From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be  Thu Feb  1 21:15:31 2007
From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2007 21:15:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Help us to contribute to the Belgian wiki on open
	standards
Message-ID: <f89206d80702011215o1c1bcb01t4b7325f5ee6844b1@mail.gmail.com>

Belgium has opened a public wiki on
http://www.belgif.be/index.php/Accueil where everyone can contribute
to the formats, hopefully open, that Belgian administrations  could or
would be supposed to use.

This has been opened in order to have as many inputs from as many
interested parties, especially the knoledgeable public and the free
software community that has build so many standards in an open way.

Today, there has not been that many open participation, probably due
to the lack of public awareness of the initiative.

You probably know that there are active discussions, not to say
disputes about formats, and that this has a profound impact on
interoperability, new tools adoption, not to say free softwares.

I therefore wish with this mail to invite you and others to
participate and spread the information, and help us justify this open
way of inviting the public to take part in a process that is usually
reserved to a rather close circle.

Provided you can write in English, French or Dutch, coming from any
country, any culture, you are welcome to participate, but please
register on the mediawiki. Only the participation of many will help us
in Belgium to continue and support this initiative.

Tank you very much to spread this information around .

Nicolas Pettiaux
--
Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be

From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be  Sun Feb  4 22:07:15 2007
From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:07:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EP website and tools : replacing CPS by Plone
In-Reply-To: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f89206d80702041307m806cd5erd79cef0578365efb@mail.gmail.com>

2007/1/19, Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be>:
> A question I raise:
Dear all

I do not read any reactions on my mail.

I have received an account on the current EP website run with CPS
(that is not actively developped anymore by its initial developpers !)
to change the pages and adapt them, but ...
I can hardly do what I want because I do have many troubles with CPS
that does not present the users with pages that look similar to the
ones seen by the visitors. So it would take me very much energy and
time.

As CPS is not actively developped anymore, its successor is *not* in
python, I will not invest much more time, and I am sad of this
situation that does not allow me to work on EP as I would like.

What do you think ?

I would also like to know how much time and work it would involve to
change the EB website from CPS to plone, but if the new site is done
with plone now, as we are starting the current site, it will take much
less energy than if we do it later.

Thanks for your comments,

Nicolas


>
> on top of the fact that I do not know CPS at all but rather Plone as a
> CMS, and have some trouble getting the needed access, I notice that
> the Europython website runs on CPS, a tools once competing in the
> zope/python world with Plone but not anymore since Nuxeo has decided
> to drop it as well as python to go for java, I suggest that we
> consider, now that this should not be too difficult has the EP website
> should not be too populated with content, moving from CPS to Plone.
>
> I do also know more people in the community who could provide some
> technical help with plone than with CPS.
>
> WHat do you think ?
>
> THanks,
>
> Nicolas
>
> --
> Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be
>


-- 
Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Sun Feb  4 22:29:12 2007
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2007 22:29:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EP website and tools : replacing CPS by Plone
In-Reply-To: <f89206d80702041307m806cd5erd79cef0578365efb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>
	<f89206d80702041307m806cd5erd79cef0578365efb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0702041329m5dffdfb5ud3fc76d8d97aac57@mail.gmail.com>

My recommendation for this matter is:

Somebody should stepp forward and write:

"I will do the website and be responsible for it"

If you will be that, Nicolas, so it will be your decision which tools you
want to use.
Be it Plone, Cherrypy, Appleby, Quixote, Twisted, Whatever, Dojo, Mojo,
Mochi,
SimpleHTTPServer.
I do not recommend to chose Oracle Application Server, but, if they would
pay us 20e6 Mio, why not.

I really do NOT recommend that we discuss in great length which tool to use
... if we learn that the tool is good, we can use it next year also, if it
sucks, we change.

Can we agree on this way of deciding? The one who does the job decides the
tool.

To give energy: if nobody objects within the next 7 days, go on like this,
Nicloas :)

Harald




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From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Mon Feb  5 09:57:27 2007
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:57:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EP website and tools : replacing CPS by Plone
In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0702041329m5dffdfb5ud3fc76d8d97aac57@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>	<f89206d80702041307m806cd5erd79cef0578365efb@mail.gmail.com>
	<7be3f35d0702041329m5dffdfb5ud3fc76d8d97aac57@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45C6F177.8050700@ita.chalmers.se>

Harald Armin Massa said the following on 02/04/2007 10:29 PM:
> 
> I really do NOT recommend that we discuss in great length which tool to
> use ... if we learn that the tool is good, we can use it next year also,
> if it sucks, we change.

hear, hear, we've had this discussion before, and all that has happened
is a lot of stomach ache, so I vote for Harald's suggestions

> Can we agree on this way of deciding? The one who does the job decides
> the tool.

+1

> To give energy: if nobody objects within the next 7 days, go on like
> this, Nicloas :)

+1

/dario
-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
Lyrics applied to programming & application design:
"emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley

## Never attribute to malice what can
                           adequately be explained by incompetence. ##


From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Mon Feb  5 09:59:06 2007
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 09:59:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EP website and tools : replacing CPS by Plone
In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0702041329m5dffdfb5ud3fc76d8d97aac57@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>	<f89206d80702041307m806cd5erd79cef0578365efb@mail.gmail.com>
	<7be3f35d0702041329m5dffdfb5ud3fc76d8d97aac57@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <45C6F1DA.3020308@ita.chalmers.se>

I forgot:

if we choose any zope-based solution, I *really* would like to discuss
with amaze the possibility of using ZEO as the backend, it will make all
of our lives so much easier...

/dario


-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
Lyrics applied to programming & application design:
"emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley

## Never attribute to malice what can
                           adequately be explained by incompetence. ##


From mwh at python.net  Mon Feb  5 10:46:10 2007
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:46:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EP website and tools : replacing CPS by Plone
In-Reply-To: <45C6F177.8050700@ita.chalmers.se> (Dario =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lope?=
	=?iso-8859-1?Q?z-K=E4sten's?= message of "Mon,
	05 Feb 2007 09:57:27 +0100")
References: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>
	<f89206d80702041307m806cd5erd79cef0578365efb@mail.gmail.com>
	<7be3f35d0702041329m5dffdfb5ud3fc76d8d97aac57@mail.gmail.com>
	<45C6F177.8050700@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <87tzy1szrx.fsf@starship.python.net>

Dario Lopez-K?sten <dario at ita.chalmers.se> writes:

> Harald Armin Massa said the following on 02/04/2007 10:29 PM:
>> 
>> I really do NOT recommend that we discuss in great length which tool to
>> use ... if we learn that the tool is good, we can use it next year also,
>> if it sucks, we change.
>
> hear, hear, we've had this discussion before, and all that has happened
> is a lot of stomach ache, so I vote for Harald's suggestions

+1

>> Can we agree on this way of deciding? The one who does the job decides
>> the tool.
>
> +1

+1

>> To give energy: if nobody objects within the next 7 days, go on like
>> this, Nicloas :)
>
> +1

+1

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  <xyld> what proportion of Swedes speak english?
  <bea> xyld: all those with teeth

From aiste at pov.lt  Mon Feb  5 11:04:27 2007
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 12:04:27 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EP website and tools : replacing CPS by Plone
In-Reply-To: <87tzy1szrx.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>
	<f89206d80702041307m806cd5erd79cef0578365efb@mail.gmail.com>
	<7be3f35d0702041329m5dffdfb5ud3fc76d8d97aac57@mail.gmail.com>
	<45C6F177.8050700@ita.chalmers.se>
	<87tzy1szrx.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <20070205100425.GD5828@lucky>

mwh at python.net
> Dario Lopez-K?sten <dario at ita.chalmers.se> writes:
> 
> > Harald Armin Massa said the following on 02/04/2007 10:29 PM:
> >> 
> >> I really do NOT recommend that we discuss in great length which tool to
> >> use ... if we learn that the tool is good, we can use it next year also,
> >> if it sucks, we change.
> >
> > hear, hear, we've had this discussion before, and all that has happened
> > is a lot of stomach ache, so I vote for Harald's suggestions
> 
> +1

A big +1, I hope this does not develop into anothre time-wasting
disscussion.

And +1 to both Harald's suggestions.

-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt

From jacob at strakt.com  Mon Feb  5 11:31:06 2007
From: jacob at strakt.com (Jacob =?iso-8859-1?q?Hall=E9n?=)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 11:31:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EP website and tools : replacing CPS by Plone
In-Reply-To: <20070205100425.GD5828@lucky>
References: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>
	<87tzy1szrx.fsf@starship.python.net> <20070205100425.GD5828@lucky>
Message-ID: <200702051131.06574.jacob@strakt.com>

m?ndag 05 februari 2007 11:04 skrev Aiste Kesminaite:
> mwh at python.net
>
> > Dario Lopez-K?sten <dario at ita.chalmers.se> writes:
> > > Harald Armin Massa said the following on 02/04/2007 10:29 PM:
> > >> I really do NOT recommend that we discuss in great length which tool
> > >> to use ... if we learn that the tool is good, we can use it next year
> > >> also, if it sucks, we change.
> > >
> > > hear, hear, we've had this discussion before, and all that has happened
> > > is a lot of stomach ache, so I vote for Harald's suggestions
> >
> > +1
>
> A big +1, I hope this does not develop into anothre time-wasting
> disscussion.
>
> And +1 to both Harald's suggestions.

On a general note, shouldn't you call a meeting, so that you can find out who 
the people who are willing to work on making Europython are, and then form an 
organisation committee with assigned jobs and stuff. Otherwise you are likely 
to end up with all the jobs yourself, and with time pressure on top of that.

Jacob

From matthew.bull at telemedicsystems.com  Mon Feb  5 11:50:40 2007
From: matthew.bull at telemedicsystems.com (Matthew Bull)
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:50:40 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EP website and tools : replacing CPS by Plone
In-Reply-To: <f89206d80702041307m806cd5erd79cef0578365efb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>
	<f89206d80702041307m806cd5erd79cef0578365efb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1170672640.5196.20.camel@athena>

Dear All,

I'll pitch in here, the thing the always stopped me from offering to
help with the website was the need to learn / battle with CPS, I have
neither the time nor the mindspace to learn yet another CMS, but take it
to Plone and I'll help....

Matt

On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 22:07 +0100, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote:
> 2007/1/19, Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be>:
> > A question I raise:
> Dear all
> 
> I do not read any reactions on my mail.
> 
> I have received an account on the current EP website run with CPS
> (that is not actively developped anymore by its initial developpers !)
> to change the pages and adapt them, but ...
> I can hardly do what I want because I do have many troubles with CPS
> that does not present the users with pages that look similar to the
> ones seen by the visitors. So it would take me very much energy and
> time.
> 
> As CPS is not actively developped anymore, its successor is *not* in
> python, I will not invest much more time, and I am sad of this
> situation that does not allow me to work on EP as I would like.
> 
> What do you think ?
> 
> I would also like to know how much time and work it would involve to
> change the EB website from CPS to plone, but if the new site is done
> with plone now, as we are starting the current site, it will take much
> less energy than if we do it later.
> 
> Thanks for your comments,
> 
> Nicolas
> 
> 
> >
> > on top of the fact that I do not know CPS at all but rather Plone as a
> > CMS, and have some trouble getting the needed access, I notice that
> > the Europython website runs on CPS, a tools once competing in the
> > zope/python world with Plone but not anymore since Nuxeo has decided
> > to drop it as well as python to go for java, I suggest that we
> > consider, now that this should not be too difficult has the EP website
> > should not be too populated with content, moving from CPS to Plone.
> >
> > I do also know more people in the community who could provide some
> > technical help with plone than with CPS.
> >
> > WHat do you think ?
> >
> > THanks,
> >
> > Nicolas
> >
> > --
> > Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be
> >
> 
> 

From dario at ita.chalmers.se  Mon Feb  5 14:00:47 2007
From: dario at ita.chalmers.se (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 14:00:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC meeting.
In-Reply-To: <200702051131.06574.jacob@strakt.com>
References: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>	<87tzy1szrx.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<20070205100425.GD5828@lucky> <200702051131.06574.jacob@strakt.com>
Message-ID: <45C72A7F.8010000@ita.chalmers.se>

Jacob Hall?n said the following on 02/05/2007 11:31 AM:
> m?ndag 05 februari 2007 11:04 skrev Aiste Kesminaite:
>> mwh at python.net
>>
>>> Dario Lopez-K?sten <dario at ita.chalmers.se> writes:
>>>> Harald Armin Massa said the following on 02/04/2007 10:29 PM:
>>>>> I really do NOT recommend that we discuss in great length which tool
>>>>> to use ... if we learn that the tool is good, we can use it next year
>>>>> also, if it sucks, we change.
>>>> hear, hear, we've had this discussion before, and all that has happened
>>>> is a lot of stomach ache, so I vote for Harald's suggestions
>>> +1
>> A big +1, I hope this does not develop into anothre time-wasting
>> disscussion.
>>
>> And +1 to both Harald's suggestions.
> 
> On a general note, shouldn't you call a meeting, so that you can find out who 
> the people who are willing to work on making Europython are, and then form an 
> organisation committee with assigned jobs and stuff. Otherwise you are likely 
> to end up with all the jobs yourself, and with time pressure on top of that.
> 

I think we have had this already, on the last europython, with some of
the more active ones on the mailing list chiming in to offer.

that said, perhaps a general meeting is in order. We also need to have
an annual meeting soo, i need to have the official address changed of
the society, and be able to communicate with the bank more freely.

/dario

-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
Lyrics applied to programming & application design:
"emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley

## Never attribute to malice what can
                           adequately be explained by incompetence. ##


From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be  Mon Feb  5 16:47:34 2007
From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 16:47:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EP website and tools : replacing CPS by Plone
In-Reply-To: <45C6F1DA.3020308@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>
	<f89206d80702041307m806cd5erd79cef0578365efb@mail.gmail.com>
	<7be3f35d0702041329m5dffdfb5ud3fc76d8d97aac57@mail.gmail.com>
	<45C6F1DA.3020308@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <f89206d80702050747u4872c3edj70429b6490ed7845@mail.gmail.com>

2007/2/5, Dario Lopez-K?sten <dario at ita.chalmers.se>:

> if we choose any zope-based solution, I *really* would like to discuss
> with amaze the possibility of using ZEO as the backend, it will make all
> of our lives so much easier...

good point.

Could please remind me of their email and name so  can get in touch
asap and arrange the setup of the plone solution that I propose ?

One person already offered some time and contrbiution if we switch to plone.

Are there others as I cannot assume the whole work of contributing to
the website and the technical work.

Thanks,

Nicolas

-- 
Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be

From mwh at python.net  Wed Feb  7 17:25:50 2007
From: mwh at python.net (Michael Hudson)
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:25:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC meeting.
In-Reply-To: <45C72A7F.8010000@ita.chalmers.se> (Dario =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lope?=
	=?iso-8859-1?Q?z-K=E4sten's?= message of "Mon,
	05 Feb 2007 14:00:47 +0100")
References: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>
	<87tzy1szrx.fsf@starship.python.net> <20070205100425.GD5828@lucky>
	<200702051131.06574.jacob@strakt.com>
	<45C72A7F.8010000@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <877iuuszn5.fsf@starship.python.net>

Dario Lopez-K?sten <dario at ita.chalmers.se> writes:

> that said, perhaps a general meeting is in order. We also need to have
> an annual meeting soo, i need to have the official address changed of
> the society, and be able to communicate with the bank more freely.

Sigh sigh sigh.  When can we do this?  I think we have to give two
weeks notice, so that puts us after PyCon at the very least.  How
about the 7th of March?

Sorry for the lack of motion on my part, 2007 has been anything but
fun so far (for reasons nothing to do with EuroPython, or Python for
that matter).

Cheers,
mwh

-- 
  I would hereby duly point you at the website for the current pedal
  powered submarine world underwater speed record, except I've lost
  the URL.                                         -- Callas, cam.misc

From steve at canonical.com  Wed Feb  7 17:30:37 2007
From: steve at canonical.com (Steve Alexander)
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 17:30:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EPC meeting.
In-Reply-To: <877iuuszn5.fsf@starship.python.net>
References: <f89206d80701190630t47bca4b4w872d60b158d103db@mail.gmail.com>	<87tzy1szrx.fsf@starship.python.net>
	<20070205100425.GD5828@lucky>	<200702051131.06574.jacob@strakt.com>	<45C72A7F.8010000@ita.chalmers.se>
	<877iuuszn5.fsf@starship.python.net>
Message-ID: <45C9FEAD.8060008@canonical.com>

Michael Hudson wrote:
> Dario Lopez-K?sten <dario at ita.chalmers.se> writes:
> 
>> that said, perhaps a general meeting is in order. We also need to have
>> an annual meeting soo, i need to have the official address changed of
>> the society, and be able to communicate with the bank more freely.
> 
> Sigh sigh sigh.  When can we do this?  I think we have to give two
> weeks notice, so that puts us after PyCon at the very least.  How
> about the 7th of March?

So, let's give two weeks' notice predated to two weeks before PyCon.
This is only bureaucracy, so we can bend the rules if it leads to stuff
getting done.

I'm sure the PyCon organisers will allow us to use a room for a
EuroPython meeting if people will be there.  I'll be at PyCon, so
available for discussions of EuroPython.

-- 
Steve Alexander

From t.zito at biologie.hu-berlin.de  Thu Feb  8 14:10:51 2007
From: t.zito at biologie.hu-berlin.de (Tiziano Zito)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 14:10:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] previous years conferences archive?
Message-ID: <20070208131050.GA19121@lotka.biologie.hu-berlin.de>

Dear Europython organizers, I enjoyed very much the last two 
conferences and I hope to attend the next conference in Vilnius!

My question is: do we have an archive for the old europython
conferences? Right now I can browse through the talks of the
conference in Geneva from the www.europython.org site, but that, I
guess, is going to change pretty soon. What about the conferences in
Gothenburg, are the slides still available somewhere?

thank you very much!

 Tiziano Zito
 Institute for Theoretical Biology
 Humboldt-Universitaet zu Berlin  
 Invalidenstrasse, 43
 D-10115 Berlin, Germany
 
 http://itb.biologie.hu-berlin.de/~zito/
 
 room: 1306
 phone: +49 30 2093-8630
 fax:   +49 30 2093-8801


From jmo at ita.chalmers.se  Thu Feb  8 15:24:16 2007
From: jmo at ita.chalmers.se (Jean-Marc Orliaguet)
Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2007 15:24:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] previous years conferences archive?
In-Reply-To: <20070208131050.GA19121@lotka.biologie.hu-berlin.de>
References: <20070208131050.GA19121@lotka.biologie.hu-berlin.de>
Message-ID: <45CB3290.5070605@ita.chalmers.se>

Tiziano Zito wrote:
> Dear Europython organizers, I enjoyed very much the last two 
> conferences and I hope to attend the next conference in Vilnius!
>
> My question is: do we have an archive for the old europython
> conferences? Right now I can browse through the talks of the
> conference in Geneva from the www.europython.org site, but that, I
> guess, is going to change pretty soon. What about the conferences in
> Gothenburg, are the slides still available somewhere?
>
> thank you very much!
>   

Hi, you should look at the python.org's wiki
http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython

the europython.org site is not archived.

regards
/JM

>  Tiziano Zito
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From reinoud.v at n.leeuwen.net  Thu Feb  8 15:45:02 2007
From: reinoud.v at n.leeuwen.net (Reinoud van Leeuwen)
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 15:45:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] previous years conferences archive?
In-Reply-To: <45CB3290.5070605@ita.chalmers.se>
References: <20070208131050.GA19121@lotka.biologie.hu-berlin.de>
	<45CB3290.5070605@ita.chalmers.se>
Message-ID: <20070208144502.GX677@spoetnik.xs4all.nl>

On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 03:24:16PM +0100, Jean-Marc Orliaguet wrote:

> the europython.org site is not archived.

Yes it is: http://web.archive.org/web/*/europython.org

-- 
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"Nothing is as subjective as reality"
Reinoud van Leeuwen    reinoud.v at n.leeuwen.net
http://www.xs4all.nl/~reinoud
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From ricardokirkner at gmail.com  Wed Feb 14 14:42:41 2007
From: ricardokirkner at gmail.com (Ricardo Kirkner)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:42:41 -0300
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007
Message-ID: <45D311D1.5070207@gmail.com>

Hello:

I just wanted to ask you if you have some estimate about when the 
EuroPython 2007 conference will be open for registration. I am planning 
a trip to europe and I would like to attend to the conference.

Thank you,

With regards,

Ricardo Kirkner

From ofod at butterflybuckles.com  Wed Feb 14 22:55:50 2007
From: ofod at butterflybuckles.com (Rita)
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 21:55:50 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] classify inflammation
Message-ID: <45D38566.1090301@bhwcomponents.co.uk>

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From tennessee at tennessee.id.au  Tue Feb 20 05:55:06 2007
From: tennessee at tennessee.id.au (Tennessee Leeuwenburg)
Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2007 15:55:06 +1100
Subject: [EuroPython] The Python Papers and EuroPython 2007
Message-ID: <43c8685c0702192055y12e2d796m13f10f003cf6254d@mail.gmail.com>

To whom it may concern,

I am the editor-in-chief of The Python Papers (http://pythonpapers.org), a
Python magazine created by a noncommercial group of enthusiasts. I am
currently contacting various conference organisers about the possibilities
of collaboration. Our next edition is due out in May, which is a little
before EuroPython 2007 is scheduled for.

I thought you might like to contribute an article covering the event to let
people know more about it. It would also be good to include any information
about last years' event, some selected photos etc.

Additionally, in our next edition we will be including a review of python
papers and articles published in the last year. Where we have access to
conference proceedings, we will try to select a few articles for inclusion
in this effort. Going forward, it would be great to have people nominate and
vote for favourite articles. I was unable to find the proceedings of
EuroPython 2006. Would it be possible to have access to this?

The PyCon committee has also graciously sponsored some bag inserts
advertising the Python Papers to attendees. Would something similar be
possible for EuroPython 2007?

Yours Sincerely,
-Tennessee Leeuwenburg
(Editor-In-Chief, The Python Papers)
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From qlr at dreaming.ru  Sun Feb 25 23:33:51 2007
From: qlr at dreaming.ru (Fred V. Shirley)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2007 17:33:51 -0500
Subject: [EuroPython] 2 or GlassFish is installed.
Message-ID: <001501c7592d$42232b70$e0b0b4dd@idp>


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From micahel at gmail.com  Wed Feb 28 17:39:33 2007
From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:39:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] moving forward -- IRC meeting 7th March?
Message-ID: <aa0dfd860702280839s377275bfn60c5eece3a945f11@mail.gmail.com>

As the days and weeks tick by, EuroPython approaches.

I'm at a PyPy sprint and Bea D?ring and I have been talking about organizing
the programme -- what tracks are we going to have, who is going to run them,
and perhaps most importantly fixing some kind of timeline -- when are we
going to send out a CFP?  what deadline will it have for proposals?

As such, we think we should have a meeting in #europython on freenode on
Wednesday the 7th of March at 18:00 central european time.

People shouldn't wait until then to say that they are interested in chairing
a track though :-)  Getting some kind of discussion going here would hardly
be a bad thing... for instance, what tracks should we have this year?

Cheers,
mwh (& Bea)
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From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be  Wed Feb 28 21:24:56 2007
From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:24:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] moving forward -- IRC meeting 7th March?
In-Reply-To: <aa0dfd860702280839s377275bfn60c5eece3a945f11@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aa0dfd860702280839s377275bfn60c5eece3a945f11@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f89206d80702281224y3504edeahbb20266772fe41a6@mail.gmail.com>

2007/2/28, Michael Hudson <micahel at gmail.com>:
> As the days and weeks tick by, EuroPython approaches.

yes, it does. I am happy to see other people who consider that it is
time to move on.
> I'm at a PyPy sprint and Bea D?ring and I have been talking about organizing
> the programme -- what tracks are we going to have, who is going to run them,
> and perhaps most importantly fixing some kind of timeline -- when are we
> going to send out a CFP?  what deadline will it have for proposals?

please come with the proposal that you discussed, and that I am
persuaded will be a good basis for further discussions.

> As such, we think we should have a meeting in #europython on freenode on
> Wednesday the 7th of March at 18:00 central european time.

I'll make my best to attend and participate.

> People shouldn't wait until then to say that they are interested in chairing
> a track though :-)

As I am most interested in education activities, I am volunteering to
chair the Education track. together with Laura Creighton who was in
charge the previous years, if she accepts.

> Getting some kind of discussion going here would hardly
> be a bad thing... for instance, what tracks should we have this year?

I think a good proposal would be to go with the same as last year,
provided the chair people show up to make them happen.

Nicolas
-- 
Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be

From paul at boddie.org.uk  Wed Feb 28 20:42:29 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:42:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] moving forward -- IRC meeting 7th March?
In-Reply-To: <aa0dfd860702280839s377275bfn60c5eece3a945f11@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aa0dfd860702280839s377275bfn60c5eece3a945f11@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200702282042.29826.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Wednesday 28 February 2007 17:39, Michael Hudson wrote:
> As the days and weeks tick by, EuroPython approaches.
>
> I'm at a PyPy sprint and Bea D?ring and I have been talking about
> organizing the programme -- what tracks are we going to have, who is going
> to run them, and perhaps most importantly fixing some kind of timeline --
> when are we going to send out a CFP?  what deadline will it have for
> proposals?

I think we really need to establish and publish a timeline. As was noted last 
year, there's a lot of stuff which can happily go on in parallel with the 
organisation of the local details, and people need help in deciding whether 
they're going to be doing a talk, how long they have to prepare for it, how 
long they can hold off before registering, and so on (hoping that we don't 
get a lot of warmed up talks from PyCon, incidentally).

> As such, we think we should have a meeting in #europython on freenode on
> Wednesday the 7th of March at 18:00 central european time.

That wouldn't fit in with my schedule, but I'd gladly volunteer to be a 
general Web monkey like last year, especially if it dampens down the debate 
about which Web publishing solution gets used.

Paul