From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Wed Mar 1 01:19:23 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 01:19:23 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] website In-Reply-To: <2m7j7h7s9q.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2mfyme8dx5.fsf@starship.python.net> <43F9C181.4010107@ita.chalmers.se> <2m7j7h7s9q.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <4404E88B.2050700@ita.chalmers.se> Michael Hudson wrote: >Jean-Marc Orliaguet writes: > > > >>Hi, Michael, >> >>it is possible to update the existing site to CPS3.4 (I mailed St?fane >>about it) - there have been many improvements in terms of UI, and >>regorganize the content. But I won't have much time for it before the >>end of the week. >> >> > >So is anything happening on this front? > >Cheers, >mwh > > OK, here is the new site: http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/ep2006/ it's just been upgraded to CPS3.4, with some very minor changes on the appearance of the external site, simpler navigation menu, some more work needs to be done. you can log in at: http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/ep2006/login_form the existing documents specific to G?teborg can be removed, but I guess that the current navigation structure can be kept more or less as it is. Regards /JM From lac at strakt.com Sat Mar 4 18:59:21 2006 From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton) Date: Sat, 04 Mar 2006 18:59:21 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Overheard by Evelyn Mitchell at PyCon Message-ID: <200603041759.k24HxLXT016888@theraft.strakt.com> ------- Forwarded Message One of the other comments I heard about the Tutorials, Conference then Sprints format is that it allows people to go from relative novices, through gaining a lot of exposure to a variety of Python projects, to having the opportunity to apply some of their newfound knowledge on a real project. That's a powerful learning path, and I believe should be encouraged. - -- Regards, tummy.com, ltd Evelyn Mitchell Linux Consulting since 1995 efm at tummy.com Senior System and Network Administrators http://www.tummy.com/ _______________________________________________ Pycon-organizers mailing list Pycon-organizers at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/pycon-organizers ------- End of Forwarded Message Another + for having tutorials. Laura From Felix.Wiemann at ososo.de Mon Mar 6 21:38:53 2006 From: Felix.Wiemann at ososo.de (Felix Wiemann) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:38:53 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2006 Message-ID: <20060306213853.135465fb.Felix.Wiemann@ososo.de> Hi! Maybe you should make clear on the europython.org front page that most (or all?) of the web site is still about Europython 2005, not 2006. May I suggest you move all contents to europython.org/2005 and put the contents for 2006 to europython.org/2006? This way things won't get confused. Regards, Felix Wiemann -- Felix Wiemann -- http://www.ososo.de/ From mwh at python.net Tue Mar 7 10:53:14 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 09:53:14 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2006 In-Reply-To: <20060306213853.135465fb.Felix.Wiemann@ososo.de> (Felix Wiemann's message of "Mon, 6 Mar 2006 21:38:53 +0100") References: <20060306213853.135465fb.Felix.Wiemann@ososo.de> Message-ID: <2m3bhuwph1.fsf@starship.python.net> Felix Wiemann writes: > Hi! > > Maybe you should make clear on the europython.org front page that most > (or all?) of the web site is still about Europython 2005, not 2006. > > May I suggest you move all contents to europython.org/2005 and put the > contents for 2006 to europython.org/2006? This way things won't get > confused. It's being worked on, I think, in our Copious Free Time. Do you know anything about CPS? :) Cheers, mwh -- Not only does the English Language borrow words from other languages, it sometimes chases them down dark alleys, hits them over the head, and goes through their pockets. -- Eddy Peters From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Tue Mar 7 11:04:57 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:04:57 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2006 In-Reply-To: <2m3bhuwph1.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <20060306213853.135465fb.Felix.Wiemann@ososo.de> <2m3bhuwph1.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <440D5AC9.3000807@ita.chalmers.se> Michael Hudson wrote: >Felix Wiemann writes: > > > >>Hi! >> >>Maybe you should make clear on the europython.org front page that most >>(or all?) of the web site is still about Europython 2005, not 2006. >> >>May I suggest you move all contents to europython.org/2005 and put the >>contents for 2006 to europython.org/2006? This way things won't get >>confused. >> >> > >It's being worked on, I think, in our Copious Free Time. Do you know >anything about CPS? :) > >Cheers, >mwh > > > It should go pretty fast if the content of the 2006 site is ready, is it?: one should start with updating the test site (and switch to it afterwards, when it's ready): http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/ep2006/ http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/ep2006/login_form (anyone needs an account who didn't have one from last year please contact me) in the meantime I can add a message on the 2005 site saying that this is from last year's conference and that the new site is being worked on? cheers /JM From mwh at python.net Sat Mar 11 19:03:03 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 18:03:03 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2006 In-Reply-To: <440D5AC9.3000807@ita.chalmers.se> (Jean-Marc Orliaguet's message of "Tue, 07 Mar 2006 11:04:57 +0100") References: <20060306213853.135465fb.Felix.Wiemann@ososo.de> <2m3bhuwph1.fsf@starship.python.net> <440D5AC9.3000807@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <2my7zg6eqw.fsf@starship.python.net> Jean-Marc Orliaguet writes: > Michael Hudson wrote: > >>Felix Wiemann writes: >> >> >> >>>Hi! >>> >>>Maybe you should make clear on the europython.org front page that most >>>(or all?) of the web site is still about Europython 2005, not 2006. >>> >>>May I suggest you move all contents to europython.org/2005 and put the >>>contents for 2006 to europython.org/2006? This way things won't get >>>confused. >>> >>> >> >>It's being worked on, I think, in our Copious Free Time. Do you know >>anything about CPS? :) >> >>Cheers, >>mwh >> >> >> > > It should go pretty fast if the content of the 2006 site is ready, is it?: Sadly, not really. Illness and extreme busy-ness have rather got in the way. I hope to work on it next week. > one should start with updating the test site (and switch to it > afterwards, when it's ready): > http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/ep2006/ > http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/ep2006/login_form > > (anyone needs an account who didn't have one from last year please > contact me) Is there a "10 minute users guide to CPS" somewhere? > in the meantime I can add a message on the 2005 site saying that this is > from last year's conference and that the new site is being worked on? A very good idea. Cheers, mwh -- ... so the notion that it is meaningful to pass pointers to memory objects into which any random function may write random values without having a clue where they point, has _not_ been debunked as the sheer idiocy it really is. -- Erik Naggum, comp.lang.lisp From ja at nuxeo.com Sat Mar 11 20:10:38 2006 From: ja at nuxeo.com (Julien Anguenot) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:10:38 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2006 In-Reply-To: <2my7zg6eqw.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <20060306213853.135465fb.Felix.Wiemann@ososo.de> <2m3bhuwph1.fsf@starship.python.net> <440D5AC9.3000807@ita.chalmers.se> <2my7zg6eqw.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <441320AE.8070708@nuxeo.com> Michael Hudson wrote: [...] > Is there a "10 minute users guide to CPS" somewhere? You may want to check out this document : http://www.cps-project.org/sections/documentation/users/cps-user-guide-html/ Cheers, J. -- Julien Anguenot | Nuxeo R&D (Paris, France) CPS Platform : http://www.cps-project.org Zope3 / ECM : http://www.z3lab.org mail: anguenot at nuxeo.com; tel: +33 (0) 6 72 57 57 66 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Lyrics applied to programming & application design: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 07:37:01 2006 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:37:01 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] We need list of High Pot Attendees Message-ID: <7be3f35d0603132237y5d1598e9t10d007ffc1b227ca@mail.gmail.com> The Martellibot wrote: """ (basically, this means that by attending I can hope to help *HIRE* somebody -- otherwise, I'm fighting uphill!-). """ so we definitely need a list of High Potential Attendees to EuroPython in CERN. Guess similiar counts for the BDFL. Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - When I visit a mosque, I show my respect by taking off my shoes. I follow the customs, just as I do in a church, synagogue or other holy place. 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060314/f5ed8de7/attachment.htm From mwh at python.net Tue Mar 14 10:07:29 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:07:29 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] We need list of High Pot Attendees In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0603132237y5d1598e9t10d007ffc1b227ca@mail.gmail.com> (Harald Armin Massa's message of "Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:37:01 +0100") References: <7be3f35d0603132237y5d1598e9t10d007ffc1b227ca@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2mbqw95r8u.fsf@starship.python.net> (from the subject line, I thought this was going to be online poker spam) "Harald Armin Massa" writes: > The Martellibot wrote: > > """ > (basically, this means > that by attending I can hope to help *HIRE* somebody -- otherwise, > I'm fighting uphill!-). > """ > so we definitely need a list of High Potential Attendees to EuroPython in > CERN. Guess similiar counts for the BDFL. Well, you can tell him the place will be crawling with PyPyers wondering what they are going to do after Dec 1 when the funding runs out if you like... On another note, it doesn't seem that wise to make it a Google hiring fair because then *everyone else's* employers might be reluctant to give them the week off :) Cheers, mwh -- AND NOW FOR A MESSAGE FROM OUR SPONSOR Are you WEIRD? Are you MADE OF INTERNET? Use Twisted! Or die. http://www.twistedmatrix.com/ From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Tue Mar 14 10:13:17 2006 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:13:17 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] We need list of High Pot Attendees In-Reply-To: <2mbqw95r8u.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <7be3f35d0603132237y5d1598e9t10d007ffc1b227ca@mail.gmail.com> <2mbqw95r8u.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0603140113w100ebd3m490b26b401ec8638@mail.gmail.com> Michael, > (from the subject line, I thought this was going to be online poker > spam) that's why you should use spambayes or gmail for spamfiltering :))) > >Well, you can tell him the place will be crawling with PyPyers > >wondering what they are going to do after Dec 1 when the funding >runs > out if you like... I hope you saw my tongue-in-cheek when writing this .... :) >On another note, it doesn't seem that wise to make it a Google hiring >fair because then *everyone else's* employers might be reluctant to >give them the week off :) Similiar thoughts came to me, and led to my talk proposal: Python is faster then assembler - an economists view on developing in Python Be surprised, be mesmerized @ Europython 2006! Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - When I visit a mosque, I show my respect by taking off my shoes. I follow the customs, just as I do in a church, synagogue or other holy place. But if a believer demands that I, as a nonbeliever, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect, but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060314/c3afb838/attachment.htm From paul at boddie.org.uk Tue Mar 14 14:46:02 2006 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:46:02 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Honesty in Advertising Message-ID: <200603141446.02716.paul@boddie.org.uk> Hello, I saw just now that the issue of proprietary vs. open source development (and whether the things being presented are available for public or even source-level perusal or not) had come up with respect to at least one of the talks at PyCon [1], and after various similar comments about at least one EuroPython talk last year, I was wondering if there should be some kind of stipulation that EuroPython talks should advertise the nature of the solutions being presented. Various people noted, after one of the EuroPython talks, that to sit through 30 minutes of what ultimately proved to be advertising virtually amounted to dishonesty on the part of the presenter. If getting involved in some interesting technology is a priority for attendees (and this is a community conference after all) then some more openness about such things is necessary, in my opinion. Another thing that came to mind was the availability of papers and presentations: given that the conferences are a good way of presenting the state of the community, should more be done to insist that presenters make their materials available to those not attending the conference, and should the availability of materials be more widely promoted? There have been several occasions where I've referred people to EuroPython talks, mostly because those people have been promoting some in-progress solution similar to something more complete that was previously presented at EuroPython. Has anyone any thoughts about improving such matters in advance of this year's conference? Paul [1] http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyCon2006/Feedback From mwh at python.net Thu Mar 16 20:35:10 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 19:35:10 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2006 In-Reply-To: <441320AE.8070708@nuxeo.com> (Julien Anguenot's message of "Sat, 11 Mar 2006 20:10:38 +0100") References: <20060306213853.135465fb.Felix.Wiemann@ososo.de> <2m3bhuwph1.fsf@starship.python.net> <440D5AC9.3000807@ita.chalmers.se> <2my7zg6eqw.fsf@starship.python.net> <441320AE.8070708@nuxeo.com> Message-ID: <2mfyli2nf5.fsf@starship.python.net> Julien Anguenot writes: > Michael Hudson wrote: > [...] >> Is there a "10 minute users guide to CPS" somewhere? > > You may want to check out this document : > > http://www.cps-project.org/sections/documentation/users/cps-user-guide-html/ That's hardly a 10 minute guide :) Can I make a vague appointment to have someone somewhere on IRC babysit me through making some simple changes to the site sometime soon? I'll only be online for a while in the morning tomorrow but next week should be back to my usual 9-5 Mon-Fri onlineness... I've just spent at least an hour trying to divine how to edit the mention of Gtbg out of the "WHY?" box on http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/ep2006/ and am feeling rather frustrated. Cheers, mwh -- In that case I suggest that to get the correct image you look at the screen from inside the monitor whilst standing on your head. -- James Bonfield, http://www.ioccc.org/2000/rince.hint From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Thu Mar 16 20:44:45 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:44:45 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2006 In-Reply-To: <2mfyli2nf5.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <20060306213853.135465fb.Felix.Wiemann@ososo.de> <2m3bhuwph1.fsf@starship.python.net> <440D5AC9.3000807@ita.chalmers.se> <2my7zg6eqw.fsf@starship.python.net> <441320AE.8070708@nuxeo.com> <2mfyli2nf5.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <4419C02D.70701@ita.chalmers.se> Michael Hudson wrote: >Julien Anguenot writes: > > > >>Michael Hudson wrote: >>[...] >> >> >>>Is there a "10 minute users guide to CPS" somewhere? >>> >>> >>You may want to check out this document : >> >>http://www.cps-project.org/sections/documentation/users/cps-user-guide-html/ >> >> > >That's hardly a 10 minute guide :) > >Can I make a vague appointment to have someone somewhere on IRC >babysit me through making some simple changes to the site sometime >soon? I'll only be online for a while in the morning tomorrow but >next week should be back to my usual 9-5 Mon-Fri onlineness... > >I've just spent at least an hour trying to divine how to edit the >mention of Gtbg out of the "WHY?" box on >http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/ep2006/ and am feeling rather >frustrated. > > that's unfortunate, because it doesn't take more than 30 seconds. http://www.medic.chalmers.se/~jmo/ep2006/geneva.html why not focus instead on writing the content / the information and send it to either me or Dario and we put it online ? we can do a chat session next week too. is there any content ready yet? cheers /JM From ja at nuxeo.com Thu Mar 16 21:24:22 2006 From: ja at nuxeo.com (Julien Anguenot) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:24:22 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2006 In-Reply-To: <2mfyli2nf5.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <20060306213853.135465fb.Felix.Wiemann@ososo.de> <2m3bhuwph1.fsf@starship.python.net> <440D5AC9.3000807@ita.chalmers.se> <2my7zg6eqw.fsf@starship.python.net> <441320AE.8070708@nuxeo.com> <2mfyli2nf5.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <4419C976.5080502@nuxeo.com> Michael Hudson wrote: > Julien Anguenot writes: > >> Michael Hudson wrote: >> [...] >>> Is there a "10 minute users guide to CPS" somewhere? >> You may want to check out this document : >> >> http://www.cps-project.org/sections/documentation/users/cps-user-guide-html/ > > That's hardly a 10 minute guide :) As well, you could check out the screencasts over there : http://www.nuxeo.com/screencasts/cps-3.4/index.html [...] J. -- Julien Anguenot | Nuxeo R&D (Paris, France) CPS Platform : http://www.cps-project.org Zope3 / ECM : http://www.z3lab.org mail: anguenot at nuxeo.com; tel: +33 (0) 6 72 57 57 66 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'll only be online for a while in the morning tomorrow but >> next week should be back to my usual 9-5 Mon-Fri onlineness... >> >> I've just spent at least an hour trying to divine how to edit the >> mention of Gtbg out of the "WHY?" box on >> http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/ep2006/ and am feeling rather >> frustrated. >> > > that's unfortunate, because it doesn't take more than 30 seconds. > http://www.medic.chalmers.se/~jmo/ep2006/geneva.htm As I was beginning to suspect by the end of my hour, I don't think I have the permissions to have done that. Thanks though! > why not focus instead on writing the content / the information and > send it to either me or Dario and we put it online ? we can do a > chat session next week too. > > is there any content ready yet? Well, there's this: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2006/ CallForProposals And there's lots of stuff that could be removed and placeholdered like the "how to get around the G?teborg area". Cheers, mwh From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Thu Mar 16 21:49:27 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:49:27 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2006 In-Reply-To: References: <20060306213853.135465fb.Felix.Wiemann@ososo.de> <2m3bhuwph1.fsf@starship.python.net> <440D5AC9.3000807@ita.chalmers.se> <2my7zg6eqw.fsf@starship.python.net> <441320AE.8070708@nuxeo.com> <2mfyli2nf5.fsf@starship.python.net> <4419C02D.70701@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <4419CF57.1040404@ita.chalmers.se> Michael Hudson wrote: > > As I was beginning to suspect by the end of my hour, I don't think I > have the permissions to have done that. Thanks though! > OK, you are manager now, so it should work. >> why not focus instead on writing the content / the information and >> send it to either me or Dario and we put it online ? we can do a >> chat session next week too. >> >> is there any content ready yet? > > > Well, there's this: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2006/ > CallForProposals > > And there's lots of stuff that could be removed and placeholdered > like the "how to get around the G?teborg area". > > Cheers, > mwh OK, I've done some cleaning. removed reference to G?teborg, keep some of the pages that will surely be reused, with some adjustments. who has the information anyway? cheers /JM From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Thu Mar 16 22:23:26 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 22:23:26 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython site 2006 In-Reply-To: References: <4402D7C7.4010106@chalmers.se> Message-ID: <4419D74E.5040706@ita.chalmers.se> Maurice Nonnekes wrote: > Hey Jean-Marc, > > I've setup a new Zope 2.9.1 instance in "/home/e/europy/zope/ > europy291/", which can be accessed using > > http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/manage > > using the 'europy' login and matching password (the same you use for > ssh/sftp). I assume you want me to change the DNS and Apache > settings, once you have setup the new instance to your liking, so > I'll wait with that until you tell me to switch. If you have any > questions or comments, feel free to mail me. > > > Kind regards, > --Maurice Hi! I think you can now switch the sites so that www.europython.org points at http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/ep2006/ and ep2005.europython.org points at the ep2005 site (currently www.europython.org). thank you /JM From mwh at python.net Thu Mar 16 22:47:25 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:47:25 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython 2006 In-Reply-To: <4419CF57.1040404@ita.chalmers.se> References: <20060306213853.135465fb.Felix.Wiemann@ososo.de> <2m3bhuwph1.fsf@starship.python.net> <440D5AC9.3000807@ita.chalmers.se> <2my7zg6eqw.fsf@starship.python.net> <441320AE.8070708@nuxeo.com> <2mfyli2nf5.fsf@starship.python.net> <4419C02D.70701@ita.chalmers.se> <4419CF57.1040404@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <8F8C898C-BF69-40A9-ACE4-9D03E863FE9E@python.net> On 16 Mar 2006, at 20:49, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: > Michael Hudson wrote: > >> >> As I was beginning to suspect by the end of my hour, I don't think >> I have the permissions to have done that. Thanks though! >> > > OK, you are manager now, so it should work. Hurrah. It really shouldn't have taken so long for the "something seems bizarrely impossible" -> "it's a permissions problem" to have occurred to me. Obviously haven't used zope for a while... Thank you for the fast response! >>> why not focus instead on writing the content / the information >>> and send it to either me or Dario and we put it online ? we can >>> do a chat session next week too. >>> >>> is there any content ready yet? >> >> >> Well, there's this: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2006/ >> CallForProposals >> >> And there's lots of stuff that could be removed and placeholdered >> like the "how to get around the G?teborg area". >> >> Cheers, >> mwh > > > OK, I've done some cleaning. removed reference to G?teborg, keep > some of the pages that will surely be reused, with some adjustments. Precisely. Pages with missing info seem better than pages with flat out out-of-date info. > who has the information anyway? Well, Benedikt, I guess. CERN must have web pages describing how to get there, etc, so we probably don't have to write so much content ourselves this year, just point to it. Cheers, mwh From john at clocksoft.com Fri Mar 17 11:23:22 2006 From: john at clocksoft.com (John Pinner) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 10:23:22 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] Honesty in Advertising In-Reply-To: <200603141446.02716.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <200603141446.02716.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <441A8E1A.4030803@clocksoft.com> Hello Paul, Food for thought here. Paul Boddie wrote: > Hello, > > I saw just now that the issue of proprietary vs. open source > development (and whether the things being presented are available for > public or even source-level perusal or not) had come up with respect > to at least one of the talks at PyCon [1], and after various similar > comments about at least one EuroPython talk last year, I was > wondering if there should be some kind of stipulation that EuroPython > talks should advertise the nature of the solutions being presented. > Various people noted, after one of the EuroPython talks, that to sit > through 30 minutes of what ultimately proved to be advertising > virtually amounted to dishonesty on the part of the presenter. If > getting involved in some interesting technology is a priority for > attendees (and this is a community conference after all) then some > more openness about such things is necessary, in my opinion. I totally agree and suggest that in the call for papers submission form we have a checkbox for open source, and give priority to those products/projects which are so. > Another thing that came to mind was the availability of papers and > presentations: given that the conferences are a good way of > presenting the state of the community, should more be done to insist > that presenters make their materials available to those not attending > the conference, and should the availability of materials be more > widely promoted? There have been several occasions where I've > referred people to EuroPython talks, mostly because those people have > been promoting some in-progress solution similar to something more > complete that was previously presented at EuroPython. In principle, they should be on the site, but I for one have been delinquent in making them available due to: 1) Lack of time on my part. 2) The obscurity (to me, maybe I'm thick) of how to publish the papers on the various sites we've had. > Has anyone any thoughts about improving such matters in advance of > this year's conference? > Regards, John -- From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Fri Mar 17 11:55:45 2006 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:55:45 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Honesty in Advertising In-Reply-To: <441A8E1A.4030803@clocksoft.com> References: <200603141446.02716.paul@boddie.org.uk> <441A8E1A.4030803@clocksoft.com> Message-ID: <20060317105545.GF31462@crater.logilab.fr> On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 10:23:22AM +0000, John Pinner wrote: > > Has anyone any thoughts about improving such matters in advance of > > this year's conference? Make sure the presentations are available *before*?the conference ? -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 12:14:47 2006 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:14:47 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Honesty in Advertising In-Reply-To: <20060317105545.GF31462@crater.logilab.fr> References: <200603141446.02716.paul@boddie.org.uk> <441A8E1A.4030803@clocksoft.com> <20060317105545.GF31462@crater.logilab.fr> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0603170314v2307a8b5p55063dfa13e0ee42@mail.gmail.com> Dear fellow Epys, > > Has anyone any thoughts about improving such matters in advance of > > > this year's conference? > > Make sure the presentations are available *before*the conference ? > How can we put this in practice? How do we sanction people for not submitting presentations before? I for one am not willing to submit presentations before. I want my talks to be holistic works of art; 30% of the presentation material being build in response to the reactions of the audience while presenting, maybe even drawn on overhead or painted on my body; and I do not want to give "sneak previews" so that the jokes are discussed before I make them. I support the "state which kind of software you are talking about"; especially something like: a) this is a presentation about Open Source b) this is a presentation about using Python to do something commercially successfull c) this is a presentation to make you use something commercially you have to buy, which should make you happy Best wishes Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Registered users must have an affiliation with an NSPIRES organization for their proposals to be submitted to NASA. - When an employer becomes covered under one or more of the retirement systems administered by KPERS. Prospective employers must complete an application process to affiliate with KPERS. - Process that a new extension must complete before being officially recognized as a chapter. so, yes, I want affiliation, that's why I am with Europython, but what should I enter? Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Ciao Benedikt On Mar 17, 2006, at 2:01 PM, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > Hello Epys, > > on the abstract submisison form there is > > - affiliation > > as obligatory information. > > As you know I am no scientist, so I asked DA BIG GOOGLE > define:affiliation what it may be, and DA BIG GOOGLE told me: > > - a social drive to be associated with others in interdependent > relationships, involving using others for help or support without > making them responsible for problems. > > - An affiliation is a business relationship between an NSPIRES > registered user and an organization's Sponsored Research Office > (SRO). An affiliation request by an NSPIRES user to an > organization's SRO must be confirmed by the organization. > Registered users must have an affiliation with an NSPIRES > organization for their proposals to be submitted to NASA. > > - When an employer becomes covered under one or more of the > retirement systems administered by KPERS. Prospective employers > must complete an application process to affiliate with KPERS. > > - Process that a new extension must complete before being > officially recognized as a chapter. > > > so, yes, I want affiliation, that's why I am with Europython, but > what should I enter? > > > Harald > > > -- > GHUM Harald Massa > persuadere et programmare > Harald Armin Massa > Reinsburgstra?e 202b > 70197 Stuttgart > 0173/9409607 > - > PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060317/65e7f076/attachment.html From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Fri Mar 17 14:34:10 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:34:10 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage Message-ID: <92EE6531-6F82-45C4-82A4-A6C3B17BF70F@cern.ch> Hi, where can I get an account to the new europython page? Ciao Benedikt From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Fri Mar 17 14:50:37 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:50:37 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster Message-ID: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> Hi, Vincent Maton designed a great poster for the epc2006. You can have a look at the "final" version here: http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/poster_A4.pdf Ciao Benedikt From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Fri Mar 17 14:42:27 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:42:27 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> Message-ID: <441ABCC3.6080100@ita.chalmers.se> Benedikt Hegner wrote: >Hi, > >Vincent Maton designed a great poster for the epc2006. >You can have a look at the "final" version here: >http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/poster_A4.pdf > >Ciao >Benedikt >_ > looks good. that's some artwork that can be used to put on the front page somewhere. /JM From maurice at amaze.nl Fri Mar 17 14:29:19 2006 From: maurice at amaze.nl (Maurice Nonnekes) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:29:19 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython site 2006 In-Reply-To: <4419D74E.5040706@ita.chalmers.se> References: <4402D7C7.4010106@chalmers.se> <4419D74E.5040706@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <5889AF4F-833E-4F21-86EA-A3B5BD47675A@amaze.nl> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 Hey Jean-Marc, The switch has been made and www.europython.org shows the new site. Please note that ep2005.europython.org doesn't seem to resolve yet. Regards, --Maurice On Mar 16, 2006, at 10:23 PM, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote: > Maurice Nonnekes wrote: > >> Hey Jean-Marc, >> >> I've setup a new Zope 2.9.1 instance in "/home/e/europy/zope/ >> europy291/", which can be accessed using >> >> http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/manage >> >> using the 'europy' login and matching password (the same you use >> for ssh/sftp). I assume you want me to change the DNS and Apache >> settings, once you have setup the new instance to your liking, so >> I'll wait with that until you tell me to switch. If you have any >> questions or comments, feel free to mail me. >> >> >> Kind regards, >> --Maurice > > > > Hi! > > I think you can now switch the sites so that www.europython.org > points at http://biostabil.amaze.nl:8054/ep2006/ and > ep2005.europython.org points at the ep2005 site (currently > www.europython.org). > > thank you /JM -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Desktop 9.0.5 (Build 5050) iQEVAwUBRBq5sWcA3crIEKsBAQgYcgf9EnDibngUvq8Sp0PGWAb1I/F76ag+3fSJ KBhfjE6uJ1aaxBXEmOWR8AbSdGz96dP2n4jwou9c5t5aB4bXrFACG9yNOSrOpU+P oXtPgigZ9ufgITH1jK8tS+sIJDdEnh0ysUuZfgxZ8yCbcJyPzIpP5xgjiylGdmw1 a/JqwxtqJaIybFVCpKV/lheb1P2IL/RiWpT8TS0BGeyUeFymmXR2yZGVltGBwJUa ZqRXFSW1oggF+12CZdwUbkhegFqDORDyk8UrSJvavnT+Wnic2AXqn7IUj6JEQJfj PqzcYjGacrpr3xD7v6gOfUuxqNauPnwyflpXvymjfVAT0k5w0zKzYQ== =g/DF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 15:03:11 2006 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:03:11 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0603170603j526ea00amff103a7f0ecf61ac@mail.gmail.com> That poster looks really good. What is that golden bubble the people are dancing around? Does CERN store its antimatter there? Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060317/9157321c/attachment.htm From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Fri Mar 17 15:07:35 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:07:35 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0603170603j526ea00amff103a7f0ecf61ac@mail.gmail.com> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <7be3f35d0603170603j526ea00amff103a7f0ecf61ac@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0B7976EE-2C56-46B7-9E76-AEDD6BD4F5AE@cern.ch> > That poster looks really good. What is that golden bubble the > people are dancing around? Does CERN store its antimatter there? No that's the hangar for our X-33 aircraft. ;-) It is the globe of innovation, our new PR building: http:// public.web.cern.ch/public/Content/Chapters/Spotlight/SpotlightGlobe- en.html Ciao Benedikt From reinoud.v at n.leeuwen.net Fri Mar 17 15:08:44 2006 From: reinoud.v at n.leeuwen.net (Reinoud van Leeuwen) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:08:44 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> Message-ID: <20060317140844.GV77583@spoetnik.xs4all.nl> On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:50:37PM +0100, Benedikt Hegner wrote: > Hi, > > Vincent Maton designed a great poster for the epc2006. > You can have a look at the "final" version here: > http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/poster_A4.pdf Is it preferable that there is a personal contact mentioned before the more general one? -- __________________________________________________ "Nothing is as subjective as reality" Reinoud van Leeuwen reinoud.v at n.leeuwen.net http://www.xs4all.nl/~reinoud __________________________________________________ From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Fri Mar 17 15:12:04 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:12:04 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <20060317140844.GV77583@spoetnik.xs4all.nl> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <20060317140844.GV77583@spoetnik.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: On Mar 17, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:50:37PM +0100, Benedikt Hegner wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Vincent Maton designed a great poster for the epc2006. >> You can have a look at the "final" version here: >> http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/poster_A4.pdf > > Is it preferable that there is a personal contact mentioned before the > more general one? That's a good point. Maybe this should be changed. Thanks, Benedikt From reinoud.v at n.leeuwen.net Fri Mar 17 15:22:35 2006 From: reinoud.v at n.leeuwen.net (Reinoud van Leeuwen) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:22:35 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <20060317140844.GV77583@spoetnik.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <20060317142234.GW77583@spoetnik.xs4all.nl> On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 03:12:04PM +0100, Benedikt Hegner wrote: > On Mar 17, 2006, at 3:08 PM, Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote: > > > On Fri, Mar 17, 2006 at 02:50:37PM +0100, Benedikt Hegner wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Vincent Maton designed a great poster for the epc2006. > >> You can have a look at the "final" version here: > >> http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/poster_A4.pdf > > > > Is it preferable that there is a personal contact mentioned before the > > more general one? > That's a good point. Maybe this should be changed. Oh and one other tip: use a tracker to receive all such emails. I've organised a 2500+ people event last year and we would not have survived without it. (we used RT3 which is Perl based. It has a webinterface, a mail interface and a commandline interface. Especially the ability to store FAQ answers in the database and to be able to resolve a group of tickets at once are crucial features. I don't know whether there is a python or zope based tracker that has similar ones) -- __________________________________________________ "Nothing is as subjective as reality" Reinoud van Leeuwen reinoud.v at n.leeuwen.net http://www.xs4all.nl/~reinoud __________________________________________________ From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Fri Mar 17 15:08:55 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:08:55 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> Message-ID: <441AC2F7.7080608@ita.chalmers.se> Benedikt Hegner wrote: >Hi, > >Vincent Maton designed a great poster for the epc2006. >You can have a look at the "final" version here: >http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/poster_A4.pdf > >Ciao >Benedikt > I've used the artwork on the site (http://www.europython.org) to update the EP logo and make the conference dates / location clearer the red color (from the Swiss flag) adds some depth to it too. That looks really good cheers /JM From ms at cerenity.org Fri Mar 17 15:27:09 2006 From: ms at cerenity.org (Michael Sparks) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:27:09 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] Abstract submission form In-Reply-To: <0F028A78-A09F-4AA7-98B2-A01D4E7B90F5@cern.ch> References: <7be3f35d0603170501i9fe3d64v63688b8360a3bb6c@mail.gmail.com> <0F028A78-A09F-4AA7-98B2-A01D4E7B90F5@cern.ch> Message-ID: <200603171427.09694.ms@cerenity.org> On Friday 17 March 2006 13:15, Benedikt Hegner wrote: ... > affiliation means membership in an organization (university, > institute) or company. It should be in every dictionary. > But you are right - maybe it's better to change it. I think one thing worth remembering is that not everyone attending will be from an organisation or company. At least not in the context of Europython. Regards, Michael. From mwh at python.net Fri Mar 17 16:39:18 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:39:18 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> (Benedikt Hegner's message of "Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:50:37 +0100") References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> Message-ID: <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> Benedikt Hegner writes: > Hi, > > Vincent Maton designed a great poster for the epc2006. > You can have a look at the "final" version here: > http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/poster_A4.pdf Very nice. I have a slightly tangential question: is it EuroPython or Europython? I've always tended to the former, but the poster and a few places on the website say the latter. Anyone have any strong opinions? Cheers, mwh -- > so python will fork if activestate starts polluting it? I find it more relevant to speculate on whether Python would fork if the merpeople start invading our cities riding on the backs of giant king crabs. -- Brian Quinlan, comp.lang.python From mwh at python.net Fri Mar 17 16:47:00 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:47:00 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] Please add Lightning Talks as categorie to the Abstract submissions In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0603170516t3cd5717dm405a3553a7bd8748@mail.gmail.com> (Harald Armin Massa's message of "Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:16:04 +0100") References: <7be3f35d0603170516t3cd5717dm405a3553a7bd8748@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2mu09x13bf.fsf@starship.python.net> "Harald Armin Massa" writes: > Yeah, I know, we will do that on site as we did the years before. Did you get volunteered to be track chair? I forget. > But if we can get ligthning talks submitted NOW, it is even better, isn't > it? Done! Cheers, mwh -- I think if we have the choice, I'd rather we didn't explicitly put flaws in the reST syntax for the sole purpose of not insulting the almighty. -- /will on the doc-sig From mwh at python.net Fri Mar 17 16:53:26 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:53:26 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage In-Reply-To: <92EE6531-6F82-45C4-82A4-A6C3B17BF70F@cern.ch> (Benedikt Hegner's message of "Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:34:10 +0100") References: <92EE6531-6F82-45C4-82A4-A6C3B17BF70F@cern.ch> Message-ID: <2mpskl130p.fsf@starship.python.net> Benedikt Hegner writes: > Hi, > > where can I get an account to the new europython page? It's probably best to ask Jean-Marc to set you up; I think I've found the right bit to twiddle but I'm not completely sure. BTW, you already appear to _have_ an account... I presume your asking for the rights to edit things? Cheers, mwh -- I think if we have the choice, I'd rather we didn't explicitly put flaws in the reST syntax for the sole purpose of not insulting the almighty. -- /will on the doc-sig From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Fri Mar 17 16:56:26 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:56:26 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage In-Reply-To: <2mpskl130p.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <92EE6531-6F82-45C4-82A4-A6C3B17BF70F@cern.ch> <2mpskl130p.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <37909988-6291-40B6-85CB-3D04A959770A@cern.ch> > Benedikt Hegner writes: > >> Hi, >> >> where can I get an account to the new europython page? > > It's probably best to ask Jean-Marc to set you up; I think I've found > the right bit to twiddle but I'm not completely sure. > > BTW, you already appear to _have_ an account... I presume your asking > for the rights to edit things? I've already got an answer. :-) Ciao Benedikt From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Fri Mar 17 17:20:39 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:20:39 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage layout Message-ID: Whoever changed the layout of the page - thanks! Is it possible to change the background color as well? The picture in a slightly better quality: http://doc.cern.ch//archive/ electronic/cern/others/PHO/photo-bul//bul-pho-2005-032.jpg Ciao Benedikt From mwh at python.net Fri Mar 17 18:01:44 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:01:44 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage In-Reply-To: <37909988-6291-40B6-85CB-3D04A959770A@cern.ch> (Benedikt Hegner's message of "Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:56:26 +0100") References: <92EE6531-6F82-45C4-82A4-A6C3B17BF70F@cern.ch> <2mpskl130p.fsf@starship.python.net> <37909988-6291-40B6-85CB-3D04A959770A@cern.ch> Message-ID: <2mlkv90zuv.fsf@starship.python.net> Benedikt Hegner writes: >> Benedikt Hegner writes: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> where can I get an account to the new europython page? >> >> It's probably best to ask Jean-Marc to set you up; I think I've found >> the right bit to twiddle but I'm not completely sure. >> >> BTW, you already appear to _have_ an account... I presume your asking >> for the rights to edit things? > > I've already got an answer. :-) I found some more bits that were already twiddled and thought you probably had :) Cheers, mwh -- two more webmonkey days, and then I'm off to the USA * shapr hands a web-banana to itamar my god, the banana is full of ads -- from Twisted.Quotes From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Fri Mar 17 18:11:25 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:11:25 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage In-Reply-To: <2mlkv90zuv.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <92EE6531-6F82-45C4-82A4-A6C3B17BF70F@cern.ch> <2mpskl130p.fsf@starship.python.net> <37909988-6291-40B6-85CB-3D04A959770A@cern.ch> <2mlkv90zuv.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: > >>> Benedikt Hegner writes: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> where can I get an account to the new europython page? >>> >>> It's probably best to ask Jean-Marc to set you up; I think I've >>> found >>> the right bit to twiddle but I'm not completely sure. >>> >>> BTW, you already appear to _have_ an account... I presume your >>> asking >>> for the rights to edit things? >> >> I've already got an answer. :-) > > I found some more bits that were already twiddled and thought you > probably had :) > Yap, and it is a very strange interface... Ciao Benedikt From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Fri Mar 17 18:15:59 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:15:59 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage structure Message-ID: Hi, some comments on the page structure. We have in the menu bar - Registration - Location - Accomodation - Tracks & Talks - Events - Sprints & Wiki Isn't there something missing where we can put information about the "what who why"? (in addition to the boxes on the entry page) Where we can put information about EPC, CERN, comments from participants from the years before, press articles and so on... Ciao Benedikt From jacob at strakt.com Fri Mar 17 18:45:36 2006 From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:45:36 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> fredagen den 17 mars 2006 16.39 skrev Michael Hudson: > I have a slightly tangential question: is it EuroPython or Europython? > I've always tended to the former, but the poster and a few places on > the website say the latter. Anyone have any strong opinions? The form I have used consistently is Europython. I prefer it before the camelcase form for aesthetic reasons. Jacob From jacob at strakt.com Fri Mar 17 18:59:05 2006 From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:59:05 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Homage layout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200603171859.05652.jacob@strakt.com> To make the page look better balanced there are a couple of things that should be easy to do: - Make the "Site updates" box go as far down as the "Highlights" box does. The gap creates a visual dis-association between the upper part of the page and the lower part. - Do something about the empty space to the right of the WHAT-WHO-WHY boxes. Either shift them to be centered on the page or put something in the space. - The distance between the lower edge of the "Highlights" box and the upper edge of the WHAT-WHO-WHY should be the same as the distance between the lower edge of the toolbar and the upper edge of the "Site updates"- "Europython 2006" - "Search this site". Jacob From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Fri Mar 17 18:46:44 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:46:44 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage layout In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <441AF604.1080701@ita.chalmers.se> Benedikt Hegner wrote: >Whoever changed the layout of the page - thanks! >Is it possible to change the background color as well? > >The picture in a slightly better quality: http://doc.cern.ch//archive/ >electronic/cern/others/PHO/photo-bul//bul-pho-2005-032.jpg > >Ciao >Benedikt > > I've now changed the picture the resolution looks better /JM From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Fri Mar 17 19:16:04 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:16:04 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage layout In-Reply-To: <441AF604.1080701@ita.chalmers.se> References: <441AF604.1080701@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: > Benedikt Hegner wrote: > >> Whoever changed the layout of the page - thanks! >> Is it possible to change the background color as well? >> >> The picture in a slightly better quality: http://doc.cern.ch// >> archive/ electronic/cern/others/PHO/photo-bul//bul-pho-2005-032.jpg >> >> Ciao >> Benedikt >> > > I've now changed the picture the resolution looks better /JM Thanks Benedikt From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Fri Mar 17 19:12:06 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:12:06 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage structure In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <441AFBF6.3090804@ita.chalmers.se> Benedikt Hegner wrote: >Hi, > >some comments on the page structure. We have in the menu bar >- Registration >- Location >- Accomodation >- Tracks & Talks >- Events >- Sprints & Wiki > >Isn't there something missing where we can put information about the >"what who why"? (in addition to the boxes on the entry page) Where we >can put information about EPC, CERN, comments from participants from >the years before, press articles and so on... > >Ciao >Benedikt > > > "Tracks & Talks" and "Sprints & Wiki" could be merged. Location / accomodation too. feel free to change the structure, I simply copied the structure from last year, and it does not necessarily work best this year since a lot of information concerning registration / talks is already available on http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=44 also It feels weird to switch sites, maybe the location / hotels information could be placed www.europython.org ? currently it's somehow duplicated. there is also a third site involved (http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2006) - it is possible to put a wiki on www.europython.org. 3 sites for one conference is a lot.. BTW, the site now validates XHTML 1.0 strict ( http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.europython.org ) regards /JM From chris at simplistix.co.uk Fri Mar 17 19:08:56 2006 From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:08:56 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] Paranoid Questions from an Attendee/Speaker Message-ID: <441AFB38.4060403@simplistix.co.uk> Hi All, I'm planning on coming the conference as well as giving a talk, so: I guess I register here: http://indico.cern.ch/confRegistrationFormDisplay.py?confId=44 And I submit my talk here: http://indico.cern.ch/abstractSubmission.py?confId=44 I book my hotel by contacting one of the hotels listed here: http://housing-service.web.cern.ch/housing-service/listhotel.html Can anyone recommend a nice, rather than cheap, hotel with good WiFi/ethernet that's as close to the conference as possible? How should I be looking to commute from the hotel to the conference venue for each day of the conference? I'm guessing I should look to checkin on the evening of the 2nd and checkout on the morning of the 6th? (I'm not able to attend any sprints due to time constraints :-/) Are there any conference dinners or the like that I should make sure I'm around for? Also, I remember there being talk of a tour around CERN. Is this still on? If so, how do I sign up for it? Oh, and what currency should I bring? What does stuff cost in Switzerland? Can I just live off a credit card? cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Fri Mar 17 19:48:26 2006 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:48:26 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Paranoid Questions from an Attendee/Speaker In-Reply-To: <441AFB38.4060403@simplistix.co.uk> References: <441AFB38.4060403@simplistix.co.uk> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0603171048m16e2976er3a0c3af301cf0272@mail.gmail.com> Chris, > > Are there any conference dinners or the like that I should make sure I'm > around for? Yes, there is a conference dinner, and it is allready within the time table available in that CERN software. Also, I remember there being talk of a tour around CERN. Is this still > on? If so, how do I sign up for it? The sign up is within the registration form. That should be on the day after, that is 2006-07-06. Oh, and what currency should I bring? What does stuff cost in > Switzerland? Can I just live off a credit card? Switzerland has the Swiss Frank. I learned from my last visit that Switzerland belongs to the Premium segment. Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060317/3f70d23a/attachment.html From lac at strakt.com Sat Mar 18 15:02:50 2006 From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton) Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 15:02:50 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <441ABCC3.6080100@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <200603181402.k2IE2op8024160@theraft.strakt.com> looks good. can we use some some of this art on the new site someplace? Laura From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Sun Mar 19 14:42:05 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:42:05 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <200603181402.k2IE2op8024160@theraft.strakt.com> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <441ABCC3.6080100@ita.chalmers.se> <200603181402.k2IE2op8024160@theraft.strakt.com> Message-ID: <3B48EBE9-C6CF-4E37-A5F0-0251256C1D31@cern.ch> > looks good. can we use some some of this art on the new site > someplace? > > Laura > I think yes. Vincent - are you interested in helping with this? Ciao Benedikt From mwh at python.net Mon Mar 20 09:21:47 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:21:47 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage structure In-Reply-To: <441AFBF6.3090804@ita.chalmers.se> (Jean-Marc Orliaguet's message of "Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:12:06 +0100") References: <441AFBF6.3090804@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <2m4q1t1q78.fsf@starship.python.net> Jean-Marc Orliaguet writes: > also It feels weird to switch sites, maybe the location / hotels > information could be placed www.europython.org ? currently it's > somehow duplicated. I think this would make sense. > there is also a third site involved > (http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2006) - it is possible to put > a wiki on www.europython.org. 3 sites for one conference is a lot.. If I had infinite time, I'd attack indico until its output vaguely resembled that of the ep.org look and reverse proxy it into the www.europython.org site structure. However I don't :) I think some kind of "users" wiki on europython.org is a fine idea, although just using python.org has an appealing lack of effort about it. > BTW, the site now validates XHTML 1.0 strict ( http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.europython.org ) Cool! Cheers, mwh -- 31. Simplicity does not precede complexity, but follows it. -- Alan Perlis, http://www.cs.yale.edu/homes/perlis-alan/quotes.html From Benedikt.Hegner at cern.ch Mon Mar 20 10:10:47 2006 From: Benedikt.Hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:10:47 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage gone? Message-ID: Hi, why do I get the CPS interface when looking at europython.org? There should be something (even if the new page is still not ready) Ciao Benedikt From mwh at python.net Mon Mar 20 10:28:13 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:28:13 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage gone? In-Reply-To: (Benedikt Hegner's message of "Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:10:47 +0100") References: Message-ID: <2mzmjlzcr6.fsf@starship.python.net> Benedikt Hegner writes: > Hi, > > why do I get the CPS interface when looking at europython.org? There > should be something (even if the new page is still not ready) Are you still logged in? Cheers, mwh -- we should write an os YES * itamar starts a sourceforge project -- from Twisted.Quotes From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Mon Mar 20 10:31:15 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:31:15 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage gone? In-Reply-To: <2mzmjlzcr6.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2mzmjlzcr6.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <760C1F6D-756F-43EB-A6E4-079A93161931@cern.ch> > Benedikt Hegner writes: > >> Hi, >> >> why do I get the CPS interface when looking at europython.org? There >> should be something (even if the new page is still not ready) > > Are you still logged in? :-) Thanks, Benedikt From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Mon Mar 20 10:36:13 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:36:13 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage structure In-Reply-To: <2m4q1t1q78.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <441AFBF6.3090804@ita.chalmers.se> <2m4q1t1q78.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <441E778D.6080200@ita.chalmers.se> Michael Hudson wrote: >Jean-Marc Orliaguet writes: > > > >>also It feels weird to switch sites, maybe the location / hotels >>information could be placed www.europython.org ? currently it's >>somehow duplicated. >> >> > >I think this would make sense. > > > >>there is also a third site involved >>(http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2006) - it is possible to put >>a wiki on www.europython.org. 3 sites for one conference is a lot.. >> >> > >If I had infinite time, I'd attack indico until its output vaguely >resembled that of the ep.org look and reverse proxy it into the >www.europython.org site structure. However I don't :) > > > yes, at least remove the "target=new" in the "Europython Home", to avoid opening a new window each time. >I think some kind of "users" wiki on europython.org is a fine idea, >although just using python.org has an appealing lack of effort about >it. > > > I can set up a wiki, this is little effort. PS: Benedikt, the current theme info is stored in a cookie. Log out to get the "real" site. /JM From chris at simplistix.co.uk Mon Mar 20 10:08:31 2006 From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:08:31 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] Paranoid Questions from an Attendee/Speaker In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0603171048m16e2976er3a0c3af301cf0272@mail.gmail.com> References: <441AFB38.4060403@simplistix.co.uk> <7be3f35d0603171048m16e2976er3a0c3af301cf0272@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <441E710F.3010206@simplistix.co.uk> Hi Harald, Harald Armin Massa wrote: >> Are there any conference dinners or the like that I should make sure I'm >> around for? > > Yes, there is a conference dinner, and it is allready within the time table > available in that CERN software. Yep, I think I ticked that box, eventually... > Also, I remember there being talk of a tour around CERN. Is this still >> on? If so, how do I sign up for it? > > The sign up is within the registration form. That should be on the day > after, that is 2006-07-06. Okay, so I guess I should be looking to leave on the evening of the day of the tour at the earliest? Hmm, the first time I submitted my registration, I didn't even see those checkboxes, I did go back and fill them but who should I check with that I'm registered for the dinner and the tour successfully? > Switzerland has the Swiss Frank. I learned from my last visit that > Switzerland belongs to the Premium segment. *chuckles* Okay, does that mean I can live off a credit card or will I need cash? Still interested in recommendations on hotels for the conference, and how to get from the hotel to the conference location... cheers, Chris -- Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting - http://www.simplistix.co.uk From mwh at python.net Mon Mar 20 10:53:44 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 09:53:44 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] homepage structure In-Reply-To: <441E778D.6080200@ita.chalmers.se> (Jean-Marc Orliaguet's message of "Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:36:13 +0100") References: <441AFBF6.3090804@ita.chalmers.se> <2m4q1t1q78.fsf@starship.python.net> <441E778D.6080200@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <2mveu9zbkn.fsf@starship.python.net> Jean-Marc Orliaguet writes: > Michael Hudson wrote: > >>If I had infinite time, I'd attack indico until its output vaguely >>resembled that of the ep.org look and reverse proxy it into the >>www.europython.org site structure. However I don't :) >> >> >> > > yes, at least remove the "target=new" in the "Europython Home", to avoid > opening a new window each time. Done. >>I think some kind of "users" wiki on europython.org is a fine idea, >>although just using python.org has an appealing lack of effort about >>it. >> >> >> > > I can set up a wiki, this is little effort. Cool. Cheers, mwh -- > It might get my attention if you'd spin around in your chair, > spoke in tongues, and puked jets of green goblin goo. I can arrange for this. ;-) -- Barry Warsaw & Fred Drake From mwh at python.net Mon Mar 20 11:05:09 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 10:05:09 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> ( =?iso-8859-1?q?Jacob_Hall=E9n's_message_of?= "Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:45:36 +0100") References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> Message-ID: <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> Jacob Hall?n writes: > fredagen den 17 mars 2006 16.39 skrev Michael Hudson: >> I have a slightly tangential question: is it EuroPython or Europython? >> I've always tended to the former, but the poster and a few places on >> the website say the latter. Anyone have any strong opinions? > > The form I have used consistently is Europython. I prefer it before the > camelcase form for aesthetic reasons. Hum. I guess I prefer the camelcase form for aesthetic reasons, so we have an impasse :) Does anyone else care at all? Cheers, mwh -- Please tell me I don't have to break out sarcasm tags. Please. Smartassed one-liners are a coping mechanism, and I really need them this week. -- Charles Herbig, asr From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Mon Mar 20 11:12:28 2006 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:12:28 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <20060320101228.GE26190@crater.logilab.fr> On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 10:05:09AM +0000, Michael Hudson wrote: > Hum. I guess I prefer the camelcase form for aesthetic reasons, so we > have an impasse :) Does anyone else care at all? +1 EuroPython. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Mon Mar 20 11:25:37 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:25:37 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <20060320101228.GE26190@crater.logilab.fr> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> <20060320101228.GE26190@crater.logilab.fr> Message-ID: <441E8321.1010603@ita.chalmers.se> Nicolas Chauvat wrote: >On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 10:05:09AM +0000, Michael Hudson wrote: > > >>Hum. I guess I prefer the camelcase form for aesthetic reasons, so we >>have an impasse :) Does anyone else care at all? >> >> > >+1 EuroPython. > > > good you volunteered to update the site, I'm sending you the login information in a minute. /JM From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Mon Mar 20 11:42:22 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:42:22 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <441E870E.5010209@ita.chalmers.se> Michael Hudson wrote: >Jacob Hall?n writes: > > > >>fredagen den 17 mars 2006 16.39 skrev Michael Hudson: >> >> >>>I have a slightly tangential question: is it EuroPython or Europython? >>>I've always tended to the former, but the poster and a few places on >>>the website say the latter. Anyone have any strong opinions? >>> >>> >>The form I have used consistently is Europython. I prefer it before the >>camelcase form for aesthetic reasons. >> >> > >Hum. I guess I prefer the camelcase form for aesthetic reasons, so we >have an impasse :) Does anyone else care at all? > >Cheers, >mwh > > > Michael, do as you please, consistency is most important. I can update some parts of the site if you need help with it.. cheers /JM From mwh at python.net Mon Mar 20 12:16:56 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:16:56 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] Homage layout In-Reply-To: <200603171859.05652.jacob@strakt.com> ( =?iso-8859-1?q?Jacob_Hall=E9n's_message_of?= "Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:59:05 +0100") References: <200603171859.05652.jacob@strakt.com> Message-ID: <2mmzflz7pz.fsf@starship.python.net> Jacob Hall?n writes: > To make the page look better balanced there are a couple of things that should > be easy to do: > > - Make the "Site updates" box go as far down as the "Highlights" box does. The > gap creates a visual dis-association between the upper part of the page and > the lower part. This sounds like a good idea. > - Do something about the empty space to the right of the WHAT-WHO-WHY boxes. > Either shift them to be centered on the page or put something in the space. Another option would be to add a "WHEN" box, I guess. > - The distance between the lower edge of the "Highlights" box and the upper > edge of the WHAT-WHO-WHY should be the same as the distance between the lower > edge of the toolbar and the upper edge of the "Site updates"- "Europython > 2006" - "Search this site". This is already the case, is it not? Cheers, mwh -- The word "Fascism" has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies 'something not desirable'. -- George Orwell in "Politics and the English Language" From mwh at python.net Mon Mar 20 12:17:29 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:17:29 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <441E870E.5010209@ita.chalmers.se> (Jean-Marc Orliaguet's message of "Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:42:22 +0100") References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> <441E870E.5010209@ita.chalmers.se> Message-ID: <2mirq9z7p2.fsf@starship.python.net> Jean-Marc Orliaguet writes: > Michael Hudson wrote: > >>Hum. I guess I prefer the camelcase form for aesthetic reasons, so we >>have an impasse :) Does anyone else care at all? >> > > Michael, do as you please, consistency is most important. I can update > some parts of the site if you need help with it.. I think I got them all, thanks :) Cheers, mwh -- We've had a lot of problems going from glibc 2.0 to glibc 2.1. People claim binary compatibility. Except for functions they don't like. -- Peter Van Eynde, comp.lang.lisp From mwh at python.net Mon Mar 20 12:23:09 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:23:09 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <2mirq9z7p2.fsf@starship.python.net> (Michael Hudson's message of "Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:17:29 +0000") References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> <441E870E.5010209@ita.chalmers.se> <2mirq9z7p2.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <2mek0xz7fm.fsf@starship.python.net> Michael Hudson writes: > Jean-Marc Orliaguet writes: > >> Michael Hudson wrote: >> >>>Hum. I guess I prefer the camelcase form for aesthetic reasons, so we >>>have an impasse :) Does anyone else care at all? >>> >> >> Michael, do as you please, consistency is most important. I can update >> some parts of the site if you need help with it.. > > I think I got them all, thanks :) ... apart from the ones in the artwork, of course, which is where this thread started ... Cheers, mwh -- Hmmm... its Sunday afternoon: I could do my work, or I could do a Fourier analysis of my computer's fan noise. -- Amit Muthu, ucam.chat (from Owen Dunn's summary of the year) From hpk at trillke.net Mon Mar 20 12:06:02 2006 From: hpk at trillke.net (holger krekel) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:06:02 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <20060320110602.GM7482@solar.trillke> On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 10:05 +0000, Michael Hudson wrote: > Jacob Hall?n writes: > > > fredagen den 17 mars 2006 16.39 skrev Michael Hudson: > >> I have a slightly tangential question: is it EuroPython or Europython? > >> I've always tended to the former, but the poster and a few places on > >> the website say the latter. Anyone have any strong opinions? > > > > The form I have used consistently is Europython. I prefer it before the > > camelcase form for aesthetic reasons. > > Hum. I guess I prefer the camelcase form for aesthetic reasons, so we > have an impasse :) Does anyone else care at all? i like EuroPython better because Europython de-emphasizes Python. holger From dario at ita.chalmers.se Mon Mar 20 12:40:45 2006 From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 12:40:45 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <20060320110602.GM7482@solar.trillke> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> <20060320110602.GM7482@solar.trillke> Message-ID: <441E94BD.1060704@ita.chalmers.se> EuroPython here too. /dario -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. Lyrics applied to programming & application design: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley From steve at canonical.com Mon Mar 20 12:29:03 2006 From: steve at canonical.com (Steve Alexander) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:29:03 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <441E91FF.10504@canonical.com> Michael Hudson wrote: > Jacob Hall?n writes: > >> fredagen den 17 mars 2006 16.39 skrev Michael Hudson: >>> I have a slightly tangential question: is it EuroPython or Europython? >>> I've always tended to the former, but the poster and a few places on >>> the website say the latter. Anyone have any strong opinions? >> The form I have used consistently is Europython. I prefer it before the >> camelcase form for aesthetic reasons. > > Hum. I guess I prefer the camelcase form for aesthetic reasons, so we > have an impasse :) Does anyone else care at all? I often abbreviate EuroPython to EP. I think the style EuroPython is more amenable to that than the style Europython. But I think the style Europython looks more modern and business-like. It is probably more web 2.0. The style euroPython would be even more web 2.0. -- Steve Alexander (What is "web 2.0" anyway?) From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Mon Mar 20 13:05:11 2006 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:05:11 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <441E91FF.10504@canonical.com> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <2my7z913o9.fsf@starship.python.net> <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> <441E91FF.10504@canonical.com> Message-ID: <20060320120511.GI26190@crater.logilab.fr> On Mon, Mar 20, 2006 at 11:29:03AM +0000, Steve Alexander wrote: > But I think the style Europython looks more modern and business-like. > It is probably more web 2.0. The style euroPython would be even more > web 2.0. What about renaming the language to "pythoN 3000" then ? :) -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From jmo at ita.chalmers.se Mon Mar 20 13:27:00 2006 From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:27:00 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Homage layout In-Reply-To: <2mmzflz7pz.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <200603171859.05652.jacob@strakt.com> <2mmzflz7pz.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <441E9F94.3090001@ita.chalmers.se> Michael Hudson wrote: > > >>- Do something about the empty space to the right of the WHAT-WHO-WHY boxes. >>Either shift them to be centered on the page or put something in the space. >> >> > >Another option would be to add a "WHEN" box, I guess. > > > well, the "when" is in the banner already? I noticed that having some space left on the front page for inserting dynamic content (images, visual links, ..) is important when the conference is getting nearer. currently the left column is not used too much but they'll be more obvious content to put in it later on. cheers /JM -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ep.png Type: image/png Size: 13389 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060320/fa2d4353/attachment-0001.png From mwh at python.net Mon Mar 20 19:44:01 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:44:01 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] indico private? Message-ID: <2mveu9x8ge.fsf@starship.python.net> Currently we have pages like: http://www.europython.org/sections/tracks_and_talks/call-for-proposals which link to: http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceProgram.py?confId=44 which currently can't be viewed without a password. I thought the indico site was "ready enough" for public viewing... at any rate this needs to be sorted out soon, because I really want to send the CFP out by the end of the week. Cheers, mwh -- dash: where do you go to school? mitiege: PSU tpck: didn't faassen go there too? -- from Twisted.Quotes From paul at boddie.org.uk Mon Mar 20 19:52:15 2006 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:52:15 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] indico private? In-Reply-To: <2mveu9x8ge.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <2mveu9x8ge.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <200603201952.15712.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Monday 20 March 2006 19:44, Michael Hudson wrote: > > http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceProgram.py?confId=44 > > which currently can't be viewed without a password. I don't think it can even be viewed by most people with an Indico account: it's still marked as private for normal users like myself. Paul From ms at cerenity.org Mon Mar 20 21:16:06 2006 From: ms at cerenity.org (Michael Sparks) Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:16:06 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] europython poster In-Reply-To: <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> References: <242374A6-73BC-47E6-BF84-45E7D38BBC90@cern.ch> <200603171845.37545.jacob@strakt.com> <2mr74xzb1m.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <200603202016.06496.ms@cerenity.org> On Monday 20 March 2006 10:05, Michael Hudson wrote: > Jacob Hall?n writes: > > fredagen den 17 mars 2006 16.39 skrev Michael Hudson: > >> I have a slightly tangential question: is it EuroPython or Europython? > >> I've always tended to the former, but the poster and a few places on > >> the website say the latter. Anyone have any strong opinions? > > > > The form I have used consistently is Europython. I prefer it before the > > camelcase form for aesthetic reasons. > > Hum. I guess I prefer the camelcase form for aesthetic reasons, so we > have an impasse :) Does anyone else care at all? +1 Europython. Michael. From paul at boddie.org.uk Tue Mar 21 01:10:42 2006 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:10:42 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Minor Web site corrections/suggestions Message-ID: <200603210110.43150.paul@boddie.org.uk> Hello all, The EuroPython Web site is really coming along now, but here are some minor, nagging-level corrections for some of the information on there: The spelling of "accomodation" should be fixed to be "accommodation"; this affects a few pages, I guess. On the location page [1], we might want to mention some of that information Chris Withers was asking about: * The Swiss currency is the Swiss Franc (CHF). I don't know how much roaming people are going to do before/during/after the conference, but it's useful (or perhaps comforting) to know (for those that didn't already know) that France and Italy both have the Euro (EUR). * Credit cards are usable in Switzerland (or they were when I had to use them there), and they have various other payment systems in use, too, although I imagine that some of them (eg. CASH, not actual cash!) are only of interest to payment fanatics and the banks. ;-) * Switzerland is regarded as quite expensive: a quick search for the often- popularised cost-of-living surveys revealed that Geneva is in the top ten in most cases. (Here in Norway, there was a lot of press about Oslo being #1, but the property markets often distort such surveys, and whilst Oslo sits below London in some tables [2], it did acquire the title of "the most expensive of the 71 cities surveyed" without rents included, although I hardly think I can derive any satisfaction from that.) Anyway, if you're aware of London, Paris, Oslo, Copenhagen, Dublin, Stockholm, Helsinki or Reykjavik economics, Geneva might not be a big shock. (See also [3].) On the breakfast, lunch and dinner page [4], it says that the restaurant is open until "01:00pm" - this should, of course, be until 1:00am or 0100. Cue happy memories of late night bulk beer buying as a summer student. ;-) The proposed sprints page should probably redirect to (or make way for) the actual sprints page on the Wiki. I seem to remember it occasionally redirecting for information relevant to last years conference. Anyway, if this is the wrong place to send all this information, please let me know. Having taken a break from the python.org toolchain for a while, I'd be happy to sanity-check stuff for EuroPython. (And we should definitely retain the upper case E and P for consistency with prior practice, yes.) Paul [1] http://www.europython.org/sections/location [2] http://www.citymayors.com/economics/expensive_cities2.html [3] http://www.citymayors.com/economics/expensive_cities_eiu.html [4] http://www.europython.org/sections/events/breakfast [5] http://www.europython.org/sections/sprints_and_wiki/proposed_sprints From mwh at python.net Tue Mar 21 10:08:10 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:08:10 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] Minor Web site corrections/suggestions In-Reply-To: <200603210110.43150.paul@boddie.org.uk> (Paul Boddie's message of "Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:10:42 +0100") References: <200603210110.43150.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <2mr74wxj0l.fsf@starship.python.net> Paul Boddie writes: > Hello all, > > The EuroPython Web site is really coming along now, but here are some minor, > nagging-level corrections for some of the information on there: I believe it's traditional at this point for me to say "do you want the rights to edit the website for yourself?" :) > The spelling of "accomodation" should be fixed to be "accommodation"; this > affects a few pages, I guess. I think I got all of these; please tell me if I missed any. > On the location page [1], we might want to mention some of that information > Chris Withers was asking about: > > * The Swiss currency is the Swiss Franc (CHF). ... > > * Credit cards are usable in Switzerland ... > > * Switzerland is regarded as quite expensive: ... Done. > On the breakfast, lunch and dinner page [4], it says that the restaurant is > open until "01:00pm" - this should, of course, be until 1:00am or 0100. Cue > happy memories of late night bulk beer buying as a summer student. ;-) Done. > The proposed sprints page should probably redirect to (or make way for) the > actual sprints page on the Wiki. I seem to remember it occasionally > redirecting for information relevant to last years conference. Not done yet, as I don't think there's a wiki on ep.org yet. > Anyway, if this is the wrong place to send all this information, please let me > know. Having taken a break from the python.org toolchain for a while, I'd be > happy to sanity-check stuff for EuroPython. (And we should definitely retain > the upper case E and P for consistency with prior practice, yes.) Thanks a lot! Cheers, mwh -- If you're talking "useful", I'm not your bot. -- Tim Peters, 08 Nov 2001 From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Tue Mar 21 10:45:24 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:45:24 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] cern photos Message-ID: Hi, I have some pictures we can put on the homepage. Two pictures of the building where the conference will take place: http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/pictures/bat40.jpg http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/pictures/bat40_2.jpg The main auditorium: http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/pictures/main.jpg The open space for poster sessions: http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/pictures/pas_perdus.jpg One of the conference rooms: http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/pictures/room_40-SS-C01.jpg On of the rooms for sprints: http://hegner.home.cern.ch/hegner/pictures/40-R-A10.jpg Ciao Benedikt From lac at strakt.com Wed Mar 22 13:36:36 2006 From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:36:36 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] links to interviews Message-ID: <200603221236.k2MCaaqU009051@theraft.strakt.com> Strakt linked to the interviews of various strakt people over the years, but now if you go to, for instance: http://europython.zope.nl/2002/interviews/entries/laura_creighton you get to the Europython home page. Where are the interviews now, and how should we refer to them? thanks very much, Laura From mwh at python.net Wed Mar 22 20:54:14 2006 From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:54:14 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] indico private? In-Reply-To: <2mveu9x8ge.fsf@starship.python.net> (Michael Hudson's message of "Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:44:01 +0000") References: <2mveu9x8ge.fsf@starship.python.net> Message-ID: <2my7z2uuft.fsf@starship.python.net> Michael Hudson writes: > Currently we have pages like: > > http://www.europython.org/sections/tracks_and_talks/call-for-proposals > > which link to: > > http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceProgram.py?confId=44 > > which currently can't be viewed without a password. I thought the > indico site was "ready enough" for public viewing... at any rate this > needs to be sorted out soon, because I really want to send the CFP out > by the end of the week. Ping! I'm going to make the indico site public again tomorrow morning unless someone comes up with a good reason why I shouldn't. Cheers, mwh -- One of the great skills in using any language is knowing what not to use, what not to say. ... There's that simplicity thing again. -- Ron Jeffries From jan.ulrich at hasecke.com Wed Mar 22 11:37:10 2006 From: jan.ulrich at hasecke.com (Jan Ulrich Hasecke) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:37:10 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Python for Kids? Message-ID: <18B5FE38-8700-4C4B-8509-84F38A1EF211@hasecke.com> Hello, I am interested to register for the europython and would like to come with my son. He is 13 and has started to program with python 2 years ago. He is interested in the game track of course. Are there any other events for "kids", interested in learning python? There is a very good book around in German "Python for Kids" for example. Are you planning to do some beginner courses or courses for advanced beginners? Sincerely Jan Ulrich Hasecke -- DZUG e.V. - Deutschsprachige Zope User Group - www.zope.de - www.dzug.org Forster Stra?e 29 - 06112 Halle/Saale Telefon +49 345 122 9889 9 - Fax +49 345 122 9889 1 From lac at strakt.com Thu Mar 23 05:08:03 2006 From: lac at strakt.com (Laura Creighton) Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:08:03 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Python for Kids? In-Reply-To: Message from Jan Ulrich Hasecke of "Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:37:10 +0100." <18B5FE38-8700-4C4B-8509-84F38A1EF211@hasecke.com> References: <18B5FE38-8700-4C4B-8509-84F38A1EF211@hasecke.com> Message-ID: <200603230408.k2N483wf023604@theraft.strakt.com> In a message of Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:37:10 +0100, Jan Ulrich Hasecke writes: >Hello, > >I am interested to register for the europython and would like to come >with my son. He is 13 and has started to program with python 2 years >ago. He is interested in the game track of course. Are there any >other events for "kids", interested in learning python? Let us discuss this on edu-sig at python.org I am a chair of the education track. The short answer is, 'we can do whatever we want'. Teaching children is a currently popular topic in edu-sig. I wonder how many other people would bring their children if we did something like this? followups to edu-sig, Laura Creighton From aiste at pov.lt Fri Mar 24 15:50:20 2006 From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:50:20 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Organisers meeting on #europython Message-ID: <4424072C.5020609@pov.lt> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all, We need to have another organiser meeting next week. The points to discuss would be these: * Finalising the website * Deciding what contents goes on http://www.europython.org/ and what on http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=44 * Payment solution finalisation * Sponsors What dates and times would be suitable for people? I suggest Tuesday 28th of March or Thursday 30th of March 17:00 CET. - -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEJAcsfK7m+cZVdY0RAioGAKCiwYlgvYYQj066XezaJ/0iJlJlIQCfWYXY pMbZtEway2/YLl3qmIDq4xQ= =kCs2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From hpk at trillke.net Fri Mar 24 16:19:57 2006 From: hpk at trillke.net (holger krekel) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:19:57 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] press/pr responsibility ... Message-ID: <20060324151957.GZ25586@solar.trillke> Hi folks, if i look at my current involvement in various issues including personal ones and projects i think i cannot and really did not fill my responsibility of caring for press/pr issues for EuroPython. So i'd like to retract there and concentrate on co-chairing the agility track. Sorry about that but i figure it's better to say it clearly rather now than much later. I briefly mailed with Paul (who also wanted/s to care a bit) about this before and it probably makes sense to distribute any press activities between people at hand unless there is someone who can take a more leading role. I will try to help/review when and what i can and maybe my situation relaxes a bit but it doesn't look like that at the moment. sorry about that. best, holger From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Sat Mar 25 08:45:19 2006 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:45:19 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] for all interested Message-ID: <7be3f35d0603242345w372e746amadace4007d8b1924@mail.gmail.com> http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43 the six not working ways to secure a WLAN ... please especially look at the one with the MAC-adresses and consider that even inventors of the WWW and producers of antimatter use this. -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 - PostgreSQL - supported by a community that does not put you on hold -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060325/d82362d8/attachment.html From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Sat Mar 25 14:27:19 2006 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:27:19 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] for all interested In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0603242345w372e746amadace4007d8b1924@mail.gmail.com> References: <7be3f35d0603242345w372e746amadace4007d8b1924@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <29322688-1294-4E2C-8E1F-69DF80ED5177@cern.ch> > http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43 > > the six not working ways to secure a WLAN ... > > please especially look at the one with the MAC-adresses and > consider that even inventors of the WWW and producers of antimatter > use this. *rotfl* From time to time we have people showing our IT department that MAC filtering is a stupid thing. But you can have lots of smart people if just the wrong one makes the decisions So big labs differ in no way from huge companies ;-) Benedikt -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20060325/31390938/attachment.htm From mal at egenix.com Mon Mar 27 00:07:42 2006 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:07:42 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Authorisation - The access to this event has been restricted by its owner ... Message-ID: <442710AE.3000201@egenix.com> Hello, I wonder why I always get the above message when clicking on any of the proposal links on the web-site. I've registered, but still can't get access to the proposal pages. Am I missing something or are all these pages private ? The web-site says: "submission opens March 15". Thanks, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Mar 27 2006) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for free ! :::: From mal at egenix.com Fri Mar 31 15:14:24 2006 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:14:24 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Authorisation - The access to this event has been restricted by its owner ... In-Reply-To: <442710AE.3000201@egenix.com> References: <442710AE.3000201@egenix.com> Message-ID: <442D2B30.3040205@egenix.com> M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Hello, > > I wonder why I always get the above message when clicking on any of > the proposal links on the web-site. I've registered, > but still can't get access to the proposal pages. Am I missing > something or are all these pages private ? > The web-site says: "submission opens March 15". Ping. Just wanted to check whether the mailing list still works - it's unusually quite around here. The above problem still persists, BTW. -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, Apr 01 2006) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ ::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,FreeBSD for free ! :::: From paul at boddie.org.uk Fri Mar 31 15:29:49 2006 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 15:29:49 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Authorisation - The access to this event has been restricted by its owner ... In-Reply-To: <442D2B30.3040205@egenix.com> References: <442710AE.3000201@egenix.com> <442D2B30.3040205@egenix.com> Message-ID: <200603311529.49807.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Friday 31 March 2006 15:14, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > > > > I wonder why I always get the above message when clicking on any of > > the proposal links on the web-site. I've registered, > > but still can't get access to the proposal pages. Am I missing > > something or are all these pages private ? > > The web-site says: "submission opens March 15". [...] > The above problem still persists, BTW. I've registered an Indico account, but everything was still "restricted" last time I checked the EuroPython pages. I think Michael Hudson was prepared to make it all public (although accessible to registered users would be at least somewhat better than the current situation), but perhaps someone persuaded him otherwise at the last minute. As for the submissions opening date, I'd imagine that the date is unofficial given that no non-IRC announcement has been made, as far as I can see. Paul