[Image-SIG] Patch repository for PIL (was Re: [PATCH] Make Win32 ImageGrab work with multiple monitors)

Sebastian Haase haase at msg.ucsf.edu
Fri Jun 20 23:44:44 CEST 2008

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:24 AM, Stani <spe.stani.be at gmail.com> wrote:
> Op vrijdag 20-06-2008 om 03:09 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Sebastian
> Haase:
>> Hi Catalin,
>> don't put up your hopes ..... It seems there is a long list of
>> not-yet-included patches ....
> There are and they are not archived in a structured way. You have to
> Google or dig through the archives of this mailing list, which is
> inefficient at least.
>> I think the situation is getting out of hand ?
> Right now I solve it by shipping my own patched PIL with my
> applications, but this is not an ideal solution. New patches appear from
> time to time and it is hard to keep up.
>> Others ? Comments ?
>> Don't misunderstand me -- I'm very thankful for PIL ! I would be much
>> worse off without it !!
> Me too and I guess that is true for everyone on this list. PIL follows
> the successful model of open source (just like python, ubuntu, ...):
> having a benevolent dictator in charge. I'd like to thank Fredrik Lundh
> for the amazing work he is doing on PIL.
> However what is missing is a platform which enables collaborative input.
> Right now some patches get accepted, while others get ignored without
> any statement. This opaqueness is far from ideal, but I can live with
> it. (I would never want to claim what somebody has to do in his free
> time.) However I do feel the need to create for example a launchpad page
> where all patches can be submitted, tested & reviewed by other pil users
> and where you can see the popularity of a patch by the amount of people
> who subscribed to it. Even if this launchpad page is unofficial and
> maintained by the PIL users/community, I would think this would also
> save some work load for Fredrik Lundh as he can benefit from the tests
> and reviews by other people. In the case where patches are not accepted
> by him in a new release, the community could update the patch to the new
> version.
> This is just a humble proposal. Fredrik, in case you have a proposal
> which would suit you better just let us know. I will be happy to follow
> it.

This sounds good to me.
I think the current complication comes also from the fact that there
is a commercial PIL license
(http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/support.htm) that gives
preferred / exclusive SVN access if you pay $1950 / year --- so if
someone else provides a patch he cannot even get the pached version
back himself. Fredrik, I hope I did not misunderstand this, but if
you could give some extra comments, it might clarify the situation
better. When is the next (free) 1.1.7 version coming ... ?

In the meantime, Stani, could you say, where you keep your (patched)
version of PIL ? Is it downloadable as a separate package ? With
binaries ?

Sebastian Haase

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