] mwh: http://www.europython.org/sections/tracks_and_talks/track_overview/propose_a_talk
[16:18] ghum: mwh: of course I can help running the lightning talks. The "dynamic collecting method" of the years before felt perfect
[16:18] mwh: ghum: cool
[16:18] mwh: this is a much less urgent issue of course
[16:18] Aiste: mwh: thanks :)
[16:18] ghum: mwh: of course
[16:19] Aiste: so, what about the budget? or do we leave that for Benedikt? seeing as he did not show up? :)
[16:19] ghum: I just will prepare countdownslides and the HOLY HANDGRANADE
[16:19] mwh: Aiste: i don't have anything meaningful to say myself
[16:19] Aiste: same here...
[16:20] Aiste: right, this is not going well
[16:20] Aiste: shall we move to another issue?
[16:20] Aiste: and discuss this one on the mailing list or through emails?
[16:20] ghum: Yes, Aiste
[16:21] Aiste: oops, nextt issue is website software
[16:21] Aiste: runs to hide somewhere far away
[16:21] ghum: *hides somewhere else then Aiste
[16:21] mwh: too
[16:22] mwh: slightly more seriously, i'm somewhat favourable to the idea of using cerns software
[16:22] zopepaul: me too
[16:22] mwh: aiui, the main issue would be credit card payments
[16:23] ghum: mwh: my impression was that the programmers sit at CERN, and so Benedikt can threaten them easier
[16:23] Aiste: what was used last year for that?
[16:23] joachimS: worldpay
[16:23] Aiste: ah, ok
[16:23] jacob22|home: So, the CERN software is capable of the things I listed?
[16:23] joachimS: i could integrate that with cerns software I assume
[16:24] mwh: jacob22|home: with sufficient effort, certainly
[16:25] mwh: with merely reasonable effort, notsure
[16:25] mwh: it's data store is a zodb database
[16:25] mwh: (though it's not a zope app)
[16:26] Aiste: um... who s supposed to be resposible for this?
[16:26] Aiste: i.e. using the software?
[16:26] ghum: Benedikt?
[16:27] lac: nobody who is at this meeting, apparantly.
[16:27] Aiste: :)
[16:28] Aiste: "good" meeting
[16:28] mwh: sigh
[16:28] mwh: i suppose i will be using the software a fair bit to sort out the schedule, etc
[16:29] Aiste: anyway, is there anything that we can decide without Benedikt?
[16:29] jacob22|home: Benedikt sent something to the list a few minutes ago.
[16:29] Aiste: yeah, saying that he won't attend
[16:29] zopepaul: Aiste: just as an update on the web frameworks, my spies are going to pycon, looking for a good keynoter for the track
[16:30] zopepaul: i posted on my weblog and attracted...errr....some energetic anti-zopers :)
[16:30] mwh: zopepaul: you haven't sent me a blurb yet :)
[16:30] zopepaul: errr, oops :)
[16:32] Aiste: looks like this meeting is going down the drain
[16:33] Aiste: any point in talking any further?
[16:33] mwh: Aiste: yes :(
[16:33] mwh: well, i'd like to talk a little about the call for papers
[16:33] Aiste: maybe we should scedule another one soonish, and discuss what we could not today?
[16:33] mwh: we need to do at least these things:
[16:33] mwh: (a) get descriptions of all tracks
[16:34] mwh: (b) attack the/a website until submitting papers is actually possible
[16:34] mwh: (c) write the damn thing and send it out
[16:34] mwh: anything else?
[16:36] Aiste: umm.. I will shamelessly copy previous years social tracks description and submit that :)
[16:36] mwh: ok :)
[16:37] mwh: and yes, another meeting soon sounds like a good idea!
[16:37] ghum: mwh: with John Pinner contact you had?
[16:37] Aiste: next week?
[16:38] zopepaul: mwh: i suggest using the next meeting as the deadline for that list
[16:39] ghum: <- is unavailable nxt week
[16:39] mwh: ghum: yes, he sent me a mail
[16:39] mwh: Aiste: yes, perhaps
[16:39] mwh: lets ask benedikt if he can attend first :)
[16:39] Aiste: ok, that's a good idea
[16:40] Aiste: mwh: can you send him an email?
[16:40] mwh: ok
[16:41] mwh: done :)
[16:42] Aiste: good, so we wait for a reply and then announce on the mailing list?
[16:42] lac: is this meeting closed?
[16:42] mwh: lac: i guess so
[16:42] mwh: Aiste: i sent the mail to the list, hopefully he'll reply there
[16:43] lac: ok take care all

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  There's a difference between random people with stripy jumpers, 
  and a respected scientist with a reputation.
                                            -- Steve Kitson, ucam.chat

From benedikt.hegner at desy.de  Thu Feb  9 16:38:42 2006
From: benedikt.hegner at desy.de (Benedikt Hegner)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:38:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] europython in CERN courier
Message-ID: <915F428D-E469-418E-A786-B0BF5C39A2C4@desy.de>

http://www.cerncourier.com/main/article/46/1/19

From mwh at python.net  Mon Feb 13 01:12:39 2006
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 00:12:39 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] irc meeting this afternoon
In-Reply-To: <202A0F73-42C7-46EB-B05B-904760B5C8FD@cern.ch> (Benedikt
	Hegner's message of "Tue, 7 Feb 2006 13:26:10 +0100")
References: <2m1wyzntu8.fsf@starship.python.net> <43E72C3D.5020006@pov.lt>
	<65E9905C-D234-48CC-B6E4-A941F43314CF@cern.ch>
	<2moe1ke8y8.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<202A0F73-42C7-46EB-B05B-904760B5C8FD@cern.ch>
Message-ID: <2mbqxcce14.fsf@starship.python.net>

Benedikt Hegner <benedikt.hegner at cern.ch> writes:

> Yes, next week same time would be okay.

Let's meet then, then.  See you all on #europython IRC 1700 CET 13th
Feb, apart from Paul and Harald.

Main topics (at a guess): budget, getting the call for papers/paper
submission going.

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  Counting lines is probably a good idea if you want to print it out
  and are short on paper, but I fail to see the purpose otherwise.
                                        -- Erik Naggum, comp.lang.lisp

From mwh at python.net  Mon Feb 13 18:55:40 2006
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:55:40 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] europython meeting summary 2006-02-13
Message-ID: <2mwtfzb0tf.fsf@starship.python.net>

These are sort-of minutes for the EuroPython organization sort-of
meeting that happened in the #europython channel today (2006-02-13).

The next meeting will be a week today, the 20th of Feb. at 11AM
CET. <- please note earlier time!

We could do with someone to prepare, moderate and minute the meeting
as I am unlikely to have time to do it myself.

As the meeting was not that well attended, I'd be interested in your
opinions on any of the topics discussed.  Especially the budget.

Minutes of EuroPython meeting 2006-02-13
----------------------------------------

Time & Location: #europython 13th Feb 2006, 5:00pm-6:15pm CET 

Attendees: Michael Hudson, Holger Krekel, Benedikt Hegner, Joachim
           Schmitz, Michael Sparks.

* Call for papers preparation.

  http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2006/TrackDescriptions now
  contains descriptions for most of the tracks we're going to have at
  EP2006.  Assuming it's finished in the next few days, Michael H
  promised to write a draft Call For Papers by the end of the week.
  He also agreed to draft a more general conference announcement.

* Website stuff

  It seems there has been a de-facto decision made to use CERN's
  indico software.

  The instance at http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=44
  is currently in "private" mode.  If you want to look at/help out
  with it, please create an account at the page you get when you visit
  the above link and let me or Benedikt know the account name.

  There were further, mostly unanswered questions about the website:
  do we want an additional "PR/pretty" website?  Do we want to point
  europython.org to the indico site?  Who controls europython.org
  anyway?

* The Games^WHacks and fun^W^W^WMichael Sparks track

  Currently Michael Sparks is listed as chairing a "Games" track.  He
  asked for opinions on changing the title of the track to "games,
  cool hacks and other fun stuff".  There was concern that this seemed
  too broad, and in particular is very similar to the "Misfits" track.
  Michael said he'd "have a ponder and try and come up with something
  less wide ranging".

* Budget

  The only written down plans for the budget so far were in this mail:

  http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/2006-January/005551.html

  Michael H observed that he thought there was consensus to not give
  speakers so much of a discount.  There was some discussion about
  whether they should have a discount at all, and I think the eventual
  plan was to give them a small discount.

  As far as I know, the consensus was for this price structure:

              Early Bird     Normal      On the door
    Speakers    120            120       please no :)
    Students     65            100         150
    Normal      120            190         240

  but I admit to not being completely sure.  This should be talked
  about on the mailing list.

* Timeline

  A month or so back the following timeline was proposed:

      15th February  Call for Proposals 
      March          Opening online Registration (Payment issue pending!) 
      31st March     Deadline for proposal submissions
      30th April     Prelininary Program with accepted talks 
      19th May       Closing Early Bird registration 

  There was consensus that this still seemed reasonable, modulo the
  fact that the call for papers is not going to be out by Wednesday
  (but hopefully not that long after_.

* Payment Processing

  Joachim agreed to look at integrating worldpay payment into Indico.
  Benedikt pointed him at the source.

-- 
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  <exarkun> a towel of IMMENSE POWER, yes.
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From Michael.Sparks at bbc.co.uk  Wed Feb 15 12:39:43 2006
From: Michael.Sparks at bbc.co.uk (Michael Sparks)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 11:39:43 -0000
Subject: [EuroPython] europython meeting summary 2006-02-13
Message-ID: <970EA43399796C4695F7DC732DB30C82271D94@bbcxue404.national.core.bbc.co.uk>

On Mon 2/13/2006 5:55 PM, Michael Hudson wrote
> * The Games^WHacks and fun^W^W^WMichael Sparks track
..
>   Michael said he'd "have a ponder and try and come up with something
>   less wide ranging".

I came up with "Games and Entertainment" instead, which better covers
the area. I've put up a track description, any criticism/suggestions
welcome. I think the description/name now better describes what I
meant should be in the track.

> * Budget
>
>   As far as I know, the consensus was for this price structure:
>
>               Early Bird     Normal      On the door
>     Speakers    120            120       please no :)
>     Students     65            100         150
>     Normal      120            190         240
>
>  but I admit to not being completely sure.  This should be talked
>  about on the mailing list.

I think my only comment here echoes what I said in the meeting which is
that if the discount for early bird was the same, and the premium on the
door is the same, then it's somewhat simpler to describe (I'm thinking
of leaflets at python meets in London & Manchester for example).

Whether it's a percentage or a raw amount is moot. (The structure above
looks like 35% discount for early bird, and 50 Euro premium for on the
door)

Regards,


Michael.
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From js at aixtraware.de  Wed Feb 15 14:37:51 2006
From: js at aixtraware.de (Joachim Schmitz)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 14:37:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] europython meeting summary 2006-02-13
In-Reply-To: <2mwtfzb0tf.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2mwtfzb0tf.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <43F32EAF.2090208@aixtraware.de>

Michael Hudson schrieb:
> These are sort-of minutes for the EuroPython organization sort-of
> meeting that happened in the #europython channel today (2006-02-13).
....
> * Website stuff
> 
>   It seems there has been a de-facto decision made to use CERN's
>   indico software.
> 
>   The instance at http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=44
>   is currently in "private" mode.  If you want to look at/help out
>   with it, please create an account at the page you get when you visit
>   the above link and let me or Benedikt know the account name.
I registered as perry.

<snip>

> 
> * Payment Processing
> 
>   Joachim agreed to look at integrating worldpay payment into Indico.
>   Benedikt pointed him at the source.
> 

I looked at the Usermanual of IndiCo, it has a Registration part, but
nothing for paying or keeping track of any fees, as far as I can tell.
It will be difficult to integrate a Paymentsolution, when there is no
Payment possible at all.


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From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch  Wed Feb 15 15:37:19 2006
From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner)
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 15:37:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] europython meeting summary 2006-02-13
In-Reply-To: <43F32EAF.2090208@aixtraware.de>
References: <2mwtfzb0tf.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<43F32EAF.2090208@aixtraware.de>
Message-ID: <42C54BF4-302A-4BD0-B5B4-BCCDB576937C@cern.ch>


On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:37 PM, Joachim Schmitz wrote:

> Michael Hudson schrieb:
>> These are sort-of minutes for the EuroPython organization sort-of
>> meeting that happened in the #europython channel today (2006-02-13).
> ....
>> * Website stuff
>>
>>   It seems there has been a de-facto decision made to use CERN's
>>   indico software.
>>
>>   The instance at http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py? 
>> confId=44
>>   is currently in "private" mode.  If you want to look at/help out
>>   with it, please create an account at the page you get when you  
>> visit
>>   the above link and let me or Benedikt know the account name.
> I registered as perry.
Done

>>
>> * Payment Processing
>>
>>   Joachim agreed to look at integrating worldpay payment into Indico.
>>   Benedikt pointed him at the source.
>>
>
> I looked at the Usermanual of IndiCo, it has a Registration part, but
> nothing for paying or keeping track of any fees, as far as I can tell.
> It will be difficult to integrate a Paymentsolution, when there is no
> Payment possible at all.
Please have a look at the solution now available.

Cheers
Benedikt




From mal at egenix.com  Thu Feb 16 13:30:13 2006
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:30:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] europython meeting summary 2006-02-13
In-Reply-To: <2mwtfzb0tf.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2mwtfzb0tf.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <43F47055.80105@egenix.com>

Michael Hudson wrote:
> * Budget
> 
>   The only written down plans for the budget so far were in this mail:
> 
>   http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/2006-January/005551.html
> 
>   Michael H observed that he thought there was consensus to not give
>   speakers so much of a discount.  There was some discussion about
>   whether they should have a discount at all, and I think the eventual
>   plan was to give them a small discount.
> 
>   As far as I know, the consensus was for this price structure:
> 
>               Early Bird     Normal      On the door
>     Speakers    120            120       please no :)
>     Students     65            100         150
>     Normal      120            190         240
> 
>   but I admit to not being completely sure.  This should be talked
>   about on the mailing list.

Could you give us an idea of what prices around CERN (hotels,
restaurants, etc.) are like ?

At conference like EPC and PyCon, the conference fees are usually
not a major cost factor - it's the accommodation, food and getting
there that makes up for 90% of the costs.

I've looked around on the CERN web-site, but couldn't find
any infos on e.g. hotel recommendations.

Thanks,
-- 
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From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch  Thu Feb 16 13:40:27 2006
From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:40:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] europython meeting summary 2006-02-13
In-Reply-To: <43F47055.80105@egenix.com>
References: <2mwtfzb0tf.fsf@starship.python.net> <43F47055.80105@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <CD6ADE63-40C3-4F6D-B3DF-CA118309207E@cern.ch>

http://housing-service.web.cern.ch/housing-service/listhotel.html
http://housing-service.web.cern.ch/housing-service/hostelwelc.html

Hope that helps
Benedikt

On Feb 16, 2006, at 1:30 PM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:

> Michael Hudson wrote:
>> * Budget
>>
>>   The only written down plans for the budget so far were in this  
>> mail:
>>
>>   http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/2006-January/ 
>> 005551.html
>>
>>   Michael H observed that he thought there was consensus to not give
>>   speakers so much of a discount.  There was some discussion about
>>   whether they should have a discount at all, and I think the  
>> eventual
>>   plan was to give them a small discount.
>>
>>   As far as I know, the consensus was for this price structure:
>>
>>               Early Bird     Normal      On the door
>>     Speakers    120            120       please no :)
>>     Students     65            100         150
>>     Normal      120            190         240
>>
>>   but I admit to not being completely sure.  This should be talked
>>   about on the mailing list.
>
> Could you give us an idea of what prices around CERN (hotels,
> restaurants, etc.) are like ?
>
> At conference like EPC and PyCon, the conference fees are usually
> not a major cost factor - it's the accommodation, food and getting
> there that makes up for 90% of the costs.
>
> I've looked around on the CERN web-site, but couldn't find
> any infos on e.g. hotel recommendations.
>
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> eGenix.com
>
> Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Feb 16  
> 2006)
>>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http:// 
>>>> www.egenix.com/
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>>>> zope.egenix.com/
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>>>> python.egenix.com/
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From mwh at python.net  Sun Feb 19 21:25:55 2006
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:25:55 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] meeting tomorrow 20th feb #europython 1700 CET
Message-ID: <2mslqf859o.fsf@starship.python.net>

I haven't prepared any sort of agenda yet.  I will tomorrow, if noone
else beats me to it :)  For now, the message is just "please turn up".

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  /* I'd just like to take this moment to point out that C has all
     the expressive power of two dixie cups and a string.
   */                       -- Jamie Zawinski from the xkeycaps source

From mwh at python.net  Mon Feb 20 10:56:58 2006
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 09:56:58 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] how many europython people are going to pycon
	(us)/python uk?
Message-ID: <2moe128iad.fsf@starship.python.net>

A random thought: how many people who might be involved in/attending
EuroPython are going to PyCon TX in a week's time?  I know some of us
PyPyers are.  We could maybe get together and talk EuroPython things
over a beer.

I guess I could ask the same question about the ACCU/Python UK
conference in April.

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
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From mwh at python.net  Mon Feb 20 11:03:21 2006
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 10:03:21 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] meeting ***NOW***
In-Reply-To: <2mslqf859o.fsf@starship.python.net> (Michael Hudson's message
	of "Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:25:55 +0000")
References: <2mslqf859o.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <2mk6bq8hzq.fsf@starship.python.net>

Michael Hudson <mwh at python.net> writes:

> I haven't prepared any sort of agenda yet.  I will tomorrow, if noone
> else beats me to it :)  For now, the message is just "please turn up".

Oops, the meeting is *right now* !

Cheers,
mwh

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From mwh at python.net  Mon Feb 20 12:31:18 2006
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 11:31:18 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] website
Message-ID: <2mfyme8dx5.fsf@starship.python.net>

In the EuroPython meeting this morning, we talked quite a bit about
the website story.  As has been mentioned before, we're going to use
CERN's indico software for the actual conference bits, but indico is
no general web server and so we need something else to hold press
releases, interviews, perhaps travel and other general information and
so on, and probably have this site be what the visitor sees at
http://www.europython.org/.

For one reason and another, it would be nice to not totally bin what
is currently at http://www.europython.org/ and instead archive the
2005 version somewhere and use the existing set up and look and feel
to present this year's information.  This, however, requires someone
who knows about CPS.  While I was writing this mail I talked to
Stefane Fermigier on #europython and he said he'd be willing to help
with this, but it seems worth posting the mail anyway.  So: does this
sound like a reasonable plan to you?  Are you willing/able to help?

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
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  the pointy thing to hold, but where to poke it for maximum effect.
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From jmo at ita.chalmers.se  Mon Feb 20 14:17:53 2006
From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet)
Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:17:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] website
In-Reply-To: <2mfyme8dx5.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2mfyme8dx5.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <43F9C181.4010107@ita.chalmers.se>

Michael Hudson wrote:

>In the EuroPython meeting this morning, we talked quite a bit about
>the website story.  As has been mentioned before, we're going to use
>CERN's indico software for the actual conference bits, but indico is
>no general web server and so we need something else to hold press
>releases, interviews, perhaps travel and other general information and
>so on, and probably have this site be what the visitor sees at
>http://www.europython.org/.
>
>For one reason and another, it would be nice to not totally bin what
>is currently at http://www.europython.org/ and instead archive the
>2005 version somewhere and use the existing set up and look and feel
>to present this year's information.  This, however, requires someone
>who knows about CPS.  While I was writing this mail I talked to
>Stefane Fermigier on #europython and he said he'd be willing to help
>with this, but it seems worth posting the mail anyway.  So: does this
>sound like a reasonable plan to you?  Are you willing/able to help?
>
>Cheers,
>mwh
>
>  
>

Hi, Michael,

it is possible to update the existing site to CPS3.4  (I mailed St?fane 
about it) - there have been many improvements in terms of UI, and 
regorganize the content. But I won't have much time for it before the 
end of the week.

regards
/JM



From mwh at python.net  Sun Feb 26 21:57:05 2006
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 20:57:05 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] website
In-Reply-To: <43F9C181.4010107@ita.chalmers.se> (Jean-Marc Orliaguet's
	message of "Mon, 20 Feb 2006 14:17:53 +0100")
References: <2mfyme8dx5.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<43F9C181.4010107@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <2m7j7h7s9q.fsf@starship.python.net>

Jean-Marc Orliaguet <jmo at ita.chalmers.se> writes:

> Michael Hudson wrote:
>
>>In the EuroPython meeting this morning, we talked quite a bit about
>>the website story.  As has been mentioned before, we're going to use
>>CERN's indico software for the actual conference bits, but indico is
>>no general web server and so we need something else to hold press
>>releases, interviews, perhaps travel and other general information and
>>so on, and probably have this site be what the visitor sees at
>>http://www.europython.org/.
>>
>>For one reason and another, it would be nice to not totally bin what
>>is currently at http://www.europython.org/ and instead archive the
>>2005 version somewhere and use the existing set up and look and feel
>>to present this year's information.  This, however, requires someone
>>who knows about CPS.  While I was writing this mail I talked to
>>Stefane Fermigier on #europython and he said he'd be willing to help
>>with this, but it seems worth posting the mail anyway.  So: does this
>>sound like a reasonable plan to you?  Are you willing/able to help?
>>
>>Cheers,
>>mwh
>>
>>  
>>
>
> Hi, Michael,
>
> it is possible to update the existing site to CPS3.4  (I mailed St?fane 
> about it) - there have been many improvements in terms of UI, and 
> regorganize the content. But I won't have much time for it before the 
> end of the week.

So is anything happening on this front?

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
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        "miscellaneous percussion"              -- from Twisted.Quotes

From jmo at ita.chalmers.se  Sun Feb 26 22:18:21 2006
From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet)
Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 22:18:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] website
In-Reply-To: <2m7j7h7s9q.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <2mfyme8dx5.fsf@starship.python.net>	<43F9C181.4010107@ita.chalmers.se>
	<2m7j7h7s9q.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <44021B1D.1040407@ita.chalmers.se>

Michael Hudson wrote:

>Jean-Marc Orliaguet <jmo at ita.chalmers.se> writes:
>
>  
>
>>Hi, Michael,
>>
>>it is possible to update the existing site to CPS3.4  (I mailed St?fane 
>>about it) - there have been many improvements in terms of UI, and 
>>regorganize the content. But I won't have much time for it before the 
>>end of the week.
>>    
>>
>
>So is anything happening on this front?
>
>Cheers,
>mwh
>
>  
>

Hi,

we need zope2.9 to upgrade to CPS3.4 for the new www.europython.org, and 
a new instance (e.g. ep2005.europython.org) to archive the current site.

can someone at amaze.nl do the zope2.9 / DNS setup?

thanks
/JM



From ivo at m3r.nl  Mon Feb 27 11:48:32 2006
From: ivo at m3r.nl (Ivo van der Wijk)
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 11:48:32 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] website
In-Reply-To: <44021B1D.1040407@ita.chalmers.se>
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Message-ID: <20060227104832.GN2823@m3r.nl>

On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 10:18:21PM +0100, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
> Michael Hudson wrote:
> 
> >Jean-Marc Orliaguet <jmo at ita.chalmers.se> writes:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Hi, Michael,
> >>
> >>it is possible to update the existing site to CPS3.4  (I mailed St?fane 
> >>about it) - there have been many improvements in terms of UI, and 
> >>regorganize the content. But I won't have much time for it before the 
> >>end of the week.
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >So is anything happening on this front?
> >
> >Cheers,
> >mwh
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> Hi,
> 
> we need zope2.9 to upgrade to CPS3.4 for the new www.europython.org, and 
> a new instance (e.g. ep2005.europython.org) to archive the current site.
> 
> can someone at amaze.nl do the zope2.9 / DNS setup?
> 

Hi,

I no longer work for / am affiliated with Amaze, so I can't help you
anymore with your hosting questions, unfortunately.

Please contact support at amaze.nl for support questions.

Regards (and still hope to see you all at EP2006 ;)

	Ivo

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From jmo at ita.chalmers.se  Tue Feb 28 12:53:50 2006
From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet)
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2006 12:53:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] website
In-Reply-To: <20060227104832.GN2823@m3r.nl>
References: <2mfyme8dx5.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<43F9C181.4010107@ita.chalmers.se>
	<2m7j7h7s9q.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<44021B1D.1040407@ita.chalmers.se> <20060227104832.GN2823@m3r.nl>
Message-ID: <440439CE.3000901@ita.chalmers.se>

Ivo van der Wijk wrote:

>On Sun, Feb 26, 2006 at 10:18:21PM +0100, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:
>  
>
>>Michael Hudson wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Jean-Marc Orliaguet <jmo at ita.chalmers.se> writes:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Hi, Michael,
>>>>
>>>>it is possible to update the existing site to CPS3.4  (I mailed St?fane 
>>>>about it) - there have been many improvements in terms of UI, and 
>>>>regorganize the content. But I won't have much time for it before the 
>>>>end of the week.
>>>>   
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>So is anything happening on this front?
>>>
>>>Cheers,
>>>mwh
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>we need zope2.9 to upgrade to CPS3.4 for the new www.europython.org, and 
>>a new instance (e.g. ep2005.europython.org) to archive the current site.
>>
>>can someone at amaze.nl do the zope2.9 / DNS setup?
>>
>>    
>>
>
>Hi,
>
>I no longer work for / am affiliated with Amaze, so I can't help you
>anymore with your hosting questions, unfortunately.
>
>Please contact support at amaze.nl for support questions.
>
>Regards (and still hope to see you all at EP2006 ;)
>
>	Ivo
>
>  
>


OK, thanks Ivo, I've sent an email to support at amaze.nl but haven't 
received a reply yet.

what can be done is that I set up a test site on one of our servers so 
that content contributors can start working on the new EP2006 site's 
content. And when the server is ready at amaze.nl we do the switch.

regards /JM