From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Fri Mar  9 00:57:27 2012
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 00:57:27 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Parking the car
Message-ID: <1331251047.10289.9.camel@x300.localdomain>

Hi,

I just wanted to book my EP ticket and noticed that you have made a good
arrangement with the conference hotel, thanks for that!

But in the end, I did not, because the parking expenses (if any) are
unclear. I am from southern germany and might collect some fellow python
people from germany and drive by car to Florence.

As on the EP site there was no statement about parking costs (and I
already knew from last year that this is an issue in florence), I
googled a bit and finally found that the grand hotel mediterraneo
usually takes 22 EUR PER DAY(!) just for a parking place in their
garage, which kind of spoils the whole deal for me.

Did you talk with them about parking costs? If not, could you do that?

Paying almost the same for a car sleeping place than for my personal
sleeping place feels a bit weird. ;)

Cheers, Thomas


From giovanni at pycon.it  Fri Mar  9 01:42:11 2012
From: giovanni at pycon.it (Giovanni Bajo)
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 01:42:11 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Parking the car
In-Reply-To: <1331251047.10289.9.camel@x300.localdomain>
References: <1331251047.10289.9.camel@x300.localdomain>
Message-ID: <1739CA7E-EFA7-4F0C-BAE5-C49027B7C86F@pycon.it>

Il giorno 09/mar/2012, alle ore 00:57, Thomas Waldmann ha scritto:

> Hi,
> 
> I just wanted to book my EP ticket and noticed that you have made a good
> arrangement with the conference hotel, thanks for that!

Thanks! Rooms are limited though, so I suggest people that are sure to come one way or another to book as soon as possible. We will do our best to secure more rooms into this deal, but after this first batch prices might have to go up a little.

Blogpost about this is going out asap.

> But in the end, I did not, because the parking expenses (if any) are
> unclear. I am from southern germany and might collect some fellow python
> people from germany and drive by car to Florence.
> 
> As on the EP site there was no statement about parking costs (and I

I'm not sure what you mean by "statement". We offer a few suggestions here:
https://ep2012.europython.eu/where

in the section "If you come by car". 

> already knew from last year that this is an issue in florence), I
> googled a bit and finally found that the grand hotel mediterraneo
> usually takes 22 EUR PER DAY(!) just for a parking place in their
> garage, which kind of spoils the whole deal for me.

We used to have a convention for that, which downs that to ?15/day. Since nobody used it last year, I'm not even sure we've refreshed it this year. I'll have to double check this.

One thing we can surely do is to demand and obtain 2-3 free parking slots at Mediterraneo, and then offer them on our website. This can't scale obviously, but it's better than nothing. I'll make sure to put this on the table on our next negotiation meeting, which is next Monday :)

> Did you talk with them about parking costs? If not, could you do that?
> 
> Paying almost the same for a car sleeping place than for my personal
> sleeping place feels a bit weird. ;)


In Florence, most of the parking slots are either reserved for residents of each zone, or subjected to a hourly fee. Nonetheless, if you are OK with leaving your car unattended (there's no specific reason why you shouldn't, but some people might be sensitive to this), there are many places where you can park it for free, and then get a taxi or a bus to the hotel. For instance, you could park in a nearby shopping mall free parking (which are usually meant for shoppers, but not enforced as such). The taxi is going to cost  you ~10/15 euro one way with luggages. The bus is ?1,20 one way. Obviously the best solution also depends on whether you plan on using the car during your staying in Florence or not.

I'll try to come up with 2-3 different suggestions on "how to park free or very cheaply"  and put them on that website page. It's never been a priority for the reasons explained above, but it's surely due.

BTW: it might sound disingenuous, but we can't be aware that you need more information until you speak up. So, please everybody, speak up if you need help with travel arrangements, or whatnot. We're here to help you.
-- 
Giovanni Bajo

EuroPython 2012
https://ep2012.europython.eu

Python Italia APS
Non-profit association
Registered in Italy


From info at pycon.it  Fri Mar  9 17:45:35 2012
From: info at pycon.it (info at pycon.it)
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2012 16:45:35 -0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Early bird registrations now open
Message-ID: <20120309164535.20846.13280@python.it>

We are pleased to announce that Early Bird registration is [now
open](https://ep2012.europython.eu/registration), and offers an average of 30%
off the regular price.

Just like last year, we are offering different fares for students, individuals
or companies; moreover, in addition to the standard ticket (which includes 5
days of full conference access, including catering), we are also offering a
lite ticket that does not include access to the 4-hour [hands-on
trainings](https://ep2012.europython.eu/trainings), and a daily ticket.

## Hotel convention

As previously hinted, we are also offering a very [special
convention](https://ep2012.europython.eu/hotel-convention) for bedrooms with
Grand Hotel Mediterraneo, the conference hotel: you can sleep for as low as
?30 per person per night, including wifi and breakfast, in a 4-star hotel in
the city center of Florence!

Moreover, we will try to help people roomsharing: even if you don't know
anyone, you can simply book a single bed in a shared double, triple or
quadruple room, and we will find a good match for you. This will save you a
lot on the travel costs.

This convention is for a limited number of rooms, so we suggest to book as
early as possible. We will probably obtain a second batch of rooms later, but
at a higher price.

## Book now to join the community voting

All proposals for talks, [trainings](https://ep2012.europython.eu/trainings)
or [posters](https://ep2012.europython.eu/poster-session), will be subjected
to a public [community voting](https://ep2012.europython.eu/talk-voting), that
will select the proposals that will make it to the final schedule. If you want
to influence the schedule of EuroPython and vote the proposals you like most,
it is sufficient to [buy a conference
ticket](https://ep2012.europython.eu/registration): in fact, all people
holding a valid ticket in their account will be granted access to the voting.

## Call for proposals still running

Remember that the [call for proposals](https://ep2012.europython.eu/call-for-
proposals) is still open. Even if you have never given a talk in a conference,
consider submitting a proposal: you can mark yourself as first-time speaker in
the submission form, and we are preparing a great rehearsal and review process
to help such speakers improve their skills and talks.

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From tw at waldmann-edv.de  Sun Mar 11 20:26:01 2012
From: tw at waldmann-edv.de (Thomas Waldmann)
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 20:26:01 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] Parking the car
In-Reply-To: <1739CA7E-EFA7-4F0C-BAE5-C49027B7C86F@pycon.it>
References: <1331251047.10289.9.camel@x300.localdomain>
	<1739CA7E-EFA7-4F0C-BAE5-C49027B7C86F@pycon.it>
Message-ID: <1331493961.8485.13.camel@x300.localdomain>


> Thanks! Rooms are limited though, so I suggest people that are sure to
> come one way or another to book as soon as possible.

Just booked ticket, bed and flight.

As one of the car sharers told me that he likely can't come and I found
a cheap flight STR-FLR, I'll leave the car at home.

Maybe check the parking/garage costs with the hotel nevertheless, it
might be interesting for other people.

> I'm not sure what you mean by "statement". We offer a few suggestions here:
> https://ep2012.europython.eu/where

Yes, I have seen that after you pointing there. I didn't look at the
"where" as I knew where it is. :)

> We used to have a convention for that, which downs that to ?15/day.

Yeah, but 15 * 8 is already 83% of my flight price. ;)

> Since nobody used it last year, I'm not even sure we've refreshed it this year.

I guess it is rather uninteresting if you get a cheap flight and would
drive alone.

The calculation gets different if there are multiple people travelling
with you. Of course one has to consider car costs + fuel + highway costs
+ parking + the time/effort needed for that travel.

BTW, thanks again for making the booking much easier this year. I spent
a lot of time arranging room sharing with 3 other people in a nearby
hotel last year. This time, it was much quicker and less complicated due
to you organizing it for us all! :)



From raulcumplido at gmail.com  Mon Mar 12 03:09:15 2012
From: raulcumplido at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ra=FAl_Cumplido?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 03:09:15 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] 404 on paper submission link
Message-ID: <CAD1Rbrpn19qGsXyUXcueepJbr7Z8+1vVpGicG-OAB+6ED9bg4w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I've been trying yo submit a talk and on the next url:
https://ep2012.europython.eu/conference/paper-submission/
I am having a 404 NOT FOUND.

And I can't find any link to the correct talk submission form. Please, can
you send me the link or help me on where I can find it on the web.

Thanks,

-- 
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From giovanni at pycon.it  Mon Mar 12 09:37:42 2012
From: giovanni at pycon.it (Giovanni Bajo)
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:37:42 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] 404 on paper submission link
In-Reply-To: <CAD1Rbrpn19qGsXyUXcueepJbr7Z8+1vVpGicG-OAB+6ED9bg4w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAD1Rbrpn19qGsXyUXcueepJbr7Z8+1vVpGicG-OAB+6ED9bg4w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3BCD2379-3DA7-4F4F-B2E1-05F9BA2095E3@pycon.it>

Il giorno 12/mar/2012, alle ore 03:09, Ra?l Cumplido ha scritto:

> Hi,
> 
> I've been trying yo submit a talk and on the next url: https://ep2012.europython.eu/conference/paper-submission/
> I am having a 404 NOT FOUND.
> 
> And I can't find any link to the correct talk submission form. Please, can you send me the link or help me on where I can find it on the web.

Sorry about that, the backend thought CFP was already closed because of a typo in the closing date.

Now it's open again, and you should easily find all links you are looking for.
-- 
Giovanni Bajo

EuroPython 2012
https://ep2012.europython.eu

Python Italia APS
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From info at pycon.it  Mon Mar 19 10:17:58 2012
From: info at pycon.it (info at pycon.it)
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 09:17:58 -0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Call for Proposal is extended to Wednesday
Message-ID: <20120319091758.27178.82994@python.it>

We are please to announce that the [Call for
Proposals](https://ep2012.europython.eu/call-for-proposals) has been extended
to Wednesday 23:59:59 CET, to facilitate speakers that joined PyCon USA.

PyCon USA just finished in fact, and we got word that there were a few
potential speakers that simply did not have enough time to sit down and write
a proposal.

Thus, we are extending the CFP by 3 days. If you want to propose a talk, a
[training](https://ep2012.europython.eu/training) or a
[poster](https://ep2012.europython.eu/poster-session), you are still on time.

We are not shifting the whole calendar though: [talk
voting](https://ep2012.europython.eu/talk-voting) will still begin on Monday
26th. Remember to [buy a ticket](https://ep2012.europython.eu/registration)
now if you want to vote the proposals, since talk voting is reserved to ticket
holders.

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From info at pycon.it  Mon Mar 26 01:45:42 2012
From: info at pycon.it (info at pycon.it)
Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 23:45:42 -0000
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk voting is now open
Message-ID: <20120325234542.21777.36694@python.it>

We are pleased to announce that the [community talk
voting](https://ep2012.europython.eu/talk-voting) is now open, and will last
until Sunday, 23:59:59 CEST

As you know, EuroPython is a conference made _by_ the Python community _for_
the Python community. This is the basic principle that we respect and that
makes us believe that the best way to select and filter the 200+ proposals we
received is through a public voting process.

We feel that the Python community is nowadays so diverse and rich that a small
group of organizers cannot fully represent it in choosing the talks. At the
same time, we want to make sure that only actual EuroPython participants will
be able to select the talks to prevent abuses, and this is why we will give
access to talk voting only to people that [buy a
ticket](https://ep2012.europython.eu/registration).

## A few suggestions on voting

With over 200 proposals among talks,
[trainings](https://ep2012.europython.eu/trainings), and
[posters](https://ep2012.europython.eu/poster-session), voting will take some
time.

Make sure to take your time to analyze the proposals and express your
preference. We offer several different filters to help you wade through the
proposals, including a complete tag taxonomy that has been manually reviewed
and refined by our talk manager Lorenzo.

If you have some questions on a proposal, you will be abel to leave a comment
to the speaker: he/she will receive it in the mailbox and will hopefully
answer you and clarify the abstract for everybody else.

Happy voting!

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From mal at egenix.com  Mon Mar 26 12:24:29 2012
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:24:29 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk voting is now open
In-Reply-To: <20120325234542.21777.36694@python.it>
References: <20120325234542.21777.36694@python.it>
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info at pycon.it wrote:
> We are pleased to announce that the [community talk
> voting](https://ep2012.europython.eu/talk-voting) is now open, and will last
> until Sunday, 23:59:59 CEST
> 
> As you know, EuroPython is a conference made _by_ the Python community _for_
> the Python community. This is the basic principle that we respect and that
> makes us believe that the best way to select and filter the 200+ proposals we
> received is through a public voting process.
> 
> We feel that the Python community is nowadays so diverse and rich that a small
> group of organizers cannot fully represent it in choosing the talks. At the
> same time, we want to make sure that only actual EuroPython participants will
> be able to select the talks to prevent abuses, and this is why we will give
> access to talk voting only to people that [buy a
> ticket](https://ep2012.europython.eu/registration).
> 
> ## A few suggestions on voting
> 
> With over 200 proposals among talks,
> [trainings](https://ep2012.europython.eu/trainings), and
> [posters](https://ep2012.europython.eu/poster-session), voting will take some
> time.
> 
> Make sure to take your time to analyze the proposals and express your
> preference. We offer several different filters to help you wade through the
> proposals, including a complete tag taxonomy that has been manually reviewed
> and refined by our talk manager Lorenzo.
> 
> If you have some questions on a proposal, you will be abel to leave a comment
> to the speaker: he/she will receive it in the mailbox and will hopefully
> answer you and clarify the abstract for everybody else.

Thanks for the announcement and congratulations for attracting more
then 200+ talk proposals.

One question: Can you give a rough idea of how many talk slots are
available for the EuroPython 2012 conference ?

I've just gone through the list and there are so many interesting
talks, that you could easily fill two conference weeks :-)

Thanks,
-- 
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From giovanni at pycon.it  Mon Mar 26 12:36:01 2012
From: giovanni at pycon.it (Giovanni Bajo)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:36:01 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk voting is now open
In-Reply-To: <4F7043DD.3000509@egenix.com>
References: <20120325234542.21777.36694@python.it>
	<4F7043DD.3000509@egenix.com>
Message-ID: <93BD1F2D-88BC-4789-90F1-7D6B9C6FBCC6@pycon.it>

Il giorno 26/mar/2012, alle ore 12:24, M.-A. Lemburg ha scritto:

> info at pycon.it wrote:
>> We are pleased to announce that the [community talk
>> voting](https://ep2012.europython.eu/talk-voting) is now open, and will last
>> until Sunday, 23:59:59 CEST
>> 
>> As you know, EuroPython is a conference made _by_ the Python community _for_
>> the Python community. This is the basic principle that we respect and that
>> makes us believe that the best way to select and filter the 200+ proposals we
>> received is through a public voting process.
>> 
>> We feel that the Python community is nowadays so diverse and rich that a small
>> group of organizers cannot fully represent it in choosing the talks. At the
>> same time, we want to make sure that only actual EuroPython participants will
>> be able to select the talks to prevent abuses, and this is why we will give
>> access to talk voting only to people that [buy a
>> ticket](https://ep2012.europython.eu/registration).
>> 
>> ## A few suggestions on voting
>> 
>> With over 200 proposals among talks,
>> [trainings](https://ep2012.europython.eu/trainings), and
>> [posters](https://ep2012.europython.eu/poster-session), voting will take some
>> time.
>> 
>> Make sure to take your time to analyze the proposals and express your
>> preference. We offer several different filters to help you wade through the
>> proposals, including a complete tag taxonomy that has been manually reviewed
>> and refined by our talk manager Lorenzo.
>> 
>> If you have some questions on a proposal, you will be abel to leave a comment
>> to the speaker: he/she will receive it in the mailbox and will hopefully
>> answer you and clarify the abstract for everybody else.
> 
> Thanks for the announcement and congratulations for attracting more
> then 200+ talk proposals.
> 
> One question: Can you give a rough idea of how many talk slots are
> available for the EuroPython 2012 conference ?
> 
> I've just gone through the list and there are so many interesting
> talks, that you could easily fill two conference weeks :-)


We should have room for roughly 110 talks, 10 trainings and 10 posters. This is an estimate though.
-- 
Giovanni Bajo

EuroPython 2012
https://ep2012.europython.eu

Python Italia APS
Non-profit association
Registered in Italy



From mal at egenix.com  Mon Mar 26 13:05:03 2012
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:05:03 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Talk voting is now open
In-Reply-To: <93BD1F2D-88BC-4789-90F1-7D6B9C6FBCC6@pycon.it>
References: <20120325234542.21777.36694@python.it>
	<4F7043DD.3000509@egenix.com>
	<93BD1F2D-88BC-4789-90F1-7D6B9C6FBCC6@pycon.it>
Message-ID: <4F704D5F.5050903@egenix.com>

Giovanni Bajo wrote:
> Il giorno 26/mar/2012, alle ore 12:24, M.-A. Lemburg ha scritto:
> 
>> Thanks for the announcement and congratulations for attracting more
>> then 200+ talk proposals.
>>
>> One question: Can you give a rough idea of how many talk slots are
>> available for the EuroPython 2012 conference ?
>>
>> I've just gone through the list and there are so many interesting
>> talks, that you could easily fill two conference weeks :-)
> 
> 
> We should have room for roughly 110 talks, 10 trainings and 10 posters. This is an estimate though.

Thanks for the numbers, Giovanni.

-- 
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From paurullan at gmail.com  Mon Mar 26 20:04:00 2012
From: paurullan at gmail.com (Pau =?utf-8?Q?Ru=C5=80lan?= Ferragut)
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 20:04:00 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Week-long train tickets
Message-ID: <20120326180400.GA23852@gotham>

  salve!

I am staying at Pisa for an Erasmus and will be coming to EuroPython (yay!).

Is there any recommendation for buying the train tickets for the whole
conference period? Something like a 10-day pass or alike?

  grazie mille,
  Pau Ru?lan

From giovanni at pycon.it  Tue Mar 27 00:30:07 2012
From: giovanni at pycon.it (Giovanni Bajo)
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 00:30:07 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] Week-long train tickets
In-Reply-To: <20120326180400.GA23852@gotham>
References: <20120326180400.GA23852@gotham>
Message-ID: <D69D58B0-2A53-49ED-B563-57F2EB976DDB@pycon.it>

Il giorno 26/mar/2012, alle ore 20:04, Pau Ru?lan Ferragut ha scritto:

>  salve!
> 
> I am staying at Pisa for an Erasmus and will be coming to EuroPython (yay!).
> 
> Is there any recommendation for buying the train tickets for the whole
> conference period? Something like a 10-day pass or alike?
> 
>  grazie mille,
>  Pau Ru?lan

Ciao Pau,

sure! Trenitalia has weekly tickets; they cost a little bit more than 2 times the cost of a single trip; Pisa-Firenze is about ?14, so I assume the weekly ticket will be about ?30. You don't need to book anything; just buy the weekly ticket on the first day (or the week before, if you want to play safe). 

Please double-check everything by asking directly at the train station, because things tend to change fast and I'm not be fully up-to-dated; I personally don't use trains very frequently.

See you in Florence!
-- 
Giovanni Bajo

EuroPython 2012
https://ep2012.europython.eu

Python Italia APS
Non-profit association
Registered in Italy