From mal at europython.eu Thu Oct 9 11:42:52 2014 From: mal at europython.eu (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 11:42:52 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results Message-ID: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> (This post is also available for online reading at: http://www.europython-society.org/post/99555529425/europython-2014-feedback-results) We?d like to thank everyone who participated in the EuroPython 2014 feedback call. A total of 164 people have sent in their feedback. The results are now available as PDF: EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results https://www.dropbox.com/s/wxtmaxoki8mqie4/EuroPython-2014-Feedback.pdf?dl=1 As previously announced, we have removed the comment field entries to make sure that we don?t accidentally leak private information. A few key points can be extracted from the results: * the overall conference was a great success * most attendees (or at least the ones that participated in the questionnaire) were experienced Python users * attendees loved the professionally run venue, the social event, the food and drinks * quality of talks/trainings was good, but could see some improvement * the recruiting event did not meet expectations and needs to be improved for future years * about 2/3 of the attendees found the conference fee to be good value for money, about 1/3 would prefer lower fees * attendees would like to see the following improvements implemented/extended for future years: easy access to SIM cards, sponsored parties, workshops for beginners, business session for freelancers/projects * 98% of the attendees are looking forward to EuroPython 2015 We will use this feedback to continue to improve the attendee experience for EuroPython 2015. Helping with EuroPython 2015 ---------------------------- If you would like to help with EuroPython 2015, we invite you to join the EuroPython Society. Membership is free. Just go to our application page and enter your details. Please join and help us make a better conference: http://www.europython-society.org/application Enjoy, ? EuroPython Society From fklebczyk at gmail.com Thu Oct 9 14:12:14 2014 From: fklebczyk at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?RmlsaXAgS8WCxJliY3p5aw==?=) Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2014 14:12:14 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results In-Reply-To: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> Message-ID: <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com> W dniu 09.10.2014 11:42, M.-A. Lemburg pisze: > A total of 164 people have sent in their feedback. That's less than 15% attendees, in my opinion hard to call it a good representation, though it gives some information. Some time ago I've run into interesting blog post from this year EuroPython organizer and I recommend everyone to read it: https://www.andreas-jung.com/contents/europython-2014-summary-part-2 Interesting parts from that blog: --- "I can only summarize the behavior of the EPS as only-demanding, an arrogant top-down attitude and a conduct that is far away from being acceptable for an open-source community." "They have five persons on the board and their only day business is to meta-organize a EuroPython conference and dealing with EuroPython trademark issues. The real organization work is always carried out by the local organizers." "Both Fabio and Marc-Andr? had been involved (in a good and bad way) with the Berlin organizers over the last year." "Let us send the current EPS board (except Fabio) into the desert and install persons as board members that are interested in one thing: organizing further great conferences with local organizers in a constructive way instead of defending their only poor assets." --- Personally I think that the conference done in Berlin was good, despite it was 30% pricier that the one in Florence (in result less affordable for people living in Central-Eastern Europe). But anyway after reading that blog I wonder if EPS would care to explain openly to us what was the conflict between them and Berlin organizers about. Why the next EuroPython event (according to some rumors on the Internet) won't happen in Berlin, but in Vienna. If rumors are correct on what basis Vienna has been chosen? What is the experience of local organizers in running Python/PyCon conferences? Regards, Filip K??bczyk From mal at europython.eu Fri Oct 10 11:39:40 2014 From: mal at europython.eu (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 11:39:40 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results In-Reply-To: <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com> References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu> Hi Filip, we are aware of Andreas' blog post, but have intentionally not entered into a discussion, since we're focusing on next year's EuroPython conference using a new organizational model which addresses the issues we've found with the past model. Regarding the location for next year, we haven't decided anything yet, but are actively discussing with several teams to see whether they would like to participate in the EuroPython 2015 organization as on-site team in the context of the new workgroup model. If any other teams are interesting in entering discussions with us, please contact the EPS board. The choice of location will then follow a similar process as in previous years. The CFP will include the details. Regards, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg Director EuroPython Society http://www.europython-society.org/ From andi at pyfidelity.com Fri Oct 10 12:22:08 2014 From: andi at pyfidelity.com (Andreas Zeidler) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:22:08 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results In-Reply-To: <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu> References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com> <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu> Message-ID: <6DFFD5DC-30E5-488F-AA75-FBE1CD3CB8CE@pyfidelity.com> hi marc-andre, could you please explain though, why EP 2015 won?t take place in berlin again? or rather, why it?s even being considered to have it elsewhere? as far as i?m aware the plan always was to have the conference in the same place for at least two years in a row. and as far as i remember berlin was announced to hold it in 2014 and 2015. what happened? cheers, andi On 10 Oct 2014, at 11:39, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Hi Filip, > > we are aware of Andreas' blog post, but have intentionally not > entered into a discussion, since we're focusing on next year's > EuroPython conference using a new organizational model which > addresses the issues we've found with the past model. > > Regarding the location for next year, we haven't decided anything > yet, but are actively discussing with several teams to see > whether they would like to participate in the EuroPython 2015 > organization as on-site team in the context of the new > workgroup model. > > If any other teams are interesting in entering discussions with > us, please contact the EPS board. > > The choice of location will then follow a similar process as > in previous years. The CFP will include the details. > > Regards, > -- > Marc-Andre Lemburg > Director > EuroPython Society > http://www.europython-society.org/ > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython 2014 - July 21th-27th in Berlin > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > Attendee Wiki: https://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2014 -- pyfidelity.com From mal at europython.eu Fri Oct 10 12:58:35 2014 From: mal at europython.eu (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:58:35 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results In-Reply-To: <6DFFD5DC-30E5-488F-AA75-FBE1CD3CB8CE@pyfidelity.com> References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com> <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu> <6DFFD5DC-30E5-488F-AA75-FBE1CD3CB8CE@pyfidelity.com> Message-ID: <5437BBDB.6040906@europython.eu> Hi Andreas, On 10.10.2014 12:22, Andreas Zeidler wrote: > hi marc-andre, > > could you please explain though, why EP 2015 won?t take place in berlin again? or rather, why it?s even being considered to have it elsewhere? as far as i?m aware the plan always was to have the conference in the same place for at least two years in a row. and as far as i remember berlin was announced to hold it in 2014 and 2015. what happened? As explained below, we are moving to a new organizational model for EuroPython 2015, which is different from the one used this year, so we need to run a new CFP for 2015, since the previous setup no longer applies. We'd love to receive as many proposals for EuroPython 2015 as possible, including one from a Berlin on-site team. BTW: We have another posting coming up which will introduce and explain the new model to a broader audience :-) Cheers, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg Director EuroPython Society http://www.europython-society.org/ > On 10 Oct 2014, at 11:39, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: >> Hi Filip, >> >> we are aware of Andreas' blog post, but have intentionally not >> entered into a discussion, since we're focusing on next year's >> EuroPython conference using a new organizational model which >> addresses the issues we've found with the past model. >> >> Regarding the location for next year, we haven't decided anything >> yet, but are actively discussing with several teams to see >> whether they would like to participate in the EuroPython 2015 >> organization as on-site team in the context of the new >> workgroup model. >> >> If any other teams are interesting in entering discussions with >> us, please contact the EPS board. >> >> The choice of location will then follow a similar process as >> in previous years. The CFP will include the details. >> >> Regards, >> -- >> Marc-Andre Lemburg >> Director >> EuroPython Society >> http://www.europython-society.org/ From daniel.gomes at sociomantic.com Fri Oct 10 13:03:06 2014 From: daniel.gomes at sociomantic.com (Daniel Gomes) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 13:03:06 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results In-Reply-To: <5437BBDB.6040906@europython.eu> References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com> <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu> <6DFFD5DC-30E5-488F-AA75-FBE1CD3CB8CE@pyfidelity.com> <5437BBDB.6040906@europython.eu> Message-ID: <5437BCEA.8060406@sociomantic.com> On Sex 10 Out 2014 12:58:35 CEST, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > Hi Andreas, > > On 10.10.2014 12:22, Andreas Zeidler wrote: >> hi marc-andre, >> >> could you please explain though, why EP 2015 won?t take place in berlin again? or rather, why it?s even being considered to have it elsewhere? as far as i?m aware the plan always was to have the conference in the same place for at least two years in a row. and as far as i remember berlin was announced to hold it in 2014 and 2015. what happened? > > As explained below, we are moving to a new organizational model > for EuroPython 2015, which is different from the one used this year, > so we need to run a new CFP for 2015, since the previous setup > no longer applies. > > We'd love to receive as many proposals for EuroPython 2015 as > possible, including one from a Berlin on-site team. > > BTW: We have another posting coming up which will introduce and > explain the new model to a broader audience :-) > > Cheers, Guys, hate to spam the group, but I've repeatedly tried to unsubscribe and your mailman seems to be sleeping on the job, I never got the confirmation email (it didn't land in the Spam folder either)... Could you please remove me from your mailing list? (and maybe fix your mailman too) Cheers, -- *Daniel Gomes* | Team Lead | Sociomantic Labs www.sociomantic.com *S* dgomes.sociomantic Follow us on Twitter + Facebook + News | *We're hiring!* Check out our Careers page. Sociomantic Labs Logo This message and any attachments are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. From semen at trygub.com Fri Oct 10 13:15:39 2014 From: semen at trygub.com (Semen Trygubenko / =?utf-8?B?0KHQtdC80LXQvSDQotGA0LjQs9GD0LHQtdC9?= =?utf-8?B?0LrQvg==?=) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 12:15:39 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results In-Reply-To: <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu> References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com> <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu> Message-ID: <20141010111539.GC81766@inanna.trygub.com> Dear All, Why don't the EPS board and local organizers become the same thing? EPS is all about the conference, right? Why not elect EPS board every two years, and "tie" the board members to a location where the conference is held biannualy? This way the local organizers who "won" the next year would get the chance to run the things the way they see fit and also feel the responsibility and associated potential unpleasantness that comes with being a member of the board. There probably should be some continuity, e.g. two members from the previous board become non-execs on the new board to pass on the knowledge, etc. And the three new members, ideally, are prominent Python figures, living at or somehow linked to the location where the conference is to be held. Thanks, Semen PS It seems to me that this, at least on average, would lead to a more fault-tolerant and interesting EuroPython ecosystem ? but that's, just, like my opinion, man :). Apologies, if you have already considered this solution and disregarded it because of its shortcomings. -- ????? ?????????? http://trygub.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 181 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mal at europython.eu Sat Oct 11 13:17:30 2014 From: mal at europython.eu (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 13:17:30 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython Workgroups: Call for Volunteers Message-ID: <543911CA.5010801@europython.eu> (This post is also available for online reading at: http://www.europython-society.org/post/99718376575/europython-workgroups-call-for-volunteers) Dear EuroPython community, the EuroPython Society is happy to announce a new organizational concept that we'd like to put in place for the next EuroPython conferences: the EuroPython Workgroups. Motivation ---------- In the past, the EPS granted permission to use the brand to local organizers based on a set of requirements, and the local organizing team then had to run the event in collaboration with the EPS. Most of the work was centered around the local team. This model no longer scales and doesn?t encourage the community to take part in the organization process. The workload and the financial risks of running such a big conference for the local teams is very high. Proposed New Structure (Workgroups) ----------------------------------- The biggest change is the introduction of permanent workgroups integrated with EPS and its activities. This change is designed to address the issues mentioned above in a way which allows our community to get more involved, while at the same time reducing the risk and work load on individual teams. Workgroups will be coordinated by the EuroPython Society board based on the community feedback and proposals, from their definition and creation to their implementation. The key workgroups we have identified so far are: * Conference Administration (contracts, venue contact, ticket support, satellite conferences, legal support, insurance, licensing) * Finance (budget, controlling, accounting, billing, invoicing, taxes, payment system administration, Treasurer needs be part of this WG) * Sponsors (sponsor contacts, sponsor logistics, room/booth assignment, recruiting session, jobs fair, exhibit hall, startup row) * Communications (press, community relations, diversity/outreach/CoC, CoC contact, announcements, social media, attendee tools, volunteer coordination, mailing lists) * Support (helpdesk, attendee support contact, visa help, travel management, chat support for attendees) * Financial Aid (setup, grant selection, aid organisation) * Marketing/Design (brochures, advertisements, banners, flyers, travel guide, t-shirts, lanyards, badges, panels, logo) * Program (talk selection, scheduling, session chairs, sprint/openspace/keynote/lightning talks/poster session organization, Young Coders session, Python for Teachers) * Web (web site support, ticket system, administration, backups, payment system integration, hosting, chat support for attendees) * Media (video recording, live streaming, live translations, uploads to YouTube and archive.org) * On-site Team (on-site support, local contact, help with venue selection, help with catering selection, partner program, social events, buddy program, internet access, venue contact, catering contact, on-site logistics) All of these workgroups, except for the On-site Team, will remain active when changing location. We expect to keep institutional knowledge within the organization and make transitions to new locations easier by using this approach. The EuroPython Society collects and reviews the applications to each workgroup. The EPS board will then vote on the chair and a set of permanent workgroup members with (workgroup internal) voting rights and then have the workgroup chair appoint additional (non-voting) members as necessary. Workgroups will be confirmed/reestablished by board vote every year, this allows non-voting members to become voting members in the following year. Workgroups and board will update, coordinate and plan activities on a regular basis. While every workgroup will be responsible for its own coordination and establish a workflow that best fits its needs, we expect all workgroups to integrate and interact with other workgroups to create a productive work environment. To simplify and speed up the workgroup setup, we will create a set of workgroup guidelines which aim at collecting the institutional knowledge gathered over the years. We will put these guidelines up for comment in the coming weeks. Call for Volunteers ------------------- Please help us build EuroPython and keep making it better and better every year. If you want to help, please apply for one or more workgroups which you feel match your interests and experience. If you'd like to help, but don't have enough experience, yet are willing to learn, please apply as well. To apply please send an email to board at europython.eu with your details, the motivation for applying (basically why and how you think you could help) and the workgroup(s) you'd like to apply for. Just to clarify: We will issue a separate Call for Participation (CFP) for the On-site Team, so you don't need to apply for this workgroup before we have selected an On-site Team. Thank you, -- EuroPython Society From mal at europython.eu Sat Oct 11 21:43:28 2014 From: mal at europython.eu (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:43:28 +0200 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2014 Feedback Results In-Reply-To: <20141010111539.GC81766@inanna.trygub.com> References: <5436589C.204@europython.eu> <54367B9E.10109@gmail.com> <5437A95C.9070508@europython.eu> <20141010111539.GC81766@inanna.trygub.com> Message-ID: <54398860.6060402@europython.eu> Hi Semen, thank you for your suggestions. Your approach looks very much like what we essentially had in the early years of EuroPython. The major problem with this approach was that we lost institutional knowledge with every single location change and more recently, the workload also increased to levels that resulted in more and more on-site teams losing interest. With the new workgroup approach we have just announced to a broader public we expect to address and resolve these problems. Please see http://www.europython-society.org/post/99718376575/europython-workgroups-call-for-volunteers for details. Best Regards, -- Marc-Andre Lemburg Director EuroPython Society http://www.europython-society.org/ On 10.10.2014 13:15, Semen Trygubenko / ????? ?????????? wrote: > Dear All, > > Why don't the EPS board and local organizers become the same thing? > EPS is all about the conference, right? > Why not elect EPS board every two years, and "tie" the board members > to a location where the conference is held biannualy? > This way the local organizers who "won" the next year would get > the chance to run the things the way they see fit > and also feel the responsibility and associated > potential unpleasantness that comes with being a member of the board. > > There probably should be some continuity, e.g. two members from the previous > board become non-execs on the new board to pass on the knowledge, etc. > And the three new members, ideally, are prominent Python figures, living at > or somehow linked to the location where the conference is to be held. > > Thanks, > Semen > > PS It seems to me that this, at least on average, would lead to a more fault-tolerant and interesting > EuroPython ecosystem ? but that's, just, like my opinion, man :). Apologies, if you have already considered > this solution and disregarded it because of its shortcomings. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > EuroPython 2014 - July 21th-27th in Berlin > EuroPython mailing list > EuroPython at python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/europython > Attendee Wiki: https://wiki.python.org/moin/EuroPython2014 > From mal at europython.eu Fri Oct 31 18:28:26 2014 From: mal at europython.eu (M.-A. Lemburg) Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 18:28:26 +0100 Subject: [EuroPython] EuroPython 2015 Call for Participation: On-site Teams Message-ID: <5453C6BA.6080202@europython.eu> The EuroPython Society (EPS) is happy to announce the Call for Participation (CFP) for EuroPython 2015. The purpose of this call is to select teams willing to help organize the EuroPython conference on-site at a suitable location. Call for Participation (CFP) ---------------------------- Please see the online versions of the Call for Participation posting for details: * Call for Participation blog post: http://www.europython-society.org/post/101421890815/europython-2015-call-for-participation-on-site-teams * Call for Participation PDF file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/6u78zb4v95h2lq5/EuroPython%20CFP%202015%20-%20Final.pdf?dl=1 We could also like to remind everyone interested in helping with the EuroPython 2015 organization, that the Call for Volunteers is still open: * EuroPython Workgroups: Call for Volunteers http://www.europython-society.org/post/99718376575/europython-workgroups-call-for-volunteers Timeline for Proposals ---------------------- The Call for Participation will run until the following deadline for submissions. Proposals must be submitted until midnight UTC on the deadline day. * 2014-11-28 - Deadline for submissions (announcement + 4 weeks) * 2014-12-05 - Deadline for EPS to review proposals (1 week) * 2014-12-12 - Deadline for amended proposals (1 week) * 2014-12-26 - Decision on the next EP host (within 2 weeks) Thank you, -- EuroPython Society http://www.europython-society.org/