From mwh at python.net  Fri Sep  1 08:32:50 2006
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 07:32:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] indico for EP 2007
In-Reply-To: <f89206d80608311149r1af30acbm23b605e3aad2918f@mail.gmail.com>
	(Nicolas Pettiaux's message of "Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:49:56 +0200")
References: <7be3f35d0608310835r10c726c4k990d8cfaf053b6fb@mail.gmail.com>
	<1CA39A09-750E-45C4-A71A-A5529271DA82@cern.ch>
	<f89206d80608311149r1af30acbm23b605e3aad2918f@mail.gmail.com>
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"Nicolas Pettiaux" <nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be> writes:

> 2006/8/31, Benedikt Hegner <benedikt.hegner at cern.ch>:
>>
>> Harald,
>>
>> I vote for a private installation. I think it would be not easy to convince
>> people to give support at CERN again. But they promised giving support for
>> the first installation on our server (what ever "our server" means).
>
> +1

OK, next question: where?  I guess there might be something to say for
running it on europython.org, but what kind of access is required for
thie installation?  Who's going to do it?  I guess I can try, but I'm
not mad keen for it to be me :-)

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  To summarise the summary of the summary:- people are a problem.
                   -- The Hitch-Hikers Guide to the Galaxy, Episode 12

From dialtone at divmod.com  Fri Sep  1 11:53:55 2006
From: dialtone at divmod.com (Valentino Volonghi aka Dialtone)
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2006 11:53:55 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EP 2007
In-Reply-To: <f89206d80608290901j766d6a46v9bc0afa1e1681369@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20060901095355.1717.653241027.divmod.quotient.35866@ohm>

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:01:59 +0200, Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be> wrote:
>I am a teacher as well as a software consultant and the teacher's
>schedule does not allow me any availability before June 30th.
>
>I would therefore like and sugggest that EP2007 be scheduled during
>the first week of July instead if possible

It would be the third EP in a row that I have to skip because it happens
exactly during my exams. Unfortunately even the other proposed date of 25-27 is just at the beginning of my exams.

If doing the EP is not possible before 25th june I'd rather have it the second week of july which is still during my exams but I'll have had a chance to finish the exams in advance (like I did this year) and be present at EP.

Of course I also understand that it's hard to find a spot of availability for everyone so it's not a problem if the only available dates are between the last of june and the first of july.

From steve at canonical.com  Sat Sep  2 17:21:00 2006
From: steve at canonical.com (Steve Alexander)
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 18:21:00 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Proposal: EP 2007 dates, Mon 9 July -> Wed 11 July
Message-ID: <44F9A15C.9010603@canonical.com>

Hi Everyone,

There's been some discussion on this list about dates for next years'
EuroPython conference, that will be held in Vilnius, Lithuania.

Aiste from the team who are organising the conference has asked for the
dates to be decided within the next few days, so that they can make firm
arrangements with venues and that kind of thing.

Aiste originally proposed the dates 25-27 June.  Nicolas Pettiaux, Dario
Lopez-Kasten, Gregor Lindl and Valentine Volonghi pointed out that these
dates are bad for those with teaching commitments and exams.

Python in education is an important topic for EuroPython, so we should
choose dates that work in that regard.

The following week, 2-4 July, would be possible, but is both difficult
for many attendees from the USA, and inconvenient for the organising
team in Vilnius.

The week following that, 9-11 July, is good for the organising team in
Vilnius, and ought to be good also for those from the USA, and those
with teaching or exam commitments.

So, I propose that EuroPython 2007 in Vilnius be held Monday 9 July to
Wednesday 11 July.

The EuroPython board will vote on this on Tuesday next week (5
September).  Meanwhile, I'd like to hear about any serious objections to
these dates.  I'm most interested in issues that apply to broad
categories of people, rather than individuals; for example, if the dates
are bad for teachers in Europe, or for all French people, and so forth.

I'm cc-ing Jim Fulton from the USA and Richard Jones from Australia,
both of whom spoke at the last EuroPython.  Jim and Richard, please tell
me if the dates would be bad for you or your country-folk.

-- 
Steve Alexander

From magnus.lycka at gmail.com  Sat Sep  2 23:12:37 2006
From: magnus.lycka at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Magnus_Lyck=E5?=)
Date: Sat, 2 Sep 2006 23:12:37 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Proposal: EP 2007 dates, Mon 9 July -> Wed 11 July
In-Reply-To: <44F9A15C.9010603@canonical.com>
References: <44F9A15C.9010603@canonical.com>
Message-ID: <7b98d8a80609021412h3f50d0c0uc46fd1c153cb13c@mail.gmail.com>

I'll probably be in Lithuania anyway in the most of July, so from my
personal point of view it's fine, but I'm wondering what kind of people
we want to attract--what kind of image we want to give the conference.

An event in July feels more like something people would do in their
free time, than something they do professionally. I don't think that
matters a lot for the true enthusiasts, but for the typical professional
who is curious about Python or has been adviced to use it etc, it
might not be so attractive to work at that time of year. Or is it just
in Sweden that basically all of July is vacation time? Perhaps it's
more end of July / beginning of August down on the continent?

2006/9/2, Steve Alexander <steve at canonical.com>:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> There's been some discussion on this list about dates for next years'
> EuroPython conference, that will be held in Vilnius, Lithuania.
>
> Aiste from the team who are organising the conference has asked for the
> dates to be decided within the next few days, so that they can make firm
> arrangements with venues and that kind of thing.
>
> Aiste originally proposed the dates 25-27 June.  Nicolas Pettiaux, Dario
> Lopez-Kasten, Gregor Lindl and Valentine Volonghi pointed out that these
> dates are bad for those with teaching commitments and exams.
>
> Python in education is an important topic for EuroPython, so we should
> choose dates that work in that regard.
>
> The following week, 2-4 July, would be possible, but is both difficult
> for many attendees from the USA, and inconvenient for the organising
> team in Vilnius.
>
> The week following that, 9-11 July, is good for the organising team in
> Vilnius, and ought to be good also for those from the USA, and those
> with teaching or exam commitments.
>
> So, I propose that EuroPython 2007 in Vilnius be held Monday 9 July to
> Wednesday 11 July.
>
> The EuroPython board will vote on this on Tuesday next week (5
> September).  Meanwhile, I'd like to hear about any serious objections to
> these dates.  I'm most interested in issues that apply to broad
> categories of people, rather than individuals; for example, if the dates
> are bad for teachers in Europe, or for all French people, and so forth.
>
> I'm cc-ing Jim Fulton from the USA and Richard Jones from Australia,
> both of whom spoke at the last EuroPython.  Jim and Richard, please tell
> me if the dates would be bad for you or your country-folk.
>
> --
> Steve Alexander
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From fabio.pliger at siavr.it  Fri Sep  1 12:16:04 2006
From: fabio.pliger at siavr.it (fabio.pliger)
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2006 12:16:04 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EP 2007
Message-ID: <WorldClient-F200609011216.AA16040203@siavr.it>

Greetings and congratulations to Vilnius and to POV!!

About EP2007....  all dates are good dates (even if would also have exams at 
the same period of Valentino.. but,by now, EP is a high priority event! )  
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From fabio.pliger at siavr.it  Sun Sep  3 00:18:55 2006
From: fabio.pliger at siavr.it (fabio.pliger)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 00:18:55 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EP 2007
Message-ID: <WorldClient-F200609030018.AA18550009@siavr.it>

Greetings and congratulations to Vilnius and to 
POV!!
About EP2007....  all dates are good 
dates (even if would also have exams at the same period of Valentino.. 
but,by now, EP is a high priority event! )  :)
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From asouzaleite at gmx.de  Sun Sep  3 20:19:24 2006
From: asouzaleite at gmx.de (Aroldo Souza-Leite)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 20:19:24 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Proposal: EP 2007 dates, Mon 9 July -> Wed 11 July
In-Reply-To: <7b98d8a80609021412h3f50d0c0uc46fd1c153cb13c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44F9A15C.9010603@canonical.com>
	<7b98d8a80609021412h3f50d0c0uc46fd1c153cb13c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44FB1CAC.3070200@gmx.de>

Congratulations to POV!

9-11 July is a good date as far as I can see. I don't think there is an
image problem with it.

Regards,

Aroldo


Magnus Lyck? schrieb:

>I'll probably be in Lithuania anyway in the most of July, so from my
>personal point of view it's fine, but I'm wondering what kind of people
>we want to attract--what kind of image we want to give the conference.
>
>An event in July feels more like something people would do in their
>free time, than something they do professionally. I don't think that
>matters a lot for the true enthusiasts, but for the typical professional
>who is curious about Python or has been adviced to use it etc, it
>might not be so attractive to work at that time of year. Or is it just
>in Sweden that basically all of July is vacation time? Perhaps it's
>more end of July / beginning of August down on the continent?
>
>2006/9/2, Steve Alexander <steve at canonical.com>:
>  
>
>>Hi Everyone,
>>
>>There's been some discussion on this list about dates for next years'
>>EuroPython conference, that will be held in Vilnius, Lithuania.
>>
>>Aiste from the team who are organising the conference has asked for the
>>dates to be decided within the next few days, so that they can make firm
>>arrangements with venues and that kind of thing.
>>
>>Aiste originally proposed the dates 25-27 June.  Nicolas Pettiaux, Dario
>>Lopez-Kasten, Gregor Lindl and Valentine Volonghi pointed out that these
>>dates are bad for those with teaching commitments and exams.
>>
>>Python in education is an important topic for EuroPython, so we should
>>choose dates that work in that regard.
>>
>>The following week, 2-4 July, would be possible, but is both difficult
>>for many attendees from the USA, and inconvenient for the organising
>>team in Vilnius.
>>
>>The week following that, 9-11 July, is good for the organising team in
>>Vilnius, and ought to be good also for those from the USA, and those
>>with teaching or exam commitments.
>>
>>So, I propose that EuroPython 2007 in Vilnius be held Monday 9 July to
>>Wednesday 11 July.
>>
>>The EuroPython board will vote on this on Tuesday next week (5
>>September).  Meanwhile, I'd like to hear about any serious objections to
>>these dates.  I'm most interested in issues that apply to broad
>>categories of people, rather than individuals; for example, if the dates
>>are bad for teachers in Europe, or for all French people, and so forth.
>>
>>I'm cc-ing Jim Fulton from the USA and Richard Jones from Australia,
>>both of whom spoke at the last EuroPython.  Jim and Richard, please tell
>>me if the dates would be bad for you or your country-folk.
>>
>>--
>>Steve Alexander
>>_______________________________________________
>>EuroPython mailing list
>>EuroPython at python.org
>>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>>    
>>
>_______________________________________________
>EuroPython mailing list
>EuroPython at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>  
>


From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Sun Sep  3 23:58:59 2006
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:58:59 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Proposal: EP 2007 dates, Mon 9 July -> Wed 11 July
In-Reply-To: <7b98d8a80609021412h3f50d0c0uc46fd1c153cb13c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <44F9A15C.9010603@canonical.com>
	<7b98d8a80609021412h3f50d0c0uc46fd1c153cb13c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <44FB5023.40809@ita.chalmers.se>

Magnus Lyck? said the following on 09/02/2006 11:12 PM:
> might not be so attractive to work at that time of year. Or is it just
> in Sweden that basically all of July is vacation time? Perhaps it's
> more end of July / beginning of August down on the continent?

no, but in Sweden we have a lot of attitude of "not doing anything that
is remotely related to work during freetime, even if it is fun".

I have gotten that a lot over the years from people working with what
would classically be described as being "prefessional" and working with
"professional tools, vendors and systems".

It is my impression that other cultures are a bit more relaxed about
this, but I am totally open to the idea that I am wrong.

/dario

-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
Lyrics applied to programming & application design:
"emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley


From hpk at trillke.net  Mon Sep  4 08:36:24 2006
From: hpk at trillke.net (holger krekel)
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2006 08:36:24 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Proposal: EP 2007 dates, Mon 9 July -> Wed 11 July
In-Reply-To: <44FB5023.40809@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <44F9A15C.9010603@canonical.com>
	<7b98d8a80609021412h3f50d0c0uc46fd1c153cb13c@mail.gmail.com>
	<44FB5023.40809@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <20060904063624.GX21969@solar.trillke.net>

On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 23:58 +0200, Dario Lopez-K?sten wrote:
> Magnus Lyck? said the following on 09/02/2006 11:12 PM:
> > might not be so attractive to work at that time of year. Or is it just
> > in Sweden that basically all of July is vacation time? Perhaps it's
> > more end of July / beginning of August down on the continent?
> 
> no, but in Sweden we have a lot of attitude of "not doing anything that
> is remotely related to work during freetime, even if it is fun".
> 
> I have gotten that a lot over the years from people working with what
> would classically be described as being "prefessional" and working with
> "professional tools, vendors and systems".

considering all the different situations in the countries
(9-11 July is still in the german studying  semester in some places, 
is a school holiday in some and worktime in some other parts of
germany etc) i think it is sensible to consider dates by taking
particularly the people being here on the list and wanting to 
come into account.  For me 9-11 july should be fine, FWIW. 

best, 

    holger

From jim at zope.com  Tue Sep  5 14:00:57 2006
From: jim at zope.com (Jim Fulton)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 08:00:57 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] Proposal: EP 2007 dates, Mon 9 July -> Wed 11 July
In-Reply-To: <44F9A15C.9010603@canonical.com>
References: <44F9A15C.9010603@canonical.com>
Message-ID: <3038116B-43AE-4861-AD1F-8EF7A7A95A34@zope.com>


On Sep 2, 2006, at 11:21 AM, Steve Alexander wrote:

> The following week, 2-4 July, would be possible, but is both difficult
> for many attendees from the USA,

Thank you. :)

Scheduling EuroPython over or abutting July 4 is akin to scheduling  
Python
over or abutting Easter, which is a mistake I don't think we'll  make  
again.

Jim

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From steve at canonical.com  Tue Sep  5 19:09:31 2006
From: steve at canonical.com (Steve Alexander)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 20:09:31 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] EP 2007 dates: Mon 9 July -> Wed 11 July
Message-ID: <44FDAF4B.7080802@canonical.com>

Today, after some positive discussion on this mailing list over the past
few days, the EuroPython Board voted in favour of the proposed dates for
EuroPython 2007.

EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9 July
to Wednesday 11 July, with Programmers of Vilnius as the organising team.

My thanks to everyone who participated in the discussion, and thanks to
POV for agreeing to organise the next conference.

Next steps?  Someone should update the website with the dates.  Is there
anywhere else we should publicise the dates?

-- 
Steve Alexander

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Tue Sep  5 19:34:25 2006
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 19:34:25 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EP 2007 dates: Mon 9 July -> Wed 11 July
In-Reply-To: <44FDAF4B.7080802@canonical.com>
References: <44FDAF4B.7080802@canonical.com>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0609051034k562c2fcbweff530a9cb23d954@mail.gmail.com>

I suggest someone spam all the attendees of EP 2006. If nobody objects, I
can do it. Guess they are meanwhile used to get these kind of mails from me
:)

Harald


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From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be  Tue Sep  5 23:49:59 2006
From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2006 23:49:59 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EP 2007 dates: Mon 9 July -> Wed 11 July
In-Reply-To: <44FDAF4B.7080802@canonical.com>
References: <44FDAF4B.7080802@canonical.com>
Message-ID: <44FDF107.4040801@ael.be>

Steve Alexander a ?crit :
> Today, after some positive discussion on this mailing list over the past
> few days, the EuroPython Board voted in favour of the proposed dates for
> EuroPython 2007.

thanks for this fast decision that helps us get organized.

> EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9 July
> to Wednesday 11 July, with Programmers of Vilnius as the organising team.

thanks again to POV.

In order to help, I would like to gather the documents that could help 
to ask for financial support from some official organizations or 
companies. I am thinking to known users of Python like Google that 
showed up at EP2006 but also at other potential supporter like some of 
our national bodies or the European COmmission or Nato or ...)

I know that to ask for support from EC, we should start to ask at least 
one year in advance but if we could show a well done document already it 
could help. As I am in Brussels, I volunteer to go personnally and 
discuss the case with the local people from EC and if possible Nato (I 
know Nato sponsors some conferences too)

This work could be done in a discrete part of the wiki (not publically 
accessible I mean but restricted to the volunteers of EP2007)

> Next steps?  Someone should update the website with the dates.  Is there
> anywhere else we should publicise the dates?

Please do so as soon as possible on europython.org

Who as write access to the europython.org site ?

Now, shouldn't the info that was specific to EP2006 be properly archived 
yet be accessible to users (I did get some presentations recently and 
appreciated it) and let the space open to EP2007, while also letting in 
place the info that could be reused for EP2007 ?

A question was raised about the usage and potential setup of the CERN 
conference management system. Shouldn't this be finalized ? Can we / do 
we want to use the CERN facility ? Is there any available server if not 
? Who volunteers to do the install ? ...

Thanks,

Nicolas

From mwh at python.net  Wed Sep  6 12:11:12 2006
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2006 11:11:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EP 2007 dates: Mon 9 July -> Wed 11 July
In-Reply-To: <44FDF107.4040801@ael.be> (Nicolas Pettiaux's message of "Tue,
	05 Sep 2006 23:49:59 +0200")
References: <44FDAF4B.7080802@canonical.com> <44FDF107.4040801@ael.be>
Message-ID: <2md5a9nw3j.fsf@starship.python.net>

Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be> writes:

>> Next steps?  Someone should update the website with the dates.  Is there
>> anywhere else we should publicise the dates?
>
> Please do so as soon as possible on europython.org

I've minimally done this.

Can someone come up with a nice picture of Vilnius to replace the
picture of the globe I just deleted?

> Who as write access to the europython.org site ?

I do, Dario, Jean-Marc and Paul do, some others must as well.  Do you
want to be able to? :-)

> Now, shouldn't the info that was specific to EP2006 be properly archived 
> yet be accessible to users (I did get some presentations recently and 
> appreciated it) and let the space open to EP2007, while also letting in 
> place the info that could be reused for EP2007 ?

That would be nice, yes.

> A question was raised about the usage and potential setup of the CERN 
> conference management system. Shouldn't this be finalized ?

It's not _mega_ urgent, but it would be nice, yes.

> Can we / do we want to use the CERN facility ? 

There seemed to be consensus that we want our own install.

> Is there any available server if not ?

I think we could use python.net if needed.

> Who volunteers to do the install ? ...

I guess I can, but I would rather someone else did, to be honest :-)

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  "declare"?  my bogometer indicates that you're really programming
  in some other language and trying to force Common Lisp into your
  mindset.  this won't work.            -- Erik Naggum, comp.lang.lisp

From phil at mediflex.net.au  Sun Sep 10 07:21:54 2006
From: phil at mediflex.net.au (Phil Kirby)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:21:54 +1000
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007
Message-ID: <000f01c6d499$09cc0c10$0c01a8c0@KSBS.local>

Greetings from Downunder,

I have just come across Python after many years of development in DataFlex. I see a lot of potential in this language, but know nothing about it. I was wondering if the EuroPython conference in Lithuania next year would give a complete novice in Python any opportunity to learn some basics, or is it targetted at the experienced Python user ?

I look forward to your response,

Kind Regards
Phil Kirby
Australia
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From mwh at python.net  Sun Sep 10 13:45:40 2006
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 12:45:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007
In-Reply-To: <000f01c6d499$09cc0c10$0c01a8c0@KSBS.local> (Phil Kirby's
	message of "Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:21:54 +1000")
References: <000f01c6d499$09cc0c10$0c01a8c0@KSBS.local>
Message-ID: <2mwt8clzbv.fsf@starship.python.net>

"Phil Kirby" <phil at mediflex.net.au> writes:

> Greetings from Downunder,
>  
> I have just come across Python after many years of development in
> DataFlex. I see a lot of potential in this language, but know nothing
> about it. I was wondering if the EuroPython conference in Lithuania next
> year would give a complete novice in Python any opportunity to learn some
> basics, or is it targetted at the experienced Python user ?

I would certainly be nice to have beginner friendly tutorials, though
of course they require organization.  As Program Chair, I guess it's
my responsibility, but it's not really something I have the expertise
to do myself.  So: anyone else out there want to work on a newbies
track?

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  If comp.lang.lisp *is* what vendors are relying on to make or 
  break Lisp sales, that's more likely the problem than is the 
  effect of any one of us on such a flimsy marketing strategy...
                                      -- Kent M Pitman, comp.lang.lisp

From jakub.piotr.nowak at gmail.com  Sun Sep 17 11:52:37 2006
From: jakub.piotr.nowak at gmail.com (Jakub Piotr Nowak)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 11:52:37 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] RuPy Conference
Message-ID: <ef6d2d8a0609170252i257a6b82gb87d49480a3204da@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am writing to you to ask for your help with organising a Python & Ruby
Conference which will be held in Poland.

We don't have a good contact with the community yet, but we would like
to provide high class speakers for our event. We are convinced
that this can enlarge the knowledge about Python & Ruby and also
contribute to the better understanding of these languages in Poland
and in Eastern Europe.

I would like to ask for your help with finding people in Europe who would be
willing to come to Poland and share with us their experience and
knowledge about Python.

Details about our conference are here:
http://rupy.wmid.amu.edu.pl

Best regards,
-- 
Jakub P. Nowak

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Sun Sep 17 14:03:12 2006
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2006 14:03:12 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Connecting with RuPy Conference ?
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0609170503u7a339e2aw8319ab31ca58017c@mail.gmail.com>

Dear EuroPythonistas,

I think we all read the very polite and friendly request of Jakub Piotr
Nowak for help with organizing a Pyhon and Ruby conference.

Being involved with EuroPython since around 3 years, I am really admiring
their effort.

On the other hand I am asking myself if we really can afford 2 European
Python conferences - EuroPython has a fair sized followership of around 300
participants every year; that's not that big a market to fuel another
conference.

So I want to ask fellow EuroPythonistas: Is it thinkable that we invite the
people from http://rupy.wmid.amu.edu.pl to join us in organizing EP 2007 in
Vilnius; with having the possibility of making EP 2008 happen in Poland?

That could be a win-win situation:
- we can share our knowledge of organizing an European Dynamic Language
conference (all the stuff we learned about schedules, tracks, invitations,
early and other birds, meals and snacks)
- we avoid having two similar conferences competing for speakers, sponsors
and participants
- we provide a connection to a quite intense communitie
- EuroPython could gain an even longer perspective on its venues

So, what do you think? may this be a possible start of negotiations?

Harald


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From faassen at infrae.com  Thu Sep 21 18:36:43 2006
From: faassen at infrae.com (Martijn Faassen)
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 18:36:43 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Connecting with RuPy Conference ?
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Harald Armin Massa wrote:
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> On the other hand I am asking myself if we really can afford 2 European
> Python conferences - EuroPython has a fair sized followership of around 300
> participants every year; that's not that big a market to fuel another
> conference.

I think we should see RuPy as a more local conference. There is room 
enough for local events. I'd be nice if they could announce EuroPython 
to their attendees so, as it's in the neighborhood next year.

> So I want to ask fellow EuroPythonistas: Is it thinkable that we invite the
> people from http://rupy.wmid.amu.edu.pl to join us in organizing EP 2007 in
> Vilnius; with having the possibility of making EP 2008 happen in Poland?

I think they're already are set to go; they announced the whole thing 
and so on. Asking them to stop doesn't sound ideal. But perhaps we can 
still benefit from the energy they'll generate in the region.

Regards,

Martijn

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