[Idle-dev] KeyConfig, KeyBinding and other related issues.

Saimadhav Heblikar saimadhavheblikar at gmail.com
Fri Jun 13 13:22:54 CEST 2014

Just a heads up to both: I am writing a keyseq validator method.
It currently works for over 800 permutations of ['Shift', 'Control',
'Alt', 'Meta', 'Key-a', 'Key-A', 'Up', 'Key-Up', 'a', 'A']. It works
for permutations of length 2 and 3. Beyond that its not worth it IMO.
I am currently trying to integrate it with test_configuration.py and
catching permutations i missed out.

I post this, so that we dont duplicate work. I hope it to be ready by
the end of the day.(UTC +5.5)

On 13 June 2014 16:34, Tal Einat <taleinat at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 3:55 AM, Terry Reedy <tjreedy at udel.edu> wrote:
>> On 6/12/2014 6:20 PM, Tal Einat wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Terry Reedy <tjreedy at udel.edu> wrote:
>>>> 2. Runtime: I would be inclined to accept without comment (message box).
>>>> However, I do not know how 3rd party extensions get 'installed'.
>>> What do you mean "installed"? I know a lot about the extension
>>> mechanism and will happily help here.
>> I think I found much of the current answer in the config-extensions.def
>> comments. Someone puts an extension file in idlelib and, adds *by hand*, a
>> corresponding entry to idlelib/config-extensions.def. This entry defines the
>> system defaults for the extension and constitutes 'installation' as I meant
>> it. A user on the system customizes added extensions just like built-in
>> extensions: hand-edit .idlerc/config-extensions.cfg to add a custom entry.
> Precisely.
>> As I understand it, your extensions dialog will take care of the second
>> part, editing the user file, but depends on entries already being in the
>> default file.
> Yes. Still, considering the large number of extensions bundled with
> IDLE and how major the features supplied by some of them are, IMO an
> extension config dialog would be immensely useful even as things are.
>> Idle does not seem to have anticipated an ecosystem of 3rd-party extensions,
>> and the waste of 1000s of people hand-editing config-extensions.def. A
>> feature complementary to editing existing entries would be automatic
>> recognition of new extensions and copying of an config entry from extension
>> file to the .def file.  Are there any some extensions that come with a
>> script to do this?
> Not that I am aware of.
> I'm also not aware of 1000's of people actually installing IDLE
> extensions. The few extensions to be found on PyPI (some of which I
> made) are hardly ever downloaded.
>> Proposal: define a format for config entries in .py files, perhaps copying
>> one already in use if there are any. Add a directory, such as /extensions to
>> contain files that have such entries. The rest should be easy enough to work
>> out.
> Better installation of IDLE extensions has come up before. But that's
> an entirely different matter, and much lower priority IMO. Relevant:
> Roger Serwy's IdleX [1] has an extension manager.
> .. [1]: http://idlex.sourceforge.net/
> - Tal

Saimadhav Heblikar

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