From W.Jacobs at Intersentia.be Wed Jun 2 12:27:47 2010 From: W.Jacobs at Intersentia.be (Wietse Jacobs) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 12:27:47 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration Message-ID: Hello, I'd like to register 3 people from our company for Europython (the conference 19th - 22nd July 2010): - Joris Peeters - Bram Marien - Wietse Jacobs I'd like to be able to pay by bank transfer. How should we proceed? Best regards, Wietse Jacobs Intersentia | Groenstraat 31 | BE-2640 Mortsel Tel: +32 (0)3 609 50 59 | Fax: +32 (0)3 658 71 21 w.jacobs at firstsoftware.be | www.intersentia.be | www.firstsoftware.be -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From funthyme at gmail.com Wed Jun 2 13:04:50 2010 From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner) Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 12:04:50 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Registration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello, On 2 June 2010 11:27, Wietse Jacobs wrote: > Hello, > > > > I?d like to register 3 people from our company for Europython (the > conference 19th - 22nd July 2010): > > > > - Joris Peeters > > - Bram Marien > > - Wietse Jacobs > > > > I?d like to be able to pay by bank transfer. How should we proceed? > Please follow the Instructions in Item 6 of the Booking Help: 6. What if you wish to book in multiple people? The booking system looks after both Registration and Payment, so please do not register several people in one person's name, or we'll have to get individual details from you and enter the data. This will be a nuisance to both you and us. If you want to pay for your group in one transaction, please: - Register each person individually, selecting Cheque or Postal or Bank Transfer payment, and noting the registration reference numbers - Send a cheque to 'The PyCon UK Society' covering the total, quoting the reference numbers, or - Pay by Bank Transferquoting the reference numbers, or - Telephone the number below to pay by credit card, making clear that you are paying for the EuroPython 2010 conference, and quoting the reference numbers. best wishes, John -- Best regards, > > > > *Wietse Jacobs* > > Intersentia | Groenstraat 31 | BE-2640 Mortsel > > Tel: +32 (0)3 609 50 59 | Fax: +32 (0)3 658 71 21 > > *w.jacobs*@firstsoftware.be | www.intersentia.be | > www.firstsoftware.be > > > > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - > http://www.europython2010.eu > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > > -- EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010, Birmingham, UK -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chef at ghum.de Sat Jun 5 13:23:50 2010 From: chef at ghum.de (Massa, Harald Armin) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:23:50 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] Europython - rescheduling of JessyInk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello Talk-Schedulers! Hannes Hochreiner, the speaker of the "jessyInk" talk ist time restricted to Monday & Tuesday. Could his talk please be rescheduled accordingly? Hannes has mailed me asking about the scheduling, he is in need to book his flights - could someone help me to help him please? Best wishes, Harald -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Spielberger Stra?e 49 70435 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 no fx, no carrier pigeon - Using PostgreSQL is mostly about sleeping well at night. -- GHUM Harald Massa persuadere et programmare Harald Armin Massa Spielberger Stra?e 49 70435 Stuttgart 0173/9409607 no fx, no carrier pigeon - Using PostgreSQL is mostly about sleeping well at night. From theology at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 16:45:36 2010 From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:45:36 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] [europython-talks] Europython - rescheduling of JessyInk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 5 June 2010 12:23, Massa, Harald Armin wrote: > Hello Talk-Schedulers! > > Hannes Hochreiner, the speaker of the "jessyInk" talk ist time > restricted to Monday & Tuesday. Somebody may have already said this (I am having an old email clearout at the moment). He is scheduled for monday: http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable/ From hannes at hochreiner.net Sun Jun 13 17:10:07 2010 From: hannes at hochreiner.net (Hannes Hochreiner) Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2010 17:10:07 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] [europython-talks] Europython - rescheduling of JessyInk In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1276441807.16717.5.camel@exo> On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 15:45 +0100, Zeth wrote: > On 5 June 2010 12:23, Massa, Harald Armin wrote: > > Hello Talk-Schedulers! > > > > Hannes Hochreiner, the speaker of the "jessyInk" talk ist time > > restricted to Monday & Tuesday. > > Somebody may have already said this (I am having an old email clearout > at the moment). > > He is scheduled for monday: > http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable/ > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > Thanks a lot for rescheduling the talk! The new slot suits me very well. I am really looking forward to EuroPython! Cheers, Hannes From memooney at gmail.com Mon Jun 14 21:24:28 2010 From: memooney at gmail.com (Mary Mooney) Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:24:28 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] Partners at Europython 2010 Message-ID: Only 35 days to go and the Europython Party begins. If you have not looked at the Partners' Page now might be a good time. We have had a few suggestions and will try to accommodate requests from as many partners as possible. The Partner Programme is entirely complementary and open to all those accompanying delegates so why not visit http://www.europython.eu/about/partners/ - or better still forward this email to your partner - to make sure everyone visiting Birmingham next month has a wonderful time. If anyone wants more information about the Partner Programme please send me an email. ------ Mary Mooney -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From luke.leighton at gmail.com Fri Jun 18 18:19:34 2010 From: luke.leighton at gmail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 16:19:34 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] little BOFs again Message-ID: just to ask if there's going to be "little bofs", because i'd like to invite people to submit mini patches to bring grailbrowser up-to-date with its regexes. i've managed to get grailbrowser running under python2.4, but there are 90 regexs that need converting, either with python 2.4's reconvert.py module or by hand. once those are done it'll happily run under python2.4-2.7 http://github.com/lkcl/grailbrowser l. From mfoord at python.org Fri Jun 18 18:30:59 2010 From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:30:59 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] little BOFs again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C1B9F43.2010209@python.org> On 18/06/2010 17:19, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > just to ask if there's going to be "little bofs", because i'd like to > invite people to submit mini patches to bring grailbrowser up-to-date > with its regexes. i've managed to get grailbrowser running under > python2.4, but there are 90 regexs that need converting, either with > python 2.4's reconvert.py module or by hand. once those are done > it'll happily run under python2.4-2.7 > http://github.com/lkcl/grailbrowser > One possibility would be to use PyPy, with its new C extension support, to get sandboxing. Implementing a renderer for any *recent* version of html is going to be more work though... :-) All the best, Michael > l. > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog READ CAREFULLY. By accepting and reading this email you agree, on behalf of your employer, to release me from all obligations and waivers arising from any and all NON-NEGOTIATED agreements, licenses, terms-of-service, shrinkwrap, clickwrap, browsewrap, confidentiality, non-disclosure, non-compete and acceptable use policies (?BOGUS AGREEMENTS?) that I have entered into with your employer, its partners, licensors, agents and assigns, in perpetuity, without prejudice to my ongoing rights and privileges. 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From luke.leighton at gmail.com Fri Jun 18 19:17:44 2010 From: luke.leighton at gmail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:17:44 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] little BOFs again In-Reply-To: <4C1B9F43.2010209@python.org> References: <4C1B9F43.2010209@python.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Michael Foord wrote: > On 18/06/2010 17:19, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> it'll happily run under python2.4-2.7 >> http://github.com/lkcl/grailbrowser >> > > One possibility would be to use PyPy, with its new C extension support, to > get sandboxing. intriguing idea. what's the purpose - make it possible to run python2.4 code on a modern system? > Implementing a renderer for any *recent* version of html is going to be more > work though... :-) ahh, deep joy - you have filled my future with such fuuun. yes i was really looking forward to adding HTML5 style features, by investigating paul bonser's pybrowser work: he's done a back-end capable of supporting W3C DOM TR1,2 and 3. that's step 1: the renderer itself... yeah... 2D canvas particularly springs to mind... l. From mfoord at python.org Fri Jun 18 19:21:58 2010 From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:21:58 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] little BOFs again In-Reply-To: References: <4C1B9F43.2010209@python.org> Message-ID: <4C1BAB36.2070709@python.org> On 18/06/2010 18:17, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Michael Foord wrote: > >> On 18/06/2010 17:19, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> > >>> it'll happily run under python2.4-2.7 >>> http://github.com/lkcl/grailbrowser >>> >>> >> One possibility would be to use PyPy, with its new C extension support, to >> get sandboxing. >> > intriguing idea. what's the purpose - make it possible to run > python2.4 code on a modern system? > Python 2.4 still runs fine on all modern systems as far as I know. My suggestion was to enable running Python applets in the browser without security problems. Python applets was part of the point of grail and the rexec module in Python was created for this purpose; but rexec was hopelessly flawed (there were always ways to break out of the sandbox) and was deprecated. All the best, Michael > >> Implementing a renderer for any *recent* version of html is going to be more >> work though... :-) >> > ahh, deep joy - you have filled my future with such fuuun. > > yes i was really looking forward to adding HTML5 style features, by > investigating paul bonser's pybrowser work: he's done a back-end > capable of supporting W3C DOM TR1,2 and 3. > > that's step 1: the renderer itself... yeah... 2D canvas particularly > springs to mind... > > l. > -- http://www.ironpythoninaction.com/ http://www.voidspace.org.uk/blog READ CAREFULLY. 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From luke.leighton at gmail.com Fri Jun 18 19:56:07 2010 From: luke.leighton at gmail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 17:56:07 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] little BOFs again In-Reply-To: <4C1BAB36.2070709@python.org> References: <4C1B9F43.2010209@python.org> <4C1BAB36.2070709@python.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Michael Foord wrote: >>> One possibility would be to use PyPy, with its new C extension support, >>> to >>> get sandboxing. >>> >> >> ?intriguing idea. ?what's the purpose - make it possible to run >> python2.4 code on a modern system? >> > > Python 2.4 still runs fine on all modern systems as far as I know. yes. > My > suggestion was to enable running Python applets in the browser without > security problems. Python applets was part of the point of grail ahh. right. ok. interesting. ok, well the purpose i have in mind for it is actually _as_ a platform-independent web browser, without having to have a whopping 30mb download of c/c++ and having to also compile python bindings to whatever web engine... basically i want access to W3C DOM functions (the ones that people normally confuse as being solely and exclusively tied to javascript) from python. but enough about that - the idea of getting grailbrowser up-and-running again i think people would find insane/amusing enough to try to get it going again. searches for "grailbrowser" show loads of people trying and failing to get it to work, so there is definitely interest out there. > and the > rexec module in Python was created for this purpose; but rexec was > hopelessly flawed (there were always ways to break out of the sandbox) and > was deprecated. yes - i was disappointed about that when it happened: i had a project which relied on it. rexec, regardless of the "breakage", actually had other benefits, most notably demonstrated by overloading import to allow scripts to be loaded out of sql databases rather than off the filesystem, on-demand. whether sandboxing was broken or not was completely irrelevant, as far as the overriding / sub-classing of rexec was concerned. by adding in that exception "go to hell in a handbasket!" right at the beginning of the rexec module i basically had to either take a copy of rexec.py and remove that one line (and then maintain that copy, forever), or can the project. l. From flub at devork.be Fri Jun 18 21:21:13 2010 From: flub at devork.be (Floris Bruynooghe) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 20:21:13 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] little BOFs again In-Reply-To: References: <4C1B9F43.2010209@python.org> <4C1BAB36.2070709@python.org> Message-ID: <20100618192113.GB28437@laurie.devork.be> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 05:56:07PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > rexec, regardless of the "breakage", actually had other benefits, > most notably demonstrated by overloading import to allow scripts to be > loaded out of sql databases rather than off the filesystem, on-demand. > whether sandboxing was broken or not was completely irrelevant, as > far as the overriding / sub-classing of rexec was concerned. Shouldn't this be possible in a clean way with a PEP 302 import hook? Regards Floris -- Debian GNU/Linux -- The Power of Freedom www.debian.org | www.gnu.org | www.kernel.org From luke.leighton at gmail.com Fri Jun 18 21:43:48 2010 From: luke.leighton at gmail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:43:48 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] little BOFs again In-Reply-To: <20100618192113.GB28437@laurie.devork.be> References: <4C1B9F43.2010209@python.org> <4C1BAB36.2070709@python.org> <20100618192113.GB28437@laurie.devork.be> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Floris Bruynooghe wrote: > On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 05:56:07PM +0000, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> ?rexec, regardless of the "breakage", actually had other benefits, >> most notably demonstrated by overloading import to allow scripts to be >> loaded out of sql databases rather than off the filesystem, on-demand. >> ?whether sandboxing was broken or not was completely irrelevant, as >> far as the overriding / sub-classing of rexec was concerned. > > Shouldn't this be possible in a clean way with a PEP 302 import hook? ahh, that would mean writing new code :) rexec.py, _aside_ from that two-line breakage, was just perfect for the task, assuming a level of technical ignorance by the users, which was perfectly reasonable in the circumstances where the product was deployed. l. From david at boddie.org.uk Sat Jun 19 01:57:04 2010 From: david at boddie.org.uk (David Boddie) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 01:57:04 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2010 - Call for Volunteers In-Reply-To: <201006172024.19701.david.boddie@nokia.com> References: <201006172024.19701.david.boddie@nokia.com> Message-ID: <201006190157.04911.david@boddie.org.uk> With only a month to go before EuroPython 2010, we need to start getting prepared for the task of running a conference! Right now, the Wiki page is looking a little bare, with only a few names: http://wiki.europython.eu/VolunteersByActivity In particular, we're looking for people to be session chairs to make sure that sessions run smoothly. So, if you think you're likely to attend a block of talks, why not volunteer to be the session chair for those talks. http://wiki.europython.eu/SessionTeam http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable/ Being a session chair makes you more visible to the Python community. If you are looking for a chance to be recognised by your peers and improve your social networking powers, this is the job for you. We're also looking for general helpers and people to help with the audio recording of talks. Maybe you've already registered for the conference. There are probably people who have yet to hear about it - including prospective sponsors - so publicity is still important. Please help promote the conference by reminding friends and colleagues in your workplace, user group or project community. Take a look at our publicity Wiki page for resources: http://wiki.europython.eu/Publicity David Boddie (on behalf of the organisers) From luke.leighton at gmail.com Sat Jun 19 16:01:52 2010 From: luke.leighton at gmail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:01:52 +0000 Subject: [EuroPython] little BOFs again In-Reply-To: References: <4C1B9F43.2010209@python.org> <4C1BAB36.2070709@python.org> <20100618192113.GB28437@laurie.devork.be> Message-ID: ok, so... going back to the original question, after that genuinely interesting and informative diversion: is europython going to have those informal BOF things, the ones where you fill up a board with "help needed with small programming task X" stuff? l. From ms at cerenity.org Sat Jun 19 17:37:01 2010 From: ms at cerenity.org (Michael Sparks) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 16:37:01 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] little BOFs again In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201006191637.02280.ms@cerenity.org> On Saturday 19 June 2010 15:01:52 Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > ok, so... going back to the original question, after that genuinely > interesting and informative diversion: is europython going to have > those informal BOF things, the ones where you fill up a board with > "help needed with small programming task X" stuff? There will presumably be a room (or more?) set aside as open space, and assuming that would be the place to do it IMO. Michael. From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu Sun Jun 20 13:09:26 2010 From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 13:09:26 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] little BOFs again In-Reply-To: <201006191637.02280.ms@cerenity.org> References: <201006191637.02280.ms@cerenity.org> Message-ID: Am 19.06.2010, 17:37 Uhr, schrieb Michael Sparks : > There will presumably be a room (or more?) > set aside as open space, and assuming that would be the place to do it > IMO. s/room/pub There, fixed it for you! ;-) Charlie "Real ale makes you think you can program better" A. Non -- Charlie Clark Managing Director Clark Consulting & Research German Office Helmholtzstr. 20 D?sseldorf D- 40215 Tel: +49-211-600-3657 Mobile: +49-178-782-6226 From shibata at webcore.co.jp Wed Jun 23 04:07:49 2010 From: shibata at webcore.co.jp (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPEZFRBsoQiAbJEI9XxsoQg==?=) Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 11:07:49 +0900 Subject: [EuroPython] A question about payment. Message-ID: <0EBA9100-DF7D-4DDB-A212-7071A6CEC368@webcore.co.jp> Dear EuroPython 2010 team. I would like to register EuroPython 2010 and tried to proceed payment procedure, but I was not able to complete it. When I push "Click here to pay with Debit or Credit Card" button, alert box appears saying "We need your country of origin in case it is diffent from the country of your registration address", even if I filled country field. I filled fields as following. Title* Mr First Name* Atsushi Last Name* Shibata Address 1* Sakura-shinmachi 2-5-17 1-B Address 2 Setagaya-ku Town* Tokyo County Japan Postcode* 1540015 Country* Japan Telephone* 03-5426-1909 Email* shibata at webcore.co.jp Confirm Email* shibata at webcore.co.jp Would you mind teaching me how to register from Japan ? Thanks in advance. ---------------------------------------- Atsushi Shibata (Webcore Corp.) shibata at webcore.co.jp http://www.webcore.co.jp/ ----------------------------------------