From brianhray at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 22:13:47 2015
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:13:47 -0400
Subject: [group-organizers] Child Care for Python events?
Message-ID: <CANKg38sQ9VK77WLOBqEuMW7Q-PLKVONAGvgBobZ9EPcO4auqKQ@mail.gmail.com>

We (Chipy: Chicago Python User Group) are thinking about providing free
Child Care during our monthly meetings. Anyone else doing this?

I was thinking about asking a close friend of mine (who is a MD) to handle
a trip to a movie in the park or a near by arts/craft center. Logistics may
be tricky. What else?

What results do you think we should expect for say, a 80-100 person meeting?

Any concerns or suggestions?


-- 
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@brianray
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From jdumblauskas at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 23:21:38 2015
From: jdumblauskas at gmail.com (Jerry Dumblauskas)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:21:38 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] Child Care for Python events?
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did you mean to send this out to the general list?

As a father of 5 boys, I think this is a great idea, but will be very
tricky to implement.  There is a wide age range of kids to consider, and
nowadays alot of stuff is related to kid/provider ratio -- if we have
issues with getting an accurate headcount sans kids, it may be more tricky
with them.

But gauging general interest would be a good first step.

thx

Jerry

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:

> We (Chipy: Chicago Python User Group) are thinking about providing free
> Child Care during our monthly meetings. Anyone else doing this?
>
> I was thinking about asking a close friend of mine (who is a MD) to handle
> a trip to a movie in the park or a near by arts/craft center. Logistics may
> be tricky. What else?
>
> What results do you think we should expect for say, a 80-100 person
> meeting?
>
> Any concerns or suggestions?
>
>
> --
> Brian Ray
> @brianray
> (773) 669-7717
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From brianhray at gmail.com  Mon Jul 20 23:38:38 2015
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 17:38:38 -0400
Subject: [group-organizers] Child Care for Python events?
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Hi Jerry: I did intend to send this out to group-organizers. Once we see
some pros/cons, we can circle back with a broader audience.

One thing I want to get a handle on is how effective this might be before
we even ask our general lists. Also, cost may be an issue if I am unable to
convince my friends who happen to be board certified healthcare
professional to actually watch the kids.

Good that you mention constraints. What do you think they should be?
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From shekay at pobox.com  Mon Jul 20 23:39:25 2015
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:39:25 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] Child Care for Python events?
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We've had some discussion about this at Pumping Station: One because it
would help people participate in more events. We have more logistical
problems than a user group (our building is not kid safe, for one), so I
think you'll find it easier.

We've had some discussion here which you may find useful since it links to
Chicago area providers and discusses issues.

https://wiki.pumpingstationone.org/Childcare

We are thinking of having a provider come out to look at our building to
let us know if care would be impossible. At which point, we might also see
if the theatre across the street might be willing to let us use there
space. Or, do things informally.

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Jerry Dumblauskas <jdumblauskas at gmail.com>
wrote:

> did you mean to send this out to the general list?
>
> As a father of 5 boys, I think this is a great idea, but will be very
> tricky to implement.  There is a wide age range of kids to consider, and
> nowadays alot of stuff is related to kid/provider ratio -- if we have
> issues with getting an accurate headcount sans kids, it may be more tricky
> with them.
>
> But gauging general interest would be a good first step.
>
> thx
>
> Jerry
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > We (Chipy: Chicago Python User Group) are thinking about providing free
> > Child Care during our monthly meetings. Anyone else doing this?
> >
> > I was thinking about asking a close friend of mine (who is a MD) to
> handle
> > a trip to a movie in the park or a near by arts/craft center. Logistics
> may
> > be tricky. What else?
> >
> > What results do you think we should expect for say, a 80-100 person
> > meeting?
> >
> > Any concerns or suggestions?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Brian Ray
> > @brianray
> > (773) 669-7717
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From willingc at willingconsulting.com  Tue Jul 21 00:22:31 2015
From: willingc at willingconsulting.com (Carol Willing)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:22:31 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] Child Care for Python events?
In-Reply-To: <CAHCs_rb5ksCXJ6_O+81DEiJWuZiGpdOWo2ci21fiWOcxhzqApA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANKg38sQ9VK77WLOBqEuMW7Q-PLKVONAGvgBobZ9EPcO4auqKQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CA+G_OOv1HntAx9s3TNf7Kk4=gBppCpu6fSBu3s6cMN387WV3pA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAHCs_rb5ksCXJ6_O+81DEiJWuZiGpdOWo2ci21fiWOcxhzqApA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55AD74A7.5000109@willingconsulting.com>

Attendees to San Diego Python User Groups may bring their children, and 
some regularly do. While we do not have the resources to provide 
childcare, children are welcome to accompany their parent.

On 7/20/15 2:39 PM, sheila miguez wrote:
> We've had some discussion about this at Pumping Station: One because it
> would help people participate in more events. We have more logistical
> problems than a user group (our building is not kid safe, for one), so I
> think you'll find it easier.
>
> We've had some discussion here which you may find useful since it links to
> Chicago area providers and discusses issues.
>
> https://wiki.pumpingstationone.org/Childcare
>
> We are thinking of having a provider come out to look at our building to
> let us know if care would be impossible. At which point, we might also see
> if the theatre across the street might be willing to let us use there
> space. Or, do things informally.
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:21 PM, Jerry Dumblauskas <jdumblauskas at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> did you mean to send this out to the general list?
>>
>> As a father of 5 boys, I think this is a great idea, but will be very
>> tricky to implement.  There is a wide age range of kids to consider, and
>> nowadays alot of stuff is related to kid/provider ratio -- if we have
>> issues with getting an accurate headcount sans kids, it may be more tricky
>> with them.
>>
>> But gauging general interest would be a good first step.
>>
>> thx
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We (Chipy: Chicago Python User Group) are thinking about providing free
>>> Child Care during our monthly meetings. Anyone else doing this?
>>>
>>> I was thinking about asking a close friend of mine (who is a MD) to
>> handle
>>> a trip to a movie in the park or a near by arts/craft center. Logistics
>> may
>>> be tricky. What else?
>>>
>>> What results do you think we should expect for say, a 80-100 person
>>> meeting?
>>>
>>> Any concerns or suggestions?
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Brian Ray
>>> @brianray
>>> (773) 669-7717
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From asheesh at asheesh.org  Tue Jul 21 00:51:11 2015
From: asheesh at asheesh.org (Asheesh Laroia)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:51:11 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] Child Care for Python events?
In-Reply-To: <55AD74A7.5000109@willingconsulting.com>
References: <CANKg38sQ9VK77WLOBqEuMW7Q-PLKVONAGvgBobZ9EPcO4auqKQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Carol Willing <
willingc at willingconsulting.com> wrote:

> Attendees to San Diego Python User Groups may bring their children, and
> some regularly do. While we do not have the resources to provide childcare,
> children are welcome to accompany their parent.


That's great to hear, Carol!

If you have time or inclination, I'd love if you can say how commonly do
people do that. I think that'll be instructive for other groups trying to
plan something similar.
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From strombrg at gmail.com  Tue Jul 21 01:00:47 2015
From: strombrg at gmail.com (Dan Stromberg)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2015 16:00:47 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] Child Care for Python events?
In-Reply-To: <CANKg38sQ9VK77WLOBqEuMW7Q-PLKVONAGvgBobZ9EPcO4auqKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANKg38sQ9VK77WLOBqEuMW7Q-PLKVONAGvgBobZ9EPcO4auqKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOvKW54GVYO-K3FD97AFgHgcZibk=BPm-gx4Kz8B9qL7q-Xv4g@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 1:13 PM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:

> We (Chipy: Chicago Python User Group) are thinking about providing free
> Child Care during our monthly meetings. Anyone else doing this?
>

It's a really good idea, but it might not hurt to consult with a lawyer
first.

It's possible you'd want insurance, and I guess it's conceivable you would
need a license. Probably not, but it'd probably be good to make sure one
way or the other.
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From ntoll at ntoll.org  Tue Jul 21 09:31:15 2015
From: ntoll at ntoll.org (Nicholas H.Tollervey)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 08:31:15 +0100
Subject: [group-organizers] Child Care for Python events?
In-Reply-To: <CANKg38sQ9VK77WLOBqEuMW7Q-PLKVONAGvgBobZ9EPcO4auqKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANKg38sQ9VK77WLOBqEuMW7Q-PLKVONAGvgBobZ9EPcO4auqKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <55ADF543.6010204@ntoll.org>

On 20/07/15 21:13, Brian Ray wrote:
> We (Chipy: Chicago Python User Group) are thinking about providing free
> Child Care during our monthly meetings. Anyone else doing this?
> 
> I was thinking about asking a close friend of mine (who is a MD) to handle
> a trip to a movie in the park or a near by arts/craft center. Logistics may
> be tricky. What else?
> 
> What results do you think we should expect for say, a 80-100 person meeting?
> 
> Any concerns or suggestions?
> 
> 

We're offering a free cr?che to all attendees at this year's PyCon UK.
It was also offered at the recent EuroDjango Con.

Put simply, it was a field on our ticket booking form and we have a
childcare provider lined up once we know the numbers closer to the event
date. We simply have to put aside a room for the cr?che and our provider
is bringing "equipment" appropriate for the ages of the kids who'll be
attending.

BTW, we also have a kids' day where 100 kids between the ages of 7-18
will be turning up to learn Python (http://pyconuk.org/education#kids).

Happy to answer any questions.

Greetings from EuroPython in a hot and humid Bilbao!

:-)

N.

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From marrakis at gmail.com  Thu Jul 23 16:24:37 2015
From: marrakis at gmail.com (Mathieu Leduc-Hamel)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 14:24:37 +0000
Subject: [group-organizers] Child Care for Python events?
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At PyCon we've picked Kimberlee Care (http://www.kimberleecare.com/) and i
think everyone was more than happy by the service that we've got !

Le mar. 21 juil. 2015 ? 03:31, Nicholas H.Tollervey <ntoll at ntoll.org> a
?crit :

> On 20/07/15 21:13, Brian Ray wrote:
> > We (Chipy: Chicago Python User Group) are thinking about providing free
> > Child Care during our monthly meetings. Anyone else doing this?
> >
> > I was thinking about asking a close friend of mine (who is a MD) to
> handle
> > a trip to a movie in the park or a near by arts/craft center. Logistics
> may
> > be tricky. What else?
> >
> > What results do you think we should expect for say, a 80-100 person
> meeting?
> >
> > Any concerns or suggestions?
> >
> >
>
> We're offering a free cr?che to all attendees at this year's PyCon UK.
> It was also offered at the recent EuroDjango Con.
>
> Put simply, it was a field on our ticket booking form and we have a
> childcare provider lined up once we know the numbers closer to the event
> date. We simply have to put aside a room for the cr?che and our provider
> is bringing "equipment" appropriate for the ages of the kids who'll be
> attending.
>
> BTW, we also have a kids' day where 100 kids between the ages of 7-18
> will be turning up to learn Python (http://pyconuk.org/education#kids).
>
> Happy to answer any questions.
>
> Greetings from EuroPython in a hot and humid Bilbao!
>
> :-)
>
> N.
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From dinaldo at gmail.com  Tue Jul 28 23:27:04 2015
From: dinaldo at gmail.com (Don Sheu)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 14:27:04 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] Our Speakers for the Past Year
Message-ID: <CACvX9QDe7HwyPF8LjrXYxuvd=G13hziEYqzKhGvCkhfsS3Z4wA@mail.gmail.com>

Next month is our 1st anniversary. We're asking our community to vote for
favorite talk. To facilitate this, I put together a list of speakers and
topics. We've been very fortunate in attracting great speakers and
interesting topics.

Also 44% of our speakers were women.

Wanted to share with the group. Here's the Google Sheet,
http://bit.ly/1Sdu1tC

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From shekay at pobox.com  Thu Jul 30 16:49:35 2015
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:49:35 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] How to suggest videos for pyvideo.org
Message-ID: <CAHCs_rZFvU+Fjz7jOmFt43rTVzOJtbURnQecQ3EXYHO5V4=pVg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I finally wrote a wiki page about how to suggest videos for pyvideo.org.

<https://github.com/pyvideo/pyvideo/wiki/Suggesting-videos-for-the-site>

This goes in a little bit of detail about the type of information we'd like
about videos.

cheers!

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From brianhray at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 17:04:01 2015
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:04:01 -0400
Subject: [group-organizers] How to suggest videos for pyvideo.org
In-Reply-To: <CAHCs_rZFvU+Fjz7jOmFt43rTVzOJtbURnQecQ3EXYHO5V4=pVg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CANKg38svKwL_GJ=PjjXo0W5cxyusdw-nyKgoPTDnFO6vHEVv8g@mail.gmail.com>

Sheila:

Outside of conferences, is it possible to submit videos one records of
their own desktop? For example, say I want to record myself going through a
tutorial with just screenshare and audio. How does this work? Will PyVideo
host? What software and format do I need to use?


On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:49 AM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I finally wrote a wiki page about how to suggest videos for pyvideo.org.
>
> <https://github.com/pyvideo/pyvideo/wiki/Suggesting-videos-for-the-site>
>
> This goes in a little bit of detail about the type of information we'd like
> about videos.
>
> cheers!
>
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From shekay at pobox.com  Thu Jul 30 17:31:31 2015
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 10:31:31 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] How to suggest videos for pyvideo.org
In-Reply-To: <CANKg38svKwL_GJ=PjjXo0W5cxyusdw-nyKgoPTDnFO6vHEVv8g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAHCs_rZFvU+Fjz7jOmFt43rTVzOJtbURnQecQ3EXYHO5V4=pVg@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAHCs_rYvjLBce6Z-EE_ga0a=bmpO1DC3GCu913+vrsQ6K333iQ@mail.gmail.com>

I've talked this over with Will (I've cc-d him so he can pipe up if I have
it wrong) before because I was wondering about having a category for
Software Carpentry videos. The consensus we reached was to index events
versus one-off videos. If you or anyone have a corner case that you think
might fit, I'd recommend opening an issue in pyvideo/pyvideo.

Now on to the next questions.

For hosting, right now I'd say to host on YouTube and also upload the
file(s) to a bucket on the Internet Archive. I have $reasons I can tl;dr if
anyone is curious.

For screen capture and audio,

I'm going to cc Carl because he knows more about the hardware method than I
do. I'm also cc-ing Greg because he has thought about this a great deal.

Can we fip this list to public so that I can link to posts to people who
aren't subscribed? I could link this one to the Software Carpentry list and
ask if they have more recommendations.

For software, I don't have experience with that, but on the Software
Carpentry mailing list there was a post about this recently, <
http://lists.software-carpentry.org/pipermail/discuss_lists.software-carpentry.org/2015-June/003148.html>
and as of that post, Camstasia is recommended. I have no experience with it.

For stuff without sound, I am obsessed with finding tools for excellently
recording terminals, I don't have a favorite and I haven't experimented a
whole lot.  I recently discovered mkcast, <
http://lists.software-carpentry.org/pipermail/discuss_lists.software-carpentry.org/2015-July/003200.html>
which is neat because it overlays characters you type. That's nice for
teaching because it shows invisible characters.

on a tangent, for live casting, I've used ttycast before, which was kickass
because it gave a webpage where people could follow along and copy-paste
text. but better would be something that allows live casting which displays
an overlay of the keys that are being pressed.

For format choice

From my point of view,

1. Anything that you can upload to youtube so that I can embed it in
pyvideo.
2. Anything that is a FLOSS friendly format that you can upload to
archive.org or wikimedia commons so that I can provide a link to a
downloadable file that anyone can use.

A nice feature of archive.org is that you can upload something and it will
transcode the heck out of things and you'll end up with all kinds of
formats. You might want to do the transcoding yourself in order to get the
best results, ask Carl about that because he has a lot of experience
transcoding things and picking formats and picking the best settings.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sheila:
>
> Outside of conferences, is it possible to submit videos one records of
> their own desktop? For example, say I want to record myself going through a
> tutorial with just screenshare and audio. How does this work? Will PyVideo
> host? What software and format do I need to use?
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:49 AM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I finally wrote a wiki page about how to suggest videos for pyvideo.org.
>>
>> <https://github.com/pyvideo/pyvideo/wiki/Suggesting-videos-for-the-site>
>>
>> This goes in a little bit of detail about the type of information we'd
>> like
>> about videos.
>>
>> cheers!
>>
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From shekay at pobox.com  Thu Jul 30 17:32:31 2015
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 10:32:31 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] Please change this list to have public archives
Message-ID: <CAHCs_rbUjwejO8a0D7wuFt8E8CzaiGdMT02qg7dSYF0uSW=utg@mail.gmail.com>

I've wanted to provide links to posts for people multiple times now, and
can't.

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From brianhray at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 17:40:34 2015
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:40:34 -0400
Subject: [group-organizers] Please change this list to have public
	archives
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-1

I am not sure I agree with the change in the setting for group organizers
as we may want to discuss things we (as group organizers) want to discuss
with other group organizers before proposing to a public forum. However, I
would love to hear what others think.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:32 AM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:

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> can't.
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From shekay at pobox.com  Thu Jul 30 18:11:06 2015
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:11:06 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] Please change this list to have public
	archives
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I'm +1 since other organizer groups do it and because there isn't years
worth of private history. In mailing lists with years worth of private
history, I'd be -1.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:

> -1
>
> I am not sure I agree with the change in the setting for group organizers
> as we may want to discuss things we (as group organizers) want to discuss
> with other group organizers before proposing to a public forum. However, I
> would love to hear what others think.
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:32 AM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> I've wanted to provide links to posts for people multiple times now, and
>> can't.
>>
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From mal at egenix.com  Thu Jul 30 18:13:13 2015
From: mal at egenix.com (M.-A. Lemburg)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 18:13:13 +0200
Subject: [group-organizers] Please change this list to have public
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On 30.07.2015 18:11, sheila miguez wrote:
> I'm +1 since other organizer groups do it and because there isn't years
> worth of private history. In mailing lists with years worth of private
> history, I'd be -1.

+1 as well.

> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> -1
>>
>> I am not sure I agree with the change in the setting for group organizers
>> as we may want to discuss things we (as group organizers) want to discuss
>> with other group organizers before proposing to a public forum. However, I
>> would love to hear what others think.
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:32 AM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've wanted to provide links to posts for people multiple times now, and
>>> can't.

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From willingc at willingconsulting.com  Thu Jul 30 18:16:32 2015
From: willingc at willingconsulting.com (Carol Willing)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:16:32 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] Please change this list to have public
 archives
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On 7/30/15 9:13 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
> On 30.07.2015 18:11, sheila miguez wrote:
>> I'm +1 since other organizer groups do it and because there isn't years
>> worth of private history. In mailing lists with years worth of private
>> history, I'd be -1.
> +1 as well.

+1 as well. Public archives are a valuable resource for sharing 
knowledge with *potential* group organizers.

>
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> -1
>>>
>>> I am not sure I agree with the change in the setting for group organizers
>>> as we may want to discuss things we (as group organizers) want to discuss
>>> with other group organizers before proposing to a public forum. However, I
>>> would love to hear what others think.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:32 AM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've wanted to provide links to posts for people multiple times now, and
>>>> can't.


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From shekay at pobox.com  Thu Jul 30 19:00:40 2015
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 12:00:40 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] handling incidents (cf public vs private)
Message-ID: <CAHCs_rY0Gc00L4W86_0fj3cfb2nTU9AYGT6JzdKXaBfodrTk1g@mail.gmail.com>

One situation where I'd want private discussion is when handling an
incident like this one [1], but in that case I would have absolutely not
discussed this on this list even if this list was private. I only wanted to
discuss it with the few organizers of the CPW event.

[1] https://openhatch.org/blog/2013/dealing-with-uncomfortable/

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From brianhray at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 20:35:47 2015
From: brianhray at gmail.com (Brian Ray)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:35:47 -0400
Subject: [group-organizers] handling incidents (cf public vs private)
In-Reply-To: <CAHCs_rY0Gc00L4W86_0fj3cfb2nTU9AYGT6JzdKXaBfodrTk1g@mail.gmail.com>
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That is scary. I can't recall ever kicking anyone out of a user group
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From dinaldo at gmail.com  Thu Jul 30 20:42:39 2015
From: dinaldo at gmail.com (Don Sheu)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:42:39 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] handling incidents (cf public vs private)
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Good share Sheila. We haven't had any reported incidents, but we want to
dedicate our second year of PuPPy to making sure we're a welcoming group
for everybody. We made oblique reference to PyCon's code of conduct. But
we've finally published it to our Meetup page. Next meeting I'll share with
our collected group what it means.

Dusty Phillips made a good point, nobody should be in a situation that
feels uncomfortable independent of gender and race.

Good stuff.
?

On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:00 AM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:

> One situation where I'd want private discussion is when handling an
> incident like this one [1], but in that case I would have absolutely not
> discussed this on this list even if this list was private. I only wanted to
> discuss it with the few organizers of the CPW event.
>
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>
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From trey at treyhunner.com  Fri Jul 31 02:25:02 2015
From: trey at treyhunner.com (Trey Hunner)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 17:25:02 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] Please change this list to have public
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On 07/30/2015 09:16 AM, Carol Willing wrote:
> On 7/30/15 9:13 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote:
>> On 30.07.2015 18:11, sheila miguez wrote:
>>> I'm +1 since other organizer groups do it and because there isn't years
>>> worth of private history. In mailing lists with years worth of private
>>> history, I'd be -1.
>> +1 as well.
>
> +1 as well. Public archives are a valuable resource for sharing
> knowledge with *potential* group organizers.

+1 also.  It seems like the majority of the discussions on this list
could be made public.

It would also be nice to have a place to discuss matters that should
remain private, but that seems like a secondary need.  Personally, I
usually feel more comfortable discussing sensitive matters in private
chats rather than email lists.

>
>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Brian Ray <brianhray at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> -1
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure I agree with the change in the setting for group
>>>> organizers
>>>> as we may want to discuss things we (as group organizers) want to
>>>> discuss
>>>> with other group organizers before proposing to a public forum.
>>>> However, I
>>>> would love to hear what others think.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:32 AM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I've wanted to provide links to posts for people multiple times
>>>>> now, and
>>>>> can't.
>
>

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From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
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> +1


The consensus is for a public group. When can this happen?


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From shekay at pobox.com  Fri Jul 31 19:20:58 2015
From: shekay at pobox.com (sheila miguez)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:20:58 -0500
Subject: [group-organizers] handling incidents (cf public vs private)
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On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dusty Phillips made a good point, nobody should be in a situation that
> feels uncomfortable independent of gender and race.


I think this is an excellent dream, but it will take a long time to achieve.

On the path towards the goal, people become uncomfortable because they
learn that they have commited -isms in the past. I get distressed when I
remember sexist, racist, and ablists things I've done in the past, and end
of working through those feelings and educating myself.

For example, as someone who has to work extra hard to develop social
skills, I've had to learn no to violates all the rules in the Recurse
Center's manual, <https://www.recurse.com/manual#sec-environment>, and it's
a continual challenge. I do the "well actually" and "backseat driving" a
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From dinaldo at gmail.com  Fri Jul 31 19:32:57 2015
From: dinaldo at gmail.com (Don Sheu)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:32:57 -0700
Subject: [group-organizers] handling incidents (cf public vs private)
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I don't want to speak for Dusty, but I think his point is that yes we
support women but not to forget other marginalized populations. Of course
Naomi Ceder has been at the forefront of transgender awareness amongst
engineering circles globally. We do have a trans member in Seattle also. We
certainly want to encourage more minorities to participate. Weirdly for
example we're way behind in Asian American male participation at our
events.

I contacted Ada Initiative about information on their Ally Workshop. I
missed it at PyCon because I flew out on the Sunday it was held.
Disappointingly the response was if I have to ask for the price I can't
afford it.


?

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 10:20 AM, sheila miguez <shekay at pobox.com> wrote:

>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 1:42 PM, Don Sheu <dinaldo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dusty Phillips made a good point, nobody should be in a situation that
>> feels uncomfortable independent of gender and race.
>
>
> I think this is an excellent dream, but it will take a long time to
> achieve.
>
> On the path towards the goal, people become uncomfortable because they
> learn that they have commited -isms in the past. I get distressed when I
> remember sexist, racist, and ablists things I've done in the past, and end
> of working through those feelings and educating myself.
>
> For example, as someone who has to work extra hard to develop social
> skills, I've had to learn no to violates all the rules in the Recurse
> Center's manual, <https://www.recurse.com/manual#sec-environment>, and
> it's a continual challenge. I do the "well actually" and "backseat driving"
> a lot.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> shekay at pobox.com
>



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