[EuroPython] #europython minutes 23rd January 2006

[holger krekel]

On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 18:44 +0100, Paul Everitt wrote:
> On Jan 23, 2006, at 6:19 PM, holger krekel wrote:
> 
> > * Discussion about "Zope" track
> >
> >   Paul suggests to go for a "Web Frameworks Track" instead
> >   of limiting it to Zope.  He thinks that this should
> >   help to get more cross-pollination going within the
> >   python web framework communities.  There would likely
> >   be a quota on Zope talks then.  The ideas were welcomed
> >   by the attendees and will likely be followed up
> >   on the mailing list and on the upcoming track chair
> >   meeting.
> 
> To add some more background on this point, Zope would like to be less  
> of an island in the Python community.  I think Zope has much to  
> offer, especially in Zope 3, where interesting parts can be used in  
> isolation.  I also think Zope has lots to gain from Python and other  
> Python web frameworks.  There's tons of exciting stuff going on in  
> the Python web frameworks space.
> 
> Finally, I think Python itself is facing strong competition in Python  
> web frameworks.  We (the Python web frameworks) should recognize this  
> and work together more to tell a better story.

As you know this sounds good to me.  Let me add that i think that
it would be nice to reach outside the Python Web Frameworks 
development worlds - not so much thinking about Ruby on Rails 
but about Seaside (http://seaside.st) and possibly other approaches 
that leverage language features not existing in Python.  Inviting
people from those communities (or having a "PyPy possibilities workshop"
within the web track for that matter) may help to divert some 
"island" or competition thinking within Python webframework land :) 

cheers, 

    holger