From npinhao at netvisao.pt  Sun Jul  1 11:55:16 2007
From: npinhao at netvisao.pt (Nuno Rombert Pinhao)
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 10:55:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 - Paper: "plasmakin.py - A Python
	extension module..."
Message-ID: <200707011055.17093.npinhao@netvisao.pt>

Dear colleagues,

With my apologies for the slight delay, please find attached the pdf file of 
my contribution.
I have not found any instructions on to whom to send the paper. If this is not 
the correct address please forward the mail or send me the correct address.

Best regards
Nuno Pinh?o
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From kirby.urner at gmail.com  Sun Jul  1 19:18:31 2007
From: kirby.urner at gmail.com (kirby urner)
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 10:18:31 -0700
Subject: [EuroPython] What's the weather like?
Message-ID: <f604188c0707011018s20cd37fah4e24597db28d1bc2@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, I could just check some web controls, but a person on the ground is
sometimes invaluable.  Like I have this leather coat with a sheep like
interior that'd be way uncomfortable most days in Portland, where it is
bright, dry and sunny, except the for occasion freakish dive into cold wind
and rain (rainforest ciimate, kinda Mediterrenean they say).

But enough about me and my native habitat.  What's it like in Vilnius these
days?  As a typical USAer, I'm mentally prepared to multply by 8/5 and add
32 or whatever it is, if you give me a temperature.

Kirby

From cyberthanasis at gmx.net  Mon Jul  2 09:27:06 2007
From: cyberthanasis at gmx.net (Thanasis Stamos)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:27:06 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] registration
Message-ID: <20070702072706.43160@gmx.net>

i would like to know if my regitration is ok.
registration payment have been made via bank transfer.

thank you in advance
thanasis stamos
-- 
GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS.
Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail

From aiste at pov.lt  Mon Jul  2 15:08:06 2007
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 16:08:06 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] projector system
In-Reply-To: <200706300842.l5U8g14e010421@theraft.openend.se>
References: <dd33050b0706290520o18c44e6fubd4147124708c591@mail.gmail.com>
	<200706300842.l5U8g14e010421@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <20070702130804.GA30048@lucky>

hi all,

> Only Aiste knows this one, and she is away all weekend.

Sorry, i have been away indeed.
There will be projectors in all rooms I do not know the resolution though.
Will find out tomorrow.

-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt

From mal at egenix.com  Mon Jul  2 15:40:08 2007
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 15:40:08 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Interest in a one-day business conference for Python,
 Zope and Plone companies ?
Message-ID: <46890038.7020004@egenix.com>

Hello,

eGenix is looking into organizing a one day conference
specifically for companies doing business with Python, Zope and
Plone. The conference will likely be held in or close to
D?sseldorf, Germany, which is lively medium-sized city, with good
airport connections world-wide and specifically to all major
European  cities, so it's easy getting there and ideal for a one
day event.

The focus of the conference is on networking, meeting people,
exchanging experience and exploring ways of working together.

We are aiming at having a small conference program with just a few
talks. The main intent of the presentations should be to initiate
discussions among the attendees.

Since this will be a business-only event, we will likely get
professional help from a conference organizer and also try to
sign up with a hotel to do all the catering, conference room
maintenance, etc.

My questions to you:

* Would there be interest in such a conference event ?
* How many people from your company would likely attend ?
* Would a weekday or weekend conference date be more attractive ?
* Does the focus suit your needs ?

We will be giving a short presentation of what we have in mind
at EuroPython 2007 in Vilnius in the context of the Open Space
sessions:

   http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2007OpenSpace

If you're interested, please contact us.

Thanks,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
eGenix.com

Professional Python Services directly from the Source  (#1, Jul 02 2007)
>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/
>>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ...        http://python.egenix.com/
________________________________________________________________________
2007-07-09: EuroPython 2007, Vilnius, Lithuania             6 days to go

:::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,MacOSX for free ! ::::


   eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH  Pastor-Loeh-Str.48
    D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg
           Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611

From tautvydas at m2.lt  Mon Jul  2 17:20:28 2007
From: tautvydas at m2.lt (Tautvydas Andrikys)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:20:28 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython registration questions
Message-ID: <468917BC.3000708@m2.lt>

Hello,

? I`ve registered to conference and I won`t be able to attend it all 3 
days, so can other colleque visit conference without registering separately

? Is it possible to do registration payments after July 2nd

I look forward to your reply.

-- 
Tautvydas Andrikys

UAB "M2 technologijos"
Laisv?s pr. 77B, Vilnius
Tel. +370 5 2462284
Faks. +370 5 2462285
Mob.: +370 671 52246
www.m2.lt <http://www.m2.lt>
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From steve at canonical.com  Mon Jul  2 18:11:45 2007
From: steve at canonical.com (Steve Alexander)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:11:45 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsorship
In-Reply-To: <AE82297213BFC94997859FA24B63616D4E27F5@be-ads01.beslist.local>
References: <AE82297213BFC94997859FA24B63616D4E27F5@be-ads01.beslist.local>
Message-ID: <468923C1.10304@canonical.com>

Hi Luuk,

This is Steve Alexander, a member of the EuroPython board.

Thanks for your interest in sponsoring EuroPython.  I'm curious as to
why you want to consider sponsoring this conference.  It's important
that our sponsors have some kind of link with the Python programming
language or user community.

I notice on your company's vacancies page that you use PHP and C#.  Do
you use Python too?  Will you be sending any delegates to the conference?

-- 
Steve Alexander


Luuk Kielen wrote:
> Hello people of Europython,
> 
> I was looking at your website and I saw the chapter about a sponsorship.
> We are interested in advertising and sponsoring on your website with a
> link to our site.
> Can you please give more information? Our website is www.beslist.nl
> <http://www.beslist.nl>.


From antoine.boegli at gmail.com  Mon Jul  2 18:13:47 2007
From: antoine.boegli at gmail.com (Antoine Boegli)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 18:13:47 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration ?
Message-ID: <fc757f920707020913r6c0aa265q6220886afbc79710@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I was trying to know if my registration had been registred, but I do not
know where to look.

Could you tell me if my payment has been received ?

I have registered on the 8 june.

-- 
Antoine Boegli
software engineer & linux expert
Avenue de France 38
1004 Lausanne
Switzerland
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From jkogut at genesilico.pl  Mon Jul  2 17:47:41 2007
From: jkogut at genesilico.pl (Jan Kogut)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:47:41 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration
Message-ID: <46891E1D.7070103@genesilico.pl>

Hello,

I would like to register as a student (University of Lodz and
International Institute of Molecular and Cell Biology).


Cheers,
Jan Kogut

-- 
Regards,

Jan Kogut
Computer Systems Administrator
Laboratory of Bioinformatics and Protein Engineering
International Institute of Molecular and Cell Biology

ul. Ks. Trojdena 4
02-109 Warsaw, Poland 
http://genesilico.pl


:.


From stefano at pragma2000.com  Mon Jul  2 18:30:42 2007
From: stefano at pragma2000.com (Stefano Masini)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 18:30:42 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Pragma 2000 sponsor
Message-ID: <1bdedd7a0707020930m25b9c47qc47d402b6f29036f@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

as usual I would like to be an advertising sponsor for Europython.
I don't remember though if I've already said it. Well, I do now. :)

Question 1: can you take the logo from last year's?

Question 2: can I pay at the desk rather than making a money transfer now?

Question 3: will it be possible to pay with credit card at the desk,
or will I need to carry cash?

thanks
stefano

From lac at openend.se  Mon Jul  2 18:50:58 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:50:58 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] status of my reservation
In-Reply-To: Message from "Grzegorz Slusarek" <gslusarek@gmail.com> of "Wed,
	20 Jun 2007 14:49:48 +0200."
	<5340a0e60706200549v41f9fe3xb675bd76e31b644b@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <5340a0e60706200549v41f9fe3xb675bd76e31b644b@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200707021650.l62GowxB019346@theraft.openend.se>


We have received your payment.  We are still writing invoices.
See you in Vilnius,

Laura Creighton

From rootof at gmail.com  Mon Jul  2 18:57:04 2007
From: rootof at gmail.com (Dmitrijus Bugelskis)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 19:57:04 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration ?
In-Reply-To: <fc757f920707020913r6c0aa265q6220886afbc79710@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fc757f920707020913r6c0aa265q6220886afbc79710@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070702195704.059038b0@localhost>

Same situation here.

I made money transfer (pay later) last wednesday, but still no confirmation whatsoever.
My registration id - c13919r192.

Good luck,
Dmitrijus Bugelskis

On Mon, 2 Jul 2007 18:13:47 +0200
"Antoine Boegli" <antoine.boegli at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I was trying to know if my registration had been registred, but I do not
> know where to look.
> 
> Could you tell me if my payment has been received ?
> 
> I have registered on the 8 june.
> 

From lac at openend.se  Mon Jul  2 19:08:37 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:08:37 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration ?
In-Reply-To: Message from Dmitrijus Bugelskis <rootof@gmail.com> of "Mon,
	02 Jul 2007 19:57:04 +0300." <20070702195704.059038b0@localhost> 
References: <fc757f920707020913r6c0aa265q6220886afbc79710@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070702195704.059038b0@localhost> 
Message-ID: <200707021708.l62H8bOP022005@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:57:04 +0300, Dmitrijus Bugelskis writes:
>Same situation here.
>
>I made money transfer (pay later) last wednesday, but still no confirmati
>on whatsoever.
>My registration id - c13919r192.
>
>Good luck,
>Dmitrijus Bugelskis

Normally, it is _your bank_ that tells you whether the payment went
through.  All I can do is wait for the statements from my bank and
check and see if your name is there.  It takes about a week before
the bank sends me the paper that says 'yes got a transfer'.  So I
will keep looking, but if I don't find you it is probably just because
it is too soon.

Laura Creighton

From lac at openend.se  Mon Jul  2 19:21:34 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:21:34 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython registration questions
In-Reply-To: Message from Tautvydas Andrikys <tautvydas@m2.lt> 
	of "Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:20:28 +0300." <468917BC.3000708@m2.lt> 
References: <468917BC.3000708@m2.lt> 
Message-ID: <200707021721.l62HLYVi024566@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:20:28 +0300, Tautvydas Andrikys writes:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>--------------060600050004060708090002
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
>Hello,
>
>? I`ve registered to conference and I won`t be able to attend it all 3 
>days, so can other colleque visit conference without registering separate
>ly

Only by special arrangement with us.  Talk to us at the conference.

>
>? Is it possible to do registration payments after July 2nd

Only in person at the conference.

>
>I look forward to your reply.
>
>-- 
>Tautvydas Andrikys
>
>UAB "M2 technologijos"
>Laisv??s pr. 77B, Vilnius
>Tel. +370 5 2462284
>Faks. +370 5 2462285
>Mob.: +370 671 52246
>www.m2.lt <http://www.m2.lt>
>
Laura

From lac at openend.se  Mon Jul  2 19:24:34 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:24:34 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration
In-Reply-To: Message from Jan Kogut <jkogut@genesilico.pl> 
	of "Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:47:41 +0200." <46891E1D.7070103@genesilico.pl> 
References: <46891E1D.7070103@genesilico.pl> 
Message-ID: <200707021724.l62HOYCG024679@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:47:41 +0200, Jan Kogut writes:
>Hello,
>
>I would like to register as a student (University of Lodz and
>International Institute of Molecular and Cell Biology).
>
>
>Cheers,
>Jan Kogut
>
>-- 
>Regards,
>
>Jan Kogut
>Computer Systems Administrator
>Laboratory of Bioinformatics and Protein Engineering
>International Institute of Molecular and Cell Biology
>
>ul. Ks. Trojdena 4
>02-109 Warsaw, Poland 
>http://genesilico.pl

Registration has  closed. You will have to pay at the door.

Laura Creighton


From lac at openend.se  Mon Jul  2 19:39:30 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:39:30 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration ?
In-Reply-To: Message from Dmitrijus Bugelskis <rootof@gmail.com> of "Mon,
	02 Jul 2007 19:57:04 +0300." <20070702195704.059038b0@localhost> 
References: <fc757f920707020913r6c0aa265q6220886afbc79710@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070702195704.059038b0@localhost> 
Message-ID: <200707021739.l62HdUMo027231@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:57:04 +0300, Dmitrijus Bugelskis writes:
>Same situation here.
>
>I made money transfer (pay later) last wednesday, but still no confirmati
>on whatsoever.
>My registration id - c13919r192.
>
>Good luck,
>Dmitrijus Bugelskis

Hah!  Found it.  You're paid up.

Laura Creighton

From lac at openend.se  Mon Jul  2 19:44:14 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:44:14 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] registration
In-Reply-To: Message from "Thanasis Stamos" <cyberthanasis@gmx.net> 
	of "Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:27:06 +0200." <20070702072706.43160@gmx.net> 
References: <20070702072706.43160@gmx.net> 
Message-ID: <200707021744.l62HiEV4028166@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Mon, 02 Jul 2007 09:27:06 +0200, "Thanasis Stamos" writes:
>i would like to know if my regitration is ok.
>registration payment have been made via bank transfer.
>
>thank you in advance
>thanasis stamos
>-- 
>GMX FreeMail: 1 GB Postfach, 5 E-Mail-Adressen, 10 Free SMS.
>Alle Infos und kostenlose Anmeldung: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freemail

It is fine.

Laura Creighton

From lac at openend.se  Mon Jul  2 22:03:22 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 22:03:22 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Problem with Somebody's registration.
Message-ID: <200707022003.l62K3MXb018926@theraft.openend.se>


I have received a 160 Euro payment from

UAB Programuotoju Artele
Sietakausko 30A-17
Vilnius Lietuva

The note with it says: for 168

But #168 is  Viktorija Zaksiene
who works for Programmers of Vilnius, and
who has already paid.

So does anybody know who the extra one is for?

Laura

From lac at openend.se  Mon Jul  2 22:51:41 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 22:51:41 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration ?
In-Reply-To: Message from "Antoine Boegli" <antoine.boegli@gmail.com> of "Mon,
	02 Jul 2007 18:13:47 +0200."
	<fc757f920707020913r6c0aa265q6220886afbc79710@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <fc757f920707020913r6c0aa265q6220886afbc79710@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200707022051.l62KpfBS027305@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Mon, 02 Jul 2007 18:13:47 +0200, "Antoine Boegli" writes:
>Hello,
>
>I was trying to know if my registration had been registred, but I do not
>know where to look.
>
>Could you tell me if my payment has been received ?
>
>I have registered on the 8 june.
>
>-- 
>Antoine Boegli
>software engineer & linux expert
>Avenue de France 38
>1004 Lausanne
>Switzerland

Unfortunately, there is no way for you to look; I have to do the looking.
You are registered, but we have no record of payment going through.
Did you pay by paypal or by wire transfer?

Laura Creighton


From micahel at gmail.com  Tue Jul  3 00:21:33 2007
From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson)
Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2007 23:21:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] session chairs
Message-ID: <aa0dfd860707021521lfced64eq3144a401dc694005@mail.gmail.com>

It's time (in fact it's rather overdue, sorry about that) to find
people to run sessions at the conference next week. I've made a wiki
page to try to allocate people to sessions:

http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2007SessionChairing

Running a session isn't that much work -- making sure you know who
your speakers are in the break before and stopping them from talking
for too long is the most of it.  Please feel free to sign up for a
session or more.

Cheers,
mwh

From aiste at pov.lt  Tue Jul  3 10:20:09 2007
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 11:20:09 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Problem with Somebody's registration.
In-Reply-To: <200707022003.l62K3MXb018926@theraft.openend.se>
References: <200707022003.l62K3MXb018926@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <20070703082009.GC30048@lucky>

> I have received a 160 Euro payment from
> 
> UAB Programuotoju Artele
> Sietakausko 30A-17
> Vilnius Lietuva
> 
> The note with it says: for 168
> 
> But #168 is  Viktorija Zaksiene
> who works for Programmers of Vilnius, and
> who has already paid.
> 
> So does anybody know who the extra one is for?

Yes, she paid for her brother and there should be a different ID in
Viktorija's transfer.
POV paid for her personaly.

-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt

From lac at openend.se  Tue Jul  3 13:43:18 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:43:18 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Problem with Somebody's registration.
In-Reply-To: Message from Aiste Kesminaite <aiste@pov.lt> 
	of "Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:20:09 +0300." <20070703082009.GC30048@lucky> 
References: <200707022003.l62K3MXb018926@theraft.openend.se>
	<20070703082009.GC30048@lucky> 
Message-ID: <200707031143.l63BhItn015425@theraft.openend.se>


Thank you, all fixed now.

Laura

In a message of Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:20:09 +0300, Aiste Kesminaite writes:
>> I have received a 160 Euro payment from
>> 
>> UAB Programuotoju Artele
>> Sietakausko 30A-17
>> Vilnius Lietuva
>> 
>> The note with it says: for 168
>> 
>> But #168 is  Viktorija Zaksiene
>> who works for Programmers of Vilnius, and
>> who has already paid.
>> 
>> So does anybody know who the extra one is for?
>
>Yes, she paid for her brother and there should be a different ID in
>Viktorija's transfer.
>POV paid for her personaly.
>
>-- 
>Aiste Kesminaite
>Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
>Phone: +370 6563 6462
>Email: aiste at pov.lt
>Web: www.pov.lt

From lac at openend.se  Tue Jul  3 13:44:12 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 13:44:12 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference dinner
Message-ID: <200707031144.l63BiClK015465@theraft.openend.se>

for you of you who were asking, it is Tuesday night.

Laura

From lac at openend.se  Tue Jul  3 13:47:24 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:47:24 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Problem with Somebody's registration.
In-Reply-To: Message from Aiste Kesminaite <aiste@pov.lt> 
	of "Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:20:09 +0300." <20070703082009.GC30048@lucky> 
References: <200707022003.l62K3MXb018926@theraft.openend.se>
	<20070703082009.GC30048@lucky> 
Message-ID: <200707031147.l63BlOKG016401@theraft.openend.se>

Thank you, all fixed now.

Laura

In a message of Tue, 03 Jul 2007 11:20:09 +0300, Aiste Kesminaite writes:
>> I have received a 160 Euro payment from
>> 
>> UAB Programuotoju Artele
>> Sietakausko 30A-17
>> Vilnius Lietuva
>> 
>> The note with it says: for 168
>> 
>> But #168 is  Viktorija Zaksiene
>> who works for Programmers of Vilnius, and
>> who has already paid.
>> 
>> So does anybody know who the extra one is for?
>
>Yes, she paid for her brother and there should be a different ID in
>Viktorija's transfer.
>POV paid for her personaly.
>
>-- 
>Aiste Kesminaite
>Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
>Phone: +370 6563 6462
>Email: aiste at pov.lt
>Web: www.pov.lt
>_______________________________________________
>EuroPython mailing list
>EuroPython at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From thomas.baron at cern.ch  Tue Jul  3 16:37:31 2007
From: thomas.baron at cern.ch (Thomas Baron)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 16:37:31 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20070703143632.195310@gmx.net>
References: <20070703143632.195310@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <468A5F2B.1080105@cern.ch>

Dear Aroldo,
once an abstract has been accepted, the author cannot modify it anymore, 
only the conference managers can do so.
I copy your mail to the conference organisers,
Best regards,
Thomas

Aroldo Souza-Leite a ?crit :
> Hi,
>
>
> Concerning to Europython talk 24 (The Zope Foundation) on We at 9:00 a.m.:
>
>
> Once I won't make it to Europython this year, two other Zope Foundation Directors, Martijn Faassen and Jodok Batlogg, will be giving the talk. 
> I'd like to change the entry
>
>
> http://indico.cern.ch/contributionDisplay.py?contribId=24&sessionId=19&confId=13919
>
>
> The entry should now read:
>
> Primary Authors:       FAASSEN, Martijn (Zope Foundation, Inc)
> Co-Authors: 	       BATLOGG, Jodok (Zope Foundation, Inc)
> Presenters: 	       FAASSEN, Martijn and BATLOGG, Jodok
>
>
> I could't find anything like an "edit" button in this page after I logged in to indico (only "manage material").
> How can I change it?
>
> Regards,
>
> Aroldo.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   

-- 
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Bldg 513-R-042 ** Voice: +41-22-7673828 ** Mobile: +41-76-4870500


From bea at changemaker.nu  Tue Jul  3 23:38:28 2007
From: bea at changemaker.nu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Beatrice_D=FCring?=)
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2007 23:38:28 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] session chairs
In-Reply-To: <aa0dfd860707021521lfced64eq3144a401dc694005@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aa0dfd860707021521lfced64eq3144a401dc694005@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <468AC1D4.7060207@changemaker.nu>

Hi there

Michael Hudson skrev:
> It's time (in fact it's rather overdue, sorry about that) to find
> people to run sessions at the conference next week. I've made a wiki
> page to try to allocate people to sessions:
>
> http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2007SessionChairing
>
> Running a session isn't that much work -- making sure you know who
> your speakers are in the break before and stopping them from talking
> for too long is the most of it.  Please feel free to sign up for a
> session or more.
>
>   
Thanks Michael! I have signed up for 5 sessions.

Cheers

Bea
> Cheers,
> mwh
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>   


From u.oestermeier at iwm-kmrc.de  Sun Jul  1 08:42:41 2007
From: u.oestermeier at iwm-kmrc.de (Uwe Oestermeier)
Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2007 08:42:41 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk Bebop Protocols
Message-ID: <fc.000f4a01004a802f000f4a01004a802f.4a8042@iwm-kmrc.de>

Hello,

today I saw that my talk "Bebop Protocols" in the "Wed Related
Technologies" section (Tuesday, 9:30)has a planned duration of 60 minutes.
That surprised me and was never intended.

Can that be changed to 30 minutes? 

Thanks in advance,
Uwe Oestermeier


________________________________________________________________
Dr. Uwe Oestermeier
Institut f?r Wissensmedien
Knowledge Media Research Center
Konrad-Adenauer-Str. 40
D-72072 Tuebingen
Germany
u.oestermeier at iwm-kmrc.de
Tel. +49 7071 979-208
Fax +49 7071 979-100




From stefano.masini at pragma2000.com  Sun Jul  1 14:43:51 2007
From: stefano.masini at pragma2000.com (Stefano Masini)
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2007 14:43:51 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference dinner
Message-ID: <1bdedd7a0707010543v773e80a9ye268bd94fcb93226@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I registered for me and other 3 collegues of mine some time ago, and
made payment accordingly.
But now my wife has decided to travel with us, so she would like to
join me for the dinner, together with our 16 months old child.
I logged into Indico and changed my registration.

One question:

Can I pay the remaining 35 euros (one guest for dinner) at the desk
when I register rather than making another money transfer?

thanks
stefano

From lac at openend.se  Wed Jul  4 13:44:00 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 13:44:00 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Conference dinner
In-Reply-To: Message from "Stefano Masini" <stefano.masini@pragma2000.com> 
	of "Sun, 01 Jul 2007 14:43:51 +0200."
	<1bdedd7a0707010543v773e80a9ye268bd94fcb93226@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <1bdedd7a0707010543v773e80a9ye268bd94fcb93226@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200707041144.l64Bi0AJ030268@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Sun, 01 Jul 2007 14:43:51 +0200, "Stefano Masini" writes:
>Hello,
>
>I registered for me and other 3 collegues of mine some time ago, and
>made payment accordingly.
>But now my wife has decided to travel with us, so she would like to
>join me for the dinner, together with our 16 months old child.
>I logged into Indico and changed my registration.
>
>One question:
>
>Can I pay the remaining 35 euros (one guest for dinner) at the desk
>when I register rather than making another money transfer?
>
>thanks
>stefano

Certainly.

Laura

From Hannu.Valtonen at f-secure.com  Wed Jul  4 23:44:01 2007
From: Hannu.Valtonen at f-secure.com (Hannu Valtonen)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:44:01 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration payment for Europython
Message-ID: <468C14A1.1030009@f-secure.com>

Hi,

While re-reading the registration info, I saw that it was advised to 
insert my name and/or the registration id. into the bank transfer message.

So having realised this I'm pretty sure I put neither into the bank 
transfer form. So I'd like to confirm that I'm properly registered.

Registration ID was:

c13919r140

My name was Hannu Jussi Valtonen, the sending bank was Nordea, amount was 160 euros and the date of transfer was 2.7.2007.

Anyway, thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience.

- Hannu Valtonen





From lac at openend.se  Thu Jul  5 00:21:11 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:21:11 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration payment for Europython
In-Reply-To: Message from Hannu Valtonen <Hannu.Valtonen@f-secure.com> 
	of "Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:44:01 +0300." <468C14A1.1030009@f-secure.com> 
References: <468C14A1.1030009@f-secure.com> 
Message-ID: <200707042221.l64MLBXv007279@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:44:01 +0300, Hannu Valtonen writes:
>Hi,
>
>While re-reading the registration info, I saw that it was advised to 
>insert my name and/or the registration id. into the bank transfer message
>.
>
>So having realised this I'm pretty sure I put neither into the bank 
>transfer form. So I'd like to confirm that I'm properly registered.
>
>Registration ID was:
>
>c13919r140
>
>My name was Hannu Jussi Valtonen, the sending bank was Nordea, amount was
> 160 euros and the date of transfer was 2.7.2007.
>
>Anyway, thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience.
>
>- Hannu Valtonen

I haven't received a notice from the bank saying that you have paid yet.
But since you just paid 2 days ago, I wouldn't have received it yet.
I'll make sure that you get into the conference fine.  If when we get back
from Vilnius, Swedbank still hasn't confimed that it has received the
money, we can start to worry about it then.

Laura

From lac at openend.se  Thu Jul  5 14:41:05 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:41:05 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration payment for Europython
In-Reply-To: Message from Hannu Valtonen <Hannu.Valtonen@f-secure.com> 
	of "Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:44:01 +0300." <468C14A1.1030009@f-secure.com> 
References: <468C14A1.1030009@f-secure.com> 
Message-ID: <200707051241.l65Cf5xi022456@theraft.openend.se>

Swedbank confirmed that you have paid by mail today.  You're all
set.  And your name was on the form.

Laura

In a message of Thu, 05 Jul 2007 00:44:01 +0300, Hannu Valtonen writes:
>Hi,
>
>While re-reading the registration info, I saw that it was advised to 
>insert my name and/or the registration id. into the bank transfer message
>.
>
>So having realised this I'm pretty sure I put neither into the bank 
>transfer form. So I'd like to confirm that I'm properly registered.
>
>Registration ID was:
>
>c13919r140
>
>My name was Hannu Jussi Valtonen, the sending bank was Nordea, amount was
> 160 euros and the date of transfer was 2.7.2007.
>
>Anyway, thanks, and sorry for the inconvenience.
>
>- Hannu Valtonen
>
>
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>EuroPython mailing list
>EuroPython at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From lac at openend.se  Thu Jul  5 14:42:24 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:42:24 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration ?
In-Reply-To: Message from "Antoine Boegli" <antoine.boegli@gmail.com> of "Mon,
	02 Jul 2007 18:13:47 +0200."
	<fc757f920707020913r6c0aa265q6220886afbc79710@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <fc757f920707020913r6c0aa265q6220886afbc79710@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200707051242.l65CgOtb022596@theraft.openend.se>

I got confirmation of your payment from the bank today.  You are
all set.

Laura


From martin at infoserv.dk  Fri Jul  6 13:12:39 2007
From: martin at infoserv.dk (Martin Skou)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:12:39 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Missed registration
Message-ID: <468E23A7.807@infoserv.dk>

I can see that its possible to register "on the door", but can i be sure 
that it's possible and that the conference is not full?

Thanks.

From lac at openend.se  Fri Jul  6 13:45:09 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:45:09 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Missed registration
In-Reply-To: Message from Martin Skou <martin@infoserv.dk> 
	of "Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:12:39 +0200." <468E23A7.807@infoserv.dk> 
References: <468E23A7.807@infoserv.dk> 
Message-ID: <200707061145.l66Bj9rY030019@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Fri, 06 Jul 2007 13:12:39 +0200, Martin Skou writes:
>I can see that its possible to register "on the door", but can i be sure 
>that it's possible and that the conference is not full?
>
>Thanks.
>_______________________________________________
>EuroPython mailing list
>EuroPython at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

We have plenty of room.  Looking forward to seeing you there.
It would help us ieemnsely if you could bring the correct change
for your registration.

Laura

From ct at gocept.com  Fri Jul  6 23:54:57 2007
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:54:57 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsorship
Message-ID: <1183758897.6121.3.camel@mindy>

Hey there,

(putting Aiste and Laura as To: as well, to raise visibility, hopefully
to the right people)

I had inquired about sponsorship a couple of times before and noticed
that the homepage doesn't advertise any sponsors at all.

gocept would be happy to be a Sponsor (and AFAICT we still haven't
received a bill for 2005) as long as somebody contacts us and let's
us. ;)

Christian


From ct at gocept.com  Fri Jul  6 23:59:34 2007
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 23:59:34 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsorship
In-Reply-To: <1183758897.6121.3.camel@mindy>
References: <1183758897.6121.3.camel@mindy>
Message-ID: <1183759174.6121.5.camel@mindy>

Am Freitag, den 06.07.2007, 23:54 +0200 schrieb Christian Theune:
> Hey there,
> 
> (putting Aiste and Laura as To: as well, to raise visibility, hopefully
> to the right people)
> 
> I had inquired about sponsorship a couple of times before and noticed
> that the homepage doesn't advertise any sponsors at all.

Actually, just after sending this email, the banner rotation started to
include actual sponsors and not just the 'Become a sponsor banner'.
Something in /dev/random seems to be flawed. ;)

Christian


From alga at pov.lt  Sat Jul  7 10:24:27 2007
From: alga at pov.lt (Albertas Agejevas)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:24:27 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Meetup on Sunday evening
Message-ID: <20070707082427.GA16086@fridge.pov.lt>

Hi,

For those of you who will be in Vilnius on Sunday evening, I suggest
to meet up at 19:00 here:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=54.678887+25.284487&ie=UTF8&ll=54.67955,25.284476&spn=0.002754,0.007939&t=h&z=17&iwloc=addr&om=1

Don't expect much, this is just a summer caffe selling beer, but I
hope that there'll be enough room for all of us, and there are two
more similar caffes a hundered meters away.  The approximate address
is Vokie?i? g. 12.

This place is approximately 2 km away from Reval hotel.

For the record, if you need to look up an address in Vilnius, this is
the online service to use:  http://www.maps.lt/

See you there!

Albertas

From kitblake at infrae.com  Sat Jul  7 16:23:04 2007
From: kitblake at infrae.com (Kit BLAKE)
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 16:23:04 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] room/bed available at EuroPython
Message-ID: <468FA1C8.8090708@infrae.com>

Hi,
One of the our people must cancel his EuroPython trip due to personal
reasons. This means we have a room/bed (shared room) available in the
conference hotel. Is anyone interested?

Kit

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From aiste at pov.lt  Sat Jul  7 19:25:10 2007
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 20:25:10 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsorship
In-Reply-To: <1183759174.6121.5.camel@mindy>
References: <1183758897.6121.3.camel@mindy> <1183759174.6121.5.camel@mindy>
Message-ID: <20070707172509.GC12734@lucky>

Hello Christian,

> > (putting Aiste and Laura as To: as well, to raise visibility, hopefully
> > to the right people)
> > 
> > I had inquired about sponsorship a couple of times before and noticed
> > that the homepage doesn't advertise any sponsors at all.
> 
> Actually, just after sending this email, the banner rotation started to
> include actual sponsors and not just the 'Become a sponsor banner'.
> Something in /dev/random seems to be flawed. ;)


Quite possible.
gocept were added as advertising sponsors.

-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt

From renesd at gmail.com  Sun Jul  8 06:14:39 2007
From: renesd at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Dudfield?=)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 14:14:39 +1000
Subject: [EuroPython] Fwd: europython cheeseshop sprint? Rolling out changes.
In-Reply-To: <64ddb72c0707072027p226f7125k3642ef00c5577675@mail.gmail.com>
References: <64ddb72c0707072027p226f7125k3642ef00c5577675@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <64ddb72c0707072114y54022cd9ybb6c9da4ca7cc311@mail.gmail.com>

I sent this to the catalog list, but maybe it should go to the
europython list too...



Hellos,


I'll need to coordinate with someone at some point to implement my
changes... since I don't have access.  I'm at europython, so maybe
that would be a good time to meet up for a little sprint?


Is there anyone with access to the cheeseshop going to europython who
wants to work on implementing these changes?  I don't have subversion
commit access, or access to the server, so I'll need someone else who
does to help me.


Here's the sprint wiki page for sprints:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2007Sprints

I also created a page here:
http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2007/CheeseshopSprint


We need to decide when to do the sprint too.



Please let me know if you want to join the sprint, and on what day?

What other things do people want to work on at the sprint?

It would be good to set up a different virtual domain so we can test
changes on there without mucking up the normal cheeseshop so much.  It
might be best if I set it up on a separate server for testing, since
apache will have to be restarted a lot.

Since there aren't really any tests for the cheeseshop, should I start
adding some?  If so with which tool?  I'd like to make some tests to
see if the dynamic, or static files are being served - depending if
the user is authorized or not.  I'd also like to

These tests can also serve as monitoring tools - to answer this
question - 'is the cheeseshop still working?'

From edomaur at gmail.com  Sun Jul  8 10:45:44 2007
From: edomaur at gmail.com (Antoine Boegli)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 10:45:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] you are in Vilnius now. what are you doing today ?
Message-ID: <fc757f920707080145o22ddeef3ye8ada7dcb20b1a5b@mail.gmail.com>

hello everybody,

those of you who are already in Vilnius knows that the weather is
somewhat, hum, "liquid"...

so, I am asking : what are you doing this "sun"-day afternoon ?

could we perhaps find ourselves in a bar, somewhere ? or even swap
ideas about killing time ?

:-)

-- 
Antoine Boegli
software engineer & linux expert

From ct at gocept.com  Sun Jul  8 14:14:41 2007
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 14:14:41 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] you are in Vilnius now. what are you doing today ?
In-Reply-To: <fc757f920707080145o22ddeef3ye8ada7dcb20b1a5b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fc757f920707080145o22ddeef3ye8ada7dcb20b1a5b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1183896881.30496.0.camel@mindy>

Hey,

Am Sonntag, den 08.07.2007, 10:45 +0200 schrieb Antoine Boegli:
> hello everybody,
> 
> those of you who are already in Vilnius knows that the weather is
> somewhat, hum, "liquid"...

It definitely is. :)

> so, I am asking : what are you doing this "sun"-day afternoon ?
> 
> could we perhaps find ourselves in a bar, somewhere ? or even swap
> ideas about killing time ?

I'll be downstairs in the lobby of the conference hotel in a few
minutes, enjoying some coffee and wireless lan and will be hacking
away. :)

Join me, if you like, ...




From dalius.dobravolskas at gmail.com  Sun Jul  8 14:28:45 2007
From: dalius.dobravolskas at gmail.com (Dalius Dobravolskas)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 15:28:45 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] What's the weather like?
Message-ID: <98dd087e0707080528m647ea5d9rc4e2a154c5a05735@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

> What's it like in Vilnius these days?
I guess it is too late already but if information is still valuable
weather is rather bad these days. I would recommend to have umbrella
at least (unusually rainy days). Some warmer clothes might help as
well because it is about 20 degrees outside.

Regards,
Dalius

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Sun Jul  8 14:31:29 2007
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 14:31:29 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] you are in Vilnius now. what are you doing today ?
In-Reply-To: <1183896881.30496.0.camel@mindy>
References: <fc757f920707080145o22ddeef3ye8ada7dcb20b1a5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1183896881.30496.0.camel@mindy>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0707080531m55843f4by5857678933846cc9@mail.gmail.com>

There is a bunch of us on flight LH 3254 (at least 7 EuroPythonistas)

maybe we find a way to charter a bus...


Harald


On 7/8/07, Christian Theune <ct at gocept.com> wrote:
>
> Hey,
>
> Am Sonntag, den 08.07.2007, 10:45 +0200 schrieb Antoine Boegli:
> > hello everybody,
> >
> > those of you who are already in Vilnius knows that the weather is
> > somewhat, hum, "liquid"...
>
> It definitely is. :)
>
> > so, I am asking : what are you doing this "sun"-day afternoon ?
> >
> > could we perhaps find ourselves in a bar, somewhere ? or even swap
> > ideas about killing time ?
>
> I'll be downstairs in the lobby of the conference hotel in a few
> minutes, enjoying some coffee and wireless lan and will be hacking
> away. :)
>
> Join me, if you like, ...
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>


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From duncan at grisby.org  Sun Jul  8 13:54:54 2007
From: duncan at grisby.org (Duncan Grisby)
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 12:54:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] you are in Vilnius now. what are you doing today ?
In-Reply-To: <fc757f920707080145o22ddeef3ye8ada7dcb20b1a5b@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <E1I7VLd-0007T0-QH@apasphere.com>

On Sunday 8 July, "Antoine Boegli" wrote:

> hello everybody,
> 
> those of you who are already in Vilnius knows that the weather is
> somewhat, hum, "liquid"...
> 
> so, I am asking : what are you doing this "sun"-day afternoon ?
> 
> could we perhaps find ourselves in a bar, somewhere ? or even swap
> ideas about killing time ?

I've been sight-seeing. all the sights are quite wet. I'd be on for
meeting at a bar somewhere.  Perhaps  people should go early to the
place we're going later.

Cheers,


Duncan.

-- 
 -- Duncan Grisby         --
  -- duncan at grisby.org     --
   -- http://www.grisby.org --

From ct at gocept.com  Sun Jul  8 15:06:22 2007
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 15:06:22 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] you are in Vilnius now. what are you doing today ?
In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0707080531m55843f4by5857678933846cc9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fc757f920707080145o22ddeef3ye8ada7dcb20b1a5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1183896881.30496.0.camel@mindy>
	<7be3f35d0707080531m55843f4by5857678933846cc9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1183899982.30496.12.camel@mindy>

Am Sonntag, den 08.07.2007, 14:31 +0200 schrieb Harald Armin Massa:
> There is a bunch of us on flight LH 3254 (at least 7 EuroPythonistas)
> 
> maybe we find a way to charter a bus...

We took a cab ride from the airport to the hotel which costs about 20
EUR and has place for 3-4 people.

Christian


From ct at gocept.com  Sun Jul  8 15:16:35 2007
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 15:16:35 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] SMTP is filtered/sniffed on wireless in hotel
Message-ID: <1183900595.30496.17.camel@mindy>

Just in case: I noticed that the (outgoing) SMTP in the hotel's wireless
network is filtered (very) transparently by the local router. 

I noticed because the postfix that seems to filter it presents you with
an invalid certificate when trying to connect via SMTP/TLS to the
outside world. 

Beware of your SMTP passwords.

Christian


From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Sun Jul  8 19:17:45 2007
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:17:45 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] you are in Vilnius now. what are you doing today ?
In-Reply-To: <1183899982.30496.12.camel@mindy>
References: <fc757f920707080145o22ddeef3ye8ada7dcb20b1a5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<1183896881.30496.0.camel@mindy>
	<7be3f35d0707080531m55843f4by5857678933846cc9@mail.gmail.com>
	<1183899982.30496.12.camel@mindy>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0707081017n1cc71507gcb24e08c0076a877@mail.gmail.com>

we simply took Bus No 2, which stops nealry bevor reval hotel. It's 1,40 LT
per person and has room for around 30 persons.

Harald

On 7/8/07, Christian Theune <ct at gocept.com> wrote:
>
> Am Sonntag, den 08.07.2007, 14:31 +0200 schrieb Harald Armin Massa:
> > There is a bunch of us on flight LH 3254 (at least 7 EuroPythonistas)
> >
> > maybe we find a way to charter a bus...
>
> We took a cab ride from the airport to the hotel which costs about 20
> EUR and has place for 3-4 people.
>
> Christian
>
>


-- 
GHUM Harald Massa
persuadere et programmare
Harald Armin Massa
Spielberger Stra?e 49
70435 Stuttgart
0173/9409607
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EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July
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From alga at pov.lt  Sat Jul  7 10:24:27 2007
From: alga at pov.lt (Albertas Agejevas)
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 11:24:27 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Meetup on Sunday evening
Message-ID: <20070707082427.GA16086@fridge.pov.lt>

Hi,

For those of you who will be in Vilnius on Sunday evening, I suggest
to meet up at 19:00 here:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=54.678887+25.284487&ie=UTF8&ll=54.67955,25.284476&spn=0.002754,0.007939&t=h&z=17&iwloc=addr&om=1

Don't expect much, this is just a summer caffe selling beer, but I
hope that there'll be enough room for all of us, and there are two
more similar caffes a hundered meters away.  The approximate address
is Vokie?i? g. 12.

This place is approximately 2 km away from Reval hotel.

For the record, if you need to look up an address in Vilnius, this is
the online service to use:  http://www.maps.lt/

See you there!

Albertas

From Jukka.P.Laurila at nokia.com  Sun Jul  8 18:04:10 2007
From: Jukka.P.Laurila at nokia.com (Jukka.P.Laurila at nokia.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 19:04:10 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk cancellation
Message-ID: <191CF299661D6E4EA39DC5DB2D4EB73E046382EB@esebe105.NOE.Nokia.com>

Hi,

I regret to inform you that I have to cancel my "Mobile Web Server" talk
scheduled for tomorrow. My deepest apologies for the short notice.

I am giving my other talk "Snakes on a Phone" normally.

-Jukka

From renesd at gmail.com  Fri Jul  6 16:44:00 2007
From: renesd at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ren=E9_Dudfield?=)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 18:44:00 +0400
Subject: [EuroPython] Hello from Vilnius.
Message-ID: <64ddb72c0707060744x1b1f3040i7ef24162db9f904@mail.gmail.com>

Hellos,

I'm sitting at my hostel in Vilnius preparing for my presentations.

I've managed to get wireless internet working from windows here, but
for some reason my linux doesn't like this particular access point.

After a marathon 38ish hour journey I arrived at almost midnight, then
fell asleep.  I spent half the day today wandering around the old town
looking at things.


I'm looking forward to when the conference starts.  Should be good to
meet everyone, and see what everyone is up to.

From euries2001 at yahoo.com  Tue Jul  3 13:45:58 2007
From: euries2001 at yahoo.com (sterling westley)
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 04:45:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007
Message-ID: <608600.61756.qm@web60311.mail.yahoo.com>

DEAR  SIR,         3RD  TRANSMISSION
          THIS IS  TO INFORM YOU THAT SOME   SOME   OF THE MEMBERS OF  PAN  AFRICAN  PYTHON  & SCIENCE  RESEACHERS     CONGRESS  WILL LIKE TOWITNESS,PARTICIPATE AND ATTEND THE FORTHCOMING  .EuroPython 2007,9-11,JULLY 2007.VILLINIUS .LITHUANIA
     WE  TRIED TO DOWNLOAD AND REGISTER  ON LINE  BUT ALL EFFORTS PROVED ABORTIVE.
            PLS  CONFIRM  THE RECEIPT OF THIS MESSAGE  AS SOON AS  POSSIBLE. AND DO SEND US ANY OTHER  NECESSARY  INFORMATIONS AND DETAILS ASAP.             
   
                                    BEST REGARDS   
                        DR  AJAYI TEMITOPE FUNSHO        
                             NATIONAL EXECUTIVE   
    PAN  AFRICAN  PYTHON  & SCIENCE  RESEACHERS     CONGRESS  

       
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From Irene.Urso at sophia.inria.fr  Wed Jul  4 17:22:24 2007
From: Irene.Urso at sophia.inria.fr (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ir=E8ne_Urso?=)
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:22:24 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] registration's confirmation of C PRADAL]BANK TRANFER
	IN LATE
Message-ID: <468BBB30.10406@sophia.inria.fr>

Dear Sirs

Our financial service is a little in late for this bank tranfer for 
Christophe Pradal.

Would you accept to receive it by the next 10 days and not ask the 
attendee to pay at the conference desk ?

Could you, please, respond to my requiest asap.

Many thanks

Best regards

Irene

-- 
Ir?ne Urso
INRIA - Bureau des Missions
2004, route des Lucioles BP 93
06565 Sophia Antipolis Cedex
T?l : 33 (0)4 92 38 79 30
Fax : 33 (0)4 92 38 79 55


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From lac at openend.se  Sun Jul  8 19:40:24 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:40:24 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk cancellation
In-Reply-To: Message from <Jukka.P.Laurila@nokia.com> of "Sun,
	08 Jul 2007 19:04:10 +0300."
	<191CF299661D6E4EA39DC5DB2D4EB73E046382EB@esebe105.NOE.Nokia.com>
References: <191CF299661D6E4EA39DC5DB2D4EB73E046382EB@esebe105.NOE.Nokia.com> 
Message-ID: <200707081740.l68HeOrp023678@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:04:10 +0300, Jukka.P.Laurila at nokia.com writ
es:
>Hi,
>
>I regret to inform you that I have to cancel my "Mobile Web Server" talk
>scheduled for tomorrow. My deepest apologies for the short notice.
>
>I am giving my other talk "Snakes on a Phone" normally.
>
>-Jukka

Do you want to cancel that talk altogether, or move it to another day?

Laura


From lac at openend.se  Sun Jul  8 19:47:21 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:47:21 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] registration's confirmation of C PRADAL]BANK
	TRANFER IN LATE
In-Reply-To: Message from =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ir=E8ne_Urso?=
	<Irene.Urso@sophia.inria.fr> 
	of "Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:22:24 +0200." <468BBB30.10406@sophia.inria.fr> 
References: <468BBB30.10406@sophia.inria.fr> 
Message-ID: <200707081747.l68HlL7A024679@theraft.openend.se>

This will be ok, but I will have to confirm it with Christophe Pradal tomorrow.

Laura Creighton

In a message of Wed, 04 Jul 2007 17:22:24 +0200, Ir?ne Urso writes:
>This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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>Dear Sirs
>
>Our financial service is a little in late for this bank tranfer for 
>Christophe Pradal.
>
>Would you accept to receive it by the next 10 days and not ask the 
>attendee to pay at the conference desk ?
>
>Could you, please, respond to my requiest asap.
>
>Many thanks
>
>Best regards
>
>Irene
>
>-- 
>Ir?ne Urso
>INRIA - Bureau des Missions
>2004, route des Lucioles BP 93
>06565 Sophia Antipolis Cedex
>T?l : 33 (0)4 92 38 79 30
>Fax : 33 (0)4 92 38 79 55
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>Dear sirs,
>
>I confirm the registration of Christophe PRADAL to EUROPYTHON 2007, 
>9-11/07,2007, Vilnius, Lithuania.
>
>I confirm that you will receive by bank transfer the amount of 100 euros.
>
>INRIA is a public establishment and the bank transfer will be made by 
>Banque the France to SWEDBANK in Stockholm.
>
>Best regards,
>
>-- 
>Ir?ne Urso
>INRIA - Bureau des Missions
>2004, route des Lucioles BP 93
>06565 Sophia Antipolis Cedex
>T?l : 33 (0)4 92 38 79 30
>Fax : 33 (0)4 92 38 79 55
>
>
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From lac at openend.se  Sun Jul  8 19:54:53 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 19:54:53 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007
In-Reply-To: Message from sterling westley <euries2001@yahoo.com> of "Tue,
	03 Jul 2007 04:45:58 PDT." <608600.61756.qm@web60311.mail.yahoo.com> 
References: <608600.61756.qm@web60311.mail.yahoo.com> 
Message-ID: <200707081754.l68Hsr6k025718@theraft.openend.se>

You are too late, the conference has already started.  These things
have to be worked out well in advance, because of visa requirements.

Laura Creighton

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From npinhao at itn.pt  Fri Jul  6 18:41:03 2007
From: npinhao at itn.pt (Nuno Pinhao)
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 17:41:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007
Message-ID: <200707061741.03973.npinhao@itn.pt>

Dear colleagues,

I'm finalizing my talk and I would like to confirm what are the facilities 
available.
I'm planning to take with me only a pen with a pdf of the presentation.
I assume that a PC/laptop with a USB drive and a pdf reader for overhead 
presentation will be available.
If necessary I can also take a bootable DVD with a OS/software.

Best regards

-- 
=======================================================================
Nuno R. Pinh?o
Research Officer
ITN - Nuclear and Technological Institute
Physics Unit & Radiological Protection and Nuclear Security Department
Estrada Nacional 10, 2685-953 Sacav?m, Portugal
Landline: +351-21.9946067/316,        Fax:   +351-21.9941525
GPG Key Fingerprint: B343 01CC 6F7E A832 DB03  9DAC F13A 5C41 6857 75BE
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From pigletto at gmail.com  Thu Jul  5 23:16:29 2007
From: pigletto at gmail.com (Maciej Wisniowski)
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 23:16:29 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration question
Message-ID: <468D5FAD.9070908@gmail.com>

Hi!

Me and my two collegues have registered for conference. We all have
received confirmations of registeration, my fellows also received
something called "payment confirmation" but I didn't...

Our names are:
Maciej Wisniowski (Me) my registrant id: 211
Jakub Wisniowski - c13919r210
Mateusz Soltysek - c13919r218

My company has just transfered a money for three of us using
registration ids and my name. Is this OK?

-- 
Maciej Wisniowski

From thomas at python.org  Mon Jul  9 09:18:05 2007
From: thomas at python.org (Thomas Wouters)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 00:18:05 -0700
Subject: [EuroPython] Social event & guests.
Message-ID: <9e804ac0707090018l2a4556f8s71f18cee0850f897@mail.gmail.com>

I believe I registered for the social event, and did not register an
additional guest. I'm here with my wife, and she was supposed to be out
travelling the countryside (she's not interested in the conference.)
However, she changed her plans, and will be in town tomorrow after all. Can
I still buy her a guest spot at the social event? (No worries, she knows how
to handle herself with computer programmers; she's a system admin herself ;)

-- 
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From aiste at pov.lt  Mon Jul  9 11:30:23 2007
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 12:30:23 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Social event & guests.
In-Reply-To: <9e804ac0707090018l2a4556f8s71f18cee0850f897@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9e804ac0707090018l2a4556f8s71f18cee0850f897@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070709093022.GA12519@lucky>

> I believe I registered for the social event, and did not register an
> additional guest. I'm here with my wife, and she was supposed to be out
> travelling the countryside (she's not interested in the conference.)
> However, she changed her plans, and will be in town tomorrow after all. Can
> I still buy her a guest spot at the social event? (No worries, she knows how
> to handle herself with computer programmers; she's a system admin herself ;)

If you would come up to either me (Aiste) or Laura Creighton and tell
about this, we will take your payment and your wife can attend the
dinner.


-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt

From philipp at weitershausen.de  Mon Jul  9 17:05:08 2007
From: philipp at weitershausen.de (Philipp von Weitershausen)
Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:05:08 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Meetup Tonight
Message-ID: <f6tit1$ak7$1@sea.gmane.org>

We're meeting around 8pm at Vokie?i? 7 (Cili kaimas). The tables are 
reserved under Europython code name.

The location is two houses down the street from where we originally 
wanted to meet up yesterday:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=54.678887+25.284487&ie=UTF8&ll=54.67955,25.284476&spn=0.002754,0.007939&t=h&z=17&iwloc=addr&om=1


-- 
http://worldcookery.com -- Professional Zope documentation and training


From dalius.dobravolskas at gmail.com  Mon Jul  9 20:14:21 2007
From: dalius.dobravolskas at gmail.com (Dalius Dobravolskas)
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2007 21:14:21 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] my photos from EuroPython 2007 day 1
Message-ID: <98dd087e0707091114w1df76903r265ed004877fd343@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Here are my photos from EuroPython 2007 day 1:
http://picasaweb.google.com/dalius.dobravolskas/EuroPython2007Day1

It would be very nice if everyone who has camera shared their photos
as well. Maybe there should be section in some wiki with links to all
the photos.

Regards,
Dalius Dobravolskas

From cs at comlounge.net  Tue Jul 10 08:02:31 2007
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 09:02:31 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Pictures
Message-ID: <469320F7.4030009@comlounge.net>

Hi everybody!

My photos uploaded so far can be found at

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrtopf/sets/72157600734584590/

If you upload your own photos to flickr, please make sure you tag them 
with "europython2007" and "europython" (for all years). There is also a 
EuroPython group on flickr which you can join:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/24337041 at N00/

You can add your photos there, too.

And now for day 2! :-)

-- Christian


-- 
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From micahel at gmail.com  Tue Jul 10 17:42:40 2007
From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:42:40 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Today's Lightning Talks
Message-ID: <aa0dfd860707100842v1ba6fee0sb530e8eef6a18dbe@mail.gmail.com>

I put a list of speakers and topics for today's lightning talks on the
wiki at http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2007LightningTalks.  If
you have materials that you would like to add to the page, feel free,
or just send them to me and I'll do it.

Looking forward to more tomorrow -- we have a bit longer, should be
able to get even more talks in :)

Cheers,
mwh

From eiwot23 at gmail.com  Wed Jul 11 11:41:58 2007
From: eiwot23 at gmail.com (eiwot23 eiwot23)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:41:58 +0700
Subject: [EuroPython] Today's Lightning Talks
In-Reply-To: <aa0dfd860707100842v1ba6fee0sb530e8eef6a18dbe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <aa0dfd860707100842v1ba6fee0sb530e8eef6a18dbe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2d8f06a0707110241h3a4bdde3nfdcaf019e33029b3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all

  Interested in finding scholarships ? Let's see this
http://scitechscholarships.blogspot.com/

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From stuart.murdock at gmail.com  Wed Jul 11 22:24:44 2007
From: stuart.murdock at gmail.com (Stuart Murdock)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:24:44 -0700
Subject: [EuroPython] Next year
Message-ID: <c5627e2f0707111324o72c7760dhbb88cf3e74e227da@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I know I am a bit early for this but I am just looking  for
approximate answers.

Do you think next years conference will bein  Villnius  ? If not could
you give me an idea?

Also do  you have an approximate time ?

Sorry  for  asking but any hints would be great. I won't hold  it
against  you if you say istanbul and  its in lisbon.

Hope alls going well,

Stuart

From steve at canonical.com  Thu Jul 12 00:46:59 2007
From: steve at canonical.com (Steve Alexander)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 01:46:59 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Next year
In-Reply-To: <c5627e2f0707111324o72c7760dhbb88cf3e74e227da@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c5627e2f0707111324o72c7760dhbb88cf3e74e227da@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46955DE3.5000307@canonical.com>

Stuart Murdock wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I know I am a bit early for this but I am just looking  for
> approximate answers.
> 
> Do you think next years conference will bein  Villnius  ? If not could
> you give me an idea?
> 
> Also do  you have an approximate time ?

Vilnius, same as this year.  June/July time, to be confirmed more
precisely later.

-- 
Steve Alexander

From jig at aon.at  Thu Jul 12 23:24:01 2007
From: jig at aon.at (Kirby Pauline)
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 16:24:01 -0500
Subject: [EuroPython] paid.BLGIOWRDGR.pdf
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From david at boddie.org.uk  Sun Jul 15 00:13:40 2007
From: david at boddie.org.uk (David Boddie)
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 00:13:40 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Pictures
Message-ID: <200707150013.41192.david@boddie.org.uk>

On Tue Jul 10 08:02:31 CEST 2007, Christian Scholz wrote:

> My photos uploaded so far can be found at
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrtopf/sets/72157600734584590/

I've started adding mine now, too:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10144736%40N08/sets/72157600823609202/

It was a relatively painless experience, thanks to Kflickr:

http://kflickr.sourceforge.net/

> If you upload your own photos to flickr, please make sure you tag them
> with "europython2007" and "europython" (for all years). There is also a
> EuroPython group on flickr which you can join:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/24337041 at N00/
> 
> You can add your photos there, too.

OK, I'll try to figure out how to do that!

David

From mkashkin at gmail.com  Mon Jul 16 12:00:49 2007
From: mkashkin at gmail.com (Mikhail Kashkin)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:00:49 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Pictures
In-Reply-To: <200707150013.41192.david@boddie.org.uk>
References: <200707150013.41192.david@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <8d28cfa90707160300j36e1f124l8bfaaeb9dc79d845@mail.gmail.com>

I'm upload my photos. Available at
- http://picasaweb.google.com/mkashkin/EuroPython2007

  From conference

- http://picasaweb.google.com/mkashkin/Vilnius2007Views

  Vilnius shots

On 7/15/07, David Boddie <david at boddie.org.uk> wrote:
>
> On Tue Jul 10 08:02:31 CEST 2007, Christian Scholz wrote:
>
> > My photos uploaded so far can be found at
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrtopf/sets/72157600734584590/
>
> I've started adding mine now, too:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10144736%40N08/sets/72157600823609202/
>
> It was a relatively painless experience, thanks to Kflickr:
>
> http://kflickr.sourceforge.net/
>
>
> > If you upload your own photos to flickr, please make sure you tag them
> > with "europython2007" and "europython" (for all years). There is also a
> > EuroPython group on flickr which you can join:
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/groups/24337041 at N00/
> >
> > You can add your photos there, too.
>
>
> OK, I'll try to figure out how to do that!
>
> David
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>



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From duncan at grisby.org  Mon Jul 16 13:54:20 2007
From: duncan at grisby.org (Duncan Grisby)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 12:54:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] My photos from the conference
Message-ID: <E1IAP9T-0003s5-RL@apasphere.com>

Hi everyone,

Here are the photos I took at EuroPython:

  http://www.grisby.org/Photos/431/

So far I've put up all the ones I took of people during the conference.
All my shots of Vilnius will appear soon.

I've tried to label the photos with the people in them where I know who
they are or I could read their name badges. If you know the name of
anyone who's not already identified, or I've got any of them wrong, let
me know.

Cheers,

Duncan.

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From dalius.dobravolskas at gmail.com  Wed Jul 11 20:52:33 2007
From: dalius.dobravolskas at gmail.com (Dalius Dobravolskas)
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:52:33 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] my photos from EuroPython 2007 day 1
In-Reply-To: <98dd087e0707091114w1df76903r265ed004877fd343@mail.gmail.com>
References: <98dd087e0707091114w1df76903r265ed004877fd343@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98dd087e0707111152u44075811gc9da87a7187df063@mail.gmail.com>

> Here are my photos from EuroPython 2007 day 1:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/dalius.dobravolskas/EuroPython2007Day1
As well:
http://picasaweb.google.com/dalius.dobravolskas/EuroPython2007Day2
http://picasaweb.google.com/dalius.dobravolskas/EuroPython2007Day3

GROK (incomplete) - my photo camera is not very good at taking videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAZZC7nvD2E

I will try to make some panoramic pictures and place them as well in
corresponding days.

Dalius

From hawkerm at mikeware.com  Tue Jul 10 20:12:38 2007
From: hawkerm at mikeware.com (Michael A. Hawker)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:12:38 -0700
Subject: [EuroPython] [Announcement] Wednesday Evaluation
Message-ID: <4693CC16.9010203@mikeware.com>

A general note from the conference organizers:

Tomorrow (Wednesday) there will be an evaluation form near the main 
desks.  We ask that you please take some time to fill it out.

There will also be a draw for prizes for those who fill out their 
evaluation forms.

Thank you.

From dalius.dobravolskas at gmail.com  Mon Jul 16 21:39:27 2007
From: dalius.dobravolskas at gmail.com (Dalius Dobravolskas)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:39:27 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] My photos from the conference
In-Reply-To: <E1IAP9T-0003s5-RL@apasphere.com>
References: <E1IAP9T-0003s5-RL@apasphere.com>
Message-ID: <98dd087e0707161239n2807d0d7x33f6c42281e7df43@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

> So far I've put up all the ones I took of people during the conference.
> All my shots of Vilnius will appear soon.
Amazing photos :-) Good camera matters.

> I've tried to label the photos with the people in them where I know who
> they are or I could read their name badges. If you know the name of
> anyone who's not already identified, or I've got any of them wrong, let
> me know.
The most interesting mistype I have seen:
http://www.grisby.org/Photos/431/05/dsc_2738c.jpg.html

"Google van Rossum" :-)

Regards,
Dalius

From duncan at grisby.org  Mon Jul 16 22:32:25 2007
From: duncan at grisby.org (Duncan Grisby)
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 21:32:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] My photos from the conference
In-Reply-To: <98dd087e0707161239n2807d0d7x33f6c42281e7df43@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <E1IAXEq-0005UK-Oc@apasphere.com>

On Monday 16 July, "Dalius Dobravolskas" wrote:

> > So far I've put up all the ones I took of people during the conference.
> > All my shots of Vilnius will appear soon.

> Amazing photos :-) Good camera matters.

Thanks!

[...]
> The most interesting mistype I have seen:
> http://www.grisby.org/Photos/431/05/dsc_2738c.jpg.html
> 
> "Google van Rossum" :-)

That's not a mistype -- I did that on purpose  :-)

Duncan.

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From paul at boddie.org.uk  Tue Jul 17 01:07:48 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:07:48 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Uploading Slides and Materials
Message-ID: <200707170107.48776.paul@boddie.org.uk>

A reminder to presenters: please upload your slides and other materials to the 
EuroPython conference management system so that those who couldn't make it to 
your talk (or to the conference) can benefit from them.

The conference management system can be found here:

http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=13919

See this section of the Indico manual for further instructions:

http://indico.cern.ch/ihelp/sub.html

On a personal level, I'd like to thank all presenters for taking the time to 
prepare an interesting selection of talks, and I look forward to seeing more 
details from the ones I missed.

Paul

From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be  Tue Jul 17 01:13:04 2007
From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:13:04 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] URGENT: Support threatened open standards in Europe
	before Sept 15, 2007
In-Reply-To: <f89206d80707161544t42d969e6u2e9756a34060c3e8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f89206d80707161542u75cb8bf9qb72dca7ac3646811@mail.gmail.com>
	<f89206d80707161544t42d969e6u2e9756a34060c3e8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f89206d80707161613x65fc88d2s51e9aa141bfa4768@mail.gmail.com>

This may be a little off topix, but I think it may also be interesting
for many of you.

Any suggestion, related article or column you may write, is welcome.

Best regards,

Nicolas

====

On June 29 2007, the European Commission agency IDABC published
document written on contract by Gartner initiating the revision of the
European Interoperability Framework (EIF) and the Architecture
Guidelines (AG) .

The first version of this very important document has been published
in 2004 and introduced a strong support and request for open standards
and xml for the exchange of data between administrations within
Europe, as well as with the citizens. This has been relayed and used
in many countries to support open standards as well.

This is now threatened in this new report EIF v2.0 by Gartner

This second version, not yet endorsed by the European Commission, nor
by the member states, but that could well enter soon such an
endorsement process, wants to update the previous version of the
European Interoperability Framework but, contrary to the first
version, it threatens explictely the good process of more open
standards that had been a long time push of IDABC.

(quote from the report)
" Yet, Gartner recommends not to focus on the use of open standards
per se. Whether open or not, standards are to further the deployment
of public services. EIF v2.0 should facilitate the most profitable
business model(s) of cost versus public value, under proper
recognition of intellectual property rights, if any. The support for
multiple standards allows a migration towards open standards when
appropriate in the long run."
" The use of 'open source' software may further the deployment of
public services. However again, whether open source or not, it is the
most viable software that should be allowed to survive in the
infrastructure. So again, EIF v2.0 should facilitate multiple options
to co-exist, and to compete."

These are unacceptable drawbacks from the previous "European
Interoperability Framework for pan-European eGovernment Services"
(Version 1.0, 2004, page 9) that promoted the use of open standards as
defined in this European definition, the use of free and open source
softwares as well as XML, the Extensible Markup Language.

Without our reactions, this could be inforced in the paper and
thereafter be endorsed by the European Commission and made effective
to the member states.

We need to react before September 15, 2007.

Please help us gather these reactions and comments on
http://www.openstandards.eu/

We shall transmit them to the EC while keeping an archive.

Thanks,

Nicolas

--
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From ischenko at gmail.com  Tue Jul 17 11:00:59 2007
From: ischenko at gmail.com (Max Ischenko)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:00:59 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] My photos from the conference
In-Reply-To: <E1IAP9T-0003s5-RL@apasphere.com>
References: <E1IAP9T-0003s5-RL@apasphere.com>
Message-ID: <b11e164d0707170200n4d22ed18ld1d995a0887bcc57@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 7/16/07, Duncan Grisby <duncan at grisby.org> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Here are the photos I took at EuroPython:
>
>   http://www.grisby.org/Photos/431/


Cool photos. Can I put selected thumbnails here:
http://www.developers.org.ua/archives/max/2007/07/15/europython-report/

With the links directly to your site?

Max.
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From duncan at grisby.org  Tue Jul 17 18:31:50 2007
From: duncan at grisby.org (Duncan Grisby)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:31:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] My photos from the conference
In-Reply-To: <b11e164d0707170200n4d22ed18ld1d995a0887bcc57@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <E1IApxZ-0000rQ-NU@apasphere.com>

On Tuesday 17 July, "Max Ischenko" wrote:

> Cool photos. Can I put selected thumbnails here:
> http://www.developers.org.ua/archives/max/2007/07/15/europython-report/
> 
> With the links directly to your site?

Yes, sure. I'd appreciate it if you would credit me on the page as well
as linking. My web server blocks referrers for embedded images, so
you'll have to make local copies of the thumbnails.

Cheers,

Duncan.

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From kitblake at gmail.com  Wed Jul 18 08:06:53 2007
From: kitblake at gmail.com (kit BLAKE)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:06:53 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] my photos from EuroPython 2007 day 1
In-Reply-To: <98dd087e0707111152u44075811gc9da87a7187df063@mail.gmail.com>
References: <98dd087e0707091114w1df76903r265ed004877fd343@mail.gmail.com>
	<98dd087e0707111152u44075811gc9da87a7187df063@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <32a4a00c0707172306k7f97201bt21a9bb2975dd702c@mail.gmail.com>

2007/7/11, Dalius Dobravolskas <dalius.dobravolskas at gmail.com>:
> > Here are my photos from EuroPython 2007 day 1:
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/dalius.dobravolskas/EuroPython2007Day1
> As well:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/dalius.dobravolskas/EuroPython2007Day2
> http://picasaweb.google.com/dalius.dobravolskas/EuroPython2007Day3
>
> GROK (incomplete) - my photo camera is not very good at taking videos:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAZZC7nvD2E

Thank you for the video!

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From npinhao at netvisao.pt  Wed Jul 18 00:55:38 2007
From: npinhao at netvisao.pt (Nuno Rombert Pinhao)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 23:55:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython invoice
Message-ID: <200707172355.39059.npinhao@netvisao.pt>

Hi,

thank you for your work to provide a nice conference!

Now I need to ask you for an invoice of my registration. I had already asked 
that during the conference but I guess my request was lost in all that work.
Please find attached the confirmation of the bank transfer for my 
registration.

Cheers
Nuno Pinhao
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From Dario.Lopez-Kasten at jeppesen.com  Wed Jul 18 10:24:30 2007
From: Dario.Lopez-Kasten at jeppesen.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:24:30 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython invoice
In-Reply-To: <200707172355.39059.npinhao@netvisao.pt>
References: <200707172355.39059.npinhao@netvisao.pt>
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Nuno Rombert Pinhao wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> thank you for your work to provide a nice conference!
> 
> Now I need to ask you for an invoice of my registration. I had
> already asked that during the conference but I guess my request was
> lost in all that work. Please find attached the confirmation of the
> bank transfer for my registration.
> 
> Cheers
> Nuno Pinhao

Hi, it is entirely all my fault. Invoices will come during the evening today.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

/dario

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From lac at openend.se  Wed Jul 18 11:34:28 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 11:34:28 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Europython invoice
In-Reply-To: Message from Nuno Rombert Pinhao <npinhao@netvisao.pt> of "Tue,
	17 Jul 2007 23:55:38 BST." <200707172355.39059.npinhao@netvisao.pt> 
References: <200707172355.39059.npinhao@netvisao.pt> 
Message-ID: <200707180934.l6I9YS5j010434@theraft.openend.se>

I will get them out very soon.

Laura

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From cs at comlounge.net  Wed Jul 18 12:30:55 2007
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:30:55 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Pictures
In-Reply-To: <200707150013.41192.david@boddie.org.uk>
References: <200707150013.41192.david@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <469DEBDF.5080000@comlounge.net>

Hi!

David Boddie wrote:
> On Tue Jul 10 08:02:31 CEST 2007, Christian Scholz wrote:
> 
>> My photos uploaded so far can be found at
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/mrtopf/sets/72157600734584590/
> 
> I've started adding mine now, too:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/10144736%40N08/sets/72157600823609202/

Cool :-)
Where did you get those coffees? ;-)

> It was a relatively painless experience, thanks to Kflickr:
> 
> http://kflickr.sourceforge.net/
> 
>> If you upload your own photos to flickr, please make sure you tag them
>> with "europython2007" and "europython" (for all years). There is also a
>> EuroPython group on flickr which you can join:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/groups/24337041 at N00/
>>
>> You can add your photos there, too.
> 
> OK, I'll try to figure out how to do that!

Quite easy, just got to the group page and join it.
Then you can either add each photo individually to the group by 
selecting the "add to group" icon but more easily it's done by using the 
Organizr. For that click the "Organize" Button at the top of the screen,
select the groups tab, select a batch of photos in the lower bar and 
then drag them into the group. That's all.

In the organizr you can also set where they have been made by using the 
map. You might also be able to find more people of other people in that 
area by using it.

(and there is also a "Python people" group, btw. You might want to add 
photos with people there, too : http://flickr.com/groups/35034346793 at N01/).

I also added some new photos to my stream which can be found at
http://flickr.com/photos/mrtopf/

(btw, flickr IMHO makes most sense for those photos to expose them to a 
lot of people. To get more views, get active on flickr, look around, 
comment on photos, add people as contacts, join groups you might be 
interested in and so on. This helps you in e.g. finding new cool 
people/friends  and it helps Python to get more exposure, too. Make also 
sure to set your photos to a Creative Commons License to encourage 
re-use of them. You can do that in your account settings at
http://flickr.com/account/prefs/license/)

-- Christian



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From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be  Wed Jul 18 12:38:48 2007
From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:38:48 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EP 2007 is over. Viva 2008 and let us collect ideas
	and suggestions
Message-ID: <f89206d80707180338g206b9572t4973ca829ca3cfd4@mail.gmail.com>

Dear

I have unfortunately not been able to attend this 2007 edition of
Europython, but I was reported that was very good, and well organized.

Most of you have probably good ideas of what went well and what needs
attention or amelioration, and all you contributions and ideas would
be most welcome to prepare the next edition, that will also be (as far
as I understood) organized in Vilnius, reproducing the good "2 years
at the same location"
cycle.

Please add your ideas and contributions while you still have them
fresh in mind to

http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2008

(the general wiki of Europython is http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython )

Much thanks and good holidays for the lucky ones (like me) who shall have some,

Nicolas

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From kitblake at gmail.com  Wed Jul 18 12:57:16 2007
From: kitblake at gmail.com (kit BLAKE)
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 12:57:16 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EP 2007 is over. Viva 2008 and let us collect
	ideas and suggestions
In-Reply-To: <f89206d80707180338g206b9572t4973ca829ca3cfd4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <f89206d80707180338g206b9572t4973ca829ca3cfd4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <32a4a00c0707180357q21826705ya159d1377fbfd7d7@mail.gmail.com>

2007/7/18, Nicolas Pettiaux <nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be>:
> I have unfortunately not been able to attend this 2007 edition of
> Europython, but I was reported that was very good, and well organized.

Yes, kudos and thanks to the organizers, job well done and appreciated!

Kit

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From cs at comlounge.net  Thu Jul 19 14:47:30 2007
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:47:30 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] YouTube and Blogs
Message-ID: <469F5D62.9010208@comlounge.net>

Hi!

I just saw that some people also uploaded some videos to YouTube. That's 
great! :-) But in order to find them all please make sure you also tag 
them with "europython2007" so you can watch them all.

Here is a fulltext search:
http://youtube.com/results?search_query=europython+2007&search=

(if you have some video done with your photo or video camera, please 
think about posting it!)

If you are blogging about it, make also sure you tag the posts 
accordingly with this technorati tag:

<a href="http://technorati.com/tag/europython2007" rel="tag" 
class="techtag">europython2007</a>

That way one can find all the posts about EuroPython easily:

http://technorati.com/posts/tag/europython2007
(it's only me right now but I am sure you can change this, right? :-)

Looking forward to more videos, photos, posts etc.

cheers,

Christian

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From lac at openend.se  Fri Jul 20 12:21:28 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:21:28 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] invoices all sent
Message-ID: <200707201021.l6KALSeo016155@theraft.openend.se>

I just sent out invoices for all the people who did not register at the
door.  Let me know if there are any problems.

Laura

From ct at gocept.com  Fri Jul 20 12:48:03 2007
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:48:03 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] invoices all sent
In-Reply-To: <200707201021.l6KALSeo016155@theraft.openend.se>
References: <200707201021.l6KALSeo016155@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <1184928483.6519.5.camel@mindy>

Am Freitag, den 20.07.2007, 12:21 +0200 schrieb Laura Creighton:
> I just sent out invoices for all the people who did not register at the
> door.  Let me know if there are any problems.

BTW: What's the rule for the people who paid at the door but registered
online? (Bad people like me.)

Christian


From lac at openend.se  Fri Jul 20 13:01:44 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:01:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] invoices all sent
In-Reply-To: Message from Christian Theune <ct@gocept.com> 
	of "Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:48:03 +0200." <1184928483.6519.5.camel@mindy> 
References: <200707201021.l6KALSeo016155@theraft.openend.se>
	<1184928483.6519.5.camel@mindy> 
Message-ID: <200707201101.l6KB1iTX024658@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:48:03 +0200, Christian Theune writes:
>Am Freitag, den 20.07.2007, 12:21 +0200 schrieb Laura Creighton:
>> I just sent out invoices for all the people who did not register at the
>> door.  Let me know if there are any problems.
>
>BTW: What's the rule for the people who paid at the door but registered
>online? (Bad people like me.)
>
>Christian

Since you signed my book, I know that you paid.  So you don't have to
do anything more.  If you happened to be a doubly-bad-boy, who
registered but did not pay, then paid at the door, but never signed my
book saying that you paid ... well, sometime next week, I would
send you a *YOU OWE US MONEY* letter.  And you could start trying to
talk yourself out of having to pay twice.

The reason that it is next week, and not _today_ is that I want to give
time for the 'my university forgot to pay' people to get their late
payments in, and that I have a large number of people who paid and
never registered to deal with first.  So you could sneak your payment
in today, and I probably wouldn't notice what a bad boy you have been.

Laura


From ct at gocept.com  Fri Jul 20 13:10:09 2007
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:10:09 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] invoices all sent
In-Reply-To: <200707201101.l6KB1iTX024658@theraft.openend.se>
References: <200707201021.l6KALSeo016155@theraft.openend.se>
	<1184928483.6519.5.camel@mindy>
	<200707201101.l6KB1iTX024658@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <1184929809.6519.7.camel@mindy>

Am Freitag, den 20.07.2007, 13:01 +0200 schrieb Laura Creighton:
> In a message of Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:48:03 +0200, Christian Theune writes:
> >Am Freitag, den 20.07.2007, 12:21 +0200 schrieb Laura Creighton:
> >> I just sent out invoices for all the people who did not register at the
> >> door.  Let me know if there are any problems.
> >
> >BTW: What's the rule for the people who paid at the door but registered
> >online? (Bad people like me.)
> >
> >Christian
> 
> Since you signed my book, I know that you paid.  So you don't have to
> do anything more.  If you happened to be a doubly-bad-boy, who
> registered but did not pay, then paid at the door, but never signed my
> book saying that you paid ... well, sometime next week, I would
> send you a *YOU OWE US MONEY* letter.  And you could start trying to
> talk yourself out of having to pay twice.

:) No, I pretty sure I haven't been a doubly-bad-boy. ;)

Christian


From lac at openend.se  Fri Jul 20 13:16:12 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 13:16:12 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] invoices all sent
In-Reply-To: Message from Christian Theune <ct@gocept.com> 
	of "Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:48:03 +0200." <1184928483.6519.5.camel@mindy> 
References: <200707201021.l6KALSeo016155@theraft.openend.se>
	<1184928483.6519.5.camel@mindy> 
Message-ID: <200707201116.l6KBGCY4029467@theraft.openend.se>

I sent out the invoices without a text/plain part, just the pdf.
It turns out that kmail gets confused about that and refuses to
display the pdf, even though it's there.  Sorry about that.  I
will fix my script.

Laura Creighton


From lac at openend.se  Mon Jul 23 10:42:24 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:42:24 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] To Oskar Stuffer
Message-ID: <200707230842.l6N8gOok008960@theraft.openend.se>


I cannot send you any mail, so this is why you haven't received your invoice.
Here is what happens when I try:

The original message was received at Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:20:59 +0200
from localhost [127.0.0.1]

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<oskar at sad.it>
    (reason: 550 5.7.1 <oskar at sad.it>... Relaying denied)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to janus2.sad.it.:
>>> RCPT To:<oskar at sad.it>
<<< 450 Rcpt to <oskar at sad.it> - Temporary local problem - I said try later
<oskar at sad.it>... Deferred: 450 Rcpt to <oskar at sad.it> - Temporary local proble
m - I said try later
... while talking to relay.iunet.it.:
>>> RCPT To:<oskar at sad.it>
<<< 550 5.7.1 <oskar at sad.it>... Relaying denied
550 5.1.1 <oskar at sad.it>... User unknown

.....

Your 'temporary local problem' has persisted for several days.

Laura

From steve at canonical.com  Wed Jul 25 01:13:22 2007
From: steve at canonical.com (Steve Alexander)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:13:22 -0700
Subject: [EuroPython] volunteer-announce list now running
Message-ID: <46A68792.8090002@canonical.com>

Hi EuroPython people,

About 33 people have signed up as interested in volunteering for
specific tasks to do with improving or organising EuroPython.

If anyone else wants to sign up, this is the mailing list.

  http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-volunteer-announce

The list is for announcements only, no discussion, no replies.  I expect
no more than one email per week.

We're setting up a europython-improve list for people who are actively
working on particular things to coordinate the work.

I encourage anyone who has time or skills to offer to EuroPython to
subscribe to europython-volunteer-announce, so that you'll hear about
what we need help on.

-- 
Steve Alexander

From info at egenix.com  Thu Jul 26 17:16:41 2007
From: info at egenix.com (eGenix Team: M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 17:16:41 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] ANN: eGenix EuroPython 2007 Presentations & Videos
Message-ID: <46A8BAD9.10703@egenix.com>

________________________________________________________________________


          eGenix EuroPython 2007 Presentations & Videos

________________________________________________________________________

eGenix is pleased to announce the immediate availability of PDF and
Flash video versions of the presentations we gave at this years
EuroPython 2007 conference in Vilnius.

This announcement is also available on our web-site for online reading:
http://www.egenix.com/company/news/EuroPython-2007-Presentations.html
________________________________________________________________________

INTRODUCTION

The EuroPython Conference is the one of the premier conferences for
Python & Zope users and developers. This year it was being held from
the 9th to 11th July in Vilnius, Lithuania.

eGenix was one of the founding members of the EuroPython conference
team and played a major role in organizing the first EuroPython
conference in the year 2002.

Since then we have attended every EuroPython conference to meet up
face-to-face with the people from the Python & Zope communities and
have given regular talks at these conferences.

________________________________________________________________________

TALKS AT EUROPYTHON 2007

We gave the following two talks at the conference. The presentations
are available for viewing and download from our Presentations and
Talks section:

        http://www.egenix.com/library/presentations/

As special feature, we have added talk videos in addition to providing
the slide PDFs. You can view the talks online if you have the Adobe
Flash Player 8 or later installed.

* Parsing Languages with mxTextTools

mxTextTools comes with a high performance Tagging Engine for text and
Unicode
data which can be used to tokenize and parse languages. The resulting
abstract
syntax tree can then be hooked up to a generator to build a complete and
fast
compiler in pure Python. The talk gives a short introduction to the way the
mxTextTools Tagging Engine works and how it can be used to build compilers.
mxTextTools is an eGenix Open Source product available as part of the
eGenix mx
Base Distribution.

* An introduction to working with relational databases from Zope

Although Zope has been around for quite a while, it continues to find
new users
particularly amongst non-programmers who are looking for a way to work with
existing data which is usually in some relational database (PostgreSQL,
MySQL,
MS SQL, Oracle, DB2, etc.). One of the reasons for this is that Zope
provides an
extremely powerful, yet secure, through-the-web programming environment.

The presentation is directed towards new users and will provide a brief
introduction by example into the Zope way of doing things. At the same
time it
highlights how working within Zope is automatic training in good programming
methodology: data management is delegated to ZSQL methods, PythonScripts
act as
controllers and Zope Page Templates provide the views. Together they
encourage
modularity and reusability. The sample application and database are
available
for download.

Enjoy,
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>>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ...        http://www.egenix.com/ 
>>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ...             http://zope.egenix.com/ 
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From paul at boddie.org.uk  Fri Jul 27 01:45:11 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 01:45:11 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Future of EuroPython discussions
Message-ID: <200707270145.11907.paul@boddie.org.uk>

It seems like so long ago already, but I'd like to thank everyone involved in 
EuroPython 2007, not only those who put a lot of work into organising things, 
but of course everyone who attended the conference and provided us with many 
interesting talks and discussions on a range of subjects. I'd also like to 
thank those who offered suggestions and advice about making EuroPython 2008 
even better, both inside the session reserved for that purpose as well as in 
informal conversations during and after the main event. Having just returned 
from another, much larger and more commercial conference, I'm in the mood for 
reflecting somewhat on conferences and what makes (or should make) EuroPython 
as special as it has been in the years I've been there.

In the run-up to EuroPython, the issue of attendance came up a few times: how 
many people would we get, and would it be as many as last year? I don't think 
I'm sharing secret information by saying that there were probably around 
220-230 people in attendance this year, versus 280-300 people last year. 
However, I don't think we should regard this as a sign of defeat or decline 
for the Python community, since there are more conferences this year, 
including a number of successful regional Python conferences in Europe (PyCon 
Italia apparently being well-attended and PyCon UK looking very promising at 
this stage). Moreover, even at the larger size EuroPython remains an event on 
a "human" scale, in contrast to the conference from which I have just 
returned which had 2000 attendees and where you often couldn't find anyone 
you knew in the breaks because there were probably three or four venues for 
coffee or lunch! A certain Web technology community supposedly had a 1600 
person event this year, and I imagine that Java events routinely surpass 
that. On such scales, the organisers can certainly brag a lot more and bring 
in many corporate delegates, but such an agenda for the Python conferences 
would destroy the genuine community aspects of them - the attendance fee 
might not be the biggest cost at EuroPython now, but these megaconferences 
with a ticket price of 600 EUR or more certainly don't seem compatible with 
EuroPython to me. So, although one can look with envy at PyCon's 580 person 
level of attendance, I think it's actually something to be worried about as 
an organiser.

One thing that was said quite a bit in conversations is that Vilnius is a 
really nice venue - something which might not have been fully appreciated by 
those putting together their conference travel plans earlier in the year, but 
which is surely communicated by the many photos made available by various 
participants. As has already been mentioned, it would be nice to have people 
license their photos appropriately so that we can show off the venue a bit 
more in the promotional channels for the conference. All these Python people 
who have now been to Vilnius can use their materials help persuade others to 
join them for EuroPython 2008. ;-) In a wider sense of promoting EuroPython 
and related events, perhaps we should consider making better use of 
europython.org to show people what happened in previous conferences in order 
to generate enthusiasm for those which are to come. The message for anyone 
who wants to see a better EuroPython site, even to come up with fancy ideas 
and implementations, is that the time is now to start such work, well before 
the next conference and with enough time to play with to find out what works 
and what doesn't.

On a related topic with some technological content, I'd like to see a longer 
registration period and I'm sure we'd all like more of the menial tasks taken 
care of by the technology. The first point is related to a suspicion that I 
had which was confirmed in conversation after the conference: insiders may be 
very confident that everything is going according to plan and that we all 
might as well book our flights and hotels, but there's nothing more 
reassuring that being able to book your place at the conference well in 
advance, rather than running the risk that after booking travel and 
accommodation, the conference is suddenly full. As for the technology, and 
having been "Indico's reluctant bodyguard", I think that everyone whose 
workload could have been reduced by the technology needs to consider 
improvements and replacements well in advance of next year, too. And since 
ultimately humans are really responsible for the organisation (as Jacob's 
long list of jobs showed), we need to think about who does what and how they 
do it. We must not forget the end-users, either: having recently seen some of 
the verbose output from commercial conference organisers, we need to give 
participants concise information about their conference agenda/experience.

Before the conference, I started a Wiki page about improvements to how 
EuroPython is organised:

http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/SuggestionBox

I don't recall whether Jacob's list made it to the wider Internet, but the two 
are somewhat complementary. The "Call For Organisers" has really already 
happened, I suppose, but it would be great if through this mailing list and 
via the above page we can get a good idea of how we can make EuroPython and 
related events more attractive and accessible to the community in such a way 
that we have enough time to act on our intentions.

I almost can't wait until next year's conference, but I look forward to 
hearing some opinions about the future of EuroPython now. ;-)

Paul

P.S. And if presenters could work their magic with Indico and upload their 
slides, we can make a start on communicating what happened in Vilnius with 
the wider community.

From sweskman at gmail.com  Fri Jul 27 13:57:18 2007
From: sweskman at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kristj=E1n_Valur_J=F3nsson?=)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:57:18 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] still missing invoices from EuroPython 2007
Message-ID: <bbe43ad20707270457n24961556s95960e1f6e461585@mail.gmail.com>

Hello there.
I and my colleague, Kristj?n Valur J?nsson (kristjan at ccpgames.com) and Bj?rn
Swift (bjorns at ccpgames.com) are still missing our invoices after having
registered at the door.  Could you send them to use as soon as possible?
The amount was 700Lt each.

Thanks,
Kristj?n
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From mal at egenix.com  Fri Jul 27 16:29:07 2007
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 16:29:07 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Future of EuroPython discussions
In-Reply-To: <200707270145.11907.paul@boddie.org.uk>
References: <200707270145.11907.paul@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <46AA0133.2060304@egenix.com>

On 2007-07-27 01:45, Paul Boddie wrote:
> It seems like so long ago already, but I'd like to thank everyone involved in 
> EuroPython 2007, not only those who put a lot of work into organising things, 
> but of course everyone who attended the conference and provided us with many 
> interesting talks and discussions on a range of subjects. 

Thanks to you for making it a great event !

> ...
> In the run-up to EuroPython, the issue of attendance came up a few times: how 
> many people would we get, and would it be as many as last year? I don't think 
> I'm sharing secret information by saying that there were probably around 
> 220-230 people in attendance this year, versus 280-300 people last year. 
> However, I don't think we should regard this as a sign of defeat or decline 
> for the Python community,

I think for most part this was due to the location and people not
being aware of how nice Vilnius really is - not so much due to the
level of interest declining.

As with all these community conferences, travel costs are way higher
than the conference costs, so the decision whether to attend or not
is often driven by non-conference factors. Emphasizing the touristic
attractions likely helps in that decision.

> since there are more conferences this year, 
> including a number of successful regional Python conferences in Europe (PyCon 
> Italia apparently being well-attended and PyCon UK looking very promising at 
> this stage). Moreover, even at the larger size EuroPython remains an event on 
> a "human" scale, in contrast to the conference from which I have just 
> returned which had 2000 attendees and where you often couldn't find anyone 
> you knew in the breaks because there were probably three or four venues for 
> coffee or lunch! A certain Web technology community supposedly had a 1600 
> person event this year, and I imagine that Java events routinely surpass 
> that. On such scales, the organisers can certainly brag a lot more and bring 
> in many corporate delegates, but such an agenda for the Python conferences 
> would destroy the genuine community aspects of them - the attendance fee 
> might not be the biggest cost at EuroPython now, but these megaconferences 
> with a ticket price of 600 EUR or more certainly don't seem compatible with 
> EuroPython to me. So, although one can look with envy at PyCon's 580 person 
> level of attendance, I think it's actually something to be worried about as 
> an organiser.

How much difference (apart from the upfront costs) does it make if you
have 300 or 400 attendees ?

> ...
> On a related topic with some technological content, I'd like to see a longer 
> registration period and I'm sure we'd all like more of the menial tasks taken 
> care of by the technology. The first point is related to a suspicion that I 
> had which was confirmed in conversation after the conference: insiders may be 
> very confident that everything is going according to plan and that we all 
> might as well book our flights and hotels, but there's nothing more 
> reassuring that being able to book your place at the conference well in 
> advance, rather than running the risk that after booking travel and 
> accommodation, the conference is suddenly full.

Indeed. This has been a problem with all EPC events: the organizers
should make it clear that the event is indeed going to happen - and
do that early on.

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From paul at boddie.org.uk  Sat Jul 28 00:38:27 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 00:38:27 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Future of EuroPython discussions
In-Reply-To: <46AA0133.2060304@egenix.com>
References: <200707270145.11907.paul@boddie.org.uk>
	<46AA0133.2060304@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <200707280038.27347.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Friday 27 July 2007 16:29, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>
> I think for most part this was due to the location and people not
> being aware of how nice Vilnius really is - not so much due to the
> level of interest declining.

True enough. People can't use the same excuses next year. ;-)

> As with all these community conferences, travel costs are way higher
> than the conference costs, so the decision whether to attend or not
> is often driven by non-conference factors. Emphasizing the touristic
> attractions likely helps in that decision.

Indeed. Getting the details published well in advance might help reduce the 
travel costs, too.

[...]

> > the attendance fee might not be the biggest
> > cost at EuroPython now, but these megaconferences with a ticket price of
> > 600 EUR or more certainly don't seem compatible with EuroPython to me.
> > So, although one can look with envy at PyCon's 580 person level of
> > attendance, I think it's actually something to be worried about as an
> > organiser.
>
> How much difference (apart from the upfront costs) does it make if you
> have 300 or 400 attendees ?

I guess from what has been said about PyCon that there isn't that much of a 
difference between 200 and 400 attendees if the venue is big enough. However, 
if PyCon grows much bigger, I imagine that it could affect the choice of 
venue, although I'd have to lurk on the appropriate mailing lists to see how 
exactly - they seem to have a lot of restrictions on such matters already.

What I notice about megaconferences is that they seem intent on getting much 
larger numbers of people, booking presumably very big and expensive venues, 
and encouraging corporate or organisational participation where larger fees 
seem like justifiable expenses, even with the complicated sign-up structure 
and discounts. Perhaps genuine community events can scale to the same level, 
and I'd be interested to hear of any that have done so, but I'm skeptical 
about the social effects that would result, anyway.

[...]

> Indeed. This has been a problem with all EPC events: the organizers
> should make it clear that the event is indeed going to happen - and
> do that early on.

Early EPC events seemed to generate a lot of buzz, with interviews of 
high-profile participants, and so on. Perhaps we need to do more of that in 
future.

Paul

From xkbgs at rediffmail.com  Mon Jul 30 07:28:54 2007
From: xkbgs at rediffmail.com (Gonzales J.Dolores)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:28:54 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] (no subject)
Message-ID: <46AD7716.3080805@tehnomir.lipetsk.ru>


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From mal at egenix.com  Mon Jul 30 12:34:22 2007
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 12:34:22 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Future of EuroPython discussions
In-Reply-To: <200707280038.27347.paul@boddie.org.uk>
References: <200707270145.11907.paul@boddie.org.uk>	<46AA0133.2060304@egenix.com>
	<200707280038.27347.paul@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <46ADBEAE.70108@egenix.com>

On 2007-07-28 00:38, Paul Boddie wrote:
> On Friday 27 July 2007 16:29, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> I think for most part this was due to the location and people not
>> being aware of how nice Vilnius really is - not so much due to the
>> level of interest declining.
> 
> True enough. People can't use the same excuses next year. ;-)
> 
>> As with all these community conferences, travel costs are way higher
>> than the conference costs, so the decision whether to attend or not
>> is often driven by non-conference factors. Emphasizing the touristic
>> attractions likely helps in that decision.
> 
> Indeed. Getting the details published well in advance might help reduce the 
> travel costs, too.

Right. Booking two months in advance usually pays off. However,
this is only possible if you know that the event is going to
happen and what the major events of interest are, e.g. key notes,
whether the last day is a complete conference day or not, sprints before
or after the conference, etc.

Fixing those key details early on will make both your work as organizer
and attendee decisions easier.

And it doesn't take much: just set the deadline for talk submission
to 4 months before the conference, publish the (preliminary) conference
agenda two weeks later. Then use the talk submissions for PR - after all
that's what people are mostly interested in.

> [...]
> 
>>> the attendance fee might not be the biggest
>>> cost at EuroPython now, but these megaconferences with a ticket price of
>>> 600 EUR or more certainly don't seem compatible with EuroPython to me.
>>> So, although one can look with envy at PyCon's 580 person level of
>>> attendance, I think it's actually something to be worried about as an
>>> organiser.
>> How much difference (apart from the upfront costs) does it make if you
>> have 300 or 400 attendees ?
> 
> I guess from what has been said about PyCon that there isn't that much of a 
> difference between 200 and 400 attendees if the venue is big enough. However, 
> if PyCon grows much bigger, I imagine that it could affect the choice of 
> venue, although I'd have to lurk on the appropriate mailing lists to see how 
> exactly - they seem to have a lot of restrictions on such matters already.
> 
> What I notice about megaconferences is that they seem intent on getting much 
> larger numbers of people, booking presumably very big and expensive venues, 
> and encouraging corporate or organisational participation where larger fees 
> seem like justifiable expenses, even with the complicated sign-up structure 
> and discounts. Perhaps genuine community events can scale to the same level, 
> and I'd be interested to hear of any that have done so, but I'm skeptical 
> about the social effects that would result, anyway.

IMHO, EuroPython still has a lot of room before those issues become
relevant. Note that bigger venues do not necessarily cost a lot
more per attendee, but it's harder to find suitable places.

That said, I like the reasonable size of EPC events :-)

> [...]
> 
>> Indeed. This has been a problem with all EPC events: the organizers
>> should make it clear that the event is indeed going to happen - and
>> do that early on.
> 
> Early EPC events seemed to generate a lot of buzz, with interviews of 
> high-profile participants, and so on. Perhaps we need to do more of that in 
> future.

Those interviews were nice to attract people to the web-site, but
in the end, if you don't have anything else to present on the
site, most importantly a conference program, then you don't
really benefit from the added attention.

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From cs at comlounge.net  Tue Jul 31 11:23:08 2007
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 11:23:08 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] First EuroPython videos available
Message-ID: <46AEFF7C.8040008@comlounge.net>

Hi there!

First of all again thanks for the great conference, it was a pleasure to 
be there and I am looking forward to next year :-)

And the first 3 videos from the conference from me are available right 
now with more in the making.

http://comlounge.tv has them and it's:

Episode 26: Simon Willison and his keynote about OpenID
Episode 27: David Axmark about how to optimize MySQL
Episode 28: Jodok Batlogg about High Performance Zope 3 with NGINX and 
Varnish

Right now I am working on some lightning talks which should show up 
later this week.

Hope you enjoy and spread them :-)
(and somebody maybe tell David, not sure he is reading here. Maybe it's 
of interest to him)

best regards,

Christian


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From anders.noklestad at iln.uio.no  Tue Jul 31 16:31:18 2007
From: anders.noklestad at iln.uio.no (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_N=F8klestad?=)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:31:18 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration payment receipt
Message-ID: <aa7796ab0707310731i42de9f28x250b663a94dd224a@mail.gmail.com>

Dear conference organizers,

First of all, thanks for organizing a great conference :)

I don't mean to hassle you, but I am just wondering how it is coming
along with the sending of receipts for on-site registration. I paid
the 700 LTL and put my mail address in the book, and I would
appreciate it very much if you could send me my receipt fairly soon.

Best wishes
Anders N?klestad
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University of Oslo, P.O.Box. 1102 Blindern, 0317 Oslo, Norway
Phone.: +47 22 85 82 18, Fax: +47 22 85 69 19
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