From jfine at pytex.org  Sat May  1 12:16:50 2010
From: jfine at pytex.org (Jonathan Fine)
Date: Sat, 01 May 2010 11:16:50 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] FYI: Talk submission fails with server error. Q:
	What now?
In-Reply-To: <4BDB0ABF.8000505@pytex.org>
References: <4BDB0ABF.8000505@pytex.org>
Message-ID: <4BDBFF92.5000507@pytex.org>

Jonathan Fine wrote:
> Hello
> 
> I tried to submit a talk and discussion earlier today, using the form on 
> http://www.europython.eu/submission/ but got a server error.  (Something 
> to do with not being able to find my photograph thumbnail as I recall.)
> 
> What should I do?  I have copies of the fields I filled in (kindly 
> supplied by a Django traceback!).
> 
> BTW, last weekend I submitted a tutorial and was sort of expecting an 
> acknowledgement.

Well, this morning I solved both problems.

The lack of acknowledgement was because I'd failed to fill in a required 
field and on submit I got the page back again but, as a recall, the 
required field error message was in the visible portion of the browser 
window.

I submitted my talk by supplied a new picture of myself (which was a 
copy of the old one that appeared on the submission form).

best regards


Jonathan

From paul at boddie.org.uk  Sat May  1 16:46:50 2010
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 16:46:50 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] FYI: Talk submission fails with server error. Q:
	What now?
In-Reply-To: <4BDBFF92.5000507@pytex.org>
References: <4BDB0ABF.8000505@pytex.org> <4BDBFF92.5000507@pytex.org>
Message-ID: <201005011646.50122.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Saturday 01 May 2010 12:16:50 Jonathan Fine wrote:
>
> Well, this morning I solved both problems.

Great!

> The lack of acknowledgement was because I'd failed to fill in a required
> field and on submit I got the page back again but, as a recall, the
> required field error message was in the visible portion of the browser
> window.

I can see a potential source of confusion now: maybe problems with a field 
lower down in the form were overlooked because there isn't a general error 
notification at the top of the form, only per-field notifications.

> I submitted my talk by supplied a new picture of myself (which was a
> copy of the old one that appeared on the submission form).

Good to hear that you figured it out in the end. Thanks for reporting your 
success!

Paul

From tmatias at gmail.com  Sat May  1 17:41:40 2010
From: tmatias at gmail.com (Matias Torchinsky)
Date: Sat, 1 May 2010 12:41:40 -0300
Subject: [EuroPython] (no subject)
Message-ID: <s2v56b6fda01005010841ha74c217xb90bc472c4f90f6d@mail.gmail.com>

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From cool-rr at cool-rr.com  Sun May  2 16:31:44 2010
From: cool-rr at cool-rr.com (cool-RR)
Date: Sun, 2 May 2010 16:31:44 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Hanging a poster
Message-ID: <h2za422b72d1005020731z24fa7674y825a338df00a4caa@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Unfortunately I will not be able to make it to the next EuroPython. (Flight
from Israel too expensive.)

I would be interested though in having my friend Horst Jens, who is
attending EuroPython, put up a poster about my Python project,
GarlicSim<http://garlicsim.org>.
The poster will introduce the project and show screenshots with
explanations.

Would that be acceptable?

(I will send a PDF of the poster for approval before having it printed.)

Ram Rachum.
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From kitblake at infrae.com  Mon May  3 10:23:24 2010
From: kitblake at infrae.com (Kit BLAKE)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 10:23:24 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] Reminder: 6 days left for
	EuroPython 2010 talk submissions
Message-ID: <8C844F37-97DB-4C05-AD9E-72FCFD396EC2@infrae.com>

2010/4/24 Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk>:
 > The EuroPython 2010 call for papers closes this Friday on 30th April.
 > We've already had many submissions covering Python 3, Python 2.7,
 > IronPython, Game Programming, Testing, Behavior Driven Development,
 > NoSQL, Accessiblilty and others.
 >
 > We still are looking for talks and tutorials on Django, PyPy,  
Twisted,
 > HTML5, Unladen Swallow, Testing and whatever you wish to present.
 >
 > http://www.europython.eu/submission/

Whoops, that deadline slipped by. If it's still possible to submit  
I'll do so. We'd like to do a talk about a mobile component we're  
building.

Kit


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From dalke at dalkescientific.com  Mon May  3 13:27:00 2010
From: dalke at dalkescientific.com (Andrew Dalke)
Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 13:27:00 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] GothPyCon (was: 6 days left for EuroPython 2010 talk
	submissions)
In-Reply-To: <8C844F37-97DB-4C05-AD9E-72FCFD396EC2@infrae.com>
References: <8C844F37-97DB-4C05-AD9E-72FCFD396EC2@infrae.com>
Message-ID: <7767B8CC-C37A-4A7C-88B4-09BBC09ACDDC@dalkescientific.com>

And for anyone who wants to practice their EuroPython talk, and
can come to lovely Gothenburg, Sweden, we will have GothPyCon
here on 29 May. We're looking for people to present, give a
lightning talk, run a sprint or code kata, or otherwise be
involved. Send me an email if you're interested!

 More details at 

    http://www.meetup.com/GothPy/calendar/13107391/

Vi ses!

				Andrew
				dalke at dalkescientific.com



From cool-rr at cool-rr.com  Tue May  4 13:02:01 2010
From: cool-rr at cool-rr.com (cool-RR)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 13:02:01 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Hanging a poster
In-Reply-To: <h2za422b72d1005020731z24fa7674y825a338df00a4caa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <h2za422b72d1005020731z24fa7674y825a338df00a4caa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <x2ja422b72d1005040402q386acc8ar7ad5b998b99a821f@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 4:31 PM, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Unfortunately I will not be able to make it to the next EuroPython. (Flight
> from Israel too expensive.)
>
> I would be interested though in having my friend Horst Jens, who is
> attending EuroPython, put up a poster about my Python project, GarlicSim<http://garlicsim.org>.
> The poster will introduce the project and show screenshots with
> explanations.
>
> Would that be acceptable?
>
> (I will send a PDF of the poster for approval before having it printed.)
>
> Ram Rachum.
>

Anyone?
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From chef at ghum.de  Tue May  4 13:11:05 2010
From: chef at ghum.de (Massa, Harald Armin)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 13:11:05 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Hanging a poster
In-Reply-To: <h2za422b72d1005020731z24fa7674y825a338df00a4caa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <h2za422b72d1005020731z24fa7674y825a338df00a4caa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <i2xe3e180dc1005040411s43a04a0dmac5858d476f4b5a5@mail.gmail.com>

In my opinion this would be okay.

+1

On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 16:31, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Unfortunately I will not be able to make it to the next EuroPython. (Flight
> from Israel too expensive.)
>
> I would be interested though in having my friend Horst Jens, who is
> attending EuroPython, put up a poster about my Python project, GarlicSim<http://garlicsim.org>.
> The poster will introduce the project and show screenshots with
> explanations.
>
> Would that be acceptable?
>
> (I will send a PDF of the poster for approval before having it printed.)
>
> Ram Rachum.
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 -
> http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>


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From tartley at tartley.com  Tue May  4 14:27:31 2010
From: tartley at tartley.com (Jonathan Hartley)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 13:27:31 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Hanging a poster
In-Reply-To: <i2xe3e180dc1005040411s43a04a0dmac5858d476f4b5a5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <h2za422b72d1005020731z24fa7674y825a338df00a4caa@mail.gmail.com>
	<i2xe3e180dc1005040411s43a04a0dmac5858d476f4b5a5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BE012B3.3090800@tartley.com>

Yes, it sounds not just acceptable, but positively desirable. It is of 
value to delegates. Anyone have any objections?


On 04/05/2010 12:11, Massa, Harald Armin wrote:
> In my opinion this would be okay.
>
> +1
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 16:31, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com 
> <mailto:cool-rr at cool-rr.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hello,
>
>     Unfortunately I will not be able to make it to the next
>     EuroPython. (Flight from Israel too expensive.)
>
>     I would be interested though in having my friend Horst Jens, who
>     is attending EuroPython, put up a poster about my Python project,
>     GarlicSim <http://garlicsim.org>. The poster will introduce the
>     project and show screenshots with explanations.
>
>     Would that be acceptable?
>
>     (I will send a PDF of the poster for approval before having it
>     printed.)
>
>     Ram Rachum.
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 -
>     http://www.europython2010.eu
>     EuroPython mailing list
>     EuroPython at python.org <mailto:EuroPython at python.org>
>     http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> GHUM Harald Massa
> persuadere et programmare
> Harald Armin Massa
> Spielberger Stra?e 49
> 70435 Stuttgart
> 0173/9409607
> no fx, no carrier pigeon
> -
> %s is too gigantic of an industry to bend to the whims of reality
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>    

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From funthyme at gmail.com  Tue May  4 16:03:57 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 15:03:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Hanging a poster
In-Reply-To: <4BE012B3.3090800@tartley.com>
References: <h2za422b72d1005020731z24fa7674y825a338df00a4caa@mail.gmail.com>
	<i2xe3e180dc1005040411s43a04a0dmac5858d476f4b5a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BE012B3.3090800@tartley.com>
Message-ID: <h2wff8a32f1005040703scdd29d12h8cf1eb1cb0b9083b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!

On 4 May 2010 13:27, Jonathan Hartley <tartley at tartley.com> wrote:

>  Yes, it sounds not just acceptable, but positively desirable. It is of
> value to delegates. Anyone have any objections?
>
>
>
> On 04/05/2010 12:11, Massa, Harald Armin wrote:
>
> In my opinion this would be okay.
>
>  +1
>
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 16:31, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>  Unfortunately I will not be able to make it to the next EuroPython.
>> (Flight from Israel too expensive.)
>>
>
Sorry to hear that

>
>>  I would be interested though in having my friend Horst Jens, who is
>> attending EuroPython, put up a poster about my Python project, GarlicSim<http://garlicsim.org>.
>> The poster will introduce the project and show screenshots with
>> explanations.
>>
>>  Would that be acceptable?
>>
>
Yes!

>
>>  (I will send a PDF of the poster for approval before having it printed.)
>>
>>
You could have it printed here - that would be less trouble and not reliant
on post.I can give you a contact if you wish to do this.

Best wishes

John
-- 
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Birmingham, UK
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From cool-rr at cool-rr.com  Tue May  4 16:31:24 2010
From: cool-rr at cool-rr.com (cool-RR)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 16:31:24 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Hanging a poster
In-Reply-To: <h2wff8a32f1005040703scdd29d12h8cf1eb1cb0b9083b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <h2za422b72d1005020731z24fa7674y825a338df00a4caa@mail.gmail.com>
	<i2xe3e180dc1005040411s43a04a0dmac5858d476f4b5a5@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BE012B3.3090800@tartley.com>
	<h2wff8a32f1005040703scdd29d12h8cf1eb1cb0b9083b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <m2na422b72d1005040731r80fe4f50x2e511da933e713cc@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 4:03 PM, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> On 4 May 2010 13:27, Jonathan Hartley <tartley at tartley.com> wrote:
>
>>  Yes, it sounds not just acceptable, but positively desirable. It is of
>> value to delegates. Anyone have any objections?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/05/2010 12:11, Massa, Harald Armin wrote:
>>
>> In my opinion this would be okay.
>>
>>  +1
>>
>> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 16:31, cool-RR <cool-rr at cool-rr.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>  Unfortunately I will not be able to make it to the next EuroPython.
>>> (Flight from Israel too expensive.)
>>>
>>
> Sorry to hear that
>
>>
>>>  I would be interested though in having my friend Horst Jens, who is
>>> attending EuroPython, put up a poster about my Python project, GarlicSim<http://garlicsim.org>.
>>> The poster will introduce the project and show screenshots with
>>> explanations.
>>>
>>>  Would that be acceptable?
>>>
>>
> Yes!
>
>>
>>>  (I will send a PDF of the poster for approval before having it
>>> printed.)
>>>
>>>
> You could have it printed here - that would be less trouble and not reliant
> on post.I can give you a contact if you wish to do this.
>
> Best wishes
>
> John
>

That would be great. When the time comes I'll send you the PDF for approval,
and then you could give me the contact for printing. You may email me the
total of the printing costs and I'll paypal it to you.

Ram.
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From michael.brunton-spall at guardian.co.uk  Wed May  5 15:58:23 2010
From: michael.brunton-spall at guardian.co.uk (Michael Brunton-Spall)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 14:58:23 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission fails with 403 Forbidden - CSRF
	verification failed
Message-ID: <t2wa9d1bce11005050658s2643872ek24387594e563f42e@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

Submitting my talk proposal via Google Chrome, and I'm getting a 403
Forbidden and the standard Django CSRF token failure error.

Is this a known issue?

Michael Brunton-Spall

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From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu May  6 10:25:20 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 09:25:20 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission fails with 403 Forbidden - CSRF
	verification failed
In-Reply-To: <t2wa9d1bce11005050658s2643872ek24387594e563f42e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2wa9d1bce11005050658s2643872ek24387594e563f42e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <l2rff8a32f1005060125yaff7161ax23d9d2d2baf7fe92@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Michael,

On 5 May 2010 14:58, Michael Brunton-Spall <
michael.brunton-spall at guardian.co.uk> wrote:

> Hey,
>
> Submitting my talk proposal via Google Chrome, and I'm getting a 403
> Forbidden and the standard Django CSRF token failure error.
>
> Is this a known issue?
>
> Yes, and Zeth has fixed it. Caught by a Django update.

Please try again.

Best wishes,

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From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Thu May  6 11:50:04 2010
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 11:50:04 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Reminder: 6 days left for EuroPython 2010 talk
 submissions
In-Reply-To: <u2r425e93af1004240820w7c1b44f3l826dfa9f9fd75760@mail.gmail.com>
References: <u2r425e93af1004240820w7c1b44f3l826dfa9f9fd75760@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <op.vb92xqaa5mynk9@fuchsia.local>

Am 24.04.2010, 17:20 Uhr, schrieb Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk>:

> We still are looking for talks and tutorials on Django, PyPy, Twisted,
> HTML5, Unladen Swallow, Testing and whatever you wish to present.

FWIW I am still waiting to hear back on my submission (30th March) on BFG.

Charlie Clark
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From andreas.kaempf at soundience.com  Thu May  6 19:10:57 2010
From: andreas.kaempf at soundience.com (Andreas Kaempf)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 18:10:57 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conflicting conference dates on web site
Message-ID: <20100506181057.36345d36.andreas.kaempf@soundience.com>

The EuroPython home page http://www.europython.eu says the conference
dates are 19-22 July (4 days), but clicking on the "Conference" link
takes you to http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable which shows the
conference finishing on 21 July (3 days).

Could anyone please clarify whether the conference finishes on the 21st
or 22nd? Last year it was 3 days, which would suggest the 21st.

Thanks,

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From rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk  Thu May  6 20:06:21 2010
From: rjt-pyconuk at thegrindstone.me.uk (Richard Taylor)
Date: Thu, 06 May 2010 19:06:21 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Conflicting conference dates on web site
In-Reply-To: <20100506181057.36345d36.andreas.kaempf@soundience.com>
References: <20100506181057.36345d36.andreas.kaempf@soundience.com>
Message-ID: <4BE3051D.20303@thegrindstone.me.uk>

The timetable is still in development.

It is my understanding that the conference is 4 days and the home page
is correct.

Richard


On 06/05/2010 18:10, Andreas Kaempf wrote:
> The EuroPython home page http://www.europython.eu says the conference
> dates are 19-22 July (4 days), but clicking on the "Conference" link
> takes you to http://www.europython.eu/talks/timetable which shows the
> conference finishing on 21 July (3 days).
> 
> Could anyone please clarify whether the conference finishes on the 21st
> or 22nd? Last year it was 3 days, which would suggest the 21st.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andreas Kaempf
> 
> 
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> _______________________________________________
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> EuroPython mailing list
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> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> 
> 
> 


From paul at boddie.org.uk  Thu May  6 21:45:28 2010
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 21:45:28 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission problems (was Re: Reminder: 6 days
	left for EuroPython 2010 talk submissions)
In-Reply-To: <op.vb92xqaa5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
References: <u2r425e93af1004240820w7c1b44f3l826dfa9f9fd75760@mail.gmail.com>
	<op.vb92xqaa5mynk9@fuchsia.local>
Message-ID: <201005062145.28617.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Thursday 06 May 2010 11:50:04 Charlie Clark wrote:
> Am 24.04.2010, 17:20 Uhr, schrieb Alex Willmer <alex at moreati.org.uk>:
> > We still are looking for talks and tutorials on Django, PyPy, Twisted,
> > HTML5, Unladen Swallow, Testing and whatever you wish to present.
>
> FWIW I am still waiting to hear back on my submission (30th March) on BFG.

The two crucial questions:

1. Did you get a page thanking you for your talk and telling you that it had 
sent you a mail?

2. Did you receive a mail? ;-)

If the answer to the first question is "no", it's possible that the talk 
submissions system didn't tell you noticeably enough about something it 
didn't like about your submission. It's obviously unfortunate that a 
misunderstanding was thereby created, but I think the talks/schedule 
organisers are happy to accept submissions that are sent again.

If the answer to the second question is "no", but was "yes" for the first 
question, it is hopefully the case that your submission has been registered, 
but someone will have to confirm this.

Paul

P.S. I did make some semi-unauthorised changes to the submissions system to 
make error messages more noticeable, but I don't have the Django "mojo" to 
start re-architecting the code, sadly.

From paul at boddie.org.uk  Fri May  7 00:51:37 2010
From: paul at boddie.org.uk (Paul Boddie)
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 00:51:37 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Conflicting conference dates on web site
In-Reply-To: <4BE3051D.20303@thegrindstone.me.uk>
References: <20100506181057.36345d36.andreas.kaempf@soundience.com>
	<4BE3051D.20303@thegrindstone.me.uk>
Message-ID: <201005070051.37903.paul@boddie.org.uk>

On Thursday 06 May 2010 20:06:21 Richard Taylor wrote:
> The timetable is still in development.
>
> It is my understanding that the conference is 4 days and the home page
> is correct.

I've "fixed" this on the timetable page for now, although any details of the 
conference days themselves are subject to change, particularly as the 
timetable hasn't been published yet. ;-)

Paul

From michael.brunton-spall at guardian.co.uk  Sun May  9 13:20:02 2010
From: michael.brunton-spall at guardian.co.uk (Michael Brunton-Spall)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 12:20:02 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission fails with 403 Forbidden - CSRF
	verification failed
In-Reply-To: <l2rff8a32f1005060125yaff7161ax23d9d2d2baf7fe92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2wa9d1bce11005050658s2643872ek24387594e563f42e@mail.gmail.com>
	<l2rff8a32f1005060125yaff7161ax23d9d2d2baf7fe92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikewEdXfKDGGT9DgSuaEGMzyipWp887vSVxl9GD@mail.gmail.com>

I got another problem submitting because my old photo wasn't valid or
something, but I added a new photo and it accepted them fine.

I've submitted two talks because I'm not sure which would be more
interesting.  I assume it's generally not accepted for a speaker to speak
twice, so you can pick just the one that you prefer.

Also you should turn DEBUG off in production otherwise when people get an
error they see the stack dump and everything :)

Michael

On 6 May 2010 09:25, John Pinner <funthyme at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Michael,
>
> On 5 May 2010 14:58, Michael Brunton-Spall <
> michael.brunton-spall at guardian.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> Submitting my talk proposal via Google Chrome, and I'm getting a 403
>> Forbidden and the standard Django CSRF token failure error.
>>
>> Is this a known issue?
>>
>> Yes, and Zeth has fixed it. Caught by a Django update.
>
> Please try again.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> John
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From funthyme at gmail.com  Sun May  9 13:35:59 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 12:35:59 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk submission fails with 403 Forbidden - CSRF
	verification failed
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikewEdXfKDGGT9DgSuaEGMzyipWp887vSVxl9GD@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2wa9d1bce11005050658s2643872ek24387594e563f42e@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTimWCyYbZ_FmgH3yk2CMsypjmJIEKpOqOKar9iLR@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

On 9 May 2010 12:20, Michael Brunton-Spall <
michael.brunton-spall at guardian.co.uk> wrote:

> I got another problem submitting because my old photo wasn't valid or
> something, but I added a new photo and it accepted them fine.
>
> Interesting, we got the talk twice!


> I've submitted two talks because I'm not sure which would be more
> interesting.  I assume it's generally not accepted for a speaker to speak
> twice, so you can pick just the one that you prefer.
>
> NO, there's nothing wrong in speakers having multiple talks. I think the
record is held by Raymond Hettinger, with 4, all good, you wouldn't want to
have missed any of them.


Also you should turn DEBUG off in production otherwise when people get an
> error they see the stack dump and everything :)
>

I'm sure you're right, but I'll leave that to those responsible. I think
it's a reflection of using an unstable framework.

Best wishes,

John
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From tony at tonyibbs.co.uk  Wed May 12 20:47:37 2010
From: tony at tonyibbs.co.uk (Tony Ibbs)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 19:47:37 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Confirmation date for talks?
Message-ID: <E2469726-D28C-43E1-8A48-A014281C1ABD@tonyibbs.co.uk>

When will you be telling people if submitted talks are accepted or not? I know the conference is still a little way off, but the more time to prepare the better (or not, if that's the case).

Apologies if this information is on the EuroPython2010 website, but I haven't been able to see it.

Tibs / Tony Ibbs (and on behalf or Richard Watts as well)


From theology at gmail.com  Thu May 13 00:52:08 2010
From: theology at gmail.com (Zeth)
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 23:52:08 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Confirmation date for talks?
In-Reply-To: <E2469726-D28C-43E1-8A48-A014281C1ABD@tonyibbs.co.uk>
References: <E2469726-D28C-43E1-8A48-A014281C1ABD@tonyibbs.co.uk>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilS-6CuzdEkXzEYY_eKuTHN5i-PHC0zMTiiBqN3@mail.gmail.com>

On 12 May 2010 19:47, Tony Ibbs <tony at tonyibbs.co.uk> wrote:
> When will you be telling people if submitted talks are accepted or not? I know the conference is still a little way off, but the more time to prepare the better (or not, if that's the case).
>
> Apologies if this information is on the EuroPython2010 website, but I haven't been able to see it.
>
> Tibs / Tony Ibbs (and on behalf or Richard Watts as well)

Hi Tibs, most of the talks have been accepted or not within the
system, we are slowly communicating to people, but it takes time since
there are a lot of talks that have been submitted.

BTW, "Muddle, inventing a build sys" and "KBUS:A simple messaging
system" were both accepted.

Best Wishes,
Zeth

From ag at gocept.com  Mon May 17 10:48:29 2010
From: ag at gocept.com (Andrea Glodek)
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 08:48:29 -0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Cancelation of Ref: RC7357951 and Ref: RC7325540,
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From svydelingum at gmail.com  Tue May 18 11:29:54 2010
From: svydelingum at gmail.com (Savyn Vydelingum)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:29:54 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Beginner Python
Message-ID: <AANLkTimIjpWb2ARsi_OlHOncZi_q2AMqLJWH-HQMh9eQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello I would like to attend the Euro Python in Birming in July and notice
you have Tutorial.  Can you let me know if these Tutorials are good for
novice/beginner.  I started learning python but I do not have any
programming background.
Please let me know if suitable for me

Regards
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From chef at ghum.de  Tue May 18 23:20:53 2010
From: chef at ghum.de (Massa, Harald Armin)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 23:20:53 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] offer of a very interesting talk (not by me) just some
	days to late ...
Message-ID: <AANLkTilftW--ZNK3Jl7himKZwDfcXamSB4Cn4O5kYCbD@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Europythoneers,

while researching presentation technolgy, I stumbled upon JessyInk.

JessyInk is some extension, programmed in Python, to Inkscape; to create
.SVG -Files which are presentations. It was rightfully compared to prezi,
but is a) using standard as SVG and Javascript, is b) created in Python and
c) available under an open source licence.

Since some days I am in contact with Hannes Hochreiner, the initial and lead
developer of JessyInk. I asked him about his willingness to give a
presentation about this fascinating technologie; especially about extending
Inkscape via Python.

Today he was able to offer to give a talk on either monday or tuesday of
EuroPython (as he was able to arrange with his employer)

I know, it is to late, talks are allready scheduled, and he would only be
available to be scheduled on 2 of the 3 days. On the other hand I know that
in all the previous EP there were some ... after closing cancelation of
talks by their offerers.

So my question to all EuroPythoneers and especially the schedulers: Are we
interested in having Hannes "slip in" somewhere on monday or tuesday; or
shall I negotiate with him to come to Florence in 2011?

Harald
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From luke.leighton at googlemail.com  Wed May 19 14:24:03 2010
From: luke.leighton at googlemail.com (Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 12:24:03 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] room sharing
Message-ID: <AANLkTikWvnn5ChGMgmjaSUWp6OeTh-ATUjZKC2NNhTR7@mail.gmail.com>

is anyone up for room or other accommodation sharing / offers of (*),
for the duration of the conference? if so what dates?

l.

(*) _suitable_ accommodation.  i.e. excluding cardboard boxes under
bridges or trees.  tree-houses are ok, though.

From general.mooney at googlemail.com  Wed May 19 15:38:22 2010
From: general.mooney at googlemail.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Ciar=C3=A1n_Mooney?=)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 14:38:22 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] room sharing
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikWvnn5ChGMgmjaSUWp6OeTh-ATUjZKC2NNhTR7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTikWvnn5ChGMgmjaSUWp6OeTh-ATUjZKC2NNhTR7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTin8EYce9cqZZN7shOBJFLJMJ-hTGORggG49MP2j@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

There is already a wiki page for those who wish to share.

http://wiki.europython.eu/RoomSharing

I suggest you contact them.

Ciar?n

ps. Doesn't seem to be any treehouses though.

From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu May 20 13:40:32 2010
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 12:40:32 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Beginner Python
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimIjpWb2ARsi_OlHOncZi_q2AMqLJWH-HQMh9eQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimIjpWb2ARsi_OlHOncZi_q2AMqLJWH-HQMh9eQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikqs9fgJr18r3wXGqBaDiIEHYD2FFfAih1sxfWL@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Savyn,

On 18 May 2010 10:29, Savyn Vydelingum <svydelingum at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello I would like to attend the Euro Python in Birming in July and notice
> you have Tutorial.  Can you let me know if these Tutorials are good for
> novice/beginner.
>

Some of the tutorials are for beginners, some for more experienced people.
The talk abstracts will say what the intended audience is, for example at

http://europython.eu/talks.talk_abstracts#talk10

When we schedule the talks, we will try and put the beginners' tutorials on
day 1 of the two tutorial days.

  I started learning python but I do not have any programming background.
> Please let me know if suitable for me
>

Several of the tutorials should be suitable for you.

best wishes,

John
-- 
EuroPython is coming! - http://www.europython.eu - 17th-24th July 2010,
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From ekoval at lohika.com  Fri May 28 11:37:47 2010
From: ekoval at lohika.com (Eugene Koval)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 12:37:47 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: EuroPython 2010 Confirmation Email for order
	ref: RC7376138]
Message-ID: <1275039467.32642.1.camel@ekoval>

Hi !
I'm from Ukraine, and I have to get UK visa to go to the EuroPython
conference. So, I need some kind of invitation to the conference. Do you
know if the confirmation email (see attachment) will be enough for
this ? Or
may be I'll need some more official (may be paper) document for this ?

Thanks !

Eugene Koval

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From mykola.luciuk at gmail.com  Fri May 28 13:24:15 2010
From: mykola.luciuk at gmail.com (Mykola Luciuk)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 14:24:15 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: EuroPython 2010 Confirmation Email for order
	ref: RC7376138]
In-Reply-To: <1275039467.32642.1.camel@ekoval>
References: <1275039467.32642.1.camel@ekoval>
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Hey, Eugene!

I filed for UK visa to attend Europython last year. Unfortunately, I was
refused, but not because of confirmation documents, it was about proving I'm
not going to stay in UK after conference and marry a local girl or something
like that. ;) ?? ????? ???????, ?? ? ?? ???????.))) Anyway, I asked around
and some executive at the VAC told me I needed something more substantial
than an email printout, so I asked John Pinner to send me a signed
invitation by snail mail, which he kindly did. I don't remember whether
there was a seal on it or not, but it would certainly help if there was.
Letter arrived in approximately 10 days, IIRC.

Good luck with your application!

Best regards,
Mykola Lutsiuk.

2010/5/28 Eugene Koval <ekoval at lohika.com>

> Hi !
> I'm from Ukraine, and I have to get UK visa to go to the EuroPython
> conference. So, I need some kind of invitation to the conference. Do you
> know if the confirmation email (see attachment) will be enough for
> this ? Or
> may be I'll need some more official (may be paper) document for this ?
>
> Thanks !
>
> Eugene Koval
>
>
>
> ---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ----------
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> To: Evgen Koval <EKoval at lohika.com>
> Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:06:55 +0300
> Subject: EuroPython 2010 Confirmation Email for order ref: RC7376138
> *Registration Ticket*
>
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From ekoval at lohika.com  Fri May 28 15:14:26 2010
From: ekoval at lohika.com (Eugene Koval)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 16:14:26 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: EuroPython 2010 Confirmation Email for order
 ref: RC7376138]
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Message-ID: <1275052466.32642.4.camel@ekoval>

Hi Mykola !
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience ! 
The problem is that I have no idea whom to ask for this "snail
invitation". May be you can tell me ?

Eugene

On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 14:24 +0300, Mykola Luciuk wrote:
> Hey, Eugene!
> 
> I filed for UK visa to attend Europython last year. Unfortunately, I
> was refused, but not because of confirmation documents, it was about
> proving I'm not going to stay in UK after conference and marry a local
> girl or something like that. ;) ?? ????? ???????, ?? ? ?? ???????.)))
> Anyway, I asked around and some executive at the VAC told me I needed
> something more substantial than an email printout, so I asked John
> Pinner to send me a signed invitation by snail mail, which he kindly
> did. I don't remember whether there was a seal on it or not, but it
> would certainly help if there was. Letter arrived in approximately 10
> days, IIRC.
> 
> Good luck with your application!
> 
> Best regards,
> Mykola Lutsiuk.
> 
> 2010/5/28 Eugene Koval <ekoval at lohika.com>
>         Hi !
>         I'm from Ukraine, and I have to get UK visa to go to the
>         EuroPython
>         conference. So, I need some kind of invitation to the
>         conference. Do you
>         know if the confirmation email (see attachment) will be enough
>         for
>         this ? Or
>         may be I'll need some more official (may be paper) document
>         for this ?
>         
>         Thanks !
>         
>         Eugene Koval
>         
>         
>         
>         ---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ----------
>         From: EuroPython 2010 Registration <vanessa at clocksoft.com>
>         To: Evgen Koval <EKoval at lohika.com>
>         Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:06:55 +0300
>         Subject: EuroPython 2010 Confirmation Email for order ref:
>         RC7376138
>                                  Registration
>                                    Ticket 
>                                        
>                                        
>                                        
>                                EuroPython 2010
>                                   Thank you,
>                                  payment for
>                                 your order has
>                                 been accepted.
>                                        
>                                   Item Name
>                                       Quantity
>                                          Price
>                                          Total
>                                  Delegate to
>                                EuroPython 2010
>                                  17th July -
>                                   22nd July
>                                  (Early Bird,
>                                Omnivore, Large
>                                      Tee)
>                                           1
>                                        ?145.00
>                                        ?145.00
>                                        
>                                _______________
>                                        
>                                    Subtotal
>                                        ?145.00
>                                 Payment method
>                                  is 'Debit or
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>                                        
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>                                        Email
>                               ekoval at lohika.com
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>         _______________________________________________
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> 

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Phone: +380674102386
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From mykola.luciuk at gmail.com  Fri May 28 16:53:54 2010
From: mykola.luciuk at gmail.com (Mykola Luciuk)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 17:53:54 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: EuroPython 2010 Confirmation Email for order
	ref: RC7376138]
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2010/5/28 Eugene Koval <ekoval at lohika.com>

> Hi Mykola !
> Thanks a lot for sharing your experience !
> The problem is that I have no idea whom to ask for this "snail
> invitation".
>

"Snail mail" is ordinary paper mail, not email. =) As slow as a snail, can't
compete with email. )


> May be you can tell me ?
>

I was communicating with John Pinner (funthyme at gmail.com) and Laura
Creighton (lac at openend.se). They were very helpful and cooperative, real
pleasure to deal with. John sent me an official invitation by The PyCon UK
Society (which you have to put as a receiving party in your application
form, by the way).

If it helps you in any way, I can give you the list of the documents I
filed, just for reference. They don't publish a list of necessary documents
at the VAC (as opposed to Schengen-zone embassies), just vague guidelines,
which is stupid, because it makes it harder for you to collect them, plus
makes it easier for them to refuse clearance by ignoring supplied evidence,
etc, and then basically you're paying USD100 to input your fingerprints and
other biometrics into some obscure database you have no influence on. But
enough ranting, here's the list:

   - passport (international, of course)
   - photo
   - don't forget about the payment
   - printed application form and appointment confirmation
   - aviatickets (I bought them at WizzAir by bank transfer, so I just
   printed out an email and attached a copy of bank transfer order, ????????
   ?????????)
   - europython ticket (email printout)
   - europython invitation (received from John by paper mail)
   - europython invoice (also by paper mail, it had signature and seal)
   - for some reason they refused to accept medical insurance (as
   Schengen-zone requires)
   - I am self-employed, so my financial documents (the alleged reason for
   refusal, although I successfully received Schengen visa with the same
   documents) were as follows:
      - ????????? ??? ?????????? ???'???? ??????????????? ??????????
      - ????????? ????? ?? ??? ????????? ????????
      - ??????? ? ??????????? ???????? ?? ???


One more thing - my friend (Alexey Popravka) filed for a visa last year as
well, and was refused for a really ridiculous reason, so we notified John,
he probably contacted the authorities about this, and VAC reviewed their
decision towards Alexey.

But don't let those difficulties discourage you, I think you should try it
anyway. Feel free to contact me if you have any further questions. Other
than that, I highly recommend asking John Pinner for assistance.

Best regards,
Mykola Lutsiuk.


> Eugene
>
> On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 14:24 +0300, Mykola Luciuk wrote:
> > Hey, Eugene!
> >
> > I filed for UK visa to attend Europython last year. Unfortunately, I
> > was refused, but not because of confirmation documents, it was about
> > proving I'm not going to stay in UK after conference and marry a local
> > girl or something like that. ;) ?? ????? ???????, ?? ? ?? ???????.)))
> > Anyway, I asked around and some executive at the VAC told me I needed
> > something more substantial than an email printout, so I asked John
> > Pinner to send me a signed invitation by snail mail, which he kindly
> > did. I don't remember whether there was a seal on it or not, but it
> > would certainly help if there was. Letter arrived in approximately 10
> > days, IIRC.
> >
> > Good luck with your application!
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Mykola Lutsiuk.
> >
> > 2010/5/28 Eugene Koval <ekoval at lohika.com>
> >         Hi !
> >         I'm from Ukraine, and I have to get UK visa to go to the
> >         EuroPython
> >         conference. So, I need some kind of invitation to the
> >         conference. Do you
> >         know if the confirmation email (see attachment) will be enough
> >         for
> >         this ? Or
> >         may be I'll need some more official (may be paper) document
> >         for this ?
> >
> >         Thanks !
> >
> >         Eugene Koval
> >
> >
> >
> >         ---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ----------
> >         From: EuroPython 2010 Registration <vanessa at clocksoft.com>
> >         To: Evgen Koval <EKoval at lohika.com>
> >         Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:06:55 +0300
> >         Subject: EuroPython 2010 Confirmation Email for order ref:
> >         RC7376138
> >                                  Registration
> >                                    Ticket
> >
> >
> >
> >                                EuroPython 2010
> >                                   Thank you,
> >                                  payment for
> >                                 your order has
> >                                 been accepted.
> >
> >                                   Item Name
> >                                       Quantity
> >                                          Price
> >                                          Total
> >                                  Delegate to
> >                                EuroPython 2010
> >                                  17th July -
> >                                   22nd July
> >                                  (Early Bird,
> >                                Omnivore, Large
> >                                      Tee)
> >                                           1
> >                                        ?145.00
> >                                        ?145.00
> >
> >                                _______________
> >
> >                                    Subtotal
> >                                        ?145.00
> >                                 Payment method
> >                                  is 'Debit or
> >                                  Credit Card'
> >
> >                                _______________
> >                                    Currency
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> >
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> >
> >                                        Title
> >                                          Mr
> >                                        First
> >                                        Name
> >                                        Koval
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> >                                     Yevgeniy
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> >                                        Email
> >                               ekoval at lohika.com
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> >                                        skill
> >                                        with
> >                                     Python ?
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> >                                 Maybrook Road,
> >                                     Sutton
> >                                Coldfield, West
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> >                                  1AL, UNITED
> >                                 KINGDOM, 0121
> >                                    313 3850
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> >                                _______________
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From popravich at gmail.com  Fri May 28 17:24:11 2010
From: popravich at gmail.com (Alexey Popravka)
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 18:24:11 +0300
Subject: [EuroPython] [Fwd: EuroPython 2010 Confirmation Email for order
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Hi Eugene, Mykola,

Eugene,
I've attended EuroPython last year, but the visa was real pain in the... 
problem.
In fact, Mykola and I we planed to go there together and only I had a luck.

I will email with my thoughts on what you could do to get better chances 
of getting the visa.
You will really need a great luck.

Kind regards,

Alexey Popravka

28.05.2010 14:24, Mykola Luciuk:
> Hey, Eugene!
>
> I filed for UK visa to attend Europython last year. Unfortunately, I 
> was refused, but not because of confirmation documents, it was about 
> proving I'm not going to stay in UK after conference and marry a local 
> girl or something like that. ;) ?? ????? ???????, ?? ? ?? ???????.))) 
> Anyway, I asked around and some executive at the VAC told me I needed 
> something more substantial than an email printout, so I asked John 
> Pinner to send me a signed invitation by snail mail, which he kindly 
> did. I don't remember whether there was a seal on it or not, but it 
> would certainly help if there was. Letter arrived in approximately 10 
> days, IIRC.
>
> Good luck with your application!
>
> Best regards,
> Mykola Lutsiuk.
>
> 2010/5/28 Eugene Koval <ekoval at lohika.com <mailto:ekoval at lohika.com>>
>
>     Hi !
>     I'm from Ukraine, and I have to get UK visa to go to the EuroPython
>     conference. So, I need some kind of invitation to the conference.
>     Do you
>     know if the confirmation email (see attachment) will be enough for
>     this ? Or
>     may be I'll need some more official (may be paper) document for this ?
>
>     Thanks !
>
>     Eugene Koval
>
>
>
>     ---------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ----------
>     From: EuroPython 2010 Registration <vanessa at clocksoft.com
>     <mailto:vanessa at clocksoft.com>>
>     To: Evgen Koval <EKoval at lohika.com <mailto:EKoval at lohika.com>>
>     Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 17:06:55 +0300
>     Subject: EuroPython 2010 Confirmation Email for order ref: RC7376138
>     *Registration Ticket*
>
>     *EuroPython 2010*
>     *Thank you, payment for your order has been accepted.*
>     *Item Name* 	*Quantity* 	*Price* 	*Total*
>     Delegate to EuroPython 2010 17th July - 22nd July (Early Bird,
>     Omnivore, Large Tee) 	1 	?145.00 	?145.00
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     	*Subtotal* 	?145.00
>     Payment method is 'Debit or Credit Card' 	
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Currency is British Pound 	*Total* 	?145.00
>     Your details are shown below for order ref: RC7376138
>     Title 	Mr
>     First Name 	Koval
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>     Town 	Lviv
>     County 	Lviv region
>     Postcode 	79039
>     Country 	UKRAINE
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>     Email 	ekoval at lohika.com <mailto:ekoval at lohika.com>
>     What is your level of skill with Python ? 	
>     Experienced
>     Please enter your IRC nickname 	
>     Please enter your country of origin 	
>     Ukraine
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