From info@pythonware.com  Wed Jun  7 15:07:45 2000
From: info@pythonware.com (PythonWare)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 16:07:45 +0200
Subject: [Image-SIG] ANNOUNCEMENT: The Python Imaging Library, version 1.1 (june 7, 2000)
Message-ID: <014a01bfd089$d32b4af0$0500a8c0@secret.pythonware.com>

yet another release from the labs:

    The Python Imaging Library (PIL) adds image processing capabilities
    to your Python interpreter. This library supports many file formats,
    and provides powerful image processing and graphics capabilities.

    Version 1.1 moves the Tkinter support to a separate binary module,
    and fixes a couple of problems caused by incompatible changes in
    Python 1.6.

    Get your copy of the source kit here:

        http://www.pythonware.com/downloads.htm#pil11

    For more information, including support options, see the product
    site:

        http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/

enjoy,
the pil team

    "Secret Labs -- makers of fine pythonware since 1997."



From fredrik@pythonware.com  Wed Jun  7 15:11:45 2000
From: fredrik@pythonware.com (Fredrik Lundh)
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2000 16:11:45 +0200
Subject: [Image-SIG] Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: The Python Imaging Library, version 1.1 (june 7, 2000)
Message-ID: <000b01bfd08a$50c51220$0500a8c0@secret.pythonware.com>

> Version 1.1 moves the Tkinter support to a separate binary module,
> and fixes a couple of problems caused by incompatible changes in
> Python 1.6.

footnote: this is a maintenance release.  I have a bunch of really cool
contributions sitting in my inbox, and I hope to get around to integrate
some of them really soon now...

</F>



From robert.klimek@grc.nasa.gov  Wed Jun  7 19:00:27 2000
From: robert.klimek@grc.nasa.gov (Bob Klimek)
Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:00:27 -0400
Subject: [Image-SIG] ANNOUNCEMENT: The Python Imaging Library, version 1.1
 (june 7, 2000)
References: <014a01bfd089$d32b4af0$0500a8c0@secret.pythonware.com>
Message-ID: <393E8DBB.B219F391@grc.nasa.gov>

Great!  Looking forward to checking it out.
Thanks for all your contributions.
Bob


PythonWare wrote:
> 
> yet another release from the labs:
> 
>     The Python Imaging Library (PIL) adds image processing capabilities
>     to your Python interpreter. This library supports many file formats,
>     and provides powerful image processing and graphics capabilities.
> 
>     Version 1.1 moves the Tkinter support to a separate binary module,
>     and fixes a couple of problems caused by incompatible changes in
>     Python 1.6.
> 
>     Get your copy of the source kit here:
> 
>         http://www.pythonware.com/downloads.htm#pil11
> 
>     For more information, including support options, see the product
>     site:
> 
>         http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/
> 
> enjoy,
> the pil team
> 
>     "Secret Labs -- makers of fine pythonware since 1997."
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Image-SIG maillist  -  Image-SIG@python.org
> http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/image-sig

-- 
---------------------
Robert B. Klimek
NASA Glenn Research Center
robert.klimek@grc.nasa.gov
---------------------


From h.ragger@aon.at  Fri Jun  9 00:13:21 2000
From: h.ragger@aon.at (Harald Ragger)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 01:13:21 +0200
Subject: [Image-SIG] can't draw a simple point or line! help please
Message-ID: <001401bfd19f$23ad52f0$8c000a0a@mercurius>

When drawing a rectangle theres no problem. but when i try to draw a point
or a simple line, I always get errors.
Help please!!!
thx in advance

Harald

****************the code:*******************

import Image, ImageDraw

size=100
im = Image.new('RGB', (size, size))
draw = ImageDraw.ImageDraw(im)
bgcolor = (255, 255, 255)
color = (0,0,0)
draw.rectangle([0, 0, size, size], fill=bgcolor, outline=color)
draw.point(20, 20, fill=bgcolor)
del draw
# write to disk
im.save("d://test2.gif")


>>> Traceback (innermost last):
  File "d:\Programme\Python\Pythonwin\pywin\framework\scriptutils.py", line
310, in RunScript
    exec codeObject in __main__.__dict__
  File "D:\Programme\Python\Scripts\test1.py", line 9, in ?
    draw.point(20, 20, fill=bgcolor)
TypeError: keyword parameter redefined




From jwt-python@dskk.co.jp  Fri Jun  9 00:33:19 2000
From: jwt-python@dskk.co.jp (Jim Tittsler)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 08:33:19 +0900
Subject: [Image-SIG] can't draw a simple point or line! help please
In-Reply-To: <001401bfd19f$23ad52f0$8c000a0a@mercurius>; from h.ragger@aon.at on Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 01:13:21AM +0200
References: <001401bfd19f$23ad52f0$8c000a0a@mercurius>
Message-ID: <20000609083319.A26055@mail.dskk.co.jp>

On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 01:13:21AM +0200, Harald Ragger wrote:
> When drawing a rectangle theres no problem. but when i try to draw a point
> or a simple line, I always get errors.
[...]
> draw.rectangle([0, 0, size, size], fill=bgcolor, outline=color)
> draw.point(20, 20, fill=bgcolor)

The first argument to point should be a list of tuples or numeric values
(just as you used a sequence of numeric values for rectangle).  Try:
draw.point([20,20], fill=bgcolor)
It makes it easy to draw many points at once.


-- 
Jim Tittsler, Tokyo
Python Starship     http://starship.python.net/crew/jwt/



From jack@oratrix.nl  Fri Jun  9 22:57:14 2000
From: jack@oratrix.nl (Jack Jansen)
Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 23:57:14 +0200
Subject: [Image-SIG] PIL test suite
Message-ID: <20000609215719.47624E2673@oratrix.oratrix.nl>

If someone feels the urge: I wouldn't mind a testset for PIL. Even
something absolutely basic, that just tests that the various methods
and such are available would be helpful already.

I include PIL in the standard MacPython and Mac users are apparently
very happy with that, bt as I don't use PIL myself each new release
means that I just add the new files to the projects, compile it and
pray the resulting shared module also works once it compiles without
errors. 
--
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Jack.Jansen@oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
www.oratrix.nl/~jack    | ++++ see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/ ++++


From esr@thyrsus.com  Fri Jun  9 23:19:24 2000
From: esr@thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 18:19:24 -0400
Subject: [Image-SIG] RFC: Including PIL in 1.6
In-Reply-To: <20000609215719.47624E2673@oratrix.oratrix.nl>; from jack@oratrix.nl on Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 11:57:14PM +0200
References: <20000609215719.47624E2673@oratrix.oratrix.nl>
Message-ID: <20000609181924.A15728@thyrsus.com>

Jack Jansen <jack@oratrix.nl>:
> I include PIL in the standard MacPython and Mac users are apparently
> very happy with that [...]

I think it's time to consider including PIL in the core Python 1.6 release.
I've been following the work being done over there, and I believe the 
code has reached a sufficient level of maturity to justify this.

The "Batteries are included" philosophy seems to me to imply that we
ought to be looking for application libraries to promote into the core
once we're satisfied that they meet core-Pythonic standards of good
API design, stability, general usefulness, and documentation quality.
PIL seems to me like a good candidate on all counts.

Guido has to make the final call, of course.  But let's have the discussion
now so we can develop a yea or nay consensus on ther list.
-- 
		<a href="http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr">Eric S. Raymond</a>

Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best
state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one;
for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries *by a
government*, which we might expect in a country *without government*,
our calamities is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means
by which we suffer."
	-- Thomas Paine


From pingster@ilm.com  Fri Jun  9 23:28:27 2000
From: pingster@ilm.com (Ka-Ping Yee)
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2000 15:28:27 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Image-SIG] Re: [Python-Dev] RFC: Including PIL in 1.6
In-Reply-To: <20000609181924.A15728@thyrsus.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.96.1000609151846.621134V-100000@happy>

On Fri, 9 Jun 2000, Eric S. Raymond wrote:
> Jack Jansen <jack@oratrix.nl>:
> > I include PIL in the standard MacPython and Mac users are apparently
> > very happy with that [...]
> 
> I think it's time to consider including PIL in the core Python 1.6 release.
> I've been following the work being done over there, and I believe the 
> code has reached a sufficient level of maturity to justify this.

I'm +0.  Well, perhaps +0.1.

I guess what i would really be "+" about is something to the effect
of "a popular Linux distribution decides to throw in the .so for PIL".
Then it wouldn't really matter to me whether it was in the "real"
standard distribution.


-- ?!ng

"The police are not here to create disorder. They're here to preserve
disorder."
    -- Former Chicago mayor Daley



From robert.klimek@grc.nasa.gov  Mon Jun 12 16:24:51 2000
From: robert.klimek@grc.nasa.gov (Bob Klimek)
Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:24:51 -0400
Subject: [Image-SIG] RFC: Including PIL in 1.6
References: <20000609215719.47624E2673@oratrix.oratrix.nl> <20000609181924.A15728@thyrsus.com>
Message-ID: <394500C3.865290C8@grc.nasa.gov>

In general I like the idea. Wouldn't have to install a separate package.
But what about contributions and improvements? How would they get into
the system?

You'd need to also provide a good canvas to display the images on.
Piddle has a good one I hear.


"Eric S. Raymond" wrote:
> 
> 
> I think it's time to consider including PIL in the core Python 1.6 release.
> I've been following the work being done over there, and I believe the
> code has reached a sufficient level of maturity to justify this.
> 
> The "Batteries are included" philosophy seems to me to imply that we
> ought to be looking for application libraries to promote into the core
> once we're satisfied that they meet core-Pythonic standards of good
> API design, stability, general usefulness, and documentation quality.
> PIL seems to me like a good candidate on all counts.
> 
> Guido has to make the final call, of course.  But let's have the discussion
> now so we can develop a yea or nay consensus on ther list.
>
-- 
---------------------
Robert B. Klimek
NASA Glenn Research Center
robert.klimek@grc.nasa.gov
---------------------


From jack@oratrix.nl  Tue Jun 13 09:54:53 2000
From: jack@oratrix.nl (Jack Jansen)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:54:53 +0200
Subject: [Image-SIG] RFC: Including PIL in 1.6
In-Reply-To: Message by Bob Klimek <robert.klimek@grc.nasa.gov> ,
 Mon, 12 Jun 2000 11:24:51 -0400 , <394500C3.865290C8@grc.nasa.gov>
Message-ID: <20000613085453.E1001370CF2@snelboot.oratrix.nl>

I've been including the PIL, img and Numeric packages with the standard 
MacPython distributions for a couple of years now, and the only one that gets 
some discussion on the mailing list is Numeric. This may mean that PIL and img 
are virtually unused, or it may mean that they're so polished that there's no 
reason to discuss them, I'm not sure.

I think that we should get some feeling for the percentage of the Python 
community that wants PIL before we should start bugging Guido to include it. 
And even if there is a sizeable community we should probably also watch how 
the distutils people are getting along. Easily obtaining extension packages is 
on their charter, if they manage to pull the trick off in a way that also 
works for Mac and Windows (and also for Mac and Windows systsmes without a 
compiler!) then there isn't all that much reason to bundle anymore.
--
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Jack.Jansen@oratrix.com | ++++ if you agree copy these lines to your sig ++++
www.oratrix.nl/~jack    | see http://www.xs4all.nl/~tank/spg-l/sigaction.htm 




From peter@schneider-kamp.de  Tue Jun 13 10:09:18 2000
From: peter@schneider-kamp.de (Peter Schneider-Kamp)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:09:18 +0200
Subject: [Image-SIG] crash: Image.open("lena.ppm").show()
Message-ID: <3945FA3E.5619F69D@stud.ntnu.no>

I am using PIL 1.1 with the current CVS version under GNU/Linux.

>>> Image.open("lena.ppm").show()
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
  File "/usr/local/lib/python1.6/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 818,
in show
    _showxv(self, title, command)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python1.6/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 1151,
in _showxv
    file = self._dump(format=format)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python1.6/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line 355,
in _dump
    file = file + "." + format
TypeError: illegal argument type for built-in operation

The reason seems to be that format == None (passed somehow
from _showxv. Note that the line numbers given vary from the
original version because I used pindent to change the indentation.

I fixed it for me by replacing the line with:
file = file + "." + self.format

Why does _showxv always pass format=None for non "nt" OSes?

Peter
--
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Herman Krags veg 51-11        mailto:peter@schneider-kamp.de
N-7050 Trondheim              http://schneider-kamp.de


From fredrik@pythonware.com  Tue Jun 13 12:22:08 2000
From: fredrik@pythonware.com (Fredrik Lundh)
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:22:08 +0200
Subject: [Image-SIG] crash: Image.open("lena.ppm").show()
References: <3945FA3E.5619F69D@stud.ntnu.no>
Message-ID: <007b01bfd52a$137969d0$0500a8c0@secret.pythonware.com>

Peter Schneider-Kamp wrote:
> I am using PIL 1.1 with the current CVS version under GNU/Linux.
>=20
> >>> Image.open("lena.ppm").show()
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
>   File "/usr/local/lib/python1.6/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line =
818,
> in show
>     _showxv(self, title, command)
>   File "/usr/local/lib/python1.6/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line =
1151,
> in _showxv
>     file =3D self._dump(format=3Dformat)
>   File "/usr/local/lib/python1.6/site-packages/PIL/Image.py", line =
355,
> in _dump
>     file =3D file + "." + format
> TypeError: illegal argument type for built-in operation
>=20
> The reason seems to be that format =3D=3D None (passed somehow
> from _showxv. Note that the line numbers given vary from the
> original version because I used pindent to change the indentation.
>=20
> I fixed it for me by replacing the line with:
> file =3D file + "." + self.format
>=20
> Why does _showxv always pass format=3DNone for non "nt" OSes?

it's a known bug, and for some reason, the fix didn't make it
into the 1.1 release :-(

iirc, the "correct" way to fix this is to change:

    format =3D None

to

    format =3D "PPM"

in the _showxv function.

</F>



From herzog@online.de  Tue Jun 13 23:34:27 2000
From: herzog@online.de (Bernhard Herzog)
Date: 14 Jun 2000 00:34:27 +0200
Subject: [Image-SIG] Another bug not yet fixed in 1.1 (PIL as a package)
Message-ID: <m3vgzd43d8.fsf@greebo.nodomain.de>

Digging deeply into my Image-SIG archives to September 1999....

"Fredrik Lundh" <fredrik@pythonware.com> writes:

> > I read somewhere that the current PIL release should work
> > equally well as plain modules (with PIL.pth) or as a package.
> > I may have misunderstood this, but the only problem I found
> > should be fairly easy to fix. The preinit() and init() methods
> > search for the plug-ins on sys.path. This fails if PIL is
> > installed as a package (I was fooled myself first, because I
> > still had a non-package installation around on my system...).
> 
> Anthony Baxter pointed this out a while ago, and
> Fred Drake came up with the following solution:
> 
>     import sys
>     try:
>         path = __path__
>     except NameError:
>         path = sys.path
> 
> which will be in the forthcoming maintenance
> release (PIL 1.0.1).

This isn't even fixed in 1.1!


-- 
Bernhard Herzog   | Sketch, a drawing program for Unix
herzog@online.de  | http://sketch.sourceforge.net/


From bryan@dunsinane.net  Wed Jun 14 09:48:50 2000
From: bryan@dunsinane.net (Bryan Willett)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:48:50 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Image-SIG] PNG and compression
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0006140240300.30283-100000@dunsinane.net>

I'm using PIL to create maps for my game:

merchempires.sourceforge.net

I don't know anything about the technicals of image file formats. I
want my maps to have the smallest image file size as possible. The
pngs that PIL creates are not as small as the pngs that I can
create with the GIMP.  I can open a png created with PIL in the
GIMP and save it out using the gimps 9 compression setting for a
png and I get a smaller file.  The gimp has a "indexed" setting for
png file.  I don't know what that is compared to RGB but all PIL
pngs open up in the gimp as RGB, not indexed.

My question is how do I create these smaller sized files with PIL.
There is supposed to be a optimization option for saving pngs
but I can't get it to work.  What is the complete synxtax for
saving an image with optimization?  Anyone have advice on
producing more compressed pngs with PIL?

Thanks

please reply to bryan@dunsinane.net




From peter@schneider-kamp.de  Wed Jun 14 12:21:00 2000
From: peter@schneider-kamp.de (Peter Schneider-Kamp)
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:21:00 +0200
Subject: [Image-SIG] Python and Video for Windows?
Message-ID: <39476A9C.DFE84D0@stud.ntnu.no>

I am currently working on a robot control project and I have
to use a Video for Windows compatible video camera.

Is there any possibility to get this working with Python?
Or is there some C/C++/Java based solution which I could
easily write an extension for?

All I need is really the raw image data. No fancy control
stuff or gamma correction.

don't-wanna-do-it-in-C++---please-save-me-ly y'rs
Peter
--
Peter Schneider-Kamp          ++47-7388-7331
Herman Krags veg 51-11        mailto:peter@schneider-kamp.de
N-7050 Trondheim              http://schneider-kamp.de


From mmiller3@iupui.edu  Wed Jun 14 14:59:59 2000
From: mmiller3@iupui.edu (Michael A. Miller)
Date: 14 Jun 2000 08:59:59 -0500
Subject: [Image-SIG] RFC: Including PIL in 1.6
In-Reply-To: Jack Jansen's message of "Tue, 13 Jun 2000 10:54:53 +0200"
References: <20000613085453.E1001370CF2@snelboot.oratrix.nl>
Message-ID: <87vgzcicrk.fsf@lumen.med.iupui.edu>

>>>>> "Jack" == Jack Jansen <jack@oratrix.nl> writes:

    > I've been including the PIL, img and Numeric packages with
    > the standard MacPython distributions for a couple of years
    > now, [...]

They are also included in the standard Debian distribution.

-- 
Michael A. Miller                      mmiller@debian.org


From mvmendes@mailcity.com  Fri Jun 16 12:55:27 2000
From: mvmendes@mailcity.com (Marcus Mendes)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 04:55:27 -0700
Subject: [Image-SIG] Generating and puting images over images
Message-ID: <GJPLDLDNKCGKAAAA@mailcity.com>

Hello,

I have a map with various positions defined, ie, my map is divided in many small parts with its numbers (I think that seems as an array of small images). My mission is put another image over each these small images, leaving them as background images. 

I asked : Should I use an array of these images? And how can I to do it?

Someone can help me?

Thanks in advance.

Marcus


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From kcaza@cymbolic.com  Fri Jun 16 17:08:47 2000
From: kcaza@cymbolic.com (kcaza@cymbolic.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:08:47 -0700
Subject: [Image-SIG] Generating and puting images over images
Message-ID: <88256900.0058B21A.00@mail.cymbolic.com>


The Image.paste command should work fine, but you may want to look into using an
image mask to do it.  Using a mask, you can paste odd-shaped regions of an
image, or paste an image semi-transparently over another.

All you need is a grayscale image file the same size as both images, where you
paint the mask in black/white/gray.  When you paste the two real images
together, specify the mask as well.

ImA = Image.open ("background.tif")
ImB = Image.open ("foreground.tif")
ImC = Image.open ("grayscale_mask.tif")

ImD = ImA.paste(ImB, (0,0), ImC)

ImD.save("combined.tif")

Kevin Cazabon






"Marcus Mendes" <mvmendes@mailcity.com> on 06/16/2000 04:55:27 AM

Please respond to mvmendes@mailcity.com

To:   image-sig@python.org
cc:    (bcc: Kevin Cazabon/cymbolic/gig)

Subject:  [Image-SIG] Generating and puting images over images




Hello,

I have a map with various positions defined, ie, my map is divided in many small
parts with its numbers (I think that seems as an array of small images). My
mission is put another image over each these small images, leaving them as
background images.

I asked : Should I use an array of these images? And how can I to do it?

Someone can help me?

Thanks in advance.

Marcus


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From ghaley@venaca.com  Mon Jun 19 21:56:34 2000
From: ghaley@venaca.com (Gregory Haley)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:56:34 -0400
Subject: [Image-SIG] problems with simple task.
Message-ID: <394E8902.4AC1DB3C@venaca.com>

hi folks,

i am having a problem running the simplest, and most
introductory script.  i am trying the generate a simple
rectange.  i've copied the scripts that have been posted to
this sig, and the one that is included in the PIL tutorial. 
it does not matter if i do this as a script or in the python
interpreter.  i was wondering if i am missing something
REALLY obvious, or if there is some sort of component to PIL
that i am missing:

a copy of the script:

import PIL
from PIL import _imaging, Image, ImageDraw
import re, os, string, sys
import cStringIO

size = 100
im = Image.new('RGB", (size, size))
draw = ImageDraw.ImageDraw(im)
bgcolor = (255, 0, 0)  #should be red background
fgcolor = (0, 0, 0)    #should be black border

im = draw.rectangle( [0,0, size, size], fill=bgcolor,
outline=fgcolor )

del draw

outFile = cStringIO.StringIO()
im.save(outFile, 'GIF')

the error i get is:

Traceback (innermost last):
  File './image1.py", line 25, in ? 
     im.save(outFile, 'GIF')
AttributeError: 'None' object has no attribute 'save'

i've tried to rewrite this using a file handle to open the
outfile, but the error is basically the same, which has to
do with the im.save call.  

any advice will be deeply appreciated.

ciao!
greg.

Gregory Haley
Venaca.com


From sabren@manifestation.com  Mon Jun 19 22:26:33 2000
From: sabren@manifestation.com (Michal Wallace)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:26:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Image-SIG] help compiling PIL
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10006191724400.1465-100000@chi.pair.com>

Hey all,

I'm having a real hard time getting PIL 1.1 to compile on my machine.
It seems to compile correctly, but when I try to actually use it, I 
get:


>>> import _imaging
Traceback (innermost last):
  File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
ImportError: Undefined symbol "_ImagingSavePPM" in python:./_imaging.so


Can someone help me out here?

Thanks,

- Michal
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From jwt-python@dskk.co.jp  Tue Jun 20 02:11:00 2000
From: jwt-python@dskk.co.jp (Jim Tittsler)
Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:11:00 +0900
Subject: [Image-SIG] problems with simple task.
In-Reply-To: <394E8902.4AC1DB3C@venaca.com>; from ghaley@venaca.com on Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 04:56:34PM -0400
References: <394E8902.4AC1DB3C@venaca.com>
Message-ID: <20000620101100.B27731@mail.dskk.co.jp>

On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 04:56:34PM -0400, Gregory Haley wrote:
> im = Image.new('RGB", (size, size))
> draw = ImageDraw.ImageDraw(im)
> bgcolor = (255, 0, 0)  #should be red background
> fgcolor = (0, 0, 0)    #should be black border
> 
> im = draw.rectangle( [0,0, size, size], fill=bgcolor,
>                     outline=fgcolor )
Try making this line simply:
  draw.rectangle( [0,0, size, size], fill=bgcolor, outline=fgcolor )

(You don't want to assign the result of the rectangle method to your 'im'
image object.)

http://www.pythonware.com/library/pil/handbook/imagedraw.htm

-- 
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From sabren@manifestation.com  Tue Jun 20 04:57:26 2000
From: sabren@manifestation.com (Michal Wallace)
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:57:26 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Image-SIG] help compiling PIL
In-Reply-To: <14670.39218.852003.578491@gargle.gargle.HOWL>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10006192351040.19295-100000@chi.pair.com>

On Mon, 19 Jun 2000, Les Schaffer wrote:

> what are you using for compile tools? i just built the library and it
> runs fine ... but my linker gives this:
> 
> (gustav)~/system/Imaging-1.1/libImaging/: nm libImaging.a | grep ImagingSavePPM
> 00000324 T ImagingSavePPM
> 
> no underscore.. where does your underscore come from?????

I use just plain old "make" ... gcc 2.7.2.1... I typed the same
command and I get:

[~/src/Imaging-1.1/libImaging]: nm libImaging.a | grep ImagingSavePPM
0000031c T _ImagingSavePPM

[~/src/Imaging-1.1/libImaging]: grep ImagingSavePPM *.h *.c
Imaging.h:extern int ImagingSavePPM(Imaging im, const char* filename);
File.c:ImagingSavePPM(Imaging im, const char* outfile)
coretest.c:    ImagingSavePPM(im3, "wedge.ppm");
coretest.c:     ImagingSavePPM(im, "test.ppm");


Any idea what might be happening?

Cheers,

- Michal
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From loris@caren.demon.co.uk  Wed Jun 21 12:20:39 2000
From: loris@caren.demon.co.uk (Loris Caren)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:20:39 +0100
Subject: [Image-SIG] Font Support in PIL
Message-ID: <00062112283606.00981@caren.cec>

Hello,
I'm try to create some fonts that can be read by the ImageFont library using
bdf2pil.  However it dies in font2image saying that Image.core.hex_decoder
should have two args rather than the one provided.
I've tried greping for hex_decoder in the library but dont get any hits. Can
anybody else get this to work?  Without it I can't see how that I can write
text using the ImageDraw library.


From ghaley@venaca.com  Wed Jun 21 21:42:46 2000
From: ghaley@venaca.com (Gregory Haley)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:42:46 -0400
Subject: [Image-SIG] looking for PythonMagick
Message-ID: <395128C6.1DAF788B@venaca.com>

Hi,

I tried to fetch the PythonMagick interface to ImageMagick,
but it appears that the person who had the directory is no
longer at Brown -- an email to the maintainer (obtained via
spaceship) bounced.  Can anyone direct me to a current
version of this module, please?

Many thanks.

ciao!
greg.

Gregory Haley
venaca.com


From ghaley@venaca.com  Wed Jun 21 21:42:46 2000
From: ghaley@venaca.com (Gregory Haley)
Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:42:46 -0400
Subject: [Image-SIG] looking for PythonMagick
Message-ID: <395128C6.1DAF788B@venaca.com>

Hi,

I tried to fetch the PythonMagick interface to ImageMagick,
but it appears that the person who had the directory is no
longer at Brown -- an email to the maintainer (obtained via
spaceship) bounced.  Can anyone direct me to a current
version of this module, please?

Many thanks.

ciao!
greg.

Gregory Haley
venaca.com


From kcazabon" <kcazabon@home.com  Thu Jun 22 16:01:16 2000
From: kcazabon" <kcazabon@home.com (kcazabon)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 08:01:16 -0700
Subject: [Image-SIG] Font Support in PIL
References: <00062112283606.00981@caren.cec>
Message-ID: <001b01bfdc5a$b74e69c0$16107118@rct1.bc.wave.home.com>

Hi Loris;

I while back I created a whole bunch of font sets for PIL because I was
having the same problems.  One of the other users (Piers Lauder) kindly
provided FTP space for them, as they're quite large (even when zipped).

They're available at the following address if you'd like to download
"pre-PIL-ified" fonts.

http://www.cs.usyd.edu.au/~piers/python/pilfonts.html

Kevin Cazabon


----- Original Message -----
From: "Loris Caren" <loris@caren.demon.co.uk>
To: <image-sig@python.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 4:20 AM
Subject: [Image-SIG] Font Support in PIL


> Hello,
> I'm try to create some fonts that can be read by the ImageFont library
using
> bdf2pil.  However it dies in font2image saying that Image.core.hex_decoder
> should have two args rather than the one provided.
> I've tried greping for hex_decoder in the library but dont get any hits.
Can
> anybody else get this to work?  Without it I can't see how that I can
write
> text using the ImageDraw library.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Image-SIG maillist  -  Image-SIG@python.org
> http://www.python.org/mailman/listinfo/image-sig



From fredrik@pythonware.com  Thu Jun 22 16:44:08 2000
From: fredrik@pythonware.com (Fredrik Lundh)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:44:08 +0200
Subject: [Image-SIG] help compiling PIL
References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10006191724400.1465-100000@chi.pair.com>
Message-ID: <007b01bfdc60$b675ae40$0900a8c0@SPIFF>

Michal Wallace wrote:
> I'm having a real hard time getting PIL 1.1 to compile on my machine.
> It seems to compile correctly, but when I try to actually use it, I 
> get:
> 
> >>> import _imaging
> Traceback (innermost last):
>   File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
> ImportError: Undefined symbol "_ImagingSavePPM" in python:./_imaging.so
> 
> Can someone help me out here?

I have no idea...  the only difference I see is that I'm using a newer
compiler (we just upgraded our servers), but I'm sure I've compiled
earlier versions of PIL with 2.7.2 without problems.

You could try #undef'ing the WITH_DEBUG flag in _imaging.so.

Or update your compiler...

cheers /F



From sabren@manifestation.com  Thu Jun 22 19:10:05 2000
From: sabren@manifestation.com (Michal Wallace)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:10:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Image-SIG] looking for PythonMagick
In-Reply-To: <395128C6.1DAF788B@venaca.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10006221409330.7960-100000@chi.pair.com>

On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Gregory Haley wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I tried to fetch the PythonMagick interface to ImageMagick,
> but it appears that the person who had the directory is no
> longer at Brown -- an email to the maintainer (obtained via
> spaceship) bounced.  Can anyone direct me to a current
> version of this module, please?
> 


http://starship.python.net/~zack/

Cheers,

- Michal
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From ghaley@venaca.com  Thu Jun 22 20:04:35 2000
From: ghaley@venaca.com (Gregory Haley)
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:04:35 -0400
Subject: [Image-SIG] looking for PythonMagick
References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10006221409330.7960-100000@chi.pair.com>
Message-ID: <39526343.6DB56F16@venaca.com>


> http://starship.python.net/~zack/

hi michael,

actually, that link leads to an ftp site at: 
ftp.lems.brown.edu/pub/turtles/magick/

i was able to ftp into the turtles level, but the magick
directory is gone, and the email adddress that was linked
from the starship web page bounced.  i did quite a bit of
searching yesterday for an alternative location, but i think
all of them led back to the brown site.

darn.

ciao!
greg.

Gregory Haley
venaca.com


From ghaley@venaca.com  Fri Jun 23 19:43:11 2000
From: ghaley@venaca.com (Gregory Haley)
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:43:11 -0400
Subject: [Image-SIG] help with paste
Message-ID: <3953AFBF.D129FBF8@venaca.com>

hi folks,

i am trying to get some images to paste into a larger
image.  from the docmentation, it appears that i need to use
paste, but i keep getting an error when i try to do the
paste that the images don't match.

i suspect i a missing something fairly obvious were i better
at reading the method prototype.  attached is the pertinent
snippet of code.

*-*-* snip *-*-*

im1 = Image.new('RGB', (size0, size0))
draw = ImageDraw.ImageDraw(im1)
ink = (0,0,0)
fill = (255,0,255)
draw.rectangle( [0, 0, size0, size0], fill=fill,
outline=ink)

size1 = 300
im2 = Image.new('RGB', (size1, size1))
draw = ImageDraw.ImageDraw(im2)
ink = (0,0,0)
fill = (255,255,0)
draw.rectangle( [0, 0, size0, size0], fill=fill,
outline=ink)

im3 = Image.new('RGB', (size0, size0))
draw = ImageDraw.ImageDraw(im3)
im = im1.paste(im2, (500, 500), im3)

*-*-* snip *-*-*

what i want to create is something along the following:

the *** will be rectangles, the lengths based on data passed
in, and the colors changing to differentiate categories. 
the widths of each rectangle will be 10, the distance
between each rectangle will be 5px.  the heighth of the box
will be a function of the number of rectangles needed, and
the width of the box will be a function of the length of the
longest rectangle plus +/- 10px.  the final image will be
passed via zope into a dtml method and will not be a real
file.  there is a zope Poll product that uses the pie slice
funtion in PIL to do this.  it seems like it would be
possible to do this.

	+----------------------------+
	|                            |
	| *****                      |
	|                            |
	| ************               |
	|                            |
	| *********                  |
	|                            |
	| **********************     |
	|                            |
	+----------------------------+

i have gotten it to where i can generate all of the part as
gif files, but doing this dynamically continues to ellude
me.  any insights will be most appreciated.

any help will be greatly appreciated.

thanks.

ciao!
greg.

Gregory Haley
venaca.com


From jwt-python@dskk.co.jp  Sat Jun 24 06:15:24 2000
From: jwt-python@dskk.co.jp (Jim Tittsler)
Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:15:24 +0900
Subject: [Image-SIG] help with paste
In-Reply-To: <3953AFBF.D129FBF8@venaca.com>; from ghaley@venaca.com on Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 02:43:11PM -0400
References: <3953AFBF.D129FBF8@venaca.com>
Message-ID: <20000624141524.A13536@mail.dskk.co.jp>

On Fri, Jun 23, 2000 at 02:43:11PM -0400, Gregory Haley wrote:
> size1 = 300
> im2 = Image.new('RGB', (size1, size1))
[...]
> im3 = Image.new('RGB', (size0, size0))
> draw = ImageDraw.ImageDraw(im3)
> im = im1.paste(im2, (500, 500), im3)

It looks like you are trying to paste im2 into im1, using im3 as a mask.
Does size0==size1?  I believe the mask needs to be the same size as the
image it applies to, so in this case im2 and im3 need to be the same size.
(But your im3 would appear to make a pretty boring mask.  :-)

-- 
Jim Tittsler, Tokyo
Python Starship     http://starship.python.net/crew/jwt/



From sabren@manifestation.com  Fri Jun 30 15:04:15 2000
From: sabren@manifestation.com (Michal Wallace)
Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 10:04:15 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Image-SIG] help compiling PIL
In-Reply-To: <007b01bfdc60$b675ae40$0900a8c0@SPIFF>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10006300942250.13799-100000@chi.pair.com>

Hey Fredrik, everyone:

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Fredrik Lundh wrote:

> Michal Wallace wrote:
> > I'm having a real hard time getting PIL 1.1 to compile on my machine.
> > It seems to compile correctly, but when I try to actually use it, I 
> > get:
> > 
> > >>> import _imaging
> > Traceback (innermost last):
> >   File "<stdin>", line 1, in ?
> > ImportError: Undefined symbol "_ImagingSavePPM" in python:./_imaging.so
> > 
> > Can someone help me out here?
> 
> I have no idea...  the only difference I see is that I'm using a newer
> compiler (we just upgraded our servers), but I'm sure I've compiled
> earlier versions of PIL with 2.7.2 without problems.
 
> You could try #undef'ing the WITH_DEBUG flag in _imaging.so.

Didn't help. :/

> Or update your compiler...

Maybe, but I'm really trying to avoid that.

I think my problem is that I just don't know what I'm doing as far as
linking goes. :) I only know a little C, and I'm a total newbie when
it comes to compiling and linking multi-file programs. The File.o file
in the libImaging directory compile just fine, and seems to have the
symbols defined, but coretest.o doesn't:

[~/src/Imaging-1.1/libImaging]: nm -t *.o | grep _ImagingSavePPM
File.o|0000031c|T|_ImagingSavePPM
coretest.o||U|_ImagingSavePPM

.. Nor does _imaging.o

[~/src/Imaging-1.1/libImaging]: cd ..
[~/src/Imaging-1.1]: nm -t *.o | grep _ImagingSavePPM
_imaging.o||U|_ImagingSavePPM

(for some reason, the compiler puts an underscore in front of every
symbol, but it happens with everything, so that isn't the problem)

One thing: make really did not like the backslashes at the ends of the
lines in the Setup.in file, so I took them out. So the _imaging lines
for my Setup file look like this:

_imaging  _imaging.c decode.c encode.c map.c display.c outline.c path.c
        -IlibImaging -IlibImaging/libImaging.a
        -lImaging

------

Maybe a better question is: Has anyone on this list successfully
compiled PIL on a shell account at pair.com?

Cheers,

- Michal
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