From paul at boddie.org.uk  Tue May  1 14:34:49 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Tue, 01 May 2007 14:34:49 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Calendar Updates
Message-ID: <200705011434.50174.paul@boddie.org.uk>

Hello,

After yesterday's IRC meeting, it was more or less decided that registration 
will need to be put back by about a week. I have updated the calendar to 
indicate this change of plan and also indicate that (some of) the keynote 
speakers will be announced at the same time.

See here for the minutes of the meeting:

http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/IrcMeetings/IrcMeeting8

The Web site is, of course, here:

http://www.europython.org/

Let's attempt to meet on IRC next Monday in order to get things back on 
schedule.

Paul

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Tue May  1 19:03:50 2007
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Tue, 1 May 2007 19:03:50 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsors: Who has contact to Microsoft
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705011003q3018e323ib0b5d207fb1ee551@mail.gmail.com>

Hello EuroPythonistas,

we already have 2 very interesting talk proposals from people with @
microsoft.com mailadresses.

Who has contacts to offer Microsoft the option to be a sponsor?

Harald


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From paul at boddie.org.uk  Mon May  7 00:08:16 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 00:08:16 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] IRC Meeting on Monday 7th May
Message-ID: <200705070008.16694.paul@boddie.org.uk>

Reminding everyone that an IRC meeting was suggested for today, Monday 7th May 
(2007-05-07):

Time: 18:00 CEST (17:00 BST, 16:00 UTC/GMT)
      (5pm UK time, 6pm in most of Western Europe)

Location: the #europython IRC channel on freenode.net

Agenda: see the following page...
        http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/IrcMeetings/IrcMeeting9

From cs at comlounge.net  Mon May  7 13:01:10 2007
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2007 13:01:10 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Videostreamin' ?
Message-ID: <463F06F6.9070303@comlounge.net>

Hi there!

I wanted to propose to stream parts of the conference live via internet 
and eventually Second Life. I'd bring the camera anyway and streaming 
can be done either via http://ustream.tv (very easy setup, just plugin 
the camera and click the Record button, flash plugin) and/or via 
Quicktime Streaming Server. The latter would be needed for livestreaming 
it into Second Life (which I would take care of).

The advantages

- possibility for people who cannot attend to attend virtually
- marketing for Python (if there are enough viewers then ustream.tv 
might put this stream also on the frontpage)
- if we do Second Life we might get some blog and link love from the 
Second Life community.
- feedback from the outside. For each ustream channel there is an IRC 
channel and a Java applet attached to the stream (plus you can also show 
the stream on your own page via embed). In Second Life people could do 
the same.

What is needed?

- best would be a network cable (wifi was too flaky at the Plone 
conference) and a power connection for laptop and camera
- for Quicktime it would be cool if somebody could provide a server with 
Darwin Streaming Server installed. ustream.tv should work out of the box 
but cannot be shown in Second Life. This server should have a good 
connection of course (I had problems with my Strato server back then 
when I did this in Seattle for the Plone Conference)

What I would do

- setup the location in Second Life, do the Second Life marketing (I'd 
need a press release)
- setup ustream channel etc.
- do the work at the conference (help would be appreciated though)

Unfortunately one can only do one thing, stream to ustream or Second 
Life. If we want to do both, we'd need 2 cameras and 2 laptops.
OTOH if we do quicktime we can do both, Second Life and webpage, but QT 
seems usually a bit flaky and might not always work while flash video 
seems more stable to me.

So the question is, if there is interest. For the Plone conference at 
least there was interest and we also had some visitors at the Second 
Life booth and I know that people wanted to watch it at least via the 
web (and unfortunately it did not always work).

If there is interest, I'd be happy to do that but of course any help 
would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers,

Christian



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From paul at boddie.org.uk  Tue May  8 01:33:30 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 01:33:30 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Preparations
Message-ID: <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk>

Hello,

I have been making preparations for the opening of registration, following the 
schedule as closely as possible. However, before we actually open 
registration a few things need finalising:

  * Payment information - this may need reviewing both on the Web site and in
    the Indico e-payments module.

    IBAN: SE76 8000 0810 5903 7676 5343
    BIC/SWIFT: SWEDSESS
    Bank Name: Swedbank
    Bank Address: 105 34 Stockholm
    Bank Country: Sweden
    Recipient Name: Europython Society
    Recipient Address: c/o AB Strakt, Norra ?gatan 10, SE-416 64 G?teborg,
    Sweden

  * Any objections to the fees need to be made. See the following page for
    details:

    http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/FeeStructureAttendees

  * The special accommodation details need clarifying: a form (an Excel
    original, I believe, plus something like PDF) was mentioned, but a booking
    code for the hotel site was also considered a possibility.

  * An audit of the Indico registration is needed. Benedikt?!

A few other things:

  * The Call For Sponsors should be issued soon - this needs reviewing, then
    pushing out via the usual channels:

    http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/CallForSponsors

  * We need a keynote speaker announcement - the Web site has a small news
    item ready with details of GvR plus keynote #1, but what about keynote #2?
    (Pictures of keynotes #1 and #2 are sought. We could also just push out
    the Web version, but it wouldn't be as nice as a proper announcement.)

  * A registration announcement is needed. However, it may be acceptable to
    just adapt the Web version when it gets published since it's quite
    comprehensive.

Your thoughts?

Paul

From lac at openend.se  Tue May  8 12:51:37 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 12:51:37 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Preparations
In-Reply-To: Message from Paul Boddie <paul@boddie.org.uk> of "Tue,
	08 May 2007 01:33:30 +0200." <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk> 
References: <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk> 
Message-ID: <200705081051.l48Apbq4021075@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Tue, 08 May 2007 01:33:30 +0200, Paul Boddie writes:

>  * Payment information - this may need reviewing both on the Web site an
>d in
>    the Indico e-payments module.
>
>    IBAN: SE76 8000 0810 5903 7676 5343
>    BIC/SWIFT: SWEDSESS
>    Bank Name: Swedbank
>    Bank Address: 105 34 Stockholm
>    Bank Country: Sweden
>    Recipient Name: Europython Society
>    Recipient Address: c/o AB Strakt, Norra ?gatan 10, SE-416 64 G?teborg,
>    Sweden

Our company name has changed.  c/o Open End AB Norra ?gatan 10A
(the building has 3 doors and now letters on the building doors, too.)

Laura


From aiste at pov.lt  Tue May  8 13:33:01 2007
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 14:33:01 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel registration form
Message-ID: <20070508113259.GC11850@lucky>

Hi,

If you want to book the conference hotel you need a form that will be
posted on EP website.

The registration form for the hotel needs to be emailed or faxed to the
hotel (contact info is given on the form).

Unfortunatelly registering online you won't get the dicount.
Also the hotel asked for a deadline to be set for registration -- 1st of
June.

Also there are good news about internet connection -- it
can be improved, at the moment they have a 2 mbit connection and I am
waiting for information on how much can this be increased.

-- 
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Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt





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From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch  Tue May  8 13:25:43 2007
From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 13:25:43 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Preparations
In-Reply-To: <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk>
References: <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <8FD5B5AA-C085-4BDA-A082-AE6076A8A64E@cern.ch>

Hi Paul,

>   * An audit of the Indico registration is needed. Benedikt?!
Seems to be fine. Only two points:
For the epayment we have to check if the online account information  
is still up to date (at least it's identical to last year's) And I  
remember that someone suggested removing paypal...
I don't know if the accommodation possibilities make any sense. But I  
assume they are correct

I will make some dummy registrations later on. So don't be surprised.

Cheers,
     Benedikt

From micahel at gmail.com  Tue May  8 13:59:13 2007
From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 12:59:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Preparations
In-Reply-To: <8FD5B5AA-C085-4BDA-A082-AE6076A8A64E@cern.ch>
References: <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk>
	<8FD5B5AA-C085-4BDA-A082-AE6076A8A64E@cern.ch>
Message-ID: <aa0dfd860705080459g37bf099eje66265e56602d117@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/05/07, Benedikt Hegner <benedikt.hegner at cern.ch> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> >   * An audit of the Indico registration is needed. Benedikt?!
> Seems to be fine. Only two points:
> For the epayment we have to check if the online account information
> is still up to date (at least it's identical to last year's) And I
> remember that someone suggested removing paypal...
> I don't know if the accommodation possibilities make any sense. But I
> assume they are correct

I think we should keep paypal, it was used by a few people last year.

Cheers,
mwh

From cl2dlope at gmail.com  Tue May  8 14:02:38 2007
From: cl2dlope at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2007 14:02:38 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Preparations
In-Reply-To: <aa0dfd860705080459g37bf099eje66265e56602d117@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200705080133.30832.paul@boddie.org.uk>	<8FD5B5AA-C085-4BDA-A082-AE6076A8A64E@cern.ch>
	<aa0dfd860705080459g37bf099eje66265e56602d117@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <464066DE.2060808@gmail.com>

Michael Hudson said the following on 05/08/2007 01:59 PM:
> On 08/05/07, Benedikt Hegner <benedikt.hegner at cern.ch> wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>>>   * An audit of the Indico registration is needed. Benedikt?!
>> Seems to be fine. Only two points:
>> For the epayment we have to check if the online account information
>> is still up to date (at least it's identical to last year's) And I
>> remember that someone suggested removing paypal...
>> I don't know if the accommodation possibilities make any sense. But I
>> assume they are correct
> 
> I think we should keep paypal, it was used by a few people last year.
> 

I almost forgot:

We need to remember that about 5-6% of each transaction is consumed by
fees to paypal, worldpay, banking, etc.

I forgot to include that in the budget template that I send to Aiste,
but we need to take that into consideration.

/dario

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From paul at boddie.org.uk  Wed May  9 01:07:53 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 01:07:53 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Status
Message-ID: <200705090107.53989.paul@boddie.org.uk>

Hello,

The preparations for registration are mostly complete. Here is what has been 
done (with links for CPS users):

  * Registration information has been updated and made ready on the site:

    http://www.europython.org/workspaces/ep-2007/how-to-register

  * Payment information has been updated and is ready in Indico and on the
    site for the "pay later" (ie. after registration) option. Benedikt will
    fill in the remaining details for e-payments in Indico tomorrow.

    http://www.europython.org/workspaces/ep-2007/payment-information

  * No-one has contested the fees, but there's still time. ;-)

    http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/FeeStructureAttendees

  * Special accommodation details are ready on the site. These will be
    published when registration opens, unless someone thinks that they can be
    published immediately (or as soon as I can manage it). People tell me that
    the 50 room figure was a commitment, not a limit - if there's no real or
    clear limit, we should find out soon so that the registration process
    doesn't scare people with a rapidly decreasing number (like last year).

    http://www.europython.org/workspaces/ep-2007/booking-information

  * Benedikt has been checking the Indico stuff and seems to be satisfied.
    Thanks go to him for doing the scary technical stuff in this department!

If all goes well, we should be pushing out the registration, payment and 
special accommodation pages to the site fairly soon (perhaps within 24 hours) 
and switching on the registration parts of Indico. Then it'll be time to 
announce registration in all the usual places:

http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/PublicRelations

Following on from the last message, comments on the Call For Sponsors, as well 
as any pictures and details of keynote speakers are still very welcome.

Paul

From aiste at pov.lt  Wed May  9 14:56:40 2007
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 15:56:40 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Status
In-Reply-To: <200705090107.53989.paul@boddie.org.uk>
References: <200705090107.53989.paul@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20070509125638.GB14233@lucky>

Hi all,

>   * Special accommodation details are ready on the site. These will be
>     published when registration opens, unless someone thinks that they can be
>     published immediately (or as soon as I can manage it). People tell me that
>     the 50 room figure was a commitment, not a limit - if there's no real or
>     clear limit, we should find out soon so that the registration process
>     doesn't scare people with a rapidly decreasing number (like last year).
> 
>     http://www.europython.org/workspaces/ep-2007/booking-information

It is not a hard limit. So far, they have allocated 50 rooms for the
conference, but if they have more rooms free -- we can have them.

-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt

From mal at egenix.com  Fri May 11 13:06:22 2007
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 13:06:22 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Status
In-Reply-To: <200705090107.53989.paul@boddie.org.uk>
References: <200705090107.53989.paul@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <46444E2E.20503@egenix.com>

On 2007-05-09 01:07, Paul Boddie wrote:
>   * No-one has contested the fees, but there's still time. ;-)
> 
>     http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/FeeStructureAttendees

The student rates seem quite high given that the conference
is in Vilnius. How do you expect Lithuanian/Russian/Belorussian/etc.
students to be able to attend the conference with those student
rates ?

Note that you can't compare this to PyCon or other years with
the conference in different parts of Europe. Students there
usually have a lot more to spend.

In e.g. Belarus by contrast, people often have to live a whole month
on EUR 100.

Regards,
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From jonny at sharebear.co.uk  Sun May 13 16:33:02 2007
From: jonny at sharebear.co.uk (Jonathan Share)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 16:33:02 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration information
Message-ID: <4647219E.70005@sharebear.co.uk>

Hi,

http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues

says "Information on fees, the registration process, payment and 
accommodation will be posted below once registration is open."

According to

http://www.europython.org/sections/calendar

"8th May: Registration opens"

I also note that keynote speakers have not yet been announced as scheduled.

Are you just behind schedule with preparations or is the event dead?

Kind Regards,

Jon

From paul at boddie.org.uk  Mon May 14 00:25:18 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 00:25:18 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration information
In-Reply-To: <4647219E.70005@sharebear.co.uk>
References: <4647219E.70005@sharebear.co.uk>
Message-ID: <200705140025.19537.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Sunday 13 May 2007 16:33, Jonathan Share wrote:
>
> Are you just behind schedule with preparations or is the event dead?

We're just behind schedule with preparations and can only offer our apologies 
for not rolling everything out in a more timely fashion.

Paul

From david at boddie.org.uk  Mon May 14 01:44:06 2007
From: david at boddie.org.uk (David Boddie)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 01:44:06 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 IRC Meeting #10 (2007-05-14)
Message-ID: <200705140144.07055.david@boddie.org.uk>

Just a reminder that there's another IRC meeting today, Monday 14th May
(2007-05-14) 18:00 CEST (17:00 BST, 16:00 UTC/GMT) in the #europython channel
on freenode.net. That's 5pm UK time, 6pm in most of Western Europe.

The suggested duration of the meeting is at most one hour.

Agenda: http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/IrcMeetings/IrcMeeting10

David

From lozinski at freerecruiting.com  Mon May 14 05:21:17 2007
From: lozinski at freerecruiting.com (Christopher Lozinski)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 20:21:17 -0700
Subject: [EuroPython] Thank you for hosting the euro python conference
Message-ID: <4647D5AD.8030107@freerecruiting.com>

Would you be willing to host our python job market widget on your site?

http://python.specialtyjobmarkets.com/Resumes/Widgets

Can we talk about this?

Regards
Chris
508 275 0686
California time zone.



From rozita.raissi at gmail.com  Mon May 14 07:50:44 2007
From: rozita.raissi at gmail.com (Rozita)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:20:44 +0330
Subject: [EuroPython] Help for visa
Message-ID: <004401c795eb$d1b37240$0f00a8c0@rvm>

Hi Sir/Madam,

 

I'm a Python programmer from Iran. I'm eager to attend the europython
conference. Because there is no consulate or embassy for Lithuania in Iran,
I can not take visa for my trip from Iran. Would you please guide me and let
me know how I can prepare the visa?

 

Regards,

Rozita Raissi

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From tim at timhatch.com  Mon May 14 15:33:40 2007
From: tim at timhatch.com (Tim Hatch)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 08:33:40 -0500
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration for Europython?
Message-ID: <7BC11E8B-B899-4AC2-9395-EB4A725C7690@timhatch.com>

I'm planning a trip from the U.S. and wanted to make sure that  
Europython is still happening... I haven't seen anything posted on  
the website about registration yet.

Tim

From lac at openend.se  Mon May 14 15:38:06 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:38:06 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration for Europython?
In-Reply-To: Message from Tim Hatch <tim@timhatch.com> of "Mon,
	14 May 2007 08:33:40 CDT."
	<7BC11E8B-B899-4AC2-9395-EB4A725C7690@timhatch.com> 
References: <7BC11E8B-B899-4AC2-9395-EB4A725C7690@timhatch.com> 
Message-ID: <200705141338.l4EDc6JH025058@theraft.openend.se>

It is still happening.  We apologise for the delays and are working on it.

Laura Creighton


From paul at boddie.org.uk  Mon May 14 20:02:47 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 20:02:47 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Help for visa
In-Reply-To: <004401c795eb$d1b37240$0f00a8c0@rvm>
References: <004401c795eb$d1b37240$0f00a8c0@rvm>
Message-ID: <200705142002.47253.paul@boddie.org.uk>

Hello,

> I'm a Python programmer from Iran. I'm eager to attend the europython
> conference. Because there is no consulate or embassy for Lithuania in Iran,
> I can not take visa for my trip from Iran. Would you please guide me and
> let me know how I can prepare the visa?

Some searching revealed this list of diplomatic missions from the Lithuanian 
Ministry of Foreign Affairs:

http://www.urm.lt/index.php?195793759

It would seem that the Lithuanian embassy in Turkey is responsible for 
diplomatic relations with your country:

http://tr.mfa.lt

Please note that this information is provided as a "best effort" and that 
further guidance must be sought from the appropriate authorities on such 
matters. I have no experience in such matters myself and unfortunately cannot 
provide any more substantial advice, but I hope that this information is a 
useful starting point.

Regards,

Paul

From mal at egenix.com  Tue May 15 23:50:25 2007
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 23:50:25 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Status
In-Reply-To: <46444E2E.20503@egenix.com>
References: <200705090107.53989.paul@boddie.org.uk> <46444E2E.20503@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <464A2B21.2060409@egenix.com>

On 2007-05-11 13:06, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 2007-05-09 01:07, Paul Boddie wrote:
>>   * No-one has contested the fees, but there's still time. ;-)
>>
>>     http://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython/2007/FeeStructureAttendees
> 
> The student rates seem quite high given that the conference
> is in Vilnius. How do you expect Lithuanian/Russian/Belorussian/etc.
> students to be able to attend the conference with those student
> rates ?
> 
> Note that you can't compare this to PyCon or other years with
> the conference in different parts of Europe. Students there
> usually have a lot more to spend.
> 
> In e.g. Belarus by contrast, people often have to live a whole month
> on EUR 100.

Thanks for changing the student rates !

Regards,
-- 
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From paul at boddie.org.uk  Wed May 16 00:55:10 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 00:55:10 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Videostreamin' ?
In-Reply-To: <463F06F6.9070303@comlounge.net>
References: <463F06F6.9070303@comlounge.net>
Message-ID: <200705160055.11138.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Monday 07 May 2007 13:01, Christian Scholz wrote:
>
> I wanted to propose to stream parts of the conference live via internet
> and eventually Second Life. I'd bring the camera anyway and streaming
> can be done either via http://ustream.tv (very easy setup, just plugin
> the camera and click the Record button, flash plugin) and/or via
> Quicktime Streaming Server. The latter would be needed for livestreaming
> it into Second Life (which I would take care of).

Sorry to leave you waiting for so long without a response! As I've said in 
various places, I think the FOSDEM videos were done very well, although I 
only looked at the downloads - I don't know if they did actual streaming - 
and I have seen streaming from conferences like aKademy done fairly well, 
too. Here's a page I just saw about this very kind of thing:

http://wingolog.org/archives/2006/07/07/so-you-want-to-stream-a-conference

However, one very important aspect of the FOSDEM materials, and quite probably 
the other materials too, was the open format employed. For many users, 
Quicktime is either inaccessible or involves pacing on the version treadmill  
set in motion by Apple. And whilst Flash is a widespread phenomenon, it too 
has similar limitations.

This is only my personal opinion, though. If you're enthusiastic about 
streaming stuff and this is the way you want to do it, then I don't want to 
rain on your parade. However, if there's all sorts of additional work 
involved (extra servers, more software), I'd rather see it directed toward 
providing materials in open formats, myself.

This is an interesting idea, though, and I'd like to see it discussed further.

Paul

From oouc at yahoo.com  Wed May 16 07:25:49 2007
From: oouc at yahoo.com (Oouc)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 22:25:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [EuroPython] Refereed paper abstract ready to submit. Confused by
	"summary."
Message-ID: <740102.3208.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I have an abstract ready to submit.   I would like to try for a 
Refereed Paper.  When I saw summary below abstract, I searched for 
over an hour, slow Internet in Asia, and could not find more 
information on EuroPython.org.  In fact the 3 hits for summary 
only had abstract but not summary on 2 of them.  Google search 
did the same thing often.  Please clarify if a summary is 
necessary at this point.  I usually see abstracts and then the 
whole paper if I am doing research.  Telling me how you plan to 
use or publish the summary would be helpful.

I have an abstract in plain text with hard line ends and another 
version which is the one line per paragraph which most word 
processors use.  Which one do you want?


From arigo at tunes.org  Wed May 16 20:04:01 2007
From: arigo at tunes.org (Armin Rigo)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 20:04:01 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Refereed paper abstract ready to submit. Confused
	by "summary."
In-Reply-To: <740102.3208.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <740102.3208.qm@web30802.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20070516180401.GA18039@code0.codespeak.net>

Hi,

On Tue, May 15, 2007 at 10:25:49PM -0700, Oouc wrote:
> I have an abstract ready to submit.   I would like to try for a 
> Refereed Paper.  When I saw summary below abstract,

Sorry for the confusion.  At this point we only expect an abstract.  The
summary is optional, and present only because it's the way the
submission system that we use (borrowed from the CERN, where last year's
EuroPython was held) is organized.

> I have an abstract in plain text with hard line ends and another 
> version which is the one line per paragraph which most word 
> processors use.  Which one do you want?

The one line per paragraph version will probably be easier for us to
handle uniformly.


A bientot,

Armin.

From duncan at grisby.org  Fri May 18 14:53:36 2007
From: duncan at grisby.org (Duncan Grisby)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 13:53:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission problem
Message-ID: <E1Hp1xU-0007PH-JB@apasphere.com>

Hi,

I am trying to submit a talk proposal for EuroPython. I signed up for an
account on the CERN thing, and it sent me a confirmation email, and I
successfully activated the account and chose a password. Unfortunately,
I can't login. I enter my email address and password, and it fails
saying "Wrong login or password". I tried filling in the password
reminder and it hasn't emailed me anything either.

What should I do?

Serves me right for waiting until the last day, I suppose...

Cheers,

Duncan.

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From cs at comlounge.net  Fri May 18 15:36:34 2007
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:36:34 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Videostreamin' ?
In-Reply-To: <200705160055.11138.paul@boddie.org.uk>
References: <463F06F6.9070303@comlounge.net>
	<200705160055.11138.paul@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <464DABE2.3070108@comlounge.net>

HI!

>> I wanted to propose to stream parts of the conference live via internet
>> and eventually Second Life. I'd bring the camera anyway and streaming
>> can be done either via http://ustream.tv (very easy setup, just plugin
>> the camera and click the Record button, flash plugin) and/or via
>> Quicktime Streaming Server. The latter would be needed for livestreaming
>> it into Second Life (which I would take care of).
> 
> Sorry to leave you waiting for so long without a response! As I've said in 
> various places, I think the FOSDEM videos were done very well, although I 
> only looked at the downloads - I don't know if they did actual streaming - 
> and I have seen streaming from conferences like aKademy done fairly well, 
> too. Here's a page I just saw about this very kind of thing:
> 
> http://wingolog.org/archives/2006/07/07/so-you-want-to-stream-a-conference
> 
> However, one very important aspect of the FOSDEM materials, and quite probably 
> the other materials too, was the open format employed. For many users, 
> Quicktime is either inaccessible or involves pacing on the version treadmill  
> set in motion by Apple. And whilst Flash is a widespread phenomenon, it too 
> has similar limitations.
> 
> This is only my personal opinion, though. If you're enthusiastic about 
> streaming stuff and this is the way you want to do it, then I don't want to 
> rain on your parade. However, if there's all sorts of additional work 
> involved (extra servers, more software), I'd rather see it directed toward 
> providing materials in open formats, myself.

Well, I'd rather go with Flash and/or Quicktime just because it's the 
easiest to setup plus you have directly e.g. a community at ustream.tv 
which would be exposed to something different and (hopefully) 
interesting to them.

Quicktime would be my other choice because unfortunately Second Life 
only supports Quicktime streaming at the moment and it would be a nice 
marketing thing to have it streaming there where people can even meet in 
front of the screen and discuss about what they just see.
(we even shortly had some sort of backchannel from the Second Life world 
into the Plone conference back in September where Martijn Faassen was 
in-world and asking (more of a fun question though) to the speakers.

So for me it actually would be easiest to stream via flash to ustream as 
this would only involve a network connection (and eventually a network 
cable as it is more reliable than Wifi). ustream.tv can also record btw 
and you can download the videos (as flash videos) afterwards so there is 
maybe even a way of converting it to other formats.

As for Quicktime I probably would need somebody to provide a server with 
good network connection who is willing to install Darwin Streaming 
Server on it. This might be the bigger problem I assume so I guess I'd 
go with ustream.tv.

I will of course also record some of the stuff and this can be converted 
to whatever format afterwards (but also here I usually go with quicktime 
usually for comlounge.tv as it's supported by the most players out there 
and esp. on the iPod).
I am just not sure how much work this converting might involve and if I 
will have time for that but I can definitely provide the material so any 
body could actually step in.

Ok, as I will bring my camera anyway we can also see then what is 
possible and what is not. Everything should be setup fairly quickly.

cheers,

Christian


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From david at boddie.org.uk  Fri May 18 15:25:13 2007
From: david at boddie.org.uk (David Boddie)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 15:25:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython]  Talk submission problem
Message-ID: <200705181525.13222.david@boddie.org.uk>

On Fri May 18 14:53:36 CEST 2007, Duncan Grisby wrote:

> I am trying to submit a talk proposal for EuroPython. I signed up for an
> account on the CERN thing, and it sent me a confirmation email, and I
> successfully activated the account and chose a password. Unfortunately,
> I can't login. I enter my email address and password, and it fails
> saying "Wrong login or password". I tried filling in the password
> reminder and it hasn't emailed me anything either.

Did you choose a user name that's different to your e-mail address? When I
login, I use my user name and not my e-mail address.

David

From duncan at grisby.org  Fri May 18 15:50:17 2007
From: duncan at grisby.org (Duncan Grisby)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 14:50:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission problem
In-Reply-To: <200705181525.13222.david@boddie.org.uk> 
Message-ID: <E1Hp2qL-0007a7-SF@apasphere.com>

On Friday 18 May, David Boddie wrote:

> > I am trying to submit a talk proposal for EuroPython. I signed up for an
> > account on the CERN thing, and it sent me a confirmation email, and I
> > successfully activated the account and chose a password. Unfortunately,
> > I can't login. I enter my email address and password, and it fails
> > saying "Wrong login or password". I tried filling in the password
> > reminder and it hasn't emailed me anything either.
> 
> Did you choose a user name that's different to your e-mail address? When I
> login, I use my user name and not my e-mail address.

It didn't give me an opportunity to choose a user name.

Thanks for helping,

Duncan.

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From david at boddie.org.uk  Fri May 18 16:24:58 2007
From: david at boddie.org.uk (David Boddie)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 16:24:58 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission problem
In-Reply-To: <E1Hp2qL-0007a7-SF@apasphere.com>
References: <E1Hp2qL-0007a7-SF@apasphere.com>
Message-ID: <200705181624.58065.david@boddie.org.uk>

On Friday 18 May 2007 15:50, Duncan Grisby wrote:
> On Friday 18 May, David Boddie wrote:
> 
> > Did you choose a user name that's different to your e-mail address? When I
> > login, I use my user name and not my e-mail address.
> 
> It didn't give me an opportunity to choose a user name.

Maybe your user name is the first part of your e-mail address. I don't
remember how it worked when I registered last year.

You may have to e-mail the support address at the bottom of the login
page if you haven't received an e-mail message with your details.

David

From stefano.masini at pragma2000.com  Fri May 18 21:06:37 2007
From: stefano.masini at pragma2000.com (Stefano Masini)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 21:06:37 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission
Message-ID: <1bdedd7a0705181206h7d87baaewda5cba9001fb1d56@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I know I'm terribly late, but I would like to submit a talk, and
Indico won't send me a reminder email for my account. I'll try again
early tomorrow morning... but just in case, here it is the abstract:

A practical example of Test Driven Development for a GUI using wxPython

I will show a step by step example of building a small user interface
using wxPython.
The example will only be marginally related to wxPython itself and,
even though previous
background won't be necessary, it'll be explained only as much as
necessary to understand
the rest of the talk. The goal is to show the practice of Test Driven
Development. The
code will follow the Model View Controller pattern and testing will be
making use of
mock objects, in order to simulate the View.

Thanks!
Stefano Masini

From stefano.masini at pragma2000.com  Fri May 18 23:08:39 2007
From: stefano.masini at pragma2000.com (Stefano Masini)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 23:08:39 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission
In-Reply-To: <1bdedd7a0705181206h7d87baaewda5cba9001fb1d56@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1bdedd7a0705181206h7d87baaewda5cba9001fb1d56@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1bdedd7a0705181408y31277d67m47917c6b784a0625@mail.gmail.com>

Never mind... I got it working on Indico.

Thanks
stefano


On 5/18/07, Stefano Masini <stefano.masini at pragma2000.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I know I'm terribly late, but I would like to submit a talk, and
> Indico won't send me a reminder email for my account. I'll try again
> early tomorrow morning... but just in case, here it is the abstract:
>
> A practical example of Test Driven Development for a GUI using wxPython
>
> I will show a step by step example of building a small user interface
> using wxPython.
> The example will only be marginally related to wxPython itself and,
> even though previous
> background won't be necessary, it'll be explained only as much as
> necessary to understand
> the rest of the talk. The goal is to show the practice of Test Driven
> Development. The
> code will follow the Model View Controller pattern and testing will be
> making use of
> mock objects, in order to simulate the View.
>
> Thanks!
> Stefano Masini
>

From jodok at lovelysystems.com  Sat May 19 00:45:28 2007
From: jodok at lovelysystems.com (Jodok Batlogg)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 00:45:28 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] [Zope3-dev] EuroPython talk submission deadline
	tomorrow!
In-Reply-To: <8928d4e90705171215q353e07eco2771d543207b11c0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8928d4e90705171215q353e07eco2771d543207b11c0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6C016A5D-B51F-4219-801F-A6F7E525338D@lovelysystems.com>

On 17.05.2007, at 21:15, Martijn Faassen wrote:

> Hi there,
>
> Tomorrow (friday may 18) is the EuroPython talk submission deadline!
> So if you are thinking about giving a talk at EuroPython, please
> submit it soon!

bummer :(
i missed the deadline by 38 minutes :(

any chance to submit lovely systems proposal via mail?

we'd like to talk about "high performance zope3".
lovely systems is working on "web2.0 portals" that have pretty heavy  
load (peak 250 mbit/s, > 1000 concurrent connections).
i'll talk about the general architecture goals when running "big"  
portals based on zope3 (nginx reverse proxies, varnish caches,  
memcached, ipvs load balancers,...), strategies to monitor and  
improve zope3 settings (z3monitor, zservertracelog, cache  
tuning,...), do and don'ts
we'll also release some of our performance-tuning (caching,...)  
python packages at this event.

thanks - and sorry for beeing late

jodok

>
> http://www.europython.org/
>
> Regards,
>
> Martijn
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From paul at boddie.org.uk  Sat May 19 01:41:01 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 01:41:01 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] [Zope3-dev] EuroPython talk submission deadline
 tomorrow!
In-Reply-To: <6C016A5D-B51F-4219-801F-A6F7E525338D@lovelysystems.com>
References: <8928d4e90705171215q353e07eco2771d543207b11c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<6C016A5D-B51F-4219-801F-A6F7E525338D@lovelysystems.com>
Message-ID: <200705190141.01689.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Saturday 19 May 2007 00:45, Jodok Batlogg wrote:
> On 17.05.2007, at 21:15, Martijn Faassen wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Tomorrow (friday may 18) is the EuroPython talk submission deadline!
> > So if you are thinking about giving a talk at EuroPython, please
> > submit it soon!
>
> bummer :(
> i missed the deadline by 38 minutes :(
>
> any chance to submit lovely systems proposal via mail?

I don't want to say anything I'm not "authorised" to say, but I think it quite 
likely that we'll extend the period for submitting talks, meaning that 
everyone who tried to submit talks at the last minute but then experienced 
account difficulties, or anyone who didn't have time during the week to 
finish off their proposal can still submit a talk.

> we'd like to talk about "high performance zope3".
> lovely systems is working on "web2.0 portals" that have pretty heavy
> load (peak 250 mbit/s, > 1000 concurrent connections).
> i'll talk about the general architecture goals when running "big"
> portals based on zope3 (nginx reverse proxies, varnish caches,
> memcached, ipvs load balancers,...), strategies to monitor and
> improve zope3 settings (z3monitor, zservertracelog, cache
> tuning,...), do and don'ts
> we'll also release some of our performance-tuning (caching,...)
> python packages at this event.

Well you've got my attention, anyway. ;-)

But unless someone in the talks department decides otherwise, the deadline is 
likely to be pushed back a few days. We'll bring you some news on this topic 
tomorrow.

> thanks - and sorry for beeing late

No problem!

Paul

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Sat May 19 12:15:51 2007
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 12:15:51 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com>

Do we think that that are enough?

Or should measures be taken?

Harald

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EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th
July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there!

From lac at openend.se  Sat May 19 14:44:33 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 14:44:33 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
In-Reply-To: Message from "Harald Armin Massa" <haraldarminmassa@gmail.com> 
	of "Sat, 19 May 2007 12:15:51 +0200."
	<7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Sat, 19 May 2007 12:15:51 +0200, "Harald Armin Massa" writes:
>Do we think that that are enough?
>
>Or should measures be taken?
>
>Harald

I have 3 that were mailed to me rather than submitted, by people who
waited till the very last to submit and then had something not work
or otherwise delay them.  I think that is a little light.  I'm for browsing 
what we have and then seeing where we have holes, and seeing if we
can solicit papers to fill the gaps.  What do the rest of you think?

Laura

From duncan at grisby.org  Sat May 19 17:29:52 2007
From: duncan at grisby.org (Duncan Grisby)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 16:29:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission problem
In-Reply-To: <200705181624.58065.david@boddie.org.uk> 
Message-ID: <E1HpQsG-0004ik-JR@apasphere.com>

On Friday 18 May, David Boddie wrote:

> You may have to e-mail the support address at the bottom of the login
> page if you haven't received an e-mail message with your details.

I emailed the support people, and they sorted me out. For some reason
the account didn't activate even though it told me it had.

Thanks to everyone to helped.

Cheers,

Duncan.

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From lucio.torre at gmail.com  Sat May 19 01:02:23 2007
From: lucio.torre at gmail.com (Lucio Torre)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 20:02:23 -0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission for EuroPython
In-Reply-To: <999187ed0705181545k1e7f2730l28db8a94e0842a45@mail.gmail.com>
References: <999187ed0705181509m76b6672fqa98e15d5592126a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<1918a2ec0705181539v444bbaa3sb0da53fe831dd08b@mail.gmail.com>
	<999187ed0705181545k1e7f2730l28db8a94e0842a45@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <999187ed0705181602g7f7bde4ejef8b8c31dd177e4@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, we have prepared a talk on pygame that we have already given at
pycon2007 and we were about to submit it to europython2007.

We had a small time zone miscalculation, which led us to being a few
minutes late to submit it via the website. (It's still May 18 here in
Buenos Aires!).
We are attaching the talk anyway, just in case it can be submitted
some other way.

We have also sent this mail to Laura Creighton, since she was the one
that requested talks for europython in the pygame mailing list, but we
are sending it to this address for completeness.

Sorry for the inconvenience. We have been planing this presentation
for some time and didn't want to miss this opportunity.

Thank you very much.

Regards from Argentina,
Lucio Torre and Alejandro Cura.

--------

Title
-----
"Pyweek: making games in 7 days"

Summary
-------
The objective of this talk is to encourage people to participate in
pyweek. We explain what the contest is, when it takes place, who can
and does participate and why everybody should. A quick review of the
most unique games is given, plus an account of the fun experience we
had developing our entries. We also talk about how python is the
perfect match for this kind of tight schedules, and about what the
contest brings back into the python community.

Description
-----------
* 150 new games made with python, in only 2 years
* a very busy week, twice a year
* our first pyweek: STIM
* the challengers
* peer review and voting
* the winners
* lessons learned
* the pyweek.draw 64k challenge
* pyweek again: making Typus Pocus
 * strategies
 * splitting the tasks
 * iterating over features
* the challengers
* the winners
* wrapping up
 * original games
 * tools, libraries: new and improved
 * more people learning python and how to make games with python
  * improve coding, teamwork & nunchaku skills
* the next one is very soon!

About the speakers
------------------
Alejandro J. Cura and Lucio Torre are active members of PyAr, the
Python Users Group from Argentina. Both are part of an Argentinian
team that has made four games for the PyWeek game competition, the
latest two were awarded first and second place. They have recently
given a talk called "pyweek: making games in 7 days" during PyCon 2007
in Dallas, USA.

alecu, born Alejandro J. Cura has been using python since 1996. Right
now he works in a high profile bank in Buenos Aires, where he has
achieved sneaking jython past management's java monoculture. Since
joining PyAr, alecu has been encouraging people in most of Argentina
to make up teams to participate in pyweek. His talk on pygame and
pyweek has been presented in "PythonDay C?rdoba" in August 2006 and in
"CafeConf Buenos Aires" in November 2006.

Lucio Torre is a programmer and entrepreneur who has been using python
for a long time. He is one of the first members of PyAr, the
Argentinian python users group. He has used python for many types of
applications in many industries. He has given many talks in various
places, including many local universities, MIT and Harvard Club and
technology related conferences. This last years he has been promoting
python, giving talks and tutorials in three provinces. Some time ago,
he also made a simple port of the CPython interpreter for PalmOS.

Grant Request
-------------------

For this presentation we are asking for a grant to support our travel
and lodging expenses. For the last pycon we've offered ourselves for
helping with the setup and giving a tutorial to help pay for the
expenses. We also plan for this conference to have an open space
showing the games that were made during all of the pyweeks
competitions and trying to get more people to participate.

Our main goals for this trip are (besides personal enlightenment)  fostering
communications between the global python communities and the very active
python Argentina and promoting pyweek. Working this way we have been
very successful in developing the spirit of community among python
programmers in all the regions of our country.

Last pyweek, participation was up from 30 to 53 finished games. Even 3
teams from Argentina competed. We expect to continue helping this
event by promoting the challenge and showing some of the results that
came from it.

From paul at boddie.org.uk  Sat May 19 23:19:54 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2007 23:19:54 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
In-Reply-To: <200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se>
References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Saturday 19 May 2007 14:44, Laura Creighton wrote:
>
> I have 3 that were mailed to me rather than submitted, by people who
> waited till the very last to submit and then had something not work
> or otherwise delay them.  I think that is a little light.  I'm for browsing
> what we have and then seeing where we have holes, and seeing if we
> can solicit papers to fill the gaps.  What do the rest of you think?

I suggest we just extend the deadline to next Friday. That way, anyone who 
wanted to submit something but didn't get round to completing it before the 
weekend can still do so. Perhaps we'll get some surprises!

Paul

From lac at openend.se  Sun May 20 08:45:25 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 08:45:25 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
In-Reply-To: Message from Paul Boddie <paul@boddie.org.uk> of "Sat,
	19 May 2007 23:19:54 +0200." <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> 
References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se>
	<200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk> 
Message-ID: <200705200645.l4K6jPMf007462@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Sat, 19 May 2007 23:19:54 +0200, Paul Boddie writes:
>On Saturday 19 May 2007 14:44, Laura Creighton wrote:
>>
>> I have 3 that were mailed to me rather than submitted, by people who
>> waited till the very last to submit and then had something not work
>> or otherwise delay them.  I think that is a little light.  I'm for brow
>sing
>> what we have and then seeing where we have holes, and seeing if we
>> can solicit papers to fill the gaps.  What do the rest of you think?
>
>I suggest we just extend the deadline to next Friday. That way, anyone wh
>o 
>wanted to submit something but didn't get round to completing it before t
>he 
>weekend can still do so. Perhaps we'll get some surprises!
>
>Paul

Also fine by me.

Laura


From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Sun May 20 10:31:31 2007
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 10:31:31 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
In-Reply-To: <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk>
References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se>
	<200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com>

Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within

a) europython website
b) comp.lang.python

Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak
up now or be silent forever? :)

Harald


-- 
GHUM Harald Massa
persuadere et programmare
Harald Armin Massa
Reinsburgstra?e 202b
70197 Stuttgart
0173/9409607
fx 01212-5-13695179
-
EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th
July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there!

From micahel at gmail.com  Sun May 20 10:38:54 2007
From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 09:38:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se>
	<200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk>
	<7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aa0dfd860705200138i33c16421pf95b64bc526a5b45@mail.gmail.com>

On 20/05/07, Harald Armin Massa <haraldarminmassa at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within
>
> a) europython website
> b) comp.lang.python
>
> Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak
> up now or be silent forever? :)

An extension until Friday sounds like a very good plan to me, as does
spamming this information around.

Cheers,
mwh
(this years somewhat overwhelmed programme chair...)

From lac at openend.se  Sun May 20 11:11:29 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 11:11:29 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
In-Reply-To: Message from "Michael Hudson" <micahel@gmail.com> of "Sun,
	20 May 2007 09:38:54 BST."
	<aa0dfd860705200138i33c16421pf95b64bc526a5b45@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se>
	<200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk>
	<7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com>
	<aa0dfd860705200138i33c16421pf95b64bc526a5b45@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200705200911.l4K9BTDf001323@theraft.openend.se>


Harald, can you mail them all about the program extension?

Laura -- in the mood for 'lets just do it'

In a message of Sun, 20 May 2007 09:38:54 BST, "Michael Hudson" writes:
>On 20/05/07, Harald Armin Massa <haraldarminmassa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within
>>
>> a) europython website
>> b) comp.lang.python
>>
>> Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak
>> up now or be silent forever? :)
>
>An extension until Friday sounds like a very good plan to me, as does
>spamming this information around.
>
>Cheers,
>mwh
>(this years somewhat overwhelmed programme chair...)
>_______________________________________________
>EuroPython mailing list
>EuroPython at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Sun May 20 11:34:46 2007
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 11:34:46 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
In-Reply-To: <200705200911.l4K9BTDf001323@theraft.openend.se>
References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se>
	<200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk>
	<7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com>
	<micahel@gmail.com>
	<aa0dfd860705200138i33c16421pf95b64bc526a5b45@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705200911.l4K9BTDf001323@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705200234t73186952oa6d5f630e372a495@mail.gmail.com>

Laura,

I will spam c.l.p. Who will update da website, because I do not have
access to it.

Harald

On 5/20/07, Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se> wrote:
>
> Harald, can you mail them all about the program extension?
>
> Laura -- in the mood for 'lets just do it'
>
> In a message of Sun, 20 May 2007 09:38:54 BST, "Michael Hudson" writes:
> >On 20/05/07, Harald Armin Massa <haraldarminmassa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within
> >>
> >> a) europython website
> >> b) comp.lang.python
> >>
> >> Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak
> >> up now or be silent forever? :)
> >
> >An extension until Friday sounds like a very good plan to me, as does
> >spamming this information around.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >mwh
> >(this years somewhat overwhelmed programme chair...)
> >_______________________________________________
> >EuroPython mailing list
> >EuroPython at python.org
> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>


-- 
GHUM Harald Massa
persuadere et programmare
Harald Armin Massa
Reinsburgstra?e 202b
70197 Stuttgart
0173/9409607
fx 01212-5-13695179
-
EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th
July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there!

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Sun May 20 11:38:00 2007
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 11:38:00 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
In-Reply-To: <200705200911.l4K9BTDf001323@theraft.openend.se>
References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se>
	<200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk>
	<7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com>
	<micahel@gmail.com>
	<aa0dfd860705200138i33c16421pf95b64bc526a5b45@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705200911.l4K9BTDf001323@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705200238v6bf5d427na7b6805df83a29@mail.gmail.com>

Bene!!

can you PLEASE reopen the talk submission on INDICO, and set a new
closing date for 25. Mai 2007 ?

Harald

On 5/20/07, Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se> wrote:
>
> Harald, can you mail them all about the program extension?
>
> Laura -- in the mood for 'lets just do it'
>
> In a message of Sun, 20 May 2007 09:38:54 BST, "Michael Hudson" writes:
> >On 20/05/07, Harald Armin Massa <haraldarminmassa at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within
> >>
> >> a) europython website
> >> b) comp.lang.python
> >>
> >> Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak
> >> up now or be silent forever? :)
> >
> >An extension until Friday sounds like a very good plan to me, as does
> >spamming this information around.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >mwh
> >(this years somewhat overwhelmed programme chair...)
> >_______________________________________________
> >EuroPython mailing list
> >EuroPython at python.org
> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>


-- 
GHUM Harald Massa
persuadere et programmare
Harald Armin Massa
Reinsburgstra?e 202b
70197 Stuttgart
0173/9409607
fx 01212-5-13695179
-
EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th
July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there!

From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch  Sun May 20 11:57:32 2007
From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 11:57:32 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0705200238v6bf5d427na7b6805df83a29@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se>
	<200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk>
	<7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com>
	<micahel@gmail.com>
	<aa0dfd860705200138i33c16421pf95b64bc526a5b45@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705200911.l4K9BTDf001323@theraft.openend.se>
	<7be3f35d0705200238v6bf5d427na7b6805df83a29@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <141F548B-BD12-4C49-8BD7-8871E3442F9E@cern.ch>

Hi Harald,

it seems someone else did it already...

Ciao
Benedikt

On May 20, 2007, at 11:38 AM, Harald Armin Massa wrote:

> Bene!!
>
> can you PLEASE reopen the talk submission on INDICO, and set a new
> closing date for 25. Mai 2007 ?
>
> Harald
>
> On 5/20/07, Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se> wrote:
>>
>> Harald, can you mail them all about the program extension?
>>
>> Laura -- in the mood for 'lets just do it'
>>
>> In a message of Sun, 20 May 2007 09:38:54 BST, "Michael Hudson"  
>> writes:
>> >On 20/05/07, Harald Armin Massa <haraldarminmassa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within
>> >>
>> >> a) europython website
>> >> b) comp.lang.python
>> >>
>> >> Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please  
>> speak
>> >> up now or be silent forever? :)
>> >
>> >An extension until Friday sounds like a very good plan to me, as  
>> does
>> >spamming this information around.
>> >
>> >Cheers,
>> >mwh
>> >(this years somewhat overwhelmed programme chair...)
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >EuroPython mailing list
>> >EuroPython at python.org
>> >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>
>
> -- 
> GHUM Harald Massa
> persuadere et programmare
> Harald Armin Massa
> Reinsburgstra?e 202b
> 70197 Stuttgart
> 0173/9409607
> fx 01212-5-13695179
> -
> EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th
> July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there!


From paul at boddie.org.uk  Sun May 20 17:03:31 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 17:03:31 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk>
	<7be3f35d0705200131u40c65c3blf5dafeee43e25751@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200705201703.31738.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Sunday 20 May 2007 10:31, Harald Armin Massa wrote:
> Good idea. To do this extension we should pronounce ASAP within
>
> a) europython website
> b) comp.lang.python
>
> Do we agree that we proceed that way? Can all who do not please speak
> up now or be silent forever? :)

I've uploaded an announcement and will adjust the calendar and other things to 
match. We really need to commit to firm dates for the other things, and I'm 
tempted to suggest...

  * May 22nd as the registration opening date (only three weeks after we
    promised, sigh!), with or without the full complement of e-payment
    modules.

  * A keynote announcement when the registration opens.

  * May 31st for the schedule announcement.

  * June 8th for the end of early registration (at the very least).

  * The call for sponsors may as well go out now.

Let us also not forget the usual IRC meeting tomorrow where we should make 
absolutely sure that we're ready for registration.

Paul

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Sun May 20 18:57:57 2007
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 18:57:57 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] has somebody seen my "talkextended" in c.l.p. ???
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705200957gbbbf577kbafb45b64524afa0@mail.gmail.com>

because I am missing it there:(

-- 
GHUM Harald Massa
persuadere et programmare
Harald Armin Massa
Reinsburgstra?e 202b
70197 Stuttgart
0173/9409607
fx 01212-5-13695179
-
EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th
July to Wednesday 11th July. See you there!

From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr  Sun May 20 19:57:43 2007
From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 19:57:43 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
In-Reply-To: <200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk>
References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se>
	<200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <20070520175743.GA2736@crater.logilab.fr>

On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 11:19:54PM +0200, Paul Boddie wrote:

> I suggest we just extend the deadline to next Friday.

+1

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances  

From nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be  Sun May 20 21:13:43 2007
From: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be (Nicolas Pettiaux)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2007 21:13:43 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Aktual Status: we have 51 Talk Submissions
In-Reply-To: <20070520175743.GA2736@crater.logilab.fr>
References: <7be3f35d0705190315l13acc0ex4b8630d13c5d6bb9@mail.gmail.com>
	<200705191244.l4JCiXMC003466@theraft.openend.se>
	<200705192319.54215.paul@boddie.org.uk>
	<20070520175743.GA2736@crater.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <f89206d80705201213y24c8e8cal50276f164ed7f250@mail.gmail.com>

2007/5/20, Nicolas Chauvat <nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr>:

> > I suggest we just extend the deadline to next Friday.

I share the idea. +1

Nicolas

-- 
Nicolas Pettiaux - email: nicolas.pettiaux at ael.be
Utiliser des formats ouverts et des logiciels libres -
http://www.passeralinux.org

From kitblake at gmail.com  Tue May 22 12:14:16 2007
From: kitblake at gmail.com (kit BLAKE)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 12:14:16 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel registration form
In-Reply-To: <20070508113259.GC11850@lucky>
References: <20070508113259.GC11850@lucky>
Message-ID: <32a4a00c0705220314j42327ed2n3c6a8027c4194265@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Aiste / organizers,
On the registration form (Excel sheet) for Hotel Lietuva is the following text:

"In case of a no-show or cancellation we will charge for the whole
period reservation was made for."

That makes me nervous. If that's the case we won't reserve until the
last minute. That makes me nervous too :-)

Also there is:
" * Guaranteed reservations can be cancelled without any charge untill
the 1st of April 2007."

Should that be 1st of June?

Thanks,
Kit


2007/5/8, Aiste Kesminaite <aiste at pov.lt>:
> Hi,
>
> If you want to book the conference hotel you need a form that will be
> posted on EP website.
>
> The registration form for the hotel needs to be emailed or faxed to the
> hotel (contact info is given on the form).
>
> Unfortunatelly registering online you won't get the dicount.
> Also the hotel asked for a deadline to be set for registration -- 1st of
> June.
>
> Also there are good news about internet connection -- it
> can be improved, at the moment they have a 2 mbit connection and I am
> waiting for information on how much can this be increased.
>
> --
> Aiste Kesminaite
> Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
> Phone: +370 6563 6462
> Email: aiste at pov.lt
> Web: www.pov.lt
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- End forwarded message -----
>
> --
> Aiste Kesminaite
> Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
> Phone: +370 6563 6462
> Email: aiste at pov.lt
> Web: www.pov.lt
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>


-- 
Kit BLAKE ? Infrae ? http://infrae.com/ + 31 10 243 7051
Hoevestraat 10 ? 3033 GC ? Rotterdam + The Netherlands
OpenPGP 0xE67AD0F2 ? Contact = http://xri.net/=kitblake

From p at penguin-p.de  Tue May 22 15:33:26 2007
From: p at penguin-p.de (Peter Kaiser)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:33:26 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Student fees
Message-ID: <200705221533.26270.p@penguin-p.de>

Hi there,
I'm planning to visit EuroPython in Vilnius and wonder which fee I have to 
pay. At the moment I'm doing my civil service which will be finished when 
EuroPython starts. So I'm stuck in a kind of gap between school, civil 
service and university (in octobre). That means I have no documents proving 
my still running education.

Are those guys like me also ment to pay the student fees? Or do I have to pay 
the full price?

Greetings from Germany
Peter Kaiser

From lac at openend.se  Tue May 22 15:43:05 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 15:43:05 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Student fees
In-Reply-To: Message from Peter Kaiser <p@penguin-p.de> of "Tue,
	22 May 2007 15:33:26 +0200." <200705221533.26270.p@penguin-p.de> 
References: <200705221533.26270.p@penguin-p.de> 
Message-ID: <200705221343.l4MDh5iW031768@theraft.openend.se>

Pay the student rate.  You only have to convince the organisers,
and I'm already convinced.

Laura

In a message of Tue, 22 May 2007 15:33:26 +0200, Peter Kaiser writes:
>Hi there,
>I'm planning to visit EuroPython in Vilnius and wonder which fee I have t
>o 
>pay. At the moment I'm doing my civil service which will be finished when
> 
>EuroPython starts. So I'm stuck in a kind of gap between school, civil 
>service and university (in octobre). That means I have no documents provi
>ng 
>my still running education.
>
>Are those guys like me also ment to pay the student fees? Or do I have to
> pay 
>the full price?
>
>Greetings from Germany
>Peter Kaiser
>_______________________________________________
>EuroPython mailing list
>EuroPython at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From paul at boddie.org.uk  Wed May 23 00:41:55 2007
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 00:41:55 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007: Registration is Open!
Message-ID: <200705230041.55533.paul@boddie.org.uk>

Registration is now open for EuroPython 2007: the European Python and Zope 
Conference, taking place this year in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July 
to Wednesday 11th July.

Once again, we thank supporters of EuroPython for their patience, and 
encourage early registration by offering the usual generous discount on fees 
for registrations made up until 8th June. Online registration will close on 
Monday 2nd July.

More information on registration can be found here:

 * http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues/how-to-register

For more general information on the conference, please visit...

 * http://www.europython.org/

We look forward to seeing you in Vilnius!

From cl2dlope at gmail.com  Wed May 23 08:24:24 2007
From: cl2dlope at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 08:24:24 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007: Registration is Open!
In-Reply-To: <200705230041.55533.paul@boddie.org.uk>
References: <200705230041.55533.paul@boddie.org.uk>
Message-ID: <4653DE18.5010303@gmail.com>

Paul Boddie said the following on 05/23/2007 12:41 AM:
> Registration is now open for EuroPython 2007: the European Python and Zope 
> Conference, taking place this year in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July 
> to Wednesday 11th July.

and we have had our first two paypal payments already :-)

Excellent work everybody!

/dario

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From chris.arndt at web.de  Wed May 23 13:09:56 2007
From: chris.arndt at web.de (Christopher Arndt)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 13:09:56 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 site missing information about
	conference venue
Message-ID: <46542104.2020504@web.de>

Hi EuroPython organizers,

when I looked at the EuroPython 2007 site today, I noticed that is very
hard to find out where the conference actually takes place. It says
Vilnius, Lithuania everywhere, but the actual venue, the Reval Hotel
Lietuva, is only mentioned hidden away on the page "EuroPython special
accommodation". I'm not even sure that the phrase "which is the
conference hotel" means that this is where the talks and session take
place!?

The venue should to be mentioned clearly on the home page and in the
Location section! How do you expect people to book accommodation if they
don't even know, where they need to go for the conference? If the venue
is not known at this time, this should be stated cleraly as well, so
people know what to expect.

There is also no information about the conference venue on the
EuroPython wiki. Incidentally, the existence of the wiki is only
mentioned on the registration page on the main web page. There sould be
a link to the wiki in the top menu of the web page.

Kind regards,

Christopher Arndt
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From micahel at gmail.com  Wed May 23 13:22:30 2007
From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 12:22:30 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 site missing information about
	conference venue
In-Reply-To: <46542104.2020504@web.de>
References: <46542104.2020504@web.de>
Message-ID: <aa0dfd860705230422n1fd27f3cubae3c6ea029f17fa@mail.gmail.com>

On 23/05/07, Christopher Arndt <chris.arndt at web.de> wrote:
> Hi EuroPython organizers,
>
> when I looked at the EuroPython 2007 site today, I noticed that is very
> hard to find out where the conference actually takes place. It says
> Vilnius, Lithuania everywhere, but the actual venue, the Reval Hotel
> Lietuva, is only mentioned hidden away on the page "EuroPython special
> accommodation". I'm not even sure that the phrase "which is the
> conference hotel" means that this is where the talks and session take
> place!?

Oops.  Yes, the Reval Hotel Lietuva is where everything is happening.

> There is also no information about the conference venue on the
> EuroPython wiki. Incidentally, the existence of the wiki is only
> mentioned on the registration page on the main web page. There sould be
> a link to the wiki in the top menu of the web page.

I'm not sure quite where you mean... this year the wiki has mostly
been used by the organisers to coordinate things, it's not really
intended for "end users".

Cheers,
mwh

From chris.arndt at web.de  Wed May 23 14:37:44 2007
From: chris.arndt at web.de (Christopher Arndt)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 14:37:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 site missing information about
 conference venue
In-Reply-To: <aa0dfd860705230422n1fd27f3cubae3c6ea029f17fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <46542104.2020504@web.de>
	<aa0dfd860705230422n1fd27f3cubae3c6ea029f17fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46543598.1080205@web.de>

Michael Hudson schrieb:
>> There is also no information about the conference venue on the
>> EuroPython wiki. Incidentally, the existence of the wiki is only
>> mentioned on the registration page on the main web page. There sould be
>> a link to the wiki in the top menu of the web page.
> 
> I'm not sure quite where you mean... this year the wiki has mostly
> been used by the organisers to coordinate things, it's not really
> intended for "end users".

Let me quote from the registration page:

"Once you are registered, you might like to take a look at the
EuroPython Wiki, where informal preparations for the conference are
being made. Here, you can add details about yourself, ask or answer
general questions about the conference, travel, tourism or almost
anything related to the event, and add details of your experiences once
the conference has begun."

So, I think, the wiki might be (or become) useful for all conference
attendants, not just the organizers.

Chris

From regebro at gmail.com  Wed May 23 15:23:58 2007
From: regebro at gmail.com (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Wed, 23 May 2007 15:23:58 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007 site missing information about
	conference venue
In-Reply-To: <46542104.2020504@web.de>
References: <46542104.2020504@web.de>
Message-ID: <319e029f0705230623h42c57f7dt1ac2e626abe00105@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/23/07, Christopher Arndt <chris.arndt at web.de> wrote:
> How do you expect people to book accommodation if they
> don't even know, where they need to go for the conference?

Well, that's easy, because you click on "Where to stay". That part I
found very easy.

Otherwise you are of course completely correct.

-- 
Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting.
http://www.colliberty.com/
+33 661 58 14 64

From eiwot23 at gmail.com  Thu May 24 04:47:11 2007
From: eiwot23 at gmail.com (eiwot23 eiwot23)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 09:47:11 +0700
Subject: [EuroPython] New Python knowledge blog
Message-ID: <2d8f06a0705231947y781f8f55l2a341108e8110efd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

    I have created new blog for Python knowledge at
http://pyarticles.blogspot.com .Let's check it out

Cheers
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From sarabjeetgahir at gmail.com  Thu May 24 11:47:40 2007
From: sarabjeetgahir at gmail.com (Rajinder Singh)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 15:17:40 +0530
Subject: [EuroPython] Fwd: Participation in the EuroPython 2007
In-Reply-To: <3aa326190705230049i4fffa152i9ecc7bb7e50c3dd2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3aa326190705230049i4fffa152i9ecc7bb7e50c3dd2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3aa326190705240247n1e81ad53m6d80eace32e21c69@mail.gmail.com>

Ref No: LITH/07
                       Dated: 24-05-07



Kind attention, the Organizer

EuroPython 2007

Vilnius, Lithuania

E-mail: europython at python.org





*Sub: Participation in the EuroPython 2007 *

* *

Respected Sir/Madam,



With reference to the *EuroPython 2007, this is going to be held in **
Vilnius* *, **Lithuania** from 09-11 July, 2007.* * *This Conference is very
useful for us because our Institute is also related to this field and
researches over this matter as well takes part in this type of conference
world-wide for Institute development and exchanges the views with others. We
wouldn't like to submit any Paper but would like to Participate in this
conference as a listener.



So please send us the confirmation and procedure of participation so that we
can take part in this Conference on time.



Please do the needful and confirm, your early action in this matter would be
highly appreciated.



With regards,

* *

*Lord Krishna Research Institute *

Plot No. 15, Chowk Suffian

Industrial Area (A)

Ludhiana-141003, India

Tel: +91 161 6524515, 4636124

Fax: +91 161 4626124

* *
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From aiste at pov.lt  Thu May 24 12:25:51 2007
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 13:25:51 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel registration form
In-Reply-To: <32a4a00c0705220314j42327ed2n3c6a8027c4194265@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20070508113259.GC11850@lucky>
	<32a4a00c0705220314j42327ed2n3c6a8027c4194265@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070524102528.GA30408@lucky>

Hello Kit,

> On the registration form (Excel sheet) for Hotel Lietuva is the following 
> text:
> 
> "In case of a no-show or cancellation we will charge for the whole
> period reservation was made for."
> 
> That makes me nervous. If that's the case we won't reserve until the
> last minute. That makes me nervous too :-)

I remember talking to the hotel people about this and they specifically
mentioned cancelling on the day or not notifiying at all about not
arriving.
I will find out the exact cancellation policy. (it should be the same as
their general policy that is on their website  i think)

> Also there is:
> " * Guaranteed reservations can be cancelled without any charge untill
> the 1st of April 2007."
> 
> Should that be 1st of June?

Possibly even later than this.

-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt

From lac at openend.se  Thu May 24 16:00:09 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 16:00:09 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Fwd: Participation in the EuroPython 2007
In-Reply-To: Message from "Rajinder Singh" <sarabjeetgahir@gmail.com> of "Thu,
	24 May 2007 15:17:40 +0530."
	<3aa326190705240247n1e81ad53m6d80eace32e21c69@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <3aa326190705230049i4fffa152i9ecc7bb7e50c3dd2@mail.gmail.com>
	<3aa326190705240247n1e81ad53m6d80eace32e21c69@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200705241400.l4OE09gj014666@theraft.openend.se>


This message is to confirm that Europython conference is being held
July 9-11 in Vilnius, Lithuania.  To register for the conference please
go to http://www.europython.org/ and click on REGISTRATION (in the
top left corner) and then click on How to Register.  Since you are not
giving a talk, are not a student, but it is before June 8: you need to
pay the 'Early Others' rate, of 100 Euros.  Payment details on the 
page.

Looking forward to meeting you at Europython,
Laura Creighton  for all the conference organisers.


In a message of Thu, 24 May 2007 15:17:40 +0530, "Rajinder Singh" writes:
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>
>Kind attention, the Organizer
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>
>E-mail: europython at python.org
>
>
>
>
>
>*Sub: Participation in the EuroPython 2007 *
>
>* *
>
>Respected Sir/Madam,
>
>
>
>With reference to the *EuroPython 2007, this is going to be held in **
>Vilnius* *, **Lithuania** from 09-11 July, 2007.* * *This Conference is v
>ery
>useful for us because our Institute is also related to this field and
>researches over this matter as well takes part in this type of conference
>world-wide for Institute development and exchanges the views with others.
> We
>wouldn't like to submit any Paper but would like to Participate in this
>conference as a listener.
>
>
>
>So please send us the confirmation and procedure of participation so that
> we
>can take part in this Conference on time.
>
>
>
>Please do the needful and confirm, your early action in this matter would
> be
>highly appreciated.
>
>
>
>With regards,
>
>* *
>
>*Lord Krishna Research Institute *
>
>Plot No. 15, Chowk Suffian
>
>Industrial Area (A)
>
>Ludhiana-141003, India
>
>Tel: +91 161 6524515, 4636124
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>Fax: +91 161 4626124
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From lac at openend.se  Thu May 24 22:29:35 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Thu, 24 May 2007 22:29:35 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Joachim Schmidt .. anybody know his new email address?
Message-ID: <200705242029.l4OKTZWR021351@theraft.openend.se>

or have his phone number?

Laura

From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr  Fri May 25 19:12:17 2007
From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 19:12:17 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] sorting talk proposals in indico
Message-ID: <20070525171217.GF18178@crater.logilab.fr>

Hello,

Since today is the deadline, I suppose it is the right time to start
sorting out the talk proposals. I found my login/passwd used last year
with the indico.cern.ch app, but I have trouble finding out where I am
supposed to get the list of proposals to comment. Any hint ?

http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=13919 does not seem
to have that kind of link.

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances  

From micahel at gmail.com  Fri May 25 19:40:45 2007
From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 18:40:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] sorting talk proposals in indico
In-Reply-To: <20070525171217.GF18178@crater.logilab.fr>
References: <20070525171217.GF18178@crater.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <aa0dfd860705251040i35b023f9i7cfdc14aa1fcc5c5@mail.gmail.com>

On 25/05/07, Nicolas Chauvat <nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Since today is the deadline, I suppose it is the right time to start
> sorting out the talk proposals. I found my login/passwd used last year
> with the indico.cern.ch app, but I have trouble finding out where I am
> supposed to get the list of proposals to comment. Any hint ?
>
> http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=13919 does not seem
> to have that kind of link.

I've added you as a manager, so you should be able to find such a page now.

Cheers,
mwh

From nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr  Fri May 25 22:20:14 2007
From: nicolas.chauvat at logilab.fr (Nicolas Chauvat)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 22:20:14 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] not that many talk proposals
Message-ID: <20070525202014.GI18178@crater.logilab.fr>

Hi,

I am concerned that we do not have many talk proposals thus far. Would
someone remember how many we had to chose from last year ? I would say
around 150, am I right ?

-- 
Nicolas Chauvat

logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de connaissances  

From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch  Fri May 25 22:28:18 2007
From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 22:28:18 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] not that many talk proposals
In-Reply-To: <20070525202014.GI18178@crater.logilab.fr>
References: <20070525202014.GI18178@crater.logilab.fr>
Message-ID: <BBDC2204-E9CB-4A6A-AE52-2BD7C9BC0F11@cern.ch>

Hi Nicolas,

last year we had 112 submissions. And almost all were accepted. For  
this year we have only 62 so far...

Cheers
     Benedikt

On May 25, 2007, at 10:20 PM, Nicolas Chauvat wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I am concerned that we do not have many talk proposals thus far. Would
> someone remember how many we had to chose from last year ? I would say
> around 150, am I right ?
>
> -- 
> Nicolas Chauvat
>
> logilab.fr - services en informatique avanc?e et gestion de  
> connaissances
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython


From bea at changemaker.nu  Mon May 28 10:25:06 2007
From: bea at changemaker.nu (=?windows-1252?Q?Beatrice_D=FCring?=)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 10:25:06 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] More talks/Agile activities?
Message-ID: <465A91E2.8000508@changemaker.nu>

Hi there

Even though I have not been able to participate in the last couple of EP 
meetings I have been chasing
around the Agile community for people to invite (as keynotes and/or 
other speakers). Many people
are busy though because the two main Agile conferences are also in 
June/July.

I have though been able to get Arlo Belshee interested in visiting us, 
he is very active and renowned
"hands-on" Agile person as well as being a Python (py.test ;-) user ;-) 
We met last year and started talking about
what the two communities could learn from each other (Python 
OSS/Agile).....He is now interested in joining us in Vilnius and
is offering the following ideas:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm certainly interested.

How much agile experience do the Europython attendees have? I'd be happy to
talk about Promiscuous Pairing, although I gave a talk on that topic two
years ago at Agile 2005. It's also an intermediate-level topic. So the talk
would be less interesting to those who may have seen it before, or for those
who are not yet ready for it.

That said, It's a great topic, and I'd be happy to talk on it.

I'd be happy to do a "what we should steal from each other" between Python /
OSS and Agile / Commercial dev. I am not the world's foremost expert in this
field, but I've got some insights that I'd love to share.

Also, over the next few days, I'll reflect on my recent experience and give
you a list of other talk titles that you may find interesting. I'll get you
that list by Tuesday morning. I'm happy to give any number of talks - if I'm
not talking in a room, I'll be talking with people in the halls or doing
Open Space, Code Dojo, and Lightning Talks.

I had considered a running couple of activities for Agile 2007, but didn?t
have the time last winter to put them together. Would there be interest at
Europython for "Exercises in Agile"? I'll put together a list while I'm
thinking on talk ideas. If you're interested, I'll send them along on
Tuesday.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

So question is - are we interested? Not as a keynote but offering agile 
hands-on talks and activities to the conference ?

I would like to have his trip and accommodation reimbursed for his 
participation if so - is this possible?

And regarding Nicolas question about amount of talks - are there other 
cross-community people we could invite
and have them talk/open space activities as well? Other language 
communities and core people of interest
to Python users? And maybe this is a more hands-on value than just 
having keynotes (although they attract people)....

Cheers

Bea

From thomas at fluendo.com  Mon May 28 18:23:51 2007
From: thomas at fluendo.com (Thomas Vander Stichele)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 18:23:51 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007
Message-ID: <1180369431.19850.24.camel@level.fluendo.lan>

Hi,

I have tried a few times over the last week to submit my proposal after
noticing the deadline was extended.  I'm not sure if it's due to
registering late on the CERN site (which is more confusing than I
expected), but I was unable to log in and submit a talk over the past
few days.  And today it seems the submission through the website is now
closed.

If it's already too late, and the rules are strict on this, then too
bad.  But I would still like to try and submit my talk as I feel it
would fit well in the conference.

I'm attaching the abstract to this mail.

I think it could fit in the "Web related technologies" or "Business and
Applications" track, though bear in mind the talk is fairly
developer-centered and the abstract would need adapting to reflect this.

Hoping for a positive answer,

Thomas

From haraldarminmassa at gmail.com  Mon May 28 20:47:27 2007
From: haraldarminmassa at gmail.com (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 20:47:27 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007
In-Reply-To: <1180369431.19850.24.camel@level.fluendo.lan>
References: <1180369431.19850.24.camel@level.fluendo.lan>
Message-ID: <7be3f35d0705281147y4dcd8b4ev2e41c61acdc73155@mail.gmail.com>

Thomas,

there is no abstract attached to your email.

I guess the Mailinglist-Software strips it. Please send your abstract again
just copied into an email, so we can help you.

Best wishes,

Harald

On 5/28/07, Thomas Vander Stichele <thomas at fluendo.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have tried a few times over the last week to submit my proposal after
> noticing the deadline was extended.  I'm not sure if it's due to
> registering late on the CERN site (which is more confusing than I
> expected), but I was unable to log in and submit a talk over the past
> few days.  And today it seems the submission through the website is now
> closed.
>
> If it's already too late, and the rules are strict on this, then too
> bad.  But I would still like to try and submit my talk as I feel it
> would fit well in the conference.
>
> I'm attaching the abstract to this mail.
>
> I think it could fit in the "Web related technologies" or "Business and
> Applications" track, though bear in mind the talk is fairly
> developer-centered and the abstract would need adapting to reflect this.
>
> Hoping for a positive answer,
>
> Thomas
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>


-- 
GHUM Harald Massa
persuadere et programmare
Harald Armin Massa
Reinsburgstra?e 202b
70197 Stuttgart
0173/9409607
fx 01212-5-13695179
-
EuroPython 2007 will take place in Vilnius, Lithuania from Monday 9th July
to Wednesday 11th July. See you there!
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From micahel at gmail.com  Mon May 28 20:59:09 2007
From: micahel at gmail.com (Michael Hudson)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 19:59:09 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007
In-Reply-To: <7be3f35d0705281147y4dcd8b4ev2e41c61acdc73155@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1180369431.19850.24.camel@level.fluendo.lan>
	<7be3f35d0705281147y4dcd8b4ev2e41c61acdc73155@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <aa0dfd860705281159u81fce72x36e6014e8346930d@mail.gmail.com>

On 28/05/07, Harald Armin Massa <haraldarminmassa at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thomas,
>
> there is no abstract attached to your email.
>
> I guess the Mailinglist-Software strips it. Please send your abstract again
> just copied into an email, so we can help you.

I talked to him on IRC, it's all sorted now and the talk is in the system.

Cheers,
mwh

From lac at openend.se  Mon May 28 21:57:12 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2007 21:57:12 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007
In-Reply-To: Message from Thomas Vander Stichele <thomas@fluendo.com> of "Mon,
	28 May 2007 18:23:51 +0200."
	<1180369431.19850.24.camel@level.fluendo.lan> 
References: <1180369431.19850.24.camel@level.fluendo.lan> 
Message-ID: <200705281957.l4SJvCWo025057@theraft.openend.se>


I didn't find any attatchment.    Try mailing it to program at europython.org

Laura

In a message of Mon, 28 May 2007 18:23:51 +0200, Thomas Vander Stichele writes:
>Hi,
>
>I have tried a few times over the last week to submit my proposal after
>noticing the deadline was extended.  I'm not sure if it's due to
>registering late on the CERN site (which is more confusing than I
>expected), but I was unable to log in and submit a talk over the past
>few days.  And today it seems the submission through the website is now
>closed.
>
>If it's already too late, and the rules are strict on this, then too
>bad.  But I would still like to try and submit my talk as I feel it
>would fit well in the conference.
>
>I'm attaching the abstract to this mail.
>
>I think it could fit in the "Web related technologies" or "Business and
>Applications" track, though bear in mind the talk is fairly
>developer-centered and the abstract would need adapting to reflect this.
>
>Hoping for a positive answer,
>
>Thomas
>_______________________________________________
>EuroPython mailing list
>EuroPython at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From chefer at tuks.co.za  Tue May 29 08:34:55 2007
From: chefer at tuks.co.za (Charles Hefer)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 08:34:55 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Letter of invitation to attend europython 2007
Message-ID: <492024630705282334l383c0f85p13b089d9cffaef26@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
The visa requirements for Lithuania for South African citizens
requires a letter of invitation to attend the conference. Can you
please supply me with such a letter for the following two registrants:

Registrant id: 38
Family name: Hefer
First name: Charles

and

Registrant id: 40
Family name: De Beer
First name: Tjaart

Thank you very much!

regards

-- 

Charles Hefer

Bioinformatics and Computational Biology Unit
Room 3-3
FABI Square/Bioinformatics building
University of Pretoria
Lynwood Rd
Pretoria
South Africa
0001

Tel  :   +27 12 420 5802
Fax :   +27 12 420 5800

From lac at openend.se  Tue May 29 09:46:38 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 09:46:38 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Letter of invitation to attend europython 2007
In-Reply-To: Message from "Charles Hefer" <chefer@tuks.co.za> of "Tue,
	29 May 2007 08:34:55 +0200."
	<492024630705282334l383c0f85p13b089d9cffaef26@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <492024630705282334l383c0f85p13b089d9cffaef26@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200705290746.l4T7kcVY024099@theraft.openend.se>

(These are Andrew Dalke's students in South Africa.)
I will send you a letter of invitation asap.  You may have more
experience receiving letters of invitation than I have in writing
them.  I assume they need my signature, but do I need to get
them notarised or otherwise do anything special with them?
Have you submitted a talk?  

Laura Creighton

In a message of Tue, 29 May 2007 08:34:55 +0200, "Charles Hefer" writes:
>Hi
>The visa requirements for Lithuania for South African citizens
>requires a letter of invitation to attend the conference. Can you
>please supply me with such a letter for the following two registrants:
>
>Registrant id: 38
>Family name: Hefer
>First name: Charles
>
>and
>
>Registrant id: 40
>Family name: De Beer
>First name: Tjaart
>
>Thank you very much!
>
>regards
>
>-- 
>
>Charles Hefer
>
>Bioinformatics and Computational Biology Unit
>Room 3-3
>FABI Square/Bioinformatics building
>University of Pretoria
>Lynwood Rd
>Pretoria
>South Africa
>0001
>
>Tel  :   +27 12 420 5802
>Fax :   +27 12 420 5800
>_______________________________________________
>EuroPython mailing list
>EuroPython at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From jakacki at exoweb.net  Tue May 29 10:16:07 2007
From: jakacki at exoweb.net (Grzegorz Jakacki)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 16:16:07 +0800
Subject: [EuroPython] New registrant in 'EuroPython 2007': JAKACKI,
	Grzegorz
In-Reply-To: <20070529055644.B86FE329BB@sunuds95.cern.ch>
References: <20070529055644.B86FE329BB@sunuds95.cern.ch>
Message-ID: <465BE147.4030102@exoweb.net>

Hello,

I mistakenly registered an extra guest for conference dinner; could you 
please cancel the conference dinner guest reservation (keeping just the 
reservation for me)?

Thanks
GJ


europython at python.org wrote:
>              Congratulations, your registration was successful. See your information below:
>              
>                       
>              Registrant Id: 39
>              Title: 
>              Family Name: Jakacki
>              First Name: Grzegorz
>              Position: 
>              Institution: Exoweb
>              Address: 
>              City: Beijing
>              Country: CN
>              Phone: 008613911925514
>              Fax: 
>              Email: jakacki at exoweb.net
>              Personal Homepage: www.dziupla.net/gj/cv
>              Reason for participation: I use Python at work.    
>                     
>              
>              Accommodation:
>                         - Arrival date: 08 July 2007
>                         - Departure date: 12 July 2007
>                         - Accommodation type: I will arrange my own accommodation
>                     
>              
>              Special requirements:
> 			- Other special requirements: 
> 			
>              Registrant information:
> 			- Rate: Early
> 			
>              Social events:
> 			- Conference dinner (registrant): yes
> 			- Conference dinner (number of guests) - price per person: 1
> 			- Dietary requirements: No special requirements
> 			- Dietary requirements - additional information: 
> 			
>              
>              
>                       
> 


-- 
Grzegorz Jakacki, Senior Software Eng.
greg(at)exoweb.net, +86-139-11925514

From steve at canonical.com  Tue May 29 11:12:04 2007
From: steve at canonical.com (Steve Alexander)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 11:12:04 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Interested in giving a keynote at Europython 2007
	in Vilnius?
In-Reply-To: <1180395041.2128.98.camel@breeze2.lan>
References: <45EF02A0.2050109@canonical.com>	
	<1173831624.5161.77.camel@breeze2>
	<461F8E70.9050705@canonical.com>	
	<1177938830.6429.221.camel@breeze2>
	<4637560B.2040803@canonical.com>
	<1180395041.2128.98.camel@breeze2.lan>
Message-ID: <465BEE64.1030405@canonical.com>

Hi David,

> Yes, I can still do it but only on the first day or possibly on the
> morning of the second (11th).

You mean the 10th here, right?


> I would fly in on the 8th and out on the
> 10th (to Paris).
>
> If you can still do it please be faster than me since I need to book the
> flights/trains (for paris home) ASAP.

I just checked with the other organisers, and this is all fine.  We can
arrange something that works with the dates and times.

We have two keynote speakers arranged already.  One of them is Guido van
Rossum, and while his speech is important, it always has the same
content and perspective on the recent past and future of Python
development.  So this year, we'd like to have two other perspectives as
keynotes at the conference.

Welcome to EuroPython as a keynote speaker!

-- 
Steve Alexander


From david at mysql.com  Tue May 29 11:26:34 2007
From: david at mysql.com (David Axmark)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 10:26:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Interested in giving a keynote at Europython 2007
	in Vilnius?
In-Reply-To: <465BEE64.1030405@canonical.com>
References: <45EF02A0.2050109@canonical.com>
	<1173831624.5161.77.camel@breeze2>  <461F8E70.9050705@canonical.com>
	<1177938830.6429.221.camel@breeze2>  <4637560B.2040803@canonical.com>
	<1180395041.2128.98.camel@breeze2.lan> <465BEE64.1030405@canonical.com>
Message-ID: <1180430794.2128.139.camel@breeze2.lan>

On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 11:12 +0200, Steve Alexander wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> > Yes, I can still do it but only on the first day or possibly on the
> > morning of the second (11th).
> 
> You mean the 10th here, right?

Yes :-)

> > I would fly in on the 8th and out on the
> > 10th (to Paris).
> >
> > If you can still do it please be faster than me since I need to book the
> > flights/trains (for paris home) ASAP.
> 
> I just checked with the other organisers, and this is all fine.  We can
> arrange something that works with the dates and times.

Ok, I will book flights ASAP when.

> We have two keynote speakers arranged already.  One of them is Guido van
> Rossum, and while his speech is important, it always has the same
> content and perspective on the recent past and future of Python
> development.  So this year, we'd like to have two other perspectives as
> keynotes at the conference.
> 
> Welcome to EuroPython as a keynote speaker!

Thanks!

/David
PS: As you can see I can answer email fast sometimes...



From lac at openend.se  Tue May 29 15:44:20 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:44:20 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] problem using Indico
Message-ID: <200705291344.l4TDiKdb025784@theraft.openend.se>

When I log in, I get this screen:
The modification of this event has been restricted by its owner and you are not authorised to use it.

    * You can go back to the precedent page by using the "Back" button of your browser.
    * You can try to log in with another user (use the "logout" button above) 

	



CERN | Powered by CERN Indico 0.94.0.20070523 | indico-support at cern.ch | HELP

-----------

can somebody who understands what I am not authorised to do please fix me?
Or alternatively, if I am being created in the wrong place, fix me so 
that I show up in the correct area?  Or need I talk to Indico?

Laura

From benedikt.hegner at cern.ch  Tue May 29 15:49:46 2007
From: benedikt.hegner at cern.ch (Benedikt Hegner)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:49:46 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] problem using Indico
In-Reply-To: <200705291344.l4TDiKdb025784@theraft.openend.se>
References: <200705291344.l4TDiKdb025784@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <CE1314E9-A781-4AD6-BFCC-AFA2CA2D51CC@cern.ch>

Hi Laura,

try again. I think you had the wrong permissions.

Cheers,
     Benedikt

On May 29, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Laura Creighton wrote:

> When I log in, I get this screen:
> The modification of this event has been restricted by its owner and  
> you are not authorised to use it.
>
>     * You can go back to the precedent page by using the "Back"  
> button of your browser.
>     * You can try to log in with another user (use the "logout"  
> button above)
>
> 	
>
>
>
> CERN | Powered by CERN Indico 0.94.0.20070523 | indico- 
> support at cern.ch | HELP
>
> -----------
>
> can somebody who understands what I am not authorised to do please  
> fix me?
> Or alternatively, if I am being created in the wrong place, fix me so
> that I show up in the correct area?  Or need I talk to Indico?
>
> Laura
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython


From lac at openend.se  Tue May 29 15:51:38 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 15:51:38 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] problem using Indico
In-Reply-To: Message from Benedikt Hegner <benedikt.hegner@cern.ch> of "Tue,
	29 May 2007 15:49:46 +0200."
	<CE1314E9-A781-4AD6-BFCC-AFA2CA2D51CC@cern.ch> 
References: <200705291344.l4TDiKdb025784@theraft.openend.se>
	<CE1314E9-A781-4AD6-BFCC-AFA2CA2D51CC@cern.ch> 
Message-ID: <200705291351.l4TDpcXS027452@theraft.openend.se>

Works great now.  Thanks for the speedy fix, Benedikt!

Laura

In a message of Tue, 29 May 2007 15:49:46 +0200, Benedikt Hegner writes:
>Hi Laura,
>
>try again. I think you had the wrong permissions.
>
>Cheers,
>     Benedikt
>
>On May 29, 2007, at 3:44 PM, Laura Creighton wrote:
>
>> When I log in, I get this screen:
>> The modification of this event has been restricted by its owner and  
>> you are not authorised to use it.
>>
>>     * You can go back to the precedent page by using the "Back"  
>> button of your browser.
>>     * You can try to log in with another user (use the "logout"  
>> button above)
>>
>> 	
>>
>>
>>
>> CERN | Powered by CERN Indico 0.94.0.20070523 | indico- 
>> support at cern.ch | HELP
>>
>> -----------
>>
>> can somebody who understands what I am not authorised to do please  
>> fix me?
>> Or alternatively, if I am being created in the wrong place, fix me so
>> that I show up in the correct area?  Or need I talk to Indico?
>>
>> Laura
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>_______________________________________________
>EuroPython mailing list
>EuroPython at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From hawkerm at mikeware.com  Wed May 30 01:33:55 2007
From: hawkerm at mikeware.com (Michael A. Hawker)
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 19:33:55 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] Paper Submission Error
Message-ID: <465CB863.4060004@mikeware.com>

To whomever it may concern,

My name is Michael Hawker.  I'm a student at McGill University.  The 
other week I submitted a paper abstract entitled "Pythonic Interfaces" 
(abstract id #44).

As I was wondering about the status of my paper proposal, I noticed the 
deadline had been extended.  I also found the section outside of 
proposals on referred papers, and upon closer inspection noticed the 
clause on having to submit them specifically as "referred papers."  As 
my paper is on a technically innovative concept, this is where my 
abstract should belong as it is not just a leisurely discussion.  I hope 
it is not too late to rectify my error, and I hope that at this busy 
time of year you can forgive such a simple mistake.

Thank you for your time.  I look forward to hearing from you.

Sincerely,
Michael A. Hawker

From lac at openend.se  Wed May 30 10:01:37 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:01:37 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Paper Submission Error
In-Reply-To: Message from "Michael A. Hawker" <hawkerm@mikeware.com> 
	of "Tue, 29 May 2007 19:33:55 EDT." <465CB863.4060004@mikeware.com> 
References: <465CB863.4060004@mikeware.com> 
Message-ID: <200705300801.l4U81b3k031150@theraft.openend.se>

It took me one click to change your paper's classification.  All fixed,
all forgiven.

Laura Creighton

In a message of Tue, 29 May 2007 19:33:55 EDT, "Michael A. Hawker" writes:
>To whomever it may concern,
>
>My name is Michael Hawker.  I'm a student at McGill University.  The 
>other week I submitted a paper abstract entitled "Pythonic Interfaces" 
>(abstract id #44).
>
>As I was wondering about the status of my paper proposal, I noticed the 
>deadline had been extended.  I also found the section outside of 
>proposals on referred papers, and upon closer inspection noticed the 
>clause on having to submit them specifically as "referred papers."  As 
>my paper is on a technically innovative concept, this is where my 
>abstract should belong as it is not just a leisurely discussion.  I hope 
>it is not too late to rectify my error, and I hope that at this busy 
>time of year you can forgive such a simple mistake.
>
>Thank you for your time.  I look forward to hearing from you.
>
>Sincerely,
>Michael A. Hawker
>_______________________________________________
>EuroPython mailing list
>EuroPython at python.org
>http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From je at revelation-soft.de  Wed May 30 18:00:41 2007
From: je at revelation-soft.de (Johannes Ernesti)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:00:41 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007,
	Payment for two Participants via PayPal
Message-ID: <200705301800.41144.je@revelation-soft.de>

Hello,

my name is Johannes Ernesti and I'm planning to visit EuroPython this year 
together with a friend. We have completed the registration-process and now 
want to pay via PayPal, but he does not have PayPal-account. Is it possible 
to pay for both from the same account by specifying the two registration-ids?

Thank you for your answer.

Regards
Johannes Ernesti

PS: His name is Peter Kaiser. His RID is 51 and mine is 52.

From lac at openend.se  Wed May 30 18:59:25 2007
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 18:59:25 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] can somebody change
	http://www.europython.org/sections/registration_issues
Message-ID: <200705301659.l4UGxPYq032375@theraft.openend.se>

to say that registration is open, instead of 'will open soon'.
A direct link to 'register me now' would be helpful for that page as
well, for people who want to skip the information about rates and the
like and just do it.

Laura

From cl2dlope at gmail.com  Wed May 30 22:01:51 2007
From: cl2dlope at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 22:01:51 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007,
 Payment for two Participants via PayPal
In-Reply-To: <200705301800.41144.je@revelation-soft.de>
References: <200705301800.41144.je@revelation-soft.de>
Message-ID: <465DD82F.4050402@gmail.com>

Johannes Ernesti said the following on 05/30/2007 06:00 PM:
> Hello,
> 
> my name is Johannes Ernesti and I'm planning to visit EuroPython this year 
> together with a friend. We have completed the registration-process and now 
> want to pay via PayPal, but he does not have PayPal-account. Is it possible 
> to pay for both from the same account by specifying the two registration-ids?
> 

Hello,

yes it is perfectly possible specifying the registratiosn id's in question.

Sincerely,

/dario

-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
Lyrics applied to programming & application design:
"emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley


From david at mysql.com  Wed May 30 23:42:27 2007
From: david at mysql.com (David Axmark)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 22:42:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Interested in giving a keynote at Europython 2007
	in Vilnius?
In-Reply-To: <465BEE64.1030405@canonical.com>
References: <45EF02A0.2050109@canonical.com>
	<1173831624.5161.77.camel@breeze2>  <461F8E70.9050705@canonical.com>
	<1177938830.6429.221.camel@breeze2>  <4637560B.2040803@canonical.com>
	<1180395041.2128.98.camel@breeze2.lan> <465BEE64.1030405@canonical.com>
Message-ID: <1180561347.23682.27.camel@breeze2>

On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 11:12 +0200, Steve Alexander wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> > Yes, I can still do it but only on the first day or possibly on the
> > morning of the second (11th).
> 
> You mean the 10th here, right?

Yes, I did mean that when I wrote it. But now I actually manged to move
my other talk so I can talk during the 11th to if needed.

I will now fly in on the 8th or 9th depending on where you schedule my
talk(s). And fly out on the morning of the 12th.

If you want I could do a normal session talk on optimizing MySQL also.
Mostly about how to get your indexes fast but a bit of other stuff to.

If you can fit that I will use some MySQL internal Python resources to
tune the talk for a Python audience.

...

> I just checked with the other organisers, and this is all fine.  We can
> arrange something that works with the dates and times.
> 
> We have two keynote speakers arranged already.  One of them is Guido van
> Rossum, and while his speech is important, it always has the same
> content and perspective on the recent past and future of Python
> development. 

Sounds just like my State of MySQL talks I have done many times. Very
interesting if you hear it for the first time and is a heavy user. But a
bit boring the 10th time :-)

>  So this year, we'd like to have two other perspectives as
> keynotes at the conference.

Sounds good.

> Welcome to EuroPython as a keynote speaker!

Thanks!

I hope to be able to learn a bit more about Python. Both Python and Ruby
and been on my to learn list for years. Usually the language itself is
easy to learn (when you know a couple already) but the libraries and
runtime tends to take quite a while to learn.

/David



From fabio.pliger at siavr.it  Thu May 31 00:26:51 2007
From: fabio.pliger at siavr.it (fabio.pliger)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 00:26:51 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation
Message-ID: <WorldClient-F200705310026.AA26510514@siavr.it>

Hi, i was looking for the EP hote reservation and noticed that there's no 
difference between booking from the hotel site or EP site. The rate from the 
hotel site is 79 euros (for early bookers rate) and from the europython.org 
is 80?. It also seems that the early rate from hotel site includes the 
usage of the fitness center and the sauna, wich is said to be 
complementary... I've got it right or am i wrong?
Also, in the registration form at the EP site it's written that registration 
form is to "EURO-PYTHON" july 9-13 2007. Is it a fixed period or can it, 
chaged?( for instance from 9 to 12..)
Anyway, is there any real difference from booking from EP site or from the 
hotel site?
(sorry to bother with all those questions.. :)  )
thanks..
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From regebro at gmail.com  Thu May 31 08:08:13 2007
From: regebro at gmail.com (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 08:08:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation
In-Reply-To: <WorldClient-F200705310026.AA26510514@siavr.it>
References: <WorldClient-F200705310026.AA26510514@siavr.it>
Message-ID: <319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/31/07, fabio.pliger <fabio.pliger at siavr.it> wrote:
> Hi, i was looking for the EP hote reservation and noticed that there's no
> difference between booking from the hotel site or EP site. The rate from the
> hotel site is 79 euros (for early bookers rate) and from the europython.org
> is 80?.

In fact. the early bookers rate for a double room today is 79 euros,
while the europython special offer (ending tomorrow) it 93 euros for a
double room. So special offer is the correct word. It is in fact more
expensive.

The standard price is evidently 100 euros per night for this period.

I think we have been <censored> by the hotel.

From aiste at pov.lt  Thu May 31 13:08:45 2007
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:08:45 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation
In-Reply-To: <319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com>
References: <WorldClient-F200705310026.AA26510514@siavr.it>
	<319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070531110845.GB3265@lucky>

> > Hi, i was looking for the EP hote reservation and noticed that there's no
> > difference between booking from the hotel site or EP site. The rate from the
> > hotel site is 79 euros (for early bookers rate) and from the europython.org
> > is 80?.

This is true, I just spoke to the hotel people. So if this 1 Euro makes
a big difference -- you can reserve the room in the normal way.

> In fact. the early bookers rate for a double room today is 79 euros,
> while the europython special offer (ending tomorrow) it 93 euros for a
> double room. So special offer is the correct word. It is in fact more
> expensive.

This is incorrect. The 79 euros price per double is only valid on
weekends, that is Fri-Sun and thus does not really work if you want to
attend the conference.
Also, the conference special offer does not imply that they have to
provide the absolute cheapest prices, they do make things more
convenient for the conference though.

Other clarification -- there is a mistake in the registration form. Kit
already asked about this.
I just doublechecked with the hotel and yes the no charge cancellation
works up the the day before the room is booked.
If you notify the hotel a day before you are due to arrive and make sure
it is before 16:00 local time -- you are fine, the cancellation does not
cost you anything.

-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt

From regebro at gmail.com  Thu May 31 13:14:59 2007
From: regebro at gmail.com (Lennart Regebro)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 13:14:59 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation
In-Reply-To: <20070531110845.GB3265@lucky>
References: <WorldClient-F200705310026.AA26510514@siavr.it>
	<319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070531110845.GB3265@lucky>
Message-ID: <319e029f0705310414g4d915fa0tb1148286bf03e2e5@mail.gmail.com>

On 5/31/07, Aiste Kesminaite <aiste at pov.lt> wrote:
> This is incorrect. The 79 euros price per double is only valid on
> weekends, that is Fri-Sun and thus does not really work if you want to
> attend the conference.

Not according to the website booking. It completely possible to book
the conference for this price, and it doesn't mention anything about
being only weekends.

Doens't matter fpr me, I've already decided on a cheaper hotel close
to the conference center, and this kind of business practice from the
conference hotel doesn't exactly make me change my mind on that issue.
-- 
Lennart Regebro: Zope and Plone consulting.
http://www.colliberty.com/
+33 661 58 14 64

From aiste at pov.lt  Thu May 31 13:19:50 2007
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:19:50 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation
In-Reply-To: <319e029f0705310414g4d915fa0tb1148286bf03e2e5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <WorldClient-F200705310026.AA26510514@siavr.it>
	<319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070531110845.GB3265@lucky>
	<319e029f0705310414g4d915fa0tb1148286bf03e2e5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20070531111950.GC3265@lucky>

> Not according to the website booking. It completely possible to book
> the conference for this price, and it doesn't mention anything about
> being only weekends.
> 
> Doens't matter fpr me, I've already decided on a cheaper hotel close
> to the conference center, and this kind of business practice from the
> conference hotel doesn't exactly make me change my mind on that issue.

I cannot verify that myself as their webbooking form for some reason does
not want to work for me, but I just called the hotel and what I wrote in
my previous email was the answer that I received.

You are free to book rooms in any hotel you want as we do not have
obligations as such to fill the conference hotel. Also talking
about cheaper -- the conference hotel is on of teh more expensive hotels
in town, thus the price. You get what you pay for.

-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt

From fabio.pliger at siavr.it  Thu May 31 14:39:06 2007
From: fabio.pliger at siavr.it (fabio.pliger)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:39:06 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation
In-Reply-To: <20070531110845.GB3265@lucky>
References: <WorldClient-F200705310026.AA26510514@siavr.it>
	<319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070531110845.GB3265@lucky>
Message-ID: <WorldClient-F200705311439.AA39060578@siavr.it>

> >This is true, I just spoke to the hotel people. So if this 1 Euro makes

> >
a big difference -- you can reserve the room in the normal way.
Oh.. of course 1 euro does not make the difference. I hope my post was not 
interpretated as  a critic because it's not. My post was only to clearify 
things as i'm about to book the hotel and was hoping to book it in the "best 
way". Also because i didn't undertand the difference between the "wellness" 
services from the 2 offers and was not able to find many other hotels near 
the conference center.
> >
This is incorrect. The 79 euros price per double is only valid on

> >
weekends, that is Fri-Sun and thus does not really work if you want to

> >
attend the conference.

> >
Also, the conference special offer does not imply that they have to

> >
provide the absolute cheapest prices, they do make things more

> >
convenient for the conference though.

>From the hotel website it's not specified ( or at least i wasn't able to 
find it! ) that the offer only for weekends. It's only specified that is for 
booking 30 days earlier..  
Anyway, i was only searching for info... 
thanks


LENNART: Is it a problem for you to pass me the name of the hotel ( directly 
to my email.. ) you booked so i can look ther too? thanks a lot...
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From darius.damalakas at dlcsprendimai.lt  Thu May 31 14:20:03 2007
From: darius.damalakas at dlcsprendimai.lt (Darius Damalakas)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 15:20:03 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2007
Message-ID: <465EBD73.4060502@dlcsprendimai.lt>

I would like to participate in Europython 2007 on behalf of my company.
For this purpose i need to get a bill, so that the company could pay for it.

What are the required steps to get that?

My Registrant ID  is	23

thank you



-- 
Su pagarba,
Darius Damalakas

Programuotojas
UAB "DLC sprendimai"
M. K. Paco 4, Vilnius
Tel.   8 5 2059343
Fax.   8 5 2059353
Mob.   8 673 48362


Company name: 	 UAB ?DLC sprendimai?
Code:            300555873
VAT code:        LT100002332112
Address:         M. K. Paco 4, Vilnius, Lithuania
Bank name:       AB bankas "Hansabankas"
Account:         LT92 7300 0100 9432 6535
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From cl2dlope at gmail.com  Thu May 31 15:17:14 2007
From: cl2dlope at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 15:17:14 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Bills for EuroPython Registration payments will be
 sent out starting next week
In-Reply-To: <465EBD73.4060502@dlcsprendimai.lt>
References: <465EBD73.4060502@dlcsprendimai.lt>
Message-ID: <465ECADA.8020802@gmail.com>

Hello,

I will start sending out invoices for all EuroPython payments starting
next week. All that have payed via Paypal or other means will receive an
invoice for use in their accounting.

Further questions about these matters may be posted on the list or
addressed directly to finance at europython.org.

/dario
for the EuroPython Society

-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
Lyrics applied to programming & application design:
"emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley


From cl2dlope at gmail.com  Thu May 31 15:30:35 2007
From: cl2dlope at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Dario_Lopez-K=E4sten?=)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 15:30:35 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] test - please ignore.
Message-ID: <465ECDFB.1050306@gmail.com>

/dario

-- 
-- -------------------------------------------------------------------
Dario Lopez-K?sten, IT Systems & Services Chalmers University of Tech.
Lyrics applied to programming & application design:
"emancipate yourself from mental slavery" - redemption song, b. marley


From maria-anna.lang at lovelysystems.com  Thu May 31 16:05:26 2007
From: maria-anna.lang at lovelysystems.com (Maria-Anna Lang)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 16:05:26 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] registration vilnius
Message-ID: <E45B480E-0FA8-4CAB-A316-EF52655A381F@lovelysystems.com>

hi!

I'd like to register 4 people for the europython conference in  
vilnius. Since yesterday I'm trying to register with the indico- 
system but it doesn't work!!!

The attendees names are:
- Jodok Batlogg
- J?rgen Kartnaller
- Bernd Dorn
- Bernd Roessl

could you please send me a confirmation?

thanks
maria-anna

--
Lovely Systems, Assistant

phone: +43 5572 908060, fax: +43 5572 908060-77
Schmelzh?tterstra?e 26a, 6850 Dornbirn, Austria




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From aiste at pov.lt  Thu May 31 17:28:04 2007
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 18:28:04 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Hotel Reservation
In-Reply-To: <WorldClient-F200705311439.AA39060578@siavr.it>
References: <WorldClient-F200705310026.AA26510514@siavr.it>
	<319e029f0705302308h58865c1dvb93de05d4ab7e348@mail.gmail.com>
	<20070531110845.GB3265@lucky>
	<WorldClient-F200705311439.AA39060578@siavr.it>
Message-ID: <20070531152803.GF3265@lucky>

> From the hotel website it's not specified ( or at least i wasn't able to 
> find it! ) that the offer only for weekends. It's only specified that is for 
> booking 30 days earlier..  

If you would look at the website now you will see it corrected -- it is
a weekend only offer.


-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt

From marco.mariani at prometeia.it  Thu May 31 19:02:19 2007
From: marco.mariani at prometeia.it (Marco Mariani)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 19:02:19 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] reval hotel booking
Message-ID: <465EFF9B.2010602@prometeia.it>

 From the Reval booking form I downloaded from the EuroPython site:

- Guaranteed reservations can be cancelled without any charge untill the 
1st of April 2007.


Now, I don't think this form was even available before that date.
I have sent a fax asking for a registration from 6/7 to 15/7, because 
I'd like to have both weekends in Vilnius, but I could find better 
prices nearby and could change my mind.

Is that date right?


Thanks


From aiste at pov.lt  Thu May 31 20:52:19 2007
From: aiste at pov.lt (Aiste Kesminaite)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:52:19 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] reval hotel booking
In-Reply-To: <465EFF9B.2010602@prometeia.it>
References: <465EFF9B.2010602@prometeia.it>
Message-ID: <20070531185218.GA13622@lucky>

Hello Marko,

> - Guaranteed reservations can be cancelled without any charge untill the 
> 1st of April 2007.
> 
> Now, I don't think this form was even available before that date.
> I have sent a fax asking for a registration from 6/7 to 15/7, because 
> I'd like to have both weekends in Vilnius, but I could find better 
> prices nearby and could change my mind.
> 
> Is that date right?

As I explained in my previous email this date is a mistake and you can
cancel your reservation without any penalty up to one day before you are
due to arrive.

-- 
Aiste Kesminaite
Managing director, Programmers of Vilnius
Phone: +370 6563 6462
Email: aiste at pov.lt
Web: www.pov.lt