Fwd: Re: [Tutor] [Edu-sig] [Idle-dev] IDLE's save-before-run requirement

David Scherer dscherer@vysics.com
Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:04:36 -0400


Hi all!

I have no objection whatsoever to giving someone else idle-fork.  The
sourceforge project was created *after* I had mostly stopped active work
on my enhancements to IDLE, so that *other* people could contribute.
Here's what I said last year:

> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 1:43 PM
>
> On Thu, 10 Aug 2000, Guido van Rossum wrote:
> 
> > What happened to the idea of producing a (temporary?) fork 
> of IDLE at 
> > SourceForge to get more people to work on these things?
> > 
> > I can't offer to participate, but I don't want to stifle 
> development 
> > either!
> 
> As I recall, I made the suggestion and you volunteered me to 
> do it :) Unfortunately, I didn't have the spare cycles at the time.
> 
> I've started the process of creating a sourceforge project, 
> and I'll upload my version of IDLE into CVS once it exists.  
> However, I don't currently have time to do much work on IDLE 
> either, so I hope other people are interested in being 
> developers.  I will give anyone who asks developer or admin access.

I think that pretty much states my position now, as well.  Enjoy!

(Some things to keep in mind: the largest difference between idle-fork
and the mainstream IDLE of the time was the addition of remote process
functionality similar to what Guido discussed.  It doesn't have quite as
gaping a security hole, because the client process makes a connection to
IDLE instead of the other way around, but I can't make any unequivocal
guarantees about its security on a multi-user box.  In any case, if you
are planning on checking Guido's code in, you will have to remove mine!)

Dave

> -----Original Message-----
> From: idle-dev-admin@python.org 
> [mailto:idle-dev-admin@python.org] On Behalf Of Guido van Rossum
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:11 PM
> To: stephen
> Cc: idle-dev@python.org
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: [Tutor] [Edu-sig] [Idle-dev] IDLE's 
> save-before-run requirement
> 
> 
> Hi Stephen (what's your last name???).
> 
> Your plan sounds good to me.  You can be the project 
> coordinator for IDLE, and you keep me in the loop to help you 
> decide on crucial issues.
> 
> The list of things you want to do looks good except I'm not 
> keen on templates (I find them crutches).  Your first goal 
> ought to be to get the idle-fork project up to the same level 
> as the current Python CVS version of IDLE.  Then I can check 
> in the "remote" options and you can take it from there.
> 
> If you want to I can add you to the project admins right now, 
> but I'd like to wait a bit until I hear from David Scherer 
> (who is the originator).
> 
> David, I hope you're on this list!
> 
> --Guido van Rossum (home page: http://www.python.org/~guido/)
> 
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