From fabio.pliger at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 04:27:09 2011
From: fabio.pliger at gmail.com (Fabio Pliger)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 04:27:09 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 - Call for Volunteers
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>

As many of you may know Europython 2011 will take place in Florence - Italy,
from 19 to 24 of June. Europython is a comunity conference runned
volunteers. We have started working to make the Europython 2011 an amazing
conference but we need help from well motivated pythonistas from the
community to make it real. The main activities for volunteers will be needed
in june, when running the conference but still we also need some help now in
order to prepare and develop better services to deploy before and during the
conference.

Right now we need volunteers to help us with the following activities:

   - *mobile apps development:* If you are a developer help help us creating
   nice applications for the conference!
   - *site reviewers:* we need english native speaking helpers to review the
   website content
   - *sponsorships headhunters:* if you know a potential sponsor let us
   know! Europython happens thanks to sponsors! More sponsors means a better
   conference.

      but when we'll get closer to the conference we'll also need help with
      other activities like:
      - session chairs
         - bags and gadgets packaging
         - audio/video recordings
         - general help
         - ...

      Helping Europython to be a great conference is a big help for the
      python community and gives you chance to meet many folks inside it. The
      community will recognise and appreciate your help!

      Please contact us on chat at the official conference
website<http://ep2011.europython.eu/> or
      the europython and europython-improve mailing lists

      Stay tuned on this blog, on the official twitter
account<http://twitter.com/europython> and
      subscribe to the feeds!
      - Fabio Pliger ( on behalf of the organizers )
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From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Thu Jan 27 07:30:39 2011
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 07:30:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 - Call for Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1296109839.4919.10.camel@x300>

Hi Fabio,

> but we need help from well motivated pythonistas from the community to
> make it real.

What I can offer is help with setting up / configuring / hosting a
MoinMoin-based conference (and/or organizers) wiki, if needed.

The 2009 and 2010 wikis ran on John Pinner's server, but I didn't see a
2011 wiki there. If you have your own server, we could also host it
there or on a machine from me, if you prefer.

> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

I guess that footer needs updating.

Cheers, Thomas



From lvh at laurensvh.be  Thu Jan 27 11:40:28 2011
From: lvh at laurensvh.be (Laurens Van Houtven)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:40:28 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] EuroPython 2011 - Call for
	Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimThSB1+DBtGrcJZorUkPyBer-PCUPcnv4Ri3re@mail.gmail.com>

I can review the website for you. Do you have a preferred format for
fixes/notes?


cheers
lvh

From fabio.pliger at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 12:05:04 2011
From: fabio.pliger at gmail.com (Fabio Pliger)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:05:04 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] EuroPython 2011 - Call for
	Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimThSB1+DBtGrcJZorUkPyBer-PCUPcnv4Ri3re@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimThSB1+DBtGrcJZorUkPyBer-PCUPcnv4Ri3re@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=rU84K5G8BMm4Ngz9f776RptMFcqo9=mgO6-p8@mail.gmail.com>

2011/1/27 Laurens Van Houtven <lvh at laurensvh.be>

> I can review the website for you. Do you have a preferred format for
> fixes/notes?
>

I think the format: URL + wrong text + corrected version
would be the best.

thanks!
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From rasky at develer.com  Thu Jan 27 12:45:25 2011
From: rasky at develer.com (Giovanni Bajo)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:45:25 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] EuroPython 2011 - Call for
 Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimThSB1+DBtGrcJZorUkPyBer-PCUPcnv4Ri3re@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimThSB1+DBtGrcJZorUkPyBer-PCUPcnv4Ri3re@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1296128725.3373.10.camel@lilax>

On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 11:40 +0100, Laurens Van Houtven wrote:
> I can review the website for you. Do you have a preferred format for
> fixes/notes?

We're also going to publish a few more pages today, so thank you very
much for the review.

I think the preferred format would be "direct bugfixing" :) We can give
you (and every other reviewer) access to the CMS backend (which is
django-pages-cms), if you feel like so. If it's too trouble for you,
then a text version as suggested by Fabio is fine.

Thanks!
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From oisin.mulvihill at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 13:30:27 2011
From: oisin.mulvihill at gmail.com (Oisin Mulvihill)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:30:27 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 - Call for Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTim=YWKEKrHyLv8oY+FNu5OHFB8ixR0BBzkqZw9a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Fabio,

I could help with site review and do an android app. I've been looking
for an project to make an app for. What do you have in mind?

All the best,

Oisin

On 27 January 2011 03:27, Fabio Pliger <fabio.pliger at gmail.com> wrote:
> As many of you may know Europython 2011 will take place in Florence - Italy,
> from 19 to 24 of June. Europython is a comunity conference runned
> volunteers. We have started working to make the Europython 2011 an amazing
> conference but we need help from well motivated pythonistas from the
> community to make it real. The main activities for volunteers will be needed
> in june, when running the conference but still we also need some help now in
> order to prepare and develop better services to deploy before and during the
> conference.
>
> Right now we need volunteers to help us with the following activities:
>
> mobile apps development:?If you are a developer help help us creating nice
> applications for the conference!
> site reviewers:?we need english native speaking helpers to review the
> website content
> sponsorships headhunters:?if you know a potential sponsor let us know!
> Europython happens thanks to sponsors! More sponsors means a better
> conference.
>
> but when we'll get closer to the conference we'll also need help with other
> activities like:
>
> session chairs
> bags and gadgets packaging
> audio/video recordings
> general help
> ...
>
> Helping Europython to be a great conference is a big help for the python
> community and gives you chance to meet many folks inside it. The community
> will recognise and appreciate your help!
>
> Please contact us on chat?at the official conference website?or the
> europython and europython-improve mailing lists
>
> Stay tuned on this blog, on the official?twitter account?and subscribe to
> the feeds!
>
> Fabio Pliger ( on behalf of the organizers )
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>

From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Thu Jan 27 14:05:18 2011
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:05:18 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] can we discuss on ONE mailing list,
 please? (was: call for volunteers)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim=YWKEKrHyLv8oY+FNu5OHFB8ixR0BBzkqZw9a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim=YWKEKrHyLv8oY+FNu5OHFB8ixR0BBzkqZw9a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1296133518.5545.6.camel@x300>

Could we please decide on ONE mailing list for this topic?

(I don't have ep-improve - is it even necessary to have 2 MLs?)



From fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk  Thu Jan 27 14:17:44 2011
From: fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk (Michael Foord)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:17:44 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] can we discuss on ONE mailing
	list, please?
In-Reply-To: <1296133518.5545.6.camel@x300>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>	<AANLkTim=YWKEKrHyLv8oY+FNu5OHFB8ixR0BBzkqZw9a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1296133518.5545.6.camel@x300>
Message-ID: <4D417078.5030400@voidspace.org.uk>

On 27/01/2011 13:05, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
> Could we please decide on ONE mailing list for this topic?
>
> (I don't have ep-improve - is it even necessary to have 2 MLs?)

Agreed, two copies of each email is tedious. :-)

Michael

>
> _______________________________________________
> Europython-improve mailing list
> Europython-improve at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve


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From iamntmartin at googlemail.com  Thu Jan 27 14:19:45 2011
From: iamntmartin at googlemail.com (Nick Martin)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:19:45 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 - Call for Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim=YWKEKrHyLv8oY+FNu5OHFB8ixR0BBzkqZw9a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim=YWKEKrHyLv8oY+FNu5OHFB8ixR0BBzkqZw9a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <311075E0-5323-49E4-BD70-DA12AEAEE4F0@gmail.com>

Hi,

I'd quite like to have a bash at making an iPhone app for this. Fabio could you let Oisin and myself know what you have in mind?

Thanks

Nick

On 27 Jan 2011, at 12:30, Oisin Mulvihill wrote:

> Hi Fabio,
> 
> I could help with site review and do an android app. I've been looking
> for an project to make an app for. What do you have in mind?
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Oisin
> 
> On 27 January 2011 03:27, Fabio Pliger <fabio.pliger at gmail.com> wrote:
>> As many of you may know Europython 2011 will take place in Florence - Italy,
>> from 19 to 24 of June. Europython is a comunity conference runned
>> volunteers. We have started working to make the Europython 2011 an amazing
>> conference but we need help from well motivated pythonistas from the
>> community to make it real. The main activities for volunteers will be needed
>> in june, when running the conference but still we also need some help now in
>> order to prepare and develop better services to deploy before and during the
>> conference.
>> 
>> Right now we need volunteers to help us with the following activities:
>> 
>> mobile apps development: If you are a developer help help us creating nice
>> applications for the conference!
>> site reviewers: we need english native speaking helpers to review the
>> website content
>> sponsorships headhunters: if you know a potential sponsor let us know!
>> Europython happens thanks to sponsors! More sponsors means a better
>> conference.
>> 
>> but when we'll get closer to the conference we'll also need help with other
>> activities like:
>> 
>> session chairs
>> bags and gadgets packaging
>> audio/video recordings
>> general help
>> ...
>> 
>> Helping Europython to be a great conference is a big help for the python
>> community and gives you chance to meet many folks inside it. The community
>> will recognise and appreciate your help!
>> 
>> Please contact us on chat at the official conference website or the
>> europython and europython-improve mailing lists
>> 
>> Stay tuned on this blog, on the official twitter account and subscribe to
>> the feeds!
>> 
>> Fabio Pliger ( on behalf of the organizers )
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>> 
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython



From sheep at sheep.art.pl  Thu Jan 27 14:21:12 2011
From: sheep at sheep.art.pl (Radomir Dopieralski)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:21:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 - Call for Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <311075E0-5323-49E4-BD70-DA12AEAEE4F0@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim=YWKEKrHyLv8oY+FNu5OHFB8ixR0BBzkqZw9a@mail.gmail.com>
	<311075E0-5323-49E4-BD70-DA12AEAEE4F0@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=VyLQrZJHWm=1WFk_HsK_8he8uxaGERQY9TsWY@mail.gmail.com>

This is probably a good starting point:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fosdem-android/

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Nick Martin <iamntmartin at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd quite like to have a bash at making an iPhone app for this. Fabio could you let Oisin and myself know what you have in mind?
>
> Thanks
>
> Nick
>
> On 27 Jan 2011, at 12:30, Oisin Mulvihill wrote:
>
>> Hi Fabio,
>>
>> I could help with site review and do an android app. I've been looking
>> for an project to make an app for. What do you have in mind?
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Oisin
>>
>> On 27 January 2011 03:27, Fabio Pliger <fabio.pliger at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> As many of you may know Europython 2011 will take place in Florence - Italy,
>>> from 19 to 24 of June. Europython is a comunity conference runned
>>> volunteers. We have started working to make the Europython 2011 an amazing
>>> conference but we need help from well motivated pythonistas from the
>>> community to make it real. The main activities for volunteers will be needed
>>> in june, when running the conference but still we also need some help now in
>>> order to prepare and develop better services to deploy before and during the
>>> conference.
>>>
>>> Right now we need volunteers to help us with the following activities:
>>>
>>> mobile apps development: If you are a developer help help us creating nice
>>> applications for the conference!
>>> site reviewers: we need english native speaking helpers to review the
>>> website content
>>> sponsorships headhunters: if you know a potential sponsor let us know!
>>> Europython happens thanks to sponsors! More sponsors means a better
>>> conference.
>>>
>>> but when we'll get closer to the conference we'll also need help with other
>>> activities like:
>>>
>>> session chairs
>>> bags and gadgets packaging
>>> audio/video recordings
>>> general help
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Helping Europython to be a great conference is a big help for the python
>>> community and gives you chance to meet many folks inside it. The community
>>> will recognise and appreciate your help!
>>>
>>> Please contact us on chat at the official conference website or the
>>> europython and europython-improve mailing lists
>>>
>>> Stay tuned on this blog, on the official twitter account and subscribe to
>>> the feeds!
>>>
>>> Fabio Pliger ( on behalf of the organizers )
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
>>> EuroPython mailing list
>>> EuroPython at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
>> EuroPython mailing list
>> EuroPython at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>



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From fabio.pliger at s3srl.com  Thu Jan 27 14:26:17 2011
From: fabio.pliger at s3srl.com (Fabio Pliger)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:26:17 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] can we discuss on ONE mailing
 list, please?
In-Reply-To: <4D417078.5030400@voidspace.org.uk>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim=YWKEKrHyLv8oY+FNu5OHFB8ixR0BBzkqZw9a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1296133518.5545.6.camel@x300> <4D417078.5030400@voidspace.org.uk>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimh2tkQj_QS_k_wVw_cERL=dZwRipNquFfdqF1h@mail.gmail.com>

2011/1/27 Michael Foord <fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk>

> On 27/01/2011 13:05, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
>
>> Could we please decide on ONE mailing list for this topic?
>>
>> (I don't have ep-improve - is it even necessary to have 2 MLs?)
>>
>
> Agreed, two copies of each email is tedious. :-)
>

I agree with that too but some folks follow europython@ and other follow
europython-improve. That's why i posted on both...

I'm +1 on keep discussions on only one list. Wich one?
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From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Thu Jan 27 14:31:53 2011
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:31:53 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] can we discuss on ONE mailing
 list, please?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimh2tkQj_QS_k_wVw_cERL=dZwRipNquFfdqF1h@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim=YWKEKrHyLv8oY+FNu5OHFB8ixR0BBzkqZw9a@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <op.vpyyjewa5mynk9@fuchsia.local>

Am 27.01.2011, 14:26 Uhr, schrieb Fabio Pliger <fabio.pliger at s3srl.com>:

> I'm +1 on keep discussions on only one list. Wich one?

Please don't swamp this mailing list with detailed discussions of  
*everything* to do with Europython 2011 this early in the game. By all  
means make appeals for help but I would suggest that you do have a  
dedicated list for the team say, europython-orga. I suppose you could try  
using a topic in Mailman.

Charlie
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From nick.martin at phgroup.com  Thu Jan 27 14:32:43 2011
From: nick.martin at phgroup.com (Nick Martin)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:32:43 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] can we discuss on ONE mailing
	list, please?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimh2tkQj_QS_k_wVw_cERL=dZwRipNquFfdqF1h@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim=YWKEKrHyLv8oY+FNu5OHFB8ixR0BBzkqZw9a@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi,

I would say 'europython' only. The improve list would suggest to me a discussion about improvements; does doing 'stuff' for EuroPython or talking about it == improve?

Cheers

Nick

On 27 Jan 2011, at 13:26, Fabio Pliger wrote:

> 2011/1/27 Michael Foord <fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk>
> On 27/01/2011 13:05, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
> Could we please decide on ONE mailing list for this topic?
> 
> (I don't have ep-improve - is it even necessary to have 2 MLs?)
> 
> Agreed, two copies of each email is tedious. :-)
> 
> I agree with that too but some folks follow europython@ and other follow europython-improve. That's why i posted on both... 
> 
> I'm +1 on keep discussions on only one list. Wich one?
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2010 - Birmingham, 17-24 July 2010 - http://www.europython2010.eu
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython

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From funthyme at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 14:36:51 2011
From: funthyme at gmail.com (John Pinner)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:36:51 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] can we discuss on ONE mailing
 list, please?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimh2tkQj_QS_k_wVw_cERL=dZwRipNquFfdqF1h@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTim=YWKEKrHyLv8oY+FNu5OHFB8ixR0BBzkqZw9a@mail.gmail.com>
	<1296133518.5545.6.camel@x300> <4D417078.5030400@voidspace.org.uk>
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Message-ID: <AANLkTinB8vYSxJb9xzWysp8AsDPJLLMBhpmsQGXCOYyB@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On 27 January 2011 13:26, Fabio Pliger <fabio.pliger at s3srl.com> wrote:
> 2011/1/27 Michael Foord <fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk>
>>
>> On 27/01/2011 13:05, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
>>>
>>> Could we please decide on ONE mailing list for this topic?
>>>
>>> (I don't have ep-improve - is it even necessary to have 2 MLs?)
>>
>> Agreed, two copies of each email is tedious. :-)
>
> I agree with that too but some folks follow europython@ and other follow
> europython-improve. That's why i posted on both...
> I'm +1 on keep discussions on only one list. Wich one?

europython-improve was started specifically for organisers to work on
- 'improve' - the conference. That is the one we should use.

The plain europython list is for the conference delegates, many of who
seem to have a very low tolerance to email. Already today, with a
little flurry on the list, three people have unsubscribed. Many
unsubscribed last year in the run-up to EP2010, heaven knows how they
thought they could keep in touch with what was happening!

Best wishes,

John
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From fabio.pliger at s3srl.com  Thu Jan 27 14:37:43 2011
From: fabio.pliger at s3srl.com (Fabio Pliger)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:37:43 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] can we discuss on ONE mailing
 list, please?
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2011/1/27 Charlie Clark <charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu>

> Am 27.01.2011, 14:26 Uhr, schrieb Fabio Pliger <fabio.pliger at s3srl.com>:
>
>
>  I'm +1 on keep discussions on only one list. Wich one?
>>
>
> Please don't swamp this mailing list with detailed discussions of
> *everything* to do with Europython 2011 this early in the game. By all means
> make appeals for help but I would suggest that you do have a dedicated list
> for the team say, europython-orga. I suppose you could try using a topic in
> Mailman
>

There's also europython-announce that could have been a "target" for CFV but
it's almost unused and not followed..
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From nick.martin at phgroup.com  Thu Jan 27 14:20:21 2011
From: nick.martin at phgroup.com (Nick Martin)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 13:20:21 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] can we discuss on ONE mailing
	list, please?
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+1

On 27 Jan 2011, at 13:17, Michael Foord wrote:

> On 27/01/2011 13:05, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
>> Could we please decide on ONE mailing list for this topic?
>> 
>> (I don't have ep-improve - is it even necessary to have 2 MLs?)
> 
> Agreed, two copies of each email is tedious. :-)
> 
> Michael
> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Europython-improve mailing list
>> Europython-improve at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython-improve
> 
> 
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> 
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> May you find forgiveness for yourself and forgive others
> May you share freely, never taking more than you give.
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From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Thu Jan 27 15:02:56 2011
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 15:02:56 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Please: a printable conference programme!
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=0P-Fgfa3+ZZqF_PYMsYDV4=PJAq1f5W1A3RF7@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1296136976.5545.63.camel@x300>


>       * mobile apps development: If you are a developer help help us
>         creating nice applications for the conference!

Just a quick note from me from a recent experience I had at 27c3 (27th
Chaos Communication Congress) in Berlin:

While quite a lot people nowadays have nice and expensive smartphones,
please consider that there are also quite a lot who don't.

What I found out one day before leaving to the congress was that there
are just some "apps" for misc. mobile platform (not useful at all for
me) and some webapps (one with "offline mode"), that required of course
some kind of browser to see and were in no reasonable way printable.

Unfortunately, this year noone did a "one page / few pages" conference
programme PDF that is just printable to 1 or 2 sheets of paper, which
was really bad for me, because I always had to use my laptop just to
find out what the next talk is and where it is and whether I wanted to
attend it. Needless to say that battery runtime is limited and WLAN
doesn't always work if there are lots of geeks at one place.

So, please consider the many features of a printout on a dead tree:
* ultra-thin, ultra-mobile: just 0.5mm thin, just a few grams of weight,
fits into any pocket
* endless battery runtime, never runs out of power
* boots and shuts down in less than a second
* crash proof operating system
* easy notetaking app to mark talks you want to attend ("pencil") or
even make unrelated notes
* high-contrast 14" 1200 dpi non-glare, foldable, ultra-flexible,
unbreakable display, readable in a wide range of lighting conditions
* full size front and rear display
* ultra-low TCO
* fully recyclable
* runs with or without clouds, does not depend on working wireless
network or UMTS

:-)

If you choose to use colour when creating such a PDF, please keep in
mind that some people use a non-colour laser printer still, so choose
colours which give a readable bw printout (if that's not easy, just
don't use colours).

Putting some such programs at floor walls in the conference building
(and maybe even keeping them updated in case of programme changes) would
also help quite a lot.



From fabio.pliger at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 17:14:34 2011
From: fabio.pliger at gmail.com (Fabio Pliger)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:14:34 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 - Call for Volunteers
In-Reply-To: <311075E0-5323-49E4-BD70-DA12AEAEE4F0@gmail.com>
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2011/1/27 Nick Martin <iamntmartin at googlemail.com>

> Hi,
>
> I'd quite like to have a bash at making an iPhone app for this. Fabio could
> you let Oisin and myself know what you have in mind?


The starting point should be this: http://ep2011.europython.eu/mobile

I'm not directely involved in the mobile apps activities. I'm asking to one
the folks that follows this activity to contact you both!

-- 
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From rasky at develer.com  Thu Jan 27 19:48:14 2011
From: rasky at develer.com (Giovanni Bajo)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:48:14 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] can we discuss on ONE mailing
 list, please?
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On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 13:36 +0000, John Pinner wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 27 January 2011 13:26, Fabio Pliger <fabio.pliger at s3srl.com> wrote:
> > 2011/1/27 Michael Foord <fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk>
> >>
> >> On 27/01/2011 13:05, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Could we please decide on ONE mailing list for this topic?
> >>>
> >>> (I don't have ep-improve - is it even necessary to have 2 MLs?)
> >>
> >> Agreed, two copies of each email is tedious. :-)
> >
> > I agree with that too but some folks follow europython@ and other follow
> > europython-improve. That's why i posted on both...
> > I'm +1 on keep discussions on only one list. Wich one?
> 
> europython-improve was started specifically for organisers to work on
> - 'improve' - the conference. That is the one we should use.
> 
> The plain europython list is for the conference delegates, many of who
> seem to have a very low tolerance to email. Already today, with a
> little flurry on the list, three people have unsubscribed. Many
> unsubscribed last year in the run-up to EP2010, heaven knows how they
> thought they could keep in touch with what was happening!

I personally don't see much value in a *mailing-list* for delegates. In
PyCon Italy, we have a mailing-list for organizers and a newsletter (=
read-only mailing-list, if you prefer) for delegates/fans/followers,
with a very low and clean traffic.

By your description above, I propose that we simply turn europython@
into a newsletter so that non-moderators can't post (and we can then
link it with the "subscribe to newsletter" form in the website).
-- 
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Develer S.r.l.  ::  http://www.develer.com

My Blog: http://giovanni.bajo.it
Last post: Compile-time Function Execution in D


From fabio.pliger at s3srl.com  Thu Jan 27 21:36:12 2011
From: fabio.pliger at s3srl.com (Fabio Pliger)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:36:12 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] can we discuss on ONE mailing
 list, please?
In-Reply-To: <1296154094.3373.456.camel@lilax>
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2011/1/27 Giovanni Bajo <rasky at develer.com>

> On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 13:36 +0000, John Pinner wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On 27 January 2011 13:26, Fabio Pliger <fabio.pliger at s3srl.com> wrote:
> > > 2011/1/27 Michael Foord <fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk>
> > >>
> > >> On 27/01/2011 13:05, Thomas Waldmann wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Could we please decide on ONE mailing list for this topic?
> > >>>
> > >>> (I don't have ep-improve - is it even necessary to have 2 MLs?)
> > >>
> > >> Agreed, two copies of each email is tedious. :-)
> > >
> > > I agree with that too but some folks follow europython@ and other
> follow
> > > europython-improve. That's why i posted on both...
> > > I'm +1 on keep discussions on only one list. Wich one?
> >
> > europython-improve was started specifically for organisers to work on
> > - 'improve' - the conference. That is the one we should use.
> >
> > The plain europython list is for the conference delegates, many of who
> > seem to have a very low tolerance to email. Already today, with a
> > little flurry on the list, three people have unsubscribed. Many
> > unsubscribed last year in the run-up to EP2010, heaven knows how they
> > thought they could keep in touch with what was happening!
>
> I personally don't see much value in a *mailing-list* for delegates. In
> PyCon Italy, we have a mailing-list for organizers and a newsletter (=
> read-only mailing-list, if you prefer) for delegates/fans/followers,
> with a very low and clean traffic.
>
> By your description above, I propose that we simply turn europython@
> into a newsletter so that non-moderators can't post (and we can then
> link it with the "subscribe to newsletter" form in the website).


mmm... I wouldn't change the way europython@ is set.. Personally i like to
leave europython@ as a place where people can contact organizers. I remember
that attendees used it to ask questions about common issues like visas info,
refunds, students help, etc...
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From charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu  Thu Jan 27 21:44:44 2011
From: charlie.clark at clark-consulting.eu (Charlie Clark)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:44:44 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] [Europython-improve] can we discuss on ONE mailing
 list, please?
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Am 27.01.2011, 19:48 Uhr, schrieb Giovanni Bajo <rasky at develer.com>:

> By your description above, I propose that we simply turn europython@
> into a newsletter so that non-moderators can't post (and we can then
> link it with the "subscribe to newsletter" form in the website).

- lots

This has been a great mailing list for delegates over the last few years,  
especially shortly before and during the conferences.

Charlie
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From russel at russel.org.uk  Sun Jan 30 19:45:11 2011
From: russel at russel.org.uk (Russel Winder)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 18:45:11 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 Blog
Message-ID: <1296413111.10095.235.camel@anglides>

I tried to add http://ep2011.europython.eu/blog/ to my Google Reader
subscriptions but it redirects to PyconItalia Blog which would be fine
if it were the EuroPython 2011 blog!  Is this a problem with the Google
Reader or with the EuroPython 2011 infrastructure?

Thanks.

-- 
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=============================================================================
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From fabio.pliger at s3srl.com  Sun Jan 30 23:25:07 2011
From: fabio.pliger at s3srl.com (Fabio Pliger)
Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2011 23:25:07 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 Blog
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2011/1/30 Russel Winder <russel at russel.org.uk>

> I tried to add http://ep2011.europython.eu/blog/ to my Google Reader
> subscriptions but it redirects to PyconItalia Blog which would be fine
> if it were the EuroPython 2011 blog!  Is this a problem with the Google
> Reader or with the EuroPython 2011 infrastructure?


Please check it out.. It should be ok now.

thanks

Fabio
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From russel at russel.org.uk  Mon Jan 31 12:23:41 2011
From: russel at russel.org.uk (Russel Winder)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:23:41 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 Blog
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Fabio,

On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 23:25 +0100, Fabio Pliger wrote:
> 
> 
> 2011/1/30 Russel Winder <russel at russel.org.uk>
>         I tried to add http://ep2011.europython.eu/blog/ to my Google
>         Reader
>         subscriptions but it redirects to PyconItalia Blog which would
>         be fine
>         if it were the EuroPython 2011 blog!  Is this a problem with
>         the Google
>         Reader or with the EuroPython 2011 infrastructure?
> 
> 
> Please check it out.. It should be ok now.

ep2011.europython.eu still redirects to the PyconItalia blog for me
using Google Reader, I'm afraid.

-- 
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=============================================================================
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From s.mount at wlv.ac.uk  Mon Jan 31 12:29:01 2011
From: s.mount at wlv.ac.uk (Sarah Mount)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:29:01 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 Blog
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References: <1296413111.10095.235.camel@anglides>
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And for me...

On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 11:23, Russel Winder <russel at russel.org.uk> wrote:
> Fabio,
>
> On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 23:25 +0100, Fabio Pliger wrote:
>>
>>
>> 2011/1/30 Russel Winder <russel at russel.org.uk>
>> ? ? ? ? I tried to add http://ep2011.europython.eu/blog/ to my Google
>> ? ? ? ? Reader
>> ? ? ? ? subscriptions but it redirects to PyconItalia Blog which would
>> ? ? ? ? be fine
>> ? ? ? ? if it were the EuroPython 2011 blog! ?Is this a problem with
>> ? ? ? ? the Google
>> ? ? ? ? Reader or with the EuroPython 2011 infrastructure?
>>
>>
>> Please check it out.. It should be ok now.
>
> ep2011.europython.eu still redirects to the PyconItalia blog for me
> using Google Reader, I'm afraid.
>
> --
> Russel.
> =============================================================================
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> London SW11 1EN, UK ? w: www.russel.org.uk ?skype: russel_winder
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://ep2011.europython.eu/
> EuroPython mailing list
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> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
>
>



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From mfoord at python.org  Mon Jan 31 12:37:13 2011
From: mfoord at python.org (Michael Foord)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:37:13 +0000
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2011 Blog
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References: <1296413111.10095.235.camel@anglides>	<AANLkTi=cLZgvDp2yrh_83KubYWKhoy2SC0LZ8UJYMBmN@mail.gmail.com>
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On 31/01/2011 11:23, Russel Winder wrote:
> Fabio,
>
> On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 23:25 +0100, Fabio Pliger wrote:
>>
>> 2011/1/30 Russel Winder<russel at russel.org.uk>
>>          I tried to add http://ep2011.europython.eu/blog/ to my Google
>>          Reader
>>          subscriptions but it redirects to PyconItalia Blog which would
>>          be fine
>>          if it were the EuroPython 2011 blog!  Is this a problem with
>>          the Google
>>          Reader or with the EuroPython 2011 infrastructure?
>>
>>
>> Please check it out.. It should be ok now.
> ep2011.europython.eu still redirects to the PyconItalia blog for me
> using Google Reader, I'm afraid.
>
The correct feed URL is in the page head. However the RSS contains 
entries that link back to the pycon.it domain rather than europython.eu.

All the best,

Michael

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