[EuroPython] Extra "Personal" ticket charge to Early Bird conditions on Monday

Andreas Jung lists at zopyx.com
Sat Feb 8 12:10:27 CET 2014


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Armin Rigo wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
> 
> On 8 February 2014 08:14, Andreas Jung <lists at zopyx.com> wrote:
>> At least the organization team has a financial plan and a budget
>> and it is _obvious_ to every child that can calculate that you can
>> not sell an undetermined number of tickets to a reduced price over 
>> some fixed period if you don't want to run over your budget.
> 
> Andreas, this tone seems unsuitable to me.  Are you calling the 
> organizers of all previous EuroPython conferences childs that can't 
> calculate?  Are you calling childish all previous Pythoneers that 
> naively expect a similar model in this EuroPython than what they are 
> used to?  If you are, you're alienating them very quickly.  You are 
> not explaining how previous EuroPythons managed to do it while your 
> team doesn't.

First I commented only on Jacob de Vera's expectations about what
early bird means.

Second: it is obvious that there is a certain financial risk
organizing such a big conference with a budget of several hundred
thousand euros. So what is please your point with this approach?
Do you expect that we sell an unlimited amount of discounted tickets
with the risk of a financial loss? Do you expect that the standard and
ondesk prices would remain the same with this approach? Of course
everyone wants cheap tickets but the costs per person for location,
catering etc. remain the same and must be paid by someone.  Once again:
having a limited number of tickets for a reduced price is not uncommon
for conferences. The amount of tickets and their prices depend a lot of
the location and local costs. If you are interested in the calculation
for the conference then please contact the finance team - we have
nothing to hide.

Regarding "this tone": calling use "very unprofessional" or comments
like "pigheaded" from some other person is not very helpful and
motivating for the people working very hard at the moment. Everyone is
invited helping us making this the best and largest EuroPython ever -
but *please* don't shoot us continuously in the back.

Thanks
Andreas
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