From mal at europython.eu  Thu Oct  9 11:42:52 2014
From: mal at europython.eu (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 11:42:52 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results
Message-ID: <5436589C.204@europython.eu>

(This post is also available for online reading at:
http://www.europython-society.org/post/99555529425/europython-2014-feedback-results)

We?d like to thank everyone who participated in the EuroPython 2014
feedback call. A total of 164 people have sent in their feedback.

The results are now available as PDF:

    EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxtmaxoki8mqie4/EuroPython-2014-Feedback.pdf?dl=1

As previously announced, we have removed the comment field entries to
make sure that we don?t accidentally leak private information.

A few key points can be extracted from the results:

* the overall conference was a great success
* most attendees (or at least the ones that participated in the
  questionnaire) were experienced Python users
* attendees loved the professionally run venue, the social event, the
  food and drinks
* quality of talks/trainings was good, but could see some improvement
* the recruiting event did not meet expectations and needs to be improved
  for future years
* about 2/3 of the attendees found the conference fee to be good value
  for money, about 1/3 would prefer lower fees
* attendees would like to see the following improvements
  implemented/extended for future years: easy access to SIM cards,
  sponsored parties, workshops for beginners, business session for
  freelancers/projects
* 98% of the attendees are looking forward to EuroPython 2015

We will use this feedback to continue to improve the attendee experience
for EuroPython 2015.

Helping with EuroPython 2015
----------------------------

If you would like to help with EuroPython 2015, we invite you to join the
EuroPython Society. Membership is free. Just go to our application page
and enter your details. Please join and help us make a better conference:

    http://www.europython-society.org/application

Enjoy,
?
EuroPython Society

From fklebczyk at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 14:12:14 2014
From: fklebczyk at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?RmlsaXAgS8WCxJliY3p5aw==?=)
Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 14:12:14 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results
In-Reply-To: <5436589C.204@europython.eu>
References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu>
Message-ID: <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com>

W dniu 09.10.2014 11:42, M.-A. Lemburg pisze:
> A total of 164 people have sent in their feedback.

That's less than 15% attendees, in my opinion hard to call it a good 
representation, though it gives some information.

Some time ago I've run into interesting blog post from this year 
EuroPython organizer  and I recommend everyone to read it:
https://www.andreas-jung.com/contents/europython-2014-summary-part-2

Interesting parts from that blog:

---
"I can only summarize the behavior of the EPS  as only-demanding, an 
arrogant top-down attitude and a conduct that is far away from being 
acceptable for an open-source community."

"They have five persons on the board and their only day business is to 
meta-organize a EuroPython conference and dealing with EuroPython 
trademark issues.  The real organization work is always carried out by 
the local organizers."

"Both Fabio and Marc-Andr? had been involved (in a good and bad way) 
with the Berlin organizers over the last year."

"Let us send the current EPS board (except Fabio) into the desert and 
install persons as board members that are interested in one thing: 
organizing further great conferences with local organizers in a 
constructive way instead of defending their only poor assets."
---

Personally I think that the conference done in Berlin was good, despite 
it was 30% pricier that the one in Florence (in result less affordable 
for people living in Central-Eastern Europe). But anyway after reading 
that blog I wonder if EPS would care to explain openly to us what was 
the conflict between them and Berlin organizers about. Why the next 
EuroPython event (according to some rumors on the Internet) won't happen 
in Berlin, but in Vienna. If rumors are correct on what basis Vienna has 
been chosen? What is the experience of local organizers in running 
Python/PyCon conferences?

Regards,
Filip K??bczyk

From mal at europython.eu  Fri Oct 10 11:39:40 2014
From: mal at europython.eu (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:39:40 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results
In-Reply-To: <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com>
References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu>

Hi Filip,

we are aware of Andreas' blog post, but have intentionally not
entered into a discussion, since we're focusing on next year's
EuroPython conference using a new organizational model which
addresses the issues we've found with the past model.

Regarding the location for next year, we haven't decided anything
yet, but are actively discussing with several teams to see
whether they would like to participate in the EuroPython 2015
organization as on-site team in the context of the new
workgroup model.

If any other teams are interesting in entering discussions with
us, please contact the EPS board.

The choice of location will then follow a similar process as
in previous years. The CFP will include the details.

Regards,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
EuroPython Society
http://www.europython-society.org/

From andi at pyfidelity.com  Fri Oct 10 12:22:08 2014
From: andi at pyfidelity.com (Andreas Zeidler)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:22:08 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results
In-Reply-To: <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu>
References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com>
 <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu>
Message-ID: <6DFFD5DC-30E5-488F-AA75-FBE1CD3CB8CE@pyfidelity.com>

hi marc-andre,

could you please explain though, why EP 2015 won?t take place in berlin again?  or rather, why it?s even being considered to have it elsewhere?  as far as i?m aware the plan always was to have the conference in the same place for at least two years in a row.  and as far as i remember berlin was announced to hold it in 2014 and 2015.  what happened?

cheers,


andi


On 10 Oct 2014, at 11:39, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at europython.eu> wrote:
> Hi Filip,
> 
> we are aware of Andreas' blog post, but have intentionally not
> entered into a discussion, since we're focusing on next year's
> EuroPython conference using a new organizational model which
> addresses the issues we've found with the past model.
> 
> Regarding the location for next year, we haven't decided anything
> yet, but are actively discussing with several teams to see
> whether they would like to participate in the EuroPython 2015
> organization as on-site team in the context of the new
> workgroup model.
> 
> If any other teams are interesting in entering discussions with
> us, please contact the EPS board.
> 
> The choice of location will then follow a similar process as
> in previous years. The CFP will include the details.
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> Marc-Andre Lemburg
> Director
> EuroPython Society
> http://www.europython-society.org/
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2014 - July 21th-27th in Berlin
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> Attendee Wiki: https://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2014

-- 
pyfidelity.com


From mal at europython.eu  Fri Oct 10 12:58:35 2014
From: mal at europython.eu (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:58:35 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results
In-Reply-To: <6DFFD5DC-30E5-488F-AA75-FBE1CD3CB8CE@pyfidelity.com>
References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu>
 <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com>	<5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu>
 <6DFFD5DC-30E5-488F-AA75-FBE1CD3CB8CE@pyfidelity.com>
Message-ID: <5437BBDB.6040906@europython.eu>

Hi Andreas,

On 10.10.2014 12:22, Andreas Zeidler wrote:
> hi marc-andre,
> 
> could you please explain though, why EP 2015 won?t take place in berlin again?  or rather, why it?s even being considered to have it elsewhere?  as far as i?m aware the plan always was to have the conference in the same place for at least two years in a row.  and as far as i remember berlin was announced to hold it in 2014 and 2015.  what happened?

As explained below, we are moving to a new organizational model
for EuroPython 2015, which is different from the one used this year,
so we need to run a new CFP for 2015, since the previous setup
no longer applies.

We'd love to receive as many proposals for EuroPython 2015 as
possible, including one from a Berlin on-site team.

BTW: We have another posting coming up which will introduce and
explain the new model to a broader audience :-)

Cheers,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
EuroPython Society
http://www.europython-society.org/

> On 10 Oct 2014, at 11:39, M.-A. Lemburg <mal at europython.eu> wrote:
>> Hi Filip,
>>
>> we are aware of Andreas' blog post, but have intentionally not
>> entered into a discussion, since we're focusing on next year's
>> EuroPython conference using a new organizational model which
>> addresses the issues we've found with the past model.
>>
>> Regarding the location for next year, we haven't decided anything
>> yet, but are actively discussing with several teams to see
>> whether they would like to participate in the EuroPython 2015
>> organization as on-site team in the context of the new
>> workgroup model.
>>
>> If any other teams are interesting in entering discussions with
>> us, please contact the EPS board.
>>
>> The choice of location will then follow a similar process as
>> in previous years. The CFP will include the details.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -- 
>> Marc-Andre Lemburg
>> Director
>> EuroPython Society
>> http://www.europython-society.org/

From daniel.gomes at sociomantic.com  Fri Oct 10 13:03:06 2014
From: daniel.gomes at sociomantic.com (Daniel Gomes)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 13:03:06 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results
In-Reply-To: <5437BBDB.6040906@europython.eu>
References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com>
 <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu>
 <6DFFD5DC-30E5-488F-AA75-FBE1CD3CB8CE@pyfidelity.com>
 <5437BBDB.6040906@europython.eu>
Message-ID: <5437BCEA.8060406@sociomantic.com>

On Sex 10 Out 2014 12:58:35 CEST, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> Hi Andreas,
>
> On 10.10.2014 12:22, Andreas Zeidler wrote:
>> hi marc-andre,
>>
>> could you please explain though, why EP 2015 won?t take place in berlin again?  or rather, why it?s even being considered to have it elsewhere?  as far as i?m aware the plan always was to have the conference in the same place for at least two years in a row.  and as far as i remember berlin was announced to hold it in 2014 and 2015.  what happened?
>
> As explained below, we are moving to a new organizational model
> for EuroPython 2015, which is different from the one used this year,
> so we need to run a new CFP for 2015, since the previous setup
> no longer applies.
>
> We'd love to receive as many proposals for EuroPython 2015 as
> possible, including one from a Berlin on-site team.
>
> BTW: We have another posting coming up which will introduce and
> explain the new model to a broader audience :-)
>
> Cheers,

Guys, hate to spam the group, but I've repeatedly tried to unsubscribe 
and your mailman seems to be sleeping on the job, I never got the 
confirmation email (it didn't land in the Spam folder either)... Could 
you please remove me from your mailing list? (and maybe fix your 
mailman too)

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From semen at trygub.com  Fri Oct 10 13:15:39 2014
From: semen at trygub.com (Semen Trygubenko / =?utf-8?B?0KHQtdC80LXQvSDQotGA0LjQs9GD0LHQtdC9?= =?utf-8?B?0LrQvg==?=)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:15:39 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results
In-Reply-To: <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu>
References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com>
 <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu>
Message-ID: <20141010111539.GC81766@inanna.trygub.com>

Dear All,

Why don't the EPS board and local organizers become the same thing?
EPS is all about the conference, right?
Why not elect EPS board every two years, and "tie" the board members
to a location where the conference is held biannualy?
This way the local organizers who "won" the next year would get
the chance to run the things the way they see fit
and also feel the responsibility and associated
potential unpleasantness that comes with being a member of the board.

There probably should be some continuity, e.g. two members from the previous
board become non-execs on the new board to pass on the knowledge, etc.
And the three new members, ideally, are prominent Python figures, living at
or somehow linked to the location where the conference is to be held.

Thanks,
Semen

PS It seems to me that this, at least on average, would lead to a more fault-tolerant and interesting
EuroPython ecosystem ? but that's, just, like my opinion, man :). Apologies, if you have already considered
this solution and disregarded it because of its shortcomings.


-- 
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From mal at europython.eu  Sat Oct 11 13:17:30 2014
From: mal at europython.eu (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:17:30 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Workgroups: Call for Volunteers
Message-ID: <543911CA.5010801@europython.eu>

(This post is also available for online reading at:
http://www.europython-society.org/post/99718376575/europython-workgroups-call-for-volunteers)

Dear EuroPython community,

the EuroPython Society is happy to announce a new organizational
concept that we'd like to put in place for the next EuroPython
conferences: the EuroPython Workgroups.

Motivation
----------

In the past, the EPS granted permission to use the brand to local
organizers based on a set of requirements, and the local organizing
team then had to run the event in collaboration with the EPS. Most of
the work was centered around the local team.

This model no longer scales and doesn?t encourage the community to take
part in the organization process. The workload and the financial risks
of running such a big conference for the local teams is very high.

Proposed New Structure (Workgroups)
-----------------------------------

The biggest change is the introduction of permanent workgroups
integrated with EPS and its activities. This change is designed to
address the issues mentioned above in a way which allows our
community to get more involved, while at the same time reducing
the risk and work load on individual teams.

Workgroups will be coordinated by the EuroPython Society board
based on the community feedback and proposals, from their definition
and creation to their implementation. The key workgroups we have
identified so far are:

 * Conference Administration (contracts, venue contact, ticket support,
   satellite conferences, legal support, insurance, licensing)

 * Finance (budget, controlling, accounting, billing, invoicing,
   taxes, payment system administration, Treasurer needs be part of
   this WG)

 * Sponsors (sponsor contacts, sponsor logistics, room/booth assignment,
   recruiting session, jobs fair, exhibit hall, startup row)

 * Communications (press, community relations,
   diversity/outreach/CoC, CoC contact, announcements, social media,
   attendee tools, volunteer  coordination, mailing lists)

 * Support (helpdesk, attendee support contact, visa help, travel
   management, chat support for attendees)

 * Financial Aid (setup, grant selection, aid organisation)

 * Marketing/Design (brochures, advertisements, banners, flyers,
   travel guide, t-shirts, lanyards, badges, panels, logo)

 * Program (talk selection, scheduling, session chairs,
   sprint/openspace/keynote/lightning talks/poster session
   organization, Young Coders session, Python for Teachers)

 * Web (web site support, ticket system, administration, backups,
   payment system integration, hosting, chat support for attendees)

 * Media (video recording, live streaming, live translations,
   uploads to YouTube and archive.org)

 * On-site Team (on-site support, local contact, help with venue
   selection, help with catering selection, partner program, social
   events, buddy program, internet access, venue contact, catering
   contact, on-site logistics)

All of these workgroups, except for the On-site Team, will remain
active when changing location. We expect to keep institutional
knowledge within the organization and make transitions to new
locations easier by using this approach.

The EuroPython Society collects and reviews the applications to
each workgroup. The EPS board will then vote on the chair and a set
of permanent workgroup members with (workgroup internal) voting
rights and then have the workgroup chair appoint additional
(non-voting) members as necessary.

Workgroups will be confirmed/reestablished by board vote every year,
this allows non-voting members to become voting members in the
following year.

Workgroups and board will update, coordinate and plan activities on a
regular basis. While every workgroup will be responsible for its own
coordination and establish a workflow that best fits its needs, we
expect all workgroups to integrate and interact with other workgroups
to create a productive work environment.

To simplify and speed up the workgroup setup, we will create a set of
workgroup guidelines which aim at collecting the institutional
knowledge gathered over the years. We will put these guidelines up
for comment in the coming weeks.

Call for Volunteers
-------------------

Please help us build EuroPython and keep making it better and better
every year.

If you want to help, please apply for one or more workgroups which
you feel match your interests and experience. If you'd like to help,
but don't have enough experience, yet are willing to learn, please
apply as well.

To apply please send an email to board at europython.eu with your
details, the motivation for applying (basically why and how you think
you could help) and the workgroup(s) you'd like to apply for.

Just to clarify: We will issue a separate Call for Participation
(CFP) for the On-site Team, so you don't need to apply for this
workgroup before we have selected an On-site Team.

Thank you,
--
EuroPython Society


From mal at europython.eu  Sat Oct 11 21:43:28 2014
From: mal at europython.eu (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:43:28 +0200
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results
In-Reply-To: <20141010111539.GC81766@inanna.trygub.com>
References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu>
 <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com>	<5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu>
 <20141010111539.GC81766@inanna.trygub.com>
Message-ID: <54398860.6060402@europython.eu>

Hi Semen,

thank you for your suggestions. Your approach looks very much
like what we essentially had in the early years of EuroPython.

The major problem with this approach was that we lost institutional
knowledge with every single location change and more recently,
the workload also increased to levels that resulted in more and more
on-site teams losing interest.

With the new workgroup approach we have just announced to a broader
public we expect to address and resolve these problems.

Please see
http://www.europython-society.org/post/99718376575/europython-workgroups-call-for-volunteers
for details.

Best Regards,
-- 
Marc-Andre Lemburg
Director
EuroPython Society
http://www.europython-society.org/


On 10.10.2014 13:15, Semen Trygubenko / ????? ?????????? wrote:
> Dear All,
> 
> Why don't the EPS board and local organizers become the same thing?
> EPS is all about the conference, right?
> Why not elect EPS board every two years, and "tie" the board members
> to a location where the conference is held biannualy?
> This way the local organizers who "won" the next year would get
> the chance to run the things the way they see fit
> and also feel the responsibility and associated
> potential unpleasantness that comes with being a member of the board.
> 
> There probably should be some continuity, e.g. two members from the previous
> board become non-execs on the new board to pass on the knowledge, etc.
> And the three new members, ideally, are prominent Python figures, living at
> or somehow linked to the location where the conference is to be held.
> 
> Thanks,
> Semen
> 
> PS It seems to me that this, at least on average, would lead to a more fault-tolerant and interesting
> EuroPython ecosystem ? but that's, just, like my opinion, man :). Apologies, if you have already considered
> this solution and disregarded it because of its shortcomings.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> EuroPython 2014 - July 21th-27th in Berlin
> EuroPython mailing list
> EuroPython at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython
> Attendee Wiki: https://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2014
> 


From mal at europython.eu  Fri Oct 31 18:28:26 2014
From: mal at europython.eu (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:28:26 +0100
Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2015 Call for Participation: On-site Teams
Message-ID: <5453C6BA.6080202@europython.eu>

The EuroPython Society (EPS) is happy to announce the Call for
Participation (CFP) for EuroPython 2015. The purpose of this call is
to select teams willing to help organize the EuroPython conference
on-site at a suitable location.


Call for Participation (CFP)
----------------------------

Please see the online versions of the Call for Participation posting
for details:

 * Call for Participation blog post:

http://www.europython-society.org/post/101421890815/europython-2015-call-for-participation-on-site-teams

 * Call for Participation PDF file:
   https://www.dropbox.com/s/6u78zb4v95h2lq5/EuroPython%20CFP%202015%20-%20Final.pdf?dl=1

We could also like to remind everyone interested in helping with the
EuroPython 2015 organization, that the Call for Volunteers is still
open:

 * EuroPython Workgroups: Call for Volunteers
   http://www.europython-society.org/post/99718376575/europython-workgroups-call-for-volunteers


Timeline for Proposals
----------------------

The Call for Participation will run until the following deadline for
submissions. Proposals must be submitted until midnight UTC on the
deadline day.

 * 2014-11-28 - Deadline for submissions (announcement + 4 weeks)

 * 2014-12-05 - Deadline for EPS to review proposals (1 week)

 * 2014-12-12 - Deadline for amended proposals (1 week)

 * 2014-12-26 - Decision on the next EP host (within 2 weeks)


Thank you,
--
EuroPython Society
http://www.europython-society.org/