From paul at boddie.org.uk Tue May 1 14:34:49 2007 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 14:34:49 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Calendar Updates Message-ID: <200705011434.50174.paul@boddie.org.uk> Hello, After yesterday's IRC meeting, it was more or less decided that registration will need to be put back by about a week. I have updated the calendar to indicate this change of plan and also indicate that (some of) the keynote speakers will be announced at the same time. See here for the minutes of the meeting: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/IrcMeetings/IrcMeeting8 The Web site is, of course, here: http://www.europython.org/ Let's attempt to meet on IRC next Monday in order to get things back on schedule. Paul From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Tue May 1 19:03:50 2007 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 19:03:50 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsors: Who has contact to Microsoft Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705011003q3018e323ib0b5d207fb1ee551@mail.gmail.com> Hello EuroPythonistas, we already have 2 very interesting talk proposals from people with @ microsoft.com mailadresses. Who has contacts to offer Microsoft the option to be a sponsor? Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 fx 01212-5-13695179 - Python: the only language with more web frameworks than keywords. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20070501/fa7351c9/attachment.htm From paul at boddie.org.uk Mon May 7 00:08:16 2007 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 00:08:16 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] IRC Meeting on Monday 7th May Message-ID: <200705070008.16694.paul@boddie.org.uk> Reminding everyone that an IRC meeting was suggested for today, Monday 7th May (2007-05-07): Time: 18:00 CEST (17:00 BST, 16:00 UTC/GMT) (5pm UK time, 6pm in most of Western Europe) Location: the #europython IRC channel on freenode.net Agenda: see the following page... http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/IrcMeetings/IrcMeeting9 From cs at comlounge.net Mon May 7 13:01:10 2007 From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz) Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 13:01:10 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Videostreamin' ? Message-ID: <463F06F6.9070303@comlounge.net> Hi there! I wanted to propose to stream parts of the conference live via internet and eventually Second Life. I'd bring the camera anyway and streaming can be done either via http://ustream.tv (very easy setup, just plugin the camera and click the Record button, flash plugin) and/or via Quicktime Streaming Server. The latter would be needed for livestreaming it into Second Life (which I would take care of). The advantages - possibility for people who cannot attend to attend virtually - marketing for Python (if there are enough viewers then ustream.tv might put this stream also on the frontpage) - if we do Second Life we might get some blog and link love from the Second Life community. - feedback from the outside. For each ustream channel there is an IRC channel and a Java applet attached to the stream (plus you can also show the stream on your own page via embed). In Second Life people could do the same. What is needed? - best would be a network cable (wifi was too flaky at the Plone conference) and a power connection for laptop and camera - for Quicktime it would be cool if somebody could provide a server with Darwin Streaming Server installed. ustream.tv should work out of the box but cannot be shown in Second Life. This server should have a good connection of course (I had problems with my Strato server back then when I did this in Seattle for the Plone Conference) What I would do - setup the location in Second Life, do the Second Life marketing (I'd need a press release) - setup ustream channel etc. - do the work at the conference (help would be appreciated though) Unfortunately one can only do one thing, stream to ustream or Second Life. If we want to do both, we'd need 2 cameras and 2 laptops. OTOH if we do quicktime we can do both, Second Life and webpage, but QT seems usually a bit flaky and might not always work while flash video seems more stable to me. So the question is, if there is interest. For the Plone conference at least there was interest and we also had some visitors at the Second Life booth and I know that people wanted to watch it at least via the web (and unfortunately it did not always work). If there is interest, I'd be happy to do that but of course any help would be greatly appreciated. Cheers, Christian -- Christian Scholz video blog: http://comlounge.tv COM.lounge blog: http://mrtopf.de/blog Luetticher Strasse 10 Skype: HerrTopf 52064 Aachen Homepage: http://comlounge.net Tel: +49 241 400 730 0 Fax: +49 241 979 00 850 EMail: cs at comlounge.net IRC: MrTopf on irc.freenode.net, Tao_T on irc.efnet.org Second Life Nick: Tao Takashi Second Life Blog: http://taotakashi.wordpress.com See me at video blogging week 2007: http://mrtopf.tv From paul at boddie.org.uk Tue May 8 01:33:30 2007 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 01:33:30 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Preparations Message-ID: <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk> Hello, I have been making preparations for the opening of registration, following the schedule as closely as possible. However, before we actually open registration a few things need finalising: * Payment information - this may need reviewing both on the Web site and in the Indico e-payments module. IBAN: SE76 8000 0810 5903 7676 5343 BIC/SWIFT: SWEDSESS Bank Name: Swedbank Bank Address: 105 34 Stockholm Bank Country: Sweden Recipient Name: Europython Society Recipient Address: c/o AB Strakt, Norra ?gatan 10, SE-416 64 G?teborg, Sweden * Any objections to the fees need to be made. See the following page for details: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/FeeStructureAttendees * The special accommodation details need clarifying: a form (an Excel original, I believe, plus something like PDF) was mentioned, but a booking code for the hotel site was also considered a possibility. * An audit of the Indico registration is needed. Benedikt?! A few other things: * The Call For Sponsors should be issued soon - this needs reviewing, then pushing out via the usual channels: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/CallForSponsors * We need a keynote speaker announcement - the Web site has a small news item ready with details of GvR plus keynote #1, but what about keynote #2? (Pictures of keynotes #1 and #2 are sought. We could also just push out the Web version, but it wouldn't be as nice as a proper announcement.) * A registration announcement is needed. However, it may be acceptable to just adapt the Web version when it gets published since it's quite comprehensive. Your thoughts? Paul From lac at openend.se Tue May 8 12:51:37 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 12:51:37 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Preparations In-Reply-To: Message from Paul Boddie of "Tue, 08 May 2007 01:33:30 +0200." <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <200705081051.l48Apbq4021075@theraft.openend.se> In a message of Tue, 08 May 2007 01:33:30 +0200, Paul Boddie writes: > * Payment information - this may need reviewing both on the Web site an >d in > the Indico e-payments module. > > IBAN: SE76 8000 0810 5903 7676 5343 > BIC/SWIFT: SWEDSESS > Bank Name: Swedbank > Bank Address: 105 34 Stockholm > Bank Country: Sweden > Recipient Name: Europython Society > Recipient Address: c/o AB Strakt, Norra ?gatan 10, SE-416 64 G?teborg, > Sweden Our company name has changed. c/o Open End AB Norra ?gatan 10A (the building has 3 doors and now letters on the building doors, too.) Laura From aiste at pov.lt Tue May 8 13:33:01 2007 From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 14:33:01 +0300 Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel registration form Message-ID: <20070508113259.GC11850@lucky> Hi, If you want to book the conference hotel you need a form that will be posted on EP website. The registration form for the hotel needs to be emailed or faxed to the hotel (contact info is given on the form). Unfortunatelly registering online you won't get the dicount. Also the hotel asked for a deadline to be set for registration -- 1st of June. Also there are good news about internet connection -- it can be improved, at the moment they have a 2 mbit connection and I am waiting for information on how much can this be increased. -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Tue May 8 13:25:43 2007 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 13:25:43 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Preparations In-Reply-To: <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <8FD5B5AA-C085-4BDA-A082-AE6076A8A64E@cern.ch> Hi Paul, > * An audit of the Indico registration is needed. Benedikt?! Seems to be fine. Only two points: For the epayment we have to check if the online account information is still up to date (at least it's identical to last year's) And I remember that someone suggested removing paypal... I don't know if the accommodation possibilities make any sense. But I assume they are correct I will make some dummy registrations later on. So don't be surprised. Cheers, Benedikt From micahel at gmail.com Tue May 8 13:59:13 2007 From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson) Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:59:13 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Preparations In-Reply-To: <8FD5B5AA-C085-4BDA-A082-AE6076A8A64E@cern.ch> References: <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk> <8FD5B5AA-C085-4BDA-A082-AE6076A8A64E@cern.ch> Message-ID: On 08/05/07, Benedikt Hegner wrote: > Hi Paul, > > > * An audit of the Indico registration is needed. Benedikt?! > Seems to be fine. Only two points: > For the epayment we have to check if the online account information > is still up to date (at least it's identical to last year's) And I > remember that someone suggested removing paypal... > I don't know if the accommodation possibilities make any sense. But I > assume they are correct I think we should keep paypal, it was used by a few people last year. Cheers, mwh From cl2dlope at gmail.com Tue May 8 14:02:38 2007 From: cl2dlope at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 14:02:38 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Preparations In-Reply-To: References: <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk> <8FD5B5AA-C085-4BDA-A082-AE6076A8A64E@cern.ch> Message-ID: <464066DE.2060808@gmail.com> Michael Hudson said the following on 05/08/2007 01:59 PM: > On 08/05/07, Benedikt Hegner wrote: >> Hi Paul, >> >>> * An audit of the Indico registration is needed. Benedikt?! >> Seems to be fine. Only two points: >> For the epayment we have to check if the online account information >> is still up to date (at least it's identical to last year's) And I >> remember that someone suggested removing paypal... >> I don't know if the accommodation possibilities make any sense. But I >> assume they are correct > > I think we should keep paypal, it was used by a few people last year. > I almost forgot: We need to remember that about 5-6% of each transaction is consumed by fees to paypal, worldpay, banking, etc. I forgot to include that in the budget template that I send to Aiste, but we need to take that into consideration. /dario -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. Lyrics applied to programming & application design: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley From paul at boddie.org.uk Wed May 9 01:07:53 2007 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 01:07:53 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Status Message-ID: <200705090107.53989.paul@boddie.org.uk> Hello, The preparations for registration are mostly complete. Here is what has been done (with links for CPS users): * Registration information has been updated and made ready on the site: http://www.europython.org/workspaces/ep-2007/how-to-register * Payment information has been updated and is ready in Indico and on the site for the "pay later" (ie. after registration) option. Benedikt will fill in the remaining details for e-payments in Indico tomorrow. http://www.europython.org/workspaces/ep-2007/payment-information * No-one has contested the fees, but there's still time. ;-) http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/FeeStructureAttendees * Special accommodation details are ready on the site. These will be published when registration opens, unless someone thinks that they can be published immediately (or as soon as I can manage it). People tell me that the 50 room figure was a commitment, not a limit - if there's no real or clear limit, we should find out soon so that the registration process doesn't scare people with a rapidly decreasing number (like last year). http://www.europython.org/workspaces/ep-2007/booking-information * Benedikt has been checking the Indico stuff and seems to be satisfied. Thanks go to him for doing the scary technical stuff in this department! If all goes well, we should be pushing out the registration, payment and special accommodation pages to the site fairly soon (perhaps within 24 hours) and switching on the registration parts of Indico. Then it'll be time to announce registration in all the usual places: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/PublicRelations Following on from the last message, comments on the Call For Sponsors, as well as any pictures and details of keynote speakers are still very welcome. Paul From aiste at pov.lt Wed May 9 14:56:40 2007 From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite) Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 15:56:40 +0300 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Status In-Reply-To: <200705090107.53989.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <200705090107.53989.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <20070509125638.GB14233@lucky> Hi all, > * Special accommodation details are ready on the site. These will be > published when registration opens, unless someone thinks that they can be > published immediately (or as soon as I can manage it). People tell me that > the 50 room figure was a commitment, not a limit - if there's no real or > clear limit, we should find out soon so that the registration process > doesn't scare people with a rapidly decreasing number (like last year). > > http://www.europython.org/workspaces/ep-2007/booking-information It is not a hard limit. So far, they have allocated 50 rooms for the conference, but if they have more rooms free -- we can have them. -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt From mal at egenix.com Fri May 11 13:06:22 2007 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:06:22 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Status In-Reply-To: <200705090107.53989.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <200705090107.53989.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <46444E2E.20503@egenix.com> On 2007-05-09 01:07, Paul Boddie wrote: > * No-one has contested the fees, but there's still time. ;-) > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/FeeStructureAttendees The student rates seem quite high given that the conference is in Vilnius. How do you expect Lithuanian/Russian/Belorussian/etc. students to be able to attend the conference with those student rates ? Note that you can't compare this to PyCon or other years with the conference in different parts of Europe. Students there usually have a lot more to spend. In e.g. Belarus by contrast, people often have to live a whole month on EUR 100. Regards, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, May 11 2007) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ :::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,MacOSX for free ! :::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 From jonny at sharebear.co.uk Sun May 13 16:33:02 2007 From: jonny at sharebear.co.uk (Jonathan Share) Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 16:33:02 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration information Message-ID: <4647219E.70005@sharebear.co.uk> Hi, http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues says "Information on fees, the registration process, payment and accommodation will be posted below once registration is open." According to http://www.europython.org/sections/calendar "8th May: Registration opens" I also note that keynote speakers have not yet been announced as scheduled. Are you just behind schedule with preparations or is the event dead? Kind Regards, Jon From paul at boddie.org.uk Mon May 14 00:25:18 2007 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 00:25:18 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration information In-Reply-To: <4647219E.70005@sharebear.co.uk> References: <4647219E.70005@sharebear.co.uk> Message-ID: <200705140025.19537.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Sunday 13 May 2007 16:33, Jonathan Share wrote: > > Are you just behind schedule with preparations or is the event dead? We're just behind schedule with preparations and can only offer our apologies for not rolling everything out in a more timely fashion. Paul From david at boddie.org.uk Mon May 14 01:44:06 2007 From: david at boddie.org.uk (David Boddie) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 01:44:06 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 IRC Meeting #10 (2007-05-14) Message-ID: <200705140144.07055.david@boddie.org.uk> Just a reminder that there's another IRC meeting today, Monday 14th May (2007-05-14) 18:00 CEST (17:00 BST, 16:00 UTC/GMT) in the #europython channel on freenode.net. That's 5pm UK time, 6pm in most of Western Europe. The suggested duration of the meeting is at most one hour. Agenda: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/IrcMeetings/IrcMeeting10 David From lozinski at freerecruiting.com Mon May 14 05:21:17 2007 From: lozinski at freerecruiting.com (Christopher Lozinski) Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 20:21:17 -0700 Subject: [EuroPython] Thank you for hosting the euro python conference Message-ID: <4647D5AD.8030107@freerecruiting.com> Would you be willing to host our python job market widget on your site? http://python.specialtyjobmarkets.com/Resumes/Widgets Can we talk about this? Regards Chris 508 275 0686 California time zone. From rozita.raissi at gmail.com Mon May 14 07:50:44 2007 From: rozita.raissi at gmail.com (Rozita) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:20:44 +0330 Subject: [EuroPython] Help for visa Message-ID: <004401c795eb$d1b37240$0f00a8c0@rvm> Hi Sir/Madam, I'm a Python programmer from Iran. I'm eager to attend the europython conference. Because there is no consulate or embassy for Lithuania in Iran, I can not take visa for my trip from Iran. Would you please guide me and let me know how I can prepare the visa? Regards, Rozita Raissi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20070514/0bbd7b79/attachment.html From tim at timhatch.com Mon May 14 15:33:40 2007 From: tim at timhatch.com (Tim Hatch) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 08:33:40 -0500 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration for Europython? Message-ID: <7BC11E8B-B899-4AC2-9395-EB4A725C7690@timhatch.com> I'm planning a trip from the U.S. and wanted to make sure that Europython is still happening... I haven't seen anything posted on the website about registration yet. Tim From lac at openend.se Mon May 14 15:38:06 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:38:06 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration for Europython? In-Reply-To: Message from Tim Hatch of "Mon, 14 May 2007 08:33:40 CDT." <7BC11E8B-B899-4AC2-9395-EB4A725C7690@timhatch.com> References: <7BC11E8B-B899-4AC2-9395-EB4A725C7690@timhatch.com> Message-ID: <200705141338.l4EDc6JH025058@theraft.openend.se> It is still happening. We apologise for the delays and are working on it. Laura Creighton From paul at boddie.org.uk Mon May 14 20:02:47 2007 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:02:47 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Help for visa In-Reply-To: <004401c795eb$d1b37240$0f00a8c0@rvm> References: <004401c795eb$d1b37240$0f00a8c0@rvm> Message-ID: <200705142002.47253.paul@boddie.org.uk> Hello, > I'm a Python programmer from Iran. I'm eager to attend the europython > conference. Because there is no consulate or embassy for Lithuania in Iran, > I can not take visa for my trip from Iran. Would you please guide me and > let me know how I can prepare the visa? Some searching revealed this list of diplomatic missions from the Lithuanian Ministry of Foreign Affairs: http://www.urm.lt/index.php?195793759 It would seem that the Lithuanian embassy in Turkey is responsible for diplomatic relations with your country: http://tr.mfa.lt Please note that this information is provided as a "best effort" and that further guidance must be sought from the appropriate authorities on such matters. I have no experience in such matters myself and unfortunately cannot provide any more substantial advice, but I hope that this information is a useful starting point. Regards, Paul From mal at egenix.com Tue May 15 23:50:25 2007 From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 23:50:25 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Status In-Reply-To: <46444E2E.20503@egenix.com> References: <200705090107.53989.paul@boddie.org.uk> <46444E2E.20503@egenix.com> Message-ID: <464A2B21.2060409@egenix.com> On 2007-05-11 13:06, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > On 2007-05-09 01:07, Paul Boddie wrote: >> * No-one has contested the fees, but there's still time. ;-) >> >> http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/FeeStructureAttendees > > The student rates seem quite high given that the conference > is in Vilnius. How do you expect Lithuanian/Russian/Belorussian/etc. > students to be able to attend the conference with those student > rates ? > > Note that you can't compare this to PyCon or other years with > the conference in different parts of Europe. Students there > usually have a lot more to spend. > > In e.g. Belarus by contrast, people often have to live a whole month > on EUR 100. Thanks for changing the student rates ! Regards, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg eGenix.com Professional Python Services directly from the Source (#1, May 15 2007) >>> Python/Zope Consulting and Support ... http://www.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC.Zope.Database.Adapter ... http://zope.egenix.com/ >>> mxODBC, mxDateTime, mxTextTools ... http://python.egenix.com/ ________________________________________________________________________ :::: Try mxODBC.Zope.DA for Windows,Linux,Solaris,MacOSX for free ! :::: eGenix.com Software, Skills and Services GmbH Pastor-Loeh-Str.48 D-40764 Langenfeld, Germany. CEO Dipl.-Math. Marc-Andre Lemburg Registered at Amtsgericht Duesseldorf: HRB 46611 From paul at boddie.org.uk Wed May 16 00:55:10 2007 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 00:55:10 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Videostreamin' ? In-Reply-To: <463F06F6.9070303@comlounge.net> References: <463F06F6.9070303@comlounge.net> Message-ID: <200705160055.11138.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Monday 07 May 2007 13:01, Christian Scholz wrote: > > I wanted to propose to stream parts of the conference live via internet > and eventually Second Life. I'd bring the camera anyway and streaming > can be done either via http://ustream.tv (very easy setup, just plugin > the camera and click the Record button, flash plugin) and/or via > Quicktime Streaming Server. The latter would be needed for livestreaming > it into Second Life (which I would take care of). Sorry to leave you waiting for so long without a response! As I've said in various places, I think the FOSDEM videos were done very well, although I only looked at the downloads - I don't know if they did actual streaming - and I have seen streaming from conferences like aKademy done fairly well, too. Here's a page I just saw about this very kind of thing: http://wingolog.org/archives/2006/07/07/so-you-want-to-stream-a-conference However, one very important aspect of the FOSDEM materials, and quite probably the other materials too, was the open format employed. For many users, Quicktime is either inaccessible or involves pacing on the version treadmill set in motion by Apple. And whilst Flash is a widespread phenomenon, it too has similar limitations. This is only my personal opinion, though. If you're enthusiastic about streaming stuff and this is the way you want to do it, then I don't want to rain on your parade. However, if there's all sorts of additional work involved (extra servers, more software), I'd rather see it directed toward providing materials in open formats, myself. This is an interesting idea, though, and I'd like to see it discussed further. Paul From oouc at yahoo.com Wed May 16 07:25:49 2007 From: oouc at yahoo.com (Oouc) Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:25:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [EuroPython] Refereed paper abstract ready to submit. Confused by "summary." Message-ID: <740102.3208.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have an abstract ready to submit. I would like to try for a Refereed Paper. When I saw summary below abstract, I searched for over an hour, slow Internet in Asia, and could not find more information on EuroPython.org. In fact the 3 hits for summary only had abstract but not summary on 2 of them. Google search did the same thing often. Please clarify if a summary is necessary at this point. I usually see abstracts and then the whole paper if I am doing research. Telling me how you plan to use or publish the summary would be helpful. I have an abstract in plain text with hard line ends and another version which is the one line per paragraph which most word processors use. Which one do you want? From arigo at tunes.org Wed May 16 20:04:01 2007 From: arigo at tunes.org (Armin Rigo) Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:04:01 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Refereed paper abstract ready to submit. Confused by "summary." In-Reply-To: <740102.3208.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <740102.3208.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20070516180401.GA18039@code0.codespeak.net> Hi, On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 10:25:49PM -0700, Oouc wrote: > I have an abstract ready to submit. I would like to try for a > Refereed Paper. When I saw summary below abstract, Sorry for the confusion. At this point we only expect an abstract. The summary is optional, and present only because it's the way the submission system that we use (borrowed from the CERN, where last year's EuroPython was held) is organized. > I have an abstract in plain text with hard line ends and another > version which is the one line per paragraph which most word > processors use. Which one do you want? The one line per paragraph version will probably be easier for us to handle uniformly. A bientot, Armin. From duncan at grisby.org Fri May 18 14:53:36 2007 From: duncan at grisby.org (Duncan Grisby) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:53:36 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission problem Message-ID: Hi, I am trying to submit a talk proposal for EuroPython. I signed up for an account on the CERN thing, and it sent me a confirmation email, and I successfully activated the account and chose a password. Unfortunately, I can't login. I enter my email address and password, and it fails saying "Wrong login or password". I tried filling in the password reminder and it hasn't emailed me anything either. What should I do? Serves me right for waiting until the last day, I suppose... Cheers, Duncan. -- -- Duncan Grisby -- -- duncan at grisby.org -- -- http://www.grisby.org -- From cs at comlounge.net Fri May 18 15:36:34 2007 From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:36:34 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Videostreamin' ? In-Reply-To: <200705160055.11138.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <463F06F6.9070303@comlounge.net> <200705160055.11138.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <464DABE2.3070108@comlounge.net> HI! >> I wanted to propose to stream parts of the conference live via internet >> and eventually Second Life. I'd bring the camera anyway and streaming >> can be done either via http://ustream.tv (very easy setup, just plugin >> the camera and click the Record button, flash plugin) and/or via >> Quicktime Streaming Server. The latter would be needed for livestreaming >> it into Second Life (which I would take care of). > > Sorry to leave you waiting for so long without a response! As I've said in > various places, I think the FOSDEM videos were done very well, although I > only looked at the downloads - I don't know if they did actual streaming - > and I have seen streaming from conferences like aKademy done fairly well, > too. Here's a page I just saw about this very kind of thing: > > http://wingolog.org/archives/2006/07/07/so-you-want-to-stream-a-conference > > However, one very important aspect of the FOSDEM materials, and quite probably > the other materials too, was the open format employed. For many users, > Quicktime is either inaccessible or involves pacing on the version treadmill > set in motion by Apple. And whilst Flash is a widespread phenomenon, it too > has similar limitations. > > This is only my personal opinion, though. If you're enthusiastic about > streaming stuff and this is the way you want to do it, then I don't want to > rain on your parade. However, if there's all sorts of additional work > involved (extra servers, more software), I'd rather see it directed toward > providing materials in open formats, myself. Well, I'd rather go with Flash and/or Quicktime just because it's the easiest to setup plus you have directly e.g. a community at ustream.tv which would be exposed to something different and (hopefully) interesting to them. Quicktime would be my other choice because unfortunately Second Life only supports Quicktime streaming at the moment and it would be a nice marketing thing to have it streaming there where people can even meet in front of the screen and discuss about what they just see. (we even shortly had some sort of backchannel from the Second Life world into the Plone conference back in September where Martijn Faassen was in-world and asking (more of a fun question though) to the speakers. So for me it actually would be easiest to stream via flash to ustream as this would only involve a network connection (and eventually a network cable as it is more reliable than Wifi). ustream.tv can also record btw and you can download the videos (as flash videos) afterwards so there is maybe even a way of converting it to other formats. As for Quicktime I probably would need somebody to provide a server with good network connection who is willing to install Darwin Streaming Server on it. This might be the bigger problem I assume so I guess I'd go with ustream.tv. I will of course also record some of the stuff and this can be converted to whatever format afterwards (but also here I usually go with quicktime usually for comlounge.tv as it's supported by the most players out there and esp. on the iPod). I am just not sure how much work this converting might involve and if I will have time for that but I can definitely provide the material so any body could actually step in. Ok, as I will bring my camera anyway we can also see then what is possible and what is not. Everything should be setup fairly quickly. cheers, Christian -- Christian Scholz video blog: http://comlounge.tv COM.lounge blog: http://mrtopf.de/blog Luetticher Strasse 10 Skype: HerrTopf 52064 Aachen Homepage: http://comlounge.net Tel: +49 241 400 730 0 Fax: +49 241 979 00 850 EMail: cs at comlounge.net IRC: MrTopf on irc.freenode.net, Tao_T on irc.efnet.org Second Life Nick: Tao Takashi Second Life Blog: http://taotakashi.wordpress.com ** neues Blog: http://mrtopf.de/blog ** neuer Podcast: http://mrtopf.de/podcast From david at boddie.org.uk Fri May 18 15:25:13 2007 From: david at boddie.org.uk (David Boddie) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:25:13 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission problem Message-ID: <200705181525.13222.david@boddie.org.uk> On Fri May 18 14:53:36 CEST 2007, Duncan Grisby wrote: > I am trying to submit a talk proposal for EuroPython. I signed up for an > account on the CERN thing, and it sent me a confirmation email, and I > successfully activated the account and chose a password. Unfortunately, > I can't login. I enter my email address and password, and it fails > saying "Wrong login or password". I tried filling in the password > reminder and it hasn't emailed me anything either. Did you choose a user name that's different to your e-mail address? When I login, I use my user name and not my e-mail address. David From duncan at grisby.org Fri May 18 15:50:17 2007 From: duncan at grisby.org (Duncan Grisby) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:50:17 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission problem In-Reply-To: <200705181525.13222.david@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: On Friday 18 May, David Boddie wrote: > > I am trying to submit a talk proposal for EuroPython. I signed up for an > > account on the CERN thing, and it sent me a confirmation email, and I > > successfully activated the account and chose a password. Unfortunately, > > I can't login. I enter my email address and password, and it fails > > saying "Wrong login or password". I tried filling in the password > > reminder and it hasn't emailed me anything either. > > Did you choose a user name that's different to your e-mail address? When I > login, I use my user name and not my e-mail address. It didn't give me an opportunity to choose a user name. Thanks for helping, Duncan. -- -- Duncan Grisby -- -- duncan at grisby.org -- -- http://www.grisby.org -- From david at boddie.org.uk Fri May 18 16:24:58 2007 From: david at boddie.org.uk (David Boddie) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 16:24:58 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200705181624.58065.david@boddie.org.uk> On Friday 18 May 2007 15:50, Duncan Grisby wrote: > On Friday 18 May, David Boddie wrote: > > > Did you choose a user name that's different to your e-mail address? When I > > login, I use my user name and not my e-mail address. > > It didn't give me an opportunity to choose a user name. Maybe your user name is the first part of your e-mail address. I don't remember how it worked when I registered last year. You may have to e-mail the support address at the bottom of the login page if you haven't received an e-mail message with your details. David From stefano.masini at pragma2000.com Fri May 18 21:06:37 2007 From: stefano.masini at pragma2000.com (Stefano Masini) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:06:37 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission Message-ID: <1bdedd7a0705181206h7d87baaewda5cba9001fb1d56@mail.gmail.com> Hello, I know I'm terribly late, but I would like to submit a talk, and Indico won't send me a reminder email for my account. I'll try again early tomorrow morning... but just in case, here it is the abstract: A practical example of Test Driven Development for a GUI using wxPython I will show a step by step example of building a small user interface using wxPython. The example will only be marginally related to wxPython itself and, even though previous background won't be necessary, it'll be explained only as much as necessary to understand the rest of the talk. The goal is to show the practice of Test Driven Development. The code will follow the Model View Controller pattern and testing will be making use of mock objects, in order to simulate the View. Thanks! Stefano Masini From stefano.masini at pragma2000.com Fri May 18 23:08:39 2007 From: stefano.masini at pragma2000.com (Stefano Masini) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 23:08:39 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission In-Reply-To: <1bdedd7a0705181206h7d87baaewda5cba9001fb1d56@mail.gmail.com> References: <1bdedd7a0705181206h7d87baaewda5cba9001fb1d56@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1bdedd7a0705181408y31277d67m47917c6b784a0625@mail.gmail.com> Never mind... I got it working on Indico. Thanks stefano On 5/18/07, Stefano Masini wrote: > Hello, > > I know I'm terribly late, but I would like to submit a talk, and > Indico won't send me a reminder email for my account. I'll try again > early tomorrow morning... but just in case, here it is the abstract: > > A practical example of Test Driven Development for a GUI using wxPython > > I will show a step by step example of building a small user interface > using wxPython. > The example will only be marginally related to wxPython itself and, > even though previous > background won't be necessary, it'll be explained only as much as > necessary to understand > the rest of the talk. The goal is to show the practice of Test Driven > Development. The > code will follow the Model View Controller pattern and testing will be > making use of > mock objects, in order to simulate the View. > > Thanks! > Stefano Masini > From jodok at lovelysystems.com Sat May 19 00:45:28 2007 From: jodok at lovelysystems.com (Jodok Batlogg) Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 00:45:28 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] [Zope3-dev] EuroPython talk submission deadline tomorrow! In-Reply-To: <8928d4e90705171215q353e07eco2771d543207b11c0@mail.gmail.com> References: <8928d4e90705171215q353e07eco2771d543207b11c0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6C016A5D-B51F-4219-801F-A6F7E525338D@lovelysystems.com> On 17.05.2007, at 21:15, Martijn Faassen wrote: > Hi there, > > Tomorrow (friday may 18) is the EuroPython talk submission deadline! > So if you are thinking about giving a talk at EuroPython, please > submit it soon! bummer :( i missed the deadline by 38 minutes :( any chance to submit lovely systems proposal via mail? we'd like to talk about "high performance zope3". lovely systems is working on "web2.0 portals" that have pretty heavy load (peak 250 mbit/s, > 1000 concurrent connections). i'll talk about the general architecture goals when running "big" portals based on zope3 (nginx reverse proxies, varnish caches, memcached, ipvs load balancers,...), strategies to monitor and improve zope3 settings (z3monitor, zservertracelog, cache tuning,...), do and don'ts we'll also release some of our performance-tuning (caching,...) python packages at this event. thanks - and sorry for beeing late jodok > > http://www.europython.org/ > > Regards, > > Martijn > _______________________________________________ > Zope3-dev mailing list > Zope3-dev at zope.org > Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/jodok% > 40lovelysystems.com > -- "Beautiful is better than ugly." -- The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters Jodok Batlogg, Lovely Systems Schmelzh?tterstra?e 26a, 6850 Dornbirn, Austria phone: +43 5572 908060, fax: +43 5572 908060-77 -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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In-Reply-To: <6C016A5D-B51F-4219-801F-A6F7E525338D@lovelysystems.com> References: <8928d4e90705171215q353e07eco2771d543207b11c0@mail.gmail.com> <6C016A5D-B51F-4219-801F-A6F7E525338D@lovelysystems.com> Message-ID: <200705190141.01689.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Saturday 19 May 2007 00:45, Jodok Batlogg wrote: > On 17.05.2007, at 21:15, Martijn Faassen wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > Tomorrow (friday may 18) is the EuroPython talk submission deadline! > > So if you are thinking about giving a talk at EuroPython, please > > submit it soon! > > bummer :( > i missed the deadline by 38 minutes :( > > any chance to submit lovely systems proposal via mail? I don't want to say anything I'm not "authorised" to say, but I think it quite likely that we'll extend the period for submitting talks, meaning that everyone who tried to submit talks at the last minute but then experienced account difficulties, or anyone who didn't have time during the week to finish off their proposal can still submit a talk. > we'd like to talk about "high performance zope3". > lovely systems is working on "web2.0 portals" that have pretty heavy > load (peak 250 mbit/s, > 1000 concurrent connections). > i'll talk about the general architecture goals when running "big" > portals based on zope3 (nginx reverse proxies, varnish caches, > memcached, ipvs load balancers,...), strategies to monitor and > improve zope3 settings (z3monitor, zservertracelog, cache > tuning,...), do and don'ts > we'll also release some of our performance-tuning (caching,...) > python packages at this event. Well you've got my attention, anyway. ;-) But unless someone in the talks department decides otherwise, the deadline is likely to be pushed back a few days. We'll bring you some news on this topic tomorrow. > thanks - and sorry for beeing late No problem! Paul From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Sat May 19 12:15:51 2007 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 12:15:51 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> Do we think that that are enough? Or should measures be taken? Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 fx 01212-5-13695179 - EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there! From lac at openend.se Sat May 19 14:44:33 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 14:44:33 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions In-Reply-To: Message from "Harald Armin Massa" of "Sat, 19 May 2007 12:15:51 +0200." <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se> In a message of Sat, 19 May 2007 12:15:51 +0200, "Harald Armin Massa" writes: >Do we think that that are enough? > >Or should measures be taken? > >Harald I have 3 that were mailed to me rather than submitted, by people who waited till the very last to submit and then had something not work or otherwise delay them. I think that is a little light. I'm for browsing what we have and then seeing where we have holes, and seeing if we can solicit papers to fill the gaps. What do the rest of you think? Laura From duncan at grisby.org Sat May 19 17:29:52 2007 From: duncan at grisby.org (Duncan Grisby) Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 16:29:52 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission problem In-Reply-To: <200705181624.58065.david@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: On Friday 18 May, David Boddie wrote: > You may have to e-mail the support address at the bottom of the login > page if you haven't received an e-mail message with your details. I emailed the support people, and they sorted me out. For some reason the account didn't activate even though it told me it had. Thanks to everyone to helped. Cheers, Duncan. -- -- Duncan Grisby -- -- duncan at grisby.org -- -- http://www.grisby.org -- From lucio.torre at gmail.com Sat May 19 01:02:23 2007 From: lucio.torre at gmail.com (Lucio Torre) Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 20:02:23 -0300 Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission for EuroPython In-Reply-To: <999187ed0705181545k1e7f2730l28db8a94e0842a45@mail.gmail.com> References: <999187ed0705181509m76b6672fqa98e15d5592126a8@mail.gmail.com> <1918a2ec0705181539v444bbaa3sb0da53fe831dd08b@mail.gmail.com> <999187ed0705181545k1e7f2730l28db8a94e0842a45@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <999187ed0705181602g7f7bde4ejef8b8c31dd177e4@mail.gmail.com> Hi, we have prepared a talk on pygame that we have already given at pycon2007 and we were about to submit it to europython2007. We had a small time zone miscalculation, which led us to being a few minutes late to submit it via the website. (It's still May 18 here in Buenos Aires!). We are attaching the talk anyway, just in case it can be submitted some other way. We have also sent this mail to Laura Creighton, since she was the one that requested talks for europython in the pygame mailing list, but we are sending it to this address for completeness. Sorry for the inconvenience. We have been planing this presentation for some time and didn't want to miss this opportunity. Thank you very much. Regards from Argentina, Lucio Torre and Alejandro Cura. -------- Title ----- "Pyweek: making games in 7 days" Summary ------- The objective of this talk is to encourage people to participate in pyweek. We explain what the contest is, when it takes place, who can and does participate and why everybody should. A quick review of the most unique games is given, plus an account of the fun experience we had developing our entries. We also talk about how python is the perfect match for this kind of tight schedules, and about what the contest brings back into the python community. Description ----------- * 150 new games made with python, in only 2 years * a very busy week, twice a year * our first pyweek: STIM * the challengers * peer review and voting * the winners * lessons learned * the pyweek.draw 64k challenge * pyweek again: making Typus Pocus * strategies * splitting the tasks * iterating over features * the challengers * the winners * wrapping up * original games * tools, libraries: new and improved * more people learning python and how to make games with python * improve coding, teamwork & nunchaku skills * the next one is very soon! About the speakers ------------------ Alejandro J. Cura and Lucio Torre are active members of PyAr, the Python Users Group from Argentina. Both are part of an Argentinian team that has made four games for the PyWeek game competition, the latest two were awarded first and second place. They have recently given a talk called "pyweek: making games in 7 days" during PyCon 2007 in Dallas, USA. alecu, born Alejandro J. Cura has been using python since 1996. Right now he works in a high profile bank in Buenos Aires, where he has achieved sneaking jython past management's java monoculture. Since joining PyAr, alecu has been encouraging people in most of Argentina to make up teams to participate in pyweek. His talk on pygame and pyweek has been presented in "PythonDay C?rdoba" in August 2006 and in "CafeConf Buenos Aires" in November 2006. Lucio Torre is a programmer and entrepreneur who has been using python for a long time. He is one of the first members of PyAr, the Argentinian python users group. He has used python for many types of applications in many industries. He has given many talks in various places, including many local universities, MIT and Harvard Club and technology related conferences. This last years he has been promoting python, giving talks and tutorials in three provinces. Some time ago, he also made a simple port of the CPython interpreter for PalmOS. Grant Request ------------------- For this presentation we are asking for a grant to support our travel and lodging expenses. For the last pycon we've offered ourselves for helping with the setup and giving a tutorial to help pay for the expenses. We also plan for this conference to have an open space showing the games that were made during all of the pyweeks competitions and trying to get more people to participate. Our main goals for this trip are (besides personal enlightenment) fostering communications between the global python communities and the very active python Argentina and promoting pyweek. Working this way we have been very successful in developing the spirit of community among python programmers in all the regions of our country. Last pyweek, participation was up from 30 to 53 finished games. Even 3 teams from Argentina competed. We expect to continue helping this event by promoting the challenge and showing some of the results that came from it. From paul at boddie.org.uk Sat May 19 23:19:54 2007 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 23:19:54 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions In-Reply-To: <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se> References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se> Message-ID: <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Saturday 19 May 2007 14:44, Laura Creighton wrote: > > I have 3 that were mailed to me rather than submitted, by people who > waited till the very last to submit and then had something not work > or otherwise delay them. I think that is a little light. I'm for browsing > what we have and then seeing where we have holes, and seeing if we > can solicit papers to fill the gaps. What do the rest of you think? I suggest we just extend the deadline to next Friday. That way, anyone who wanted to submit something but didn't get round to completing it before the weekend can still do so. Perhaps we'll get some surprises! Paul From lac at openend.se Sun May 20 08:45:25 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 08:45:25 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions In-Reply-To: Message from Paul Boddie of "Sat, 19 May 2007 23:19:54 +0200." <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se> <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <200705200645.l4K6jPMf007462@theraft.openend.se> In a message of Sat, 19 May 2007 23:19:54 +0200, Paul Boddie writes: >On Saturday 19 May 2007 14:44, Laura Creighton wrote: >> >> I have 3 that were mailed to me rather than submitted, by people who >> waited till the very last to submit and then had something not work >> or otherwise delay them. I think that is a little light. I'm for brow >sing >> what we have and then seeing where we have holes, and seeing if we >> can solicit papers to fill the gaps. What do the rest of you think? > >I suggest we just extend the deadline to next Friday. That way, anyone wh >o >wanted to submit something but didn't get round to completing it before t >he >weekend can still do so. Perhaps we'll get some surprises! > >Paul Also fine by me. Laura From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Sun May 20 10:31:31 2007 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 10:31:31 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions In-Reply-To: <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se> <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com> Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within a) europython website b) comp.lang.python Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak up now or be silent forever? :) Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 fx 01212-5-13695179 - EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there! From micahel at gmail.com Sun May 20 10:38:54 2007 From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson) Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 09:38:54 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com> References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se> <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> <7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 20/05/07, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within > > a) europython website > b) comp.lang.python > > Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak > up now or be silent forever? :) An extension until Friday sounds like a very good plan to me, as does spamming this information around. Cheers, mwh (this years somewhat overwhelmed programme chair...) From lac at openend.se Sun May 20 11:11:29 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 11:11:29 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions In-Reply-To: Message from "Michael Hudson" of "Sun, 20 May 2007 09:38:54 BST." References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se> <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> <7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200705200911.l4K9BTDf001323@theraft.openend.se> Harald, can you mail them all about the program extension? Laura -- in the mood for 'lets just do it' In a message of Sun, 20 May 2007 09:38:54 BST, "Michael Hudson" writes: >On 20/05/07, Harald Armin Massa wrote: >> Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within >> >> a) europython website >> b) comp.lang.python >> >> Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak >> up now or be silent forever? :) > >An extension until Friday sounds like a very good plan to me, as does >spamming this information around. > >Cheers, >mwh >(this years somewhat overwhelmed programme chair...) >_______________________________________________ >EuroPython mailing list >EuroPython at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Sun May 20 11:34:46 2007 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 11:34:46 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions In-Reply-To: <200705200911.l4K9BTDf001323@theraft.openend.se> References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se> <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> <7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com> <200705200911.l4K9BTDf001323@theraft.openend.se> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705200234t73186952oa6d5f630e372a495@mail.gmail.com> Laura, I will spam c.l.p. Who will update da website, because I do not have access to it. Harald On 5/20/07, Laura Creighton wrote: > > Harald, can you mail them all about the program extension? > > Laura -- in the mood for 'lets just do it' > > In a message of Sun, 20 May 2007 09:38:54 BST, "Michael Hudson" writes: > >On 20/05/07, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > >> Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within > >> > >> a) europython website > >> b) comp.lang.python > >> > >> Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak > >> up now or be silent forever? :) > > > >An extension until Friday sounds like a very good plan to me, as does > >spamming this information around. > > > >Cheers, > >mwh > >(this years somewhat overwhelmed programme chair...) > >_______________________________________________ > >EuroPython mailing list > >EuroPython at python.org > >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 fx 01212-5-13695179 - EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there! From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Sun May 20 11:38:00 2007 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 11:38:00 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions In-Reply-To: <200705200911.l4K9BTDf001323@theraft.openend.se> References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se> <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> <7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com> <200705200911.l4K9BTDf001323@theraft.openend.se> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705200238v6bf5d427na7b6805df83a29@mail.gmail.com> Bene!! can you PLEASE reopen the talk submission on INDICO, and set a new closing date for 25. Mai 2007 ? Harald On 5/20/07, Laura Creighton wrote: > > Harald, can you mail them all about the program extension? > > Laura -- in the mood for 'lets just do it' > > In a message of Sun, 20 May 2007 09:38:54 BST, "Michael Hudson" writes: > >On 20/05/07, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > >> Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within > >> > >> a) europython website > >> b) comp.lang.python > >> > >> Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak > >> up now or be silent forever? :) > > > >An extension until Friday sounds like a very good plan to me, as does > >spamming this information around. > > > >Cheers, > >mwh > >(this years somewhat overwhelmed programme chair...) > >_______________________________________________ > >EuroPython mailing list > >EuroPython at python.org > >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 fx 01212-5-13695179 - EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there! From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Sun May 20 11:57:32 2007 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 11:57:32 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0705200238v6bf5d427na7b6805df83a29@mail.gmail.com> References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se> <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> <7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com> <200705200911.l4K9BTDf001323@theraft.openend.se> <7be3f35d0705200238v6bf5d427na7b6805df83a29@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <141F548B-BD12-4C49-8BD7-8871E3442F9E@cern.ch> Hi Harald, it seems someone else did it already... Ciao Benedikt On May 20, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > Bene!! > > can you PLEASE reopen the talk submission on INDICO, and set a new > closing date for 25. Mai 2007 ? > > Harald > > On 5/20/07, Laura Creighton wrote: >> >> Harald, can you mail them all about the program extension? >> >> Laura -- in the mood for 'lets just do it' >> >> In a message of Sun, 20 May 2007 09:38:54 BST, "Michael Hudson" >> writes: >> >On 20/05/07, Harald Armin Massa wrote: >> >> Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within >> >> >> >> a) europython website >> >> b) comp.lang.python >> >> >> >> Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please >> speak >> >> up now or be silent forever? :) >> > >> >An extension until Friday sounds like a very good plan to me, as >> does >> >spamming this information around. >> > >> >Cheers, >> >mwh >> >(this years somewhat overwhelmed programme chair...) >> >_______________________________________________ >> >EuroPython mailing list >> >EuroPython at python.org >> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython >> > > > -- > GHUM Harald Massa > persuadere et programmare > Harald Armin Massa > Reinsburgstra?e 202b > 70197 Stuttgart > 0173/9409607 > fx 01212-5-13695179 > - > EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th > July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there! From paul at boddie.org.uk Sun May 20 17:03:31 2007 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 17:03:31 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com> References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> <7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200705201703.31738.paul@boddie.org.uk> On Sunday 20 May 2007 10:31, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within > > a) europython website > b) comp.lang.python > > Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak > up now or be silent forever? :) I've uploaded an announcement and will adjust the calendar and other things to match. We really need to commit to firm dates for the other things, and I'm tempted to suggest... * May 22nd as the registration opening date (only three weeks after we promised, sigh!), with or without the full complement of e-payment modules. * A keynote announcement when the registration opens. * May 31st for the schedule announcement. * June 8th for the end of early registration (at the very least). * The call for sponsors may as well go out now. Let us also not forget the usual IRC meeting tomorrow where we should make absolutely sure that we're ready for registration. Paul From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Sun May 20 18:57:57 2007 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 18:57:57 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] has somebody seen my "talkextended" in c.l.p. ??? Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705200957gbbbf577kbafb45b64524afa0@mail.gmail.com> because I am missing it there:( -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 fx 01212-5-13695179 - EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there! From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Sun May 20 19:57:43 2007 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:57:43 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions In-Reply-To: <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se> <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <20070520175743.GA2736@crater.logilab.fr> On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 11:19:54PM +0200, Paul Boddie wrote: > I suggest we just extend the deadline to next Friday. +1 -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be Sun May 20 21:13:43 2007 From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux) Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 21:13:43 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions In-Reply-To: <20070520175743.GA2736@crater.logilab.fr> References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se> <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> <20070520175743.GA2736@crater.logilab.fr> Message-ID: 2007/5/20, Nicolas Chauvat : > > I suggest we just extend the deadline to next Friday. I share the idea. +1 Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be Utiliser des formats ouverts et des logiciels libres - http://www.passeralinux.org From kitblake at gmail.com Tue May 22 12:14:16 2007 From: kitblake at gmail.com (kit BLAKE) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:14:16 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel registration form In-Reply-To: <20070508113259.GC11850@lucky> References: <20070508113259.GC11850@lucky> Message-ID: <32a4a00c0705220314j42327ed2n3c6a8027c4194265@mail.gmail.com> Hi Aiste / organizers, On the registration form (Excel sheet) for Hotel Lietuva is the following text: "In case of a no-show or cancellation we will charge for the whole period reservation was made for." That makes me nervous. If that's the case we won't reserve until the last minute. That makes me nervous too :-) Also there is: " * Guaranteed reservations can be cancelled without any charge untill the 1st of April 2007." Should that be 1st of June? Thanks, Kit 2007/5/8, Aiste Kesminaite : > Hi, > > If you want to book the conference hotel you need a form that will be > posted on EP website. > > The registration form for the hotel needs to be emailed or faxed to the > hotel (contact info is given on the form). > > Unfortunatelly registering online you won't get the dicount. > Also the hotel asked for a deadline to be set for registration -- 1st of > June. > > Also there are good news about internet connection -- it > can be improved, at the moment they have a 2 mbit connection and I am > waiting for information on how much can this be increased. > > -- > Aiste Kesminaite > Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius > Phone: +370 6563 6462 > Email: aiste at pov.lt > Web: www.pov.lt > > > > > > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > -- > Aiste Kesminaite > Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius > Phone: +370 6563 6462 > Email: aiste at pov.lt > Web: www.pov.lt > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > -- Kit BLAKE ? Infrae ? http://infrae.com/ + 31 10 243 7051 Hoevestraat 10 ? 3033 GC ? Rotterdam + The Netherlands OpenPGP 0xE67AD0F2 ? Contact = http://xri.net/=kitblake From p at penguin-p.de Tue May 22 15:33:26 2007 From: p at penguin-p.de (Peter Kaiser) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:33:26 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Student fees Message-ID: <200705221533.26270.p@penguin-p.de> Hi there, I'm planning to visit EuroPython in Vilnius and wonder which fee I have to pay. At the moment I'm doing my civil service which will be finished when EuroPython starts. So I'm stuck in a kind of gap between school, civil service and university (in octobre). That means I have no documents proving my still running education. Are those guys like me also ment to pay the student fees? Or do I have to pay the full price? Greetings from Germany Peter Kaiser From lac at openend.se Tue May 22 15:43:05 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:43:05 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Student fees In-Reply-To: Message from Peter Kaiser of "Tue, 22 May 2007 15:33:26 +0200." <200705221533.26270.p@penguin-p.de> References: <200705221533.26270.p@penguin-p.de> Message-ID: <200705221343.l4MDh5iW031768@theraft.openend.se> Pay the student rate. You only have to convince the organisers, and I'm already convinced. Laura In a message of Tue, 22 May 2007 15:33:26 +0200, Peter Kaiser writes: >Hi there, >I'm planning to visit EuroPython in Vilnius and wonder which fee I have t >o >pay. At the moment I'm doing my civil service which will be finished when > >EuroPython starts. So I'm stuck in a kind of gap between school, civil >service and university (in octobre). That means I have no documents provi >ng >my still running education. > >Are those guys like me also ment to pay the student fees? Or do I have to > pay >the full price? > >Greetings from Germany >Peter Kaiser >_______________________________________________ >EuroPython mailing list >EuroPython at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From paul at boddie.org.uk Wed May 23 00:41:55 2007 From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 00:41:55 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007: Registration is Open! Message-ID: <200705230041.55533.paul@boddie.org.uk> Registration is now open for EuroPython 2007: the European Python and Zope Conference, taking place this year in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July to Wednesday 11th July. Once again, we thank supporters of EuroPython for their patience, and encourage early registration by offering the usual generous discount on fees for registrations made up until 8th June. Online registration will close on Monday 2nd July. More information on registration can be found here: * http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/how-to-register For more general information on the conference, please visit... * http://www.europython.org/ We look forward to seeing you in Vilnius! From cl2dlope at gmail.com Wed May 23 08:24:24 2007 From: cl2dlope at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 08:24:24 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007: Registration is Open! In-Reply-To: <200705230041.55533.paul@boddie.org.uk> References: <200705230041.55533.paul@boddie.org.uk> Message-ID: <4653DE18.5010303@gmail.com> Paul Boddie said the following on 05/23/2007 12:41 AM: > Registration is now open for EuroPython 2007: the European Python and Zope > Conference, taking place this year in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July > to Wednesday 11th July. and we have had our first two paypal payments already :-) Excellent work everybody! /dario -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. Lyrics applied to programming & application design: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley From chris.arndt at web.de Wed May 23 13:09:56 2007 From: chris.arndt at web.de (Christopher Arndt) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:09:56 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 site missing information about conference venue Message-ID: <46542104.2020504@web.de> Hi EuroPython organizers, when I looked at the EuroPython 2007 site today, I noticed that is very hard to find out where the conference actually takes place. It says Vilnius, Lithuania everywhere, but the actual venue, the Reval Hotel Lietuva, is only mentioned hidden away on the page "EuroPython special accommodation". I'm not even sure that the phrase "which is the conference hotel" means that this is where the talks and session take place!? The venue should to be mentioned clearly on the home page and in the Location section! How do you expect people to book accommodation if they don't even know, where they need to go for the conference? If the venue is not known at this time, this should be stated cleraly as well, so people know what to expect. There is also no information about the conference venue on the EuroPython wiki. Incidentally, the existence of the wiki is only mentioned on the registration page on the main web page. There sould be a link to the wiki in the top menu of the web page. Kind regards, Christopher Arndt -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: chris.arndt.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 396 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20070523/652e2351/attachment.vcf -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm not even sure that the phrase "which is the > conference hotel" means that this is where the talks and session take > place!? Oops. Yes, the Reval Hotel Lietuva is where everything is happening. > There is also no information about the conference venue on the > EuroPython wiki. Incidentally, the existence of the wiki is only > mentioned on the registration page on the main web page. There sould be > a link to the wiki in the top menu of the web page. I'm not sure quite where you mean... this year the wiki has mostly been used by the organisers to coordinate things, it's not really intended for "end users". Cheers, mwh From chris.arndt at web.de Wed May 23 14:37:44 2007 From: chris.arndt at web.de (Christopher Arndt) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 14:37:44 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 site missing information about conference venue In-Reply-To: References: <46542104.2020504@web.de> Message-ID: <46543598.1080205@web.de> Michael Hudson schrieb: >> There is also no information about the conference venue on the >> EuroPython wiki. Incidentally, the existence of the wiki is only >> mentioned on the registration page on the main web page. There sould be >> a link to the wiki in the top menu of the web page. > > I'm not sure quite where you mean... this year the wiki has mostly > been used by the organisers to coordinate things, it's not really > intended for "end users". Let me quote from the registration page: "Once you are registered, you might like to take a look at the EuroPython Wiki, where informal preparations for the conference are being made. Here, you can add details about yourself, ask or answer general questions about the conference, travel, tourism or almost anything related to the event, and add details of your experiences once the conference has begun." So, I think, the wiki might be (or become) useful for all conference attendants, not just the organizers. Chris From regebro at gmail.com Wed May 23 15:23:58 2007 From: regebro at gmail.com (Lennart Regebro) Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:23:58 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 site missing information about conference venue In-Reply-To: <46542104.2020504@web.de> References: <46542104.2020504@web.de> Message-ID: <319e029f0705230623h42c57f7dt1ac2e626abe00105@mail.gmail.com> On 5/23/07, Christopher Arndt wrote: > How do you expect people to book accommodation if they > don't even know, where they need to go for the conference? Well, that's easy, because you click on "Where to stay". That part I found very easy. Otherwise you are of course completely correct. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 From eiwot23 at gmail.com Thu May 24 04:47:11 2007 From: eiwot23 at gmail.com (eiwot23 eiwot23) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:47:11 +0700 Subject: [EuroPython] New Python knowledge blog Message-ID: <2d8f06a0705231947y781f8f55l2a341108e8110efd@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, I have created new blog for Python knowledge at http://pyarticles.blogspot.com .Let's check it out Cheers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We wouldn't like to submit any Paper but would like to Participate in this conference as a listener. So please send us the confirmation and procedure of participation so that we can take part in this Conference on time. Please do the needful and confirm, your early action in this matter would be highly appreciated. With regards, * * *Lord Krishna Research Institute * Plot No. 15, Chowk Suffian Industrial Area (A) Ludhiana-141003, India Tel: +91 161 6524515, 4636124 Fax: +91 161 4626124 * * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20070524/c671fbf2/attachment.htm From aiste at pov.lt Thu May 24 12:25:51 2007 From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:25:51 +0300 Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel registration form In-Reply-To: <32a4a00c0705220314j42327ed2n3c6a8027c4194265@mail.gmail.com> References: <20070508113259.GC11850@lucky> <32a4a00c0705220314j42327ed2n3c6a8027c4194265@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070524102528.GA30408@lucky> Hello Kit, > On the registration form (Excel sheet) for Hotel Lietuva is the following > text: > > "In case of a no-show or cancellation we will charge for the whole > period reservation was made for." > > That makes me nervous. If that's the case we won't reserve until the > last minute. That makes me nervous too :-) I remember talking to the hotel people about this and they specifically mentioned cancelling on the day or not notifiying at all about not arriving. I will find out the exact cancellation policy. (it should be the same as their general policy that is on their website i think) > Also there is: > " * Guaranteed reservations can be cancelled without any charge untill > the 1st of April 2007." > > Should that be 1st of June? Possibly even later than this. -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt From lac at openend.se Thu May 24 16:00:09 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:00:09 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Fwd: Participation in the EuroPython 2007 In-Reply-To: Message from "Rajinder Singh" of "Thu, 24 May 2007 15:17:40 +0530." <3aa326190705240247n1e81ad53m6d80eace32e21c69@mail.gmail.com> References: <3aa326190705230049i4fffa152i9ecc7bb7e50c3dd2@mail.gmail.com> <3aa326190705240247n1e81ad53m6d80eace32e21c69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200705241400.l4OE09gj014666@theraft.openend.se> This message is to confirm that Europython conference is being held July 9-11 in Vilnius, Lithuania. To register for the conference please go to http://www.europython.org/ and click on REGISTRATION (in the top left corner) and then click on How to Register. Since you are not giving a talk, are not a student, but it is before June 8: you need to pay the 'Early Others' rate, of 100 Euros. Payment details on the page. Looking forward to meeting you at Europython, Laura Creighton for all the conference organisers. 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> >------=_Part_139125_5839841.1180000060571-- > >--===============1960100205== >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >Content-Disposition: inline > >_______________________________________________ >EuroPython mailing list >EuroPython at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > >--===============1960100205==-- From lac at openend.se Thu May 24 22:29:35 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 22:29:35 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Joachim Schmidt .. anybody know his new email address? Message-ID: <200705242029.l4OKTZWR021351@theraft.openend.se> or have his phone number? Laura From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Fri May 25 19:12:17 2007 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:12:17 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] sorting talk proposals in indico Message-ID: <20070525171217.GF18178@crater.logilab.fr> Hello, Since today is the deadline, I suppose it is the right time to start sorting out the talk proposals. I found my login/passwd used last year with the indico.cern.ch app, but I have trouble finding out where I am supposed to get the list of proposals to comment. Any hint ? http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=13919 does not seem to have that kind of link. -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From micahel at gmail.com Fri May 25 19:40:45 2007 From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:40:45 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] sorting talk proposals in indico In-Reply-To: <20070525171217.GF18178@crater.logilab.fr> References: <20070525171217.GF18178@crater.logilab.fr> Message-ID: On 25/05/07, Nicolas Chauvat wrote: > Hello, > > Since today is the deadline, I suppose it is the right time to start > sorting out the talk proposals. I found my login/passwd used last year > with the indico.cern.ch app, but I have trouble finding out where I am > supposed to get the list of proposals to comment. Any hint ? > > http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=13919 does not seem > to have that kind of link. I've added you as a manager, so you should be able to find such a page now. Cheers, mwh From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr Fri May 25 22:20:14 2007 From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 22:20:14 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] not that many talk proposals Message-ID: <20070525202014.GI18178@crater.logilab.fr> Hi, I am concerned that we do not have many talk proposals thus far. Would someone remember how many we had to chose from last year ? I would say around 150, am I right ? -- Nicolas Chauvat logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Fri May 25 22:28:18 2007 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 22:28:18 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] not that many talk proposals In-Reply-To: <20070525202014.GI18178@crater.logilab.fr> References: <20070525202014.GI18178@crater.logilab.fr> Message-ID: Hi Nicolas, last year we had 112 submissions. And almost all were accepted. For this year we have only 62 so far... Cheers Benedikt On May 25, 2007, at 10:20 PM, Nicolas Chauvat wrote: > Hi, > > I am concerned that we do not have many talk proposals thus far. Would > someone remember how many we had to chose from last year ? I would say > around 150, am I right ? > > -- > Nicolas Chauvat > > logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de > connaissances > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From bea at changemaker.nu Mon May 28 10:25:06 2007 From: bea at changemaker.nu (=?windows-1252?Q?Beatrice_D=FCring?=) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 10:25:06 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] More talks/Agile activities? Message-ID: <465A91E2.8000508@changemaker.nu> Hi there Even though I have not been able to participate in the last couple of EP meetings I have been chasing around the Agile community for people to invite (as keynotes and/or other speakers). Many people are busy though because the two main Agile conferences are also in June/July. I have though been able to get Arlo Belshee interested in visiting us, he is very active and renowned "hands-on" Agile person as well as being a Python (py.test ;-) user ;-) We met last year and started talking about what the two communities could learn from each other (Python OSS/Agile).....He is now interested in joining us in Vilnius and is offering the following ideas: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I'm certainly interested. How much agile experience do the Europython attendees have? I'd be happy to talk about Promiscuous Pairing, although I gave a talk on that topic two years ago at Agile 2005. It's also an intermediate-level topic. So the talk would be less interesting to those who may have seen it before, or for those who are not yet ready for it. That said, It's a great topic, and I'd be happy to talk on it. I'd be happy to do a "what we should steal from each other" between Python / OSS and Agile / Commercial dev. I am not the world's foremost expert in this field, but I've got some insights that I'd love to share. Also, over the next few days, I'll reflect on my recent experience and give you a list of other talk titles that you may find interesting. I'll get you that list by Tuesday morning. I'm happy to give any number of talks - if I'm not talking in a room, I'll be talking with people in the halls or doing Open Space, Code Dojo, and Lightning Talks. I had considered a running couple of activities for Agile 2007, but didn?t have the time last winter to put them together. Would there be interest at Europython for "Exercises in Agile"? I'll put together a list while I'm thinking on talk ideas. If you're interested, I'll send them along on Tuesday. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So question is - are we interested? Not as a keynote but offering agile hands-on talks and activities to the conference ? I would like to have his trip and accommodation reimbursed for his participation if so - is this possible? And regarding Nicolas question about amount of talks - are there other cross-community people we could invite and have them talk/open space activities as well? Other language communities and core people of interest to Python users? And maybe this is a more hands-on value than just having keynotes (although they attract people).... Cheers Bea From thomas at fluendo.com Mon May 28 18:23:51 2007 From: thomas at fluendo.com (Thomas Vander Stichele) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:23:51 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 Message-ID: <1180369431.19850.24.camel@level.fluendo.lan> Hi, I have tried a few times over the last week to submit my proposal after noticing the deadline was extended. I'm not sure if it's due to registering late on the CERN site (which is more confusing than I expected), but I was unable to log in and submit a talk over the past few days. And today it seems the submission through the website is now closed. If it's already too late, and the rules are strict on this, then too bad. But I would still like to try and submit my talk as I feel it would fit well in the conference. I'm attaching the abstract to this mail. I think it could fit in the "Web related technologies" or "Business and Applications" track, though bear in mind the talk is fairly developer-centered and the abstract would need adapting to reflect this. Hoping for a positive answer, Thomas From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com Mon May 28 20:47:27 2007 From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 20:47:27 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 In-Reply-To: <1180369431.19850.24.camel@level.fluendo.lan> References: <1180369431.19850.24.camel@level.fluendo.lan> Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705281147y4dcd8b4ev2e41c61acdc73155@mail.gmail.com> Thomas, there is no abstract attached to your email. I guess the Mailinglist-Software strips it. Please send your abstract again just copied into an email, so we can help you. Best wishes, Harald On 5/28/07, Thomas Vander Stichele wrote: > > Hi, > > I have tried a few times over the last week to submit my proposal after > noticing the deadline was extended. I'm not sure if it's due to > registering late on the CERN site (which is more confusing than I > expected), but I was unable to log in and submit a talk over the past > few days. And today it seems the submission through the website is now > closed. > > If it's already too late, and the rules are strict on this, then too > bad. But I would still like to try and submit my talk as I feel it > would fit well in the conference. > > I'm attaching the abstract to this mail. > > I think it could fit in the "Web related technologies" or "Business and > Applications" track, though bear in mind the talk is fairly > developer-centered and the abstract would need adapting to reflect this. > > Hoping for a positive answer, > > Thomas > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > > -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Reinsburgstra?e 202b 70197 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 fx 01212-5-13695179 - EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20070528/d69955b4/attachment.html From micahel at gmail.com Mon May 28 20:59:09 2007 From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:59:09 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0705281147y4dcd8b4ev2e41c61acdc73155@mail.gmail.com> References: <1180369431.19850.24.camel@level.fluendo.lan> <7be3f35d0705281147y4dcd8b4ev2e41c61acdc73155@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 28/05/07, Harald Armin Massa wrote: > Thomas, > > there is no abstract attached to your email. > > I guess the Mailinglist-Software strips it. Please send your abstract again > just copied into an email, so we can help you. I talked to him on IRC, it's all sorted now and the talk is in the system. Cheers, mwh From lac at openend.se Mon May 28 21:57:12 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 21:57:12 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 In-Reply-To: Message from Thomas Vander Stichele of "Mon, 28 May 2007 18:23:51 +0200." <1180369431.19850.24.camel@level.fluendo.lan> References: <1180369431.19850.24.camel@level.fluendo.lan> Message-ID: <200705281957.l4SJvCWo025057@theraft.openend.se> I didn't find any attatchment. Try mailing it to program at europython.org Laura In a message of Mon, 28 May 2007 18:23:51 +0200, Thomas Vander Stichele writes: >Hi, > >I have tried a few times over the last week to submit my proposal after >noticing the deadline was extended. I'm not sure if it's due to >registering late on the CERN site (which is more confusing than I >expected), but I was unable to log in and submit a talk over the past >few days. And today it seems the submission through the website is now >closed. > >If it's already too late, and the rules are strict on this, then too >bad. But I would still like to try and submit my talk as I feel it >would fit well in the conference. > >I'm attaching the abstract to this mail. > >I think it could fit in the "Web related technologies" or "Business and >Applications" track, though bear in mind the talk is fairly >developer-centered and the abstract would need adapting to reflect this. > >Hoping for a positive answer, > >Thomas >_______________________________________________ >EuroPython mailing list >EuroPython at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From chefer at tuks.co.za Tue May 29 08:34:55 2007 From: chefer at tuks.co.za (Charles Hefer) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 08:34:55 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Letter of invitation to attend europython 2007 Message-ID: <492024630705282334l383c0f85p13b089d9cffaef26@mail.gmail.com> Hi The visa requirements for Lithuania for South African citizens requires a letter of invitation to attend the conference. Can you please supply me with such a letter for the following two registrants: Registrant id: 38 Family name: Hefer First name: Charles and Registrant id: 40 Family name: De Beer First name: Tjaart Thank you very much! regards -- Charles Hefer Bioinformatics and Computational Biology Unit Room 3-3 FABI Square/Bioinformatics building University of Pretoria Lynwood Rd Pretoria South Africa 0001 Tel : +27 12 420 5802 Fax : +27 12 420 5800 From lac at openend.se Tue May 29 09:46:38 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 09:46:38 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Letter of invitation to attend europython 2007 In-Reply-To: Message from "Charles Hefer" of "Tue, 29 May 2007 08:34:55 +0200." <492024630705282334l383c0f85p13b089d9cffaef26@mail.gmail.com> References: <492024630705282334l383c0f85p13b089d9cffaef26@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <200705290746.l4T7kcVY024099@theraft.openend.se> (These are Andrew Dalke's students in South Africa.) I will send you a letter of invitation asap. You may have more experience receiving letters of invitation than I have in writing them. I assume they need my signature, but do I need to get them notarised or otherwise do anything special with them? Have you submitted a talk? Laura Creighton In a message of Tue, 29 May 2007 08:34:55 +0200, "Charles Hefer" writes: >Hi >The visa requirements for Lithuania for South African citizens >requires a letter of invitation to attend the conference. Can you >please supply me with such a letter for the following two registrants: > >Registrant id: 38 >Family name: Hefer >First name: Charles > >and > >Registrant id: 40 >Family name: De Beer >First name: Tjaart > >Thank you very much! > >regards > >-- > >Charles Hefer > >Bioinformatics and Computational Biology Unit >Room 3-3 >FABI Square/Bioinformatics building >University of Pretoria >Lynwood Rd >Pretoria >South Africa >0001 > >Tel : +27 12 420 5802 >Fax : +27 12 420 5800 >_______________________________________________ >EuroPython mailing list >EuroPython at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From jakacki at exoweb.net Tue May 29 10:16:07 2007 From: jakacki at exoweb.net (Grzegorz Jakacki) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:16:07 +0800 Subject: [EuroPython] New registrant in 'EuroPython 2007': JAKACKI, Grzegorz In-Reply-To: <20070529055644.B86FE329BB@sunuds95.cern.ch> References: <20070529055644.B86FE329BB@sunuds95.cern.ch> Message-ID: <465BE147.4030102@exoweb.net> Hello, I mistakenly registered an extra guest for conference dinner; could you please cancel the conference dinner guest reservation (keeping just the reservation for me)? Thanks GJ europython at python.org wrote: > Congratulations, your registration was successful. See your information below: > > > Registrant Id: 39 > Title: > Family Name: Jakacki > First Name: Grzegorz > Position: > Institution: Exoweb > Address: > City: Beijing > Country: CN > Phone: 008613911925514 > Fax: > Email: jakacki at exoweb.net > Personal Homepage: www.dziupla.net/gj/cv > Reason for participation: I use Python at work. > > > Accommodation: > - Arrival date: 08 July 2007 > - Departure date: 12 July 2007 > - Accommodation type: I will arrange my own accommodation > > > Special requirements: > - Other special requirements: > > Registrant information: > - Rate: Early > > Social events: > - Conference dinner (registrant): yes > - Conference dinner (number of guests) - price per person: 1 > - Dietary requirements: No special requirements > - Dietary requirements - additional information: > > > > > -- Grzegorz Jakacki, Senior Software Eng. greg(at)exoweb.net, +86-139-11925514 From steve at canonical.com Tue May 29 11:12:04 2007 From: steve at canonical.com (Steve Alexander) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:12:04 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Interested in giving a keynote at Europython 2007 in Vilnius? In-Reply-To: <1180395041.2128.98.camel@breeze2.lan> References: <45EF02A0.2050109@canonical.com> <1173831624.5161.77.camel@breeze2> <461F8E70.9050705@canonical.com> <1177938830.6429.221.camel@breeze2> <4637560B.2040803@canonical.com> <1180395041.2128.98.camel@breeze2.lan> Message-ID: <465BEE64.1030405@canonical.com> Hi David, > Yes, I can still do it but only on the first day or possibly on the > morning of the second (11th). You mean the 10th here, right? > I would fly in on the 8th and out on the > 10th (to Paris). > > If you can still do it please be faster than me since I need to book the > flights/trains (for paris home) ASAP. I just checked with the other organisers, and this is all fine. We can arrange something that works with the dates and times. We have two keynote speakers arranged already. One of them is Guido van Rossum, and while his speech is important, it always has the same content and perspective on the recent past and future of Python development. So this year, we'd like to have two other perspectives as keynotes at the conference. Welcome to EuroPython as a keynote speaker! -- Steve Alexander From david at mysql.com Tue May 29 11:26:34 2007 From: david at mysql.com (David Axmark) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:26:34 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Interested in giving a keynote at Europython 2007 in Vilnius? In-Reply-To: <465BEE64.1030405@canonical.com> References: <45EF02A0.2050109@canonical.com> <1173831624.5161.77.camel@breeze2> <461F8E70.9050705@canonical.com> <1177938830.6429.221.camel@breeze2> <4637560B.2040803@canonical.com> <1180395041.2128.98.camel@breeze2.lan> <465BEE64.1030405@canonical.com> Message-ID: <1180430794.2128.139.camel@breeze2.lan> On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 11:12 +0200, Steve Alexander wrote: > Hi David, > > > Yes, I can still do it but only on the first day or possibly on the > > morning of the second (11th). > > You mean the 10th here, right? Yes :-) > > I would fly in on the 8th and out on the > > 10th (to Paris). > > > > If you can still do it please be faster than me since I need to book the > > flights/trains (for paris home) ASAP. > > I just checked with the other organisers, and this is all fine. We can > arrange something that works with the dates and times. Ok, I will book flights ASAP when. > We have two keynote speakers arranged already. One of them is Guido van > Rossum, and while his speech is important, it always has the same > content and perspective on the recent past and future of Python > development. So this year, we'd like to have two other perspectives as > keynotes at the conference. > > Welcome to EuroPython as a keynote speaker! Thanks! /David PS: As you can see I can answer email fast sometimes... From lac at openend.se Tue May 29 15:44:20 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:44:20 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] problem using Indico Message-ID: <200705291344.l4TDiKdb025784@theraft.openend.se> When I log in, I get this screen: The modification of this event has been restricted by its owner and you are not authorised to use it. * You can go back to the precedent page by using the "Back" button of your browser. * You can try to log in with another user (use the "logout" button above) CERN | Powered by CERN Indico 0.94.0.20070523 | indico-support at cern.ch | HELP ----------- can somebody who understands what I am not authorised to do please fix me? Or alternatively, if I am being created in the wrong place, fix me so that I show up in the correct area? Or need I talk to Indico? Laura From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch Tue May 29 15:49:46 2007 From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:49:46 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] problem using Indico In-Reply-To: <200705291344.l4TDiKdb025784@theraft.openend.se> References: <200705291344.l4TDiKdb025784@theraft.openend.se> Message-ID: Hi Laura, try again. I think you had the wrong permissions. Cheers, Benedikt On May 29, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > When I log in, I get this screen: > The modification of this event has been restricted by its owner and > you are not authorised to use it. > > * You can go back to the precedent page by using the "Back" > button of your browser. > * You can try to log in with another user (use the "logout" > button above) > > > > > > CERN | Powered by CERN Indico 0.94.0.20070523 | indico- > support at cern.ch | HELP > > ----------- > > can somebody who understands what I am not authorised to do please > fix me? > Or alternatively, if I am being created in the wrong place, fix me so > that I show up in the correct area? Or need I talk to Indico? > > Laura > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From lac at openend.se Tue May 29 15:51:38 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:51:38 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] problem using Indico In-Reply-To: Message from Benedikt Hegner of "Tue, 29 May 2007 15:49:46 +0200." References: <200705291344.l4TDiKdb025784@theraft.openend.se> Message-ID: <200705291351.l4TDpcXS027452@theraft.openend.se> Works great now. Thanks for the speedy fix, Benedikt! Laura In a message of Tue, 29 May 2007 15:49:46 +0200, Benedikt Hegner writes: >Hi Laura, > >try again. I think you had the wrong permissions. > >Cheers, > Benedikt > >On May 29, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Laura Creighton wrote: > >> When I log in, I get this screen: >> The modification of this event has been restricted by its owner and >> you are not authorised to use it. >> >> * You can go back to the precedent page by using the "Back" >> button of your browser. >> * You can try to log in with another user (use the "logout" >> button above) >> >> >> >> >> >> CERN | Powered by CERN Indico 0.94.0.20070523 | indico- >> support at cern.ch | HELP >> >> ----------- >> >> can somebody who understands what I am not authorised to do please >> fix me? >> Or alternatively, if I am being created in the wrong place, fix me so >> that I show up in the correct area? Or need I talk to Indico? >> >> Laura >> _______________________________________________ >> EuroPython mailing list >> EuroPython at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > >_______________________________________________ >EuroPython mailing list >EuroPython at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From hawkerm at mikeware.com Wed May 30 01:33:55 2007 From: hawkerm at mikeware.com (Michael A. Hawker) Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 19:33:55 -0400 Subject: [EuroPython] Paper Submission Error Message-ID: <465CB863.4060004@mikeware.com> To whomever it may concern, My name is Michael Hawker. I'm a student at McGill University. The other week I submitted a paper abstract entitled "Pythonic Interfaces" (abstract id #44). As I was wondering about the status of my paper proposal, I noticed the deadline had been extended. I also found the section outside of proposals on referred papers, and upon closer inspection noticed the clause on having to submit them specifically as "referred papers." As my paper is on a technically innovative concept, this is where my abstract should belong as it is not just a leisurely discussion. I hope it is not too late to rectify my error, and I hope that at this busy time of year you can forgive such a simple mistake. Thank you for your time. I look forward to hearing from you. Sincerely, Michael A. Hawker From lac at openend.se Wed May 30 10:01:37 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:01:37 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Paper Submission Error In-Reply-To: Message from "Michael A. Hawker" of "Tue, 29 May 2007 19:33:55 EDT." <465CB863.4060004@mikeware.com> References: <465CB863.4060004@mikeware.com> Message-ID: <200705300801.l4U81b3k031150@theraft.openend.se> It took me one click to change your paper's classification. All fixed, all forgiven. Laura Creighton In a message of Tue, 29 May 2007 19:33:55 EDT, "Michael A. Hawker" writes: >To whomever it may concern, > >My name is Michael Hawker. I'm a student at McGill University. The >other week I submitted a paper abstract entitled "Pythonic Interfaces" >(abstract id #44). > >As I was wondering about the status of my paper proposal, I noticed the >deadline had been extended. I also found the section outside of >proposals on referred papers, and upon closer inspection noticed the >clause on having to submit them specifically as "referred papers." As >my paper is on a technically innovative concept, this is where my >abstract should belong as it is not just a leisurely discussion. I hope >it is not too late to rectify my error, and I hope that at this busy >time of year you can forgive such a simple mistake. > >Thank you for your time. I look forward to hearing from you. > >Sincerely, >Michael A. Hawker >_______________________________________________ >EuroPython mailing list >EuroPython at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython From je at revelation-soft.de Wed May 30 18:00:41 2007 From: je at revelation-soft.de (Johannes Ernesti) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:00:41 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007, Payment for two Participants via PayPal Message-ID: <200705301800.41144.je@revelation-soft.de> Hello, my name is Johannes Ernesti and I'm planning to visit EuroPython this year together with a friend. We have completed the registration-process and now want to pay via PayPal, but he does not have PayPal-account. Is it possible to pay for both from the same account by specifying the two registration-ids? Thank you for your answer. Regards Johannes Ernesti PS: His name is Peter Kaiser. His RID is 51 and mine is 52. From lac at openend.se Wed May 30 18:59:25 2007 From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:59:25 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] can somebody change http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues Message-ID: <200705301659.l4UGxPYq032375@theraft.openend.se> to say that registration is open, instead of 'will open soon'. A direct link to 'register me now' would be helpful for that page as well, for people who want to skip the information about rates and the like and just do it. Laura From cl2dlope at gmail.com Wed May 30 22:01:51 2007 From: cl2dlope at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 22:01:51 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007, Payment for two Participants via PayPal In-Reply-To: <200705301800.41144.je@revelation-soft.de> References: <200705301800.41144.je@revelation-soft.de> Message-ID: <465DD82F.4050402@gmail.com> Johannes Ernesti said the following on 05/30/2007 06:00 PM: > Hello, > > my name is Johannes Ernesti and I'm planning to visit EuroPython this year > together with a friend. We have completed the registration-process and now > want to pay via PayPal, but he does not have PayPal-account. Is it possible > to pay for both from the same account by specifying the two registration-ids? > Hello, yes it is perfectly possible specifying the registratiosn id's in question. Sincerely, /dario -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. Lyrics applied to programming & application design: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley From david at mysql.com Wed May 30 23:42:27 2007 From: david at mysql.com (David Axmark) Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 22:42:27 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Interested in giving a keynote at Europython 2007 in Vilnius? In-Reply-To: <465BEE64.1030405@canonical.com> References: <45EF02A0.2050109@canonical.com> <1173831624.5161.77.camel@breeze2> <461F8E70.9050705@canonical.com> <1177938830.6429.221.camel@breeze2> <4637560B.2040803@canonical.com> <1180395041.2128.98.camel@breeze2.lan> <465BEE64.1030405@canonical.com> Message-ID: <1180561347.23682.27.camel@breeze2> On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 11:12 +0200, Steve Alexander wrote: > Hi David, > > > Yes, I can still do it but only on the first day or possibly on the > > morning of the second (11th). > > You mean the 10th here, right? Yes, I did mean that when I wrote it. But now I actually manged to move my other talk so I can talk during the 11th to if needed. I will now fly in on the 8th or 9th depending on where you schedule my talk(s). And fly out on the morning of the 12th. If you want I could do a normal session talk on optimizing MySQL also. Mostly about how to get your indexes fast but a bit of other stuff to. If you can fit that I will use some MySQL internal Python resources to tune the talk for a Python audience. ... > I just checked with the other organisers, and this is all fine. We can > arrange something that works with the dates and times. > > We have two keynote speakers arranged already. One of them is Guido van > Rossum, and while his speech is important, it always has the same > content and perspective on the recent past and future of Python > development. Sounds just like my State of MySQL talks I have done many times. Very interesting if you hear it for the first time and is a heavy user. But a bit boring the 10th time :-) > So this year, we'd like to have two other perspectives as > keynotes at the conference. Sounds good. > Welcome to EuroPython as a keynote speaker! Thanks! I hope to be able to learn a bit more about Python. Both Python and Ruby and been on my to learn list for years. Usually the language itself is easy to learn (when you know a couple already) but the libraries and runtime tends to take quite a while to learn. /David From fabio.pliger at siavr.it Thu May 31 00:26:51 2007 From: fabio.pliger at siavr.it (fabio.pliger) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 00:26:51 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation Message-ID: Hi, i was looking for the EP hote reservation and noticed that there's no difference between booking from the hotel site or EP site. The rate from the hotel site is 79 euros (for early bookers rate) and from the europython.org is 80?. It also seems that the early rate from hotel site includes the usage of the fitness center and the sauna, wich is said to be complementary... I've got it right or am i wrong? Also, in the registration form at the EP site it's written that registration form is to "EURO-PYTHON" july 9-13 2007. Is it a fixed period or can it, chaged?( for instance from 9 to 12..) Anyway, is there any real difference from booking from EP site or from the hotel site? (sorry to bother with all those questions.. :) ) thanks.. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20070531/77a481c5/attachment.html From regebro at gmail.com Thu May 31 08:08:13 2007 From: regebro at gmail.com (Lennart Regebro) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 08:08:13 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com> On 5/31/07, fabio.pliger wrote: > Hi, i was looking for the EP hote reservation and noticed that there's no > difference between booking from the hotel site or EP site. The rate from the > hotel site is 79 euros (for early bookers rate) and from the europython.org > is 80?. In fact. the early bookers rate for a double room today is 79 euros, while the europython special offer (ending tomorrow) it 93 euros for a double room. So special offer is the correct word. It is in fact more expensive. The standard price is evidently 100 euros per night for this period. I think we have been by the hotel. From aiste at pov.lt Thu May 31 13:08:45 2007 From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:08:45 +0300 Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation In-Reply-To: <319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com> References: <319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070531110845.GB3265@lucky> > > Hi, i was looking for the EP hote reservation and noticed that there's no > > difference between booking from the hotel site or EP site. The rate from the > > hotel site is 79 euros (for early bookers rate) and from the europython.org > > is 80?. This is true, I just spoke to the hotel people. So if this 1 Euro makes a big difference -- you can reserve the room in the normal way. > In fact. the early bookers rate for a double room today is 79 euros, > while the europython special offer (ending tomorrow) it 93 euros for a > double room. So special offer is the correct word. It is in fact more > expensive. This is incorrect. The 79 euros price per double is only valid on weekends, that is Fri-Sun and thus does not really work if you want to attend the conference. Also, the conference special offer does not imply that they have to provide the absolute cheapest prices, they do make things more convenient for the conference though. Other clarification -- there is a mistake in the registration form. Kit already asked about this. I just doublechecked with the hotel and yes the no charge cancellation works up the the day before the room is booked. If you notify the hotel a day before you are due to arrive and make sure it is before 16:00 local time -- you are fine, the cancellation does not cost you anything. -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt From regebro at gmail.com Thu May 31 13:14:59 2007 From: regebro at gmail.com (Lennart Regebro) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 13:14:59 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation In-Reply-To: <20070531110845.GB3265@lucky> References: <319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com> <20070531110845.GB3265@lucky> Message-ID: <319e029f0705310414g4d915fa0tb1148286bf03e2e5@mail.gmail.com> On 5/31/07, Aiste Kesminaite wrote: > This is incorrect. The 79 euros price per double is only valid on > weekends, that is Fri-Sun and thus does not really work if you want to > attend the conference. Not according to the website booking. It completely possible to book the conference for this price, and it doesn't mention anything about being only weekends. Doens't matter fpr me, I've already decided on a cheaper hotel close to the conference center, and this kind of business practice from the conference hotel doesn't exactly make me change my mind on that issue. -- Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting. http://www.colliberty.com/ +33 661 58 14 64 From aiste at pov.lt Thu May 31 13:19:50 2007 From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:19:50 +0300 Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation In-Reply-To: <319e029f0705310414g4d915fa0tb1148286bf03e2e5@mail.gmail.com> References: <319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com> <20070531110845.GB3265@lucky> <319e029f0705310414g4d915fa0tb1148286bf03e2e5@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20070531111950.GC3265@lucky> > Not according to the website booking. It completely possible to book > the conference for this price, and it doesn't mention anything about > being only weekends. > > Doens't matter fpr me, I've already decided on a cheaper hotel close > to the conference center, and this kind of business practice from the > conference hotel doesn't exactly make me change my mind on that issue. I cannot verify that myself as their webbooking form for some reason does not want to work for me, but I just called the hotel and what I wrote in my previous email was the answer that I received. You are free to book rooms in any hotel you want as we do not have obligations as such to fill the conference hotel. Also talking about cheaper -- the conference hotel is on of teh more expensive hotels in town, thus the price. You get what you pay for. -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt From fabio.pliger at siavr.it Thu May 31 14:39:06 2007 From: fabio.pliger at siavr.it (fabio.pliger) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:39:06 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation In-Reply-To: <20070531110845.GB3265@lucky> References: <319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com> <20070531110845.GB3265@lucky> Message-ID: > >This is true, I just spoke to the hotel people. So if this 1 Euro makes > > a big difference -- you can reserve the room in the normal way. Oh.. of course 1 euro does not make the difference. I hope my post was not interpretated as a critic because it's not. My post was only to clearify things as i'm about to book the hotel and was hoping to book it in the "best way". Also because i didn't undertand the difference between the "wellness" services from the 2 offers and was not able to find many other hotels near the conference center. > > This is incorrect. The 79 euros price per double is only valid on > > weekends, that is Fri-Sun and thus does not really work if you want to > > attend the conference. > > Also, the conference special offer does not imply that they have to > > provide the absolute cheapest prices, they do make things more > > convenient for the conference though. >From the hotel website it's not specified ( or at least i wasn't able to find it! ) that the offer only for weekends. It's only specified that is for booking 30 days earlier.. Anyway, i was only searching for info... thanks LENNART: Is it a problem for you to pass me the name of the hotel ( directly to my email.. ) you booked so i can look ther too? thanks a lot... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Further questions about these matters may be posted on the list or addressed directly to finance at europython.org. /dario for the EuroPython Society -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. Lyrics applied to programming & application design: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley From cl2dlope at gmail.com Thu May 31 15:30:35 2007 From: cl2dlope at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 15:30:35 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] test - please ignore. Message-ID: <465ECDFB.1050306@gmail.com> /dario -- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech. Lyrics applied to programming & application design: "emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley From maria-anna.lang at lovelysystems.com Thu May 31 16:05:26 2007 From: maria-anna.lang at lovelysystems.com (Maria-Anna Lang) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 16:05:26 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] registration vilnius Message-ID: hi! I'd like to register 4 people for the europython conference in vilnius. Since yesterday I'm trying to register with the indico- system but it doesn't work!!! The attendees names are: - Jodok Batlogg - J?rgen Kartnaller - Bernd Dorn - Bernd Roessl could you please send me a confirmation? thanks maria-anna -- Lovely Systems, Assistant phone: +43 5572 908060, fax: +43 5572 908060-77 Schmelzh?tterstra?e 26a, 6850 Dornbirn, Austria -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/attachments/20070531/2557d279/attachment.html From aiste at pov.lt Thu May 31 17:28:04 2007 From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 18:28:04 +0300 Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation In-Reply-To: References: <319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com> <20070531110845.GB3265@lucky> Message-ID: <20070531152803.GF3265@lucky> > From the hotel website it's not specified ( or at least i wasn't able to > find it! ) that the offer only for weekends. It's only specified that is for > booking 30 days earlier.. If you would look at the website now you will see it corrected -- it is a weekend only offer. -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt From marco.mariani at prometeia.it Thu May 31 19:02:19 2007 From: marco.mariani at prometeia.it (Marco Mariani) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:02:19 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] reval hotel booking Message-ID: <465EFF9B.2010602@prometeia.it> From the Reval booking form I downloaded from the EuroPython site: - Guaranteed reservations can be cancelled without any charge untill the 1st of April 2007. Now, I don't think this form was even available before that date. I have sent a fax asking for a registration from 6/7 to 15/7, because I'd like to have both weekends in Vilnius, but I could find better prices nearby and could change my mind. Is that date right? Thanks From aiste at pov.lt Thu May 31 20:52:19 2007 From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite) Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:52:19 +0300 Subject: [EuroPython] reval hotel booking In-Reply-To: <465EFF9B.2010602@prometeia.it> References: <465EFF9B.2010602@prometeia.it> Message-ID: <20070531185218.GA13622@lucky> Hello Marko, > - Guaranteed reservations can be cancelled without any charge untill the > 1st of April 2007. > > Now, I don't think this form was even available before that date. > I have sent a fax asking for a registration from 6/7 to 15/7, because > I'd like to have both weekends in Vilnius, but I could find better > prices nearby and could change my mind. > > Is that date right? As I explained in my previous email this date is a mistake and you can cancel your reservation without any penalty up to one day before you are due to arrive. -- Aiste Kesminaite Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius Phone: +370 6563 6462 Email: aiste at pov.lt Web: www.pov.lt