[Idle-dev] Fixing and Improving IDLE

Roger Serwy roger.serwy at gmail.com
Mon Dec 12 22:04:02 CET 2011


IdleX - http://idlex.sourceforge.net

It's a collection of extensions and bug fixes for stock IDLE. It is not 
a fork as much as a wrapper.

On 12/12/2011 02:58 PM, Sean Wolfe wrote:
> Got it. Let me read up on idle hacking and familiarize myself with the
> bug tracker and I'll get back with you.
>
> What's idleX? Funny, I was thinking down the line of making my own
> fork of idle and calling it idleXL . Haha.
>
>
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> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Roger Serwy<roger.serwy at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> I am glad that you are willing to help with fixing IDLE. Tkinter experience
>> is not a strong prerequisite; you can contribute simply by testing patches
>> already provided and giving your feedback. With more reviewers we can
>> iron-out any unanticipated side-effects.
>>
>> I can offer what I know about IDLE's internals if you or anyone else needs
>> it (while it is still fresh in my memory) .
>>
>> Al Sweigart's article discusses several important shortcomings of IDLE. Nick
>> Coghlan created a meta-issue for it: #13504.  Some of those issues are
>> actually fixed in IdleX.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/12/2011 01:30 PM, Sean Wolfe wrote:
>>> Nice to see this mail! I'm a big fan of IDLE though and it's nice to
>>> see. I'm not really a IDLE developer yet but I'm boning up on tkinter
>>> to try and help out in the future... maybe in time to help out with
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Did you guys catch this article? I think so cause there are a lot of
>>> comments. Anyhow, I dig a lot of the suggestions.
>>>
>>> http://inventwithpython.com/blog/2011/11/29/the-things-i-hate-about-idle-that-i-wish-someone-would-fix/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Roger Serwy<roger.serwy at gmail.com>
>>>   wrote:
>>>> IDLE Developers,
>>>>
>>>> By my count there are over 110 valid open issues against IDLE, some minor
>>>> and others major. Let's try to make that number smaller.
>>>>
>>>> Here is a partial list of issues that have working patches:
>>>>
>>>> 3573    IDLE hangs when passing invalid command line args (directory(ies)
>>>> instead of file(s))
>>>> 5219    IDLE/Tkinter: edit win stops updating when tooltip is active
>>>> 6698    IDLE no longer opens only an edit window when configured to do so
>>>> 6699    IDLE: Warn user about overwriting a file that has a newer version
>>>> on
>>>> filesystem
>>>> 7136    Idle File Menu Option Improvement
>>>> 7676    IDLE shell shouldn't use TABs
>>>> 8515    idle "Run Module" (F5) does not set __file__ variable
>>>> 8900    IDLE crashes if Preference set to At Startup ->    Open Edit Window
>>>> 13039   IDLE editor: shell-like behaviour on line starting with ">>>"
>>>> 13179   IDLE uses common tkinter variables across all editor windows
>>>> 13495   IDLE: Regression - Two ColorDelegator instances loaded
>>>> 13506   IDLE sys.path does not contain Current Working Directory
>>>>
>>>> Can these patches be applied? I understand that there will be need for
>>>> some
>>>> discussion, but we should try to avoid the bike shed problem.
>>>>
>>>> Not surprisingly, there are a lot of "duplicate" bug reports. Some issues
>>>> deal with invalid key bindings and should have a common solution: 4765,
>>>> 5707, 6739, 11437, 12387, 13071. (IdleX already has a work-around for
>>>> these
>>>> issues.) Other issues deal with permission error handling of
>>>> configHandler.py: 4625, 8231, 9404, 9925.
>>>>
>>>> One major patch which requires some updating and much consideration is:
>>>> 10079   idlelib for Python 3 with Guilherme Polo GSoC enhancements
>>>> There are a lot of good improvements in there.
>>>>
>>>> I am willing to help with fixing the remaining bugs if the IDLE
>>>> developers
>>>> are willing to help as well.
>>>>
>>>> - Roger
>>>>
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