From krzysztof.wilczynski at bcs.org.uk  Tue Jun  2 12:13:52 2009
From: krzysztof.wilczynski at bcs.org.uk (Krzysztof Wilczynski)
Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 11:13:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Volunteer needed for collecting EuroPython talk
	outlines and slides
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040905270922y332ae004h730a36f2c617af72@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b1f5d7040905270922y332ae004h730a36f2c617af72@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dd71a3d00906020313u1bc8e185h839c78b8d6252f90@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

[...]
> We need some more volunteers to help with EuroPython. Now in
> particular we want someone who can collect the talks together.
[...]

Did anyone volunteered already?

Regards,
KW

From reinout at vanrees.org  Thu Jun  4 19:54:12 2009
From: reinout at vanrees.org (Reinout van Rees)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 19:54:12 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] sharing hotel room
Message-ID: <2b52d5bf0906041054r5dffe67bif1ec080045ac05c2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I've registered a room with the europython registration form (at the
Etap hotel).  Question; am I free to share that 3-person room with
another person without notifying the hotel until arrival? Or should I
notify them?


Reinout

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From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun  4 23:04:20 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 22:04:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] sharing hotel room
In-Reply-To: <2b52d5bf0906041054r5dffe67bif1ec080045ac05c2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b52d5bf0906041054r5dffe67bif1ec080045ac05c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906041404g5d450628h62103b70a9284ab7@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Reinout,

2009/6/4 Reinout van Rees <reinout at vanrees.org>:
> Hi all,
>
> I've registered a room with the europython registration form (at the
> Etap hotel). ?Question; am I free to share that 3-person room with
> another person without notifying the hotel until arrival?

yes.

> Or should I
> notify them?

There is no need, but you need to arrive first!

best wishes,

John
--

From oskar at sad.it  Fri Jun  5 12:44:32 2009
From: oskar at sad.it (Stuffer Oskar)
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2009 12:44:32 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Corporate rate for 2 delegates
Message-ID: <4A28F710.1020505@sad.it>

Hallo!

My company would like to make a booking for 2 delegates for the tutorials and
the core Europython conference.
My company needs an invoice.
What's the total rate for 2 delegates when we choose the "Corporate Booking"?
Is it possible to get an invoice also choosing the "Standard Rate"?


Best regards,
Oskar Stuffer


Servizi ST S.r.L.
Bolzano
Italy

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Jun  5 15:33:45 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2009 14:33:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Corporate rate for 2 delegates
In-Reply-To: <4A28F710.1020505@sad.it>
References: <4A28F710.1020505@sad.it>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906050633o42d1ba7er810d6b4b978d782a@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Oskar,

2009/6/5 Stuffer Oskar <oskar at sad.it>:
> Hallo!
>
> My company would like to make a booking for 2 delegates for the tutorials
> and
> the core Europython conference.
> My company needs an invoice.

You will get an invoice.

> What's the total rate for 2 delegates when we choose the "Corporate
> Booking"?
> Is it possible to get an invoice also choosing the "Standard Rate"?

Yes.

But do you mean that you wish to place an order with a Purchase Order?
That is, you order with a PO, we raise an invoice, then your accounts
department pay the invoice when they feel like it?

If so, then you must pay the Corporate Rate for the first delegate and
Standard Rate for the second person.

Best wishes,

John
--

From funthyme at gmail.com  Mon Jun  8 16:03:15 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 15:03:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Giving lightning talks
In-Reply-To: <a422b72d0906080519n381f9094s769eb5ca0ed2431a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a422b72d0906080519n381f9094s769eb5ca0ed2431a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906080703n63ed4dcbx6bc9f19ec27456c8@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ram!

2009/6/8 cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com>:
> Hey John,
>
> What's the process for giving 5-minute talks? I'd like to give a couple.

You put your talk up on a board at the conference, and if you get it
in before all the slots have filled, you give it.

Simple :-)

Best wishes,

John
--

From ales.zoulek at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 10:07:46 2009
From: ales.zoulek at gmail.com (Ales Zoulek)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:07:46 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Etap Hotel
Message-ID: <bbb0d4d80906100107x14f93891yae1a1b7abc2cc131@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I've registered for the conference and Etap Hotel. I wanted to extend my
stay in the hotel (to start on Monday, not Tuesday), but the Etap Hotel
personnel seems to have a problem find my hotel booking, there's no booking
on my name. Do we have some ref. number, or something? Or is it booked
anonymously for all atendees altogether?


The only thing I have is the registration ticket e-mail.


Regards,


Ales




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From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 11:06:34 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:06:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Etap Hotel
In-Reply-To: <bbb0d4d80906100107x14f93891yae1a1b7abc2cc131@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bbb0d4d80906100107x14f93891yae1a1b7abc2cc131@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906100206o6480c794y51cf132c18c6ee9b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

2009/6/10 Ales Zoulek <ales.zoulek at gmail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> I've registered for the conference and Etap Hotel. I wanted to extend my
> stay in the hotel (to start on Monday, not Tuesday), but the Etap Hotel
> personnel seems to have a problem find my hotel booking, there's no booking
> on my name. Do we have some ref. number, or something? Or is it booked
> anonymously for all atendees altogether?

Yes, it is booked anonymously now, nearer the conference we give them
a full list.

If you try and book extra nights direct with the hotel you may confuse
things, and possibly have to pay more money.

> The only thing I have is the registration ticket e-mail.

To book extra nights, book on the europython.eu website as if you were
registering for the conference and choose 'Not Required' for the
conference. Just book the hotel nights you want.

Best wishes,

John
--

From neil.pritchard at bangor.ac.uk  Wed Jun 10 10:28:07 2009
From: neil.pritchard at bangor.ac.uk (Neil Pritchard)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 09:28:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 - Bookings left ?
Message-ID: <4A2F6E97.5020609@bangor.ac.uk>

Hi,

I intend to attend at this year's EyroPython but have been told by my 
employer that they may pay for my attendance.  As per usual for a 
University however they are dragging their feet somewhat so I'm trying 
to instil some sense of urgency; Are you able to tell me approximately 
how many places are left at the conference ?

Thanks in anticipation of your assistance,

Neil Pritchard


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From ales.zoulek at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 11:10:21 2009
From: ales.zoulek at gmail.com (Ales Zoulek)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:10:21 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] [europython-contact]  Etap Hotel
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906100208r4fd43a69jd59d61d74ec892a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ales.zoulek@gmail.com>
	<bbb0d4d80906100107x14f93891yae1a1b7abc2cc131@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906100902.n5A92xot011392@theraft.openend.se>
	<ff8a32f0906100208r4fd43a69jd59d61d74ec892a4@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks a lot to both of you.


Regards,

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From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 11:14:50 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:14:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 - Bookings left ?
In-Reply-To: <4A2F6E97.5020609@bangor.ac.uk>
References: <4A2F6E97.5020609@bangor.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906100214u153467dp764c9b091cd7c86a@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Neil,

2009/6/10 Neil Pritchard <neil.pritchard at bangor.ac.uk>:
> Hi,
>
> I intend to attend at this year's EyroPython but have been told by my
> employer that they may pay for my attendance. ?As per usual for a University
> however they are dragging their feet somewhat so I'm trying to instil some
> sense of urgency; Are you able to tell me approximately how many places are
> left at the conference ?

Plenty. We have 358 registered, are planning on 400 plus, but have an
ultimate capacity of 550.

Probably not what you wanted to hear to hurry them up!

However, hotel accommodation may be limited and we will be closing
bookings for one of the hotels this weekend. To date we have fewer
than 30 rooms left.

> Thanks in anticipation of your assistance,

best wishes,

John
--

From aafshar at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 11:29:40 2009
From: aafshar at gmail.com (Ali Afshar)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:29:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsorship of tutorial
Message-ID: <4A2F7D04.7020906@gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

I am giving a tutorial on PyGTK (looking forward to it!), now my boss is 
willing to pay my entire conference costs if I do some mentioning of the 
company I work for.

Is this allowed? will other sponsors get upset?

Ali

From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 10 11:58:42 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:58:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sponsorship of tutorial
In-Reply-To: <4A2F7D04.7020906@gmail.com>
References: <4A2F7D04.7020906@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906100258u2d3bca0fmd5b1c4c6b907c208@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Ali,

2009/6/10 Ali Afshar <aafshar at gmail.com>:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I am giving a tutorial on PyGTK (looking forward to it!), now my boss is
> willing to pay my entire conference costs if I do some mentioning of the
> company I work for.
>
> Is this allowed? will other sponsors get upset?

We would not want any blatant plugs in your tutorial, there was some
abuse at last year's PyCon US and it caused some bad feeling.

Speaking for myself, I see no harm in you saying who you work for and
what you do (it's useful background after all), and having a handout
if people want to know more.

You could of course ask your boss if he would like to be a formal
sponsor of EP, and have your logo on the website, with links to the
sponsors' page and your website.

(Resolver Systems are sponsoring the IronPython tutorial for example.)

There is a sponsors' brochure available if you are interested.

Best wishes,

John
--

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 00:36:04 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 23:36:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 - Partners' Programme
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906111536g1418f0a2r1f0f5e81f4166d45@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone!

Just over two weeks to go!

Win Brownie points by bringing your nearest and dearest to EuroPython
2009. While you are immersed in all things Pythonic, they can join in
the Partners' Programme devised by our intrepid team of Mary, Jutta
and Sheila. It includes:

* Culture
* Sightseeing
* Fun
* Shopping

and I've attached a pdf with their proposals.

Please sign up at http://wiki.europython.eu/Conference%20Widows or
email mary at mem.1657 at googlemail.com

Thanks!

John
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 01:04:25 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:04:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>

Hello EuroPythoneers,

We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things like:

* Session chairing
* Audio recording
* Audio editing
* Photography - make sure we have some good pix!
* Bag stuffing
* Registration
* Anything else you'd like to help with, or you see needs doing

Now is the time to volunteer! You can sign up at
http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity/

Thanks!

John
--

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 01:06:53 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:06:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 : Twitter
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906111606x14cf6de1t7aa8701ebe311ac8@mail.gmail.com>

If you tweet, we now have a Twitter reflector running.

If you start your tweet with @europython, the rest of the message will
be 'reflected' to other Twitter EuroPython followers.

Best wishes,

John
--

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 01:14:07 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 00:14:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906111614t5c23d1b8ke34fec5fd25fcd92@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/12 John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com>:
> Hello EuroPythoneers,
> * Anything else you'd like to help with, or you see needs doing
>
> Now is the time to volunteer! You can sign up at
> http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity/

Feel free to volunteer as a general dogsbody also, especially in setup
and breakdown.

Best Wishes,
Zeth

From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Fri Jun 12 02:09:02 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:09:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e4e51a80906111709v1c25d984q6cc487f93d0489e1@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

For general helpers (ie heaving lifting, bag stuffing) what would be
the day and time to turn up to be the most useful or for some kind of
short briefing?

Ciar?n

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 02:11:04 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:11:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <3e4e51a80906111709v1c25d984q6cc487f93d0489e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4e51a80906111709v1c25d984q6cc487f93d0489e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906111711w5c53528etced156709741a209@mail.gmail.com>

I was suggesting to have an introduction for the crew at:

* 8.30am on Sunday 28th June 2009, for helpers who arrive on Sun.
* 7.55am on Tuesday 30th June 2009, for helpers who arrive on Tue.

Best Wishes,
Zeth

2009/6/12 Ciar?n Mooney <general.mooney at googlemail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> For general helpers (ie heaving lifting, bag stuffing) what would be
> the day and time to turn up to be the most useful or for some kind of
> short briefing?
>
> Ciar?n
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Fri Jun 12 02:13:47 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:13:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906111711w5c53528etced156709741a209@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4e51a80906111709v1c25d984q6cc487f93d0489e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906111711w5c53528etced156709741a209@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e4e51a80906111713h517f9a19oe47a9571fd0003ea@mail.gmail.com>

Ah!

I have just had a quick look at the timetable and time has already
been alloted for "Bag Stuffing and Preparation for Registration by
Volunteers" on Sunday at 17.15.

Ciar?n

ps. Zeth, *you* were suggesting pre-9am meetings??

On 12/06/2009, Zeth <theology at gmail.com> wrote:
> I was suggesting to have an introduction for the crew at:
>
> * 8.30am on Sunday 28th June 2009, for helpers who arrive on Sun.
> * 7.55am on Tuesday 30th June 2009, for helpers who arrive on Tue.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Zeth
>
> 2009/6/12 Ciar?n Mooney <general.mooney at googlemail.com>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> For general helpers (ie heaving lifting, bag stuffing) what would be
>> the day and time to turn up to be the most useful or for some kind of
>> short briefing?
>>
>> Ciar?n
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 02:16:33 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:16:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <3e4e51a80906111713h517f9a19oe47a9571fd0003ea@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4e51a80906111709v1c25d984q6cc487f93d0489e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906111711w5c53528etced156709741a209@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4e51a80906111713h517f9a19oe47a9571fd0003ea@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906111716m6483b0f2q6e865094878963eb@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/12 Ciar?n Mooney <general.mooney at googlemail.com>:
> ps. Zeth, *you* were suggesting pre-9am meetings??

;-)

Well there should be several opportunities for the crew to arrive and
be briefed since they are coming from all across Europe. It is
difficult to fit this in since the programme is spectacularly packed
in.

From christopher.swift at linux.com  Fri Jun 12 02:17:37 2009
From: christopher.swift at linux.com (Christopher Swift)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:17:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906111711w5c53528etced156709741a209@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>	<3e4e51a80906111709v1c25d984q6cc487f93d0489e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906111711w5c53528etced156709741a209@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A319EA1.3080505@linux.com>

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Haha I can attend the Sunday one for sure, 8:30am isn't that early to me
but thank God I'm not arriving on Tuesday, 7:55am is like the worst time
in the world to be out and about in a foreign city. If you'd like to
check the wiki I'd like to have a better idea of disaster management if
you wouldn't mind :].

Regards,
Chris.

Zeth wrote:
> I was suggesting to have an introduction for the crew at:
> 
> * 8.30am on Sunday 28th June 2009, for helpers who arrive on Sun.
> * 7.55am on Tuesday 30th June 2009, for helpers who arrive on Tue.
> 
> Best Wishes,
> Zeth
> 
> 2009/6/12 Ciar?n Mooney <general.mooney at googlemail.com>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> For general helpers (ie heaving lifting, bag stuffing) what would be
>> the day and time to turn up to be the most useful or for some kind of
>> short briefing?
>>
>> Ciar?n
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

- --
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http://launchpad.net/~chris

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From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 02:19:47 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 01:19:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <4A319EA1.3080505@linux.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4e51a80906111709v1c25d984q6cc487f93d0489e1@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906111711w5c53528etced156709741a209@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A319EA1.3080505@linux.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906111719n7a25230cr19e968bb77efb519@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/12 Christopher Swift <christopher.swift at linux.com>:
> If you'd like to
> check the wiki I'd like to have a better idea of disaster management if
> you wouldn't mind :].

Sure I'll email you.

From kitblake at infrae.com  Fri Jun 12 11:19:26 2009
From: kitblake at infrae.com (Kit BLAKE)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:19:26 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <18FCA8A4-F251-4D3D-8C0C-522D9957816A@infrae.com>

Hi,
I can chair a session or two, preferably in the morning. But not  
wedsneday as I'm doing a talk. My expertise is in the content  
management/Python/Zope direction.

Kit

On 12 Jun 2009, at 01:04, John Pinner wrote:

> Hello EuroPythoneers,
>
> We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things  
> like:
>
> * Session chairing
> * Audio recording
> * Audio editing
> * Photography - make sure we have some good pix!
> * Bag stuffing
> * Registration
> * Anything else you'd like to help with, or you see needs doing
>
> Now is the time to volunteer! You can sign up at
> http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity/
>
> Thanks!
>
> John
> --
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython



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From rjt at thegrindstone.me.uk  Fri Jun 12 11:40:58 2009
From: rjt at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:40:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Get in early to chair the sessions that interest you!
Message-ID: <4A3222AA.7070905@thegrindstone.me.uk>

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Hi

The Session Chair Rota table is now available:

	http://wiki.europython2009.eu/VolunteersByActivity

Just your name to the sessions that you want to chair.

We need volunteers to chair every session. If you get in quickly you
will be able to select those sessions that you want to attend anyway.

Details of what is expected of session chairs are available at:

	http://wiki.europython2009.eu/SessionTeam

Regards

Richard
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From rjt at thegrindstone.me.uk  Fri Jun 12 11:33:42 2009
From: rjt at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:33:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <18FCA8A4-F251-4D3D-8C0C-522D9957816A@infrae.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<18FCA8A4-F251-4D3D-8C0C-522D9957816A@infrae.com>
Message-ID: <4A3220F6.7080605@thegrindstone.me.uk>

Kit

Thank you very much for the offer.

Chairing a session does not require you to have expert knowledge in the
subject matter.

Please add your name to the sessions that you would like to char in the
Session Rota table at: http://wiki.europython2009.eu/VolunteersByActivity

Details of what is expected of a session chair can be found at:
http://wiki.europython2009.eu/SessionTeam

If you have any problems adding your name to the table, drop me an email
with the list of sessions that you would like to chair and I will do
wiki magic.

Regards

Richard


Kit BLAKE wrote:
> Hi,
> I can chair a session or two, preferably in the morning. But not
> wedsneday as I'm doing a talk. My expertise is in the content
> management/Python/Zope direction.
> 
> Kit
> 
> On 12 Jun 2009, at 01:04, John Pinner wrote:
> 
>> Hello EuroPythoneers,
>>
>> We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things like:
>>
>> * Session chairing
>> * Audio recording
>> * Audio editing
>> * Photography - make sure we have some good pix!
>> * Bag stuffing
>> * Registration
>> * Anything else you'd like to help with, or you see needs doing
>>
>> Now is the time to volunteer! You can sign up at
>> http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity/
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> John
>> -- 
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 
> 
> 


From martin at sourceguru.net  Fri Jun 12 12:13:34 2009
From: martin at sourceguru.net (Martin Meredith)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:13:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Get in early to chair the sessions that interest
 you!
In-Reply-To: <4A3222AA.7070905@thegrindstone.me.uk>
References: <4A3222AA.7070905@thegrindstone.me.uk>
Message-ID: <1244801614.3910.0.camel@trance.local>

On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 10:40 +0100, Richard Taylor wrote:
> Hi
> 
> The Session Chair Rota table is now available:
> 
> 	http://wiki.europython2009.eu/VolunteersByActivity
> 
> Just your name to the sessions that you want to chair.
> 
> We need volunteers to chair every session. If you get in quickly you
> will be able to select those sessions that you want to attend anyway.
> 
> Details of what is expected of session chairs are available at:
> 
> 	http://wiki.europython2009.eu/SessionTeam
> 
> Regards
> 
> Richard

Right, I think I've put myself in everything there. I should be used to
this kind of thing after PHP London :)


From lukasz.langa at stxnext.pl  Fri Jun 12 12:38:40 2009
From: lukasz.langa at stxnext.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz_Langa?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 12:38:40 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8337A8B0-B539-44DE-988B-53294AD10B8D@stxnext.pl>

John Pinner wrote:

> We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things  
> like:
>
> * Session chairing

There's a need for single chair per session, right?

> * Audio recording

Would there be anyone to briefly demonstrate the expected handling?

> * Audio editing

I already volunteered for that one :)

> * Photography - make sure we have some good pix!

Can you explain what exactly do you mean by good pix? :) I would be  
happy to help as I have a pretty decent camera I want to take anyway.

-- 
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Senior Developer



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From rjt at thegrindstone.me.uk  Fri Jun 12 12:17:55 2009
From: rjt at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 11:17:55 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Get in early to chair the sessions that interest
 you!
In-Reply-To: <1244801614.3910.0.camel@trance.local>
References: <4A3222AA.7070905@thegrindstone.me.uk>
	<1244801614.3910.0.camel@trance.local>
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Martin Meredith wrote:
> On Fri, 2009-06-12 at 10:40 +0100, Richard Taylor wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> The Session Chair Rota table is now available:
>>
>> 	http://wiki.europython2009.eu/VolunteersByActivity
>>
>> Just your name to the sessions that you want to chair.
>>
>> We need volunteers to chair every session. If you get in quickly you
>> will be able to select those sessions that you want to attend anyway.
>>
>> Details of what is expected of session chairs are available at:
>>
>> 	http://wiki.europython2009.eu/SessionTeam
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Richard
> 
> Right, I think I've put myself in everything there. I should be used to
> this kind of thing after PHP London :)
> 
> 
> 

Excellent!

Thanks Martin.

Richard

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From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Fri Jun 12 14:54:12 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 13:54:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <8337A8B0-B539-44DE-988B-53294AD10B8D@stxnext.pl>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<8337A8B0-B539-44DE-988B-53294AD10B8D@stxnext.pl>
Message-ID: <3e4e51a80906120554g7517ad47q97342fcd9c12d889@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

>> * Audio recording
>
> Would there be anyone to briefly demonstrate the expected handling?

That'll be me. It's very simple, me and my team will be concerned with
the actual recorders, session chairs just need to make sure the mic is
on, and working, and gets turned off at breaks. As simple as
remembering to turn a switch.

I'll be around pre-conference. Although it would help me if all the
session chairs could attend some kind of brief.

Ciar?n

From bernhard.bockelbrink at ableton.com  Fri Jun 12 15:19:52 2009
From: bernhard.bockelbrink at ableton.com (Bernhard Bockelbrink)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 15:19:52 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <BEC9324B3EE7364BA0B36D28B61E80500D8D8C79A3@air.office.ableton.com>
References: <BEC9324B3EE7364BA0B36D28B61E80500D8D8C79A3@air.office.ableton.com>
Message-ID: <BEC9324B3EE7364BA0B36D28B61E80500D8D8C7AC0@air.office.ableton.com>


Hi,

I can help with the audio editing. Will this be done on location or after the conference?

Best,

Bernhard 


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: europython-bounces+travel=ableton.com at python.org
> [mailto:europython-bounces+travel=ableton.com at python.org] On Behalf
> Of John Pinner
> Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 1:04 AM
> To: europython at python.org
> Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
> 
> Hello EuroPythoneers,
> 
> We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things
> like:
> 
> * Session chairing
> * Audio recording
> * Audio editing
> * Photography - make sure we have some good pix!
> * Bag stuffing
> * Registration
> * Anything else you'd like to help with, or you see needs doing
> 
> Now is the time to volunteer! You can sign up at
> http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity/
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> John
> --
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From cs at comlounge.net  Fri Jun 12 17:42:26 2009
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 17:42:26 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Barcamp?
Message-ID: <4A327762.30103@comlounge.net>

Hi there!

As you might remember I sort of organized a Barcamp like part of the
conference last year, mainly explaining what it is and doing session
planning each morning. The only thing I didn't was actually attending
one of the barcamp sessions due to video stuff to do ;-)

I'd very much like to do that again this year except with attending
sessions :-)

So if there is a spare room we can have and some billboard or simply
wall where we can put up a session plan then I am happy to run it this
year again.

For those who don't know what a barcamp is: It's basically the same as
open spaces, so there is an empty room and there are timeslots and each
morning people can signup to fill one of these slots with a talk,
discussion round or whatever they want to do there.

So if that would be possible again this year, I am happy to help!

cheers,

Christian

PS: More info at http://barcamp.org/



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From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 19:13:03 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:13:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <BEC9324B3EE7364BA0B36D28B61E80500D8D8C7AC0@air.office.ableton.com>
References: <BEC9324B3EE7364BA0B36D28B61E80500D8D8C79A3@air.office.ableton.com>
	<BEC9324B3EE7364BA0B36D28B61E80500D8D8C7AC0@air.office.ableton.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906121013v65d2a431u7b9bb71e50d689e5@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/12 Bernhard Bockelbrink <bernhard.bockelbrink at ableton.com>:
> I can help with the audio editing. Will this be done on location or after the conference?

Both hopefully, the more we get done as we go along, the less that
sits around on hard drives later ;)

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 19:23:00 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:23:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Fwd: [Europython-improve] Audio Tech Stuff - Get your
	room today!
In-Reply-To: <3e4e51a80906120842h450c7664ob068d34a5d9ce7d0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3e4e51a80906120842h450c7664ob068d34a5d9ce7d0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906121023t7b97de4dwe878a919d5c2fddb@mail.gmail.com>

Sent to bigger list, just to annoy everyone ;)


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ciar?n Mooney <general.mooney at googlemail.com>
Date: 2009/6/12
Subject: [Europython-improve] Audio Tech Stuff - Get your room today!
To: europython-improve <europython-improve at python.org>


Hi,

I've just noticed that there are now 5 people who would like to help
with the audio recording.

This is great! It means that we can pretty much have a room each to be
responsible for. For days with 6 tracks, I'll happily look after two.

Don't worry this doesn't mean you have to stay in the room all day. It
just means that you have to pop your head in during breaks to get the
recording and check everything is still ok.

I've edited the wiki page
(http://wiki.europython2009.eu/VolunteersByActivity) to have a table
(It seems to be what the other cool kids are using). Please sign up to
a room, so we don't repeat our efforts. I've not signed up to any
rooms yet, as I want to others first dibs.

Regards,

Ciar?n
_______________________________________________
Europython-improve mailing list
Europython-improve at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve

From tartley at tartley.com  Fri Jun 12 19:33:04 2009
From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:33:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Fwd: [Europython-improve] Audio Tech Stuff - Get
 your	room today!
In-Reply-To: <30434301.1244827540152.JavaMail.root@n17>
References: <3e4e51a80906120842h450c7664ob068d34a5d9ce7d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<30434301.1244827540152.JavaMail.root@n17>
Message-ID: <4A329150.9000106@tartley.com>

Are we recording tutorials as well?


Zeth wrote:
> Sent to bigger list, just to annoy everyone ;)
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ciar?n Mooney <general.mooney at googlemail.com>
> Date: 2009/6/12
> Subject: [Europython-improve] Audio Tech Stuff - Get your room today!
> To: europython-improve <europython-improve at python.org>
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I've just noticed that there are now 5 people who would like to help
> with the audio recording.
> 
> This is great! It means that we can pretty much have a room each to be
> responsible for. For days with 6 tracks, I'll happily look after two.
> 
> Don't worry this doesn't mean you have to stay in the room all day. It
> just means that you have to pop your head in during breaks to get the
> recording and check everything is still ok.
> 
> I've edited the wiki page
> (http://wiki.europython2009.eu/VolunteersByActivity) to have a table
> (It seems to be what the other cool kids are using). Please sign up to
> a room, so we don't repeat our efforts. I've not signed up to any
> rooms yet, as I want to others first dibs.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ciar?n
> _______________________________________________
> Europython-improve mailing list
> Europython-improve at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 

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From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Fri Jun 12 19:59:16 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 18:59:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Fwd: [Europython-improve] Audio Tech Stuff - Get
	your room today!
In-Reply-To: <4A329150.9000106@tartley.com>
References: <3e4e51a80906120842h450c7664ob068d34a5d9ce7d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<30434301.1244827540152.JavaMail.root@n17>
	<4A329150.9000106@tartley.com>
Message-ID: <3e4e51a80906121059v6f2027a5w9ae5070c8072dd8a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

No. I have tried it in the past, and usually the audio is fairly
useless. There is a lot of back and forth between the teacher and
students's, which is hard to hear, or the teacher moves a lot. Also
things like slides and examples are hard to tie up with the audio.

Also some of the people giving tutorials tend to make their living
that way, and it may not be in their best interests to have it
recorded.

In short, usually not worth the effort.

Ciar?n

From tony at tonyibbs.co.uk  Fri Jun 12 20:57:26 2009
From: tony at tonyibbs.co.uk (Tony Ibbs)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:57:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3C95E0F9-ECD8-49D7-90D0-B6A478782541@tonyibbs.co.uk>


On 12 Jun 2009, at 00:04, John Pinner wrote:

> Hello EuroPythoneers,
>
> We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things  
> like:
>
> * Session chairing


Duly volunteered for a couple of sessions (does that count as  
notification per the top of the wiki page?) .

Will there be a run through of what we're meant to do beforehand (I'm  
particularly thinking if we're responsible for getting a microphone  
attached to the speaker!)

Tibs

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Jun 12 21:11:58 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 20:11:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Fwd: [Europython-improve] Audio Tech Stuff - Get
	your room today!
In-Reply-To: <4A329150.9000106@tartley.com>
References: <3e4e51a80906120842h450c7664ob068d34a5d9ce7d0@mail.gmail.com>
	<30434301.1244827540152.JavaMail.root@n17>
	<4A329150.9000106@tartley.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906121211l2403bc30j760e387eb1238f50@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

2009/6/12 Jonathan Hartley <tartley at tartley.com>:
> Are we recording tutorials as well?

I say no.

John
--

>
> Zeth wrote:
>>
>> Sent to bigger list, just to annoy everyone ;)
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Ciar?n Mooney <general.mooney at googlemail.com>
>> Date: 2009/6/12
>> Subject: [Europython-improve] Audio Tech Stuff - Get your room today!
>> To: europython-improve <europython-improve at python.org>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've just noticed that there are now 5 people who would like to help
>> with the audio recording.
>>
>> This is great! It means that we can pretty much have a room each to be
>> responsible for. For days with 6 tracks, I'll happily look after two.
>>
>> Don't worry this doesn't mean you have to stay in the room all day. It
>> just means that you have to pop your head in during breaks to get the
>> recording and check everything is still ok.
>>
>> I've edited the wiki page
>> (http://wiki.europython2009.eu/VolunteersByActivity) to have a table
>> (It seems to be what the other cool kids are using). Please sign up to
>> a room, so we don't repeat our efforts. I've not signed up to any
>> rooms yet, as I want to others first dibs.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Ciar?n
>> _______________________________________________
>> Europython-improve mailing list
>> Europython-improve at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>
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>
> _______________________________________________
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>

From reinout at vanrees.org  Fri Jun 12 21:17:09 2009
From: reinout at vanrees.org (Reinout van Rees)
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:17:09 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:04 AM, John Pinner<funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello EuroPythoneers,
>
> We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things like:
>
> * Session chairing

I'll chair three sessions (I already added myself to the wiki). And
I'll blog a lot (like for EP 2006
http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/tags/europython2006.html ).

Reinout

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From funthyme at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 01:01:04 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:01:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
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Hello!

2009/6/12 Reinout van Rees <reinout at vanrees.org>:
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:04 AM, John Pinner<funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello EuroPythoneers,
>>
>> We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things like:
>>
>> * Session chairing
>
> I'll chair three sessions (I already added myself to the wiki). And
> I'll blog a lot (like for EP 2006
> http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/tags/europython2006.html ).

Thanks!

John
--

From funthyme at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 01:45:56 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 00:45:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Barcamp?
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Hello Christian,

2009/6/12 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>:
> Hi there!
>
> As you might remember I sort of organized a Barcamp like part of the
> conference last year, mainly explaining what it is and doing session
> planning each morning. The only thing I didn't was actually attending
> one of the barcamp sessions due to video stuff to do ;-)
>
> I'd very much like to do that again this year except with attending
> sessions :-)
>
> So if there is a spare room we can have and some billboard or simply
> wall where we can put up a session plan then I am happy to run it this
> year again.

If you look at the timetable you will see that there is room for this,
marked a Open Space.

Also Bruce Eckel has volunteered to run a panel to explain what a
barcamp is and how to run one. This could start the barcamp sessions
off.

All this would be very helpful because we're having a one day PyCon UK
barcamp on 5th September.

> For those who don't know what a barcamp is: It's basically the same as
> open spaces, so there is an empty room and there are timeslots and each
> morning people can signup to fill one of these slots with a talk,
> discussion round or whatever they want to do there.
>
> So if that would be possible again this year, I am happy to help!

Thank you again :-)

best wishes,

John
--

From tim at tizmoi.net  Sat Jun 13 10:51:10 2009
From: tim at tizmoi.net (Tim Couper)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:51:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
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John

I'd be willing tor do the Session Chair "team captain" role during the 
conference (as per PyCon UK 2007)  [ ie endeavouring to ensure that the 
session chair who said he/she would be there does turn up, and be a 
point person for session chairs who have to change their schedules at 
short notice, and be available for speakers who have issues on that day, 
prior to their actual presentation (when the session chair takes over 
such "hosting")  .. and no doubt other related stuff.

Would this be of help?

Tim

John Pinner wrote:
> Hello!
>
> 2009/6/12 Reinout van Rees <reinout at vanrees.org>:
>   
>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:04 AM, John Pinner<funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:
>>     
>>> Hello EuroPythoneers,
>>>
>>> We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things like:
>>>
>>> * Session chairing
>>>       
>> I'll chair three sessions (I already added myself to the wiki). And
>> I'll blog a lot (like for EP 2006
>> http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/tags/europython2006.html ).
>>     
>
> Thanks!
>
> John
> --
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 12:23:11 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:23:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
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Hello Tim,

2009/6/13 Tim Couper <tim at tizmoi.net>:
> John
>
> I'd be willing tor do the Session Chair "team captain" role during the
> conference (as per PyCon UK 2007) ?[ ie endeavouring to ensure that the
> session chair who said he/she would be there does turn up, and be a point
> person for session chairs who have to change their schedules at short
> notice, and be available for speakers who have issues on that day, prior to
> their actual presentation (when the session chair takes over such "hosting")
> ?.. and no doubt other related stuff.
>
> Would this be of help?

It would! Put yourself on the wiki please.

Thanks!

Best wishes,

John
--

>
> Tim
>
> John Pinner wrote:
>>
>> Hello!
>>
>> 2009/6/12 Reinout van Rees <reinout at vanrees.org>:
>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 1:04 AM, John Pinner<funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello EuroPythoneers,
>>>>
>>>> We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things
>>>> like:
>>>>
>>>> * Session chairing
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'll chair three sessions (I already added myself to the wiki). And
>>> I'll blog a lot (like for EP 2006
>>> http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/tags/europython2006.html ).
>>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> John
>> --
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database:
>> 270.12.65/2171 - Release Date: 06/12/09 05:55:00
>>
>>
>

From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 12:35:04 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 04:35:04 -0600
Subject: [EuroPython] Barcamp?
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Just to clarify, I offered to explain Open Spaces conferences, which is the
kind of conference I've been doing. My understanding is that Bar Camps use
Open Spaces, but if that isn't correct you should let me know.

-- Bruce Eckel



On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:45 PM, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Christian,
>
> 2009/6/12 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>:
> > Hi there!
> >
> > As you might remember I sort of organized a Barcamp like part of the
> > conference last year, mainly explaining what it is and doing session
> > planning each morning. The only thing I didn't was actually attending
> > one of the barcamp sessions due to video stuff to do ;-)
> >
> > I'd very much like to do that again this year except with attending
> > sessions :-)
> >
> > So if there is a spare room we can have and some billboard or simply
> > wall where we can put up a session plan then I am happy to run it this
> > year again.
>
> If you look at the timetable you will see that there is room for this,
> marked a Open Space.
>
> Also Bruce Eckel has volunteered to run a panel to explain what a
> barcamp is and how to run one. This could start the barcamp sessions
> off.
>
> All this would be very helpful because we're having a one day PyCon UK
> barcamp on 5th September.
>
> > For those who don't know what a barcamp is: It's basically the same as
> > open spaces, so there is an empty room and there are timeslots and each
> > morning people can signup to fill one of these slots with a talk,
> > discussion round or whatever they want to do there.
> >
> > So if that would be possible again this year, I am happy to help!
>
> Thank you again :-)
>
> best wishes,
>
> John
> --
>
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From cs at comlounge.net  Sat Jun 13 14:09:39 2009
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 14:09:39 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Barcamp?
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Hi!

Bruce Eckel wrote:
> Just to clarify, I offered to explain Open Spaces conferences, which is
> the kind of conference I've been doing. My understanding is that Bar
> Camps use Open Spaces, but if that isn't correct you should let me know.

I guess that's right, basically it's about a planning session in the
morning where everybody is introducing the session they want to do,
asking for interest in it and then choosing a timeslot for the room(s).

I guess the difference might be that barcamps are more standalone events
with usually free entry utilizing the open space concept. I like to
advertise it more as barcamp like portion of the conference though
because I also would like to encourage people to visit more barcamps in
their respective countries. They are usually of course of much broader
topics, meaning web in general, but if developers are there, then mostly
ruby or PHP people (at least in Germany). It would be great to also have
more python people there so it would be great to also mention this in
the introduction (moreover you get to know quite a lot of interesting
people by visiting barcamps ;-) ).

I am around from the 27th or 28th (need to check) onwards so we can
maybe talk about this then and compare concepts :-)

And great to have a room for this of course! :-)

cheers,

Christian



> 
> -- Bruce Eckel
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 5:45 PM, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com
> <mailto:funthyme at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     Hello Christian,
> 
>     2009/6/12 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net <mailto:cs at comlounge.net>>:
>     > Hi there!
>     >
>     > As you might remember I sort of organized a Barcamp like part of the
>     > conference last year, mainly explaining what it is and doing session
>     > planning each morning. The only thing I didn't was actually attending
>     > one of the barcamp sessions due to video stuff to do ;-)
>     >
>     > I'd very much like to do that again this year except with attending
>     > sessions :-)
>     >
>     > So if there is a spare room we can have and some billboard or simply
>     > wall where we can put up a session plan then I am happy to run it this
>     > year again.
> 
>     If you look at the timetable you will see that there is room for this,
>     marked a Open Space.
> 
>     Also Bruce Eckel has volunteered to run a panel to explain what a
>     barcamp is and how to run one. This could start the barcamp sessions
>     off.
> 
>     All this would be very helpful because we're having a one day PyCon UK
>     barcamp on 5th September.
> 
>     > For those who don't know what a barcamp is: It's basically the same as
>     > open spaces, so there is an empty room and there are timeslots and
>     each
>     > morning people can signup to fill one of these slots with a talk,
>     > discussion round or whatever they want to do there.
>     >
>     > So if that would be possible again this year, I am happy to help!
> 
>     Thank you again :-)
> 
>     best wishes,
> 
>     John
>     --
> 
> 


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From theology at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 14:08:31 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:08:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Barcamp?
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2009/6/13 Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel at gmail.com>:
> Just to clarify, I offered to explain Open Spaces conferences, which is the
> kind of conference I've been doing. My understanding is that Bar Camps use
> Open Spaces, but if that isn't correct you should let me know.

For PyConUK, we once had a long mailing list thread about 'BarCamp'
versus some other types of 'open space'. However, when it comes to
making cucumber sandwiches, it does not matter if you are a
pre-millenialist middle Anglo-Catholic instead of a post-millenialist
high Anglican, you put butter and cucumber between slices of bread.
Lets not worry about branding and philosophy, you have a load of
Python geeks sitting in a circle doing what the participants want,
rather than what we, the organisers, have pre-planned.

From tim at tizmoi.net  Sat Jun 13 14:45:45 2009
From: tim at tizmoi.net (Tim Couper)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:45:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Attn: EuroPython Session Chair Volunteers
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Guys and gals

The following have kindly offered their services as Session Chairs, but 
have not yet signed up for one or more sessions. Could you please sign 
up for sessions at your earliest convenience, by selecting appropriate 
slots in the table on 
http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity#preview

    *

      JohnPinner <http://wiki.europython.eu/JohnPinner>

    *

      PaulBoddie <http://wiki.europython.eu/PaulBoddie>

    *

      MichaelFoord <http://wiki.europython.eu/MichaelFoord>

    *

      OrestisMarkou <http://wiki.europython.eu/OrestisMarkou>

    *

      CarlFriedrichBolz <http://wiki.europython.eu/CarlFriedrichBolz> (CFB)

    *

      NigelCohen <http://wiki.europython.eu/NigelCohen>

When you have entered your slot(s), please remove your name from the 
session volunteers list (unless you aren't going to select a session at 
this time, but would be willing to ba available to EP as a "stand-in", 
in which case please append "stand-in" to your name in that list .. so I 
know who you are :-).

Tim Couper
Session Chair Team Captain

From tim at tizmoi.net  Sat Jun 13 14:49:13 2009
From: tim at tizmoi.net (Tim Couper)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:49:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Barcamp?
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Hang on Zeth .. I think post-millenialist-early-for-Christmas, 
fair-trade, Orthodox cucumbers are clearly the sort we want .. :-)

Tim

Zeth wrote:
> 2009/6/13 Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel at gmail.com>:
>   
>> Just to clarify, I offered to explain Open Spaces conferences, which is the
>> kind of conference I've been doing. My understanding is that Bar Camps use
>> Open Spaces, but if that isn't correct you should let me know.
>>     
>
> For PyConUK, we once had a long mailing list thread about 'BarCamp'
> versus some other types of 'open space'. However, when it comes to
> making cucumber sandwiches, it does not matter if you are a
> pre-millenialist middle Anglo-Catholic instead of a post-millenialist
> high Anglican, you put butter and cucumber between slices of bread.
> Lets not worry about branding and philosophy, you have a load of
> Python geeks sitting in a circle doing what the participants want,
> rather than what we, the organisers, have pre-planned.
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
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From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Sat Jun 13 17:52:26 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 09:52:26 -0600
Subject: [EuroPython] Barcamp?
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Like I say, I *think* we're on the same page here. But having never been to
a bar camp, only heard about them, I wanted to make sure I wasn't offering
to describe something else than what you are asking for.

-- Bruce Eckel



On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Tim Couper <tim at tizmoi.net> wrote:

> Hang on Zeth .. I think post-millenialist-early-for-Christmas, fair-trade,
> Orthodox cucumbers are clearly the sort we want .. :-)
>
> Tim
>
> Zeth wrote:
>
>> 2009/6/13 Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel at gmail.com>:
>>
>>
>>> Just to clarify, I offered to explain Open Spaces conferences, which is
>>> the
>>> kind of conference I've been doing. My understanding is that Bar Camps
>>> use
>>> Open Spaces, but if that isn't correct you should let me know.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> For PyConUK, we once had a long mailing list thread about 'BarCamp'
>> versus some other types of 'open space'. However, when it comes to
>> making cucumber sandwiches, it does not matter if you are a
>> pre-millenialist middle Anglo-Catholic instead of a post-millenialist
>> high Anglican, you put butter and cucumber between slices of bread.
>> Lets not worry about branding and philosophy, you have a load of
>> Python geeks sitting in a circle doing what the participants want,
>> rather than what we, the organisers, have pre-planned.
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
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>>
>>
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From lac at openend.se  Sat Jun 13 19:02:58 2009
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 19:02:58 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Barcamp?
In-Reply-To: Message from Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel@gmail.com> of "Sat,
	13 Jun 2009 09:52:26 MDT."
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But do you peel your cucumbers before you make the sandwiches, or
leave the skins on?  And what about crusts?  To trim off or not
to trim off?  White bread or whole wheat?  See, plenty of room
for religious disagreement, should one feel the need ...

Laura


>>> (zeth)
>>> For PyConUK, we once had a long mailing list thread about 'BarCamp'
>>> versus some other types of 'open space'. However, when it comes to
>>> making cucumber sandwiches, it does not matter if you are a
>>> pre-millenialist middle Anglo-Catholic instead of a post-millenialist
>>> high Anglican, you put butter and cucumber between slices of bread.
>>> Lets not worry about branding and philosophy, you have a load of
>>> Python geeks sitting in a circle doing what the participants want,
>>> rather than what we, the organisers, have pre-planned.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> EuroPython mailing list
>>> EuroPython at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>--
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>
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From steve at holdenweb.com  Sat Jun 13 19:05:57 2009
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2009 13:05:57 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] Barcamp?
In-Reply-To: <200906131702.n5DH2wP3013131@theraft.openend.se>
References: <4A327762.30103@comlounge.net>	<ff8a32f0906121645ma155ba5pac7466173a2ef6cf@mail.gmail.com>	<14e7a2380906130335r4bb7240axf9b8b899155d3f16@mail.gmail.com>	<b1f5d7040906130508v6d63c6dcy4c0cbc96f855b932@mail.gmail.com>	<4A33A049.9020809@tizmoi.net>	<14e7a2380906130852k20bb98dk3b5aaf95cce653b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906131702.n5DH2wP3013131@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <4A33DC75.6050202@holdenweb.com>

Laura Creighton wrote:
> But do you peel your cucumbers before you make the sandwiches, or
> leave the skins on?  And what about crusts?  To trim off or not
> to trim off?  White bread or whole wheat?  See, plenty of room
> for religious disagreement, should one feel the need ...
> 
Sorry, what color did you want that bike shed?

regards
 Steve
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From tim at tizmoi.net  Sun Jun 14 10:33:13 2009
From: tim at tizmoi.net (Tim Couper)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 09:33:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Barcamp?
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References: <4A327762.30103@comlounge.net>	
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Message-ID: <4A34B5C9.7060900@tizmoi.net>

Bruce

Apologies - we all went wandering off into some kind of Monty Python 
sketch ...

We will I'm sure be *very happy* with whatever you'd like to bring to 
lead us in this "Open Spaces","BOF" land. IIRC you should have been 
doing leading a similar event @ PyCon, but had a broken leg; however 
your colleague (I was going to say "stand-in" but that would just lead 
to more jokes..) did an excellent job of providing orientation early on 
at that conference as to what was (or, actually, was not) expected, and 
I'd hope that there would be the early opportunity at EP to do a similar 
short intro. Looking forward to it!  :-)

Tim

Bruce Eckel wrote:
> Like I say, I *think* we're on the same page here. But having never 
> been to a bar camp, only heard about them, I wanted to make sure I 
> wasn't offering to describe something else than what you are asking for.
>
> -- Bruce Eckel
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Tim Couper <tim at tizmoi.net 
> <mailto:tim at tizmoi.net>> wrote:
>
>     Hang on Zeth .. I think post-millenialist-early-for-Christmas,
>     fair-trade, Orthodox cucumbers are clearly the sort we want .. :-)
>
>     Tim
>
>     Zeth wrote:
>
>         2009/6/13 Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel at gmail.com
>         <mailto:bruceteckel at gmail.com>>:
>          
>
>             Just to clarify, I offered to explain Open Spaces
>             conferences, which is the
>             kind of conference I've been doing. My understanding is
>             that Bar Camps use
>             Open Spaces, but if that isn't correct you should let me know.
>                
>
>
>         For PyConUK, we once had a long mailing list thread about
>         'BarCamp'
>         versus some other types of 'open space'. However, when it comes to
>         making cucumber sandwiches, it does not matter if you are a
>         pre-millenialist middle Anglo-Catholic instead of a
>         post-millenialist
>         high Anglican, you put butter and cucumber between slices of
>         bread.
>         Lets not worry about branding and philosophy, you have a load of
>         Python geeks sitting in a circle doing what the participants want,
>         rather than what we, the organisers, have pre-planned.
>         _______________________________________________
>         EuroPython mailing list
>         EuroPython at python.org <mailto:EuroPython at python.org>
>         http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>         ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Sun Jun 14 22:12:42 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 14:12:42 -0600
Subject: [EuroPython] Barcamp?
In-Reply-To: <4A34B5C9.7060900@tizmoi.net>
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	<ff8a32f0906121645ma155ba5pac7466173a2ef6cf@mail.gmail.com>
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I do have a short intro (< 15 minutes) which I can do. It's designed to be
an intro to an open spaces conference (to be given to acquaint people with
the process, before the open spaces sessions start)  but will also work as a
starting point for discussion for people who are interested in doing it. You
can see a screencast here:
http://us.pycon.org/2009/openspace/

-- Bruce Eckel



On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Tim Couper <tim at tizmoi.net> wrote:

> Bruce
>
> Apologies - we all went wandering off into some kind of Monty Python sketch
> ...
>
> We will I'm sure be *very happy* with whatever you'd like to bring to lead
> us in this "Open Spaces","BOF" land. IIRC you should have been doing leading
> a similar event @ PyCon, but had a broken leg; however your colleague (I was
> going to say "stand-in" but that would just lead to more jokes..) did an
> excellent job of providing orientation early on at that conference as to
> what was (or, actually, was not) expected, and I'd hope that there would be
> the early opportunity at EP to do a similar short intro. Looking forward to
> it!  :-)
>
> Tim
>
> Bruce Eckel wrote:
>
>> Like I say, I *think* we're on the same page here. But having never been
>> to a bar camp, only heard about them, I wanted to make sure I wasn't
>> offering to describe something else than what you are asking for.
>>
>> -- Bruce Eckel
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 6:49 AM, Tim Couper <tim at tizmoi.net <mailto:
>> tim at tizmoi.net>> wrote:
>>
>>    Hang on Zeth .. I think post-millenialist-early-for-Christmas,
>>    fair-trade, Orthodox cucumbers are clearly the sort we want .. :-)
>>
>>    Tim
>>
>>    Zeth wrote:
>>
>>        2009/6/13 Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel at gmail.com
>>        <mailto:bruceteckel at gmail.com>>:
>>
>>            Just to clarify, I offered to explain Open Spaces
>>            conferences, which is the
>>            kind of conference I've been doing. My understanding is
>>            that Bar Camps use
>>            Open Spaces, but if that isn't correct you should let me know.
>>
>>
>>        For PyConUK, we once had a long mailing list thread about
>>        'BarCamp'
>>        versus some other types of 'open space'. However, when it comes to
>>        making cucumber sandwiches, it does not matter if you are a
>>        pre-millenialist middle Anglo-Catholic instead of a
>>        post-millenialist
>>        high Anglican, you put butter and cucumber between slices of
>>        bread.
>>        Lets not worry about branding and philosophy, you have a load of
>>        Python geeks sitting in a circle doing what the participants want,
>>        rather than what we, the organisers, have pre-planned.
>>        _______________________________________________
>>        EuroPython mailing list
>>        EuroPython at python.org <mailto:EuroPython at python.org>
>>        http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>        No virus found in this incoming message.
>>        Checked by AVG - www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com> Version:
>>        8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.66/2172 - Release Date:
>>        06/12/09 17:56:00
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> No virus found in this incoming message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database:
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From glingl at aon.at  Mon Jun 15 10:02:09 2009
From: glingl at aon.at (Gregor Lingl)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 10:02:09 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A360001.1040507@aon.at>

John Pinner schrieb:
> Hello EuroPythoneers,
>
> We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things like:
>
> * Session chairing
> * Audio recording
> * Audio editing
> * Photography - make sure we have some good pix!
>   
Hello,

I'd enjoy to help with photography.

I just would need some advice, which places, which events, which people
are important to you.

Regards,
Gregor

> * Bag stuffing
> * Registration
> * Anything else you'd like to help with, or you see needs doing
>
> Now is the time to volunteer! You can sign up at
> http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity/
>
> Thanks!
>
> John
> --
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>   


From antoine at pitrou.net  Mon Jun 15 14:18:18 2009
From: antoine at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:18:18 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] cheque payment
Message-ID: <1245068298.5514.10.camel@localhost>


Hello,

I'd like to know whether it's possible to pay for the registration with
a French bank (postal) cheque. It would make my accounting easier.

Regards

Antoine.



From funthyme at gmail.com  Mon Jun 15 15:08:49 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 14:08:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] cheque payment
In-Reply-To: <1245068298.5514.10.camel@localhost>
References: <1245068298.5514.10.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906150608k789b5826yacb27ef8e606ef2e@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Antoine,

2009/6/15 Antoine Pitrou <antoine at pitrou.net>:
>
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to know whether it's possible to pay for the registration with
> a French bank (postal) cheque. It would make my accounting easier.

I'm sorry, but it would make our accounting a lot more difficult and
give us higher charges :-(

The bank should be able to do a Bank Transfer for you without any difficulty.

Best wishes,

John
--


>
> Regards
>
> Antoine.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From funthyme at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 00:12:28 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2009 23:12:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython - Help Needed
In-Reply-To: <4A360001.1040507@aon.at>
References: <ff8a32f0906111604s5fd44713t443eb89a4137a8a8@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A360001.1040507@aon.at>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906151512n39565f83x2461bd76e9f6e8cd@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Gregor,

Thank you!

2009/6/15 Gregor Lingl <glingl at aon.at>:
> John Pinner schrieb:
>>
>> Hello EuroPythoneers,
>>
>> We need help making things happen at this year's conference, things like:
>>
>> * Session chairing
>> * Audio recording
>> * Audio editing
>> * Photography - make sure we have some good pix!
>>
>
> Hello,
>
> I'd enjoy to help with photography.

 Now we have more photography volunteers than anything else! Please
put your name on the wiki.

> I just would need some advice, which places, which events, which people
> are important to you.

It's probably best if we split the things to be done between you all,
let's talk at the beginning of the conference.

Thanks again,

Best wishes,

John
--

> Regards,
> Gregor
>
>> * Bag stuffing
>> * Registration
>> * Anything else you'd like to help with, or you see needs doing
>>
>> Now is the time to volunteer! You can sign up at
>> http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity/
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> John
>> -
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>>
>
>

From arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 00:52:06 2009
From: arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com (Arnoldas Grigutis)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:52:06 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
Message-ID: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I am arriving in London Stansted (I don't know what Stansted means) on June
27th, 12:40 PM.
How should I get to Birmingham? I haven't been to UK before.
Should I take a train? Are there any schedules for trains, maybe online
booking I can do before I leave?
How should I get to a train/metro/whatever station from the airport?

Arnoldas Grigutis
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 02:04:41 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:04:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906151704r82e23e5i88008e802c1ae0b9@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Arnoldas,

2009/6/15 Arnoldas Grigutis <arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com>:
> Hello,
> I am arriving in London Stansted (I don't know what Stansted means)

Stansted is one of London's secondary airports, a little more pleasant
than Heathrow.

> on June
> 27th, 12:40 PM.
> How should I get to Birmingham? I haven't been to UK before.
> Should I take a train? Are there any schedules for trains, maybe online
> booking I can do before I leave?
> How should I get to a train/metro/whatever station from the airport?

I think there's a bus connection to Birmingham: Zeth will no doubt
tell you as he's done that trip before.

Best wishes,

John
--

From sparks.m at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 02:26:25 2009
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:26:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20e5c9660906151726l215d007fmea06123222ba00b4@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Arnoldas,


Here's a link to the train timetable from Stansted's train station to
Birmingham New Street train station:

http://www.traintimes.org.uk/stansted/birmingham/13:00/next-saturday

That's the timetable for just after you arrive. If you click on the
numbers above each option it shows you the connections you'd need to
make by train - which appears to be Stansted -> Tottenham Hale ->
Euston -> Birmingham New Street.

(traintimes.org.uk isn't an official UK rail thing, but it does query
the official thing, and it's a nicer interface IMO)

If there's a direct bus as John's mail hints, that might be easier,
but may take longer - based on playing with national express's (one
bus company) journey planner:
   http://www.nationalexpress.com/coach/index.cfm

This...
http://www.intalink.org.uk/Timetables/tt/777_A_ATG.PDF

...appears to list another coach that goes between Stansted &
Birmingham, and takes a similar length of time.

For other people travelling shorter distances, the traveline website
can also be useful:

   http://www.traveline.org.uk/index.htm

Regards,


Michael.

From lac at openend.se  Tue Jun 16 07:46:18 2009
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:46:18 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: Message from John Pinner <funthyme@gmail.com> of "Tue,
	16 Jun 2009 01:04:41 BST."
	<ff8a32f0906151704r82e23e5i88008e802c1ae0b9@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906151704r82e23e5i88008e802c1ae0b9@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200906160546.n5G5kIYS021989@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:04:41 BST, John Pinner writes:
>Hello Arnoldas,
>
>2009/6/15 Arnoldas Grigutis <arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com>:
>> Hello,
>> I am arriving in London Stansted (I don't know what Stansted means)
>
>Stansted is one of London's secondary airports, a little more pleasant
>than Heathrow.
>
>> on June
>> 27th, 12:40 PM.
>> How should I get to Birmingham? I haven't been to UK before.
>> Should I take a train? Are there any schedules for trains, maybe online
>> booking I can do before I leave?
>> How should I get to a train/metro/whatever station from the airport?
>
>I think there's a bus connection to Birmingham: Zeth will no doubt
>tell you as he's done that trip before.
>
>Best wishes,
>
>John

There already is a train station  Stansted Airport, so you just walk
there.

You can catch a train from Stansted Airport to Birmingham.

You order it here:
http://tickets.londonmidland.com/lm/en/JourneyPlanning/MixingDeck

Your 'from' destination is Stansted Airport
Your 'to' is for Birmingham New Street.

If you order more than a week in advance, your fair is cheaper.

I am not a local, I have just done this.  If locals come by here and
say there is a better way, believe them.

Laura


From russel.winder at concertant.com  Tue Jun 16 08:29:17 2009
From: russel.winder at concertant.com (Russel Winder)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 07:29:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1245133757.4413.68.camel@balin>

On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 01:52 +0300, Arnoldas Grigutis wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 
> I am arriving in London Stansted (I don't know what Stansted means) on
> June 27th, 12:40 PM.
> How should I get to Birmingham? I haven't been to UK before.
> Should I take a train? Are there any schedules for trains, maybe
> online booking I can do before I leave?
> How should I get to a train/metro/whatever station from the airport?
> 
> 
As others have already noted Stansted is London's third (some would say
fourth) airport.

There are two basic options to get to Birmingham New Street rail station
from Stansted, there is a direct train (I think it is an hourly service)
that takes 3.5 hours, or you can do a 3-train journey -- train Stansted
-> Tottenham Hale (this is the main Stansted -> London Liverpool Street
service, tube Tottenham Hale -> Euston, then train Euston -> Birmingham
New Street; overall about 2.75 hours, so faster than a direct train!

> 
-- 
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From theology at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 11:14:59 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:14:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/15 Arnoldas Grigutis <arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com>:
> Hello,
> I am arriving in London Stansted (I don't know what Stansted means) on June
> 27th, 12:40 PM.
> How should I get to Birmingham? I haven't been to UK before.
> Should I take a train? Are there any schedules for trains, maybe online
> booking I can do before I leave?
> How should I get to a train/metro/whatever station from the airport?

I do this journey often, and I personally take the National Express
because it is cheaper than the Train. However it does take a long
time.

It is best to book in advance via the website http://www.nationalexpress.com

You need to enter into the boxes:
Stansted Airport
Birmingham

This is a large coach that goes from the Airport. It is much cheaper
to book a return than to book a single. If you are young you can buy a
discount card but which may work out cheaper if you ever come back to
the UK.

From theology at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 11:21:42 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:21:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>

On the subject of transport. Can I just mention that if anyone flies
in to Birmingham International, take the train to the city centre
(Birmingham New Street), it takes 12 minutes and costs a few quid.
Trains are every 5 minutes in peak time. A taxi takes far longer and
costs much more.

From chef at ghum.de  Tue Jun 16 11:30:36 2009
From: chef at ghum.de (Massa, Harald Armin)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:30:36 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>

Zeth,

thank you for this valuable information. Additional request, maybe you have
this information available:

- WHERE do I buy tickets for the train?
- can I pay per credit card / mastercard or do they accept Euro?
  (if not: is there a normal-priced ATM available at Birmingham
International? (often Airport-ATMs are legal scam with ultra fees)

- could you arrange to get this information on our website?

best wishes,

Harald



On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Zeth <theology at gmail.com> wrote:

> On the subject of transport. Can I just mention that if anyone flies
> in to Birmingham International, take the train to the city centre
> (Birmingham New Street), it takes 12 minutes and costs a few quid.
> Trains are every 5 minutes in peak time. A taxi takes far longer and
> costs much more.
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>



-- 
GHUM Harald Massa
persuadere et programmare
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Spielberger Stra?e 49
70435 Stuttgart
0173/9409607
no fx, no carrier pigeon
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From martin at sourceguru.net  Tue Jun 16 11:48:15 2009
From: martin at sourceguru.net (Martin Meredith)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:48:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>
	<e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1245145696.4126.0.camel@trance.local>

On Tue, 2009-06-16 at 11:30 +0200, Massa, Harald Armin wrote:
> Zeth,
> 
> thank you for this valuable information. Additional request, maybe you
> have this information available:
> 
> - WHERE do I buy tickets for the train? 

At the train station, there will be a ticket booth, or a ticket machine.

> - can I pay per credit card / mastercard or do they accept Euro?
>   (if not: is there a normal-priced ATM available at Birmingham
> International? (often Airport-ATMs are legal scam with ultra fees)

I believe all staffed train stations in the UK now have the ability to
accept card.

> - could you arrange to get this information on our website?
> 
> best wishes,
> 
> Harald
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Zeth <theology at gmail.com> wrote:
>         On the subject of transport. Can I just mention that if anyone
>         flies
>         in to Birmingham International, take the train to the city
>         centre
>         (Birmingham New Street), it takes 12 minutes and costs a few
>         quid.
>         Trains are every 5 minutes in peak time. A taxi takes far
>         longer and
>         costs much more.
>         
>         _______________________________________________
>         EuroPython mailing list
>         EuroPython at python.org
>         http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>         
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> GHUM Harald Massa
> persuadere et programmare
> Harald Armin Massa
> Spielberger Stra?e 49
> 70435 Stuttgart
> 0173/9409607
> no fx, no carrier pigeon 
> -
> LASIK good, steroids bad?
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython


From hfoffani at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 11:55:58 2009
From: hfoffani at gmail.com (Hernan M Foffani)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 11:55:58 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com> 
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com> 
	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com> 
	<e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11fab4bc0906160255x37f014x3f8dd3cbfd86b46d@mail.gmail.com>

> Zeth,
>
> thank you for this valuable information. Additional request, maybe you have
> this information available:
>
> - WHERE do I buy tickets for the train?
> - can I pay per credit card / mastercard or do they accept Euro?
> ? (if not: is there a normal-priced ATM available at Birmingham
> International? (often Airport-ATMs are legal scam with ultra fees)

When going to England I use to change some currency at Travelex bureau
at the arrival airport. Their rate is not so bad and they provide a
buy back service at the same price.

-H.

From borja at codigo23.net  Tue Jun 16 13:59:29 2009
From: borja at codigo23.net (Francisco de Borja Lopez Rio)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:59:29 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham (by car)
Message-ID: <20090616135929.c67209b7.borja@codigo23.net>


Hi everyone.

I'll arrive in London (Heathrow) on monday (the 29th), 16:00 local
time, and I've rented a car for me and another guy to get to
Birmingham. There will be 2 seats available in case anyone else arrives
at the same day/time and want to join the ride.

We will fly from spain (galicia) so if anyone else from galicia is
going to fly to London, perhaps we can meet before and organize the
London-Birmingham trip together.

Anybody else interested, just tell me.

-- 

"Do nothing which is of no use." - Miyamoto Musashi
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Francisco de Borja Lopez Rio (borja at codigo23.net)
Soluciones Informaticas Codigo23 S.L.U.
http://www.codigo23.net 


From jean.luc.carre at net-ng.com  Tue Jun 16 13:41:21 2009
From: jean.luc.carre at net-ng.com (Jean-Luc Carre)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 13:41:21 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython registration
Message-ID: <4A3784E1.80100@net-ng.com>

Hi,

We'd like to book for 2 people from Net-ng (corporate rate), and pay by 
one credit card.
Could you please give us the right way to do it ?

Best Regards,
Jean-Luc Carre
CEO Net-ng

From carlo.hamalainen at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 20:19:55 2009
From: carlo.hamalainen at gmail.com (Carlo Hamalainen)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 20:19:55 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] tutorial check-in
Message-ID: <46ba3d380906161119t589e4139u2d954caafbca8127@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Do we get an email saying which tutorials we checked in to? I checked
in to three and got sent back to the check-in page, which feels like
something went wrong.

-- 
Carlo Hamalainen
http://carlo-hamalainen.net

From tartley at tartley.com  Tue Jun 16 20:52:04 2009
From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:52:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] tutorial check-in
In-Reply-To: <7189308.1245176829922.JavaMail.root@n17>
References: <7189308.1245176829922.JavaMail.root@n17>
Message-ID: <4A37E9D4.9070508@tartley.com>

Hey Carlo,

Something did go wrong: Your selection will not have been saved.

You currently have to check in to something for all four slots.

I'm about to send an email out to tutors advising them to sign up for 
their own tutorials, just to fulfil this requirement.

For the moment, if you only intend to attend three, sign up for four and 
send me an email about the fourth that you won't be going to. I'll 
update the database accordingly.

Best regards,

    Jonathan


Carlo Hamalainen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Do we get an email saying which tutorials we checked in to? I checked
> in to three and got sent back to the check-in page, which feels like
> something went wrong.
>
>   

-- 
Jonathan Hartley      Made of meat.      http://tartley.com
tartley at tartley.com   +44 7737 062 225   twitter/skype: tartley



From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 22:05:11 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:05:11 -0600
Subject: [EuroPython] Weblog posted re EuroPython
Message-ID: <14e7a2380906161305hd12c480ic99d52006f1ae0b0@mail.gmail.com>

See here:
http://www.artima.com/weblogs/viewpost.jsp?thread=260578

Sorry it took so long.

-- Bruce Eckel
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From fiona at justfiona.com  Tue Jun 16 20:45:01 2009
From: fiona at justfiona.com (Fiona Burrows)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:45:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] tutorial check-in
In-Reply-To: <4A37E443.4020109@myrmidonprocess.com>
References: <46ba3d380906161119t589e4139u2d954caafbca8127@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A37E443.4020109@myrmidonprocess.com>
Message-ID: <4A37E82D.2040300@justfiona.com>

Fiona Burrows wrote:
> Carlo Hamalainen wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Do we get an email saying which tutorials we checked in to? I checked
>> in to three and got sent back to the check-in page, which feels like
>> something went wrong.
>>   
>
>
> It told me "Thanks you are attending these tutorials..." and then 
> listed them as text rather than inputs.
>
> Perhaps try again?
>
Whoops I sent this to the sender instead of sending it to the list. How 
confusing.

From theology at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 17:35:18 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:35:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <11fab4bc0906160255x37f014x3f8dd3cbfd86b46d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>
	<e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
	<11fab4bc0906160255x37f014x3f8dd3cbfd86b46d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906160835x4721fbc3v687809f2e8bc6d80@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/16 Massa, Harald Armin <chef at ghum.de>:
> Zeth,
>
> thank you for this valuable information. Additional request, maybe you have
> this information available:
>
> - WHERE do I buy tickets for the train?

>From the station on the day. Or you can buy them in advance see
http://nationalrail.co.uk/ for rail times and ticket costs.

The rate you pay for British train tickets is notoriously over-complex
compared to some countries. There are advance fairs, off-peak fairs,
concession fairs and so on. If unsure at a station, get the automatic
ticket machine to give you a price and also go to a manned booth and
ask for the price, you sometimes get different results.

> - can I pay per credit card / mastercard or do they accept Euro?

Most European Visa branded cars tend to work in the UK, Mastercard
mostly also. No one will take Euros sadly.

>   (if not: is there a normal-priced ATM available at Birmingham
> International?

ATMs in England legally have to say if they charge a withdrawal charge
for taking out money (over your normal bank's settlement fees). If it
says "this machine costs X to withdraw money" then walk to the next
machine, there are loads everywhere.

From funthyme at gmail.com  Tue Jun 16 23:12:07 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 22:12:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython registration
In-Reply-To: <4A3784E1.80100@net-ng.com>
References: <4A3784E1.80100@net-ng.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906161412q744ec524p1ee35ba49c5abc31@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Jean-Luc,

2009/6/16 Jean-Luc Carre <jean.luc.carre at net-ng.com>:
> Hi,
>
> We'd like to book for 2 people from Net-ng (corporate rate), and pay by one
> credit card.
> Could you please give us the right way to do it ?

Register each person individually, with their own data, email address
and so on, and choose Payment by Bank Transfer or Payment by Phone.

Then pay for both by:

* Bank Transfer, quoting the RCnnnnnn booking numbers
or:
* ringing us on +44 121 313 3850 - Vanessa will take your card details
and process the payment.

Best wishes!

John
--

From martin at sourceguru.net  Wed Jun 17 11:21:54 2009
From: martin at sourceguru.net (Martin Meredith)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 10:21:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Do we have any big screens not being used.
Message-ID: <1245230514.4805.1.camel@trance.local>

Just found this:-

http://visibletweets.com/

You can set it to follow a hashtag (say #europython) and leave it going.
Kinda cool, and lets the delegates have some interaction :D


From kitblake at infrae.com  Wed Jun 17 12:29:35 2009
From: kitblake at infrae.com (Kit BLAKE)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:29:35 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Questions about the BoF Point
Message-ID: <0932F0A0-0F48-4626-B4C3-4CACECAC0922@infrae.com>

Hi,
A bunch of us would like to organize a meeting for Silva users.

Is the 'BoF Point' a room? If not, is there a room/space available?

Can we put the meeting in the timetable? I can supply a description.

Thanks,
Kit


-- 
Kit BLAKE ? Infrae ? http://infrae.com/ + 31 10 243 7051


From daz at dwuk.net  Wed Jun 17 12:31:43 2009
From: daz at dwuk.net (Darren Worrall)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:31:43 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Do we have any big screens not being used.
In-Reply-To: <1245230514.4805.1.camel@trance.local>
References: <1245230514.4805.1.camel@trance.local>
Message-ID: <AE1A3B8515E7F04C961C9D90FDFE7BC5AC2B8411B8@dwuk-dc.dwuk.net>

A similar app is Flotzam:

http://www.flotzam.com/

You can set it to follow multiple sources (twitter, youtube, flickr, digg, rss etc), and there's a suitably geeky Tetris skin for it (shown on the homepage). Needs Windows though.

________________________________________
From: europython-bounces+daz=dwuk.net at python.org [europython-bounces+daz=dwuk.net at python.org] On Behalf Of Martin Meredith [martin at sourceguru.net]
Sent: 17 June 2009 10:21
To: europython at python.org
Subject: [EuroPython] Do we have any big screens not being used.

Just found this:-

http://visibletweets.com/

You can set it to follow a hashtag (say #europython) and leave it going.
Kinda cool, and lets the delegates have some interaction :D

_______________________________________________
EuroPython mailing list
EuroPython at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From michael at voidspace.org.uk  Wed Jun 17 13:29:29 2009
From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:29:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Do we have any big screens not being used.
In-Reply-To: <1245230514.4805.1.camel@trance.local>
References: <1245230514.4805.1.camel@trance.local>
Message-ID: <4A38D399.6000504@voidspace.org.uk>

Martin Meredith wrote:
> Just found this:-
>
> http://visibletweets.com/
>
> You can set it to follow a hashtag (say #europython) and leave it going.
> Kinda cool, and lets the delegates have some interaction :D
>   

+1 if we can.

Michael

> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>   


-- 
http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/


From theology at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 13:32:46 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:32:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Do we have any big screens not being used.
In-Reply-To: <4A38D399.6000504@voidspace.org.uk>
References: <1245230514.4805.1.camel@trance.local>
	<4A38D399.6000504@voidspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906170432m69ad6e50t7d35b78d1e13f11d@mail.gmail.com>

http://visibletweets.com/ Cool!

http://www.flotzam.com/ sent me to a page to get moonlight which was
uncool and yet cool that is recognised my system.

From ntoll at ntoll.org  Wed Jun 17 13:42:16 2009
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas Tollervey)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:42:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Do we have any big screens not being used.
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906170432m69ad6e50t7d35b78d1e13f11d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1245230514.4805.1.camel@trance.local>
	<4A38D399.6000504@voidspace.org.uk>
	<b1f5d7040906170432m69ad6e50t7d35b78d1e13f11d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F1949773-5165-4481-A2FE-050DE336B00F@ntoll.org>

Two other twitter visualisation tools that might prove useful:

http://www.twitterfountain.nl/ (click "adjust" to change the tag)
http://monitter.com/

On 17 Jun 2009, at 12:32, Zeth wrote:

> http://visibletweets.com/ Cool!
>
> http://www.flotzam.com/ sent me to a page to get moonlight which was
> uncool and yet cool that is recognised my system.
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython


From martin at sourceguru.net  Wed Jun 17 14:21:10 2009
From: martin at sourceguru.net (Martin Meredith)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 13:21:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Do we have any big screens not being used.
In-Reply-To: <F1949773-5165-4481-A2FE-050DE336B00F@ntoll.org>
References: <1245230514.4805.1.camel@trance.local>
	<4A38D399.6000504@voidspace.org.uk>
	<b1f5d7040906170432m69ad6e50t7d35b78d1e13f11d@mail.gmail.com>
	<F1949773-5165-4481-A2FE-050DE336B00F@ntoll.org>
Message-ID: <1245241271.4805.6.camel@trance.local>

On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 12:42 +0100, Nicholas Tollervey wrote:
> Two other twitter visualisation tools that might prove useful:
> 
> http://www.twitterfountain.nl/ (click "adjust" to change the tag)
> http://monitter.com/

I don't think that any of the others I've seen look as cool as
visibletweets.


From steve at hawkz.com  Wed Jun 17 16:53:44 2009
From: steve at hawkz.com (Stephen Hawkes)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:53:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Quick EuroPython Viral Site
Message-ID: <7DD0B0C3-3558-47FB-B80E-7D86B9C92269@hawkz.com>

Hi,

It's last minute, but hey. Hopefully might generate some hype and  
interest.

Make yourself a magical pony to stand proud as mascot to your Django  
site!

http://www.mylittledjango.com/

enjoy!

~Steve

From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 19:13:54 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 18:13:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Questions about the BoF Point
In-Reply-To: <0932F0A0-0F48-4626-B4C3-4CACECAC0922@infrae.com>
References: <0932F0A0-0F48-4626-B4C3-4CACECAC0922@infrae.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906171013s5087e6e2i1cdf71199c36a14d@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Kit,

2009/6/17 Kit BLAKE <kitblake at infrae.com>:
> Hi,
> A bunch of us would like to organize a meeting for Silva users.
>
> Is the 'BoF Point' a room? If not, is there a room/space available?

It's the bar, a room with capacity of, say 20. But we're not having
any alcohol there.

Also, there's the Open Space room.

> Can we put the meeting in the timetable?

Yes, or you can schedule on a white board at the conference.

> I can supply a description.

Send the details to europython-talks at python.org : day, time etc and
we'll schedule it.

Best wishes,

John
--

From tim at tizmoi.net  Wed Jun 17 22:27:29 2009
From: tim at tizmoi.net (Tim Couper)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:27:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906160835x4721fbc3v687809f2e8bc6d80@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>	<e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>	<11fab4bc0906160255x37f014x3f8dd3cbfd86b46d@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160835x4721fbc3v687809f2e8bc6d80@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A3951B1.2040104@tizmoi.net>

Note for future conferences - to add these and other 
transport/living-related gems onto the conference site somewhere?

Tim

Zeth wrote:
> 2009/6/16 Massa, Harald Armin <chef at ghum.de>:
>   
>> Zeth,
>>
>> thank you for this valuable information. Additional request, maybe you have
>> this information available:
>>
>> - WHERE do I buy tickets for the train?
>>     
>
> >From the station on the day. Or you can buy them in advance see
> http://nationalrail.co.uk/ for rail times and ticket costs.
>
> The rate you pay for British train tickets is notoriously over-complex
> compared to some countries. There are advance fairs, off-peak fairs,
> concession fairs and so on. If unsure at a station, get the automatic
> ticket machine to give you a price and also go to a manned booth and
> ask for the price, you sometimes get different results.
>
>   
>> - can I pay per credit card / mastercard or do they accept Euro?
>>     
>
> Most European Visa branded cars tend to work in the UK, Mastercard
> mostly also. No one will take Euros sadly.
>
>   
>>   (if not: is there a normal-priced ATM available at Birmingham
>> International?
>>     
>
> ATMs in England legally have to say if they charge a withdrawal charge
> for taking out money (over your normal bank's settlement fees). If it
> says "this machine costs X to withdraw money" then walk to the next
> machine, there are loads everywhere.
> _______________________________________________
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> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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>
>
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From tony.heskett at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 22:36:27 2009
From: tony.heskett at gmail.com (Tony Heskett)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 21:36:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906160835x4721fbc3v687809f2e8bc6d80@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>
	<e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
	<11fab4bc0906160255x37f014x3f8dd3cbfd86b46d@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160835x4721fbc3v687809f2e8bc6d80@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ca0edcf90906171336t1768659fie20764bdfc140074@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

> [ Trains stuff ]

Good comments, guys.

Worth adding that "buying a ticket at the rail station"
can easily work out 3x more expensive than selecting
a discount ticket in advance, and it's *very* annoying
to find that out only afterwards.

So as well as the links already posted, you
might try this one; and checkout the (cheap)
online advance fares please.

http://www.virgintrains.co.uk/default.aspx

-- 
Thanks,
Tony

Tony.Heskett at gmail.com

From tony.heskett at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 23:22:22 2009
From: tony.heskett at gmail.com (Tony Heskett)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:22:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <1245272191.5597.6.camel@localhost>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>
	<e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
	<11fab4bc0906160255x37f014x3f8dd3cbfd86b46d@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160835x4721fbc3v687809f2e8bc6d80@mail.gmail.com>
	<ca0edcf90906171336t1768659fie20764bdfc140074@mail.gmail.com>
	<1245272191.5597.6.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <ca0edcf90906171422s66bfd98btaeab21eb8fb96b1c@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/17 Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net>:
> Hey,
> Is there some kind of integrated transport card if I wanna spend a day
> in London or two during my stay at Birmingham?

Sure, a Travelcard for bus / tube /...

See here:

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tickets/faresandtickets/10628.aspx

-- 
Thanks,
Tony

From theology at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 23:32:05 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:32:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <ca0edcf90906171422s66bfd98btaeab21eb8fb96b1c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>
	<e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
	<11fab4bc0906160255x37f014x3f8dd3cbfd86b46d@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160835x4721fbc3v687809f2e8bc6d80@mail.gmail.com>
	<ca0edcf90906171336t1768659fie20764bdfc140074@mail.gmail.com>
	<1245272191.5597.6.camel@localhost>
	<ca0edcf90906171422s66bfd98btaeab21eb8fb96b1c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906171432y4b03bdc8paa8791021ba26d7a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/17 Tony Heskett <tony.heskett at gmail.com>:
> 2009/6/17 Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net>:
>> Hey,
>> Is there some kind of integrated transport card if I wanna spend a day
>> in London or two during my stay at Birmingham?

Don't forget that Birmingham (Britain's second biggest city) has lots
of museums and malls:

http://www.europython.eu/about/birmingham/

:-)

From solipsis at pitrou.net  Wed Jun 17 22:56:31 2009
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:56:31 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <ca0edcf90906171336t1768659fie20764bdfc140074@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>
	<e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
	<11fab4bc0906160255x37f014x3f8dd3cbfd86b46d@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160835x4721fbc3v687809f2e8bc6d80@mail.gmail.com>
	<ca0edcf90906171336t1768659fie20764bdfc140074@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1245272191.5597.6.camel@localhost>

Hey,

Le mercredi 17 juin 2009 ? 21:36 +0100, Tony Heskett a ?crit :
> Worth adding that "buying a ticket at the rail station"
> can easily work out 3x more expensive than selecting
> a discount ticket in advance, and it's *very* annoying
> to find that out only afterwards.

Is there some kind of integrated transport card if I wanna spend a day
in London or two during my stay at Birmingham?

cheers

Antoine.



From theology at gmail.com  Wed Jun 17 23:07:42 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 22:07:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <ca0edcf90906171336t1768659fie20764bdfc140074@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>
	<e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
	<11fab4bc0906160255x37f014x3f8dd3cbfd86b46d@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160835x4721fbc3v687809f2e8bc6d80@mail.gmail.com>
	<ca0edcf90906171336t1768659fie20764bdfc140074@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906171407i4047c077vd6eb678086d8f01@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/17 Tony Heskett <tony.heskett at gmail.com>:
> Worth adding that "buying a ticket at the rail station"
> can easily work out 3x more expensive than selecting
> a discount ticket in advance, and it's *very* annoying
> to find that out only afterwards.
>
> So as well as the links already posted, you
> might try this one; and checkout the (cheap)
> online advance fares please.
>
> http://www.virgintrains.co.uk/default.aspx

Virgin Trains and London Midland operate services to/from London
Euston. Chiltern Railways operate services to/from London Marylebone.

http://nationalrail.co.uk will tell you all of them, and the prices.

From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 00:21:26 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 23:21:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906171407i4047c077vd6eb678086d8f01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>
	<e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
	<11fab4bc0906160255x37f014x3f8dd3cbfd86b46d@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160835x4721fbc3v687809f2e8bc6d80@mail.gmail.com>
	<ca0edcf90906171336t1768659fie20764bdfc140074@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906171407i4047c077vd6eb678086d8f01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906171521rb16438di7df84c085ef21fbb@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/17 Zeth <theology at gmail.com>:
> 2009/6/17 Tony Heskett <tony.heskett at gmail.com>:
>> Worth adding that "buying a ticket at the rail station"
>> can easily work out 3x more expensive than selecting
>> a discount ticket in advance, and it's *very* annoying
>> to find that out only afterwards.
>>
>> So as well as the links already posted, you
>> might try this one; and checkout the (cheap)
>> online advance fares please.
>>
>> http://www.virgintrains.co.uk/default.aspx
>
> Virgin Trains and London Midland operate services to/from London
> Euston. Chiltern Railways operate services to/from London Marylebone.

and this information has been on the travel page of the website for months!

John
--

> http://nationalrail.co.uk will tell you all of them, and the prices.
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 18 01:00:14 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:00:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Do we have any big screens not being used.
In-Reply-To: <1245230514.4805.1.camel@trance.local>
References: <1245230514.4805.1.camel@trance.local>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906171600v3e2b9e66ga05dd67782614010@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

We have a 32 inch monitor at the Emporium, and this could be used.

John
--


2009/6/17 Martin Meredith <martin at sourceguru.net>:
> Just found this:-
>
> http://visibletweets.com/
>
> You can set it to follow a hashtag (say #europython) and leave it going.
> Kinda cool, and lets the delegates have some interaction :D
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
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From krzysztof.wilczynski at bcs.org.uk  Thu Jun 18 21:08:58 2009
From: krzysztof.wilczynski at bcs.org.uk (Krzysztof Wilczynski)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:08:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Talks and presentations from previous conferences
Message-ID: <dd71a3d00906181208g3fbb9720xc13533da1536a8c7@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

I am looking for talks and presentations - actually, for audio and
video files as well - form previous conferences. Perhaps somebody have
them in the personal archive and will be willing to share, so I can
put them on the conference ?take away? CD.

Thank you for help in advance!

Warmest regards,
Krzysztof Wilczynski

From krzysztof.wilczynski at bcs.org.uk  Thu Jun 18 21:15:45 2009
From: krzysztof.wilczynski at bcs.org.uk (Krzysztof Wilczynski)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 20:15:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Looking for interesting content
Message-ID: <dd71a3d00906181215la00dc16v620833a649f054c0@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings,

I am looking for anything which in your opinion is interesting or
simply worth adding to the ?take away? CD. If you have an idea about
i.e. free books or manuals, podcasts you think might be of an interest
to others? actually anything you consider interesting or simply ?must
have? form python hacker point of view, then please let me know
without hesitation! At the moment I am gathering content for the CD at
the moment and I would love your feedback.

Thank you for help and ideas in advance!

Kind regards,
Krzysztof Wilczynski

From paul at boddie.org.uk  Thu Jun 18 22:48:14 2009
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:48:14 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talks and presentations from previous conferences
In-Reply-To: <dd71a3d00906181208g3fbb9720xc13533da1536a8c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dd71a3d00906181208g3fbb9720xc13533da1536a8c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200906182248.14211.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Thursday 18 June 2009 21:08:58 Krzysztof Wilczynski wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I am looking for talks and presentations - actually, for audio and
> video files as well - form previous conferences. Perhaps somebody have
> them in the personal archive and will be willing to share, so I can
> put them on the conference ?take away? CD.

Here are last year's uploaded materials:

http://www.europython2008.eu/TalkMaterials

For previous years, see this page:

http://www.europython2008.eu/About_EuroPython

I'm not sure whether people would be displeased at having their talks 
distributed on a CD, but then they did upload them to the EuroPython site for 
the whole Internet to consume, and this is for the EuroPython CD, after all.

(Mandatory grumble about materials licensing and the lack of obvious linking 
to old materials redacted.)

Paul

From reinout at vanrees.org  Sat Jun 20 14:33:20 2009
From: reinout at vanrees.org (Reinout van Rees)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:33:20 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talks and presentations from previous conferences
In-Reply-To: <dd71a3d00906181208g3fbb9720xc13533da1536a8c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dd71a3d00906181208g3fbb9720xc13533da1536a8c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2b52d5bf0906200533w30102bceoa9c9e3d191c6dca8@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Krzysztof
Wilczynski<krzysztof.wilczynski at bcs.org.uk> wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> I am looking for talks and presentations - actually, for audio and
> video files as well - form previous conferences. Perhaps somebody have
> them in the personal archive and will be willing to share, so I can
> put them on the conference ?take away? CD.

The only thing I have is my own textual summaries:

http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/tags/europython2005.html and
http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/tags/europython2006.html

There are bound to be others who blogged, too.  What are you looking for?

Reinout

-- 
Reinout van Rees - reinout at vanrees.org
http://reinout.vanrees.org/ - http://www.thehealthagency.com
"I can be googled, therefore I am."

From mikeyp at snaplogic.com  Sat Jun 20 20:25:00 2009
From: mikeyp at snaplogic.com (Michael Pittaro)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:25:00 -0700
Subject: [EuroPython] Talks and presentations from previous conferences
In-Reply-To: <2b52d5bf0906200533w30102bceoa9c9e3d191c6dca8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dd71a3d00906181208g3fbb9720xc13533da1536a8c7@mail.gmail.com>
	<2b52d5bf0906200533w30102bceoa9c9e3d191c6dca8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A3D297C.5010100@snaplogic.com>

Reinout van Rees wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 9:08 PM, Krzysztof
> Wilczynski<krzysztof.wilczynski at bcs.org.uk> wrote:
>> Greetings,
>>
>> I am looking for talks and presentations - actually, for audio and
>> video files as well - form previous conferences. Perhaps somebody have
>> them in the personal archive and will be willing to share, so I can
>> put them on the conference ?take away? CD.
> 
> The only thing I have is my own textual summaries:
> 
> http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/tags/europython2005.html and
> http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/tags/europython2006.html
> 
> There are bound to be others who blogged, too.  What are you looking for?
> 
> Reinout
> 
>

Krzysztof,

Most 2008 materials were uploaded to :
http://www.europython2008.eu/TalkMaterials

You will find more references from:

http://delicious.com/tag/europython2008
http://delicious.com/tag/europython+2008

http://delicious.com/tag/europython

-- 
Mike Pittaro
Co-Founder                      Snaplogic, Inc.
mikeyp at snaplogic.com            http://www.snaplogic.com
SnapLogic was named a Cool Vendor in Data Integration for 2009
http://tinyurl.com/snaplogic-is-cool


From tobixen at gmail.com  Sat Jun 20 23:23:56 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:23:56 +0400
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906171521rb16438di7df84c085ef21fbb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>
	<e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
	<11fab4bc0906160255x37f014x3f8dd3cbfd86b46d@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160835x4721fbc3v687809f2e8bc6d80@mail.gmail.com>
	<ca0edcf90906171336t1768659fie20764bdfc140074@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906171407i4047c077vd6eb678086d8f01@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906171521rb16438di7df84c085ef21fbb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef2af3100906201423ibbfa9e2m82aa7379aa8bb86d@mail.gmail.com>

Just to add some more noise to this thread ;-)

I tried booking the train tickets from midland, virgin and chiltern just now.

Midland offered a trip for 19.50 ... but they insisted on shipping
tickets to a postal address (!), so I aborted the process.

Virgin was expensive when booking through their pages, but when
booking through the national rail service web pages, I got offered
tickets for 21 GBP.  Registration was a real hassle, and when I came
to the payment page it didn't want to accept any of my credit cards.

Chiltern offered (through the national rail service web pages) tickets
for 19.50 GBP, and I finally managed to book those tickets.  I had to
click a special check-box for "overtaken trains" to see this journey
at all - this is a slow train.

From funthyme at gmail.com  Sun Jun 21 00:08:09 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 23:08:09 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906201423ibbfa9e2m82aa7379aa8bb86d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160214gaf369d1r28c34d4119cb3a2c@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160221i2bba7c2n4e136c0c8414cf79@mail.gmail.com>
	<e3e180dc0906160230h7eb8edf2t16f4c6a0f5728b5f@mail.gmail.com>
	<11fab4bc0906160255x37f014x3f8dd3cbfd86b46d@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906160835x4721fbc3v687809f2e8bc6d80@mail.gmail.com>
	<ca0edcf90906171336t1768659fie20764bdfc140074@mail.gmail.com>
	<b1f5d7040906171407i4047c077vd6eb678086d8f01@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906171521rb16438di7df84c085ef21fbb@mail.gmail.com>
	<ef2af3100906201423ibbfa9e2m82aa7379aa8bb86d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906201508x53025e89t291acff3401e78cf@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

2009/6/20 Tobias Brox <tobixen at gmail.com>

> Just to add some more noise to this thread ;-)
>
> I tried booking the train tickets from midland, virgin and chiltern just
> now.
>
> Midland offered a trip for 19.50 ... but they insisted on shipping
> tickets to a postal address (!), so I aborted the process.
>
> Virgin was expensive when booking through their pages, but when
> booking through the national rail service web pages, I got offered
> tickets for 21 GBP.  Registration was a real hassle, and when I came
> to the payment page it didn't want to accept any of my credit cards.
>
> Chiltern offered (through the national rail service web pages) tickets
> for 19.50 GBP, and I finally managed to book those tickets.  I had to
> click a special check-box for "overtaken trains" to see this journey
> at all - this is a slow train.


I travel between Birmingham and London often, and I book through
http://www.trainline.co.uk
I get on OK with this site, but I'm used to it. The sites range from poor to
really bad.

Best wishes,

John
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From tobixen at gmail.com  Sat Jun 20 23:26:17 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 01:26:17 +0400
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906201423ibbfa9e2m82aa7379aa8bb86d@mail.gmail.com>
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Ah, adding some more noise ;-)  The prices quoted were from London
with return-ticket - so currently it's possible to book train tickets
for 20 quids from London to Birmingham and back again, and I'd
recommend not to waste time on Virgin.  I rather spend half an hour
more on the train than to spend half an hour fighting with the ticket
booking ;-)

From C.A.Brewster at aston.ac.uk  Sun Jun 21 09:44:27 2009
From: C.A.Brewster at aston.ac.uk (Christopher Brewster)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 08:44:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906201426x759420c8tfad8df97b05b3568@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
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The site I sue usually is http://www.nationalexpresseastcoast.com/
which is a slightly better designed site. Even though it is run by the  
EastCoast line company it offers tickets for everywhere.

You should be able to book tickets and collect them using you card +  
the code they give you.
However, given that the card readers seem to demand chip+pin cards I  
suspect this may make things more difficult for visitors from outside  
the UK.

Have people had any success coming from abroad and booking tickets in  
advance and then picking them up at the station?

Christopher


*****************************************************
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On 20 Jun 2009, at 22:26, Tobias Brox wrote:

Ah, adding some more noise ;-)  The prices quoted were from London
with return-ticket - so currently it's possible to book train tickets
for 20 quids from London to Birmingham and back again, and I'd
recommend not to waste time on Virgin.  I rather spend half an hour
more on the train than to spend half an hour fighting with the ticket
booking ;-)
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http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython


From tug at wilson.co.uk  Sun Jun 21 11:24:00 2009
From: tug at wilson.co.uk (John Wilson)
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:24:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] London - Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906201423ibbfa9e2m82aa7379aa8bb86d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906151552p67745c11gc20a7d0a97824913@mail.gmail.com>
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On 20 Jun 2009, at 22:23, Tobias Brox wrote:


> Chiltern offered (through the national rail service web pages) tickets
> for 19.50 GBP, and I finally managed to book those tickets.  I had to
> click a special check-box for "overtaken trains" to see this journey
> at all - this is a slow train.

Chiltern are my local rail company - they are a surpassingly (for the  
UK) well run train company. The trip from London Marylebone to  
Birmingham Snow Hill is not as fast as from London Euston to  
Birmingham New Street but you will almost certainly get a seat and the  
train will depart and arrive pretty much on time.


John Wilson

From jon at willowit.com.au  Mon Jun 22 13:42:36 2009
From: jon at willowit.com.au (Jon Wilson)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:42:36 +1000
Subject: [EuroPython] I can't attend the conference - is it possible to
	recordings of selected talks
Message-ID: <1046368106.20090622214236@willowit.com.au>

HI europython,

I cannot attend the conference and was wondering if it is possible to
get recordings of selected talks?

-- 
Thanks,
Jon Wilson
WillowIT
Australia

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From michael at voidspace.org.uk  Mon Jun 22 15:02:01 2009
From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:02:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] I can't attend the conference - is it possible to
 recordings of selected talks
In-Reply-To: <1046368106.20090622214236@willowit.com.au>
References: <1046368106.20090622214236@willowit.com.au>
Message-ID: <4A3F80C9.40502@voidspace.org.uk>

Jon Wilson wrote:
> HI europython,
>
> I cannot attend the conference and was wondering if it is possible to
> get recordings of selected talks?
>
>   
We are intending to do (audio only) recordings of all the presentations 
and making them available, along with all talk materials that we get, 
after the conference.

Michael

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From theology at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 15:27:31 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:27:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] I can't attend the conference - is it possible to
	recordings of selected talks
In-Reply-To: <1046368106.20090622214236@willowit.com.au>
References: <1046368106.20090622214236@willowit.com.au>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906220627h17b8a750mf6655fd4e84d34b7@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/22 Jon Wilson <jon at willowit.com.au>:
> HI europython,
>
> I cannot attend the conference and was wondering if it is possible to
> get recordings of selected talks?

We try but no guarantees. In 2010 we have the conference in the same
venue, some speakers will give updated talks on similar subjects.

From fiona at myrmidonprocess.com  Mon Jun 22 16:08:57 2009
From: fiona at myrmidonprocess.com (Fiona Burrows)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:08:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Which tutorials we signed up for
Message-ID: <4A3F9079.8070204@myrmidonprocess.com>

I'm a moron.

I can't quite remember which tutorials I signed up for, I know I had a 
couple of hard decisions to make so I can't quite work out what my 
eeny-meeny-miney-mo decision was.

Is there any chance I can find out which ones I signed up to? I assume 
this data is saved somewhere, so someone must know!

Thanks to anyone who can help.

- Fiona "Will-write-everything-down-in-future" Burrows

From theology at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 16:21:08 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:21:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Which tutorials we signed up for
In-Reply-To: <4A3F9079.8070204@myrmidonprocess.com>
References: <4A3F9079.8070204@myrmidonprocess.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906220721y194d316dib840672c77b7251f@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Fiona,

> Is there any chance I can find out which ones I signed up to? I assume this
> data is saved somewhere, so someone must know!

Someone == Zeth

Nevow and Stan.
Hands-on testing with TextTest.
Reusable components in PyGTK.
Rapid testing with py.test.

Best Wishes,
Zeth

2009/6/22 Fiona Burrows <fiona at myrmidonprocess.com>:
> I'm a moron.
>
> I can't quite remember which tutorials I signed up for, I know I had a
> couple of hard decisions to make so I can't quite work out what my
> eeny-meeny-miney-mo decision was.
>
> Is there any chance I can find out which ones I signed up to? I assume this
> data is saved somewhere, so someone must know!
>
> Thanks to anyone who can help.
>
> - Fiona "Will-write-everything-down-in-future" Burrows
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From fiona at myrmidonprocess.com  Mon Jun 22 16:22:07 2009
From: fiona at myrmidonprocess.com (Fiona Burrows)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:22:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Which tutorials we signed up for
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906220721y194d316dib840672c77b7251f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A3F9079.8070204@myrmidonprocess.com>
	<b1f5d7040906220721y194d316dib840672c77b7251f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A3F938F.4000008@myrmidonprocess.com>

Zeth wrote:
> Hello Fiona,
>
> Someone == Zeth
>   
Thanks, a bunch, you're the best. :)

Fiona

From tobixen at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 18:44:23 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:44:23 +0400
Subject: [EuroPython] sharing hotel room
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906041404g5d450628h62103b70a9284ab7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b52d5bf0906041054r5dffe67bif1ec080045ac05c2@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906041404g5d450628h62103b70a9284ab7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef2af3100906220944t11348494j78ec1a33aea4a1c1@mail.gmail.com>

> 2009/6/4 Reinout van Rees <reinout at vanrees.org>:
>> Or should I notify them?
>
> There is no need, but you need to arrive first!

My room mate arrives before me (to the premier inn/channel side) ...
should I tell him to wait in the lobby, or can it be arranged? ;-)

From funthyme at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 19:04:10 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:04:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] sharing hotel room
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906220944t11348494j78ec1a33aea4a1c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b52d5bf0906041054r5dffe67bif1ec080045ac05c2@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

2009/6/22 Tobias Brox <tobixen at gmail.com>

> > 2009/6/4 Reinout van Rees <reinout at vanrees.org>:
> >> Or should I notify them?
> >
> > There is no need, but you need to arrive first!
>
> My room mate arrives before me (to the premier inn/channel side) ...
> should I tell him to wait in the lobby, or can it be arranged? ;-)


email the hotel at BirminghamCityCentre.PI at premierinn.com and tell them that
you are booked in under our group booking and give them Reinout's name, say
he will be arriving first and let him have your key.

Do it after Wednesday, when they should have our list with your name on it.
Let me if you have any problems.

best wishes,

John
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From sorin.sbarnea at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 19:19:24 2009
From: sorin.sbarnea at gmail.com (Sorin Sbarnea)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:19:24 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Room sharing at Etap 27th-1st
Message-ID: <d77cce480906221019h50dc390fgd89f364d20593198@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have one or two places available in my room at Etap Hotel from 27/6
to 1/7 (leaving hotel on 2nd).
Anyone interested?

--
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From theology at gmail.com  Mon Jun 22 19:45:40 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 18:45:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] sharing hotel room
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906220944t11348494j78ec1a33aea4a1c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b52d5bf0906041054r5dffe67bif1ec080045ac05c2@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906041404g5d450628h62103b70a9284ab7@mail.gmail.com>
	<ef2af3100906220944t11348494j78ec1a33aea4a1c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906221045m23ab21b7wb734ef8d71409f9a@mail.gmail.com>

> My room mate arrives before me (to the premier inn/channel side) ...
> should I tell him to wait in the lobby, or can it be arranged? ;-)

He can always go party in broad street ;)

From sschwarzer at sschwarzer.net  Tue Jun 23 21:07:28 2009
From: sschwarzer at sschwarzer.net (Stefan Schwarzer)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:07:28 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Choosing tutorials
Message-ID: <4A4127F0.70404@sschwarzer.net>

Hello,

Initially I've booked the conference without tutorials, but
now would like to come to some of them. It seems I can go
through the registration process and just select the tutorial
days, but I didn't find a way to nor information on how I can
choose the tutorials I'd like to visit before coming to the
page where I have to enter my name, address etc.

Assuming the tutorials have an upper limit of participants,
it would probably be a good idea if I was able to check if
these individual tutorials are full before booking the
tutorial days.

How does the registration work? Or is it already closed
without being reflected in the overall registration process?

Confused regards ;-)
Stefan

From theology at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 00:12:13 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:12:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Choosing tutorials
In-Reply-To: <4A4127F0.70404@sschwarzer.net>
References: <4A4127F0.70404@sschwarzer.net>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906231512i7b957030mfef4fbc206986e07@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Stefan,

2009/6/23 Stefan Schwarzer <sschwarzer at sschwarzer.net>:
> Initially I've booked the conference without tutorials, but
> now would like to come to some of them. It seems I can go
> through the registration process and just select the tutorial
> days,

Correct. When you have booked for tutorial days, you will be sent a
one-time use URL in order to check-in. Just like an airline, you book
a ticket first, then later you check-in and choose where to sit.

> Assuming the tutorials have an upper limit of participants,
> it would probably be a good idea if I was able to check if
> these individual tutorials are full before booking the
> tutorial days.

You didn't say which ones?

From sschwarzer at sschwarzer.net  Wed Jun 24 06:26:02 2009
From: sschwarzer at sschwarzer.net (Stefan Schwarzer)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:26:02 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Choosing tutorials
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906231512i7b957030mfef4fbc206986e07@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A4127F0.70404@sschwarzer.net>
	<b1f5d7040906231512i7b957030mfef4fbc206986e07@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A41AADA.6020304@sschwarzer.net>

Hi Zeth,

On 2009-06-24 00:12, Zeth wrote:
> 2009/6/23 Stefan Schwarzer <sschwarzer at sschwarzer.net>:
>> Initially I've booked the conference without tutorials, but
>> now would like to come to some of them. It seems I can go
>> through the registration process and just select the tutorial
>> days,
> 
> Correct. When you have booked for tutorial days, you will be sent a
> one-time use URL in order to check-in. Just like an airline, you book
> a ticket first, then later you check-in and choose where to sit.

That's ok given I don't care much about where I sit.
On the other hand, if I book the tutorials I'd like
to know in advance whether the ones I'm interested in
are still open for more participants. :-)

>> Assuming the tutorials have an upper limit of participants,
>> it would probably be a good idea if I was able to check if
>> these individual tutorials are full before booking the
>> tutorial days.
> 
> You didn't say which ones?

I thought there was some automated means on the
website which would save you some work, and thus I
would have had to go there anyway. :)

But since you ask, I'm particularly interested in

- Kamelia pragmatic concurrency (alternative: sleep
  longer ;-) )
- JavaScript for Python users (alternative: Using
  Python's turtle to teach)
- Pyjamas: simple RIA web apps (alternatives:
  Persistent objects with ZODB; Rapid testing with
  py.test)

On this occasion: Many thanks to those who organize
this conference, including answering this awful lot
of questions on the list. :-)

Best regards,
Stefan

From jan.ulrich at hasecke.com  Wed Jun 24 07:23:29 2009
From: jan.ulrich at hasecke.com (Jan Ulrich Hasecke)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:23:29 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Travel recommendation
Message-ID: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>

Hello,

we arrive with four persons at the airport of Birmingham. What is  
cheper? To got with train or bus to the city or use a taxi directly to  
the hotel?

Mit freundlichen Gr??en
Jan Ulrich Hasecke

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From bav853 at bham.ac.uk  Wed Jun 24 09:52:26 2009
From: bav853 at bham.ac.uk (Bhima A van der Molen)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 07:52:26 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Travel recommendation
In-Reply-To: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
References: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
Message-ID: <2049415365-1245829955-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-890430680-@bxe1006.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>

Hello,

In my experience the train is cheaper. It will take you from the airport to New Street Station.  However this does depend on where your hotel is.

Bhima



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-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Ulrich Hasecke <jan.ulrich at hasecke.com>

Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:23:29 
To: europython at python.org<europython at python.org>
Subject: [EuroPython] Travel recommendation


Hello,

we arrive with four persons at the airport of Birmingham. What is  
cheper? To got with train or bus to the city or use a taxi directly to  
the hotel?

Mit freundlichen Gr??en
Jan Ulrich Hasecke

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From jan.ulrich at hasecke.com  Wed Jun 24 10:09:40 2009
From: jan.ulrich at hasecke.com (Jan Ulrich Hasecke)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:09:40 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Travel recommendation
In-Reply-To: <2049415365-1245829955-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-890430680-@bxe1006.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
References: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
	<2049415365-1245829955-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-890430680-@bxe1006.bisx.produk.on.blackberry>
Message-ID: <41E5D64B-75ED-4AE9-99D6-2CE9018184C2@hasecke.com>


Am 24.06.2009 um 09:52 schrieb Bhima A van der Molen:

> In my experience the train is cheaper. It will take you from the  
> airport to New Street Station.  However this does depend on where  
> your hotel is.


The train to New Street seems to be the best option, though we might  
have to take a taxi from there to the Etap Hotel or have a good  
walk. ;-)

Mit freundlichen Gr??en
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From duncan.parkes at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 10:10:25 2009
From: duncan.parkes at gmail.com (Duncan Parkes)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:10:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Travel recommendation
In-Reply-To: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
References: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
Message-ID: <fd16b1e40906240110l322b2034j3158e1641a882274@mail.gmail.com>

> we arrive with four persons at the airport of Birmingham. What is cheper? To
> got with train or bus to the city or use a taxi directly to the hotel?

If you're travelling at an off-peak time, then four of you can get the
train for the cost of two people with a groupsave ticket (ask the
ticket office at the station). I reckon this will be cheapest.

Cheers,

Duncan

From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Wed Jun 24 10:19:36 2009
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:19:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Choosing tutorials
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906231512i7b957030mfef4fbc206986e07@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A4127F0.70404@sschwarzer.net>
	<b1f5d7040906231512i7b957030mfef4fbc206986e07@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A41E198.5030406@simplistix.co.uk>

Zeth wrote:
> Hello Stefan,
> 
> 2009/6/23 Stefan Schwarzer <sschwarzer at sschwarzer.net>:
>> Initially I've booked the conference without tutorials, but
>> now would like to come to some of them. It seems I can go
>> through the registration process and just select the tutorial
>> days,
> 
> Correct. When you have booked for tutorial days, you will be sent a
> one-time use URL in order to check-in. Just like an airline, you book
> a ticket first, then later you check-in and choose where to sit.

Hmm, I don't think that analogy holds true. The current system is a bit 
like buying a ticket without knowing the destination and, indeed, having 
to buy 4 tickets even if you can only fly on two of the dates.

Hopefully something we can work on for next year...

Chris

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From kitblake at infrae.com  Wed Jun 24 10:19:41 2009
From: kitblake at infrae.com (Kit BLAKE)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:19:41 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Travel recommendation
In-Reply-To: <fd16b1e40906240110l322b2034j3158e1641a882274@mail.gmail.com>
References: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
	<fd16b1e40906240110l322b2034j3158e1641a882274@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <179D1F23-4B5D-401A-BC9F-7D94DC176E49@infrae.com>

On 24 Jun 2009, at 10:10, Duncan Parkes wrote:

>> we arrive with four persons at the airport of Birmingham. What is  
>> cheper? To
>> got with train or bus to the city or use a taxi directly to the  
>> hotel?
>
> If you're travelling at an off-peak time, then four of you can get the
> train for the cost of two people with a groupsave ticket (ask the
> ticket office at the station). I reckon this will be cheapest.

This is a good tip. EuroPython people who arrive at the airport should  
look around for others, and get groupsave tickets.

Kit


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From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 10:14:43 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:14:43 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Travel recommendation
In-Reply-To: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
References: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906240114s101fc25fmecc626fc0dd800e@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!

2009/6/24 Jan Ulrich Hasecke <jan.ulrich at hasecke.com>

> Hello,
>
> we arrive with four persons at the airport of Birmingham. What is cheper?
> To got with train or bus to the city or use a taxi directly to the hotel?


Take the Rail/Air Link to Birmingham International train station ( 1 minute
)
Take a train to Birmingham New Street Station (10 minutes)
Walk to your hotel (10 minutes)

A taxi will be quicker, and most taxi drivers are OK, but some may rip you
off.

You can take a bus as well, but have a longer walk to your hotel.

If you use a taxi, it's probably best to go to the station via the Rail/Air
link and take a taxi there (less likely to be ripped off than the airport).

John
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From russel.winder at concertant.com  Wed Jun 24 10:43:14 2009
From: russel.winder at concertant.com (Russel Winder)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:43:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Travel recommendation
In-Reply-To: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
References: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
Message-ID: <1245832994.4760.19.camel@launcelot.russel.org.uk>

On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 07:23 +0200, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> we arrive with four persons at the airport of Birmingham. What is  
> cheper? To got with train or bus to the city or use a taxi directly to  
> the hotel?

I would recommend getting the train from Birmingham International to
Birmingham New Street and then deciding on walk/taxi from there.

Not only is it very likely to be cheaper it may well be quicker as well.

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From sgbirch at imsmail.org  Wed Jun 24 10:11:55 2009
From: sgbirch at imsmail.org (Stephen Birch)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:11:55 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Can I book only one day of tutorials?
Message-ID: <4A41DFCB.7000506@imsmail.org>

Due to a family commitment I am unable to attend the tutorials on Sunday.

The web site doesn't seem to have an option for paying for only one day 
of tutorials, is that an option?

Regards,

Steve

From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 10:58:53 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:58:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Can I book only one day of tutorials?
In-Reply-To: <4A41DFCB.7000506@imsmail.org>
References: <4A41DFCB.7000506@imsmail.org>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906240158s69f48de6x6e58c5448e36c664@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/24 Stephen Birch <sgbirch at imsmail.org>

> Due to a family commitment I am unable to attend the tutorials on Sunday.
>
> The web site doesn't seem to have an option for paying for only one day of
> tutorials, is that an option?


Sorry, no.

But you could stay over for the first conference day, just let us know if
you want to do this.

Best wishes,

John
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From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Wed Jun 24 11:04:54 2009
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:04:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Travel recommendation
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906240114s101fc25fmecc626fc0dd800e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
	<ff8a32f0906240114s101fc25fmecc626fc0dd800e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A41EC36.7010800@simplistix.co.uk>

John Pinner wrote:
> A taxi will be quicker, and most taxi drivers are OK, but some may rip 
> you off.

Do we know what the fare should be?
I've often found that taxi drivers rapidly back down when they're 
presented with a price that's known to be accurate...

Chris

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From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Wed Jun 24 10:19:18 2009
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:19:18 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Travel recommendation
In-Reply-To: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
References: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
Message-ID: <op.uv0r2gr25mynk9@fuchsia.local>

Am 24.06.2009, 07:23 Uhr, schrieb Jan Ulrich Hasecke  
<jan.ulrich at hasecke.com>:

> Hello,
> we arrive with four persons at the airport of Birmingham. What is  
> cheper? To got with train or bus to the city or use a taxi directly to  
> the hotel?

Hiya Juh,

the airport is quite a way from the city centre and taxis in the UK are  
quite expensive especially as at airports you can only use black cabs.  
Fortunately Brum is unusual in actually having a train station at the  
airport so you're almost certainly better off getting the train.

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From solipsis at pitrou.net  Wed Jun 24 12:08:44 2009
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:08:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] After the payment?
Message-ID: <1245838124.5313.5.camel@localhost>


Hi people,

What comes next now that my bank transfer should have been accepted? Do
I have anything special to tell the hotel when I arrive on Sunday?

cheers

Antoine.



From j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk  Wed Jun 24 12:26:02 2009
From: j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk (Jonathan Bowlas)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:26:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial Registration
Message-ID: <8d37bc060906240326v14650f6dx69979b8535c5417a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

How do I register for the tutorials - my colleague and I booked quite
some time ago for the conference and tutorials but have not recieved
any one-time use URL for reserving places on the tutorials we'd like
to attend.

What should we do, please advise.

Jon Bowlas.

From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 12:37:23 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:37:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Choosing tutorials
In-Reply-To: <4A41AADA.6020304@sschwarzer.net>
References: <4A4127F0.70404@sschwarzer.net>
	<b1f5d7040906231512i7b957030mfef4fbc206986e07@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A41AADA.6020304@sschwarzer.net>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906240337m430ce3a0ydac85d290c9d742b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/24 Stefan Schwarzer <sschwarzer at sschwarzer.net>

> Hi Zeth,
>
> On 2009-06-24 00:12, Zeth wrote:
> > 2009/6/23 Stefan Schwarzer <sschwarzer at sschwarzer.net>:
> >> Initially I've booked the conference without tutorials, but
> >> now would like to come to some of them. It seems I can go
> >> through the registration process and just select the tutorial
> >> days,
> >
> > Correct. When you have booked for tutorial days, you will be sent a
> > one-time use URL in order to check-in. Just like an airline, you book
> > a ticket first, then later you check-in and choose where to sit.
>
> That's ok given I don't care much about where I sit.
> On the other hand, if I book the tutorials I'd like
> to know in advance whether the ones I'm interested in
> are still open for more participants. :-)
>

They are all open: we have pro-rated the checkins and assigned suitable room
sizes - I hope ;-)

Best wishes,

John
--


> >> Assuming the tutorials have an upper limit of participants,
> >> it would probably be a good idea if I was able to check if
> >> these individual tutorials are full before booking the
> >> tutorial days.
> >
> > You didn't say which ones?
>
> I thought there was some automated means on the
> website which would save you some work, and thus I
> would have had to go there anyway. :)
>
> But since you ask, I'm particularly interested in
>
> - Kamelia pragmatic concurrency (alternative: sleep
>  longer ;-) )
> - JavaScript for Python users (alternative: Using
>  Python's turtle to teach)
> - Pyjamas: simple RIA web apps (alternatives:
>  Persistent objects with ZODB; Rapid testing with
>  py.test)
>
> On this occasion: Many thanks to those who organize
> this conference, including answering this awful lot
> of questions on the list. :-)
>
> Best regards,
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From dougal85 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 12:37:24 2009
From: dougal85 at gmail.com (Dougal Matthews)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:37:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Car Parking
Message-ID: <7151bdf60906240337j482654d7u2aa0f1941ed93f94@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm staying just outside Birmingham for the conference.
What is the car parking like in the area or would I be best to get the train
(from leamington spa)?

Cheers,
Dougal

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From aafshar at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 12:38:47 2009
From: aafshar at gmail.com (Ali Afshar)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:38:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Car Parking
In-Reply-To: <7151bdf60906240337j482654d7u2aa0f1941ed93f94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7151bdf60906240337j482654d7u2aa0f1941ed93f94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A420237.6030003@gmail.com>

Dougal Matthews wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm staying just outside Birmingham for the conference.
>
> What is the car parking like in the area or would I be best to get the 
> train (from leamington spa)?
>
Hi Dougal,

This is not an official answer, but I found car parking to be an 
absolute nightmare, I wouldn't bring a car into Birmingham unless I had 
to (but then I am a small-town boy, and these things might be relative).

Ali

From me at byron.me.uk  Wed Jun 24 11:12:49 2009
From: me at byron.me.uk (Byron Schlemmer)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:12:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 videos?
Message-ID: <71888cb20906240212wef4c5fdlfdf33f7805ac0cde@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Will any videos be taken of EuroPython 2009, specifically the
keynotes? Will they be made available online, for a nominal fee
perhaps?

-- 

    byron

From Clive.Darke at qa.com  Wed Jun 24 12:48:05 2009
From: Clive.Darke at qa.com (Clive.Darke at qa.com)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:48:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Car Parking
References: <7151bdf60906240337j482654d7u2aa0f1941ed93f94@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A420237.6030003@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C8A6B342CDC4EE4DA20023B8D09391EE033DD2A2@ASL-VMAIL.interquad.com>

There is an underground car-park beneath the Crown Plaza Hotel which is very close to the conference centre (see the pdf map on the PyCon website).  Pricey though.
 
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Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Car Parking



Dougal Matthews wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm staying just outside Birmingham for the conference.
>
> What is the car parking like in the area or would I be best to get the
> train (from leamington spa)?
>
Hi Dougal,

This is not an official answer, but I found car parking to be an
absolute nightmare, I wouldn't bring a car into Birmingham unless I had
to (but then I am a small-town boy, and these things might be relative).

Ali
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 13:02:30 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:02:30 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] After the payment?
In-Reply-To: <1245838124.5313.5.camel@localhost>
References: <1245838124.5313.5.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906240402h473086a0g3261324e53792ac8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/24 Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net>

>
> Hi people,
>
> What comes next now that my bank transfer should have been accepted?


Nothing, you just come :-)


> Do
> I have anything special to tell the hotel when I arrive on Sunday?


No, just your name - they know about you and you are booked in.

Best wishes,

John
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>
>
> cheers
>
> Antoine.
>
>
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From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Wed Jun 24 13:04:14 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:04:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 videos?
In-Reply-To: <71888cb20906240212wef4c5fdlfdf33f7805ac0cde@mail.gmail.com>
References: <71888cb20906240212wef4c5fdlfdf33f7805ac0cde@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e4e51a80906240404s59bf1a85o2fb28d7a1ba0503@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Not unless someone very organised and enthusiastic takes up the mantle now.

We will be edeavouring to record and publish all talks, although when
they get published is usually hit and miss.... I'm trying hard this
year to get them out straight after the conference.

Ciar?n

ps. The audio will be free to download. :)

From tartley at tartley.com  Wed Jun 24 13:05:07 2009
From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:05:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 videos?
In-Reply-To: <30008954.1245840517102.JavaMail.root@n17>
References: <30008954.1245840517102.JavaMail.root@n17>
Message-ID: <4A420863.6070106@tartley.com>

Hi Byron,

We will not be videoing talks, simply because we have not had anybody 
with time, knowledge and equipment who has volunteered to do it.

We do, however, have someone who is able to make audio recordings, and 
they have whipped up a handful of eager helpers to cover the multiple 
rooms, so we will be doing that. The audio files will need rudimentary 
editing and uploading, and hopefully will be up soon after the 
conference, for FREE!

    Jonathan

Byron Schlemmer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Will any videos be taken of EuroPython 2009, specifically the
> keynotes? Will they be made available online, for a nominal fee
> perhaps?
>
>   

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From theology at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 13:10:12 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:10:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Travel recommendation
In-Reply-To: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
References: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906240410q608d2580k252e954713694f5a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/24 Jan Ulrich Hasecke <jan.ulrich at hasecke.com>:
> Hello,
>
> we arrive with four persons at the airport of Birmingham. What is cheper? To
> got with train or bus to the city or use a taxi directly to the hotel?

Train certainly. It will also be far quicker.

Britain has two types of taxi, 'private hire' which you have to ring
before and arrange the price on the phone, this will be about ?25. The
other type of taxi is a hackney carriage (black cab) which has a
meter, which you jump into, this will cost a lot.

>
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From vincent.fretin at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 13:19:17 2009
From: vincent.fretin at gmail.com (Vincent Fretin)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:19:17 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Car Parking
In-Reply-To: <C8A6B342CDC4EE4DA20023B8D09391EE033DD2A2@ASL-VMAIL.interquad.com>
References: <7151bdf60906240337j482654d7u2aa0f1941ed93f94@mail.gmail.com>
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I didn't know there was a pdf map on the site, oh yeah it's in the
About part, I never went to this part of site:
http://www.europython.eu/about/venue/
--
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From theology at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 13:19:18 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:19:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Choosing tutorials
In-Reply-To: <4A41E198.5030406@simplistix.co.uk>
References: <4A4127F0.70404@sschwarzer.net>
	<b1f5d7040906231512i7b957030mfef4fbc206986e07@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A41E198.5030406@simplistix.co.uk>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906240419m190c5fb3y2febae1851d9946f@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/24 Chris Withers <chris at simplistix.co.uk>:
> Hmm, I don't think that analogy holds true. The current system is a bit like
> buying a ticket without knowing the destination and, indeed, having to buy 4
> tickets even if you can only fly on two of the dates.

Well it is the same for everyone, when we open registration, we don't
know what tutorials we be submitted, so it is like running an airline
without knowing what planes we got or what countries have airports.

But the airport anaology has run out. It is more like a caravan club
where everyone brings something and the details are worked out on the
journey.

From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 13:27:19 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:27:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Car Parking
In-Reply-To: <7151bdf60906240337j482654d7u2aa0f1941ed93f94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7151bdf60906240337j482654d7u2aa0f1941ed93f94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906240427v2d828fder4d0d77d46611a7f2@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

2009/6/24 Dougal Matthews <dougal85 at gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
> I'm staying just outside Birmingham for the conference.
> What is the car parking like in the area
>

There is plenty of parking nearby, both in car parks and on-street
(expensive).

You can see the car parks marked on Ciaran's map at
http://wiki.europython.eu/Travel?action=show&redirect=travel

The best compromise between convenience and cost is probably the car park at
the left hand edge of that map, half-way up.

or would I be best to get the train (from leamington spa)?
>

That's certainly a viable option, take the train to Moor Street (12 minutes
walk), but the parking is OK. Morning rush hour traffic is another matter
;-)

best wishes,

John
--

>
> Cheers,
> Dougal
>
> ---
> Dougal Matthews - @d0ugal
> http://www.dougalmatthews.com/
>
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From q at clocksoft.com  Wed Jun 24 13:30:20 2009
From: q at clocksoft.com (Quentin Wright)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:30:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Car Parking
In-Reply-To: <7151bdf60906240337j482654d7u2aa0f1941ed93f94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7151bdf60906240337j482654d7u2aa0f1941ed93f94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A420E4C.80606@clocksoft.com>

Dougal Matthews wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm staying just outside Birmingham for the conference.
> What is the car parking like in the area or would I be best to get the train
> (from leamington spa)?
>
> Cheers,
> Dougal
>
> ---
> Dougal Matthews - @d0ugal
> http://www.dougalmatthews.com/
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
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Hi Dougal,

There are a lot of car parks within walking distance of the
Conservatoire, although they are pretty expensive. Follow the signs to
the Conference Centre off the A38 and that will naturally take you to
the car parks.

There is a map accessible from this web page:
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/GenerateContent?CONTENT_ITEM_ID=25731&CONTENT_ITEM_TYPE=0&MENU_ID=12077
and the most convenient is the Brindley Drive Multi-storey, No 6.

The small open air one, Civic Centre, No 7 is the most expensive.

If you want to pay even more there are on-street spaces near the entry
to the Copthorne Hotel on Paradise Circus.

You might be better off using the train, depending upon your distance
from the station at Leamington Spa.

Q.




From lac at openend.se  Wed Jun 24 13:43:49 2009
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:43:49 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
Message-ID: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se>

I didn't know that I had to configure mailman specially to allow
attatchemtns to be passed through.  I thought that was the default.
If you have been having problems submitting your slides, please
try again, I think I have it fixed now.

Laura

From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Wed Jun 24 13:44:19 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:44:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Car Parking
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906240427v2d828fder4d0d77d46611a7f2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7151bdf60906240337j482654d7u2aa0f1941ed93f94@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906240427v2d828fder4d0d77d46611a7f2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e4e51a80906240444g5d89430bp74c9b7695ac22089@mail.gmail.com>

> That's certainly a viable option, take the train to Moor Street (12 minutes
> walk), but the parking is OK. Morning rush hour traffic is another matter

According to National Rail Enquiries there are trains from Leamington
Spa to both Birmingham New Street and Birmingham Moor Street. Take the
train to Birmingham New Street if you can, it's a lot more
convienient.

Ciar?n

From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 13:56:43 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:56:43 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Travel recommendation
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906240410q608d2580k252e954713694f5a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <377221D1-FDD0-42ED-9286-AFC4356A61DB@hasecke.com>
	<b1f5d7040906240410q608d2580k252e954713694f5a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906240456x7bc5d2dfpb4affcbad7e6a690@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/24 Zeth <theology at gmail.com>

> 2009/6/24 Jan Ulrich Hasecke <jan.ulrich at hasecke.com>:
> > Hello,
> >
> > we arrive with four persons at the airport of Birmingham. What is cheper?
> To
> > got with train or bus to the city or use a taxi directly to the hotel?
>
> Train certainly. It will also be far quicker.


Yes, the preferred method is train, cheaper and probably quicker. You only
need a cab if you have a lot to carry.

>
> Britain has two types of taxi, 'private hire' which you have to ring
> before and arrange the price on the phone, this will be about ?25. The
> other type of taxi is a hackney carriage (black cab) which has a
> meter, which you jump into, this will cost a lot.


No, this is too high, the hackney carriage (black cab) should be about ?26.

Private hire will be cheaper: try ringing a2b cars on +44 (0)121 733 3000,
they have cars up there all the time (so you shouldn't have to wait too
long) and the cost should be about ?13. This is *not* a recommendation.

If you think you're getting ripped off, record the cab's number on it's taxi
registration plate (note: not the vehicle registration).

John
--


>
>
> >
> > Mit freundlichen Gr??en
> > Jan Ulrich Hasecke
> >
> > --
> > http://hasecke.com * Business Communication
> > Advertising * Public Relations * Content Management * Plone Training
> >
> > Support CAcert.org: Free Digital Certificates for Everyone!
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From me at byron.me.uk  Wed Jun 24 13:28:39 2009
From: me at byron.me.uk (Byron Schlemmer)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:28:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2009 videos?
In-Reply-To: <4A420863.6070106@tartley.com>
References: <30008954.1245840517102.JavaMail.root@n17>
	<4A420863.6070106@tartley.com>
Message-ID: <71888cb20906240428l22f2dc12j82f8a7f9bb93af1f@mail.gmail.com>

Ah,

Well that's just as good. Thanks! All the best with the conference, I
can only imagine the difficulty involved in managing all that.

2009/6/24 Jonathan Hartley <tartley at tartley.com>:
> Hi Byron,
>
> We will not be videoing talks, simply because we have not had anybody with
> time, knowledge and equipment who has volunteered to do it.
>
> We do, however, have someone who is able to make audio recordings, and they
> have whipped up a handful of eager helpers to cover the multiple rooms, so
> we will be doing that. The audio files will need rudimentary editing and
> uploading, and hopefully will be up soon after the conference, for FREE!
>
> ? Jonathan
>
> Byron Schlemmer wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Will any videos be taken of EuroPython 2009, specifically the
>> keynotes? Will they be made available online, for a nominal fee
>> perhaps?
>>
>>
>
> --
> Jonathan Hartley ? ? ?Made of meat. ? ? ?http://tartley.com
> tartley at tartley.com ? +44 7737 062 225 ? twitter/skype: tartley
>
>
>



-- 

    byron

From j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk  Wed Jun 24 13:57:56 2009
From: j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk (Jonathan Bowlas)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 12:57:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Car Parking
In-Reply-To: <3e4e51a80906240444g5d89430bp74c9b7695ac22089@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7151bdf60906240337j482654d7u2aa0f1941ed93f94@mail.gmail.com> 
	<ff8a32f0906240427v2d828fder4d0d77d46611a7f2@mail.gmail.com> 
	<3e4e51a80906240444g5d89430bp74c9b7695ac22089@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d37bc060906240457i74d8915dme0132a8fc6eea2fb@mail.gmail.com>

The Chiltern Railways train from Leamington Spa to Birmingham Moor
Street/Snow Hill takes about 40 miutes. A lot less hassle than driving
in the rush hour and finding parking.

Snow Hill is probably closer to the venue than Moor St.

Jon

2009/6/24 Ciar?n Mooney <general.mooney at googlemail.com>:
>> That's certainly a viable option, take the train to Moor Street (12 minutes
>> walk), but the parking is OK. Morning rush hour traffic is another matter
>
> According to National Rail Enquiries there are trains from Leamington
> Spa to both Birmingham New Street and Birmingham Moor Street. Take the
> train to Birmingham New Street if you can, it's a lot more
> convienient.
>
> Ciar?n
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 14:07:55 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:07:55 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
In-Reply-To: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se>
References: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906240507q5de8a9ddpf780ace4ee3ff062@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/24 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>

> I didn't know that I had to configure mailman specially to allow
> attatchemtns to be passed through.  I thought that was the default.
> If you have been having problems submitting your slides, please
> try again, I think I have it fixed now.


Well, I thought that they're *supposed* to be uploaded to the wiki  at
http://wiki.europython.eu/TalkMaterials

It's going to very confusing if they're going into two different locations,
especially for matti...

John
--


>
> Laura
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From lac at openend.se  Wed Jun 24 14:13:13 2009
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:13:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
In-Reply-To: Message from John Pinner <funthyme@gmail.com> of "Wed,
	24 Jun 2009 13:07:55 BST."
	<ff8a32f0906240507q5de8a9ddpf780ace4ee3ff062@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se>
	<ff8a32f0906240507q5de8a9ddpf780ace4ee3ff062@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200906241213.n5OCDDdi023153@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:07:55 BST, John Pinner writes:
>--001636c5ab401cd223046d16f5ba
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>Hi,
>
>2009/6/24 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>
>
>> I didn't know that I had to configure mailman specially to allow
>> attatchemtns to be passed through.  I thought that was the default.
>> If you have been having problems submitting your slides, please
>> try again, I think I have it fixed now.
>
>
>Well, I thought that they're *supposed* to be uploaded to the wiki  at
>http://wiki.europython.eu/TalkMaterials
>
>It's going to very confusing if they're going into two different location
>s,
>especially for matti...
>
>John

I am sorry.  My fault.
I didn't realise that that was where they were supposed to go.

The most common reason I a getting back for not having the slides
is 'they are not ready'.  Some people are working on them today,
though.

Laura

From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 14:24:24 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:24:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Choosing tutorials
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906240419m190c5fb3y2febae1851d9946f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A4127F0.70404@sschwarzer.net>
	<b1f5d7040906231512i7b957030mfef4fbc206986e07@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A41E198.5030406@simplistix.co.uk>
	<b1f5d7040906240419m190c5fb3y2febae1851d9946f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906240524n122f9461i7389afdddabea5bd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/24 Zeth <theology at gmail.com>

> 2009/6/24 Chris Withers <chris at simplistix.co.uk>:
> > Hmm, I don't think that analogy holds true. The current system is a bit
> like
> > buying a ticket without knowing the destination and, indeed, having to
> buy 4
> > tickets even if you can only fly on two of the dates.
>
> Well it is the same for everyone, when we open registration, we don't
> know what tutorials we be submitted, so it is like running an airline
> without knowing what planes we got or what countries have airports.
>
> But the airport anaology has run out. It is more like a caravan club
> where everyone brings something and the details are worked out on the
> journey.


yes, some of us seem to have forgotten that EP is community run. If you see
something you don't like, it's because you didn't do something, so you *can*
put it right.

John
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From Thomas.Bleier at ait.ac.at  Wed Jun 24 14:12:45 2009
From: Thomas.Bleier at ait.ac.at (Bleier Thomas)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:12:45 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial Registration
In-Reply-To: <8d37bc060906240326v14650f6dx69979b8535c5417a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8d37bc060906240326v14650f6dx69979b8535c5417a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9C904BFD75CBDC41A4E6FF54ACF207A33A71E35CEA@MAILBOX.arc.local>

Hi everybody,

me too - I also booked some time ago and do not remember getting any URL for reserving places...

best regards,
__
/homas

________________________________________
Von: europython-bounces+thomas.bleier=arcs.ac.at at python.org [europython-bounces+thomas.bleier=arcs.ac.at at python.org] im Auftrag von Jonathan Bowlas [j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009 12:26
An: europython at python.org
Betreff: [EuroPython] Tutorial Registration

Hi

How do I register for the tutorials - my colleague and I booked quite
some time ago for the conference and tutorials but have not recieved
any one-time use URL for reserving places on the tutorials we'd like
to attend.

What should we do, please advise.

Jon Bowlas.
_______________________________________________
EuroPython mailing list
EuroPython at python.org
http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 14:28:16 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:28:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
In-Reply-To: <200906241213.n5OCDDdi023153@theraft.openend.se>
References: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se>
	<funthyme@gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906240507q5de8a9ddpf780ace4ee3ff062@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906241213.n5OCDDdi023153@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906240528o577ededfra0d51d93eafbc464@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

2009/6/24 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>

> In a message of Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:07:55 BST, John Pinner writes:
> >--001636c5ab401cd223046d16f5ba
> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >2009/6/24 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>
> >
> >> I didn't know that I had to configure mailman specially to allow
> >> attatchemtns to be passed through.  I thought that was the default.
> >> If you have been having problems submitting your slides, please
> >> try again, I think I have it fixed now.
> >
> >
> >Well, I thought that they're *supposed* to be uploaded to the wiki  at
> >http://wiki.europython.eu/TalkMaterials
> >
> >It's going to very confusing if they're going into two different location
> >s,
> >especially for matti...
> >
> >John
>
> I am sorry.  My fault.
> I didn't realise that that was where they were supposed to go.
>
> The most common reason I a getting back for not having the slides
> is 'they are not ready'.  Some people are working on them today,
> though.


Yes, matti has to have the DVD image to us by Thursday evening *at the
latest* (really, this time) if there is to be any chance of the DVDs being
available at EP.

So they have until tomorrow lunchtime, preferable earlier.

John
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>
> Laura
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 14:36:05 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:36:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tutorial Registration
In-Reply-To: <9C904BFD75CBDC41A4E6FF54ACF207A33A71E35CEA@MAILBOX.arc.local>
References: <8d37bc060906240326v14650f6dx69979b8535c5417a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9C904BFD75CBDC41A4E6FF54ACF207A33A71E35CEA@MAILBOX.arc.local>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906240536m52f219efjd40bf12975deef3b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/24 Bleier Thomas <Thomas.Bleier at ait.ac.at>

> Hi everybody,
>
> me too - I also booked some time ago and do not remember getting any URL
> for reserving places...


Ask zeth...

John
--


>
>
> best regards,
> __
> /homas
>
> ________________________________________
> Von: europython-bounces+thomas.bleier=arcs.ac.at at python.org[europython-bounces+thomas.bleier=
> arcs.ac.at at python.org] im Auftrag von Jonathan Bowlas [j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk]
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 24. Juni 2009 12:26
> An: europython at python.org
> Betreff: [EuroPython] Tutorial Registration
>
> Hi
>
> How do I register for the tutorials - my colleague and I booked quite
> some time ago for the conference and tutorials but have not recieved
> any one-time use URL for reserving places on the tutorials we'd like
> to attend.
>
> What should we do, please advise.
>
> Jon Bowlas.
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> _______________________________________________
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> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From ct at gocept.com  Wed Jun 24 14:40:08 2009
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:40:08 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906240528o577ededfra0d51d93eafbc464@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se>
	<funthyme@gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906240507q5de8a9ddpf780ace4ee3ff062@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906241213.n5OCDDdi023153@theraft.openend.se>
	<ff8a32f0906240528o577ededfra0d51d93eafbc464@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1245847208.14868.16.camel@mindy>

Hi,

On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 13:28 +0100, John Pinner wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 2009/6/24 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>
>         In a message of Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:07:55 BST, John Pinner
>         writes:
>         >--001636c5ab401cd223046d16f5ba
>         >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>         >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>         >
>         >Hi,
>         >
>         >2009/6/24 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>
>         >
>         >> I didn't know that I had to configure mailman specially to
>         allow
>         >> attatchemtns to be passed through.  I thought that was the
>         default.
>         >> If you have been having problems submitting your slides,
>         please
>         >> try again, I think I have it fixed now.
>         >
>         >
>         >Well, I thought that they're *supposed* to be uploaded to the
>         wiki  at
>         >http://wiki.europython.eu/TalkMaterials
>         >
>         >It's going to very confusing if they're going into two
>         different location
>         >s,
>         >especially for matti...
>         >
>         >John
>         
>         
>         I am sorry.  My fault.
>         I didn't realise that that was where they were supposed to go.
>         
>         The most common reason I a getting back for not having the
>         slides
>         is 'they are not ready'.  Some people are working on them
>         today,
>         though.
> 
> Yes, matti has to have the DVD image to us by Thursday evening *at the
> latest* (really, this time) if there is to be any chance of the DVDs
> being available at EP.
> 
> So they have until tomorrow lunchtime, preferable earlier.

I just noticed that deadline for slides which was given in a mail that I
haven't paid enough attentation to (I read it as "if you're ready, we'd
like to include your material"). I haven't noticed there to be a hard
requirement set to two days ago until now.

I'm a bit surprised about the deadline and won't be able to submit any
slides for my apprenticeship talk (my tutorial stuff is available
already).

Christian

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From theology at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 14:58:18 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:58:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
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2009/6/24 Christian Theune <ct at gocept.com>:
> I just noticed that deadline for slides which was given in a mail that I
> haven't paid enough attentation to (I read it as "if you're ready, we'd
> like to include your material"). I haven't noticed there to be a hard
> requirement set to two days ago until now.

Well some of us are more indirect and floppy than others ;)

British("we'd like to include your material, please") ==
Continental("Give us your material now")

;)

From ct at gocept.com  Wed Jun 24 15:00:20 2009
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:00:20 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
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On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 13:58 +0100, Zeth wrote:
> 2009/6/24 Christian Theune <ct at gocept.com>:
> > I just noticed that deadline for slides which was given in a mail that I
> > haven't paid enough attentation to (I read it as "if you're ready, we'd
> > like to include your material"). I haven't noticed there to be a hard
> > requirement set to two days ago until now.
> 
> Well some of us are more indirect and floppy than others ;)
> 
> British("we'd like to include your material, please") ==
> Continental("Give us your material now")

Yeah, darn. :)

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From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Wed Jun 24 15:05:04 2009
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:05:04 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
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Am 24.06.2009, 14:58 Uhr, schrieb Zeth <theology at gmail.com>:

> British("we'd like to include your material, please") ==
> Continental("Give us your material now")

I protest! Apart from all the regional variants in England (the mancunian  
form is something like "Give us the **?!...") that use of continental can  
only refer to those to the North and East of the Rhine.

Charlie

From theology at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 15:19:22 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:19:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
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2009/6/24 Charlie Clark <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>:
> Am 24.06.2009, 14:58 Uhr, schrieb Zeth <theology at gmail.com>:
> I protest! Apart from all the regional variants in England (the mancunian
> form is something like "Give us the **?!...") that use of continental can
> only refer to those to the North and East of the Rhine.

Manchester is in Britain?

From steve at holdenweb.com  Wed Jun 24 16:00:29 2009
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:00:29 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
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Zeth wrote:
> 2009/6/24 Christian Theune <ct at gocept.com>:
>> I just noticed that deadline for slides which was given in a mail that I
>> haven't paid enough attentation to (I read it as "if you're ready, we'd
>> like to include your material"). I haven't noticed there to be a hard
>> requirement set to two days ago until now.
> 
> Well some of us are more indirect and floppy than others ;)
> 
> British("we'd like to include your material, please") ==
> Continental("Give us your material now")
 ~-== American ("Where's the damned material?") ;-)

regards
 Steve
-- 
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Watch PyCon on video now!          http://pycon.blip.tv/


From ct at gocept.com  Wed Jun 24 16:02:26 2009
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:02:26 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
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On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 14:19 +0100, Zeth wrote:
> 2009/6/24 Charlie Clark <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>:
> > Am 24.06.2009, 14:58 Uhr, schrieb Zeth <theology at gmail.com>:
> > I protest! Apart from all the regional variants in England (the mancunian
> > form is something like "Give us the **?!...") that use of continental can
> > only refer to those to the North and East of the Rhine.

You're saying Bavaria wants to join the UK?

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From krzysztof.wilczynski at bcs.org.uk  Wed Jun 24 16:06:36 2009
From: krzysztof.wilczynski at bcs.org.uk (Krzysztof Wilczynski)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:06:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
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Hello,

[...]
>> British("we'd like to include your material, please") ==
>> Continental("Give us your material now")
> ?~-== American ("Where's the damned material?") ;-)

BORG("We will add your slides and presentation to our own. Your
culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.")

KW

From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 16:26:26 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:26:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] sharing hotel room
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Hi,

2009/6/23 Georg Brandl <georg at python.org>

> John Pinner schrieb:
> > Hi,
> >
> > 2009/6/22 Tobias Brox <tobixen at gmail.com <mailto:tobixen at gmail.com>>
> >
> >     > 2009/6/4 Reinout van Rees <reinout at vanrees.org
> >     <mailto:reinout at vanrees.org>>:
> >     >> Or should I notify them?
> >     >
> >     > There is no need, but you need to arrive first!
> >
> >     My room mate arrives before me (to the premier inn/channel side) ...
> >     should I tell him to wait in the lobby, or can it be arranged? ;-)
> >
> >
> > email the hotel at BirminghamCityCentre.PI at premierinn.com
> > <mailto:BirminghamCityCentre.PI at premierinn.com> and tell them that you
> > are booked in under our group booking and give them Reinout's name, say
> > he will be arriving first and let him have your key.
> >
> > Do it after Wednesday, when they should have our list with your name on
> > it. Let me if you have any problems.
>
> Hi John,
>
> what would be the respective address for the Etap hotel? We have the same
> situation here...
>

It's

h5678-re at accor.com

Address anything you send 'For the Attention of Emma or Rachael', who are
the ones handling our bookings.

Best wishes,

John
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> Thanks,
> Georg
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From David.Radkowski at Investec.co.uk  Wed Jun 24 17:14:33 2009
From: David.Radkowski at Investec.co.uk (David Radkowski)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:14:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] An accommodation related question
Message-ID: <2D974ED40AF27248A3523561428BC68206665C37@invldnmexmb1.uk.corp.investec.com>

Hi
 
I'd like to book accommodation via your webpage. Could you please
clarify to me what "sleep 2" means? Will *you* put me with somebody in
that room or it's just the maximum capacity of the room in case *I'd*
like to share it with somebody? I definitely don't want to share my room
:)
 
Cheers
 
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IT
 
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From mikeal.rogers at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 17:30:45 2009
From: mikeal.rogers at gmail.com (Mikeal Rogers)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 08:30:45 -0700
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
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So, at the end of all this, where do I put my slides?

My slides for one of my talks include two demo videos so preferably  
*not* email.

-Mikeal


On Jun 24, 2009, at June 24, 20097:06 AM, Krzysztof Wilczynski wrote:

> Hello,
>
> [...]
>>> British("we'd like to include your material, please") ==
>>> Continental("Give us your material now")
>>  ~-== American ("Where's the damned material?") ;-)
>
> BORG("We will add your slides and presentation to our own. Your
> culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.")
>
> KW
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython


From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 17:31:00 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:31:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] An accommodation related question
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2009/6/24 David Radkowski <David.Radkowski at investec.co.uk>

>  Hi
>
> I'd like to book accommodation via your webpage. Could you please clarify
> to me what "sleep 2" means? Will *you* put me with somebody in that room
>

No.


> or it's just the maximum capacity of the room in case *I'd* like to share
> it with somebody?
>

Yes.

John
--


> I definitely don't want to share my room :)
>
> Cheers
>
> *David Radkowski*
> IT
>
> Capital Markets
> Investec Bank plc
> Telephone: +44 20 7597 4830
> 2 Gresham Street, London, EC2V 7QP
> United Kingdom
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From russel.winder at concertant.com  Wed Jun 24 17:35:47 2009
From: russel.winder at concertant.com (Russel Winder)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:35:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906240528o577ededfra0d51d93eafbc464@mail.gmail.com>
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John,

From the outset let me say I am guilty, I have failed to be sufficiently
organized to have my presentation materials finished by yesterday as
originally planned.

On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 13:28 +0100, John Pinner wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 2009/6/24 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>
>         In a message of Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:07:55 BST, John Pinner
>         writes:
>         >--001636c5ab401cd223046d16f5ba
>         >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>         >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>         >
>         >Hi,
>         >
>         >2009/6/24 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>
>         >
>         >> I didn't know that I had to configure mailman specially to
>         allow
>         >> attatchemtns to be passed through.  I thought that was the
>         default.
>         >> If you have been having problems submitting your slides,
>         please
>         >> try again, I think I have it fixed now.
>         >
>         >
>         >Well, I thought that they're *supposed* to be uploaded to the
>         wiki  at
>         >http://wiki.europython.eu/TalkMaterials
>         >
>         >It's going to very confusing if they're going into two
>         different location
>         >s,
>         >especially for matti...
>         >
>         >John
>         
>         
>         I am sorry.  My fault.
>         I didn't realise that that was where they were supposed to go.
>         
>         The most common reason I a getting back for not having the
>         slides
>         is 'they are not ready'.  Some people are working on them
>         today,
>         though.
> 
> Yes, matti has to have the DVD image to us by Thursday evening *at the
> latest* (really, this time) if there is to be any chance of the DVDs
> being available at EP.
> 
I wonder if the Wiki is actually a better resource for these than a DVD.

Given the inability of presenters (such as myself) to complete their
slides before they travel to the conference, isn't having them on a
website for people to download actually better than the hassle of
writing a DVD.  I know I haven't put any conference disc in a machine
for years.

ACCU has I believe stopped doing conference discs for exactly this
timing reason. 

> So they have until tomorrow lunchtime, preferable earlier.
> 
I'll try and finish mine tonight and upload but . . .  (reasons and
excuses elided)
 
> John
> --
> 
> 
>         
>         
>         Laura
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From tartley at tartley.com  Wed Jun 24 17:39:10 2009
From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:39:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
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Upload them here:
http://wiki.europython.eu/TalkMaterials

And please let Krzysztof know (he's on this email.)

    Jonathan



Mikeal Rogers wrote:
> So, at the end of all this, where do I put my slides?
>
> My slides for one of my talks include two demo videos so preferably 
> *not* email.
>
> -Mikeal
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2009, at June 24, 20097:06 AM, Krzysztof Wilczynski wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> [...]
>>>> British("we'd like to include your material, please") ==
>>>> Continental("Give us your material now")
>>>  ~-== American ("Where's the damned material?") ;-)
>>
>> BORG("We will add your slides and presentation to our own. Your
>> culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.")
>>
>> KW
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

-- 
Jonathan Hartley      Made of meat.      http://tartley.com
tartley at tartley.com   +44 7737 062 225   twitter/skype: tartley



From krzysztof.wilczynski at bcs.org.uk  Wed Jun 24 17:44:23 2009
From: krzysztof.wilczynski at bcs.org.uk (Krzysztof Wilczynski)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:44:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
In-Reply-To: <4A42489E.7030907@tartley.com>
References: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se> 
	<ff8a32f0906240507q5de8a9ddpf780ace4ee3ff062@mail.gmail.com> 
	<200906241213.n5OCDDdi023153@theraft.openend.se>
	<ff8a32f0906240528o577ededfra0d51d93eafbc464@mail.gmail.com> 
	<1245847208.14868.16.camel@mindy>
	<b1f5d7040906240558r5db823e6m23971133d13660bc@mail.gmail.com> 
	<4A42317D.9020805@holdenweb.com>
	<dd71a3d00906240706m27ee1da2gaa077f2df4fc0178@mail.gmail.com> 
	<24417480.1245857531247.JavaMail.root@n17>
	<4A42489E.7030907@tartley.com>
Message-ID: <dd71a3d00906240844k4d537297nd3fa1bd5deea0fde@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

[...]
>> So, at the end of all this, where do I put my slides?
>>
>> My slides for one of my talks include two demo videos so preferably *not*
>> email.
[...]

I am happy to download them from whatever place you can point me at.

KW

From lac at openend.se  Wed Jun 24 18:05:25 2009
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:05:25 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
In-Reply-To: Message from Christian Theune <ct@gocept.com> 
	of "Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:40:08 +0200." <1245847208.14868.16.camel@mindy> 
References: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se>
	<funthyme@gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906240507q5de8a9ddpf780ace4ee3ff062@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906241213.n5OCDDdi023153@theraft.openend.se>
	<ff8a32f0906240528o577ededfra0d51d93eafbc464@mail.gmail.com>
	<1245847208.14868.16.camel@mindy> 
Message-ID: <200906241605.n5OG5PgV005280@theraft.openend.se>


Thank you for letting us know.  Looks like we weren't very good about
letting speakers know that their slides were required by a certain
time.  Next time we will do better.

Laura


In a message of Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:40:08 +0200, Christian Theune writes:
>
>--=-5MkVDdwxCZC6Ukc0PNwS
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
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>
>Hi,
>
>On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 13:28 +0100, John Pinner wrote:
>> Hello,
>>=20
>> 2009/6/24 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>
>>         In a message of Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:07:55 BST, John Pinner
>>         writes:
>>         >--001636c5ab401cd223046d16f5ba
>>         >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8
>>         >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>>         >
>>         >Hi,
>>         >
>>         >2009/6/24 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>
>>         >
>>         >> I didn't know that I had to configure mailman specially to
>>         allow
>>         >> attatchemtns to be passed through.  I thought that was the
>>         default.
>>         >> If you have been having problems submitting your slides,
>>         please
>>         >> try again, I think I have it fixed now.
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >Well, I thought that they're *supposed* to be uploaded to the
>>         wiki  at
>>         >http://wiki.europython.eu/TalkMaterials
>>         >
>>         >It's going to very confusing if they're going into two
>>         different location
>>         >s,
>>         >especially for matti...
>>         >
>>         >John
>>        =20
>>        =20
>>         I am sorry.  My fault.
>>         I didn't realise that that was where they were supposed to go.
>>        =20
>>         The most common reason I a getting back for not having the
>>         slides
>>         is 'they are not ready'.  Some people are working on them
>>         today,
>>         though.
>>=20
>> Yes, matti has to have the DVD image to us by Thursday evening *at the
>> latest* (really, this time) if there is to be any chance of the DVDs
>> being available at EP.
>>=20
>> So they have until tomorrow lunchtime, preferable earlier.
>
>I just noticed that deadline for slides which was given in a mail that I
>haven't paid enough attentation to (I read it as "if you're ready, we'd
>like to include your material"). I haven't noticed there to be a hard
>requirement set to two days ago until now.
>
>I'm a bit surprised about the deadline and won't be able to submit any
>slides for my apprenticeship talk (my tutorial stuff is available
>already).
>
>Christian
>
>--=20
>Christian Theune =C2=B7 ct at gocept.com
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>le=
>) =C2=B7 germany
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 18:41:23 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:41:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
In-Reply-To: <1245857747.5029.44.camel@launcelot.russel.org.uk>
References: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se>
	<funthyme@gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906240507q5de8a9ddpf780ace4ee3ff062@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906241213.n5OCDDdi023153@theraft.openend.se>
	<ff8a32f0906240528o577ededfra0d51d93eafbc464@mail.gmail.com>
	<1245857747.5029.44.camel@launcelot.russel.org.uk>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906240941i73016577x744636a01a18bb8d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/24 Russel Winder <russel.winder at concertant.com>

> John,
>
> From the outset let me say I am guilty, I have failed to be sufficiently
> organized to have my presentation materials finished by yesterday as
> originally planned.
>
> On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 13:28 +0100, John Pinner wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > 2009/6/24 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>
> >         In a message of Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:07:55 BST, John Pinner
> >         writes:
> >         >--001636c5ab401cd223046d16f5ba
> >         >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >         >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >         >
> >         >Hi,
> >         >
> >         >2009/6/24 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>
> >         >
> >         >> I didn't know that I had to configure mailman specially to
> >         allow
> >         >> attatchemtns to be passed through.  I thought that was the
> >         default.
> >         >> If you have been having problems submitting your slides,
> >         please
> >         >> try again, I think I have it fixed now.
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >Well, I thought that they're *supposed* to be uploaded to the
> >         wiki  at
> >         >http://wiki.europython.eu/TalkMaterials
> >         >
> >         >It's going to very confusing if they're going into two
> >         different location
> >         >s,
> >         >especially for matti...
> >         >
> >         >John
> >
> >
> >         I am sorry.  My fault.
> >         I didn't realise that that was where they were supposed to go.
> >
> >         The most common reason I a getting back for not having the
> >         slides
> >         is 'they are not ready'.  Some people are working on them
> >         today,
> >         though.
> >
> > Yes, matti has to have the DVD image to us by Thursday evening *at the
> > latest* (really, this time) if there is to be any chance of the DVDs
> > being available at EP.
> >
> I wonder if the Wiki is actually a better resource for these than a DVD.
>
> Given the inability of presenters (such as myself) to complete their
> slides before they travel to the conference, isn't having them on a
> website for people to download actually better than the hassle of
> writing a DVD.  I know I haven't put any conference disc in a machine
> for years.


matti has produced a disk with rather wider usefulness than just talks.

>
> ACCU has I believe stopped doing conference discs for exactly this
> timing reason.
>

I'm not sure that this was the whole reason: an inability to get the act
together was at least equal (I offered to produce the disk at very short
leadtime).

ACCU still has not got many talk slides available, weeks after the
conference.

It seems that having a deadline for a CD/DVD may be the only way to get the
speakers to produce the goods. However well-intentioned people are, after
the conference we're all knackered and somehow it just doesn't get done.

We just need to manage the process better I think.

I think this year at EP we need to get the session chairs to insist that the
speakers give them their slides there and then, let's issue them all with
USB memory sticks.

>
> > So they have until tomorrow lunchtime, preferable earlier.
> >
> I'll try and finish mine tonight and upload but . . .  (reasons and
> excuses elided)
>

Thanks, Russel. looking forward to your talk!

John
--


>
> > John
> > --
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >         Laura
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > EuroPython mailing list
> > EuroPython at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> --
> Russel.
>
> =============================================================================
> Dr Russel Winder      Partner
>                                            xmpp: russel at russel.org.uk
> Concertant LLP        t: +44 20 7585 2200, +44 20 7193 9203
> 41 Buckmaster Road,   f: +44 8700 516 084   voip:
> sip:russel.winder at ekiga.net <sip%3Arussel.winder at ekiga.net>
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From ct at gocept.com  Wed Jun 24 19:41:52 2009
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:41:52 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
In-Reply-To: <200906241605.n5OG5PgV005280@theraft.openend.se>
References: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se>
	<funthyme@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1245865312.31669.1.camel@mindy>

On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 18:05 +0200, Laura Creighton wrote:
> Thank you for letting us know.  Looks like we weren't very good about
> letting speakers know that their slides were required by a certain
> time.

As I said: I also misread and reading it earlier today showed me it
could have been clear to me.

>   Next time we will do better.

I will try the same. ;)

-- 
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From tim at tizmoi.net  Wed Jun 24 21:35:34 2009
From: tim at tizmoi.net (Tim Couper)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:35:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Session chairs
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906240941i73016577x744636a01a18bb8d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se>	<funthyme@gmail.com>	<ff8a32f0906240507q5de8a9ddpf780ace4ee3ff062@mail.gmail.com>	<200906241213.n5OCDDdi023153@theraft.openend.se>	<ff8a32f0906240528o577ededfra0d51d93eafbc464@mail.gmail.com>	<1245857747.5029.44.camel@launcelot.russel.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <4A428006.7070707@tizmoi.net>

1. EP Organisers: If not already considered, could we arrange to have 
some indication on the badges for people who are session chairs?

2. Session Chairs: Could all you superstar session chairs try to locate 
me (as team captain) as early as possible at the conference .. so I know 
you're around (and who you are!) .. and if you are not going to be 
around, you'll need to get hold of me .. I'm reluctant to put my mobile 
on this open list, but if you could email me - tim at tizmoi.net - I'll 
mail you my mobile phone number .. and if you could give me yours that 
is likely to help [also if you have a photo on a webpage or facebook 
page, please send that link as it'll help me being able to recognise you 
] ... :-)

Ta

Tim


From christopher.swift at linux.com  Wed Jun 24 22:21:22 2009
From: christopher.swift at linux.com (Christopher Swift)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:21:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
Message-ID: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>

Hello all, I was wondering if any Brummie locals out there could assist
me in finding decent places for food in Birmingham. Being in a strange
land it'd be nice to eat some good food! Does anyone know of any good
Chineses in the area or any recommendations on any other sorts of food
venues?

With much thanks,
Chris.
-- 
Christopher Swift
http://launchpad.net/~chris

PGP Key: 0x10A0B8E
<christopher.swift at linux.com>

From theology at gmail.com  Wed Jun 24 23:31:24 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 22:31:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
References: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906241431w270f1ce8ja5c44ecc73f367b0@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/24 Christopher Swift <christopher.swift at linux.com>:
> Hello all, I was wondering if any Brummie locals out there could assist
> me in finding decent places for food in Birmingham. Being in a strange
> land it'd be nice to eat some good food! Does anyone know of any good
> Chineses in the area or any recommendations on any other sorts of food
> venues?

Firstly have a look at this:
http://www.europython.eu/about/eatingout/

Secondly, we are a social lot here in Birmingham and so have arranged
somewhere to go together each night:

http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable/

>
> With much thanks,
> Chris.
> --
> Christopher Swift
> http://launchpad.net/~chris
>
> PGP Key: 0x10A0B8E
> <christopher.swift at linux.com>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From christopher.swift at linux.com  Thu Jun 25 00:34:15 2009
From: christopher.swift at linux.com (Christopher Swift)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:34:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906241431w270f1ce8ja5c44ecc73f367b0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
	<b1f5d7040906241431w270f1ce8ja5c44ecc73f367b0@mail.gmail.com>
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Zeth wrote:
> 2009/6/24 Christopher Swift <christopher.swift at linux.com>:
>> Hello all, I was wondering if any Brummie locals out there could assist
>> me in finding decent places for food in Birmingham. Being in a strange
>> land it'd be nice to eat some good food! Does anyone know of any good
>> Chineses in the area or any recommendations on any other sorts of food
>> venues?
> 
> Firstly have a look at this:
> http://www.europython.eu/about/eatingout/
> 
> Secondly, we are a social lot here in Birmingham and so have arranged
> somewhere to go together each night:
> 
> http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable/
> 
>> With much thanks,
>> Chris.
>> --
>> Christopher Swift
>> http://launchpad.net/~chris
>>
>> PGP Key: 0x10A0B8E
>> <christopher.swift at linux.com>

I'd like to thank all those who responded and after seeing the
/talks/timetable page, it makes me glad to have asked since I've
overlooked that page a few times! It's good to see that we've got an
after-event for nearly every evening so far.

I just wonder if the Australian Bar can cope with 400 delegates...

Chris.
- --
Christopher Swift
http://launchpad.net/~chris

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From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 01:29:23 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:29:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Session chairs
In-Reply-To: <4A428006.7070707@tizmoi.net>
References: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se>
	<funthyme@gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906240507q5de8a9ddpf780ace4ee3ff062@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906241213.n5OCDDdi023153@theraft.openend.se>
	<ff8a32f0906240528o577ededfra0d51d93eafbc464@mail.gmail.com>
	<1245857747.5029.44.camel@launcelot.russel.org.uk>
	<ff8a32f0906240941i73016577x744636a01a18bb8d@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A428006.7070707@tizmoi.net>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906241629r65c9f9t3cbe329db51928dd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/24 Tim Couper <tim at tizmoi.net>

> 1. EP Organisers: If not already considered, could we arrange to have some
> indication on the badges for people who are session chairs?


Probably not, at this stage. At this stage we need to be realistic says he
sinking beneath the incoming tide of last minute stuff...

BUT we have distinctive Crew polo shirts and SCs can wear these.

>
>
> 2. Session Chairs: Could all you superstar session chairs try to locate me
> (as team captain) as early as possible at the conference .. so I know you're
> around (and who you are!) .. and if you are not going to be around, you'll
> need to get hold of me .. I'm reluctant to put my mobile on this open list,
> but if you could email me - tim at tizmoi.net - I'll mail you my mobile
> phone number .. and if you could give me yours that is likely to help [also
> if you have a photo on a webpage or facebook page, please send that link as
> it'll help me being able to recognise you ] ... :-)


If those of you who are coming the day before can get together socially that
would ease the pain on Tuesday morning.

best wishes,

John
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From martin at sourceguru.net  Thu Jun 25 01:30:35 2009
From: martin at sourceguru.net (Martin Meredith)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:30:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Volunteers Meeting?
Message-ID: <1245886235.4230.22.camel@lazy.suurceguru.net>

I've got (from somewhere) that there's a volunteers meeting for those
who can make it on Monday, at 5:15.

Where is this meeting being held?



From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 01:36:55 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:36:55 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] PGP/GPG Keysigning and CA Cert Assurance
Message-ID: <3e4e51a80906241636j41a770b8u9b79711c1cc76eb1@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Seems we have some CA Assurers attending the conference too! So this
means that the PGP/GPG keysigning will now be combined with a CA Cert
Assuarance event!

This a similar process to key signing though a bit more involved and
formal, more details from cacert.org wiki

http://wiki.cacert.org/wiki/FAQ/AssuranceDetails

There are slight differences in preparation and specifics on what to
bring to identify yourself. It is likely you will have these documents
with you if you are travelling internationally.

See you then.

Ciar?n

From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 01:45:07 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:45:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Volunteers Meeting?
In-Reply-To: <1245886235.4230.22.camel@lazy.suurceguru.net>
References: <1245886235.4230.22.camel@lazy.suurceguru.net>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906241645m77841127m69420a53283c9c21@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/25 Martin Meredith <martin at sourceguru.net>

> I've got (from somewhere) that there's a volunteers meeting for those
> who can make it on Monday, at 5:15.


>
> Where is this meeting being held?
>

There's bag stuffing etc etc at some time on Monday afternoon at the
Conservatoire.

John
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>
> _______________________________________________
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From kitblake at infrae.com  Thu Jun 25 07:14:12 2009
From: kitblake at infrae.com (Kit BLAKE)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:14:12 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
Message-ID: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com>

Hi,
Some of us are planning to go running while at the conference. Anybody  
know of a good route in the 5-10k range? I hear there's a canal in  
Birmingham. Often water is flanked by a continuous path, but nothing  
obvious shows in satellite photos.

People are welcome to join us. We go in the morning around 7:15. One  
of us, Christian Theune, will be there for the tutorials, while I'm  
arriving monday evening.

Kit

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From jan.ulrich at hasecke.com  Thu Jun 25 09:01:45 2009
From: jan.ulrich at hasecke.com (Jan Ulrich Hasecke)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:01:45 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Tango on Tuesday In Birmingham
Message-ID: <2C69739D-29BE-4BED-87AD-362977C47347@hasecke.com>

Hi all,

I found an intermediate class on Tuesday at the University.

http://www.tangobirmingham.co.uk/

  During the week there are no milongas AFAIK.

I think I'll attend the class. Its only 1 hour. Anybody interested?

Mit freundlichen Gr??en
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From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 09:50:49 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:50:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython]  EuroPython runners
In-Reply-To: <3e4e51a80906250034v32649a3ex186f0b50a7bcde00@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com>
	<3e4e51a80906250034v32649a3ex186f0b50a7bcde00@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

There are bloody loads of canals in Birmingham! The old cliche is
"more canals than Venice" which is true, however we are qutie a bit
bigger than Venice.

The nearest canal is just a short walk from the conference venue, and
it's even closer to some of the hotels on Broad Street.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.47742&mlon=-1.90982&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF

The red dotted line is the footpath/towpath, and the blue bit is ...
well the canal :)

I keep plugging OpenStreetMap because it has all this data that is
just no available in Google Maps.

You should be able to plan a decent route using that map, feel free to
print it off and hand it to your friends as it is  Creative
Commons-BY-SA

Have fun on your run, if I am feeling particularly healthy I may join you.

Ciar?n

From morten.brekkevold at uninett.no  Thu Jun 25 09:56:28 2009
From: morten.brekkevold at uninett.no (Morten Brekkevold)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:56:28 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Transportation, Dave Matthews Band in Wolverhampton
Message-ID: <yylws70rbkj.fsf@voldsminde.uninett.no>

Hello, and thanks for all the helpful tips for getting from the
airport and into Birmingham.

I have another transportation question, hoping that some locals can
help :)

A few days after registering for Europython 2009, I discovered, to my
delight, that Dave Matthews Band will be holding a concert at
Wolverhampton Civic Hall on Monday 29th, the same day I arrive in
Birmingham.  This is a nice bonus, I've never had the chance to see
them live before.

What would be the best way to get from Birmingham to Wolverhampton and
back?

Also, is anyone else going to the same concert?  Tickets are still
available, it seems:
http://www.wolvescivic.co.uk/index.asp?loc=whatsonshow&woid=13888

-- 
mvh
Morten Brekkevold
UNINETT

From russel.winder at concertant.com  Thu Jun 25 10:05:40 2009
From: russel.winder at concertant.com (Russel Winder)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:05:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906241431w270f1ce8ja5c44ecc73f367b0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
	<b1f5d7040906241431w270f1ce8ja5c44ecc73f367b0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1245917140.14663.100.camel@balin>

On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 22:31 +0100, Zeth wrote:
> 2009/6/24 Christopher Swift <christopher.swift at linux.com>:
> > Hello all, I was wondering if any Brummie locals out there could assist
> > me in finding decent places for food in Birmingham. Being in a strange
> > land it'd be nice to eat some good food! Does anyone know of any good
> > Chineses in the area or any recommendations on any other sorts of food
> > venues?
> 
> Firstly have a look at this:
> http://www.europython.eu/about/eatingout/

No mention of the Chinese restaurants on Ladywell Walk and Thorpe
Street, they surely deserve mention?  They are only a little bit
Anglicized -- and it helps more if you can take someone who speaks
Cantonese.

For "authentic" Indian food you may want to take a trip towards West
Bromwich or Scott Arms (on the way to Wallsall) -- being out of the city
centre and closer to the heart of the various Indian communities, the
food is more "authentic", less Anglicized.

> 
> Secondly, we are a social lot here in Birmingham and so have arranged
> somewhere to go together each night:
> 
> http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable/
> 
> >
> > With much thanks,
> > Chris.
> > --
> > Christopher Swift
> > http://launchpad.net/~chris
> >
> > PGP Key: 0x10A0B8E
> > <christopher.swift at linux.com>
> > _______________________________________________
> > EuroPython mailing list
> > EuroPython at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> >
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From ct at gocept.com  Thu Jun 25 10:14:17 2009
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:14:17 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
In-Reply-To: <3e4e51a80906250050y39e6f515yc58d1675ab7655d7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com>
	<3e4e51a80906250034v32649a3ex186f0b50a7bcde00@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4e51a80906250050y39e6f515yc58d1675ab7655d7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1245917657.25432.2.camel@mindy>

Hi,

On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 08:50 +0100, Ciar?n Mooney wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> There are bloody loads of canals in Birmingham! The old cliche is
> "more canals than Venice" which is true, however we are qutie a bit
> bigger than Venice.
> 
> The nearest canal is just a short walk from the conference venue, and
> it's even closer to some of the hotels on Broad Street.
> 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.47742&mlon=-1.90982&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF
> 
> The red dotted line is the footpath/towpath, and the blue bit is ...
> well the canal :)
> 
> I keep plugging OpenStreetMap because it has all this data that is
> just no available in Google Maps.
> 
> You should be able to plan a decent route using that map, feel free to
> print it off and hand it to your friends as it is  Creative
> Commons-BY-SA
> 
> Have fun on your run, if I am feeling particularly healthy I may join you.

Thanks for digging this up!

As I'm particularly picky about my route length and I'm an early arriver
I'll go for a run on saturday evening and try to establish a decent
route for the other days.

Christian

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From ales.zoulek at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 10:22:20 2009
From: ales.zoulek at gmail.com (Ales Zoulek)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:22:20 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Registration refund
Message-ID: <bbb0d4d80906250122t46e1979ap6af37c4bc98e6d3@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
my colleague booked the conference, but he can't make it (didn't get the
visa to UK), is it possible to get some refund for the registration fee?
Thank you very much,
Ales Zoulek
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From Udo.FLOEGEL at sprecher-automation.com  Thu Jun 25 10:17:19 2009
From: Udo.FLOEGEL at sprecher-automation.com (Udo FLOEGEL)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:17:19 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] tutorials & laptop
Message-ID: <OF040A3AE5.8DB9FEBC-ONC12575E0.0029E694-C12575E0.002D818A@sprecher-automation.com>

Hi,
for which tutorials where it's not explicity quoted having a laptop is at 
least very usefull?
Pls add this in the time table.

Udo
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From theology at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 10:30:00 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:30:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Transportation, Dave Matthews Band in Wolverhampton
In-Reply-To: <yylws70rbkj.fsf@voldsminde.uninett.no>
References: <yylws70rbkj.fsf@voldsminde.uninett.no>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906250130t158aee5co647c35660fa9922b@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/25 Morten Brekkevold <morten.brekkevold at uninett.no>:
> A few days after registering for Europython 2009, I discovered, to my
> delight, that Dave Matthews Band will be holding a concert at
> Wolverhampton Civic Hall on Monday 29th, the same day I arrive in
> Birmingham. ?This is a nice bonus, I've never had the chance to see
> them live before.

The West Midlands is cool place ;)

>
> What would be the best way to get from Birmingham to Wolverhampton and
> back?

In descending order of speed: Train from New Street, Metro from Snow
Hill or Bus from the cathedral.

From theology at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 10:36:18 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:36:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
In-Reply-To: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com>
References: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906250136w5ddc2122ycb67ade5d60eada0@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/25 Kit BLAKE <kitblake at infrae.com>:
> Hi,
> Some of us are planning to go running while at the conference. Anybody know
> of a good route in the 5-10k range? I hear there's a canal in Birmingham.
> Often water is flanked by a continuous path, but nothing obvious shows in
> satellite photos.

There is the River Rea trail, which is a stream going south from the
city centre through South Birmingham. It goes through various parks
and (no offence to anyone), South Birmingham is a bit friendlier and
greener than going into North Birmingham.

From theology at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 10:38:59 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:38:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906250136w5ddc2122ycb67ade5d60eada0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com>
	<b1f5d7040906250136w5ddc2122ycb67ade5d60eada0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906250138k2ac23ab3tf1c7e063fcbe31c3@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/25 Zeth <theology at gmail.com>:
> 2009/6/25 Kit BLAKE <kitblake at infrae.com>:
>> Hi,
>> Some of us are planning to go running while at the conference. Anybody know
>> of a good route in the 5-10k range? I hear there's a canal in Birmingham.
>> Often water is flanked by a continuous path, but nothing obvious shows in
>> satellite photos.
>
> There is the River Rea trail, which is a stream going south from the
> city centre through South Birmingham. It goes through various parks
> and (no offence to anyone), South Birmingham is a bit friendlier and
> greener than going into North Birmingham.

Although beyond the North of Birmingham, is Sutton Coldfield, which is
really nice to run around. One could a quick  train ride then run
around the National Nature Reserve:

http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/GenerateContent?CONTENT_ITEM_ID=2875&CONTENT_ITEM_TYPE=0&MENU_ID=1754

From kitblake at infrae.com  Thu Jun 25 10:47:19 2009
From: kitblake at infrae.com (Kit BLAKE)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:47:19 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906250136w5ddc2122ycb67ade5d60eada0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com>
	<b1f5d7040906250136w5ddc2122ycb67ade5d60eada0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <C4754E0A-EA72-4420-A3D6-389FAA9F945B@infrae.com>

On 25 Jun 2009, at 10:36, Zeth wrote:

> 2009/6/25 Kit BLAKE <kitblake at infrae.com>:
>> Hi,
>> Some of us are planning to go running while at the conference.  
>> Anybody know
>> of a good route in the 5-10k range? I hear there's a canal in  
>> Birmingham.
>> Often water is flanked by a continuous path, but nothing obvious  
>> shows in
>> satellite photos.
>
> There is the River Rea trail, which is a stream going south from the
> city centre through South Birmingham. It goes through various parks
> and (no offence to anyone), South Birmingham is a bit friendlier and
> greener than going into North Birmingham.

Thanks for the tip. I found it on openstreetmap.org:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.47742&mlon=-1.90982&zoom=16&layers=B000FTF

The map shows footpaths as red dotted lines, very convenient.

And now I see the other messages, you're a font of information! The  
River Rea trail looks beautiful, *especially* the industrial parts.

Kit


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From theology at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 10:41:19 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:41:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906250136w5ddc2122ycb67ade5d60eada0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com>
	<b1f5d7040906250136w5ddc2122ycb67ade5d60eada0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906250141r7df907f8x7c8b7f42c5d1b903@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/25 Zeth <theology at gmail.com>:
> 2009/6/25 Kit BLAKE <kitblake at infrae.com>:
>> Hi,
>> Some of us are planning to go running while at the conference. Anybody know
>> of a good route in the 5-10k range? I hear there's a canal in Birmingham.
>> Often water is flanked by a continuous path, but nothing obvious shows in
>> satellite photos.
>
> There is the River Rea trail, which is a stream going south from the
> city centre through South Birmingham. It goes through various parks
> and (no offence to anyone), South Birmingham is a bit friendlier and
> greener than going into North Birmingham.

Here is someone starting in South Birmingham and heading towards the
city centre.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/27763307 at N00/sets/72157616343181667/

From j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk  Thu Jun 25 11:03:34 2009
From: j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk (Jonathan Bowlas)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:03:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
In-Reply-To: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com>
References: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com>
Message-ID: <8d37bc060906250203m2d75dc99qd306d0d9091b8a79@mail.gmail.com>

here you go kit:

http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/GenerateContent?CONTENT_ITEM_ID=77274&CONTENT_ITEM_TYPE=0&MENU_ID=14179

You should be able to pick this map up at the tourist information
places dotted around the city.

Alternatively you can look here:

http://cycle.help2travel.co.uk/Document.aspx?W=0&G=0&D=0&S=0

It may say cycle routes but obviously you can use them for running.

J

2009/6/25 Kit BLAKE <kitblake at infrae.com>:
> Hi,
> Some of us are planning to go running while at the conference. Anybody know
> of a good route in the 5-10k range? I hear there's a canal in Birmingham.
> Often water is flanked by a continuous path, but nothing obvious shows in
> satellite photos.
>
> People are welcome to join us. We go in the morning around 7:15. One of us,
> Christian Theune, will be there for the tutorials, while I'm arriving monday
> evening.
>
> Kit
>
> --
> Kit BLAKE ? Infrae ? http://infrae.com/ + 31 10 243 7051
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>

From chef at ghum.de  Thu Jun 25 11:18:23 2009
From: chef at ghum.de (Massa, Harald Armin)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:18:23 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] tutorials & laptop
In-Reply-To: <OF040A3AE5.8DB9FEBC-ONC12575E0.0029E694-C12575E0.002D818A@sprecher-automation.com>
References: <OF040A3AE5.8DB9FEBC-ONC12575E0.0029E694-C12575E0.002D818A@sprecher-automation.com>
Message-ID: <e3e180dc0906250218q10d97dfdj200777ab16df9635@mail.gmail.com>

Udo,

a Laptop is generally very usefull during EuroPython, for sharing code,
discussing, demonstrating, helping the speaker out.
During tutorials just even more.

I would even state it is part of the dress-code for all events except the
dinner-ones.  (more then 50% of EuroPythoneers are walking around with
laptops, sublaptops, ...)

(I will ask people to use laptops during my talk, and it is a classic talk
without tutorialing)

Harald

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Udo FLOEGEL <
Udo.FLOEGEL at sprecher-automation.com> wrote:

>
> Hi,
> for which tutorials where it's not explicity quoted having a laptop is at
> least very usefull?
> Pls add this in the time table.
>
> Udo
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>


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From j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk  Thu Jun 25 11:24:38 2009
From: j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk (Jonathan Bowlas)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:24:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
References: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
Message-ID: <8d37bc060906250224m47480a57laf0022ed7f7cf424@mail.gmail.com>

We cater for all tastes here in Birmingham but I'd advise taking a look here:

http://www.birmingham-eating.com

Top of the range would be Purnell's (you may have seen the chef Glyn
Purnell on the Great British Menu)
http://www.purnellsrestaurant.com/index.html nr the venue, or
Jessica's in Edgbaston  I believe both of these have Michelin stars -
at the other end of the scale you have a Birmingham institution Mr Egg
on Hurst street.

http://russelldavies.typepad.com/eggbaconchipsandbeans/2005/04/mr_egg_22_hurst.html

If you're after a great burger you cant go wrong with this place:
http://www.handmadeburger.co.uk/

Cheers

Jon

2009/6/24 Christopher Swift <christopher.swift at linux.com>:
> Hello all, I was wondering if any Brummie locals out there could assist
> me in finding decent places for food in Birmingham. Being in a strange
> land it'd be nice to eat some good food! Does anyone know of any good
> Chineses in the area or any recommendations on any other sorts of food
> venues?
>
> With much thanks,
> Chris.
> --
> Christopher Swift
> http://launchpad.net/~chris
>
> PGP Key: 0x10A0B8E
> <christopher.swift at linux.com>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>

From russel.winder at concertant.com  Thu Jun 25 11:43:02 2009
From: russel.winder at concertant.com (Russel Winder)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:43:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <8d37bc060906250224m47480a57laf0022ed7f7cf424@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
	<8d37bc060906250224m47480a57laf0022ed7f7cf424@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1245922982.14663.139.camel@balin>

On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 10:24 +0100, Jonathan Bowlas wrote:
[ . . . ]
> http://www.purnellsrestaurant.com/index.html nr the venue, or
> Jessica's in Edgbaston  I believe both of these have Michelin stars -
> at the other end of the scale you have a Birmingham institution Mr Egg
> on Hurst street.

Didn't Jessica's close to be replaced by Pascal's ?

I have to admit to being up to trying Purnell's one evening if there was
a small group of us and we can get a table.

[ . . . ]
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From theology at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 10:59:19 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:59:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
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2009/6/25 Kit BLAKE <kitblake at infrae.com>:
> And now I see the other messages, you're a font of information! The River
> Rea trail looks beautiful, *especially* the industrial parts.

This list might eat attachments, but I have (tried) to attach the
council's not-very-useful leaflet.
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From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 11:12:48 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:12:48 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners^H^H^H^H^H^H^H skaters
Message-ID: <ced5f0f60906250212h229bebbob92241b3b2063688@mail.gmail.com>

kit, hi, you prompted me to look up if there are any skating
facilities in birmingham, and it turns out that birmingham has the
uk's only outdoor rollerblade race track!  there's a club (open to
anyone) that has access to the track on saturday mornings, 9:30am to
11am, where they will teach anyone who's willing to turn up (skate
hire + pads ?3 if you don't have your own).
http://www.birminghamwheelsrsc.net/

as i've skated in every major city i've been to (just showing off here
:) - canberra, berlin, shanghai, bangalore - i can't possibly turn the
opportunity down.

bus 8A takes you directly to the wheels park.

if saturday 9:30am is too adventurous, then at least amongst 350 or so
people there must surely be someone else interested in skating: if so
and you'd like to do random street skates or find a park do let me
know.

l.

p.s. kit, cristian, btw: if you find a decent _flat_ route with no
gravel i'll happily come with you on skates by the canals :)

On 6/25/09, Kit BLAKE <kitblake at infrae.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>  Some of us are planning to go running while at the conference. Anybody know
> of a good route in the 5-10k range? I hear there's a canal in Birmingham.
> Often water is flanked by a continuous path, but nothing obvious shows in
> satellite photos.

From oskar at sad.it  Thu Jun 25 12:32:22 2009
From: oskar at sad.it (Stuffer Oskar)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:32:22 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Tutorials Advanced Check-in
In-Reply-To: <20090616153906.15715.3435@clocks3.dh.bytemark.co.uk>
References: <20090616153906.15715.3435@clocks3.dh.bytemark.co.uk>
Message-ID: <4A435236.9020808@sad.it>

Hello!

I made the online registration to Europython for 2 delegates of my company
and always inserted my own email adress.
A single copy of the email for the tutorials advanced check-in was sent to
my email adress. Could you also send a copy of the email to
lisa.concli_AT_sad.it?


Best regards,
Oskar Stuffer


tutorials at europython.eu wrote:
> Due to the large number of bookings, we have decided to allow advanced 
> check-in, so that you can be sure of getting into the EuroPython 
> tutorials that you want.
> 
> Please click on the following link to check-in:
> 
> http://www.europython.eu/tutorials/checkin/0c5d77afe04c42ed20ae563f012e1/
> 
> Best Wishes,
> EuroPython Team
> 
> 
> 



From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 12:12:04 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:12:04 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] tutorials & laptop
In-Reply-To: <OF040A3AE5.8DB9FEBC-ONC12575E0.0029E694-C12575E0.002D818A@sprecher-automation.com>
References: <OF040A3AE5.8DB9FEBC-ONC12575E0.0029E694-C12575E0.002D818A@sprecher-automation.com>
Message-ID: <ced5f0f60906250312w1df45c3exc566b393f92d8c01@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/25/09, Udo FLOEGEL <Udo.FLOEGEL at sprecher-automation.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> for which tutorials where it's not explicity quoted having a laptop is at
> least very usefull?

 ahh, for the pyjamas one it'll be essential.  the lovely trite phrase
"doing is learning" is true, and i'd like to cover quite a bit of
ground, so...

 that having been said, i'm sure that people could team up....

From jan.troler at digitaltv-labs.com  Thu Jun 25 12:34:06 2009
From: jan.troler at digitaltv-labs.com (Jan Troler)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:34:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] 1 day conference place
Message-ID: <4A43529E.5060103@digitaltv-labs.com>

Dear Organizers,
is it possible to subscribe to the conference events just for one day
instead for all thee?

Thank You,
Jan Troler

From j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk  Thu Jun 25 13:49:44 2009
From: j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk (Jonathan Bowlas)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:49:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
In-Reply-To: <ced5f0f60906250443hdae3e0fif0eaf806ddcc6aae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com> 
	<8d37bc060906250203m2d75dc99qd306d0d9091b8a79@mail.gmail.com> 
	<ced5f0f60906250443hdae3e0fif0eaf806ddcc6aae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d37bc060906250449v5b2af3b4l6b98c39241a327a0@mail.gmail.com>

But often gravel around the canal.

J

2009/6/25 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <luke.leighton at googlemail.com>:
>> ?Alternatively you can look here:
>>
>> ?http://cycle.help2travel.co.uk/Document.aspx?W=0&G=0&D=0&S=0
>>
>> ?It may say cycle routes but obviously you can use them for running.
>
> oo! ?cycle routes equals flaaaat, looovely smmoooth paaaths _great_
> for skating :)
>
>

From stephenemslie at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 13:55:15 2009
From: stephenemslie at gmail.com (Stephen Emslie)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:55:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
In-Reply-To: <51f97e530906250454g25cb56f2v52c03363dcd2720d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com> 
	<8d37bc060906250203m2d75dc99qd306d0d9091b8a79@mail.gmail.com> 
	<ced5f0f60906250443hdae3e0fif0eaf806ddcc6aae@mail.gmail.com> 
	<8d37bc060906250449v5b2af3b4l6b98c39241a327a0@mail.gmail.com> 
	<51f97e530906250454g25cb56f2v52c03363dcd2720d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <51f97e530906250455o69f7e9eaub057807a39fcf47f@mail.gmail.com>

I reckon I'll need to stretch my legs after the conf, so I'll bring my
skates along. Any other slalom skaters amongst the conference-goers?

(sorry for the duplicate email Jonathan)

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Stephen Emslie<stephenemslie at gmail.com> wrote:
> I reckon I'll need to stretch my legs after the conf, so I'll bring my
> skates along. Any other slalom skaters amongst the conference-goers?
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Jonathan Bowlas<j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
>> But often gravel around the canal.
>>
>> J
>>
>> 2009/6/25 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <luke.leighton at googlemail.com>:
>>>> ?Alternatively you can look here:
>>>>
>>>> ?http://cycle.help2travel.co.uk/Document.aspx?W=0&G=0&D=0&S=0
>>>>
>>>> ?It may say cycle routes but obviously you can use them for running.
>>>
>>> oo! ?cycle routes equals flaaaat, looovely smmoooth paaaths _great_
>>> for skating :)
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>

From solipsis at pitrou.net  Thu Jun 25 14:01:25 2009
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:01:25 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <1245922982.14663.139.camel@balin>
References: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
	<8d37bc060906250224m47480a57laf0022ed7f7cf424@mail.gmail.com>
	<1245922982.14663.139.camel@balin>
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I'd be glad to try some food in Birmingham, and am arriving on Sunday
(trying some food in England - there seems to be something wrong in that
phrase)

Purnell looks a bit expensive however, especially the wines :-O


Le jeudi 25 juin 2009 ? 10:43 +0100, Russel Winder a ?crit :
> On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 10:24 +0100, Jonathan Bowlas wrote:
> [ . . . ]
> > http://www.purnellsrestaurant.com/index.html nr the venue, or
> > Jessica's in Edgbaston  I believe both of these have Michelin stars -
> > at the other end of the scale you have a Birmingham institution Mr Egg
> > on Hurst street.
> 
> Didn't Jessica's close to be replaced by Pascal's ?
> 
> I have to admit to being up to trying Purnell's one evening if there was
> a small group of us and we can get a table.
> 
> [ . . . ]



From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 13:43:41 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 11:43:41 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
In-Reply-To: <8d37bc060906250203m2d75dc99qd306d0d9091b8a79@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com>
	<8d37bc060906250203m2d75dc99qd306d0d9091b8a79@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ced5f0f60906250443hdae3e0fif0eaf806ddcc6aae@mail.gmail.com>

>  Alternatively you can look here:
>
>  http://cycle.help2travel.co.uk/Document.aspx?W=0&G=0&D=0&S=0
>
>  It may say cycle routes but obviously you can use them for running.

oo!  cycle routes equals flaaaat, looovely smmoooth paaaths _great_
for skating :)

From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 14:37:23 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:37:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] 1 day conference place
In-Reply-To: <4A43529E.5060103@digitaltv-labs.com>
References: <4A43529E.5060103@digitaltv-labs.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906250537m40450debud9f07abb371f6869@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,

2009/6/25 Jan Troler <jan.troler at digitaltv-labs.com>

> Dear Organizers,
> is it possible to subscribe to the conference events just for one day
> instead for all thee?
>

We don't normally do this, but if you approach us on an individual basis we
may be able to help.

Best wishes,

John
--


>
> Thank You,
> Jan Troler
> _______________________________________________
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> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 15:04:21 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:04:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <1245931285.5456.6.camel@localhost>
References: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
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Hi,

2009/6/25 Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net>

>
> I'd be glad to try some food in Birmingham, and am arriving on Sunday
> (trying some food in England - there seems to be something wrong in that
> phrase)
>
> Purnell looks a bit expensive however, especially the wines :-O
>
>
try www.jyotis.co.uk.

take your own wine.

John
--


>
> Le jeudi 25 juin 2009 ? 10:43 +0100, Russel Winder a ?crit :
> > On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 10:24 +0100, Jonathan Bowlas wrote:
> > [ . . . ]
> > > http://www.purnellsrestaurant.com/index.html nr the venue, or
> > > Jessica's in Edgbaston  I believe both of these have Michelin stars -
> > > at the other end of the scale you have a Birmingham institution Mr Egg
> > > on Hurst street.
> >
> > Didn't Jessica's close to be replaced by Pascal's ?
> >
> > I have to admit to being up to trying Purnell's one evening if there was
> > a small group of us and we can get a table.
> >
> > [ . . . ]
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From marc.hausard at cc.in2p3.fr  Thu Jun 25 14:37:18 2009
From: marc.hausard at cc.in2p3.fr (Marc HAUSARD)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:37:18 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <1245931285.5456.6.camel@localhost>
References: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>	<8d37bc060906250224m47480a57laf0022ed7f7cf424@mail.gmail.com>	<1245922982.14663.139.camel@balin>
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Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> I'd be glad to try some food in Birmingham, and am arriving on Sunday
> (trying some food in England - there seems to be something wrong in that
> phrase)

Don't be mistaken, England (and Birmingham) might be the best european
country to have asiatic cuisine.

Definitely not the best place for wine, though.

> 
> Purnell looks a bit expensive however, especially the wines :-O
> 
> 
> Le jeudi 25 juin 2009 ? 10:43 +0100, Russel Winder a ?crit :
>> On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 10:24 +0100, Jonathan Bowlas wrote:
>> [ . . . ]
>>> http://www.purnellsrestaurant.com/index.html nr the venue, or
>>> Jessica's in Edgbaston  I believe both of these have Michelin stars -
>>> at the other end of the scale you have a Birmingham institution Mr Egg
>>> on Hurst street.
>> Didn't Jessica's close to be replaced by Pascal's ?
>>
>> I have to admit to being up to trying Purnell's one evening if there was
>> a small group of us and we can get a table.
>>
>> [ . . . ]
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

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From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 15:38:39 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:38:39 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
In-Reply-To: <8d37bc060906250449v5b2af3b4l6b98c39241a327a0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <EA4F9AA2-49EF-4801-82A5-AD1541D60B7E@infrae.com>
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On 6/25/09, Jonathan Bowlas <j.bowlas at ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> But often gravel around the canal.

 oo, bad. you can get hybrid shoe-runner / skates (used a lot by
police forces) but.... pfhh.

From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 15:47:46 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:47:46 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython runners
In-Reply-To: <51f97e530906250455o69f7e9eaub057807a39fcf47f@mail.gmail.com>
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On 6/25/09, Stephen Emslie <stephenemslie at gmail.com> wrote:
> I reckon I'll need to stretch my legs after the conf, so I'll bring my
>  skates along. Any other slalom skaters amongst the conference-goers?

 yaay that's 2.  i'm bringing along a spare pair of skates [and pads
if i can find them] if there are people who want to have a go.  if you
can ski, you have a good chance of staying upright.

From solipsis at pitrou.net  Thu Jun 25 16:08:08 2009
From: solipsis at pitrou.net (Antoine Pitrou)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:08:08 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
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Le jeudi 25 juin 2009 ? 14:37 +0200, Marc HAUSARD a ?crit :
> Antoine Pitrou wrote:
> > I'd be glad to try some food in Birmingham, and am arriving on Sunday
> > (trying some food in England - there seems to be something wrong in that
> > phrase)
> 
> Don't be mistaken, England (and Birmingham) might be the best european
> country to have asiatic cuisine.

Right, Asian food in France is generally unimpressive.
So, who's there on Sunday noon ?




From yoann.aubineau at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 16:55:01 2009
From: yoann.aubineau at gmail.com (Yoann Aubineau)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:55:01 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <1245938888.5456.50.camel@localhost>
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I'm sooo eager to pounce on the first Burger King I find! Definitely
not the best food on earth, but you know, scarcity creates envy. ;)
Otherwise, anyone knows a _good_ fish and chips out there ?

2009/6/25 Antoine Pitrou <solipsis at pitrou.net>:
> Le jeudi 25 juin 2009 ? 14:37 +0200, Marc HAUSARD a ?crit :
>> Antoine Pitrou wrote:
>> > I'd be glad to try some food in Birmingham, and am arriving on Sunday
>> > (trying some food in England - there seems to be something wrong in that
>> > phrase)
>>
>> Don't be mistaken, England (and Birmingham) might be the best european
>> country to have asiatic cuisine.
>
> Right, Asian food in France is generally unimpressive.
> So, who's there on Sunday noon ?
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 17:10:14 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:10:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
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References: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
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> Otherwise, anyone knows a _good_ fish and chips out there ?

Not in central Birmingham, have to go to the suburbs usually

From carlo.hamalainen at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 17:00:37 2009
From: carlo.hamalainen at gmail.com (Carlo Hamalainen)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:00:37 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Antoine Pitrou<solipsis at pitrou.net> wrote:
> Right, Asian food in France is generally unimpressive.
> So, who's there on Sunday noon ?

I'll be around Saturday and Sunday. I just noticed that the Birmingham
International Food Fair is on Sunday:
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/food-fair.bcc

Check out the aussie game meats :)

-- 
Carlo Hamalainen
http://carlo-hamalainen.net

From cs at comlounge.net  Thu Jun 25 17:26:36 2009
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:26:36 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
Message-ID: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net>

Hi!

I am arriving on saturday at 1700 at Birmingham Airport and I am
wondering if there is some meetup planned for early arrivers.

-- Christian


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From orestis at orestis.gr  Thu Jun 25 17:21:36 2009
From: orestis at orestis.gr (Orestis Markou)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:21:36 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Help me finalise my PyObjC talk!
Message-ID: <A8ADCA31-3AAE-4798-BF7C-6E9E2BDBACDC@orestis.gr>

Hi all fellow EuroPythoneers,

I've finally managed to shake free from work obligations, and I have  
3-4 days to finalise my slides for the PyObjC talk (Wednesday 15.00,  
Lecture Room 1).

If you are planning to attend my talk, I'd be grateful if you could  
give some input about what you'd be interested to hear. If the list is  
not the place to have such a discussion, you can leave a comment at my  
blog [1].

[1]: http://orestis.gr/blog/2009/06/01/come-see-my-pyobjc-introduction-europython/

Thank you in advance,
Orestis




From lrowe at jarn.com  Thu Jun 25 18:26:19 2009
From: lrowe at jarn.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Laurence_Rowe_=B7_Jarn?=)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:26:19 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn Hotel on Booking Form
Message-ID: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I've signed up for a room at the Premier Inn on the booking form.
Which hotel does this refer to? (I'll be going directly to the hotel
on Monday evening).

Regards,

Laurence

From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 18:40:08 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:40:08 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Help me finalise my PyObjC talk!
In-Reply-To: <A8ADCA31-3AAE-4798-BF7C-6E9E2BDBACDC@orestis.gr>
References: <A8ADCA31-3AAE-4798-BF7C-6E9E2BDBACDC@orestis.gr>
Message-ID: <ced5f0f60906250940g5bfdf5deyef90fed3186b5cd9@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Orestis Markou<orestis at orestis.gr> wrote:
> Hi all fellow EuroPythoneers,
>
> I've finally managed to shake free from work obligations, and I have 3-4
> days to finalise my slides for the PyObjC talk (Wednesday 15.00, Lecture
> Room 1).
>
> If you are planning to attend my talk, I'd be grateful if you could give
> some input about what you'd be interested to hear. If the list is not the
> place to have such a discussion, you can leave a comment at my blog [1].

 i'd like to see how you can use the objective-c bindings of webkit
DOM - on an actual free software platform not a proprietary macosx
one.  if that's possible.

 l.

From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 18:50:08 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:50:08 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Help me finalise my PyObjC talk!
In-Reply-To: <ced5f0f60906250940g5bfdf5deyef90fed3186b5cd9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A8ADCA31-3AAE-4798-BF7C-6E9E2BDBACDC@orestis.gr>
	<ced5f0f60906250940g5bfdf5deyef90fed3186b5cd9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ced5f0f60906250950nc796161u8f7d2823858e7ce8@mail.gmail.com>

http://pyobjc.sourceforge.net/examples/pyobjc-framework-WebKit/WebKitInterpreterPlugin/source--WebKitInterpreter.py.html

wow - is that an NPAPI plugin (for webkit), but in... python??


ok - the reason i'm interested in this is because when i first started
on webkit, i thought "python bindings to a DOM model would make a
stonking desktop widget API".  so i looked around.  python-xpcom was a
pile of pants.  i spoke to apple developers, they said, "oh, yes, you
can use the objective-c bindings and then use python bindings to
those, that way you get access to the DOM".  i said, "does that work
on gnu/linux platforms?" and they didn't really answer.

so, anyway, i went ahead and added glib/gobject bindings to webkit,
and then put python bindings on top of those, and then got into a
bun-fight with apple employees over their fascist dictatorship style
of management of webkit.

so - i'm looking for an alternative, and an answer to the original
question: can you get pyobjc to work (somehow) on free software
platforms?

l.

From q at clocksoft.com  Thu Jun 25 18:56:40 2009
From: q at clocksoft.com (Quentin Wright)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:56:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn Hotel on Booking Form
In-Reply-To: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A43AC48.8010403@clocksoft.com>

Laurence Rowe ? Jarn wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've signed up for a room at the Premier Inn on the booking form.
> Which hotel does this refer to? (I'll be going directly to the hotel
> on Monday evening).
>
> Regards,
>
> Laurence
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>   
Hi Laurence,

It's the Canalside Premier Inn, see
http://www.europython.eu/about/accommodation/

Q


From sparks.m at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 19:01:13 2009
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:01:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sunday Tutorials venues
Message-ID: <20e5c9660906251001s6964f440n143339516d453313@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,


I note that the room names for the tutorials have been allocated now, with
Sunday listed as:

Library Theatre, Shakespeare Room, Lecture Room 3, CBSO Ratcliff Room

Curious about capacities I did a web search, and discovered hints that the
CBSO Ratcliff Room is in a different venue from the others:
   * http://www.artscentral.co.uk/DisplayPage.asp?pageid=7639

If this is the case (ie there isn't a CBSO Ratcliff Room in the
conservatoire), could this be confirmed and added to the official
docs ?

Also, will people need to register at the conservatoire first and then walk
down to the CBSO on the sunday morning?

If right, is this the route to take ?
   * http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=2949167

Or can people come straight there in the morning, and then come back to the
conservatoire at lunchtime to register ? :-)

I'm mainly asking so that I don't go to the wrong place first !

If I've got this completely wrong, please let me know :-)

Regards,


Michael.
-- 
http://yeoldeclue.com/blog
http://twitter.com/kamaelian
http://www.kamaelia.org/Home

From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 19:27:52 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:27:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sunday Tutorials venues
In-Reply-To: <20e5c9660906251001s6964f440n143339516d453313@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20e5c9660906251001s6964f440n143339516d453313@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906251027p3233f65cj3bc29ea3022faccb@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

2009/6/25 Michael Sparks <sparks.m at gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
>
> I note that the room names for the tutorials have been allocated now, with
> Sunday listed as:
>
> Library Theatre, Shakespeare Room, Lecture Room 3, CBSO Ratcliff Room
>
> Curious about capacities I did a web search, and discovered hints that the
> CBSO Ratcliff Room is in a different venue from the others:
>   * http://www.artscentral.co.uk/DisplayPage.asp?pageid=7639
>
> If this is the case (ie there isn't a CBSO Ratcliff Room in the
> conservatoire), could this be confirmed and added to the official
> docs ?
>

 It will be added somewhere, buy someone (you could add it to the wiki, of
course).

The Ratcliff Room can take about 40 people, you have 22 checked into the
Kamaelia tutorial (which I guess means about 30 will show up).

>
> Also, will people need to register at the conservatoire first and then walk
> down to the CBSO on the sunday morning?


yes, they can if they wish, or...


>
>
> If right, is this the route to take ?
>   * http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=2949167
>

yes.

>
> Or can people come straight there in the morning, and then come back to the
> conservatoire at lunchtime to register ? :-)
>

Yes, if they wish. For anyone staying at the Premier Inn and Etap on
Saturday night, this is the best plan. We will try and let them know on
Saturday evening.

>
> I'm mainly asking so that I don't go to the wrong place first !
>

For you, as the Tutor, you would be best going to the CBSO Centre direct to
set up. Are you coming the night before so we can get someone to meet and
help you?

>
> If I've got this completely wrong, please let me know :-)


You have it exactly right and have saved me having to tell you (one of
tomorrow's jobs).

The problem is that not everyone registered for tutorials has checked into
them, so we don't know who to tell what. So it's quite acceptable for them
to go to the Conservatoire first.


Best wishes,

John
--


> Regards,
>
>
> Michael.
> --
> http://yeoldeclue.com/blog
> http://twitter.com/kamaelian
> http://www.kamaelia.org/Home
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From orestis at orestis.gr  Thu Jun 25 19:32:20 2009
From: orestis at orestis.gr (Orestis Markou)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:32:20 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Help me finalise my PyObjC talk!
In-Reply-To: <ced5f0f60906250950nc796161u8f7d2823858e7ce8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A8ADCA31-3AAE-4798-BF7C-6E9E2BDBACDC@orestis.gr>
	<ced5f0f60906250940g5bfdf5deyef90fed3186b5cd9@mail.gmail.com>
	<ced5f0f60906250950nc796161u8f7d2823858e7ce8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <63F8293C-DECC-4601-B1E9-81C74FFAAF73@orestis.gr>

Hi Luke,

this is best suited for the pyobjc-dev list, but the summary is that  
no, pyobjc works only the mac, simply because while ObjC itself is a  
free standard, the only mature libraries/runtime are Apple's. There is  
GNUStep, which aims to reimplement a lot of things for free software  
platforms, but AFAIK it's been unmaintained for some time now, and  
therefore support for it was removed from PyObjC.

Orestis


On 25 Jun 2009, at 19:50, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:

> http://pyobjc.sourceforge.net/examples/pyobjc-framework-WebKit/WebKitInterpreterPlugin/source--WebKitInterpreter.py.html
>
> wow - is that an NPAPI plugin (for webkit), but in... python??
>
>
> ok - the reason i'm interested in this is because when i first started
> on webkit, i thought "python bindings to a DOM model would make a
> stonking desktop widget API".  so i looked around.  python-xpcom was a
> pile of pants.  i spoke to apple developers, they said, "oh, yes, you
> can use the objective-c bindings and then use python bindings to
> those, that way you get access to the DOM".  i said, "does that work
> on gnu/linux platforms?" and they didn't really answer.
>
> so, anyway, i went ahead and added glib/gobject bindings to webkit,
> and then put python bindings on top of those, and then got into a
> bun-fight with apple employees over their fascist dictatorship style
> of management of webkit.
>
> so - i'm looking for an alternative, and an answer to the original
> question: can you get pyobjc to work (somehow) on free software
> platforms?
>
> l.


From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 19:41:42 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:41:42 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Help me finalise my PyObjC talk!
In-Reply-To: <63F8293C-DECC-4601-B1E9-81C74FFAAF73@orestis.gr>
References: <A8ADCA31-3AAE-4798-BF7C-6E9E2BDBACDC@orestis.gr>
	<ced5f0f60906250940g5bfdf5deyef90fed3186b5cd9@mail.gmail.com>
	<ced5f0f60906250950nc796161u8f7d2823858e7ce8@mail.gmail.com>
	<63F8293C-DECC-4601-B1E9-81C74FFAAF73@orestis.gr>
Message-ID: <ced5f0f60906251041g7db50d9bi257f274aa8bfbb47@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Orestis Markou<orestis at orestis.gr> wrote:
> Hi Luke,
>
> this is best suited for the pyobjc-dev list, but the summary is that no,
> pyobjc works only the mac, simply because while ObjC itself is a free
> standard, the only mature libraries/runtime are Apple's. There is GNUStep,
> which aims to reimplement a lot of things for free software platforms, but
> AFAIK it's been unmaintained for some time now, and therefore support for it
> was removed from PyObjC.

 *deflate*.  ok, that's what i thought.  but, through gnustep, there
is at least hope.  thank you.

 btw if you have any demos of how to do DOM manipulation, i will still
be very interested, because it will be a start (albeit a mac-specific
one).

 something like this:

 doc = {somethingWrappedFromWebKitViaPyObjC}.document
 body = doc.getElementsByTagName['body'].item(0)
 body.appendChild(doc.createTextNode("hello!"))

literally like that - yes i know it looks like javascript, but it
isn't, it's python.

if you can show me how that's done i will be paying attention and in
the front row :)

l.

From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 19:55:01 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:55:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
In-Reply-To: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net>
References: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906251055x80138d6w4749e021027be3dc@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!

2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>

> Hi!
>
> I am arriving on saturday at 1700 at Birmingham Airport and I am
> wondering if there is some meetup planned for early arrivers.


I'm sorry, we've been a bit too busy for that!

We may see if the Zagora has room for us
http://europython.eu/about/eatingout/ and see maps.google.co.uk

The area around Broad Street near the conference venue is the night life
centre of the city, and unless you like hundreds of noisy drunken young
people and loud music is best kept away from on a Saturday night!

John
--


>
> -- Christian
>
>
> --
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> COM.lounge GmbH                              blog: http://mrtopf.de/blog
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From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 19:58:48 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 17:58:48 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Help me finalise my PyObjC talk!
In-Reply-To: <ced5f0f60906251041g7db50d9bi257f274aa8bfbb47@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A8ADCA31-3AAE-4798-BF7C-6E9E2BDBACDC@orestis.gr>
	<ced5f0f60906250940g5bfdf5deyef90fed3186b5cd9@mail.gmail.com>
	<ced5f0f60906250950nc796161u8f7d2823858e7ce8@mail.gmail.com>
	<63F8293C-DECC-4601-B1E9-81C74FFAAF73@orestis.gr>
	<ced5f0f60906251041g7db50d9bi257f274aa8bfbb47@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ced5f0f60906251058t7ea1f2bcqc103183ae72c155c@mail.gmail.com>

sorry, orestis, hit send too early: how to set up event listeners as
well.  i.e. how to add a python callback onto e.g. window.resize and
onto W3C Element (actually Node) "click" listener.

i have an example which is using python-hulahop which is python
bindings to XUL / Gecko, here:
http://lkcl.net/pyjamas/python-xpcom.tgz  the key file is hula.py

intuitively using PyObjC + cocoa, i would expect things to be pretty
identical to this:

        listener = xpcom.server.WrapObject(ContentInvoker(self),
                                            interfaces.nsIDOMEventListener)
        self.window_root.addEventListener('click', listener, False)

where ContentInvoker has a function handleEvent, which in the example does this:

    def handleEvent(self, event):
        print event

duh :)

clue?

From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Thu Jun 25 19:48:43 2009
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:48:43 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] OT Re:  PyObjC bindings for Webkit
In-Reply-To: <ced5f0f60906251041g7db50d9bi257f274aa8bfbb47@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A8ADCA31-3AAE-4798-BF7C-6E9E2BDBACDC@orestis.gr>
	<ced5f0f60906250940g5bfdf5deyef90fed3186b5cd9@mail.gmail.com>
	<ced5f0f60906250950nc796161u8f7d2823858e7ce8@mail.gmail.com>
	<63F8293C-DECC-4601-B1E9-81C74FFAAF73@orestis.gr>
	<ced5f0f60906251041g7db50d9bi257f274aa8bfbb47@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.uv3c3hjq5mynk9@fuchsia.local>

Am 25.06.2009, 19:41 Uhr, schrieb Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton  
<luke.leighton at googlemail.com>:

>  something like this:
> doc = {somethingWrappedFromWebKitViaPyObjC}.document
>  body = doc.getElementsByTagName['body'].item(0)
>  body.appendChild(doc.createTextNode("hello!"))

Any reason this *has* to be with Webkit's DOM toolkit?

Charlie

From sparks.m at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 20:06:08 2009
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:06:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sunday Tutorials venues
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906251027p3233f65cj3bc29ea3022faccb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20e5c9660906251001s6964f440n143339516d453313@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906251027p3233f65cj3bc29ea3022faccb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20e5c9660906251106h5d973542g34c1f1cb7351add1@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:27 PM, John Pinner<funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/6/25 Michael Sparks <sparks.m at gmail.com>
>> ...  CBSO Ratcliff Room
>>
>> Curious about capacities I did a web search, and discovered hints that the
>> CBSO Ratcliff Room is in a different venue from the others:
>>   * http://www.artscentral.co.uk/DisplayPage.asp?pageid=7639
>>
>> If this is the case (ie there isn't a CBSO Ratcliff Room in the
>> conservatoire), could this be confirmed and added to the official
>> docs ?
>
>  It will be added somewhere, buy someone (you could add it to the wiki, of
> course).

I'll add it to the wiki this evening, with details of how to get there etc.

> Yes, if they wish. For anyone staying at the Premier Inn and Etap on
> Saturday night, this is the best plan. We will try and let them know on
> Saturday evening.

Much appreciated.

> For you, as the Tutor, you would be best going to the CBSO Centre direct to
> set up. Are you coming the night before so we can get someone to meet and
> help you?

I am coming down on saturday, time yet TBD. (Was thinking of getting to Brum
around 6 or 7pm, but if it'd make things easier I can travel sooner. Can take
that off list if you like :)

> You have it exactly right and have saved me having to tell you (one of
> tomorrow's jobs).

:-)

> The problem is that not everyone registered for tutorials has checked into
> them, so we don't know who to tell what. So it's quite acceptable for them
> to go to the Conservatoire first.

That was what I wondered. I'll probably restructure some stuff, a little, as
a result.

Regards,


Michael.

From marius at gedmin.as  Thu Jun 25 19:54:50 2009
From: marius at gedmin.as (Marius Gedminas)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:54:50 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn Hotel on Booking Form
In-Reply-To: <4A43AC48.8010403@clocksoft.com>
References: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A43AC48.8010403@clocksoft.com>
Message-ID: <20090625175450.GA4830@platonas>

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 05:56:40PM +0100, Quentin Wright wrote:
> Laurence Rowe ? Jarn wrote:
> > I've signed up for a room at the Premier Inn on the booking form.
> > Which hotel does this refer to? (I'll be going directly to the hotel
> > on Monday evening).
> 
> It's the Canalside Premier Inn, see
> http://www.europython.eu/about/accommodation/

Has anyone made a custom public Google map with the venue and some of the
more popular hotels marked on it?

(The answer appears to be "no, not for EuroPython 2009", but I hope my
question will inspire somebody to do it.  If not, I'll probably do it
this weekend.)

Marius Gedminas
-- 
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programmers.  The only thing wrong with it is it's about Perl...
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From tartley at tartley.com  Thu Jun 25 20:16:12 2009
From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:16:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn Hotel on Booking Form
In-Reply-To: <19645447.1245953451669.JavaMail.root@n17>
References: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>	<4A43AC48.8010403@clocksoft.com>
	<19645447.1245953451669.JavaMail.root@n17>
Message-ID: <4A43BEEC.6090107@tartley.com>

There's one here:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=104670010414967360724.0004394ea19c66425808f&om=1&source=embed&ll=52.477057,-1.906376&spn=0.01767,0.036693&z=15



Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 05:56:40PM +0100, Quentin Wright wrote:
>   
>> Laurence Rowe ? Jarn wrote:
>>     
>>> I've signed up for a room at the Premier Inn on the booking form.
>>> Which hotel does this refer to? (I'll be going directly to the hotel
>>> on Monday evening).
>>>       
>> It's the Canalside Premier Inn, see
>> http://www.europython.eu/about/accommodation/
>>     
>
> Has anyone made a custom public Google map with the venue and some of the
> more popular hotels marked on it?
>
> (The answer appears to be "no, not for EuroPython 2009", but I hope my
> question will inspire somebody to do it.  If not, I'll probably do it
> this weekend.)
>
> Marius Gedminas
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>   

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From steve at holdenweb.com  Thu Jun 25 20:34:35 2009
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 14:34:35 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn Hotel on Booking Form
In-Reply-To: <4A43BEEC.6090107@tartley.com>
References: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>	<4A43AC48.8010403@clocksoft.com>	<19645447.1245953451669.JavaMail.root@n17>
	<4A43BEEC.6090107@tartley.com>
Message-ID: <4A43C33B.6000902@holdenweb.com>

I'm not sure whether to trust a map that gives the same address for two
different hotels, one apparently about half a mile North of the other ...

regards
 Steve

Jonathan Hartley wrote:
> There's one here:
> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=104670010414967360724.0004394ea19c66425808f&om=1&source=embed&ll=52.477057,-1.906376&spn=0.01767,0.036693&z=15
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Marius Gedminas wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 05:56:40PM +0100, Quentin Wright wrote:
>>  
>>> Laurence Rowe ? Jarn wrote:
>>>    
>>>> I've signed up for a room at the Premier Inn on the booking form.
>>>> Which hotel does this refer to? (I'll be going directly to the hotel
>>>> on Monday evening).
>>>>       
>>> It's the Canalside Premier Inn, see
>>> http://www.europython.eu/about/accommodation/
>>>     
>>
>> Has anyone made a custom public Google map with the venue and some of the
>> more popular hotels marked on it?
>>
>> (The answer appears to be "no, not for EuroPython 2009", but I hope my
>> question will inspire somebody to do it.  If not, I'll probably do it
>> this weekend.)
>>
>> Marius Gedminas
>>  
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>   
> 


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From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Thu Jun 25 20:40:57 2009
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:40:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sunday Tutorials venues
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906251027p3233f65cj3bc29ea3022faccb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20e5c9660906251001s6964f440n143339516d453313@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906251027p3233f65cj3bc29ea3022faccb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A43C4B9.3010101@simplistix.co.uk>

John Pinner wrote:
> The Ratcliff Room can take about 40 people, you have 22 checked into the 
> Kamaelia tutorial (which I guess means about 30 will show up).

Where can we check how many people are signed up for our tutorials?

Chris

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            - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

From Ronny.Pfannschmidt at gmx.de  Thu Jun 25 20:44:00 2009
From: Ronny.Pfannschmidt at gmx.de (Ronny Pfannschmidt)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:44:00 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Searching a Sleeping place betwen 27.06 and 04.07
Message-ID: <1245955440.11085.3.camel@localhost>

Hi,

due some mishappenings im still without someone to share rooms or
another cheap sleeping place.

So 'd like to know if anyone is aware of a place where i could stay or
someone with place for sharing rooms between 27.06 and 04.07

regards
Ronny Pfannschmidt


From tartley at tartley.com  Thu Jun 25 20:51:00 2009
From: tartley at tartley.com (jonathan hartley)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:51:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Sunday Tutorials venues
In-Reply-To: <9788212.1245955496128.JavaMail.root@n17>
References: <20e5c9660906251001s6964f440n143339516d453313@mail.gmail.com>	<ff8a32f0906251027p3233f65cj3bc29ea3022faccb@mail.gmail.com>
	<9788212.1245955496128.JavaMail.root@n17>
Message-ID: <4A43C714.3040201@tartley.com>

Here ya go.

http://www.europython.eu/tutorials/count/


Chris Withers wrote:
> John Pinner wrote:
>> The Ratcliff Room can take about 40 people, you have 22 checked into 
>> the Kamaelia tutorial (which I guess means about 30 will show up).
>
> Where can we check how many people are signed up for our tutorials?
>
> Chris
>

-- 
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tartley at tartley.com   +44 7737 062 225   twitter/skype: tartley



From tartley at tartley.com  Thu Jun 25 20:55:37 2009
From: tartley at tartley.com (jonathan hartley)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:55:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn Hotel on Booking Form
In-Reply-To: <26707490.1245954939615.JavaMail.root@n17>
References: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>	<4A43AC48.8010403@clocksoft.com>	<19645447.1245953451669.JavaMail.root@n17>
	<4A43BEEC.6090107@tartley.com>
	<26707490.1245954939615.JavaMail.root@n17>
Message-ID: <4A43C829.3000007@tartley.com>

Well spotted Steve, thanks for the heads-up.

Alex, are you the only one with privs to edit that map?

The map's address for the Etap is correct. It is the Copthorne that is 
erroneous:

*Copthorne Hotel Birmingham
* Paradise Circus
Birmingham
United Kingdom B3 3HJ

T: +44 (0)121 200 2727




Steve Holden wrote:
> I'm not sure whether to trust a map that gives the same address for two
> different hotels, one apparently about half a mile North of the other ...
>
> regards
>  Steve
>
> Jonathan Hartley wrote:
>   
>> There's one here:
>> http://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=104670010414967360724.0004394ea19c66425808f&om=1&source=embed&ll=52.477057,-1.906376&spn=0.01767,0.036693&z=15
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Marius Gedminas wrote:
>>     
>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 05:56:40PM +0100, Quentin Wright wrote:
>>>  
>>>       
>>>> Laurence Rowe ? Jarn wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>         
>>>>> I've signed up for a room at the Premier Inn on the booking form.
>>>>> Which hotel does this refer to? (I'll be going directly to the hotel
>>>>> on Monday evening).
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> It's the Canalside Premier Inn, see
>>>> http://www.europython.eu/about/accommodation/
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Has anyone made a custom public Google map with the venue and some of the
>>> more popular hotels marked on it?
>>>
>>> (The answer appears to be "no, not for EuroPython 2009", but I hope my
>>> question will inspire somebody to do it.  If not, I'll probably do it
>>> this weekend.)
>>>
>>> Marius Gedminas
>>>  
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> EuroPython mailing list
>>> EuroPython at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>>   
>>>       
>
>
>   

-- 
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tartley at tartley.com   +44 7737 062 225   twitter/skype: tartley



From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 21:04:20 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:04:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn Hotel on Booking Form
In-Reply-To: <20090625175450.GA4830@platonas>
References: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A43AC48.8010403@clocksoft.com> <20090625175450.GA4830@platonas>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906251204k20a65909k58cb8238becea586@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!

2009/6/25 Marius Gedminas <marius at gedmin.as>

> On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 05:56:40PM +0100, Quentin Wright wrote:
> > Laurence Rowe ? Jarn wrote:
> > > I've signed up for a room at the Premier Inn on the booking form.
> > > Which hotel does this refer to? (I'll be going directly to the hotel
> > > on Monday evening).
> >
> > It's the Canalside Premier Inn, see
> > http://www.europython.eu/about/accommodation/
>
> Has anyone made a custom public Google map with the venue and some of the
> more popular hotels marked on it?


http://www.europython.eu/about/travel/

John
--


>
> (The answer appears to be "no, not for EuroPython 2009", but I hope my
> question will inspire somebody to do it.  If not, I'll probably do it
> this weekend.)
>
> Marius Gedminas
> --
> "Learning Perl" is actually a very well-written book for beginning
> programmers.  The only thing wrong with it is it's about Perl...
>                -- Paul Rubin
>
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From alex at moreati.org.uk  Thu Jun 25 21:08:24 2009
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:08:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn Hotel on Booking Form
In-Reply-To: <4A43C829.3000007@tartley.com>
References: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A43AC48.8010403@clocksoft.com>
	<19645447.1245953451669.JavaMail.root@n17>
	<4A43BEEC.6090107@tartley.com>
	<26707490.1245954939615.JavaMail.root@n17>
	<4A43C829.3000007@tartley.com>
Message-ID: <425e93af0906251208x17efe7fbj3720811428a1b34a@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/25 jonathan hartley <tartley at tartley.com>

> Well spotted Steve, thanks for the heads-up.
>
> Alex, are you the only one with privs to edit that map?
>

Fixed, and all the telephone numbers are now in international format. Sorry
for the confusion.

John also has edit permissions, I've now invited Laura, Zeth and yourself
also.

Anybody else, please let me know if you'd like an invite.

Alex
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From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Thu Jun 25 21:10:05 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 19:10:05 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Searching a Sleeping place betwen 27.06 and 04.07
In-Reply-To: <1245955440.11085.3.camel@localhost>
References: <1245955440.11085.3.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <ced5f0f60906251210i7ecac393me02b560eb8a04267@mail.gmail.com>

ronny, take a look at RoomSharing on wiki, there's one guy with space,
until 2nd.

On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Ronny
Pfannschmidt<Ronny.Pfannschmidt at gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> due some mishappenings im still without someone to share rooms or
> another cheap sleeping place.
>
> So 'd like to know if anyone is aware of a place where i could stay or
> someone with place for sharing rooms between 27.06 and 04.07
>
> regards
> Ronny Pfannschmidt
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 21:12:30 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:12:30 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Searching a Sleeping place betwen 27.06 and 04.07
In-Reply-To: <1245955440.11085.3.camel@localhost>
References: <1245955440.11085.3.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906251212k4258f536pd0b4e44ee6c9e7f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/25 Ronny Pfannschmidt <Ronny.Pfannschmidt at gmx.de>

> Hi,
>
> due some mishappenings im still without someone to share rooms or
> another cheap sleeping place.
>
> So 'd like to know if anyone is aware of a place where i could stay or
> someone with place for sharing rooms between 27.06 and 04.07


Have you tried using the wiki?  http://wiki.europython.eu/RoomSharing/

Failing that try the Backpackers at http://birminghamcentralbackpackers.com/

John
--


>
> regards
> Ronny Pfannschmidt
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From Ronny.Pfannschmidt at gmx.de  Thu Jun 25 21:22:26 2009
From: Ronny.Pfannschmidt at gmx.de (Ronny Pfannschmidt)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:22:26 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Searching a Sleeping place betwen 27.06 and 04.07
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906251212k4258f536pd0b4e44ee6c9e7f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1245955440.11085.3.camel@localhost>
	<ff8a32f0906251212k4258f536pd0b4e44ee6c9e7f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1245957746.11085.7.camel@localhost>

On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 20:12 +0100, John Pinner wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2009/6/25 Ronny Pfannschmidt <Ronny.Pfannschmidt at gmx.de>
>         Hi,
>         
>         due some mishappenings im still without someone to share rooms
>         or
>         another cheap sleeping place.
>         
>         So 'd like to know if anyone is aware of a place where i could
>         stay or
>         someone with place for sharing rooms between 27.06 and 04.07
> 
> Have you tried using the wiki?  http://wiki.europython.eu/RoomSharing/

I did send the last guy a mail a cuple of days ago, 
didn't get an answer.

> 
> Failing that try the Backpackers at 
> http://birminghamcentralbackpackers.com/

its currently down :( bandwidth limit exceeded

> 
> John
> --
> 
Regards
Ronny




From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 21:26:57 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:26:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Searching a Sleeping place betwen 27.06 and 04.07
In-Reply-To: <1245957746.11085.7.camel@localhost>
References: <1245955440.11085.3.camel@localhost>
	<ff8a32f0906251212k4258f536pd0b4e44ee6c9e7f@mail.gmail.com>
	<1245957746.11085.7.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906251226s404ad540rc61a001d119987c2@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

2009/6/25 Ronny Pfannschmidt <Ronny.Pfannschmidt at gmx.de>

> On Thu, 2009-06-25 at 20:12 +0100, John Pinner wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > 2009/6/25 Ronny Pfannschmidt <Ronny.Pfannschmidt at gmx.de>
> >         Hi,
> >
> >         due some mishappenings im still without someone to share rooms
> >         or
> >         another cheap sleeping place.
> >
> >         So 'd like to know if anyone is aware of a place where i could
> >         stay or
> >         someone with place for sharing rooms between 27.06 and 04.07
> >
> > Have you tried using the wiki?  http://wiki.europython.eu/RoomSharing/
>
> I did send the last guy a mail a cuple of days ago,
> didn't get an answer.
>
> >
> > Failing that try the Backpackers at
> > http://birminghamcentralbackpackers.com/
>
> its currently down :( bandwidth limit exceeded


You should be able to get in when you arrive. I suggest you come to EP, we
ask for a room share in an announcement, if you don't get one (I'm sure you
will) telephone the Backpackers.

John
--


>
>
> >
> > John
> > --
> >
> Regards
> Ronny
>
>
>
>
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From dalke at dalkescientific.com  Thu Jun 25 21:43:07 2009
From: dalke at dalkescientific.com (Andrew Dalke)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 13:43:07 -0600
Subject: [EuroPython] Tango on Tuesday In Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <2C69739D-29BE-4BED-87AD-362977C47347@hasecke.com>
References: <2C69739D-29BE-4BED-87AD-362977C47347@hasecke.com>
Message-ID: <35A8D386-ABB3-4C0F-A258-D56FE8B1F350@dalkescientific.com>

On Jun 25, 2009, at 1:01 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:
> I found an intermediate class on Tuesday at the University.
>
> http://www.tangobirmingham.co.uk/
>
>  During the week there are no milongas AFAIK.

No milongas? Not even a practica? But I have my dance shoes with me  
just in case!

Interesting. I do arrive on Sunday and there is practica then. I'll  
go for that one, and perhaps also that class.

Any salsa going on as well?

				Andrew
				dalke at dalkescientific.com



From alex at moreati.org.uk  Thu Jun 25 21:51:42 2009
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:51:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn Hotel on Booking Form
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906251206i45de35c7wa96bd134c5c94e2e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A43AC48.8010403@clocksoft.com> <20090625175450.GA4830@platonas>
	<ff8a32f0906251206i45de35c7wa96bd134c5c94e2e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <425e93af0906251251k76eb2df8l2e092a9d63166754@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/25 John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com>

> Alex,
>
> Will you update your map at http://www.europython.eu/about/travel/
>
> to include the CBSO Centre and distinguish between Canalside and Brindley
> Place Premier Inns?
>

Done, there's also another Travelodge on Charlotte Street.


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From alex at moreati.org.uk  Thu Jun 25 21:57:58 2009
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 20:57:58 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <3e4e51a80906250810x6fe9ccbao46b1ec5161b82c69@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
	<8d37bc060906250224m47480a57laf0022ed7f7cf424@mail.gmail.com>
	<1245922982.14663.139.camel@balin> <1245931285.5456.6.camel@localhost>
	<4A436F7E.2080002@cc.in2p3.fr> <1245938888.5456.50.camel@localhost>
	<8b93c05a0906250755t47b9c725t9ae0cbc821458bfd@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4e51a80906250810x6fe9ccbao46b1ec5161b82c69@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <425e93af0906251257h56c2c094x41e334c16365f969@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/25 Ciar?n Mooney <general.mooney at googlemail.com>

> > Otherwise, anyone knows a _good_ fish and chips out there ?
>
> Not in central Birmingham, have to go to the suburbs usually


There is a quite good fish and chip take away at the top of Corporation
Street:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.483124&mlon=-1.893478&zoom=18&layers=B000FTF

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From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 22:11:49 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:11:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] CSBO Centre Added to the wiki (For sunday
	tutorials)
In-Reply-To: <200906252109.06412.sparks.m@gmail.com>
References: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090625175450.GA4830@platonas>
	<ff8a32f0906251204k20a65909k58cb8238becea586@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906252109.06412.sparks.m@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906251311s526dffb9nbcc8296e65b216b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/25 Michael Sparks <sparks.m at gmail.com>

> On Thursday 25 June 2009 20:04:20 John Pinner wrote:
> > Has anyone made a custom public Google map with the venue and some of the
> > more popular hotels marked on it?
>
> I've added a page for the CSBO Centre here:
> http://wiki.europython.eu/CSBO%20centre#preview


Thanks.

>
> I've also created a public custom google map with routes to it from main
> things.


Like I said earlier, we have an 'official' map at
http://europython.eu/about/travel/ which Alex maintains.

John
--


>
>
> Whilst someone who knows brum well will probably look at the route from the
> conservatoire to the CSBO, speaking as someone who doesn't, having walked
> that route a couple of times, I personally found it the simplest :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael.
> --
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> http://twitter.com/kamaelian
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From cs at comlounge.net  Thu Jun 25 22:12:05 2009
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 22:12:05 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906251055x80138d6w4749e021027be3dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net>
	<ff8a32f0906251055x80138d6w4749e021027be3dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A43DA15.5060607@comlounge.net>

John Pinner wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net <mailto:cs at comlounge.net>>
> 
>     Hi!
> 
>     I am arriving on saturday at 1700 at Birmingham Airport and I am
>     wondering if there is some meetup planned for early arrivers.
> 
> 
> I'm sorry, we've been a bit too busy for that!
> 
> We may see if the Zagora has room for us
> http://europython.eu/about/eatingout/ and see maps.google.co.uk
> <http://maps.google.co.uk>

Well, it might just be good to know where eventually meet some
pythonistas ;-) Will there be people doing preps at the venue? I might
even help :-)

-- Christian





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From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jun 25 22:14:39 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 21:14:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
In-Reply-To: <4A43DA15.5060607@comlounge.net>
References: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net>
	<ff8a32f0906251055x80138d6w4749e021027be3dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A43DA15.5060607@comlounge.net>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906251314q2167edffy52a9292ca64360cf@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>

> John Pinner wrote:
> > Hello!
> >
> > 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net <mailto:cs at comlounge.net>>
> >
> >     Hi!
> >
> >     I am arriving on saturday at 1700 at Birmingham Airport and I am
> >     wondering if there is some meetup planned for early arrivers.
> >
> >
> > I'm sorry, we've been a bit too busy for that!
> >
> > We may see if the Zagora has room for us
> > http://europython.eu/about/eatingout/ and see maps.google.co.uk
> > <http://maps.google.co.uk>
>
> Well, it might just be good to know where eventually meet some
> pythonistas ;-) Will there be people doing preps at the venue?


Some people may be doing work on the network, but the main stuff like bag
stuffing will be on Monday afternoon.

I might
> even help :-)
>

Thanks!

John
--


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From orestis at orestis.gr  Fri Jun 26 00:10:46 2009
From: orestis at orestis.gr (Orestis Markou)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:10:46 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Help me finalise my PyObjC talk!
In-Reply-To: <ced5f0f60906251058t7ea1f2bcqc103183ae72c155c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A8ADCA31-3AAE-4798-BF7C-6E9E2BDBACDC@orestis.gr>
	<ced5f0f60906250940g5bfdf5deyef90fed3186b5cd9@mail.gmail.com>
	<ced5f0f60906250950nc796161u8f7d2823858e7ce8@mail.gmail.com>
	<63F8293C-DECC-4601-B1E9-81C74FFAAF73@orestis.gr>
	<ced5f0f60906251041g7db50d9bi257f274aa8bfbb47@mail.gmail.com>
	<ced5f0f60906251058t7ea1f2bcqc103183ae72c155c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F3E5E5DE-1A8E-463E-BB22-821F04BC8706@orestis.gr>

I'm afraid I don't know the first thing about WebKit so I probably  
won't be of much help. I'd suggest sending a mail to pyobjc-dev, you  
are more likely to get answers there.



On 25 Jun 2009, at 20:58, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:

> sorry, orestis, hit send too early: how to set up event listeners as
> well.  i.e. how to add a python callback onto e.g. window.resize and
> onto W3C Element (actually Node) "click" listener.
>
> i have an example which is using python-hulahop which is python
> bindings to XUL / Gecko, here:
> http://lkcl.net/pyjamas/python-xpcom.tgz  the key file is hula.py
>
> intuitively using PyObjC + cocoa, i would expect things to be pretty
> identical to this:
>
>        listener = xpcom.server.WrapObject(ContentInvoker(self),
>                                             
> interfaces.nsIDOMEventListener)
>        self.window_root.addEventListener('click', listener, False)
>
> where ContentInvoker has a function handleEvent, which in the  
> example does this:
>
>    def handleEvent(self, event):
>        print event
>
> duh :)
>
> clue?


From jyrki.pulliainen at inoi.fi  Fri Jun 26 00:23:04 2009
From: jyrki.pulliainen at inoi.fi (Jyrki Pulliainen)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:23:04 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] C5 power cords with a British plug?
Message-ID: <20090625222304.GC23299@jyrki-laptop>

Hi,

I was wondering if anyone would know can you find affordable C5 power
cords with a British plug in Birmingham? I have a huge converter, but
I'm not too keen to use it :)

Oh, and the C5 looks like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plug_Kleeblattstecker_DIN_VDE_0625_Teil_1_Normblatt_C5.jpg

- Jyrki

-- 
Jyrki Pulliainen
Inoi oy
+358 40 570 2293
jyrki.pulliainen at inoi.fi

From orestis at orestis.gr  Fri Jun 26 01:03:12 2009
From: orestis at orestis.gr (Orestis Markou)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:03:12 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] C5 power cords with a British plug?
In-Reply-To: <20090625222304.GC23299@jyrki-laptop>
References: <20090625222304.GC23299@jyrki-laptop>
Message-ID: <921CDE05-1BE1-4D69-805C-87CA089F5703@orestis.gr>

eBay, but it's probably too late.

My solution is to carry a spare european one with me, buy a 50p plug  
from a hardware shop and transplant the plug. Easier than hunting  
around in Birmingham.

On 26 Jun 2009, at 01:23, Jyrki Pulliainen wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if anyone would know can you find affordable C5 power
> cords with a British plug in Birmingham? I have a huge converter, but
> I'm not too keen to use it :)
>
> Oh, and the C5 looks like:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plug_Kleeblattstecker_DIN_VDE_0625_Teil_1_Normblatt_C5.jpg
>
> - Jyrki
>
> -- 
> Jyrki Pulliainen
> Inoi oy
> +358 40 570 2293
> jyrki.pulliainen at inoi.fi
> _______________________________________________
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> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython


From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Fri Jun 26 01:03:54 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:03:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] C5 power cords with a British plug?
In-Reply-To: <20090625222304.GC23299@jyrki-laptop>
References: <20090625222304.GC23299@jyrki-laptop>
Message-ID: <3e4e51a80906251603w1c7db99dh526a7ad8052d9b48@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

This is what you want?

http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=29240

There is a Maplins shop just a short walk from the conference venue.
You may need to ring to check it is stock.

+44(0)121 6334141

Hope that works out,

Ciar?n

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 01:11:17 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 00:11:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] C5 power cords with a British plug?
In-Reply-To: <3e4e51a80906251603w1c7db99dh526a7ad8052d9b48@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20090625222304.GC23299@jyrki-laptop>
	<3e4e51a80906251603w1c7db99dh526a7ad8052d9b48@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906251611k1706fbe1s670bc1cbb2e7788c@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Ciar?n Mooney <general.mooney at googlemail.com>:
> Hi,
>
> This is what you want?
>
> http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=29240

6.99! I would try to find a Continental to Commonwealth adapter in
poundland or similar

From gabriele.fucci at s3srl.com  Fri Jun 26 02:40:32 2009
From: gabriele.fucci at s3srl.com (Gabriele Fucci)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:40:32 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Payment issue...
Message-ID: <46026d4b0906251740p1dfd3e02wa168cb7bd6285bea@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there...

I have been registered by my secretary at Europython09... tutorial and
conference, no spring!

She chooses the bank payment but I didn't yet pay...
I didn't receive anything by mail, how can I do?!

Is it possible to pay whit my credit card...?

I'm waiting for your answer!
Thank you!

Gabriele Fucci

From tommi at syneus.fi  Fri Jun 26 02:56:53 2009
From: tommi at syneus.fi (Tommi Penttinen)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:56:53 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Some company in London on Friday evening?
Message-ID: <16F89017-3F11-4225-902F-5BB84553D0DF@syneus.fi>

Hi,

I'm sorry for adding some extra noise but are there any EuroPython  
attendees willing to join the London nightlife tonight since we're  
arriving tonight 5 minutes to midnight to Stansted and would be  
willing to roam around the city. Company would be highly appreciated. :)

Greets,

Tommi Penttinen
+358 44 0278 452

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 03:46:17 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:46:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Some company in London on Friday evening?
In-Reply-To: <16F89017-3F11-4225-902F-5BB84553D0DF@syneus.fi>
References: <16F89017-3F11-4225-902F-5BB84553D0DF@syneus.fi>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906251846qc0b020cx2b9edf4d189a337@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Tommi Penttinen <tommi at syneus.fi>:
> Hi,
>
> I'm sorry for adding some extra noise but are there any EuroPython attendees
> willing to join the London nightlife tonight since we're arriving tonight 5
> minutes to midnight to Stansted and would be willing to roam around the
> city. Company would be highly appreciated. :)

I am assuming you know that Stansted is nowhere near London.

You can also take the 1am coach from Stansted to Birmingham, National
Express service FK777.

From christopher.swift at linux.com  Fri Jun 26 08:26:10 2009
From: christopher.swift at linux.com (Christopher Swift)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 07:26:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906251314q2167edffy52a9292ca64360cf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net>	<ff8a32f0906251055x80138d6w4749e021027be3dc@mail.gmail.com>	<4A43DA15.5060607@comlounge.net>
	<ff8a32f0906251314q2167edffy52a9292ca64360cf@mail.gmail.com>
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John Pinner wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>
> 
>> John Pinner wrote:
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net <mailto:cs at comlounge.net>>
>>>
>>>     Hi!
>>>
>>>     I am arriving on saturday at 1700 at Birmingham Airport and I am
>>>     wondering if there is some meetup planned for early arrivers.
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sorry, we've been a bit too busy for that!
>>>
>>> We may see if the Zagora has room for us
>>> http://europython.eu/about/eatingout/ and see maps.google.co.uk
>>> <http://maps.google.co.uk>
>> Well, it might just be good to know where eventually meet some
>> pythonistas ;-) Will there be people doing preps at the venue?

I'll be arriving in Birmingham at about 19:30, perhaps a bit too late to
socialise but if anyone has anything planned, do let me know! I'll have
to hook up first with my room-mate & see what he is up to so it perhaps
won't be 100% chance of me being able to attend anything in case
something comes up.

> Some people may be doing work on the network, but the main stuff like bag
> stuffing will be on Monday afternoon.

Can someone please explain to me what "bag stuffing" is?

> I might
>> even help :-)
>>

I'd like to help too given the chance!
- --
Christopher Swift
http://launchpad.net/~chris

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From brian.brazil at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 09:35:11 2009
From: brian.brazil at gmail.com (Brian Brazil)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:35:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
In-Reply-To: <4A446A02.2070304@linux.com>
References: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net>
	<ff8a32f0906251055x80138d6w4749e021027be3dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A43DA15.5060607@comlounge.net>
	<ff8a32f0906251314q2167edffy52a9292ca64360cf@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A446A02.2070304@linux.com>
Message-ID: <4e0973450906260035i575b4823q75de7332f9fb2da0@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Christopher
Swift<christopher.swift at linux.com> wrote:
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> John Pinner wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>
>>
>>> John Pinner wrote:
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net <mailto:cs at comlounge.net>>
>>>>
>>>> ? ? Hi!
>>>>
>>>> ? ? I am arriving on saturday at 1700 at Birmingham Airport and I am
>>>> ? ? wondering if there is some meetup planned for early arrivers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, we've been a bit too busy for that!
>>>>
>>>> We may see if the Zagora has room for us
>>>> http://europython.eu/about/eatingout/ and see maps.google.co.uk
>>>> <http://maps.google.co.uk>
>>> Well, it might just be good to know where eventually meet some
>>> pythonistas ;-) Will there be people doing preps at the venue?
>
> I'll be arriving in Birmingham at about 19:30, perhaps a bit too late to
> socialise but if anyone has anything planned, do let me know! I'll have
> to hook up first with my room-mate & see what he is up to so it perhaps
> won't be 100% chance of me being able to attend anything in case
> something comes up.

I'm arriving in the early afternoon, so I'm interested in any happenings.

>> Some people may be doing work on the network, but the main stuff like bag
>> stuffing will be on Monday afternoon.
>
> Can someone please explain to me what "bag stuffing" is?

When we register on Tuesday we'll get a bag with leaflets and swag.
Bag stuffing is filling those.

Brian

>> I might
>>> even help :-)
>>>
>
> I'd like to help too given the chance!
> - --
> Christopher Swift
> http://launchpad.net/~chris
>
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From Kevin.Stebbing at betfair.com  Fri Jun 26 09:56:11 2009
From: Kevin.Stebbing at betfair.com (Kevin Stebbing)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:56:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
In-Reply-To: <4e0973450906260035i575b4823q75de7332f9fb2da0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net><ff8a32f0906251055x80138d6w4749e021027be3dc@mail.gmail.com><4A43DA15.5060607@comlounge.net><ff8a32f0906251314q2167edffy52a9292ca64360cf@mail.gmail.com><4A446A02.2070304@linux.com>
	<4e0973450906260035i575b4823q75de7332f9fb2da0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E39E50172D7A6546BCE3E981C985C98740305F8D@UKMAIL.sportex.com>

I'll be arriving about tea time on Saturday.  I'd be happy to meet up for a quiet drink and/or a light meal.  Can someone recommend a suitable place?

Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: europython-bounces+kevin.stebbing=betfair.com at python.org [mailto:europython-bounces+kevin.stebbing=betfair.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Brian Brazil
Sent: 26 June 2009 08:35
To: Christopher Swift
Cc: EuroPython Mailing List
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Christopher
Swift<christopher.swift at linux.com> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> John Pinner wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>
>>
>>> John Pinner wrote:
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net <mailto:cs at comlounge.net>>
>>>>
>>>> ? ? Hi!
>>>>
>>>> ? ? I am arriving on saturday at 1700 at Birmingham Airport and I am
>>>> ? ? wondering if there is some meetup planned for early arrivers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, we've been a bit too busy for that!
>>>>
>>>> We may see if the Zagora has room for us
>>>> http://europython.eu/about/eatingout/ and see maps.google.co.uk
>>>> <http://maps.google.co.uk>
>>> Well, it might just be good to know where eventually meet some
>>> pythonistas ;-) Will there be people doing preps at the venue?
>
> I'll be arriving in Birmingham at about 19:30, perhaps a bit too late to
> socialise but if anyone has anything planned, do let me know! I'll have
> to hook up first with my room-mate & see what he is up to so it perhaps
> won't be 100% chance of me being able to attend anything in case
> something comes up.

I'm arriving in the early afternoon, so I'm interested in any happenings.

>> Some people may be doing work on the network, but the main stuff like bag
>> stuffing will be on Monday afternoon.
>
> Can someone please explain to me what "bag stuffing" is?

When we register on Tuesday we'll get a bag with leaflets and swag.
Bag stuffing is filling those.

Brian

>> I might
>>> even help :-)
>>>
>
> I'd like to help too given the chance!
> - --
> Christopher Swift
> http://launchpad.net/~chris
>
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From fiona at myrmidonprocess.com  Fri Jun 26 10:33:52 2009
From: fiona at myrmidonprocess.com (Fiona Burrows)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:33:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
In-Reply-To: <4e0973450906260035i575b4823q75de7332f9fb2da0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net>	<ff8a32f0906251055x80138d6w4749e021027be3dc@mail.gmail.com>	<4A43DA15.5060607@comlounge.net>	<ff8a32f0906251314q2167edffy52a9292ca64360cf@mail.gmail.com>	<4A446A02.2070304@linux.com>
	<4e0973450906260035i575b4823q75de7332f9fb2da0@mail.gmail.com>
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Brian Brazil wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Christopher
> Swift<christopher.swift at linux.com> wrote:
>   
>> John Pinner wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>
>>>
>>>       
>>>> John Pinner wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net <mailto:cs at comlounge.net>>
>>>>>
>>>>>     Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>>     I am arriving on saturday at 1700 at Birmingham Airport and I am
>>>>>     wondering if there is some meetup planned for early arrivers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry, we've been a bit too busy for that!
>>>>>
>>>>> We may see if the Zagora has room for us
>>>>> http://europython.eu/about/eatingout/ and see maps.google.co.uk
>>>>> <http://maps.google.co.uk>
>>>>>           
>>>> Well, it might just be good to know where eventually meet some
>>>> pythonistas ;-) Will there be people doing preps at the venue?
>>>>         
>> I'll be arriving in Birmingham at about 19:30, perhaps a bit too late to
>> socialise but if anyone has anything planned, do let me know! I'll have
>> to hook up first with my room-mate & see what he is up to so it perhaps
>> won't be 100% chance of me being able to attend anything in case
>> something comes up.
>>     
>
> I'm arriving in the early afternoon, so I'm interested in any happenings.
>
>   

+1.
I'm getting in to Birmingham at about 5-6 ish.

I've never visited the place before.. =/

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From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Fri Jun 26 10:39:32 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:39:32 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
In-Reply-To: <4A4487F0.5070306@myrmidonprocess.com>
References: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net>
	<ff8a32f0906251055x80138d6w4749e021027be3dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A43DA15.5060607@comlounge.net>
	<ff8a32f0906251314q2167edffy52a9292ca64360cf@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

I suggest you guys start a wiki page, so we can point others to it for
information.

Ciar?n

From popravich at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 11:03:16 2009
From: popravich at gmail.com (Alexey Popravka)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:03:16 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
In-Reply-To: <4A4487F0.5070306@myrmidonprocess.com>
References: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net>	<ff8a32f0906251055x80138d6w4749e021027be3dc@mail.gmail.com>	<4A43DA15.5060607@comlounge.net>	<ff8a32f0906251314q2167edffy52a9292ca64360cf@mail.gmail.com>	<4A446A02.2070304@linux.com>	<4e0973450906260035i575b4823q75de7332f9fb2da0@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi all,
> Brian Brazil wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:26 AM, Christopher
>> Swift<christopher.swift at linux.com> wrote:
>>   
>>> John Pinner wrote:
>>>     
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>> John Pinner wrote:
>>>>>         
>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net <mailto:cs at comlounge.net>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I am arriving on saturday at 1700 at Birmingham Airport and I am
>>>>>>     wondering if there is some meetup planned for early arrivers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm sorry, we've been a bit too busy for that!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We may see if the Zagora has room for us
>>>>>> http://europython.eu/about/eatingout/ and see maps.google.co.uk
>>>>>> <http://maps.google.co.uk>
>>>>>>           
>>>>> Well, it might just be good to know where eventually meet some
>>>>> pythonistas ;-) Will there be people doing preps at the venue?
>>>>>         
>>> I'll be arriving in Birmingham at about 19:30, perhaps a bit too late to
>>> socialise but if anyone has anything planned, do let me know! I'll have
>>> to hook up first with my room-mate & see what he is up to so it perhaps
>>> won't be 100% chance of me being able to attend anything in case
>>> something comes up.
>>>     
>>
>> I'm arriving in the early afternoon, so I'm interested in any happenings.
>>
>>   
>
> +1.
> I'm getting in to Birmingham at about 5-6 ish.
>
> I've never visited the place before.. =/
>
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I'm arriving to Birmingham by midnight today. would gladly join you guys 
on Saturday.

Alexey Popravka

From brian.brazil at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 11:12:11 2009
From: brian.brazil at gmail.com (Brian Brazil)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:12:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Ciar?n
Mooney<general.mooney at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I suggest you guys start a wiki page, so we can point others to it for
> information.

I've created http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials

7pm seems like a goodish time, we need a place though.

Brian

From petra.chong at glcuk.com  Fri Jun 26 11:15:09 2009
From: petra.chong at glcuk.com (Petra Chong)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:15:09 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Changing pre-booked tutorials
Message-ID: <A5590B068BE7DA4E91C7ECBF2072157B0EC1F2891E@ldnexc01.GLC.com>

I do apologise if this is somewhere on the wiki, I can't seem to find this there.

I'd like to change one of my tutorial pre-registrations. How might I do this?

Thank you,

Petra Chong

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From sorin.sbarnea at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 11:34:58 2009
From: sorin.sbarnea at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Sorin_Sb=C3=A2rnea?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:34:58 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Changing pre-booked tutorials
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also I found out that I have no cofirmation of the tutorial I selected.

/sorin

Pe Jun 26, 2009, la 12:15, Petra Chong <petra.chong at glcuk.com> a scris:

> I do apologise if this is somewhere on the wiki, I can't seem to  
> find this there.
>
> I'd like to change one of my tutorial pre-registrations. How might I  
> do this?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Petra Chong
>
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From gurgeh73 at free.fr  Fri Jun 26 11:35:06 2009
From: gurgeh73 at free.fr (richard barran)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:35:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Salsa (was: Tango on Tuesday In Birmingham)
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On 25 Jun 2009, at 20:43, Andrew Dalke wrote:

> On Jun 25, 2009, at 1:01 AM, Jan Ulrich Hasecke wrote:
>> I found an intermediate class on Tuesday at the University.
>>
>> http://www.tangobirmingham.co.uk/
>>
>>  During the week there are no milongas AFAIK.
>
> No milongas? Not even a practica? But I have my dance shoes with me  
> just in case!
>
> Interesting. I do arrive on Sunday and there is practica then. I'll  
> go for that one, and perhaps also that class.
>
> Any salsa going on as well?

I'd love to try out a salsa club; never been to a Birmingham club so  
cannot vouch for any of them, but a few seconds googling found this:

http://www.latinmotion.co.uk/

with club nights (class followed by club) in the city centre on  
Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Anyone interested?


From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Fri Jun 26 12:08:27 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:08:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
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> I've created http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials
>
> 7pm seems like a goodish time, we need a place though.
>
> Brian

Broad Street would be a no-no but if you care to walk just a little
bit into town you could go to The Wellington for a true taste of
British Ale.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.4806&mlon=-1.90069&zoom=17&layers=B000FTF

It is a CAMRA (http://www.camra.org.uk/) pub, serving a range of very
nice (and possibly very strong) real ales along with more mainstream
alcohol.

They do not serve food, however you are welcome to bring any food you
wish to eat and they will provide plates and cutlery.

I'd reccomend it, there will be other people with beards.... :)

Ciar?n

From tartley at tartley.com  Fri Jun 26 12:13:18 2009
From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:13:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Changing pre-booked tutorials
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Petra, I see you in the database. Email me your change, I'll update the 
tutorial bookings database.

Sorin, I don't see any tutorials reserved for you, although you are 
listed has having paid for tutorials. Email me which ones you would like 
to attend.


Thanks!

    Jonathan


Sorin Sb?rnea wrote:
> also I found out that I have no cofirmation of the tutorial I selected.
>
> /sorin
>
> Pe Jun 26, 2009, la 12:15, Petra Chong <petra.chong at glcuk.com 
> <mailto:petra.chong at glcuk.com>> a scris:
>
>> I do apologise if this is somewhere on the wiki, I can't seem to find 
>> this there.
>>  
>> I'd like to change one of my tutorial pre-registrations. How might I 
>> do this?
>>  
>> Thank you,
>>  
>> Petra Chong
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From reinout at vanrees.org  Fri Jun 26 12:21:09 2009
From: reinout at vanrees.org (Reinout van Rees)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:21:09 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] power sockets: enough available?
Message-ID: <2b52d5bf0906260321g64d412cer860663ba1ed80215@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Are there enough power sockets all over the place at the conference?
I've sometimes brought my own extension cord, but that's obviously
quite bulky.

As I'll be using my laptop all the time (blog...), I'll need a socket
from time to time :-)


Reinout

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From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Fri Jun 26 12:24:35 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 11:24:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] power sockets: enough available?
In-Reply-To: <2b52d5bf0906260321g64d412cer860663ba1ed80215@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b52d5bf0906260321g64d412cer860663ba1ed80215@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e4e51a80906260324o2cf22bf7wd8e95f8f2443ebfc@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

The tech team will be endeavouring to provide as many plugs as we can,
a vague answer but all I can say for certain. We will try and have
some european plug sockets too, but I imagine they will be in short
supply.

I suggest bringing a EU-->UK adapter, as then you'll be more likely to
find somewhere to fill your batteries with more juice.

Ciar?n

From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 13:08:46 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:08:46 -0600
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
In-Reply-To: <4A42489E.7030907@tartley.com>
References: <200906241143.n5OBhnH5020974@theraft.openend.se>
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Tried uploading, got the page back with a little note on it that said:
TextCha: Wrong answer! Go back and try again...

But my slide file doesn't appear in the list.

-- Bruce Eckel



On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Jonathan Hartley <tartley at tartley.com>wrote:

> Upload them here:
> http://wiki.europython.eu/TalkMaterials
>
> And please let Krzysztof know (he's on this email.)
>
>   Jonathan
>
>
>
> Mikeal Rogers wrote:
>
>> So, at the end of all this, where do I put my slides?
>>
>> My slides for one of my talks include two demo videos so preferably *not*
>> email.
>>
>> -Mikeal
>>
>>
>> On Jun 24, 2009, at June 24, 20097:06 AM, Krzysztof Wilczynski wrote:
>>
>>  Hello,
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> British("we'd like to include your material, please") ==
>>>>> Continental("Give us your material now")
>>>>>
>>>>  ~-== American ("Where's the damned material?") ;-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> BORG("We will add your slides and presentation to our own. Your
>>> culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.")
>>>
>>> KW
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> EuroPython mailing list
>>> EuroPython at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>>
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From kitblake at infrae.com  Fri Jun 26 13:20:17 2009
From: kitblake at infrae.com (Kit BLAKE)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:20:17 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] slides
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This one got me too, and I happened to have my browser in French was  
even more mystifying. Apparently a TextCha is a sort of Captcha and -  
as far as ui design goes - should probably be down by the submit  
button. Answer the question by the field and submit.

Kit

On 26 Jun 2009, at 13:08, Bruce Eckel wrote:

> Tried uploading, got the page back with a little note on it that said:
> TextCha: Wrong answer! Go back and try again...
>
> But my slide file doesn't appear in the list.
>
> -- Bruce Eckel
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Jonathan Hartley  
> <tartley at tartley.com> wrote:
> Upload them here:
>
> http://wiki.europython.eu/TalkMaterials
>
> And please let Krzysztof know (he's on this email.)
>
>   Jonathan
>
>
>
> Mikeal Rogers wrote:
> So, at the end of all this, where do I put my slides?
>
> My slides for one of my talks include two demo videos so preferably  
> *not* email.
>
> -Mikeal
>
>
> On Jun 24, 2009, at June 24, 20097:06 AM, Krzysztof Wilczynski wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> [...]
> British("we'd like to include your material, please") ==
> Continental("Give us your material now")
>  ~-== American ("Where's the damned material?") ;-)
>
> BORG("We will add your slides and presentation to our own. Your
> culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.")
>
> KW
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>
> -- 
> Jonathan Hartley      Made of meat.      http://tartley.com
> tartley at tartley.com   +44 7737 062 225   twitter/skype: tartley
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython


From kitblake at infrae.com  Fri Jun 26 13:42:40 2009
From: kitblake at infrae.com (Kit BLAKE)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:42:40 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn Hotel on Booking Form
In-Reply-To: <4A43AC48.8010403@clocksoft.com>
References: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <C55A1F83-18CE-4E1C-9C15-3CF1C00060D9@infrae.com>

On 25 Jun 2009, at 18:56, Quentin Wright wrote:
> It's the Canalside Premier Inn, see
> http://www.europython.eu/about/accommodation/

If, when we registered, we chose rooms in the registration form, are  
those rooms at the Canalside Premier Inn already assigned? I just  
called to check, but they don't have our names, and a couple of us are  
coming to the tutorials.

Apparently our office manager booked rooms for us via the Premier Inn  
site, at Brindley Place, and so I think we have a double booking. But  
before I cancel I'd like to confirm our rooms at Canalside.

Thanks,
Kit


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From cs at comlounge.net  Fri Jun 26 13:47:36 2009
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:47:36 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Birmingham Airport saturday meeting point?
Message-ID: <4A44B558.7090403@comlounge.net>

Hi!

As I have never been to Birmingham Airport before, what would be a good
meeting point?

I will try to meet ronny at departure and we will arrive at 1655 and
might wait for people arriving at 1735 so we can all take a train together.

(in any case, photos of me can be found here:
http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=mrtopf&w=all and my mobile is
+49 178 8128061)

-- Christian


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From marijnvriens at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 13:51:03 2009
From: marijnvriens at gmail.com (Marijn Vriens)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:51:03 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] power sockets: enough available?
In-Reply-To: <3e4e51a80906260324o2cf22bf7wd8e95f8f2443ebfc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b52d5bf0906260321g64d412cer860663ba1ed80215@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Ciar?n Mooney <
general.mooney at googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The tech team will be endeavouring to provide as many plugs as we can,
> a vague answer but all I can say for certain. We will try and have
> some european plug sockets too, but I imagine they will be in short
> supply.
>
> I suggest bringing a EU-->UK adapter, as then you'll be more likely to
> find somewhere to fill your batteries with more juice.


I'm bringing a extension cord with 6 european
(Schuko<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schuko>)
outlets and one euro->UK adaptor. So there will be some juice to spare for
us continentals. :)

Regards,
      Marijn.
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From tobixen at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 14:42:05 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:42:05 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Sharing rooms on Premier Inn
Message-ID: <ef2af3100906260542x12fceea9ufd9b3ab7c44b7b3c@mail.gmail.com>

Hm ... it seems like one really should contact the hotel and get the
beds arranged if one is to share rooms?  According to the email below
the rooms are with one bed unless one asks for two beds.


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Date: 2009/6/26
Subject: Re: Tobias Brox / EuroPython booking
To: Tobias Brox <tobixen at gmail.com>




Hi

Yes we can have two beds in room but this has to be arranged with
hotel directly before hand. I will organise this for you and yes
he will be able to access room.

Regards

Sharon



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From morten.brekkevold at uninett.no  Fri Jun 26 14:47:55 2009
From: morten.brekkevold at uninett.no (Morten Brekkevold)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:47:55 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Transportation, Dave Matthews Band in Wolverhampton
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On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:30:00 +0100 Zeth <theology at gmail.com> wrote:

>> What would be the best way to get from Birmingham to Wolverhampton and
>> back?
>
> In descending order of speed: Train from New Street, Metro from Snow
> Hill or Bus from the cathedral.

Lovely, thank you!

-- 
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From gregor.lingl at aon.at  Fri Jun 26 14:34:11 2009
From: gregor.lingl at aon.at (Gregor Lingl)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:34:11 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Birmingham Airport saturday meeting point?
In-Reply-To: <4A44B558.7090403@comlounge.net>
References: <4A44B558.7090403@comlounge.net>
Message-ID: <4A44C043.7020507@aon.at>



Christian Scholz schrieb:
> Hi!
>
> As I have never been to Birmingham Airport before, what would be a good
> meeting point?
>
> I will try to meet ronny at departure and we will arrive at 1655 and
> might wait for people arriving at 1735 so we can all take a train together.
>   
Hi Christian,

that's a good idea (for me). I'll be arriving at 17.35 from (Vienna via) 
Frankfurt and I also have never
been there before.

That's me:

http://picasaweb.google.com/gregor.lingl/ME#

Gregor



> (in any case, photos of me can be found here:
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=mrtopf&w=all and my mobile is
> +49 178 8128061)
>
> -- Christian
>
>
>   

From petra.chong at glcuk.com  Fri Jun 26 15:05:37 2009
From: petra.chong at glcuk.com (Petra Chong)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:05:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions
Message-ID: <A5590B068BE7DA4E91C7ECBF2072157B0EC1F28926@ldnexc01.GLC.com>

Hello,

A party of five from my company are attending Europython. We have been trying to track down which Premier Inn that we're booked at, somewhat unsuccessfully. I have called Brindley Place and Canalside and neither has my name. The nice lady at Canalside said that she was waiting to hear back from a Mr Pinner (? spelling ?) about a final list of names.

Could anyone shed some light on this please? Some of us are arriving tomorrow evening.

Many thanks,

Petra Chong

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From tobixen at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 15:09:44 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:09:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions
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It's the premier inn canal side.

2009/6/26 Petra Chong <petra.chong at glcuk.com>:
> Hello,
>
> A party of five from my company are attending Europython. We have been
> trying to track down which Premier Inn that we're booked at, somewhat
> unsuccessfully. I have called Brindley Place and Canalside and neither has
> my name. The nice lady at Canalside said that she was waiting to hear back
> from a Mr Pinner (? spelling ?) about a final list of names.
>
> Could anyone shed some light on this please? Some of us are arriving
> tomorrow evening.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Petra Chong
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From petra.chong at glcuk.com  Fri Jun 26 15:13:03 2009
From: petra.chong at glcuk.com (Petra Chong)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:13:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions
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Unfortunately both Brindley Place and Canalside say that I do not have a booking there! I just rang to check. Someone at the Europython main number called my colleague earlier saying that we were either at Brindley Place or Canalside depending on what day we booked.

Since this contradicts what the hotels say, we are not sure where to go or who to contact to get this information.

Thanks,

PC

-----Original Message-----
From: Tobias Brox [mailto:tobixen at gmail.com]
Sent: 26 June 2009 14:10
To: Petra Chong
Cc: europython at python.org
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions

It's the premier inn canal side.

2009/6/26 Petra Chong <petra.chong at glcuk.com>:
> Hello,
>
> A party of five from my company are attending Europython. We have been
> trying to track down which Premier Inn that we're booked at, somewhat
> unsuccessfully. I have called Brindley Place and Canalside and neither has
> my name. The nice lady at Canalside said that she was waiting to hear back
> from a Mr Pinner (? spelling ?) about a final list of names.
>
> Could anyone shed some light on this please? Some of us are arriving
> tomorrow evening.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Petra Chong
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From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 15:17:35 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:17:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions
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References: <ef2af3100906260609i1d5babeev5171ee73c7c6aebc@mail.gmail.com>
	<A5590B068BE7DA4E91C7ECBF2072157B0EC1F28927@ldnexc01.GLC.com>
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2009/6/26 Petra Chong <petra.chong at glcuk.com>:
> Since this contradicts what the hotels say, we are not sure where to go or who to contact to get this information.

You went to Tobias who was the right person.

From cs at comlounge.net  Fri Jun 26 15:18:58 2009
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:18:58 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Birmingham Airport saturday meeting point?
In-Reply-To: <4A44B558.7090403@comlounge.net>
References: <4A44B558.7090403@comlounge.net>
Message-ID: <4A44CAC2.1090201@comlounge.net>

Christian Scholz wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> As I have never been to Birmingham Airport before, what would be a good
> meeting point?
> 
> I will try to meet ronny at departure and we will arrive at 1655 and
> might wait for people arriving at 1735 so we can all take a train together.
>

I checked and people seem to be arriving at T1 and T2 which probably
means that it's best to meet at the train station which can be reached
by the air-link shuttle.

So let's simply say we meet close to the ticket office unless somebody
has knowledge about the train station and proposes a better place :-)

-- Christian


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From petra.chong at glcuk.com  Fri Jun 26 15:21:46 2009
From: petra.chong at glcuk.com (Petra Chong)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:21:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906260617t1dd89670rde34fe4ad84acf02@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A5590B068BE7DA4E91C7ECBF2072157B0EC1F28928@ldnexc01.GLC.com>

Thanks for that, however, Canalside does not know that our party exists, they told me this when I called. They do not have our names and say that we are possibly booked in to Hagley Road, but they aren't sure.

If Tobias / someone else can please confirm that the Canalside staff are wrong, then we'll be happy to take that as authoritative.

Many thanks,

PC



-----Original Message-----
From: Zeth [mailto:theology at gmail.com]
Sent: 26 June 2009 14:18
To: Petra Chong
Cc: Tobias Brox; europython at python.org
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions

2009/6/26 Petra Chong <petra.chong at glcuk.com>:
> Since this contradicts what the hotels say, we are not sure where to go or who to contact to get this information.

You went to Tobias who was the right person.

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From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 15:17:06 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:17:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions
In-Reply-To: <A5590B068BE7DA4E91C7ECBF2072157B0EC1F28926@ldnexc01.GLC.com>
References: <A5590B068BE7DA4E91C7ECBF2072157B0EC1F28926@ldnexc01.GLC.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906260617j135de007i321bb447c9ef7cd@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Petra Chong <petra.chong at glcuk.com>:
> Hello,
>
> A party of five from my company are attending Europython. We have been
> trying to track down which Premier Inn that we're booked at, somewhat
> unsuccessfully. I have called Brindley Place and Canalside and neither has
> my name. The nice lady at Canalside said that she was waiting to hear back
> from a Mr Pinner (? spelling ?) about a final list of names.
>
> Could anyone shed some light on this please? Some of us are arriving
> tomorrow evening.

Hello everyone, a couple of people are asking the same question so I
reply in a general way. If anyone asks this question again, hopefully
someone else (e.g. anyone reading this) can provide the answer. This
is because EuroPython is a community conference organised by
volunteers, by the delegates themselves, we all have day jobs so it
might take a little time for a reply.

As a community conference, everyone is expected to contribute in some
way, organising something, giving a talk, answering other people's
questions to the best of their ability, keeping up with the mailing
list etc.

Anyway, if you booked your hotel through our registration form, then
it is the Canalside hotel. To the hotel everyone is anonymous until
the last second. You are all just one of the EuroPython bookings.
Ringing them directly may indeed elicit no useful answer!

Best Wishes,
Zeth

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 15:22:03 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:22:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Birmingham Airport saturday meeting point?
In-Reply-To: <4A44CAC2.1090201@comlounge.net>
References: <4A44B558.7090403@comlounge.net> <4A44CAC2.1090201@comlounge.net>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906260622j385dbb3fn405be079305ba7a6@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>:
> So let's simply say we meet close to the ticket office unless somebody
> has knowledge about the train station and proposes a better place :-)


Yes Christian is right, the ticket machines in the Train Station part
of Birmingham International is the most rational place to meet people.

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 15:30:19 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:30:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions - Update
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906260630v4916198fy5f0c36ea0a7e0537@mail.gmail.com>

Okay so it turns out that if you booked before the last three days,
you are in the Canalside.

If you booked in the last three days, the situation might be different
since we have filled the hotel. This is being worked on now.

Stay tuned, more news when I get it.

From Kevin.Stebbing at betfair.com  Fri Jun 26 15:36:25 2009
From: Kevin.Stebbing at betfair.com (Kevin Stebbing)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 14:36:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
In-Reply-To: <3e4e51a80906260308q1083eb4s927af489ad7d6496@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net><ff8a32f0906251055x80138d6w4749e021027be3dc@mail.gmail.com><4A43DA15.5060607@comlounge.net><ff8a32f0906251314q2167edffy52a9292ca64360cf@mail.gmail.com><4A446A02.2070304@linux.com><4e0973450906260035i575b4823q75de7332f9fb2da0@mail.gmail.com><4A4487F0.5070306@myrmidonprocess.com><3e4e51a80906260139r4bf9434ak3e8ba7abb445d2ee@mail.gmail.com><4e0973450906260212h31f87e02hbfae6af75bd47d2f@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4e51a80906260308q1083eb4s927af489ad7d6496@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E39E50172D7A6546BCE3E981C985C9874048B4D4@UKMAIL.sportex.com>

Sounds good to me.  Let's meet at the Wellington from 7pm.  I've updated the wiki, http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials.

See you tomorrow,
Kevin.

-----Original Message-----
From: europython-bounces+kevin.stebbing=betfair.com at python.org [mailto:europython-bounces+kevin.stebbing=betfair.com at python.org] On Behalf Of Ciar?n Mooney
Sent: 26 June 2009 11:08
To: Brian Brazil
Cc: europython at python.org
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?

> I've created http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials
>
> 7pm seems like a goodish time, we need a place though.
>
> Brian

Broad Street would be a no-no but if you care to walk just a little
bit into town you could go to The Wellington for a true taste of
British Ale.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.4806&mlon=-1.90069&zoom=17&layers=B000FTF

It is a CAMRA (http://www.camra.org.uk/) pub, serving a range of very
nice (and possibly very strong) real ales along with more mainstream
alcohol.

They do not serve food, however you are welcome to bring any food you
wish to eat and they will provide plates and cutlery.

I'd reccomend it, there will be other people with beards.... :)

Ciar?n
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From marius at gedmin.as  Fri Jun 26 16:00:02 2009
From: marius at gedmin.as (Marius Gedminas)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:00:02 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn Hotel on Booking Form
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906251204k20a65909k58cb8238becea586@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>
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On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 08:04:20PM +0100, John Pinner wrote:
> 2009/6/25 Marius Gedminas <marius at gedmin.as>
> > Has anyone made a custom public Google map with the venue and some of the
> > more popular hotels marked on it?
> 
> http://www.europython.eu/about/travel/

Oh, there it is!

Apparently Google Maps search limits the results geographically, so a
search for "EuroPython" found the maps for 2007 and 2008 conferences in
Vilnius, but to find the current one I had to search for "EuroPython
2009, Birmingham, UK".

Thanks!

Marius Gedminas
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From tobixen at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 16:02:44 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:02:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906260617t1dd89670rde34fe4ad84acf02@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ef2af3100906260609i1d5babeev5171ee73c7c6aebc@mail.gmail.com>
	<A5590B068BE7DA4E91C7ECBF2072157B0EC1F28927@ldnexc01.GLC.com>
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2009/6/26 Zeth <theology at gmail.com>:
> 2009/6/26 Petra Chong <petra.chong at glcuk.com>:
>> Since this contradicts what the hotels say, we are not sure where to go or who to contact to get this information.
>
> You went to Tobias who was the right person.

Pinner should be the right person.  I just commented because I'm
staying at Premier Inn, so I know it's canal side ;-)

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 16:19:25 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:19:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn Hotel on Booking Form
In-Reply-To: <C55A1F83-18CE-4E1C-9C15-3CF1C00060D9@infrae.com>
References: <e95443d90906250926h35a45bd1u338bcf3e3cb7338c@mail.gmail.com>
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	<C55A1F83-18CE-4E1C-9C15-3CF1C00060D9@infrae.com>
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Hello Kit,

2009/6/26 Kit BLAKE <kitblake at infrae.com>

> On 25 Jun 2009, at 18:56, Quentin Wright wrote:
>
>> It's the Canalside Premier Inn, see
>> http://www.europython.eu/about/accommodation/
>>
>
> If, when we registered, we chose rooms in the registration form, are those
> rooms at the Canalside Premier Inn already assigned? I just called to check,
> but they don't have our names, and a couple of us are coming to the
> tutorials.
>

None of the Infrae delegates booked a hotel through our website, only the
conference.


> Apparently our office manager booked rooms for us via the Premier Inn site,
> at Brindley Place, and so I think we have a double booking. But before I
> cancel I'd like to confirm our rooms at Canalside.


Don't cancel what your office manage booked! Because there are no more rooms
available.

Best wishes,

John
--


>
>
> Thanks,
> Kit
>
>
> --
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From bojan.bozic at ait.ac.at  Fri Jun 26 15:05:29 2009
From: bojan.bozic at ait.ac.at (Bojan Bozic)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:05:29 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Birmingham Airport saturday meeting point?
In-Reply-To: <4A44C043.7020507@aon.at>
References: <4A44B558.7090403@comlounge.net>  <4A44C043.7020507@aon.at>
Message-ID: <1246021529.18500.17.camel@hardy>

Hi guys!

I'm also traveling from Vienna (via Munich) and will arrive at 16:40.
It could maybe be helpful to meet at Birmingham International.

Greets,
Bojan.

On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 14:34 +0200, Gregor Lingl wrote:

> 
> Christian Scholz schrieb:
> > Hi!
> >
> > As I have never been to Birmingham Airport before, what would be a good
> > meeting point?
> >
> > I will try to meet ronny at departure and we will arrive at 1655 and
> > might wait for people arriving at 1735 so we can all take a train together.
> >   
> Hi Christian,
> 
> that's a good idea (for me). I'll be arriving at 17.35 from (Vienna via) 
> Frankfurt and I also have never
> been there before.
> 
> That's me:
> 
> http://picasaweb.google.com/gregor.lingl/ME#
> 
> Gregor
> 
> 
> 
> > (in any case, photos of me can be found here:
> > http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=mrtopf&w=all and my mobile is
> > +49 178 8128061)
> >
> > -- Christian
> >
> >
> >   
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From steve at holdenweb.com  Fri Jun 26 16:29:32 2009
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 10:29:32 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906260617j135de007i321bb447c9ef7cd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <A5590B068BE7DA4E91C7ECBF2072157B0EC1F28926@ldnexc01.GLC.com>
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Zeth wrote:
[...]
> Ringing them directly may indeed elicit no useful answer!
> 
A generic problem with "customer service" departments in these days,
when costs are cut to the point that no useful service can be provided.

This is great. It reminds me so much of the early days of PyCon.

Please, all readers, be aware that by now the organizers have issues
zinging past them at 100 miles per hour. Anything you can do to take
ownership of your problems will, I am sure, be much appreciated. Most
things can be sorted out on-site if they can't be handled in advance.

regards
 Steve
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From manuel at pixelbar.be  Fri Jun 26 09:00:50 2009
From: manuel at pixelbar.be (Manuel Weidmann (Pixelbar))
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 09:00:50 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday evening?
In-Reply-To: <4A446A02.2070304@linux.com>
References: <4A43972C.30000@comlounge.net>	<ff8a32f0906251055x80138d6w4749e021027be3dc@mail.gmail.com>	<4A43DA15.5060607@comlounge.net>
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	<4A446A02.2070304@linux.com>
Message-ID: <145784D3-3300-4650-BD10-1B74EABC6B51@pixelbar.be>

Hi,

I will arrive tomorrow on 11:00 AM at Birmingham Airport. If there's  
people up to "socialise" in the evening (or even throughout the day),  
I'm going ;) Maybe a newbie like me can already catch some things up.  
I saw that the most of the social venues are at the Australian Bar, so  
why not meet there?

Manuel



Am 26-Jun-09 um 08:26 schrieb Christopher Swift:

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> John Pinner wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>
>>
>>> John Pinner wrote:
>>>> Hello!
>>>>
>>>> 2009/6/25 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net <mailto:cs at comlounge.net 
>>>> >>
>>>>
>>>>    Hi!
>>>>
>>>>    I am arriving on saturday at 1700 at Birmingham Airport and I am
>>>>    wondering if there is some meetup planned for early arrivers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm sorry, we've been a bit too busy for that!
>>>>
>>>> We may see if the Zagora has room for us
>>>> http://europython.eu/about/eatingout/ and see maps.google.co.uk
>>>> <http://maps.google.co.uk>
>>> Well, it might just be good to know where eventually meet some
>>> pythonistas ;-) Will there be people doing preps at the venue?
>
> I'll be arriving in Birmingham at about 19:30, perhaps a bit too  
> late to
> socialise but if anyone has anything planned, do let me know! I'll  
> have
> to hook up first with my room-mate & see what he is up to so it  
> perhaps
> won't be 100% chance of me being able to attend anything in case
> something comes up.
>
>> Some people may be doing work on the network, but the main stuff  
>> like bag
>> stuffing will be on Monday afternoon.
>
> Can someone please explain to me what "bag stuffing" is?
>
>> I might
>>> even help :-)
>>>
>
> I'd like to help too given the chance!
> - --
> Christopher Swift
> http://launchpad.net/~chris
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From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 16:39:12 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:39:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Socials wiki page
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906260739p52325a51sd838a1b8898171a5@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

A wiki page called 'Socials' has been created:

http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials

If you organise any kind of social, whether a trip to the pub, or the
more interesting ideas that have been mooted, e.g. skating, salsa and
so on,  it would be nice for you to add it to that page.

Best Wishes,
Zeth

From rune.hansen at mac.com  Fri Jun 26 15:49:13 2009
From: rune.hansen at mac.com (Rune Hansen)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:49:13 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday night
Message-ID: <E0613DA9-3F40-47FC-A7AE-E0AE5315E639@mac.com>

I'm landing in Birmingham 23:20 (UK time) saturday night. I suspect no  
trains or busses runs this late. If anyone else arrives at this hour  
feel free to contact me so that we can share a cab to the city centre :)


/rune
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From duncan.parkes at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 16:55:06 2009
From: duncan.parkes at gmail.com (Duncan Parkes)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:55:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday night
In-Reply-To: <E0613DA9-3F40-47FC-A7AE-E0AE5315E639@mac.com>
References: <E0613DA9-3F40-47FC-A7AE-E0AE5315E639@mac.com>
Message-ID: <fd16b1e40906260755j35224d65m68acf0f9baaaf972@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Rune Hansen <rune.hansen at mac.com>:
> I'm landing in Birmingham 23:20 (UK time) saturday night. I suspect no
> trains or busses runs this late. If anyone else arrives at this hour feel
> free to contact me so that we can share a cab to the city centre :)

Last train from Birmingham International to Birmingham New Street is
at 23:47. You might just make it...

http://traintimes.org.uk/birmingham%20international/birmingham%20new%20street/23:00/2009-06-27

Duncan

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 17:12:54 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:12:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday night
In-Reply-To: <E0613DA9-3F40-47FC-A7AE-E0AE5315E639@mac.com>
References: <E0613DA9-3F40-47FC-A7AE-E0AE5315E639@mac.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906260812x6dfce39fqc78dd770acf97797@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Rune Hansen <rune.hansen at mac.com>:
> I'm landing in Birmingham 23:20 (UK time) saturday night. I suspect no
> trains or busses runs this late. If anyone else arrives at this hour feel
> free to contact me so that we can share a cab to the city centre :)

Taxi might be your best option at night, especially if you can share,
simply because you won't get lost at the other end in the night.

However there are some local buses (cheaper) as well as national
express coaches (bit more) at night. The relevant local buses are:

Depart: 23:59
Service Number: 900
COMET ROAD, Stand J, B'ham Airport Bus Terminal, Birmingham Airport

Depart: 0:29
Service Number: 900 	   	
COMET ROAD, Stand J, B'ham Airport Bus Terminal, Birmingham Airport

From tputon at genesilico.pl  Fri Jun 26 12:21:47 2009
From: tputon at genesilico.pl (Tomasz Puton)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:21:47 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] location of Etap Hotel
Message-ID: <4A44A13B.3010303@genesilico.pl>

Hi,
I've registered for EuroPython 09 and booked a room in Etap Hotel - 
where's it located? AFAIK there are two Etap Hotels in Birmingham: one 
is at 1 Great Colmore Street and the other one at Ambassador Road near 
the airport. I guess that's the first one, but I want to make sure 
before I touch down in Birmingham ;)

Thanks for help!

Best,
Tomek

-- 
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Bioinformatics Laboratory
Institute of Molecular Biology and Biotechnology
Adam Mickiewicz University
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Phone: +48 61 829 58 39
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From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 17:23:05 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:23:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions - Update
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906260630v4916198fy5f0c36ea0a7e0537@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b1f5d7040906260630v4916198fy5f0c36ea0a7e0537@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906260823x69fd5330q75b3c7230102aeec@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Zeth <theology at gmail.com>:
> Okay so it turns out that if you booked before the last three days,
> you are in the Canalside.
>
> If you booked in the last three days, the situation might be different
> since we have filled the hotel. This is being worked on now.
>
> Stay tuned, more news when I get it.

So it turns out that the last-minute bookers have filled the canalside
completely, and we have closed the booking for that hotel. John has
contacted/will contact anyone that registered recently and that we
can't fit in that particular hotel. It is only a handful now that fall
into that camp.

To everyone getting ready to fly, see you all at EuroPython!

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 17:25:06 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:25:06 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] location of Etap Hotel
In-Reply-To: <4A44A13B.3010303@genesilico.pl>
References: <4A44A13B.3010303@genesilico.pl>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906260825sdaa35a7jc8a72e033fa03007@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Tomasz Puton <tputon at genesilico.pl>:
> Hi,
> I've registered for EuroPython 09 and booked a room in Etap Hotel - where's
> it located? AFAIK there are two Etap Hotels in Birmingham: one is at 1 Great
> Colmore Street and the other one at Ambassador Road near the airport. I
> guess that's the first one, but I want to make sure before I touch down in
> Birmingham ;)
>
> Thanks for help!

The former, it is just off Bristol Street in Great Colmore Steet.

From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Fri Jun 26 18:16:02 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:16:02 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] power sockets: enough available?
In-Reply-To: <2b52d5bf0906260321g64d412cer860663ba1ed80215@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b52d5bf0906260321g64d412cer860663ba1ed80215@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ced5f0f60906260916q3369f469re1b437d0becac258@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/26/09, Reinout van Rees <reinout at vanrees.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  Are there enough power sockets all over the place at the conference?
>  I've sometimes brought my own extension cord, but that's obviously
>  quite bulky.
>
>  As I'll be using my laptop all the time (blog...), I'll need a socket
>  from time to time :-)


 i've brought 3 8-way sockets.

From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Fri Jun 26 18:16:02 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:16:02 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] power sockets: enough available?
In-Reply-To: <2b52d5bf0906260321g64d412cer860663ba1ed80215@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b52d5bf0906260321g64d412cer860663ba1ed80215@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ced5f0f60906260916q3369f469re1b437d0becac258@mail.gmail.com>

On 6/26/09, Reinout van Rees <reinout at vanrees.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  Are there enough power sockets all over the place at the conference?
>  I've sometimes brought my own extension cord, but that's obviously
>  quite bulky.
>
>  As I'll be using my laptop all the time (blog...), I'll need a socket
>  from time to time :-)


 i've brought 3 8-way sockets.

From arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 18:26:17 2009
From: arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com (Arnoldas Grigutis)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:26:17 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
Message-ID: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone!
What about wireless internet connection at the venue?
Is wifi free in Etap Hotel?

Arnoldas
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From q at clocksoft.com  Fri Jun 26 18:26:34 2009
From: q at clocksoft.com (Quentin Wright)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:26:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] C5 power cords with a British plug?
In-Reply-To: <20090625222304.GC23299@jyrki-laptop>
References: <20090625222304.GC23299@jyrki-laptop>
Message-ID: <4A44F6BA.5030402@clocksoft.com>

Jyrki Pulliainen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I was wondering if anyone would know can you find affordable C5 power
> cords with a British plug in Birmingham? I have a huge converter, but
> I'm not too keen to use it :)
>
> Oh, and the C5 looks like:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Plug_Kleeblattstecker_DIN_VDE_0625_Teil_1_Normblatt_C5.jpg
>
> - Jyrki
>
>   
Hi Jyrki,

Find the tech team desk - by the cloakroom in the Conservatiore when you
arrive and there be a cord there which you can use for the duration of
the conference.

Q

--
Quentin Wright




From q at clocksoft.com  Fri Jun 26 18:31:59 2009
From: q at clocksoft.com (Quentin Wright)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:31:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] power sockets: enough available?
In-Reply-To: <2b52d5bf0906260321g64d412cer860663ba1ed80215@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b52d5bf0906260321g64d412cer860663ba1ed80215@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A44F7FF.7020303@clocksoft.com>

Reinout van Rees wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Are there enough power sockets all over the place at the conference?
> I've sometimes brought my own extension cord, but that's obviously
> quite bulky.
>
> As I'll be using my laptop all the time (blog...), I'll need a socket
> from time to time :-)
>
>
> Reinout
>
>   
We will endeavour to get enough sockets using flying leads in most places.

The only area where we may have difficulty in achieving an adequate
concentration is in the Adrian Boult Hall.

Q
--
Quentin Wright


From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 18:33:52 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:33:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Socials wiki page
In-Reply-To: <fd5a55150906260917sab10f10j21aa36596eed6567@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b1f5d7040906260739p52325a51sd838a1b8898171a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd5a55150906260917sab10f10j21aa36596eed6567@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906260933xd7cd9c3i9d15da4a2f7997db@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Arnoldas Grigutis <arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com>:
> Where is the Australian Bar?

It is called the walkabout:
http://www.walkabout.eu.com/home/venues/midlands/birmingham

You won't miss it, you will go past it all the time.

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 18:41:04 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:41:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
In-Reply-To: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906260941ucfa08f1r200a16ab80366ca1@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Arnoldas Grigutis <arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com>:
> Hi everyone!
> What about wireless internet connection at the venue?

Yes the wonderful Quentin has organised wireless in the venue.

> Is wifi free in Etap Hotel?

I don't think so, but I am not sure. People who stayed in the UK
conferences found the best approach to do everything they needed in
the conference venue, which is open from first thing in the morning
until the early evening. Wifi in hotels is never up to much.

See you at EuroPython!

From q at clocksoft.com  Fri Jun 26 18:45:49 2009
From: q at clocksoft.com (Quentin Wright)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:45:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
In-Reply-To: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A44FB3D.8080304@clocksoft.com>

Arnoldas Grigutis wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> What about wireless internet connection at the venue?
> Is wifi free in Etap Hotel?
>
> Arnoldas
>
>   
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>   
Hi Arnoldas,

Details about internet connectivity at hotels:

http://www.europython.eu/about/accommodation/

The wifi at the Etap isn't free and is of poor quality by the time we
are all in there.

Wifi at the Conservatoire should be OK, but we may have difficulties at
the other venues - that's to say on the tutorial days.

Q
--
Quentin Wright

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 19:02:23 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:02:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] More Premier Inn questions
In-Reply-To: <A5590B068BE7DA4E91C7ECBF2072157B0EC1F28926@ldnexc01.GLC.com>
References: <A5590B068BE7DA4E91C7ECBF2072157B0EC1F28926@ldnexc01.GLC.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906261002j22739ca6kc7fb78349c58dfa2@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Petra,

2009/6/26 Petra Chong <petra.chong at glcuk.com>

>  Hello,
>
> A party of five from my company are attending Europython. We have been
> trying to track down which Premier Inn that we're booked at, somewhat
> unsuccessfully. I have called Brindley Place and Canalside and neither has
> my name. The nice lady at Canalside said that she was waiting to hear back
> from a Mr Pinner (? spelling ?) about a final list of names.
>
> Could anyone shed some light on this please? Some of us are arriving
> tomorrow evening.
>
>

I have double checked this with Sharon at the Premier Inn Canalside this
afternoon (there had been some confusion with them as the member of staff
handling our booking is off work ill).

Your party is booked into the conference as follows:

Jonathan Marshall : no hotel booked by you
Peter Bunyan : no hotel booked by you
Simon Letten : Premier Inn Canalside booked 5 nights from tomorrow, Saturday
Petra Chong : Premier Inn Canalside booked 5 nights from tomorrow, Saturday
Samantha Carelse : No hotel booked by you.

I hope this clarifies things.

best wishes,

John
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From quest at lysator.liu.se  Fri Jun 26 18:33:18 2009
From: quest at lysator.liu.se (Anders Qvist)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:33:18 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Laura is delayed
Message-ID: <87prcr7y5t.fsf@whisper.windwards.net>

Laura Creighton just called me and asked me to inform those concernded
that her and Jacob's flight will be delayed (to or from Birmingham, I
didn't quite get which direction over the phone) and that she will
contact John Tinner(sp?) as soon as she arrives.
-- 
"How can I tell that the road signed to hell - doesn't lead up to heaven?"
  -- Peter Hammill; The Comet, The Course, The Tail

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 19:10:33 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:10:33 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Laura is delayed
In-Reply-To: <87prcr7y5t.fsf@whisper.windwards.net>
References: <87prcr7y5t.fsf@whisper.windwards.net>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906261010l29cc83crd834e5b523dddac0@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Anders Qvist <quest at lysator.liu.se>:
> Laura Creighton just called me and asked me to inform those concernded
> that her and Jacob's flight will be delayed (to or from Birmingham, I
> didn't quite get which direction over the phone) and that she will
> contact John Tinner(sp?) as soon as she arrives.

Pinner I think ;) She is coming to us here in Birmingham.

Thanks for letting us know!

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 19:10:45 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:10:45 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Birmingham Airport saturday meeting point?
In-Reply-To: <4A44CAC2.1090201@comlounge.net>
References: <4A44B558.7090403@comlounge.net> <4A44CAC2.1090201@comlounge.net>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906261010r73fb842bxf35c82e47d24252b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!

2009/6/26 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net>

> Christian Scholz wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > As I have never been to Birmingham Airport before, what would be a good
> > meeting point?
> >
> > I will try to meet ronny at departure and we will arrive at 1655 and
> > might wait for people arriving at 1735 so we can all take a train
> together.
> >
>
> I checked and people seem to be arriving at T1 and T2 which probably
> means that it's best to meet at the train station which can be reached
> by the air-link shuttle.
>
> So let's simply say we meet close to the ticket office unless somebody
> has knowledge about the train station and proposes a better place :-)


It may be more agreeable to meet at the bar on the Airport Terminal 1 first
floor concourse, I think it's called the Wetherspoons Dragonfly pub.

best wishes,

John
--


>
> -- Christian
>
>
> --
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From q at clocksoft.com  Fri Jun 26 19:10:56 2009
From: q at clocksoft.com (Quentin Wright)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:10:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
In-Reply-To: <200906261749.51571.sparks.m@gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A44FB3D.8080304@clocksoft.com>
	<200906261749.51571.sparks.m@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A450120.2010905@clocksoft.com>

Michael Sparks wrote:
> Hi Quentin,
>
> On Friday 26 June 2009 17:45:49 Quentin Wright wrote:
>   
>> but we may have difficulties at the other venues - that's to say on
>> the tutorial days. 
>>     
>
> Could you elaborate on this ? Is there anything I can do to alleviate this ?
> (Guessing this means wifi at the CBSO centre may be a challenge)
>
>
> Michael.
>   
Hi Michael,

The bandwidth may not be so good at the CBSO centre, and the location of
the one existing access point they have is not very good. We are
planning on substituting our own router and may be putting in another
somewhere else. We can't get in there to do things until 0830 on Sunday,
when we will know more.

We had been promised wireless in the Library rooms, but I was advised
this afternoon that it doesn't work. A case for investigation on Sunday.

Q


From q at clocksoft.com  Fri Jun 26 19:12:19 2009
From: q at clocksoft.com (Quentin Wright)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:12:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Laura is delayed
In-Reply-To: <87prcr7y5t.fsf@whisper.windwards.net>
References: <87prcr7y5t.fsf@whisper.windwards.net>
Message-ID: <4A450173.8080106@clocksoft.com>

Anders Qvist wrote:
> Laura Creighton just called me and asked me to inform those concernded
> that her and Jacob's flight will be delayed (to or from Birmingham, I
> didn't quite get which direction over the phone) and that she will
> contact John Tinner(sp?) as soon as she arrives.
>   
We, that's to say John Pinner had a phone call. They had to turn round
in order to get the plane fixed, or maybe use another one.

Q

From funthyme at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 19:12:25 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:12:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Laura is delayed
In-Reply-To: <87prcr7y5t.fsf@whisper.windwards.net>
References: <87prcr7y5t.fsf@whisper.windwards.net>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906261012h1dba72f5mc8e70ad2fa645640@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, I spoke to Jacob earlier: they will be two hours late.

John
--

2009/6/26 Anders Qvist <quest at lysator.liu.se>

> Laura Creighton just called me and asked me to inform those concernded
> that her and Jacob's flight will be delayed (to or from Birmingham, I
> didn't quite get which direction over the phone) and that she will
> contact John Tinner(sp?) as soon as she arrives.
> --
> "How can I tell that the road signed to hell - doesn't lead up to heaven?"
>  -- Peter Hammill; The Comet, The Course, The Tail
> _______________________________________________
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From geoff.bache at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 19:54:51 2009
From: geoff.bache at gmail.com (Geoff Bache)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:54:51 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
In-Reply-To: <4A450120.2010905@clocksoft.com>
References: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A44FB3D.8080304@clocksoft.com>
	<200906261749.51571.sparks.m@gmail.com>
	<4A450120.2010905@clocksoft.com>
Message-ID: <6e9920950906261054j436b283cj6fb7cd03f1238796@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'd really appreciate knowing as soon as possible whether wireless
will be available
in my tutorial (TextTest, in the CBSO on Sunday afternoon). I'd rather
planned on
participants being able to read online documentation, and there's always
people who haven't installed the software beforehand as well...

Thanks for your efforts.

Regards,
Geoff Bache

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Quentin Wright<q at clocksoft.com> wrote:
> Michael Sparks wrote:
>> Hi Quentin,
>>
>> On Friday 26 June 2009 17:45:49 Quentin Wright wrote:
>>
>>> but we may have difficulties at the other venues - that's to say on
>>> the tutorial days.
>>>
>>
>> Could you elaborate on this ? Is there anything I can do to alleviate this ?
>> (Guessing this means wifi at the CBSO centre may be a challenge)
>>
>>
>> Michael.
>>
> Hi Michael,
>
> The bandwidth may not be so good at the CBSO centre, and the location of
> the one existing access point they have is not very good. We are
> planning on substituting our own router and may be putting in another
> somewhere else. We can't get in there to do things until 0830 on Sunday,
> when we will know more.
>
> We had been promised wireless in the Library rooms, but I was advised
> this afternoon that it doesn't work. A case for investigation on Sunday.
>
> Q
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From q at clocksoft.com  Fri Jun 26 20:01:13 2009
From: q at clocksoft.com (Quentin Wright)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:01:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
In-Reply-To: <6e9920950906261054j436b283cj6fb7cd03f1238796@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>	
	<4A44FB3D.8080304@clocksoft.com>	
	<200906261749.51571.sparks.m@gmail.com>	
	<4A450120.2010905@clocksoft.com>
	<6e9920950906261054j436b283cj6fb7cd03f1238796@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A450CE9.2040306@clocksoft.com>

Hi Geoff,

We should be OK.

Q


Geoff Bache wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'd really appreciate knowing as soon as possible whether wireless
> will be available
> in my tutorial (TextTest, in the CBSO on Sunday afternoon). I'd rather
> planned on
> participants being able to read online documentation, and there's always
> people who haven't installed the software beforehand as well...
>
> Thanks for your efforts.
>
> Regards,
> Geoff Bache
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Quentin Wright<q at clocksoft.com> wrote:
>   
>> Michael Sparks wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi Quentin,
>>>
>>> On Friday 26 June 2009 17:45:49 Quentin Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> but we may have difficulties at the other venues - that's to say on
>>>> the tutorial days.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Could you elaborate on this ? Is there anything I can do to alleviate this ?
>>> (Guessing this means wifi at the CBSO centre may be a challenge)
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael.
>>>
>>>       
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> The bandwidth may not be so good at the CBSO centre, and the location of
>> the one existing access point they have is not very good. We are
>> planning on substituting our own router and may be putting in another
>> somewhere else. We can't get in there to do things until 0830 on Sunday,
>> when we will know more.
>>
>> We had been promised wireless in the Library rooms, but I was advised
>> this afternoon that it doesn't work. A case for investigation on Sunday.
>>
>> Q
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>>     


From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 20:05:51 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:05:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
In-Reply-To: <4A450CE9.2040306@clocksoft.com>
References: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A44FB3D.8080304@clocksoft.com>
	<200906261749.51571.sparks.m@gmail.com>
	<4A450120.2010905@clocksoft.com>
	<6e9920950906261054j436b283cj6fb7cd03f1238796@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A450CE9.2040306@clocksoft.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906261105i7bb2528epb95a21555bcee6d1@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Geoff!

2009/6/26 Geoff Bache <geoff.bache at gmail.com>:
> participants being able to read online documentation, and there's always
> people who haven't installed the software beforehand as well...

2009/6/26 Quentin Wright <q at clocksoft.com>:
> We should be OK.

It might be worth having these on a USB stick or CD just in case.

See you at EuroPython.

Best Wishes,
Zeth

From cs at comlounge.net  Fri Jun 26 20:07:25 2009
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:07:25 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Birmingham Airport saturday meeting point?
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906261010r73fb842bxf35c82e47d24252b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A44B558.7090403@comlounge.net> <4A44CAC2.1090201@comlounge.net>
	<ff8a32f0906261010r73fb842bxf35c82e47d24252b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A450E5D.7090706@comlounge.net>

John Pinner wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> 2009/6/26 Christian Scholz <cs at comlounge.net <mailto:cs at comlounge.net>>
> 
>     Christian Scholz wrote:
>     > Hi!
>     >
>     > As I have never been to Birmingham Airport before, what would be a
>     good
>     > meeting point?
>     >
>     > I will try to meet ronny at departure and we will arrive at 1655 and
>     > might wait for people arriving at 1735 so we can all take a train
>     together.
>     >
> 
>     I checked and people seem to be arriving at T1 and T2 which probably
>     means that it's best to meet at the train station which can be reached
>     by the air-link shuttle.
> 
>     So let's simply say we meet close to the ticket office unless somebody
>     has knowledge about the train station and proposes a better place :-)
> 
> 
> It may be more agreeable to meet at the bar on the Airport Terminal 1
> first floor concourse, I think it's called the Wetherspoons Dragonfly pub.

Ok, I think I will arrive at T2 and the rest at T1 so I have 30 mins to
get to T1. So let's meet at that bar!

And we have to pass the ticket office on the way to the train anyway. So
whoever waits there might join us then. It might be helpful to wear
Pythonista t-shirts ;-)

-- Christian



> 
> best wishes,
> 
> John
> --
> 
> 
> 
>     -- Christian
> 
> 
>     --
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>     COM.lounge GmbH                              blog: http://mrtopf.de/blog
>     Hanbrucher Str. 33                                       Skype: HerrTopf
>     52064 Aachen                             Video Blog: http://comlounge.tv
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>     http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 
> 


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52064 Aachen                             Video Blog: http://comlounge.tv
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From michael at voidspace.org.uk  Fri Jun 26 20:08:28 2009
From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:08:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
In-Reply-To: <6e9920950906261054j436b283cj6fb7cd03f1238796@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>	<4A44FB3D.8080304@clocksoft.com>	<200906261749.51571.sparks.m@gmail.com>	<4A450120.2010905@clocksoft.com>
	<6e9920950906261054j436b283cj6fb7cd03f1238796@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A450E9C.1060104@voidspace.org.uk>

Hmmm... our tutorial requires an internet connection as well as we take 
people through creating a Twitter client  in IronPython...

Michael

Geoff Bache wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'd really appreciate knowing as soon as possible whether wireless
> will be available
> in my tutorial (TextTest, in the CBSO on Sunday afternoon). I'd rather
> planned on
> participants being able to read online documentation, and there's always
> people who haven't installed the software beforehand as well...
>
> Thanks for your efforts.
>
> Regards,
> Geoff Bache
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Quentin Wright<q at clocksoft.com> wrote:
>   
>> Michael Sparks wrote:
>>     
>>> Hi Quentin,
>>>
>>> On Friday 26 June 2009 17:45:49 Quentin Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> but we may have difficulties at the other venues - that's to say on
>>>> the tutorial days.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> Could you elaborate on this ? Is there anything I can do to alleviate this ?
>>> (Guessing this means wifi at the CBSO centre may be a challenge)
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael.
>>>
>>>       
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> The bandwidth may not be so good at the CBSO centre, and the location of
>> the one existing access point they have is not very good. We are
>> planning on substituting our own router and may be putting in another
>> somewhere else. We can't get in there to do things until 0830 on Sunday,
>> when we will know more.
>>
>> We had been promised wireless in the Library rooms, but I was advised
>> this afternoon that it doesn't work. A case for investigation on Sunday.
>>
>> Q
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>
>>     
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>   


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From michael at voidspace.org.uk  Fri Jun 26 20:08:42 2009
From: michael at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:08:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
In-Reply-To: <4A450CE9.2040306@clocksoft.com>
References: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>		<4A44FB3D.8080304@clocksoft.com>		<200906261749.51571.sparks.m@gmail.com>		<4A450120.2010905@clocksoft.com>	<6e9920950906261054j436b283cj6fb7cd03f1238796@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A450CE9.2040306@clocksoft.com>
Message-ID: <4A450EAA.7000000@voidspace.org.uk>

Quentin Wright wrote:
> Hi Geoff,
>
> We should be OK.
>   

*phew*

Michael

> Q
>
>
> Geoff Bache wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'd really appreciate knowing as soon as possible whether wireless
>> will be available
>> in my tutorial (TextTest, in the CBSO on Sunday afternoon). I'd rather
>> planned on
>> participants being able to read online documentation, and there's always
>> people who haven't installed the software beforehand as well...
>>
>> Thanks for your efforts.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Geoff Bache
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Quentin Wright<q at clocksoft.com> wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Michael Sparks wrote:
>>>     
>>>       
>>>> Hi Quentin,
>>>>
>>>> On Friday 26 June 2009 17:45:49 Quentin Wright wrote:
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>>>> but we may have difficulties at the other venues - that's to say on
>>>>> the tutorial days.
>>>>>
>>>>>         
>>>>>           
>>>> Could you elaborate on this ? Is there anything I can do to alleviate this ?
>>>> (Guessing this means wifi at the CBSO centre may be a challenge)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael.
>>>>
>>>>       
>>>>         
>>> Hi Michael,
>>>
>>> The bandwidth may not be so good at the CBSO centre, and the location of
>>> the one existing access point they have is not very good. We are
>>> planning on substituting our own router and may be putting in another
>>> somewhere else. We can't get in there to do things until 0830 on Sunday,
>>> when we will know more.
>>>
>>> We had been promised wireless in the Library rooms, but I was advised
>>> this afternoon that it doesn't work. A case for investigation on Sunday.
>>>
>>> Q
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> EuroPython mailing list
>>> EuroPython at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>>
>>>     
>>>       
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>   


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From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Fri Jun 26 21:59:18 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:59:18 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Birmingham Airport saturday meeting point?
In-Reply-To: <4A450E5D.7090706@comlounge.net>
References: <4A44B558.7090403@comlounge.net> <4A44CAC2.1090201@comlounge.net>
	<ff8a32f0906261010r73fb842bxf35c82e47d24252b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A450E5D.7090706@comlounge.net>
Message-ID: <ced5f0f60906261259q512ed360uddff332b4a5a6110@mail.gmail.com>

>  > It may be more agreeable to meet at the bar on the Airport Terminal 1
>  > first floor concourse, I think it's called the Wetherspoons Dragonfly pub.
>
>
> Ok, I think I will arrive at T2 and the rest at T1 so I have 30 mins to
>  get to T1. So let's meet at that bar!

 marie baby and i arrived an entire day early so duh, we're here.
will drop by as well.  follow the sound of "oooh, ahhh, what a cute
baabeee" or "scream, scream, waaahhh" or perhaps both...

From white_keith at btopenworld.com  Fri Jun 26 22:15:12 2009
From: white_keith at btopenworld.com (Keith White)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 21:15:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] First aid?
Message-ID: <4A452C50.5020901@btopenworld.com>

In the unlikely event of someone needing first aid medical attention 
will there be:

* First Aid officers at the conference venue and
* is there a First Aid station/room there?

How are delegates/organisers being advised of who and where of these 
facilities?  I searched on the EuroPython web and wiki for 'first aid' 
and nothing came up.

Keith
~~~~~~~

From tobixen at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 23:00:53 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:00:53 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
In-Reply-To: <6e9920950906261054j436b283cj6fb7cd03f1238796@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A44FB3D.8080304@clocksoft.com>
	<200906261749.51571.sparks.m@gmail.com>
	<4A450120.2010905@clocksoft.com>
	<6e9920950906261054j436b283cj6fb7cd03f1238796@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef2af3100906261400o7ba8f413ic194c8515a2864b1@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Geoff Bache <geoff.bache at gmail.com>:
> I'd really appreciate knowing as soon as possible whether wireless
> will be available
> in my tutorial (TextTest, in the CBSO on Sunday afternoon). I'd rather
> planned on
> participants being able to read online documentation, and there's always
> people who haven't installed the software beforehand as well...

In my experience, it can be quite useful and not so difficult to
arrange some backup plans:

1) what you really need is probably just a working intranet.  Some
laptops can be used as wifi access points, if one of the participants
can provide this you should be good.  Alternatively there exists light
weight "travel routers", though maybe it's a bit short time now to
search for such a thing.  Alternatively, "ordinary" access points are
cheap and can be borrowed or bought anywhere and should serve you
well.

2) GPRS/UMTS works almost anywhere.  It should be sufficient that one
of the participants have a cheap UK subscription and the possibility
to use it from his own laptop or share it out.

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 23:00:29 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:00:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] First aid?
In-Reply-To: <4A452C50.5020901@btopenworld.com>
References: <4A452C50.5020901@btopenworld.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906261400r6b7c2791h5dea9ec9a1edb353@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Keith White <white_keith at btopenworld.com>:
> In the unlikely event of someone needing first aid medical attention will
> there be:
>
> * First Aid officers at the conference venue and
> * is there a First Aid station/room there?
>
> How are delegates/organisers being advised of who and where of these
> facilities? ?I searched on the EuroPython web and wiki for 'first aid' and
> nothing came up,

Top marks for most original question. We have held two UK Python
conferences and two Linux conferences in the venue without losing
anyone yet, praise to Christ/Allah/Guido.

I will try to answer you. Firstly, we will give extensive safety and
other information at the conference opening.

The venue (a university) provides its own stewards, if you have a
first-aid problem please go to the stewards who will call the relevant
people.

If you have a problem outside the venue, please phone NHS direct on
0845 4647 for minor problems, or 999 or 112 (your choice) for
emergencies. There is also a 'Boots' pharmacy within walking distance
of the venue.

Incidentally, nurses qualify for the concession rate.

See you at EuroPython! Yay!

Best Wishes,
Zeth

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 23:36:21 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:36:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday 27th June - Early Arriver Social - Zagora
	Restaurant
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906261436n87dcfb2h7a154352e561535a@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

Due to popular demand, John has booked the most popular restaurant
from last year's PyConUK. John ate their today and said the food was
still good. Laura said the vegetarian is good too. So Saturday 27th
June, at 7.30pm.

It is Moroccan food, the menu is at:

http://www.zagora-restaurant.co.uk/menu_main.html

Photo's of the last visit:
http://gallery3.pyconuk.org/detail/17/
http://gallery3.pyconuk.org/detail/18/
http://gallery3.pyconuk.org/detail/19/ - excuse the hair
http://gallery3.pyconuk.org/detail/24/
http://gallery3.pyconuk.org/detail/21/

The restaurant requires numbers, so if you think you are coming, then
please add yourself to the wiki here ASAP:

http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials

If you arrive in Birmingham and did not get around to the wiki, just
come, but we prefer the wiki if you can.

Best Wishes,
Zeth

From theology at gmail.com  Fri Jun 26 23:47:22 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:47:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Saturday 27th June - Early Arriver Social - Zagora
	Restaurant
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906261436n87dcfb2h7a154352e561535a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b1f5d7040906261436n87dcfb2h7a154352e561535a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906261447x12607933gb46b66f0db9d2c4b@mail.gmail.com>

BTW, the restaurant is underneath the conference venue:

http://bit.ly/zagora

2009/6/26 Zeth <theology at gmail.com>:
> Hello all,
>
> Due to popular demand, John has booked the most popular restaurant
> from last year's PyConUK. John ate their today and said the food was
> still good. Laura said the vegetarian is good too. So Saturday 27th
> June, at 7.30pm.
>
> It is Moroccan food, the menu is at:
>
> http://www.zagora-restaurant.co.uk/menu_main.html
>
> Photo's of the last visit:
> http://gallery3.pyconuk.org/detail/17/
> http://gallery3.pyconuk.org/detail/18/
> http://gallery3.pyconuk.org/detail/19/ - excuse the hair
> http://gallery3.pyconuk.org/detail/24/
> http://gallery3.pyconuk.org/detail/21/
>
> The restaurant requires numbers, so if you think you are coming, then
> please add yourself to the wiki here ASAP:
>
> http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials
>
> If you arrive in Birmingham and did not get around to the wiki, just
> come, but we prefer the wiki if you can.
>
> Best Wishes,
> Zeth
>

From wiktor.idzikowski at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 00:09:25 2009
From: wiktor.idzikowski at gmail.com (Wiktor Idzikowski)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:09:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
Message-ID: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Could you share some information about vegan friendly places near venue?

Regards,
Wiktor Idzikowski

From tom at holizz.com  Sat Jun 27 00:21:38 2009
From: tom at holizz.com (Tom Adams)
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:21:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <f909bf50906261521i75e8e52fre2343bcd44fe9ef6@mail.gmail.com>

> Could you share some information about vegan friendly places near venue?

The only place I know of is The Warehouse Cafe (
http://www.thewarehousecafe.com/ ). They do really nice food.

And the lunches provided at the conference are rather good. Lots of
people have commented in past years at PyConUK that they'd rather have
had the vegan option.


Tom Adams

From theology at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 01:09:02 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:09:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <f909bf50906261521i75e8e52fre2343bcd44fe9ef6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<f909bf50906261521i75e8e52fre2343bcd44fe9ef6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906261609p10bd79e8qcab152d0f53a0910@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/26 Tom Adams <tom at holizz.com>:
>> Could you share some information about vegan friendly places near venue?

I like Manic Organic:
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&safe=off&num=20&ie=UTF8&q=manic+organic+kings+heath&fb=1&split=1&gl=uk&cid=17564250469311479315&li=lmd&ll=52.438537,-1.88879&spn=0.013997,0.043602&z=15&iwloc=A

But it is not really near the venue, but if you are there for sprints
one could go on an adventure there.

>
> The only place I know of is The Warehouse Cafe (
> http://www.thewarehousecafe.com/ ). They do really nice food.
>
> And the lunches provided at the conference are rather good. Lots of
> people have commented in past years at PyConUK that they'd rather have
> had the vegan option.
>
>
> Tom Adams
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From funthyme at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 01:58:17 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 00:58:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906261400o7ba8f413ic194c8515a2864b1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>
	<4A44FB3D.8080304@clocksoft.com>
	<200906261749.51571.sparks.m@gmail.com>
	<4A450120.2010905@clocksoft.com>
	<6e9920950906261054j436b283cj6fb7cd03f1238796@mail.gmail.com>
	<ef2af3100906261400o7ba8f413ic194c8515a2864b1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906261658j37e44e6ewa0fc86f745493518@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/26 Tobias Brox <tobixen at gmail.com>

> 2009/6/26 Geoff Bache <geoff.bache at gmail.com>:
> > I'd really appreciate knowing as soon as possible whether wireless
> > will be available
> > in my tutorial (TextTest, in the CBSO on Sunday afternoon). I'd rather
> > planned on
> > participants being able to read online documentation, and there's always
> > people who haven't installed the software beforehand as well...
>
> In my experience, it can be quite useful and not so difficult to
> arrange some backup plans:
>
> 1) what you really need is probably just a working intranet.  Some
> laptops can be used as wifi access points, if one of the participants
> can provide this you should be good.  Alternatively there exists light
> weight "travel routers", though maybe it's a bit short time now to
> search for such a thing.  Alternatively, "ordinary" access points are
> cheap and can be borrowed or bought anywhere and should serve you
> well.
>
> 2) GPRS/UMTS works almost anywhere.  It should be sufficient that one
> of the participants have a cheap UK subscription and the possibility
> to use it from his own laptop or share it out.


Tried it there last week and it was poor.

John
--


>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From lukasz.langa at stxnext.pl  Sat Jun 27 08:27:32 2009
From: lukasz.langa at stxnext.pl (=?UTF-8?Q?=C5=81ukasz_Langa?=)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 08:27:32 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] power sockets: enough available?
In-Reply-To: <3e4e51a80906260324o2cf22bf7wd8e95f8f2443ebfc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b52d5bf0906260321g64d412cer860663ba1ed80215@mail.gmail.com>
	<3e4e51a80906260324o2cf22bf7wd8e95f8f2443ebfc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6514D20D-9648-46AB-AB9B-194234E0E9FC@stxnext.pl>

Ciar?n Mooney wrote:

> Hi,
>
> The tech team will be endeavouring to provide as many plugs as we can,
> a vague answer but all I can say for certain. We will try and have
> some european plug sockets too, but I imagine they will be in short
> supply.
>
> I suggest bringing a EU-->UK adapter, as then you'll be more likely to
> find somewhere to fill your batteries with more juice.
>


I'm taking one 4-way continental extension cord and one euro->UK  
adaptor.

-- 
Best regards,
?ukasz Langa
Senior Developer



tel: +48 791 080 144
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From dalke at dalkescientific.com  Sat Jun 27 09:05:24 2009
From: dalke at dalkescientific.com (Andrew Dalke)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 01:05:24 -0600
Subject: [EuroPython] reservation.append(0, day)
Message-ID: <3FE658B3-BA1D-4AC5-9E66-6D9D936CEEDF@dalkescientific.com>

Hi!

   I had hoped to stay with a friend on Sunday evening but that fell  
threw. I already have reservations starting Monday evening. What do I  
need to do to add an extra day at the start of that reservation?

  I figure that the hotel won't be as full then, so a room is still  
possible. But otherwise - anyone have space available for that night?

				Andrew
				dalke at dalkescientific.com



From alex at moreati.org.uk  Sat Jun 27 10:05:39 2009
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:05:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] reservation.append(0, day)
In-Reply-To: <3FE658B3-BA1D-4AC5-9E66-6D9D936CEEDF@dalkescientific.com>
References: <3FE658B3-BA1D-4AC5-9E66-6D9D936CEEDF@dalkescientific.com>
Message-ID: <425e93af0906270105n421ea69cy731354c61f40646@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/27 Andrew Dalke <dalke at dalkescientific.com>

> Hi!
>
>  I had hoped to stay with a friend on Sunday evening but that fell threw. I
> already have reservations starting Monday evening. What do I need to do to
> add an extra day at the start of that reservation?
>
>  I figure that the hotel won't be as full then, so a room is still
> possible. But otherwise - anyone have space available for that night?
>

Andrew, Pleas checkout this page for room shares:

http://wiki.europython.eu/RoomSharing
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From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Sat Jun 27 10:13:33 2009
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 10:13:33 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906261658j37e44e6ewa0fc86f745493518@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fd5a55150906260926y385277c1nff8a30efef842a5b@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <op.uv6bsv2d5mynk9@fuchsia.local>

Am 27.06.2009, 01:58 Uhr, schrieb John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com>:

> Tried it there last week and it was poor.

Quite likely - signal attenuation has a lot to do with the frequency and  
the environment. An environment that's not conducive wifi signals won't be  
good for UMTS. Anyway what is it with this obsession with being online all  
the time? I know it's a minority opinion but I find it extremely  
distracting having numpties all around me on IRC and e-mail, etc. while  
I'm trying to pay attention to a speaker. Oh for the halcyon days of  
Charleroi with an internet room!

Charlie

From christopher.swift at linux.com  Sat Jun 27 12:21:41 2009
From: christopher.swift at linux.com (Christopher Swift)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:21:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] First aid?
In-Reply-To: <4A452C50.5020901@btopenworld.com>
References: <4A452C50.5020901@btopenworld.com>
Message-ID: <4A45F2B5.2070002@linux.com>

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Keith White wrote:
> In the unlikely event of someone needing first aid medical attention
> will there be:
> 
> * First Aid officers at the conference venue and
> * is there a First Aid station/room there?
> 
> How are delegates/organisers being advised of who and where of these
> facilities?  I searched on the EuroPython web and wiki for 'first aid'
> and nothing came up.
> 
> Keith
> ~~~~~~~

Hey Keith,

Since this is a programming conference, I think the major risk here is
going to be alcohol poisoning rather than an accident at the university
itself! In the event of an accident, it falls upon the "Disaster
Management" team, which Zeth and I have volunteered for, to handle it,
whether it be a projector dying on us to someone falling over and
breaking their leg (I really hope that doesn't happen)! Luckily, well
perhaps unluckily, for you I have first aid experience and training, so
in the event of an emergency, you have the stewards and a few other
delegates running round (I hope it's not just me) with the necessary
training to handle the situation.

Judging from Zeth's response too, there's also a safety introduction
before the conference, so I hope that this can help answer your question!
- --
Christopher Swift
http://launchpad.net/~chris

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From funthyme at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 12:31:21 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:31:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] reservation.append(0, day)
In-Reply-To: <3FE658B3-BA1D-4AC5-9E66-6D9D936CEEDF@dalkescientific.com>
References: <3FE658B3-BA1D-4AC5-9E66-6D9D936CEEDF@dalkescientific.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906270331h54b392fbma4ec2703d9e395e1@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Andrew,

2009/6/27 Andrew Dalke <dalke at dalkescientific.com>

> Hi!
>
>  I had hoped to stay with a friend on Sunday evening but that fell threw. I
> already have reservations starting Monday evening. What do I need to do to
> add an extra day at the start of that reservation?
>
>  I figure that the hotel won't be as full then, so a room is still
> possible. But otherwise - anyone have space available for that night?


This shouldn't be a problem. I'll try to get it sorted later today, and I
will let you know if there is a problem.

Best wishes,

John
--


>
>                                Andrew
>                                dalke at dalkescientific.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From nick-europython at nickpiper.co.uk  Sat Jun 27 12:42:35 2009
From: nick-europython at nickpiper.co.uk (Nicholas Piper)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:42:35 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <f909bf50906261521i75e8e52fre2343bcd44fe9ef6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<f909bf50906261521i75e8e52fre2343bcd44fe9ef6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090627104235.GC23320@zanu.org.uk>

Tom and Wiktor,

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Tom Adams wrote:

> > Could you share some information about vegan friendly places near venue?

> The only place I know of is The Warehouse Cafe (
> http://www.thewarehousecafe.com/ ). They do really nice food.

I'll be going here at least a couple of times - maybe you'd like to
join me? I don't know which nights yet.

 Nick

From tom at holizz.com  Sat Jun 27 13:04:38 2009
From: tom at holizz.com (Tom Adams)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:04:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <20090627102518.GA23320@zanu.org.uk>
References: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<f909bf50906261521i75e8e52fre2343bcd44fe9ef6@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090627102518.GA23320@zanu.org.uk>
Message-ID: <f909bf50906270404i3c8aefc7w6d4f4af84c7be343@mail.gmail.com>

> I'll be going here at least a couple of times - maybe you'd like to
> join me? I don't know which nights yet.

Love to. I'll only be there for the conference proper so I'll probably
be going Tuesday evening and Thursday before I catch the train home.

Tom

From steve at holdenweb.com  Sat Jun 27 13:15:05 2009
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:15:05 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] reservation.append(0, day)
In-Reply-To: <3FE658B3-BA1D-4AC5-9E66-6D9D936CEEDF@dalkescientific.com>
References: <3FE658B3-BA1D-4AC5-9E66-6D9D936CEEDF@dalkescientific.com>
Message-ID: <4A45FF39.70503@holdenweb.com>

Andrew Dalke wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>   I had hoped to stay with a friend on Sunday evening but that fell
> threw. I already have reservations starting Monday evening. What do I
> need to do to add an extra day at the start of that reservation?
> 
>  I figure that the hotel won't be as full then, so a room is still
> possible. But otherwise - anyone have space available for that night?
> 
Shouldn't that be reservation.insert(0, day)?

regards
 Steve
-- 
Steve Holden           +1 571 484 6266   +1 800 494 3119
Holden Web LLC                 http://www.holdenweb.com/
Watch PyCon on video now!          http://pycon.blip.tv/


From nick-europython at nickpiper.co.uk  Sat Jun 27 13:47:47 2009
From: nick-europython at nickpiper.co.uk (Nicholas Piper)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:47:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <f909bf50906270404i3c8aefc7w6d4f4af84c7be343@mail.gmail.com>
References: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<f909bf50906261521i75e8e52fre2343bcd44fe9ef6@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090627102518.GA23320@zanu.org.uk>
	<f909bf50906270404i3c8aefc7w6d4f4af84c7be343@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090627114747.GD23320@zanu.org.uk>

Tom,

On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, Tom Adams wrote:

> > I'll be going here at least a couple of times - maybe you'd like to
> > join me? I don't know which nights yet.
> 
> Love to. I'll only be there for the conference proper so I'll probably
> be going Tuesday evening and Thursday before I catch the train home.

I added this to http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials for 7:30pm on
Tuesday. I took the liberty of putting down your name already.

 Nick

From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Sat Jun 27 13:45:54 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:45:54 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
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On 6/26/09, Zeth <theology at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2009/6/26 Arnoldas Grigutis <arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com>:
>
> > Hi everyone!
>  > What about wireless internet connection at the venue?
>
>
> Yes the wonderful Quentin has organised wireless in the venue.
>
>
>  > Is wifi free in Etap Hotel?
>
>
> I don't think so,

 ?3 for 2 hours downstairs, wifi available through hotel, not free,
but if you can get DNS out then nstx might be an option :)

 i have a 3G USB modem (?15 / 1gb) they're ?39 from any vodafone shop
(comes with 1gb already on it).

 yes they work with linux - they're just recognised as a usb serial
modem.  i have the configs etc. already set up.  i'm also using
rproxy, ziproxy, privoxy _and_ polipo to reduce network traffic
drastically, so that ?15 goes a long way.

l.

From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Sat Jun 27 13:48:02 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:48:02 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
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>  1) what you really need is probably just a working intranet.  Some
>  laptops can be used as wifi access points, if one of the participants
>  can provide this you should be good.  Alternatively there exists light
>  weight "travel routers", though maybe it's a bit short time now to
>  search for such a thing.

 i brought my netgear router with me, as well, i figured that some of
the people in the tutorial might not be able to get thingywotsit
installed in time.  all the software.

l.

From funthyme at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 14:03:02 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:03:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Twin Rooms at the Premier Inn
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906270503l5aacc47dyd9ce826686ab0315@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Some people staying at the Premier Inn may be unhappy that they do not get a
twin room. Unfortunately, we do not know if you intended to share when you
booked a room, so now if you wish to share you may get a double room.

I've asked the hotel to give this message from me:

"""
I'm sorry if you have not got a twin room. You booked a room in your name
and that has been reserved and paid for you by EuroPython 2009. The Premier
Inn, like most hotels, have both twin and double rooms. If you asked me to
reserve a twin room for you, I will have done this. If not the Premier Inn
will have done their best to help you, but the hotel is full and probably
can't help by reallocating rooms.

Please do not blame the hotel for this: they are doing their best in
difficult circumstances. Do not give them a hard time! If you talk to other
delegates they may be able to swap rooms with you so that every one is
happy.
"""

best wishes,

John
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From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Sat Jun 27 14:03:52 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 12:03:52 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] walking directions from etap to tutorials (music
	centre)
Message-ID: <ced5f0f60906270503w6c7b709fk38d5f5848849a69e@mail.gmail.com>

ok, i scouted out the location, it's basically keep going straight for
1km along the A38, but, this is what to look out for:
* looking down hill, big main road in front of you, go left along it,
go past underpass entrance (don't cross main road).
* 400m or so, note fork in big main road and keep walking.
* 200m or so, come to big roundabout, with what looks like a church
spire in middle.  you're going straight over.  most people in
birmingham seem not to use the underpass, but if you don't like
playing chicken with traffic, do consider it.
* once crossed over, note corner shop on right hand side of road.
* 200m or so, go down to street level (A38 is above you) and go back
up the other side.
* note lots of tired-looking shops on right
* 150m or so, note right across left hand side of big road, a hotel (i
forget name) and turn next right.
* the town hall (which has big greek style columns on it) is 100m in
front of you, but cross road (left) at wait point after only 40m
* look up: the music conference thing is right in front of you, you
should see some scaffolding - that's the music building.
* look for some steps next to the night club, go through the shopping
arcade, look for stairs going up, entrance is right at top of stairs.
l.

From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 14:12:30 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:12:30 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Test room for speakers?
Message-ID: <14e7a2380906270512j7e210eb2q61acd68974c13f6e@mail.gmail.com>

Will there be a room where I can make sure my setup works with a projector,
just to double check and do a dry run? Thanks.

-- Bruce Eckel
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From theology at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 14:33:54 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:33:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Test room for speakers?
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2009/6/27 Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel at gmail.com>:
> Will there be a room where I can make sure my setup works with a projector,
> just to double check and do a dry run? Thanks.

What we normally do is get each speaker to test their machine with the
exact projector they are going to use in a break or before/after the
conference day in the actual room.

Is that of help?

Best Wishes,
Zeth

From funthyme at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 14:39:49 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:39:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Test room for speakers?
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Hello Bruce,

2009/6/27 Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel at gmail.com>

> Will there be a room where I can make sure my setup works with a projector,
> just to double check and do a dry run?


You're first on on Wednesday morning, so you can test with the project in
the room beforehand. You could test the day before with a spare projector we
will have, but the one in the main Adrian Boult Hall is quite a different
beast.

You can assume that all the projectors will handle a 1024x768 image, some
may do better but that is not quaranteed.

Best wishes,

John
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 14:44:21 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:44:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] walking directions from etap to tutorials (music
	centre)
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hI,

Luke has told you to go to the wrong entrance! The entrance you want is to
the Adrian Boult Hall, and is up the ramp from where he's told you and turn
left.

Also there are directions on the website at
http://www.europython.eu/about/travel/

John
--


2009/6/27 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <luke.leighton at googlemail.com>

> ok, i scouted out the location, it's basically keep going straight for
> 1km along the A38, but, this is what to look out for:
> * looking down hill, big main road in front of you, go left along it,
> go past underpass entrance (don't cross main road).
> * 400m or so, note fork in big main road and keep walking.
> * 200m or so, come to big roundabout, with what looks like a church
> spire in middle.  you're going straight over.  most people in
> birmingham seem not to use the underpass, but if you don't like
> playing chicken with traffic, do consider it.
> * once crossed over, note corner shop on right hand side of road.
> * 200m or so, go down to street level (A38 is above you) and go back
> up the other side.
> * note lots of tired-looking shops on right
> * 150m or so, note right across left hand side of big road, a hotel (i
> forget name) and turn next right.
> * the town hall (which has big greek style columns on it) is 100m in
> front of you, but cross road (left) at wait point after only 40m
> * look up: the music conference thing is right in front of you, you
> should see some scaffolding - that's the music building.
> * look for some steps next to the night club, go through the shopping
> arcade, look for stairs going up, entrance is right at top of stairs.
> l.
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 14:44:36 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:44:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Test room for speakers?
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Sounds great, especially working with the actual projector. Thanks.



-- Bruce Eckel



On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Zeth <theology at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/6/27 Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel at gmail.com>:
> > Will there be a room where I can make sure my setup works with a
> projector,
> > just to double check and do a dry run? Thanks.
>
> What we normally do is get each speaker to test their machine with the
> exact projector they are going to use in a break or before/after the
> conference day in the actual room.
>
> Is that of help?
>
> Best Wishes,
> Zeth
>
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From sorin.sbarnea at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 15:11:29 2009
From: sorin.sbarnea at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Sorin_Sb=C3=A2rnea?=)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:11:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] saturday restaurant rezervation
Message-ID: <40CD1F3E-1200-4AA2-8413-A7FA971EC12A@gmail.com>

can someone add viktor to the rezervation page (socials) - I cannot do  
it from the iPhone

/sorin

From dalke at dalkescientific.com  Sat Jun 27 15:49:46 2009
From: dalke at dalkescientific.com (Andrew Dalke)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 07:49:46 -0600
Subject: [EuroPython] reservation.append(0, day)
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On Jun 27, 2009, at 5:15 AM, Steve Holden wrote:
> Shouldn't that be reservation.insert(0, day)?

Sadly, yes. This shows that after being up for 20 hours straight I  
could no longer think straight. Glad I straightened that up, else I  
might have been in dire straits.



				Andrew
				dalke at dalkescientific.com



From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Sat Jun 27 15:57:10 2009
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 13:57:10 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] walking directions from etap to tutorials (music
	centre)
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On 6/27/09, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:
> hI,
>
> Luke has told you to go to the wrong entrance! The entrance you want is to
> the Adrian Boult Hall,

 ahh, i missed that bit :)

From q at clocksoft.com  Sat Jun 27 17:44:19 2009
From: q at clocksoft.com (Quentin Wright)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 16:44:19 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
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Tobias Brox wrote:
> 2009/6/26 Geoff Bache <geoff.bache at gmail.com>:
>   
>> I'd really appreciate knowing as soon as possible whether wireless
>> will be available
>> in my tutorial (TextTest, in the CBSO on Sunday afternoon). I'd rather
>> planned on
>> participants being able to read online documentation, and there's always
>> people who haven't installed the software beforehand as well...
>>     
>
> In my experience, it can be quite useful and not so difficult to
> arrange some backup plans:
>
> 1) what you really need is probably just a working intranet.  Some
> laptops can be used as wifi access points, if one of the participants
> can provide this you should be good.  Alternatively there exists light
> weight "travel routers", though maybe it's a bit short time now to
> search for such a thing.  Alternatively, "ordinary" access points are
> cheap and can be borrowed or bought anywhere and should serve you
> well.
>
> 2) GPRS/UMTS works almost anywhere.  It should be sufficient that one
> of the participants have a cheap UK subscription and the possibility
> to use it from his own laptop or share it out.
>   
We do have extra laptops, access points and some 3G cards. Possibly
don't have the time to set things like a proxy server up.

Q


From q at clocksoft.com  Sat Jun 27 18:00:37 2009
From: q at clocksoft.com (Quentin Wright)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:00:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] wireless
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Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
>>  1) what you really need is probably just a working intranet.  Some
>>  laptops can be used as wifi access points, if one of the participants
>>  can provide this you should be good.  Alternatively there exists light
>>  weight "travel routers", though maybe it's a bit short time now to
>>  search for such a thing.
>>     
>
>  i brought my netgear router with me, as well, i figured that some of
> the people in the tutorial might not be able to get thingywotsit
> installed in time.  all the software.
>
> l.
>   
Well done Luke! The wireless will be fine in your tutorial room. We will
have to check out your wired connection so that you can plug your
Netgear in.

Q


From cfbolz at gmx.de  Sat Jun 27 18:06:15 2009
From: cfbolz at gmx.de (Carl Friedrich Bolz)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:06:15 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <20090627104235.GC23320@zanu.org.uk>
References: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>	<f909bf50906261521i75e8e52fre2343bcd44fe9ef6@mail.gmail.com>
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Nicholas Piper wrote:
> Tom and Wiktor,
> 
> On Fri, 26 Jun 2009, Tom Adams wrote:
> 
>>> Could you share some information about vegan friendly places near venue?
> 
>> The only place I know of is The Warehouse Cafe (
>> http://www.thewarehousecafe.com/ ). They do really nice food.
> 
> I'll be going here at least a couple of times - maybe you'd like to
> join me? I don't know which nights yet.

Hey!

I will very likely join you on Tuesday and would be interested in going 
somewhere vegan-friendly as well on Thursday.

Cheers,

Carl Friedrich Bolz

From martin at sourceguru.net  Sat Jun 27 18:12:07 2009
From: martin at sourceguru.net (Martin Meredith)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:12:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, 2009-06-26 at 23:09 +0100, Wiktor Idzikowski wrote:
> Hello,
> Could you share some information about vegan friendly places near venue?

Cafe Soya (http://www.cafesoya.co.uk/page3.html ) is quite good, I went
there earlier with a friend of mine (Well, the "sister branch" as it put
it.

Quite a nice lunchtime deal too :D


From steve at holdenweb.com  Sat Jun 27 20:23:17 2009
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:23:17 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] The PSF and EuroPython
Message-ID: <4A466395.5000301@holdenweb.com>

Hi, all.

I will be attending EuroPython this coming week, and am keen to talk to
you all about the role of the Python Software Foundation. Please feel
free to buttonhole me to ask questions and/or present ideas.

The Foundation is intended to serve the international Python community,
and outside the USA EuroPython is both the largest and the most diverse
gathering of Pythonistas. So I will be interested to hear what you all
have to say.

regards
 Steve
-- 
Steve Holden           +1 571 484 6266   +1 800 494 3119
Holden Web LLC                 http://www.holdenweb.com/
Watch PyCon on video now!          http://pycon.blip.tv/


From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Sat Jun 27 22:10:24 2009
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:10:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Choosing tutorials
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906240524n122f9461i7389afdddabea5bd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A4127F0.70404@sschwarzer.net>	
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John Pinner wrote:
> 
> yes, some of us seem to have forgotten that EP is community run. If you 
> see something you don't like, it's because you didn't do something, so 
> you *can* put it right.

How would the someone have gone about helping in this case?
I haven't seen much exposure of how the booking system is developed for 
any europython, and I don't know who decides how things are billed, 
where that's ratified and how that turns into what's implemented in 
whatever web app is used...

Chris

-- 
Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting
            - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

From arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com  Sat Jun 27 23:54:57 2009
From: arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com (Arnoldas Grigutis)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:54:57 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] Pyjamas soft on windows
Message-ID: <fd5a55150906271454h2727d29bt75d7c3742d050df0@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone tried to install the stuff for Pyjamas on windows?
http://wiki.europython.eu/PyjamasTutorial
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From john.cobo at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 00:13:53 2009
From: john.cobo at gmail.com (John Cobo)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 18:13:53 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] Pyjamas soft on windows
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Message-ID: <38e06bad0906271513k5293eaddyfb7300b49ef765bb@mail.gmail.com>

No, but I am working on using Pyjamas for the tutorial with web2py.  If I
get it working (and it will) then using pyjamas and web2py on window should
be no problem.  This is my starting point >>
   http://mdp.cti.depaul.edu/appliances/default/show/45

John C.

2009/6/27 Arnoldas Grigutis <arnoldas.grigutis at gmail.com>

> Has anyone tried to install the stuff for Pyjamas on windows?
> http://wiki.europython.eu/PyjamasTutorial
> _______________________________________________
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> EuroPython at python.org
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From theology at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 00:51:41 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:51:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Choosing tutorials
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2009/6/27 Chris Withers <chris at simplistix.co.uk>:
> John Pinner wrote:
>>
>> yes, some of us seem to have forgotten that EP is community run. If you
>> see something you don't like, it's because you didn't do something, so you
>> *can* put it right.
>
> How would the someone have gone about helping in this case?
> I haven't seen much exposure of how the booking system is developed for any
> europython, and I don't know who decides how things are billed, where that's
> ratified and how that turns into what's implemented in whatever web app is
> used...

Where is your badge ;)

Well firstly, it was all explained in Vilnius in 2008 and at
Birmingham 2008. However, if anyone has any trouble in volunteering,
please email/talk/IRC me ASAP.

See you at EuroPython buddy.

Best Wishes,
Zeth

From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 00:53:11 2009
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:53:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Choosing tutorials
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906271551j743988cakb5525faebc3602fc@mail.gmail.com>
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Zeth wrote:
> Well firstly, it was all explained in Vilnius in 2008 and at
> Birmingham 2008. 

No doubt at talks/sessions I wasn't at...

Unfortunately, if you want help from people on things like WebApp 
development, then you need to make those processes a lot more 
transparent and accessible...

Chris

-- 
Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting
            - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

From theology at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 00:53:46 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:53:46 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Choosing tutorials
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2009/6/27 Chris Withers <chris at simplistix.co.uk>:
> Zeth wrote:
>>
>> Well firstly, it was all explained in Vilnius in 2008 and at
>> Birmingham 2008.
>
> No doubt at talks/sessions I wasn't at...
>
> Unfortunately, if you want help from people on things like WebApp
> development, then you need to make those processes a lot more transparent
> and accessible...

You are now elected community participation officer! Congratulations!

From chris at simplistix.co.uk  Sun Jun 28 00:55:13 2009
From: chris at simplistix.co.uk (Chris Withers)
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 23:55:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Choosing tutorials
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906271553y15cbd095gf3337e6180bd6e71@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4A4127F0.70404@sschwarzer.net>	
	<b1f5d7040906231512i7b957030mfef4fbc206986e07@mail.gmail.com>	
	<4A41E198.5030406@simplistix.co.uk>	
	<b1f5d7040906240419m190c5fb3y2febae1851d9946f@mail.gmail.com>	
	<ff8a32f0906240524n122f9461i7389afdddabea5bd@mail.gmail.com>	
	<4A467CB0.70503@simplistix.co.uk>	
	<b1f5d7040906271551j743988cakb5525faebc3602fc@mail.gmail.com>	
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Zeth wrote:
> You are now elected community participation officer! Congratulations!

You really want me, of all people, dealing with community relations? ;-)

Chris

-- 
Simplistix - Content Management, Zope & Python Consulting
            - http://www.simplistix.co.uk

From martin at sourceguru.net  Sun Jun 28 18:55:22 2009
From: martin at sourceguru.net (Martin Meredith)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:55:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Session Chair - Tuesday - 10:30
Message-ID: <1246208122.23176.5.camel@lazy.suurceguru.net>

Hi guys.

I'm probably not going to be able to make it in on Tuesday till just
after 10... so I'm not going to be able to Session Chair for the 10 -
10:30 Session.

I've lost my wallet, and am going to have to wait for the bank to open
before I can haul ass into town.

Is anyone able to cover this for me?


From kitblake at infrae.com  Sun Jun 28 19:02:20 2009
From: kitblake at infrae.com (Kit BLAKE)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:02:20 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <425e93af0906251257h56c2c094x41e334c16365f969@mail.gmail.com>
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On 25 Jun 2009, at 21:57, Alex Willmer wrote:
>
> There is a quite good fish and chip take away at the top of  
> Corporation Street:
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.483124&mlon=-1.893478&zoom=18&layers=B000FTF

Could some Brumian recommend a decent restaurant for English food?  
Nothing Indian, Moroccan, or colonial but good old local fare. We'd  
like to sample a classic menu and wash it down with local beer.

Kit

-- 
Kit BLAKE ? Infrae ? http://infrae.com/ + 31 10 243 7051


From alex at moreati.org.uk  Sun Jun 28 20:10:17 2009
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 19:10:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <B6AF7F2D-8723-4ECC-83DD-F4DD32A508B4@infrae.com>
References: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
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2009/6/28 Kit BLAKE <kitblake at infrae.com>

> Could some Brumian recommend a decent restaurant for English food? Nothing
> Indian, Moroccan, or colonial but good old local fare. We'd like to sample a
> classic menu and wash it down with local beer.


Kit,


There is a good selection of eaterys on Brindley Place, near the
conservatoire (EP venue). The Brass House is there, just on the main road
and I believe they do real ale and british food.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.47684&mlon=-1.91237&zoom=17
-- 
Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk>
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From martin at sourceguru.net  Sun Jun 28 21:20:41 2009
From: martin at sourceguru.net (Martin Meredith)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:20:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <B6AF7F2D-8723-4ECC-83DD-F4DD32A508B4@infrae.com>
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On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 19:02 +0200, Kit BLAKE wrote:
> On 25 Jun 2009, at 21:57, Alex Willmer wrote:
> >
> > There is a quite good fish and chip take away at the top of  
> > Corporation Street:
> >
> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.483124&mlon=-1.893478&zoom=18&layers=B000FTF
> 
> Could some Brumian recommend a decent restaurant for English food?  
> Nothing Indian, Moroccan, or colonial but good old local fare. We'd  
> like to sample a classic menu and wash it down with local beer.

Your best bet is to find any Wetherspoons pub.


From funthyme at gmail.com  Sun Jun 28 22:52:07 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:52:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Food in Birmingham
In-Reply-To: <B6AF7F2D-8723-4ECC-83DD-F4DD32A508B4@infrae.com>
References: <4A428AC2.9000604@linux.com>
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Hi,

2009/6/28 Kit BLAKE <kitblake at infrae.com>

> On 25 Jun 2009, at 21:57, Alex Willmer wrote:
>
>>
>> There is a quite good fish and chip take away at the top of Corporation
>> Street:
>>
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=52.483124&mlon=-1.893478&zoom=18&layers=B000FTF
>>
>
> Could some Brumian


The correct term is Brummy. I'm not a Brummy, being from Cornwall, but I've
lived here for 43 years and like the place.


> recommend a decent restaurant for English food? Nothing Indian, Moroccan,
> or colonial but good old local fare. We'd like to sample a classic menu and
> wash it down with local beer.


I'm not sure why you don't look at the EP website ;-) That's why we did it.

http://europython.eu/about/eatingout/

Try either of the pub recommendations: The Black Eagle or The Bull. They are
both pub/restaurants. The Bull is more of a pub, the Black Eagle more of a
restaurant. Both serve proper beer.

If you go to the Bull, tell the landlady Rose that I sent you.

Another possibility is The Bucklemaker, 30 Mary Ann Street, St Paul's
Square, Birmingham B3 1RL, http://www.bucklemaker.co.uk which may be a bit
too internationalised for you.

Best wishes,

John
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From bigfishinnet at googlemail.com  Mon Jun 29 10:54:52 2009
From: bigfishinnet at googlemail.com (Stephen Welch)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:54:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Provision for cyclists?
Message-ID: <b36970430906290154t483e5b8ei3b7c83ef7659a871@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all, I would like to cycle in to the conference on Tuesday - Wed -
Thurs  does anyone know if there are are any provision for locking
your bike up outside the Conservatoire or even better somewhere
inside?  Also I dont suppose there are any showers I could use failing
that I can just have a flannel wash in the sink somewhere.

Look fwd to it.

Cheers

Stephen

From cp07 at 3112.org  Mon Jun 29 12:20:50 2009
From: cp07 at 3112.org (Werner Wiethege)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:20:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Provision for cyclists?
In-Reply-To: <b36970430906290154t483e5b8ei3b7c83ef7659a871@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b36970430906290154t483e5b8ei3b7c83ef7659a871@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20090629102050.GA32278@taffimai.vm.bytemark.co.uk>

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009, Stephen Welch <bigfishinnet at googlemail.com> wrote

> Hi all, I would like to cycle in to the conference on Tuesday - Wed -
> Thurs  does anyone know if there are are any provision for locking
> your bike up outside the Conservatoire

Five racks directly outside the entrance with lots of free space.

> or even better somewhere
> inside?  Also I dont suppose there are any showers I could use failing
> that I can just have a flannel wash in the sink somewhere.
> 

ww

From matth at netsight.co.uk  Mon Jun 29 12:39:54 2009
From: matth at netsight.co.uk (Matt Hamilton)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:39:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Plone stand volunteers
Message-ID: <F8ECCAB1-E308-42F2-A59D-951D7D1A8521@netsight.co.uk>

Hi All,
   The Plone Foundation are planning a small Plone booth/table/stand  
at Europython.  I have to put my hand up and say I've not really had  
time to organise a huge amount for this in time, but we will at least  
have some demos there if people are interested in stopping by to learn  
more about Plone (and Zope).

We need some volunteers though.  If anyone is interested in taking a  
bit of time on rotation manning the table and showing people demos of  
Plone stuff then let me know.

-Matt

-- 
Matt Hamilton                                       matth at netsight.co.uk
Netsight Internet Solutions, Ltd.           Understand. Develop. Deliver
http://www.netsight.co.uk                             +44 (0)117 9090901
Web Design | Zope/Plone Development & Consulting | Co-location | Hosting


From alex at moreati.org.uk  Mon Jun 29 12:39:00 2009
From: alex at moreati.org.uk (Alex Willmer)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:39:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Provision for cyclists?
In-Reply-To: <b36970430906290154t483e5b8ei3b7c83ef7659a871@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b36970430906290154t483e5b8ei3b7c83ef7659a871@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <425e93af0906290339u5cfe0e2bqd5f87f69515d4b45@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/29 Stephen Welch <bigfishinnet at googlemail.com>

> Hi all, I would like to cycle in to the conference on Tuesday - Wed -
> Thurs  does anyone know if there are are any provision for locking
> your bike up outside the Conservatoire or even better somewhere
> inside?


There are bike racks outside the venue, look left after passing McDonalds.
The racks are passed the scaffold, by reception.


> Also I dont suppose there are any showers I could use failing
> that I can just have a flannel wash in the sink somewhere.
>

There are no showers I'm afraid.

alex



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From sparks.m at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 14:02:40 2009
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:02:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Kamaelia Tutorial Materials
Message-ID: <20e5c9660906290502q2892c8fbi29bb94f551e7ca7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,


For convenience I've uploaded a specialised distribution of Kamaelia here:

   * http://www.kamaelia.org/release/Kamaelia-Europython09-1.0.0.tar.gz

This includes:
   * Kamaelia & Axon (both installed using a single setup.py file)
   * All the small files I used in the talk

The slides we went through are up on slideshare now here:
   * http://www.slideshare.net/kamaelian/kamaelia-europython-tutorial

The notes/booklet is available here:
   * http://www.lulu.com/content/paperback-book/kamaelia-pragmatic-concurrency/7302222

The PDF is there as you'd expect. If you want an extra paper version,
or you didn't go to the tutorial and you'd like a paper version,
lulu.com do print on demand. (The cost is zero revenue to me, but also
zero cost to me :-) Postage is a bit pricey on the buyer though :/ :-)

Please let me know if you spot any typos. (Seperately has been pointed out
BTW, I seem to have a blind spot for that :)

Any questions, please collar me :)

Regards,


Michael.
-- 
http://yeoldeclue.com/blog
http://twitter.com/kamaelian
http://www.kamaelia.org/Home

From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 16:53:32 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:53:32 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn
Message-ID: <14e7a2380906290753g424cd381p798019c257bc5d0f@mail.gmail.com>

I just checked into the Premier Inn (which is nice). They were concerned
that we seem to only have one-day-at-a-time reservations, which apparently
could be a problem if they have to handle everyone's reservation like they
do mine, by making multiple bookings or something. Perhaps the conference
person managing the Premier Inn could give them a call?

-- Bruce Eckel
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From lac at openend.se  Mon Jun 29 17:14:56 2009
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:14:56 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn
In-Reply-To: Message from Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel@gmail.com> of "Mon,
	29 Jun 2009 15:53:32 BST."
	<14e7a2380906290753g424cd381p798019c257bc5d0f@mail.gmail.com> 
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Message-ID: <200906291514.n5TFEu1G010684@theraft.openend.se>

Thanks Bruce.  Somebody at the Premier Inn is confused.  They do
have the informaiton for the multiple day bookings -- and John has
been in touch  with them every day this week, but I guess this
means that he will have to talk with them again today as well.

Thank you for reporting this.

Laura

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From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Mon Jun 29 17:17:04 2009
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:17:04 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Real Ale Pubs
Message-ID: <op.uwakqqez5mynk9@fuchsia.local>

Where's the nearest Real Ale pub to the conference?

Charlie

From theology at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 17:17:24 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:17:24 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn
In-Reply-To: <200906291514.n5TFEu1G010684@theraft.openend.se>
References: <bruceteckel@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906290817l1bdb3031h9c4b79283599ff9c@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/29 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>:
> Thanks Bruce. ?Somebody at the Premier Inn is confused. ?They do
> have the informaiton for the multiple day bookings -- and John has
> been in touch ?with them every day this week, but I guess this
> means that he will have to talk with them again today as well.

Yeah, as Laura said there is usually only the manager or conference
specialist that is riding on the cluetrain, the other staff are still
at the station.

From theology at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 17:18:57 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:18:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Real Ale Pubs
In-Reply-To: <op.uwakqqez5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
References: <op.uwakqqez5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
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2009/6/29 Charlie Clark <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>:
> Where's the nearest Real Ale pub to the conference?

The Wellington: http://www.thewellingtonrealale.co.uk/

But most places we go should have something drinkable. At Python West
Midlands we are raving real ale fans :-)

From tobixen at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 17:24:32 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:24:32 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Real Ale Pubs
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Do they have free wifi in The Wellington?

2009/6/29 Zeth <theology at gmail.com>:
> 2009/6/29 Charlie Clark <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>:
>> Where's the nearest Real Ale pub to the conference?
>
> The Wellington: http://www.thewellingtonrealale.co.uk/
>
> But most places we go should have something drinkable. At Python West
> Midlands we are raving real ale fans :-)
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From tartley at tartley.com  Mon Jun 29 17:26:41 2009
From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:26:41 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Real Ale Pubs
In-Reply-To: <21414356.1246289122438.JavaMail.root@n17>
References: <op.uwakqqez5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
	<21414356.1246289122438.JavaMail.root@n17>
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Beer in the evening is a good site for finding pubs in England that 
match your personal criteria:
http://www.beerintheevening.com/pubs/results.shtml?l=B3+3HG


Zeth wrote:
> 2009/6/29 Charlie Clark <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>:
>> Where's the nearest Real Ale pub to the conference?
> 
> The Wellington: http://www.thewellingtonrealale.co.uk/
> 
> But most places we go should have something drinkable. At Python West
> Midlands we are raving real ale fans :-)
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 

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From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Mon Jun 29 17:27:12 2009
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:27:12 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Real Ale Pubs
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906290824t616f0cfatc73f84f0303d746@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.uwakqqez5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
	<b1f5d7040906290818l7f894fd7m4082b772b81718b3@mail.gmail.com>
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Am 29.06.2009, 17:24 Uhr, schrieb Tobias Brox <tobixen at gmail.com>:

> Do they have free wifi in The Wellington?

What really matters is the menu:


1 Wye Valley HPA 4%
2                 <- the invisible beer
3 Falstaff Indus 4.1%
4 Milestone Light House Bitter 4.8%
5 Purity Mad Goose 4.2%
6 Hook Norton Old Hooky 4.6%
7 Burton Bridge Dover Dynamo 4.5%
8 R.C.H. Old Slug Porter 4.5%
9 Wolf Prairie 5%
10 Wheal Maiden Ginger Beer 5.5%
11 Thorne Best Bitter 3.9%
12 Wem All Seasons 4.2%
13 Warwickshire Market Ale 4.9%
14 Harwich Town Bathside Bitter 4.2%
15 Purity UBU 4.5%
16 Purity Pure Gold 3.8%

From tobixen at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 17:30:31 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:30:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Real Ale Pubs
In-Reply-To: <op.uwak7mjf5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
References: <op.uwakqqez5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
	<b1f5d7040906290818l7f894fd7m4082b772b81718b3@mail.gmail.com>
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2009/6/29 Charlie Clark <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>:
>> Do they have free wifi in The Wellington?
>
> What really matters is the menu:

I disagree.  Wifi first, menu later.  Internet connectivity is
important, if nothing else then for writing on the IRC channel: "we're
at The Wellington now, they have lots of good ales, please come!" ;-)

From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Mon Jun 29 17:33:52 2009
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:33:52 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Real Ale Pubs
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906290830vec5ab6bj569a4a1e29bc6adc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.uwakqqez5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
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Am 29.06.2009, 17:30 Uhr, schrieb Tobias Brox <tobixen at gmail.com>:

> I disagree.  Wifi first, menu later.  Internet connectivity is
> important, if nothing else then for writing on the IRC channel: "we're
> at The Wellington now, they have lots of good ales, please come!"

You haven't spelt much time in real ale pubs have you? That could cause  
muttering or even tutting from the corduroy-swathed locals. Reckon I'll be  
heading off there around 19:30 BST.

Charlie
-- 
Charlie Clark
Managing Director
Clark Consulting & Research Ltd.
German Office
Helmholtzstr. 20
D?sseldorf
D- 40215
Tel: +49-211-600-3657
GSM: +49-178-782-6226
Company No. 06770088

From tobixen at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 17:41:36 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:41:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Real Ale Pubs
In-Reply-To: <op.uwaliqp35mynk9@fuchsia.local>
References: <op.uwakqqez5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
	<b1f5d7040906290818l7f894fd7m4082b772b81718b3@mail.gmail.com>
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	<op.uwaliqp35mynk9@fuchsia.local>
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2009/6/29 Charlie Clark <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>:
> You haven't spelt much time in real ale pubs have you? That could cause
> muttering or even tutting from the corduroy-swathed locals. Reckon I'll be
> heading off there around 19:30 BST.

The official "social" is to go to The Australian Bar at 19:30.
However, I've updated the social wiki page at
http://wiki.europython2009.eu/Socials with information that some
people are going to The Wellingtons.

I'm not sure where I will be at 19:30 - do they have free wifi at The
Australian Bar?

From steve at holdenweb.com  Mon Jun 29 17:42:13 2009
From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:42:13 -0400
Subject: [EuroPython] Real Ale Pubs
In-Reply-To: <op.uwaliqp35mynk9@fuchsia.local>
References: <op.uwakqqez5mynk9@fuchsia.local>	<b1f5d7040906290818l7f894fd7m4082b772b81718b3@mail.gmail.com>	<ef2af3100906290824t616f0cfatc73f84f0303d746@mail.gmail.com>	<op.uwak7mjf5mynk9@fuchsia.local>	<ef2af3100906290830vec5ab6bj569a4a1e29bc6adc@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.uwaliqp35mynk9@fuchsia.local>
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Charlie Clark wrote:
> Am 29.06.2009, 17:30 Uhr, schrieb Tobias Brox <tobixen at gmail.com>:
> 
>> I disagree.  Wifi first, menu later.  Internet connectivity is
>> important, if nothing else then for writing on the IRC channel: "we're
>> at The Wellington now, they have lots of good ales, please come!"
> 
> You haven't spelt much time in real ale pubs have you? That could cause
> muttering or even tutting from the corduroy-swathed locals. Reckon I'll
> be heading off there around 19:30 BST.
> 
Besides which if the beer is good enough you'd do well to avoid putting
*anything* on the 'Net while under its influence :)

regards
 Steve
-- 
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From tobixen at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 17:45:57 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:45:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Real Ale Pubs
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906290818l7f894fd7m4082b772b81718b3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.uwakqqez5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
	<b1f5d7040906290818l7f894fd7m4082b772b81718b3@mail.gmail.com>
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2009/6/29 Zeth <theology at gmail.com>:
> 2009/6/29 Charlie Clark <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>:
>> Where's the nearest Real Ale pub to the conference?
>
> The Wellington: http://www.thewellingtonrealale.co.uk/

Lots of info about the beers there, but no address or map :-)  Google
wasn't too helpful either.  Or maybe I've just lost my grip on google.

From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 17:58:01 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:58:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn
In-Reply-To: <b1f5d7040906290817l1bdb3031h9c4b79283599ff9c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bruceteckel@gmail.com>
	<14e7a2380906290753g424cd381p798019c257bc5d0f@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906291514.n5TFEu1G010684@theraft.openend.se>
	<b1f5d7040906290817l1bdb3031h9c4b79283599ff9c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <14e7a2380906290858h68180ccavc56f35a639ef8730@mail.gmail.com>

I should have given more detail:

1) All the reservations on the Premier Inn's reservation computer are of the
one-day-at-a-time kind.

2) No names have been associated with reservations.

Apparently my reservation is now (or will be) sorted out (I had to give them
my credit card). But the desk clerk was concerned that everyone else showing
up would require the same stringing-together of reservations.

-- Bruce Eckel



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Zeth <theology at gmail.com> wrote:

> 2009/6/29 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>:
> > Thanks Bruce.  Somebody at the Premier Inn is confused.  They do
> > have the informaiton for the multiple day bookings -- and John has
> > been in touch  with them every day this week, but I guess this
> > means that he will have to talk with them again today as well.
>
> Yeah, as Laura said there is usually only the manager or conference
> specialist that is riding on the cluetrain, the other staff are still
> at the station.
>
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From tobixen at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 18:07:16 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:07:16 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn
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2009/6/29 Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel at gmail.com>:
> Apparently my reservation is now (or will be) sorted out (I had to give them
> my credit card). But the desk clerk was concerned that everyone else showing
> up would require the same stringing-together of reservations.

Hm ... I suppose quite many of us have left lots of stuff in the hotel
room and left from there in the morning without checking out, just
assuming that everything will be OK when we return ...

From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Mon Jun 29 17:47:03 2009
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:47:03 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Real Ale Pubs
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906290845h2b1b9585n63486715e4d053ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <op.uwakqqez5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
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Am 29.06.2009, 17:45 Uhr, schrieb Tobias Brox <tobixen at gmail.com>:

> 2009/6/29 Zeth <theology at gmail.com>:
>> 2009/6/29 Charlie Clark <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>:
>>> Where's the nearest Real Ale pub to the conference?
>>
>> The Wellington: http://www.thewellingtonrealale.co.uk/
>
> Lots of info about the beers there, but no address or map :-)  Google
> wasn't too helpful either.  Or maybe I've just lost my grip on google.

Not far from Victoria Square.

http://www.multimap.com/maps/#map=52.48079,-1.90042|17|4&bd=useful_information&loc=GB:52.48065:-1.90038:16|b2  
5sn|B2 5SN

Charlie
-- 
Charlie Clark
Managing Director
Clark Consulting & Research Ltd.
German Office
Helmholtzstr. 20
D?sseldorf
D- 40215
Tel: +49-211-600-3657
GSM: +49-178-782-6226
Company No. 06770088

From lac at openend.se  Mon Jun 29 18:16:17 2009
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:16:17 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn
In-Reply-To: Message from Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel@gmail.com> of "Mon,
	29 Jun 2009 16:58:01 BST."
	<14e7a2380906290858h68180ccavc56f35a639ef8730@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <bruceteckel@gmail.com>
	<14e7a2380906290753g424cd381p798019c257bc5d0f@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906291514.n5TFEu1G010684@theraft.openend.se>
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	<14e7a2380906290858h68180ccavc56f35a639ef8730@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200906291616.n5TGGHt6014537@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:58:01 BST, Bruce Eckel writes:
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>
>I should have given more detail:
>
>1) All the reservations on the Premier Inn's reservation computer are of 
>the
>one-day-at-a-time kind.

This was untrue -- my reservation, for instance, is not of that sort.

>2) No names have been associated with reservations.

This was not true, 2 nights ago the night clerk was able to pull up
reservations by name without any trouble.

>
>Apparently my reservation is now (or will be) sorted out (I had to give t
>hem
>my credit card). But the desk clerk was concerned that everyone else show
>ing
>up would require the same stringing-together of reservations.

Thjis is completely different from how things worked 2 nights ago.
Thus I suspect that either

a) somebody who is at the Premier Inn now does not know how to use their
computer system as well as the woman who was working it 2 days ago.

or b) somebody has completely wrecked our reservation, deleting all the
information that they used to have.

I will get John to speak with them, and we can provide the list to them
again, but this problem was all solved days ago, so it is annoying to
see it back again.

Thank you again for reporting this:

Laura

>
>-- Bruce Eckel
>
>
>
>On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Zeth <theology at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2009/6/29 Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se>:
>> > Thanks Bruce.  Somebody at the Premier Inn is confused.  They do
>> > have the informaiton for the multiple day bookings -- and John has
>> > been in touch  with them every day this week, but I guess this
>> > means that he will have to talk with them again today as well.
>>
>> Yeah, as Laura said there is usually only the manager or conference
>> specialist that is riding on the cluetrain, the other staff are still
>> at the station.
>>
>
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From lac at openend.se  Mon Jun 29 18:18:27 2009
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:18:27 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn
In-Reply-To: Message from Tobias Brox <tobixen@gmail.com> of "Mon,
	29 Jun 2009 17:07:16 BST."
	<ef2af3100906290907k1530b339l225d36bbb7b9ec8d@mail.gmail.com> 
References: <bruceteckel@gmail.com>
	<14e7a2380906290753g424cd381p798019c257bc5d0f@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906291514.n5TFEu1G010684@theraft.openend.se>
	<b1f5d7040906290817l1bdb3031h9c4b79283599ff9c@mail.gmail.com>
	<14e7a2380906290858h68180ccavc56f35a639ef8730@mail.gmail.com>
	<ef2af3100906290907k1530b339l225d36bbb7b9ec8d@mail.gmail.com> 
Message-ID: <200906291618.n5TGIRNA014659@theraft.openend.se>

In a message of Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:07:16 BST, Tobias Brox writes:
>2009/6/29 Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel at gmail.com>:
>> Apparently my reservation is now (or will be) sorted out (I had to give
> them
>> my credit card). But the desk clerk was concerned that everyone else sh
>owing
>> up would require the same stringing-together of reservations.
>
>Hm ... I suppose quite many of us have left lots of stuff in the hotel
>room and left from there in the morning without checking out, just
>assuming that everything will be OK when we return ...
>_______________________________________________


You do not have the sort of reservations that Bruce Eckels is reporting.
I have no idea why the current staff at the Premier Inn thinks you
do, when the ones we talked with 2 days ago knew differently, but
whatever it is we can all work it out.

Laura

From chef at ghum.de  Mon Jun 29 18:34:27 2009
From: chef at ghum.de (Harald Armin Massa)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:34:27 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] So, which Pub are you at?
Message-ID: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>



send by GHUM while mobile

From lac at openend.se  Mon Jun 29 18:43:50 2009
From: lac at openend.se (Laura Creighton)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:43:50 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn
In-Reply-To: Message from Laura Creighton <lac@openend.se> of "Mon,
	29 Jun 2009 18:16:17 +0200."
	<200906291616.n5TGGHt6014537@theraft.openend.se> 
References: <bruceteckel@gmail.com>
	<14e7a2380906290753g424cd381p798019c257bc5d0f@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906291514.n5TFEu1G010684@theraft.openend.se>
	<b1f5d7040906290817l1bdb3031h9c4b79283599ff9c@mail.gmail.com>
	<14e7a2380906290858h68180ccavc56f35a639ef8730@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906291616.n5TGGHt6014537@theraft.openend.se> 
Message-ID: <200906291643.n5TGhoTp016607@theraft.openend.se>

John phoned the Premier Inn.  The woman who is there now can find
your reservation by name, and knows how to find out how many days
it is for.  So everybody can stop worrying now.

Laura

From tobixen at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 19:45:07 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:45:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] So, which Pub are you at?
In-Reply-To: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>
References: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>
Message-ID: <ef2af3100906291045i4791c895n325848b12c5eb165@mail.gmail.com>

None yet (personally), but the official plan is to be at The
Australian Bar at 19:30.  I think I will be there around 19:45.

The non-official plan is to go to The Wellingtons nearby Victoria
square instead.

I'm not sure if any of those have wi-fi, but if you go to any of them
you will most likely find fellow europythoners

From mikeal.rogers at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 19:53:05 2009
From: mikeal.rogers at gmail.com (Mikeal Rogers)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:53:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] So, which Pub are you at?
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906291045i4791c895n325848b12c5eb165@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>
	<ef2af3100906291045i4791c895n325848b12c5eb165@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54972788-EDDD-4643-9532-3C3D3D4C8908@gmail.com>

I'm at the wellington with wireless and a pint secured! Come on over.

-Mikeal
mikeal.rogers at gmail.com
mikeal at mozilla.com
http://www.mikealrogers.com

On Jun 29, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Tobias Brox <tobixen at gmail.com> wrote:

> None yet (personally), but the official plan is to be at The
> Australian Bar at 19:30.  I think I will be there around 19:45.
>
> The non-official plan is to go to The Wellingtons nearby Victoria
> square instead.
>
> I'm not sure if any of those have wi-fi, but if you go to any of them
> you will most likely find fellow europythoners
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

From tobixen at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 20:06:13 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:06:13 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] So, which Pub are you at?
In-Reply-To: <54972788-EDDD-4643-9532-3C3D3D4C8908@gmail.com>
References: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>
	<ef2af3100906291045i4791c895n325848b12c5eb165@mail.gmail.com>
	<54972788-EDDD-4643-9532-3C3D3D4C8908@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef2af3100906291106h6a48d239i57d346e83cf76ce@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/29 Mikeal Rogers <mikeal.rogers at gmail.com>:
> I'm at the wellington with wireless and a pint secured! Come on over.

Not in this rain ... a bit later maybe

From tobixen at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 20:07:03 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:07:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] So, which Pub are you at?
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906291106h6a48d239i57d346e83cf76ce@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>
	<ef2af3100906291045i4791c895n325848b12c5eb165@mail.gmail.com>
	<54972788-EDDD-4643-9532-3C3D3D4C8908@gmail.com>
	<ef2af3100906291106h6a48d239i57d346e83cf76ce@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef2af3100906291107h270176afr389680d865ac0b48@mail.gmail.com>

Do they serve food in the wellington?

From ct at gocept.com  Mon Jun 29 20:25:38 2009
From: ct at gocept.com (Christian Theune)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 19:25:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Runners tomorrow at 7:00
Message-ID: <1246299938.19516.2.camel@mindy>

Hi,

I'll be running tomorrow and found a route that fits me at one of the
canals. 

I'll run for ~45 minutes starting at Canal crossing "Granville Street".

I'll be there at 7 and wait up to 5 minutes for possible other runners.

Cheers,
Christian

-- 
Christian Theune ? ct at gocept.com
gocept gmbh & co. kg ? forsterstra?e 29 ? 06112 halle (saale) ? germany
http://gocept.com ? tel +49 345 1229889 7 ? fax +49 345 1229889 1
Zope and Plone consulting and development
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From mikeal.rogers at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 21:02:11 2009
From: mikeal.rogers at gmail.com (Mikeal Rogers)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:02:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] So, which Pub are you at?
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906291107h270176afr389680d865ac0b48@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>
	<ef2af3100906291045i4791c895n325848b12c5eb165@mail.gmail.com>
	<54972788-EDDD-4643-9532-3C3D3D4C8908@gmail.com>
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	<ef2af3100906291107h270176afr389680d865ac0b48@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A37AB9AC-2A81-4628-9F71-8AF9351EB2A7@gmail.com>

They have crisps, and they say you can bring your own food.

-Mikeal
mikeal.rogers at gmail.com
mikeal at mozilla.com
http://www.mikealrogers.com

On Jun 29, 2009, at 7:07 PM, Tobias Brox <tobixen at gmail.com> wrote:

> Do they serve food in the wellington?

From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 21:21:12 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:21:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Premier Inn
In-Reply-To: <200906291643.n5TGhoTp016607@theraft.openend.se>
References: <bruceteckel@gmail.com>
	<14e7a2380906290753g424cd381p798019c257bc5d0f@mail.gmail.com>
	<200906291514.n5TFEu1G010684@theraft.openend.se>
	<b1f5d7040906290817l1bdb3031h9c4b79283599ff9c@mail.gmail.com>
	<14e7a2380906290858h68180ccavc56f35a639ef8730@mail.gmail.com>
	<lac@openend.se> <200906291616.n5TGGHt6014537@theraft.openend.se>
	<200906291643.n5TGhoTp016607@theraft.openend.se>
Message-ID: <14e7a2380906291221i749bee3bqd8aa7732925b14a2@mail.gmail.com>

Mystery solved. My cab driver took me to the wrong hotel. I'm now in the
Canalside version (2nd cab driver didn't know where it was either;
fortunately I still had the page open on my notebook).

-- Bruce Eckel



On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Laura Creighton <lac at openend.se> wrote:

> John phoned the Premier Inn.  The woman who is there now can find
> your reservation by name, and knows how to find out how many days
> it is for.  So everybody can stop worrying now.
>
> Laura
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From alan at xhaus.com  Mon Jun 29 21:56:47 2009
From: alan at xhaus.com (Alan Kennedy)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 20:56:47 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Anyone bringing a guitar?
Message-ID: <4a951aa00906291256l3a82dc61o4e36f4e3747033ae@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Is anyone bringing a guitar, that perhaps I can borrow for a few
minutes a day, please?

I'm taking lessons at the moment, and want to keep up practice while
I'm at Europython.

The costs of bringing my own guitar on the plane and back is almost
the cost of a new guitar.

Please let me know by direct email.

Looking forward to the conference.

Alan.

From ales.zoulek at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 22:24:11 2009
From: ales.zoulek at gmail.com (Ales Zoulek)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:24:11 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] So, which Pub are you at?
In-Reply-To: <ef2af3100906291045i4791c895n325848b12c5eb165@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>
	<ef2af3100906291045i4791c895n325848b12c5eb165@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bbb0d4d80906291324u6ec87e5cmfd760fd68af57381@mail.gmail.com>

Still there? I just arrived at the etap. Is it far? (Taxi or walk)? :)

Dne 296 2009, 6:45 odp. "Tobias Brox" <tobixen at gmail.com> napsal/a:

None yet (personally), but the official plan is to be at The
Australian Bar at 19:30.  I think I will be there around 19:45.

The non-official plan is to go to The Wellingtons nearby Victoria
square instead.

I'm not sure if any of those have wi-fi, but if you go to any of them
you will most likely find fellow europythoners

_______________________________________________ EuroPython mailing list
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From tobixen at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 23:10:59 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:10:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] So, which Pub are you at?
In-Reply-To: <bbb0d4d80906291324u6ec87e5cmfd760fd68af57381@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>
	<ef2af3100906291045i4791c895n325848b12c5eb165@mail.gmail.com>
	<bbb0d4d80906291324u6ec87e5cmfd760fd68af57381@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef2af3100906291410q2607c3bp5f3ac660fb8cd0cc@mail.gmail.com>

Ive been to the australian, and moved over to wellington. I went to
victoria street and started searching from there. People on the street
doesnt know about the place, but any patron or bartender in any real
pub in the area can give directions

On 2009-06-29, Ales Zoulek <ales.zoulek at gmail.com> wrote:
> Still there? I just arrived at the etap. Is it far? (Taxi or walk)? :)
>
> Dne 296 2009, 6:45 odp. "Tobias Brox" <tobixen at gmail.com> napsal/a:
>
> None yet (personally), but the official plan is to be at The
> Australian Bar at 19:30.  I think I will be there around 19:45.
>
> The non-official plan is to go to The Wellingtons nearby Victoria
> square instead.
>
> I'm not sure if any of those have wi-fi, but if you go to any of them
> you will most likely find fellow europythoners
>
> _______________________________________________ EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org http:/...
>

-- 
Sent from my mobile device

From ales.zoulek at gmail.com  Mon Jun 29 23:12:11 2009
From: ales.zoulek at gmail.com (Ales Zoulek)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:12:11 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] So, which Pub are you at?
In-Reply-To: <bbb0d4d80906291412u5b82869x4c358fd00f1dce54@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>
	<ef2af3100906291045i4791c895n325848b12c5eb165@mail.gmail.com>
	<bbb0d4d80906291324u6ec87e5cmfd760fd68af57381@mail.gmail.com>
	<ef2af3100906291410q2607c3bp5f3ac660fb8cd0cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<bbb0d4d80906291412u5b82869x4c358fd00f1dce54@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bbb0d4d80906291412u25e0f2a3ie877bb4645d5316@mail.gmail.com>

How do i find you there?

I'm at the bar in the orange jacket.. :)

Dne 296 2009, 10:10 odp. "Tobias Brox" <tobixen at gmail.com> napsal/a:

Ive been to the australian, and moved over to wellington. I went to
victoria street and started searching from there. People on the street
doesnt know about the place, but any patron or bartender in any real
pub in the area can give directions

On 2009-06-29, Ales Zoulek <ales.zoulek at gmail.com> wrote: > Still there? I
just arrived at the etap...
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From richard at the-moon.net  Tue Jun 30 00:25:49 2009
From: richard at the-moon.net (Richard Wall)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:25:49 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Plone stand volunteers
In-Reply-To: <F8ECCAB1-E308-42F2-A59D-951D7D1A8521@netsight.co.uk>
References: <F8ECCAB1-E308-42F2-A59D-951D7D1A8521@netsight.co.uk>
Message-ID: <fa6a0cb50906291525m58da92fcya3e17a775ecdb24e@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:39 AM, Matt Hamilton<matth at netsight.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi All,
> ?The Plone Foundation are planning a small Plone booth/table/stand at
> Europython. ?I have to put my hand up and say I've not really had time to
> organise a huge amount for this in time, but we will at least have some
> demos there if people are interested in stopping by to learn more about
> Plone (and Zope).

Great, the company I work for are planning to upgrade the website -
I'm trying to persuade them to use Plone.

I'd be really interested in learning more about customising the look
and feel of Plone - particularly with Deliverance.

Look forward to meeting you.

-RichardW.

From tobixen at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 00:56:51 2009
From: tobixen at gmail.com (Tobias Brox)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:56:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] So, which Pub are you at?
In-Reply-To: <bbb0d4d80906291412u25e0f2a3ie877bb4645d5316@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>
	<ef2af3100906291045i4791c895n325848b12c5eb165@mail.gmail.com>
	<bbb0d4d80906291324u6ec87e5cmfd760fd68af57381@mail.gmail.com>
	<ef2af3100906291410q2607c3bp5f3ac660fb8cd0cc@mail.gmail.com>
	<bbb0d4d80906291412u5b82869x4c358fd00f1dce54@mail.gmail.com>
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2009/6/29 Ales Zoulek <ales.zoulek at gmail.com>:
> How do i find you there?
>
> I'm at the bar in the orange jacket.. :)

Sorry, I already went back to the hotel.

There were many europython people in the section between the bar disk
and the window

From berco.beute at accepte.nl  Mon Jun 29 22:40:44 2009
From: berco.beute at accepte.nl (Berco Beute)
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:40:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Timetable + talk abstracts page for iPhone (offline as
	well)
Message-ID: <65FC10C0E5D1704DBB5AA54983612A820277FB@acc0101s.accepte.local>

Folks,

I created a simple webpage that combines the timetable and talk abstracts into one webpage with relative links that can easily be viewed (offline) on an iPhone:

http://tr.im/qdfq

To access it offline I'm using an iPhone app called 'MightyDocs' to access my Google Docs. Just copy paste the page into one of your own Google Docs pages.

I hope it is of any use to some of you.

Cheers,
Berco Beute
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From neil at neilwoolford.co.uk  Tue Jun 30 01:25:44 2009
From: neil at neilwoolford.co.uk (Neil Woolford)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:25:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Anyone bringing a guitar?
In-Reply-To: <4a951aa00906291256l3a82dc61o4e36f4e3747033ae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4a951aa00906291256l3a82dc61o4e36f4e3747033ae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1246317944.3853.5.camel@neilw-laptop-new>

On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 20:56 +0100, Alan Kennedy wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Is anyone bringing a guitar, that perhaps I can borrow for a few
> minutes a day, please?
> 
> I'm taking lessons at the moment, and want to keep up practice while
> I'm at Europython.

Well, the venue is the Birmingham Conservatoire, so the place is full of
music students;  also the venue's stewards are (mostly) music students
or ex-students.  They may know of practice guitars (rather than
treasured performance instruments) which might be available.

Neil


From theology at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 02:07:36 2009
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 01:07:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] So, which Pub are you at?
In-Reply-To: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>
References: <DD3AF671-A745-4362-B428-736C41BD4B3A@ghum.de>
Message-ID: <b1f5d7040906291707x751ec337q49153c1e5fc78f27@mail.gmail.com>

walkabout aussi pub/restaurant

2009/6/29 Harald Armin Massa <chef at ghum.de>:
>
>
> send by GHUM while mobile
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From sparks.m at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 11:03:00 2009
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:03:00 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Videos of talks
Message-ID: <20e5c9660906300203l182392d7s9e464927ec303411@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,


I practiced videoing talks at the tutorials this weekend (Kamaelia,
PyGTK & py.test) and
that seemed to work OK, so as a word of warning, I'll be videoing all
the talks I'm in at
Europython, and  making them available ASAP. (I won't be hammering the
europython
wifi though - 32GB of video so far)

If you've got a video camera as well, and want me to upload your video too
(and are recording to SD cards...) please come and find me - I'll have a
camera + tripod. (I've got enough storage space with me to take copies,
and have a transcode toolchain up and tested)

Regards,


Michael
-- 
http://yeoldeclue.com/blog
http://twitter.com/kamaelian
http://www.kamaelia.org/Home

From funthyme at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 11:32:29 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 10:32:29 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Videos of talks
In-Reply-To: <20e5c9660906300203l182392d7s9e464927ec303411@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20e5c9660906300203l182392d7s9e464927ec303411@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906300232m3f4b0110x3ef302ee2839d92e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/30 Michael Sparks <sparks.m at gmail.com>

> Hi,
>
>
> I practiced videoing talks at the tutorials this weekend (Kamaelia,
> PyGTK & py.test) and
> that seemed to work OK, so as a word of warning, I'll be videoing all
> the talks I'm in at
> Europython, and  making them available ASAP. (I won't be hammering the
> europython
> wifi though - 32GB of video so far)
>

This is great news :-)

Will you be able to do the keynotes and lightning talks?


> If you've got a video camera as well, and want me to upload your video too
> (and are recording to SD cards...) please come and find me - I'll have a
> camera + tripod. (I've got enough storage space with me to take copies,
> and have a transcode toolchain up and tested)
>

 So we have videos after all! Maybe Michael could do with some help if there
are any volunteers.

John
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From sparks.m at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 12:03:25 2009
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:03:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Videos of talks
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906300232m3f4b0110x3ef302ee2839d92e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20e5c9660906300203l182392d7s9e464927ec303411@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906300232m3f4b0110x3ef302ee2839d92e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20e5c9660906300303m683937b1t2166881ea499be31@mail.gmail.com>

On Tuesday 30 June 2009 10:32:29 John Pinner wrote:
> This is great news :-)
>
> Will you be able to do the keynotes and lightning talks?

Yep. I think I'll probably be generating another 100GB (or so) of
video, and have plenty of storage space above that.

For example for taking video from anyone recording talks I'm not in
with either a recent, good, digital camera, or camcorder (not over
720p30fps though please).

> So we have videos after all! Maybe Michael could do with some help if there
> are any volunteers.

Any assistance is welcome, just come find me if curious.


Michael.
-- 
http://yeoldeclue.com/blog
http://twitter.com/kamaelian
http://www.kamaelia.org/Home

From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 12:39:10 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:39:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Videos of talks
In-Reply-To: <20e5c9660906300303m683937b1t2166881ea499be31@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20e5c9660906300203l182392d7s9e464927ec303411@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906300232m3f4b0110x3ef302ee2839d92e@mail.gmail.com>
	<20e5c9660906300303m683937b1t2166881ea499be31@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <14e7a2380906300339o5ba0de7fh17b036b1c77559ca@mail.gmail.com>

Just a note to head off potential problems: is there any kind of release
form for speakers?

FWIW: All my presentations are fine for audio/video capture and
distribution.

-- Bruce Eckel



On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Michael Sparks <sparks.m at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tuesday 30 June 2009 10:32:29 John Pinner wrote:
> > This is great news :-)
> >
> > Will you be able to do the keynotes and lightning talks?
>
> Yep. I think I'll probably be generating another 100GB (or so) of
> video, and have plenty of storage space above that.
>
> For example for taking video from anyone recording talks I'm not in
> with either a recent, good, digital camera, or camcorder (not over
> 720p30fps though please).
>
> > So we have videos after all! Maybe Michael could do with some help if
> there
> > are any volunteers.
>
> Any assistance is welcome, just come find me if curious.
>
>
> Michael.
> --
> http://yeoldeclue.com/blog
> http://twitter.com/kamaelian
> http://www.kamaelia.org/Home
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 13:09:39 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:09:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Videos of talks
In-Reply-To: <14e7a2380906300339o5ba0de7fh17b036b1c77559ca@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20e5c9660906300203l182392d7s9e464927ec303411@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906300232m3f4b0110x3ef302ee2839d92e@mail.gmail.com>
	<20e5c9660906300303m683937b1t2166881ea499be31@mail.gmail.com>
	<14e7a2380906300339o5ba0de7fh17b036b1c77559ca@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906300409p6e602789j62bac2f5d50df9af@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

2009/6/30 Bruce Eckel <bruceteckel at gmail.com>

> Just a note to head off potential problems: is there any kind of release
> form for speakers?
>
> FWIW: All my presentations are fine for audio/video capture and
> distribution.


All speakers were asked for permission to publish when they submitted their
talks.

John
--


>
>
> -- Bruce Eckel
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Michael Sparks <sparks.m at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday 30 June 2009 10:32:29 John Pinner wrote:
>> > This is great news :-)
>> >
>> > Will you be able to do the keynotes and lightning talks?
>>
>> Yep. I think I'll probably be generating another 100GB (or so) of
>> video, and have plenty of storage space above that.
>>
>> For example for taking video from anyone recording talks I'm not in
>> with either a recent, good, digital camera, or camcorder (not over
>> 720p30fps though please).
>>
>> > So we have videos after all! Maybe Michael could do with some help if
>> there
>> > are any volunteers.
>>
>> Any assistance is welcome, just come find me if curious.
>>
>>
>> Michael.
>> --
>> http://yeoldeclue.com/blog
>> http://twitter.com/kamaelian
>> http://www.kamaelia.org/Home
>> _______________________________________________
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>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From cs at comlounge.net  Tue Jun 30 13:21:15 2009
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:21:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Tags to use
Message-ID: <4A49F52B.9040600@comlounge.net>

Hi there!

Lots of people (hopefully) will be putting up blog posts, videos, photos
of the conference on the net. And many will also hopefully use Twitter
to spread the word.

It would be good to use tags for that:

So for blog posts, videos and all the media stuff maybe use "europython"
and "europython2009". Put this wherever the system allows you to put
tags (without the quotes).

In case of blog posts you can simply use this HTML snippet:

<a href="http://technorati.com/tag/europython2009"
rel="tag">europython2009</a>

<a href="http://technorati.com/tag/europython" rel="tag">europython</a>

(Wordpress should create this for you automatically, maybe with
different URLs).

On Twitter it's a bit different because of the size limit. I would
suggest to use the hashtag #europython.

I would also advise to not use @europython as this is not that easily
findable and recognizable by usual twitter tools. IMHO this should only
be used by organizers to make an official post.

So hopefully that way we will make stuff more findable and might also
get the europython tag to bubble up on e.g. twitter trending topics etc.

-- christian



-- 
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From cs at comlounge.net  Tue Jun 30 13:32:20 2009
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:32:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Please upload your slides to slideshare.com
Message-ID: <4A49F7C4.2000406@comlounge.net>

Hi!

Speakers might also want to upload their slides to http://slideshare.com
in order to publicize this conference and your topics a bit more.

It's a free service which also converts your upload to a nice player
which is embeddable on blogs etc. (if you wish it to be so).

There also is an event already for EuroPython 2009 defined on there:

http://www.slideshare.net/event/europython-2009

So please also add your slides to this event.

And remember again to tag your slideshows there as well with at least
"europython2009" and "europython" (without the quotes).

cheers,

Christian

-- 
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COM.lounge GmbH                              blog: http://mrtopf.de/blog
Hanbrucher Str. 33                                       Skype: HerrTopf
52064 Aachen                             Video Blog: http://comlounge.tv
Tel: +49 241 400 730 0                           E-Mail cs at comlounge.net
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neuer Podcast: Der OpenWeb-Podcast (http://openwebpodcast.de)
new podcast: Data Without Borders (http://datawithoutborders.net)


From sparks.m at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 13:37:43 2009
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:37:43 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Videos of talks
In-Reply-To: <ff8a32f0906300232m3f4b0110x3ef302ee2839d92e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20e5c9660906300203l182392d7s9e464927ec303411@mail.gmail.com>
	<ff8a32f0906300232m3f4b0110x3ef302ee2839d92e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20e5c9660906300437l3d0e11e4g665fab769a21bc48@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 10:32 AM, John Pinner<funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:
...
>  So we have videos after all! Maybe Michael could do with some help if there
> are any volunteers.

One thing that would be particularly helpful is if people could not
unplug the 4 way gang socket powering the hard drive I'm copying video
onto, the camera doing the recordings, and the logically machine in
between. Sitting on power cables is generally a bad idea ! :-) (unless
you know how good the cable is you have a small risk of an electric
shock, which would be really nasty)

Thanks ! :-)


Michael.

From cs at comlounge.net  Tue Jun 30 13:38:25 2009
From: cs at comlounge.net (Christian Scholz)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:38:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Please upload your slides to slideshare.com
In-Reply-To: <4A49F7C4.2000406@comlounge.net>
References: <4A49F7C4.2000406@comlounge.net>
Message-ID: <4A49F931.7070804@comlounge.net>

Just to make that clear: I am not proposing to ONLY upload it to
slideshare.com but additionally to get more publicity.

There also is a wiki page where you also should upload it:

http://wiki.europython.eu/TalkMaterials

-- Christian

Christian Scholz wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Speakers might also want to upload their slides to http://slideshare.com
> in order to publicize this conference and your topics a bit more.
> 
> It's a free service which also converts your upload to a nice player
> which is embeddable on blogs etc. (if you wish it to be so).
> 
> There also is an event already for EuroPython 2009 defined on there:
> 
> http://www.slideshare.net/event/europython-2009
> 
> So please also add your slides to this event.
> 
> And remember again to tag your slideshows there as well with at least
> "europython2009" and "europython" (without the quotes).
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Christian
> 


-- 
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Hanbrucher Str. 33                                       Skype: HerrTopf
52064 Aachen                             Video Blog: http://comlounge.tv
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From tom at lemurconsulting.com  Tue Jun 30 14:38:31 2009
From: tom at lemurconsulting.com (Tom)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:38:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <20090627114747.GD23320@zanu.org.uk>
References: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<f909bf50906261521i75e8e52fre2343bcd44fe9ef6@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <c8be9c1a0906300538w440a8031k955cd302e4717eee@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/27 Nicholas Piper <nick-europython at nickpiper.co.uk>

> Tom,
>
> On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, Tom Adams wrote:
>
> > > I'll be going here at least a couple of times - maybe you'd like to
> > > join me? I don't know which nights yet.
> >
> > Love to. I'll only be there for the conference proper so I'll probably
> > be going Tuesday evening and Thursday before I catch the train home.
>
> I added this to http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials for 7:30pm on
> Tuesday. I took the liberty of putting down your name already.


Is anyone walking from the Conservatoire (or the Australian Bar/Wellington?)
>From the map it looks easy to get lost if you don't know where you're
going..

cheers,
Tom
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From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Tue Jun 30 14:40:03 2009
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:40:03 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <c8be9c1a0906300538w440a8031k955cd302e4717eee@mail.gmail.com>
References: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<f909bf50906261521i75e8e52fre2343bcd44fe9ef6@mail.gmail.com>
	<20090627102518.GA23320@zanu.org.uk>
	<f909bf50906270404i3c8aefc7w6d4f4af84c7be343@mail.gmail.com>
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	<c8be9c1a0906300538w440a8031k955cd302e4717eee@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3e4e51a80906300540k2df5a30aia230b21cd208005@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm happy to act as a guide if you book me in with the rest of the group.

That's blackmail for you :)

Ciar?n

From kristoffer.gronlund at purplescout.se  Tue Jun 30 14:57:49 2009
From: kristoffer.gronlund at purplescout.se (=?utf-8?Q?Kristoffer_Gr=C3=B6nlund?=)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:57:49 +0200 (CEST)
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <c8be9c1a0906300538w440a8031k955cd302e4717eee@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <29272458.2071246366668985.JavaMail.root@husmusen>

----- "Tom" <tom at lemurconsulting.com> wrote:
> Is anyone walking from the Conservatoire (or the Australian
> Bar/Wellington?) From the map it looks easy to get lost if you don't
> know where you're going..
> 

Is it too late to tag along? Considering the trouble I had finding the conservatoire, I doubt I'd find my way there on my own...

-- 
++
Kristoffer Gr?nlund
kristoffer.gronlund at purplescout.se


From cfbolz at gmx.de  Tue Jun 30 15:16:39 2009
From: cfbolz at gmx.de (Carl Friedrich Bolz)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:16:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <c8be9c1a0906300538w440a8031k955cd302e4717eee@mail.gmail.com>
References: <acb5f7a90906261509t1a39a5e1j4e949b1659c518b8@mail.gmail.com>	<f909bf50906261521i75e8e52fre2343bcd44fe9ef6@mail.gmail.com>	<20090627102518.GA23320@zanu.org.uk>	<f909bf50906270404i3c8aefc7w6d4f4af84c7be343@mail.gmail.com>	<20090627114747.GD23320@zanu.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <4A4A1037.6030509@gmx.de>

Tom wrote:
> 2009/6/27 Nicholas Piper <nick-europython at nickpiper.co.uk 
> <mailto:nick-europython at nickpiper.co.uk>>
> 
>     Tom,
> 
>     On Sat, 27 Jun 2009, Tom Adams wrote:
> 
>      > > I'll be going here at least a couple of times - maybe you'd like to
>      > > join me? I don't know which nights yet.
>      >
>      > Love to. I'll only be there for the conference proper so I'll
>     probably
>      > be going Tuesday evening and Thursday before I catch the train home.
> 
>     I added this to http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials for 7:30pm on
>     Tuesday. I took the liberty of putting down your name already.
> 
> 
> Is anyone walking from the Conservatoire (or the Australian 
> Bar/Wellington?) From the map it looks easy to get lost if you don't 
> know where you're going..

I fear I need to go to the hotel before heading out for dinner, since I 
only arrived this morning. Might mean that I'll be back a bit later than 
7.30 at the Conservatoire. Would you all be fine with saying 7.45?

Cheers,

Carl Friedrich

From pontus.enmark at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 15:24:02 2009
From: pontus.enmark at gmail.com (Pontus Enmark)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 14:24:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <29272458.2071246366668985.JavaMail.root@husmusen>
References: <c8be9c1a0906300538w440a8031k955cd302e4717eee@mail.gmail.com>
	<29272458.2071246366668985.JavaMail.root@husmusen>
Message-ID: <7b7c46920906300624r7238fd60pab8124b41069e0f9@mail.gmail.com>

No it's not too late.
We're meeting in the arcade "Paradise Forum" (just outside the venue) at
19:00, for those who want help finding the place.

Pontus Enmark


On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Kristoffer Gr?nlund <
kristoffer.gronlund at purplescout.se> wrote:

> ----- "Tom" <tom at lemurconsulting.com> wrote:
> > Is anyone walking from the Conservatoire (or the Australian
> > Bar/Wellington?) From the map it looks easy to get lost if you don't
> > know where you're going..
> >
>
> Is it too late to tag along? Considering the trouble I had finding the
> conservatoire, I doubt I'd find my way there on my own...
>
> --
> ++
> Kristoffer Gr?nlund
> kristoffer.gronlund at purplescout.se
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
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From cool-rr at cool-rr.com  Tue Jun 30 17:15:16 2009
From: cool-rr at cool-rr.com (cool-RR)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:15:16 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Computer Simulations
Message-ID: <a422b72d0906300815s7f009996mf055b60f5036640a@mail.gmail.com>

Are there any people here who have an interest in any kind of computer
simulations? If so, I am interested in showing you my project,
GarlicSim<http://garlicsim.com/>,
which is a platform for writing, running and analyzing simulations.
(Simulations of any kind: Physics, or economics, or game theory, or
whatever.)
I'm not sure whether I will do a lightning talk on my project, so in any
case I'd like to meet you and show it to you, in the hopes that you would
want to use it for your simulations, and/or want to participate in its
development.

So if anyone is interested, give me a mail.

Ram Rachum.
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From tom at lemurconsulting.com  Tue Jun 30 17:20:38 2009
From: tom at lemurconsulting.com (Tom)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:20:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <7b7c46920906300624r7238fd60pab8124b41069e0f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c8be9c1a0906300538w440a8031k955cd302e4717eee@mail.gmail.com>
	<29272458.2071246366668985.JavaMail.root@husmusen>
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Message-ID: <c8be9c1a0906300820q24329cfes92008e6dc51e4635@mail.gmail.com>

2009/6/30 Pontus Enmark <pontus.enmark at gmail.com>

> No it's not too late.
> We're meeting in the arcade "Paradise Forum" (just outside the venue) at
> 19:00, for those who want help finding the place.


Cool. They're now expecting 12.

Tom
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From cfbolz at gmx.de  Tue Jun 30 17:24:01 2009
From: cfbolz at gmx.de (Carl Friedrich Bolz)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:24:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
In-Reply-To: <7b7c46920906300624r7238fd60pab8124b41069e0f9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c8be9c1a0906300538w440a8031k955cd302e4717eee@mail.gmail.com>	<29272458.2071246366668985.JavaMail.root@husmusen>
	<7b7c46920906300624r7238fd60pab8124b41069e0f9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4A4A2E11.7020102@gmx.de>

Pontus Enmark wrote:
> No it's not too late.
> We're meeting in the arcade "Paradise Forum" (just outside the venue) at 
> 19:00, for those who want help finding the place.

Cool, I'll be there at 7. I definitely need help :-).

Cheers,

Carl Friedrich

From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 17:25:51 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:25:51 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Computer Simulations
In-Reply-To: <a422b72d0906300815s7f009996mf055b60f5036640a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a422b72d0906300815s7f009996mf055b60f5036640a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <14e7a2380906300825t38d525a6gb606f3343aff0895@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, I've been doing simulation work. How about turning this into an
open-spaces discussion?

-- Bruce Eckel



On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:15 PM, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:

> Are there any people here who have an interest in any kind of computer
> simulations? If so, I am interested in showing you my project, GarlicSim<http://garlicsim.com/>,
> which is a platform for writing, running and analyzing simulations.
> (Simulations of any kind: Physics, or economics, or game theory, or
> whatever.)
> I'm not sure whether I will do a lightning talk on my project, so in any
> case I'd like to meet you and show it to you, in the hopes that you would
> want to use it for your simulations, and/or want to participate in its
> development.
>
> So if anyone is interested, give me a mail.
>
> Ram Rachum.
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>
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From carlo.hamalainen at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 17:31:12 2009
From: carlo.hamalainen at gmail.com (Carlo Hamalainen)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:31:12 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Computer Simulations
In-Reply-To: <a422b72d0906300815s7f009996mf055b60f5036640a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a422b72d0906300815s7f009996mf055b60f5036640a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <46ba3d380906300831u5f8f1248gfeceb8d4adbc9d0f@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:15 PM, cool-RR<cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:
> I'm not sure whether I will do a lightning talk on my project, so in any
> case I'd like to meet you and show it to you, in the hopes that you would
> want to use it for your simulations, and/or want to participate in its
> development.

You should do a lightning talk!

-- 
Carlo Hamalainen
http://carlo-hamalainen.net

From bruceteckel at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 17:41:38 2009
From: bruceteckel at gmail.com (Bruce Eckel)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:41:38 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Computer Simulations
In-Reply-To: <46ba3d380906300831u5f8f1248gfeceb8d4adbc9d0f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a422b72d0906300815s7f009996mf055b60f5036640a@mail.gmail.com>
	<46ba3d380906300831u5f8f1248gfeceb8d4adbc9d0f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <14e7a2380906300841h75f47311ie8113e6eb365de52@mail.gmail.com>

Note that you can do both: a lightning talk to introduce it, and later an
open-spaces session.

It does depend on what you want to accomplish: if you want discussion and
feedback, then an open-spaces session makes more sense. If you just want to
let people know what you're doing, then a lightning talk.

-- Bruce Eckel



On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Carlo Hamalainen <
carlo.hamalainen at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:15 PM, cool-RR<cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:
> > I'm not sure whether I will do a lightning talk on my project, so in any
> > case I'd like to meet you and show it to you, in the hopes that you would
> > want to use it for your simulations, and/or want to participate in its
> > development.
>
> You should do a lightning talk!
>
> --
> Carlo Hamalainen
> http://carlo-hamalainen.net
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
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From nick.piper at logica.com  Tue Jun 30 17:55:40 2009
From: nick.piper at logica.com (Piper, Nick)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 16:55:40 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
Message-ID: <92A602CFE7F3714296557426FD9D0054021CACE4@UK-EX012.groupinfra.com>

Sorry for the blackberry top post. 

The wiki only shows 10? I added folk who said here too. 

I did not see you called before me, so at 4.40pm I told them 10. If you think 12 please add to the wiki Socials and mail me directly. I will serialise with the caf?. 

Nick

________________________________

From: europython-bounces+nick.piper=logica.com at python.org 
To: Pontus Enmark 
Cc: europython at python.org 
Sent: Tue Jun 30 16:20:38 2009
Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes 


2009/6/30 Pontus Enmark <pontus.enmark at gmail.com>


	No it's not too late. 
	We're meeting in the arcade "Paradise Forum" (just outside the venue) at 19:00, for those who want help finding the place.


Cool. They're now expecting 12.

Tom


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From tommi at syneus.fi  Tue Jun 30 18:28:10 2009
From: tommi at syneus.fi (Tommi Penttinen)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:28:10 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
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I'd like to come as well.

Is there still enough room for me as well?

-Tommi
On Jun 30, 2009, at 4:55 PM, Piper, Nick wrote:

> Sorry for the blackberry top post.
>
> The wiki only shows 10? I added folk who said here too.
>
> I did not see you called before me, so at 4.40pm I told them 10. If  
> you think 12 please add to the wiki Socials and mail me directly. I  
> will serialise with the caf??.
>
> Nick
>
>
> From: europython-bounces+nick.piper=logica.com at python.org
> To: Pontus Enmark
> Cc: europython at python.org
> Sent: Tue Jun 30 16:20:38 2009
> Subject: Re: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
>
> 2009/6/30 Pontus Enmark <pontus.enmark at gmail.com>
> No it's not too late.
> We're meeting in the arcade "Paradise Forum" (just outside the  
> venue) at 19:00, for those who want help finding the place.
>
> Cool. They're now expecting 12.
>
> Tom
>
>
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From nick-europython at nickpiper.co.uk  Tue Jun 30 18:47:05 2009
From: nick-europython at nickpiper.co.uk (Nick Piper)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:47:05 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Vegan restaurants, cafes
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[Warehouse cafe]

On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:28:10 +0100 Tommi Penttinen wrote:
>I'd like to come as well.
>
>Is there still enough room for me as well?
>

I'll add your name to http://wiki.europython.eu/Socials

Nick

From cool-rr at cool-rr.com  Tue Jun 30 20:06:02 2009
From: cool-rr at cool-rr.com (cool-RR)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:06:02 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Computer Simulations
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We're gonna have an open space discussion. I wrote it on the board for
15:30, July 1st.

Niko: The site http://garlicsim.com just redirects to the GitHub page. It
seems to be working now.


On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 6:21 PM, Niko Wilbert <mail at nikowilbert.de> wrote:

> I am very interested in this. Actually I just said in my talk how I
> miss such a system :-)
> The GarlicSim webpage seems to be currently down, I would really like
> to learn more about it.
>
> Cheers,
> Niko Wilbert
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 5:15 PM, cool-RR<cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:
> > Are there any people here who have an interest in any kind of computer
> > simulations? If so, I am interested in showing you my project, GarlicSim,
> > which is a platform for writing, running and analyzing simulations.
> > (Simulations of any kind: Physics, or economics, or game theory, or
> > whatever.)
> > I'm not sure whether I will do a lightning talk on my project, so in any
> > case I'd like to meet you and show it to you, in the hopes that you would
> > want to use it for your simulations, and/or want to participate in its
> > development.
> >
> > So if anyone is interested, give me a mail.
> >
> > Ram Rachum.
> >
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From sparks.m at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 22:06:52 2009
From: sparks.m at gmail.com (Michael Sparks)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:06:52 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Kamaelia Open Space?
Message-ID: <20e5c9660906301306o7cec3be8sd8b05f557d5a9bf8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,


I've had a few people mention that wished they'd been able to make the
tutorial on sunday, but weren't arriving until later, and want to
gauge if there's interest from anyone in attending an open space
session on kamaelia, cherry picking parts of the tutorial?
Walkthrough, discussion or people interested in cannibalising it for
other stuff ? (Not the full tutorial obviously, though, that'd be
crazy :-)

If there is any, I'll put a session up.

If you have no idea what I'm talking about, it's basically unix style
ethos in python, except generators/threads/processs instead of
processes, python objects instead of text streams & inboxes/outboxes
instead of file handles. ie Unix pipelines gives you concurrency more
or less for free, and I wanted the same in standard software, and
particularly python. Not really for the concurrency (though we were
dealing with naturally concurrent problems), but because it's
maintainable.

We recently realised that some of our higher level components boil
down to implementing bash/shell language features -- which isn't too
surprising when you consider that bash shell systems are basic
concurrency languages (one that just hopes no-one notices ;). If
anyone's interested in exploring that in python (kamaelia or
filterpype, or fibra, or stackless, or disco, or ...), the that'd be
interesting too.

More info on K here:
http://mail.python.org/pipermail/europython/2009-June/007343.html


Michael.

From davidjagoe at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 22:15:18 2009
From: davidjagoe at gmail.com (David Jagoe)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:15:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Kamaelia Open Space?
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2009/6/30 Michael Sparks <sparks.m at gmail.com>:
> Hi,

Ahoy,

> I've had a few people mention that wished they'd been able to make the
> tutorial on sunday, but weren't arriving until later, and want to
> gauge if there's interest from anyone in attending an open space
> session on kamaelia, cherry picking parts of the tutorial?

I'd definitely be interested.

From aafshar at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 22:33:07 2009
From: aafshar at gmail.com (Ali Afshar)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:33:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Kamaelia Open Space?
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	<c4bea5630906301315g1329a898g25af04b704c1c5b2@mail.gmail.com>
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Me, too, specific interest in GTK + Kamaelia integration.

2009/6/30 David Jagoe <davidjagoe at gmail.com>:
> 2009/6/30 Michael Sparks <sparks.m at gmail.com>:
>> Hi,
>
> Ahoy,
>
>> I've had a few people mention that wished they'd been able to make the
>> tutorial on sunday, but weren't arriving until later, and want to
>> gauge if there's interest from anyone in attending an open space
>> session on kamaelia, cherry picking parts of the tutorial?
>
> I'd definitely be interested.
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>

From james.bullock at bcu.ac.uk  Tue Jun 30 22:10:36 2009
From: james.bullock at bcu.ac.uk (Jamie Bullock)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:10:36 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Keynote recordings
Message-ID: <6B4C380C-3D0A-4515-806A-E9EA94CE96E9@bcu.ac.uk>


Hi,

Do you know if the keynotes are being recorded (audio or video) and if  
they will be made available at all? I'm particularly interested in the  
Cory Doctorow one which I missed today.

best,

Jamie


--
Jamie Bullock
Research Assistant, Interactive Technology in Music Performance
Birmingham Conservatoire
Birmingham City University
UK
http://www.jamiebullock.com


From funthyme at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 23:22:54 2009
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:22:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Keynote recordings
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Message-ID: <ff8a32f0906301422sf70ec16p26e8bba4ac1875cd@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Jamie,

2009/6/30 Jamie Bullock <james.bullock at bcu.ac.uk>

>
> Hi,
>
> Do you know if the keynotes are being recorded (audio or video) and if they
> will be made available at all? I'm particularly interested in the Cory
> Doctorow one which I missed today.
>

We set out to make audio recordings of all the talks. hopefully we've
succeeded. Some will have been videoed, I don't know about Cory's talk:
hopefully someone else will know,

John
--


>
> best,
>
> Jamie
>
>
> --
> Jamie Bullock
> Research Assistant, Interactive Technology in Music Performance
> Birmingham Conservatoire
> Birmingham City University
> UK
> http://www.jamiebullock.com
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From reinoutvanrees at gmail.com  Tue Jun 30 23:36:01 2009
From: reinoutvanrees at gmail.com (Reinout van Rees)
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:36:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Keynote recordings
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I've made a textual summary at http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog in  
case you want a summary NOW :-)

Reinout

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On 30 jun 2009, at 22:22, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Jamie,
>
> 2009/6/30 Jamie Bullock <james.bullock at bcu.ac.uk>
>
> Hi,
>
> Do you know if the keynotes are being recorded (audio or video) and  
> if they will be made available at all? I'm particularly interested  
> in the Cory Doctorow one which I missed today.
>
> We set out to make audio recordings of all the talks. hopefully  
> we've succeeded. Some will have been videoed, I don't know about  
> Cory's talk: hopefully someone else will know,
>
> John
> --
>
>
> best,
>
> Jamie
>
>
> --
> Jamie Bullock
> Research Assistant, Interactive Technology in Music Performance
> Birmingham Conservatoire
> Birmingham City University
> UK
> http://www.jamiebullock.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
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