From lawgon at au-kbc.org Tue Jun 1 12:16:44 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:46:44 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] bank account Message-ID: <201006011546.44530.lawgon@au-kbc.org> hi, finished the formalities today - now it is in the hands of the bank. They say a week to get the number as this has to come from the head office. -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From noufal at gmail.com Tue Jun 1 12:22:55 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 15:52:55 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] bank account In-Reply-To: <201006011546.44530.lawgon@au-kbc.org> References: <201006011546.44530.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > hi, > > finished the formalities today - now it is in the hands of the bank. They say a > week to get the number as this has to come from the head office. Okay. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From noufal at gmail.com Thu Jun 3 23:26:40 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 02:56:40 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Fwd: Sponsorships from IITB In-Reply-To: References: <201005271116.18387.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: [..] > Done. I'll keep the list posted on developments. I got an email from Prabhu saying that he's travelling and will reply in a few days. Just to keep you folks informed. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From noufal at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 14:16:08 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:46:08 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Venue booked! Message-ID: Gentlemen! I bring glad tidings. Sree and I spoke to the principal at MSRIT today and we've formally booked the venue. They're going to send us a formal letter in a day or two. So, we have a venue. Time to update the site.! -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From noufal at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 14:18:52 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:48:52 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs Message-ID: Hello everyone, Now that we have a venue, would it be wise to open up the CFPs? We need time and sufficient proposals if we're to improve the quality this time and so, the earlier the better. I feel that we should open up and publicise the CFP right away. Registration can come a little later (Say late July or so). What do you feel? Thanks. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 14:22:08 2010 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:52:08 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2010/6/4 Noufal Ibrahim : > Hello everyone, > ? Now that we have a venue, would it be wise to open up the CFPs? > > ? We need time and sufficient proposals if we're to improve the > quality this time and so, the earlier the better. > > ? I feel that we should open up and publicise the CFP right away. > > ? Registration can come a little later (Say late July or so). > > ? What do you feel? I think we should first form a team of reviewers. Anand From ardsrk at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 14:25:42 2010 From: ardsrk at gmail.com (Arvind Jamuna Dixit) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:55:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Venue booked! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is good news. A milestone achieved. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Gentlemen! I bring glad tidings. Sree and I spoke to the principal at > MSRIT today and we've formally booked the venue. They're going to send > us a formal letter in a day or two. So, we have a venue. Time to > update the site.! > > -- > ~noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Arvind -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 14:32:31 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:02:31 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: [..] > I think we should first form a team of reviewers. Agreed. The more the merrier. I had mailed a couple of the core devs about this and they can offer *some* time. We need a good team here as well. I can pitch in. The more people there are, the easier it will be for all of us. Who else is willing? -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 14:33:45 2010 From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:03:45 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Venue booked! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Awesome!! On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Arvind Jamuna Dixit wrote: > This is good news. A milestone achieved. > > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > >> Gentlemen! I bring glad tidings. Sree and I spoke to the principal at >> MSRIT today and we've formally booked the venue. They're going to send >> us a formal letter in a day or two. So, we have a venue. Time to >> update the site.! >> >> -- >> ~noufal >> http://nibrahim.net.in >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > > > > -- > Arvind > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abpillai at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 14:58:45 2010 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:28:45 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Venue booked! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> >>> Gentlemen! I bring glad tidings. Sree and I spoke to the principal at >>> MSRIT today and we've formally booked the venue. They're going to send >>> us a formal letter in a day or two. So, we have a venue. Time to >>> update the site.! >>> >> Great news to mark the end of the week. Sorry I was unable to join the meeting. > >>> -- >>> ~noufal >>> http://nibrahim.net.in >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Arvind >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 15:02:14 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:32:14 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Venue booked! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >>>> >>>> Gentlemen! I bring glad tidings. Sree and I spoke to the principal at >>>> MSRIT today and we've formally booked the venue. They're going to send >>>> us a formal letter in a day or two. So, we have a venue. Time to >>>> update the site.! > > ?Great news to mark the end of the week. Sorry I was unable to join > ?the meeting. No problem. It was mostly ceremonial. Handshakes and all that. A little bit of of trivia. The Principal of the college Dr. Rajanikanth is a Python fan himself. He says that he used it 7 or 8 years ago which makes him a veteran of sorts. His son's project was in Python as well. Nice place to be. :) -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From abpillai at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 15:03:21 2010 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:33:21 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:02 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: > [..] > > I think we should first form a team of reviewers. > > Agreed. The more the merrier. I had mailed a couple of the core devs > about this and they can offer *some* time. We need a good team here as > well. I can pitch in. The more people there are, the easier it will be > for all of us. > > Who else is willing? > +1. I had volunteered for this right from the start and this is something I am looking forward to. We need to draft a CFP document and publish it in the mailing list as well as email it out to a list of interested presenters. We could use the email addresses collected from last year for this. I will create a very basic CFP draft and send it to you the week-end. We can thrash it out in the mailing list and develop it over the next week. It would be useful to have an idea of the specific tracks (if any) so that the CFP is not very vague. > > > -- > ~noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 15:03:11 2010 From: anil.kumar.848 at gmail.com (anil kumar) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:33:11 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Venue booked! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Another week and my group and myself will be done with our exams. please do let us know of any host arrangements that need to be done. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:28 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpillai at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >>> On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >>> >>>> Gentlemen! I bring glad tidings. Sree and I spoke to the principal at >>>> MSRIT today and we've formally booked the venue. They're going to send >>>> us a formal letter in a day or two. So, we have a venue. Time to >>>> update the site.! >>>> >>> > Great news to mark the end of the week. 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Count on it. :) -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From noufal at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 15:17:42 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:47:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: [..] > +1. I had volunteered for this right from the start and this is something > I am looking forward to. Excellent. :) > We need to draft a CFP document and publish it in the mailing list as well > as email it out to a list of interested presenters. We could use the email > addresses collected from last year for this. Hmmm. I personally wouldn't mind receiving such an email but I'm sure there are lots of privacy nazis out there who'll get their knickers in a twist if they receive such an email. However, the general idea of publicising the CFP is a good one and it should be a post on the main PyCon website as well as the conferences at python.org mailing list. > I will create a very basic CFP draft and send it to you the week-end. > ?We can thrash it out in the mailing list and develop it over the next > week. It would be useful to have an idea of the specific tracks (if any) > so that the CFP is not very vague. Hmmm. * We should have a dedicated "beginners" track that the hardcore snakes can avoid. This is similar to the tutorial track we had last year although not a marathon thing. * If Prabhu and Asokan are okay with our proposal, we'll have an engineering/scientific track * Then the "actual" tracks where we're having the real meat of the conference. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From noufal at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 15:18:19 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:48:19 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: >> >> >> >> >> We need to draft a CFP document and publish it in the mailing list as well > > Correction: I meant publish it in the "website", not "mailing list"! You should go ahead and make an account on the site right away and use it while drafting your proposal. We'd have revision control and ability to edit directly then. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From lawgon at au-kbc.org Fri Jun 4 15:27:42 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:57:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201006041857.43081.lawgon@au-kbc.org> On Friday 04 June 2010 18:47:42 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > We need to draft a CFP document and publish it in the mailing list as > > well as email it out to a list of interested presenters. We could use the > > email addresses collected from last year for this. > > Hmmm. I personally wouldn't mind receiving such an email but I'm sure > there are lots of privacy > nazis out there who'll get their knickers in a twist if they receive > such an email. > the privacy nazi's have opted for privacy - no harm in sending a mail to the rest of them who have agreed to receive a mail even from the sponsors. You should be having a copy of the list of the non-privacy guys -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From noufal at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 15:28:53 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:58:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: <201006041857.43081.lawgon@au-kbc.org> References: <201006041857.43081.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [..] > the privacy nazi's have opted for privacy - no harm in sending a mail to the > rest of them who have agreed to receive a mail even from the sponsors. You > should be having a copy of the list of the non-privacy guys Yup. I think I do. Anyway, I think we'll get this kickstarted. Anand is working on the CFP which should be ready over the weekend. Anyone else have some free time a couple of months later to review some proposals? This is something that requires a lot of people so every little bit helps. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From lawgon at au-kbc.org Fri Jun 4 15:34:41 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:04:41 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: <201006041857.43081.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: <201006041904.41320.lawgon@au-kbc.org> On Friday 04 June 2010 18:58:53 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Anyone else have some free time a couple of months later to review > some proposals? This is something that requires a lot of people so > every little bit helps. > I assume you will have a mechanism in place for reviewers to make their comments and vote? -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From noufal at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 15:42:24 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:12:24 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: <201006041904.41320.lawgon@au-kbc.org> References: <201006041857.43081.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006041904.41320.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 04 June 2010 18:58:53 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> Anyone else have some free time a couple of months later to review >> some proposals? This is something that requires a lot of people so >> every little bit helps. >> > > I assume you will have a mechanism in place for reviewers to make their > comments and vote? I haven't really thought about it. I'm not even sure how to do the review. Is it going to be all the reviewers looking at all the proposals or some kind of split up etc. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 4 16:40:24 2010 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:10:24 +0530 (IST) Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <495485.59078.qm@web95311.mail.in2.yahoo.com> +1 with regard'svijay kumar bang --- On Fri, 4/6/10, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: From: Noufal Ibrahim Subject: Re: [Inpycon] CFPs To: "Mailing list for the PyCon India conference" Date: Friday, 4 June, 2010, 6:58 PM On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 6:57 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [..] > the privacy nazi's have opted for privacy - no harm in sending a mail to the > rest of them who have agreed to receive a mail even from the sponsors. You > should be having a copy of the list of the non-privacy guys Yup. I think I do. Anyway, I think we'll get this kickstarted. Anand is working on the CFP which should be ready over the weekend. Anyone else have some free time a couple of months later to review some proposals? This is something that requires a lot of people so every little bit helps. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abpillai at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 17:00:09 2010 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:30:09 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: <201006041904.41320.lawgon@au-kbc.org> References: <201006041857.43081.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006041904.41320.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Friday 04 June 2010 18:58:53 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Anyone else have some free time a couple of months later to review > > some proposals? This is something that requires a lot of people so > > every little bit helps. > > > > I assume you will have a mechanism in place for reviewers to make their > comments and vote? > Shouldn't google docs be enough for this ? We can create one account for this which the reviewers can use. It can be shared with anyone else who is interested. I guess it allows annotations & comments. > -- > Regards > Kenneth Gonsalves > Senior Associate > NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Fri Jun 4 17:13:37 2010 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:43:37 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: <201006041857.43081.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006041904.41320.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: 2010/6/4 Anand Balachandran Pillai : > > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:04 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >> >> On Friday 04 June 2010 18:58:53 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> > Anyone else have some free time a couple of months later to review >> > some proposals? This is something that requires a lot of people so >> > every little bit helps. >> > >> >> I assume you will have a mechanism in place for reviewers to make their >> comments and vote? > > Shouldn't google docs be enough for this ? We can create one account > for this which the reviewers can use. It can be shared with anyone else > who is interested. I guess it allows annotations & comments. we can use the conference website. It is a wiki. I can make part of the website admin read-only if required. Anand From anandology at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 03:01:18 2010 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 06:31:18 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] in.pycon.org got a new design Message-ID: Abhishek has provided a wonderful new design for the in.pycon.org website. The design is live now. Please have a look at it and let us know your feedback. http://in.pycon.org/2010/ @abhishek thanks for your creative efforts. Anand From ashok.raavi at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 04:20:12 2010 From: ashok.raavi at gmail.com (ashok raavi) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 07:50:12 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] in.pycon.org got a new design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Abhishek has provided a wonderful new design for the in.pycon.org > website. The design is live now. Please have a look at it and let us > know your feedback. > > http://in.pycon.org/2010/ one correction, count down under the date is counting down to August 25th. > > > @abhishek thanks for your creative efforts. > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- ashok raavi -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lawgon at au-kbc.org Sat Jun 5 05:08:58 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 08:38:58 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: <201006041904.41320.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: <201006050838.58722.lawgon@au-kbc.org> On Friday 04 June 2010 19:12:24 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > I assume you will have a mechanism in place for reviewers to make their > > comments and vote? > > I haven't really thought about it. > > I'm not even sure how to do the review. Is it going to be all the > reviewers looking at all the proposals or some kind of split up etc. > the way we did it last year was that reviewers could comment on the proposal and/or rate it +1, 0, -1. The authors had access to modify it. The set of reviewers was controlled by decorators - one specifying who can view the proposal, one for comments and one for rating. We had set it as - world viewable, registered users could comment and rate, one vote per head and only authors could modify. Of course each of these rights could be restricted to any subset of registered users. Once we decide which rights are given to whom, implementation would be trivial. -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From anandology at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 06:17:16 2010 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 09:47:16 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] in.pycon.org got a new design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2010/6/5 ashok raavi : > > > On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: >> >> Abhishek has provided a wonderful new design for the in.pycon.org >> website. The design is live now. Please have a look at it and let us >> know your feedback. >> >> http://in.pycon.org/2010/ > > one correction, count down under the date is counting down to August 25th. Good catch. Corrected the date. Looks like the counter is designed to work with only 2 digits. It is showing only the 2 digits in the days. I'll try to fix that. Anand From anandology at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 06:27:59 2010 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 09:57:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] in.pycon.org got a new design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >> one correction, count down under the date is counting down to August 25th. > > Good catch. Corrected the date. Looks like the counter is designed to > work with only 2 digits. It is showing only the 2 digits in the days. > I'll try to fix that. Fixed now. From noufal at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 07:03:56 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 10:33:56 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: <201006050838.58722.lawgon@au-kbc.org> References: <201006041904.41320.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006050838.58722.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 8:38 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [..] > the way we did it last year was that reviewers could comment on the proposal > and/or rate it +1, 0, -1. The authors had access to modify it. The set of > reviewers was controlled by decorators - one specifying who can view the > proposal, one for comments and one for rating. We had set it as - world > viewable, registered users could comment and rate, one vote per head and only > authors could modify. Of course each of these rights could be restricted to > any subset of registered users. True but the problem was that we were so close to the deadline that we couldn't get any reviewers and Baiju and I had to make do with a quick scan of the proposals. We didn't use any of the features which the software provided. I don't think it's that big a problem. A wiki or a shared google doc should be enough. Users voting is pretty pointless. Feedback from the audience *after* a talk has been presented in a lot more valuable. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From noufal at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 07:15:59 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 10:45:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] in.pycon.org got a new design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 6:31 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Abhishek has provided a wonderful new design for the in.pycon.org > website. The design is live now. Please have a look at it and let us > know your feedback. > > http://in.pycon.org/2010/ It looks nice. I noticed that you subdued the header a little. Something in the back of my brain says that it looks a little dull but that's just me. Thanks for your work Abhishek -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From lawgon at au-kbc.org Sat Jun 5 07:41:17 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:11:17 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: <201006050838.58722.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: <201006051111.17165.lawgon@au-kbc.org> On Saturday 05 June 2010 10:33:56 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > and/or rate it +1, 0, -1. The authors had access to modify it. The set of > > reviewers was controlled by decorators - one specifying who can view the > > proposal, one for comments and one for rating. We had set it as - world > > viewable, registered users could comment and rate, one vote per head and > > only authors could modify. Of course each of these rights could be > > restricted to any subset of registered users. > > True but the problem was that we were so close to the deadline that we > couldn't get any reviewers and Baiju and I had to make do with a quick > scan of the proposals. We didn't use any of the features which the > software provided. > > I don't think it's that big a problem. A wiki or a shared google doc > should be enough. Users voting is pretty pointless. Feedback from the > audience after a talk has been presented in a lot more valuable. > you have not got the point I am making. The point is that we have to decide the following: 1. are proposals public or not 2. who reviews them 3. who makes the final decision 4. is there to be interaction with the author before a final decision is taken once this is decided an appropriate mechanism can be put in place. -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From lawgon at au-kbc.org Sat Jun 5 07:42:22 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:12:22 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] in.pycon.org got a new design In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201006051112.22357.lawgon@au-kbc.org> On Saturday 05 June 2010 09:47:16 Anand Chitipothu wrote: > >> http://in.pycon.org/2010/ > > > > one correction, count down under the date is counting down to August > > 25th. > > Good catch. Corrected the date. Looks like the counter is designed to > work with only 2 digits. It is showing only the 2 digits in the days. > I'll try to fix that. > the counter is too big - it should be smaller and less intrusive. And I think we can do without the seconds (we are not launching a spaceship) -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From baiju.m.mail at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 07:55:38 2010 From: baiju.m.mail at gmail.com (Baiju M) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:25:38 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Page for Venue Message-ID: Hi, FYI, I have created page for venue and linked from main page: http://in.pycon.org/2010/venue Regards, Baiju M From noufal at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 08:02:17 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:32:17 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Page for Venue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Baiju M wrote: > Hi, > ? ?FYI, I have created page for venue and linked from main page: > http://in.pycon.org/2010/venue Maybe we could put soething in the top navbar which says "venue". linking to this page? -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From noufal at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 08:05:34 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:35:34 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: <201006051111.17165.lawgon@au-kbc.org> References: <201006050838.58722.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006051111.17165.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [..] > you have not got the point I am making. The point is that we have to decide > the following: > > 1. are proposals public or not Nope. They get mailed/uploaded, a committee reviews them and it's over. The junta doesn't have a say in picking/commenting on proposals. > 2. who reviews them The committee which we're trying to set up. Anand Pillai is one of the members and more are welcome. > 3. who makes the final decision We'll appoint someone to *head* it. Anand has already started work on the CFP so if he's willing to own this up, it'd be perfect. > 4. is there to be interaction with the author before a final decision is taken Case by case basis although I see no reason why not to do this. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From lawgon at au-kbc.org Sat Jun 5 08:15:31 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:45:31 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: <201006051111.17165.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: <201006051145.31138.lawgon@au-kbc.org> On Saturday 05 June 2010 11:35:34 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > 1. are proposals public or not > > Nope. They get mailed/uploaded, a committee reviews them and it's > over. The junta doesn't have a say in picking/commenting on proposals. > any special reason for this? IMO for a community event public exposure is good. However if this decision holds, there is no need to discuss the process at all - proposals get mailed to the head of the committee. He circulates it among the members, decides on the selected talks and it gets put up on the site. -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From baiju.m.mail at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 08:19:35 2010 From: baiju.m.mail at gmail.com (Baiju M) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:49:35 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Page for Venue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Baiju M wrote: > Hi, > ? ?FYI, I have created page for venue and linked from main page: > http://in.pycon.org/2010/venue Can anyone please add information about near by hotels there. (If required we can move it to a separate page also) Regards, Baiju M From noufal at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 08:27:40 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 11:57:40 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: <201006051145.31138.lawgon@au-kbc.org> References: <201006051111.17165.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006051145.31138.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Saturday 05 June 2010 11:35:34 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> > 1. are proposals public or not >> >> Nope. They get mailed/uploaded, a committee reviews them and it's >> over. The junta doesn't have a say in picking/commenting on proposals. >> > > any special reason for this? IMO for a community event public exposure is > good. However if this decision holds, there is no need to discuss the process > at all - proposals get mailed to the head of the committee. He circulates it > among the members, decides on the selected talks and it gets put up on the > site. That's what I thought and it's what seems most natural to me. Quite frankly, your line of thought didn't even occur to me. I'm not sure how much benefit there will be in soliciting comments from the general audience and trying to make it more 'democratic'. However, if there's sufficient interest in doing it this way, we can go ahead. I'm not religious about it either way. I feel that your approach requires more work and coordination. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From baiju.m.mail at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 08:36:41 2010 From: baiju.m.mail at gmail.com (Baiju M) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 12:06:41 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Twitter updates Message-ID: Hi All, I have added twitter updates (widget) to main page: http://in.pycon.org/2010/ BTW, our official twitter tag is #inpycon2010 Regards, Baiju M From noufal at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 08:38:29 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 12:08:29 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Twitter updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:06 PM, Baiju M wrote: > Hi All, > ? ? ? ?I have added twitter updates (widget) to main page: > http://in.pycon.org/2010/ > > BTW, our official twitter tag is #inpycon2010 neat.:) -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From lawgon at au-kbc.org Sat Jun 5 08:48:42 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 12:18:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: <201006051145.31138.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: <201006051218.42215.lawgon@au-kbc.org> On Saturday 05 June 2010 11:57:40 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > any special reason for this? IMO for a community event public exposure is > > good. However if this decision holds, there is no need to discuss the > > process at all - proposals get mailed to the head of the committee. He > > circulates it among the members, decides on the selected talks and it > > gets put up on the site. > > That's what I thought and it's what seems most natural to me. Quite > frankly, your line of thought didn't even occur to me. > I'm not sure how much benefit there will be in soliciting comments > from the general audience and trying to make it more 'democratic'. > not really a question of being democratic. It is rather that the conference is in its initial stages - not like a well established conference like pycon where there are thousands of aspiring speakers. Here speakers would like to see who else has proposed talks and on what - the 'junta' would also like to see what kind of interest is being generated and what kind of level of speaker participation is going to be at. A lot of people who have something to say are diffident about it - but when they see X is proposing some sort of talk and then they say: If that guy can talk - so can I. Permitting the 'junta' to comment or rate on site may not be necessary, they can as well comment and rate on the mailing list. Of course the final decision should be by the committee, taking into account discussions. Further the organisers can also say things like - xyz subject is not covered, some one please come forward. -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From hvram1 at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 08:53:33 2010 From: hvram1 at gmail.com (Harihara Vinayakaram) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 12:23:33 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: References: <201006051111.17165.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006051145.31138.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves > wrote: > > On Saturday 05 June 2010 11:35:34 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > >> > 1. are proposals public or not > >> > >> Nope. They get mailed/uploaded, a committee reviews them and it's > >> over. The junta doesn't have a say in picking/commenting on proposals. > >> > > > > any special reason for this? IMO for a community event public exposure is > > good. However if this decision holds, there is no need to discuss the > process > > at all - proposals get mailed to the head of the committee. He circulates > it > > among the members, decides on the selected talks and it gets put up on > the > > site. > > That's what I thought and it's what seems most natural to me. Quite > frankly, your line of thought didn't even occur to me. > I'm not sure how much benefit there will be in soliciting comments > from the general audience and trying to make it more 'democratic'. > I like Kenneth's thought process. It does not seem to a question of 'democratic' . It is just that public exposure is good for a variety of reasons. More so for a fledgling event . Making the transition is faster rather than later when having a big event Regards Hari > > However, if there's sufficient interest in doing it this way, we can > go ahead. I'm not religious about it either way. I feel that your > approach requires more work and coordination. > > > -- > ~noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 08:58:32 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 12:28:32 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFPs In-Reply-To: <201006051218.42215.lawgon@au-kbc.org> References: <201006051145.31138.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006051218.42215.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: [..] > not really a question of being democratic. It is rather that the conference is > in its initial stages - not like a well established conference like pycon > where there are thousands of aspiring speakers. Here speakers would like to > see who else has proposed talks and on what - the 'junta' would also like to > see what kind of interest is being generated and what kind of level of speaker > participation is going to be at. A lot of people who have something to say are > diffident about it - but when they see X is proposing some sort of talk and then > they say: If that guy can talk - so can I. This makes a lot of sense. Thanks. Once Anand comes out with the CFP, we'll see how we can structure this so that the proposals are publicised properly. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From ideamonk at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 18:42:33 2010 From: ideamonk at gmail.com (Abhishek Mishra) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:12:33 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Twitter updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks! I added a line about #inpycon2010 being the official hashtag for the event. 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The etched look of the top level menu looks really cool. Perhaps the font could be a little more darker i.e more emphasized ? The whole thing looks cool, almost winter-like theme, especially with the "star" logo that looks like a snow-flake. What does it signify btw ? Regards --Anand -- > Regards > Kenneth Gonsalves > Senior Associate > NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abpillai at gmail.com Sat Jun 5 19:13:32 2010 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 2010 22:43:32 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Twitter updates In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Abhishek Mishra wrote: > Thanks! > I added a line about #inpycon2010 being the official hashtag for the event. > Cool. 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It is showing only the 2 digits in the days. >> > I'll try to fix that. >> > >> >> the counter is too big - it should be smaller and less intrusive. And I >> think >> we can do without the seconds (we are not launching a spaceship) >> > > Very nice, eye-pleasing look. Good work! > I agree with Kenneth's observation regarding the counter. > > The etched look of the top level menu looks really cool. > Perhaps the font could be a little more darker i.e more > emphasized ? > > The whole thing looks cool, almost winter-like theme, > especially with the "star" logo that looks like a snow-flake. > What does it signify btw ? > > Regards > > --Anand > > Sorry to say. But I don't think this is very appealing to my own tastes, however quirky or grotesque my taste may be. I really think you must stick to simple and white background, the colour appeal is over all dull. 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I can't over emphasise the need to review and get this out the door quickly and to publicise the CFP. It would be wonderful if you folks on the list can take a look see at the draft on the link above and suggest corrections. If there are typos, formatting fixes etc., it's a wiki, please go ahead and make them. For larger changes, do mail back to the list. Please take a look and mail back. We have to get this out by the week and flood the interwebs with notifications about this. This is the main part of the conf! Thanks. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From santhosh.divakar at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 12:52:59 2010 From: santhosh.divakar at gmail.com (Santhosh Divakar) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:22:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > wiki, please go ahead and make them. For larger changes, do mail back > to the list. > > Please take a look and mail back. We have to get this out by the > week and flood the interwebs with notifications about this. . > > The draft looks superb in my view, just two suggestions to change. "PyCon India is the first..." , we already had another conference last year, so this should not be named first. We could probably have it like "PyCon India is the only conference of its kind..." "India for the 2nd time from Sep 25-26 2010" ==> "India for the 2nd time from Sep 25 to Sep26 ' 2010" -Thanks Santhosh -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anand.shashwat at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 12:59:30 2010 From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:29:30 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Feel free to edit, it's a wiki after all. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:22 PM, Santhosh Divakar wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > >> wiki, please go ahead and make them. 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Thanks --Anand On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Hello everyone, > Anand has sent me a draft of the CFP which I've put up on the wiki > at http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/CallForProposals > > The formatting is a little rusty since my own laptop has all but > bitten the dust and I'm doing this on a friends machine with a foreign > environment. > > We're late with this. If we don't get this out in a few days, our > entire conference is going to suffer. Bad talks is the death blow to > an event like ours and we have to take all steps to keep the quality > high. The main way to do it is to give people time to submit stuff and > to review the submissions seriously before the conference. Anand's > proposals have timelines in them which are quite tight but the best we > can manage right now. > > I can't over emphasise the need to review and get this out the door > quickly and to publicise the CFP. It would be wonderful if you folks > on the list can take a look see at the draft on the link above and > suggest corrections. If there are typos, formatting fixes etc., it's a > wiki, please go ahead and make them. For larger changes, do mail back > to the list. > > Please take a look and mail back. We have to get this out by the > week and flood the interwebs with notifications about this. This is > the main part of the conf! > > Thanks. > > > -- > ~noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abpillai at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 13:01:55 2010 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:31:55 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpillai at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for writing Noufal, I got a bit busy at office to upload > this in time. > > It is done and the URL is http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/CFP. > Please ignore the previous URL sent by Noufal. > > Go through this and let me know your comments. I am top-posting > specifically so that this email doesn't go un-noticed. > > I would like to know if it is possible to have a proposal submission > system on the web-site in place by June 11th. Something like > a simple web-form which can be used by the submitter to upload > proposals. If so I will update with it and provide more details. > > If we prefer the simpler email way, then I need a > email where we can receive proposals. I don't want to give a personal > email address here - so I request suggestions. Can we have > ? > Btw, sorry for the short notice, but it would be great if feedback is received by June 10th i.e within 2 days. We should try to open it up by at most June 14th i.e next Monday, though if possible keep the same date, i.e June 11th. > > Thanks > > --Anand > > > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > >> Hello everyone, >> Anand has sent me a draft of the CFP which I've put up on the wiki >> at http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/CallForProposals >> >> The formatting is a little rusty since my own laptop has all but >> bitten the dust and I'm doing this on a friends machine with a foreign >> environment. >> >> We're late with this. If we don't get this out in a few days, our >> entire conference is going to suffer. Bad talks is the death blow to >> an event like ours and we have to take all steps to keep the quality >> high. The main way to do it is to give people time to submit stuff and >> to review the submissions seriously before the conference. Anand's >> proposals have timelines in them which are quite tight but the best we >> can manage right now. >> >> I can't over emphasise the need to review and get this out the door >> quickly and to publicise the CFP. It would be wonderful if you folks >> on the list can take a look see at the draft on the link above and >> suggest corrections. If there are typos, formatting fixes etc., it's a >> wiki, please go ahead and make them. For larger changes, do mail back >> to the list. >> >> Please take a look and mail back. We have to get this out by the >> week and flood the interwebs with notifications about this. This is >> the main part of the conf! >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> -- >> ~noufal >> http://nibrahim.net.in >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > > > > -- > --Anand > > > > -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anand.shashwat at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 13:09:47 2010 From: anand.shashwat at gmail.com (Shashwat Anand) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 16:39:47 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The CFP draft looks great. Did some trivial edits. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpillai at gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:30 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < > abpillai at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for writing Noufal, I got a bit busy at office to upload >> this in time. >> >> It is done and the URL is http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/CFP. >> Please ignore the previous URL sent by Noufal. >> >> Go through this and let me know your comments. I am top-posting >> specifically so that this email doesn't go un-noticed. >> >> I would like to know if it is possible to have a proposal submission >> system on the web-site in place by June 11th. Something like >> a simple web-form which can be used by the submitter to upload >> proposals. If so I will update with it and provide more details. >> >> If we prefer the simpler email way, then I need a >> email where we can receive proposals. I don't want to give a personal >> email address here - so I request suggestions. Can we have >> ? >> > > Btw, sorry for the short notice, but it would be great if feedback is > received by June 10th i.e within 2 days. We should try to open it up > by at most June 14th i.e next Monday, though if possible keep the > same date, i.e June 11th. > > >> >> Thanks >> >> --Anand >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> Anand has sent me a draft of the CFP which I've put up on the wiki >>> at http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/CallForProposals >>> >>> The formatting is a little rusty since my own laptop has all but >>> bitten the dust and I'm doing this on a friends machine with a foreign >>> environment. >>> >>> We're late with this. If we don't get this out in a few days, our >>> entire conference is going to suffer. Bad talks is the death blow to >>> an event like ours and we have to take all steps to keep the quality >>> high. The main way to do it is to give people time to submit stuff and >>> to review the submissions seriously before the conference. Anand's >>> proposals have timelines in them which are quite tight but the best we >>> can manage right now. >>> >>> I can't over emphasise the need to review and get this out the door >>> quickly and to publicise the CFP. It would be wonderful if you folks >>> on the list can take a look see at the draft on the link above and >>> suggest corrections. If there are typos, formatting fixes etc., it's a >>> wiki, please go ahead and make them. For larger changes, do mail back >>> to the list. >>> >>> Please take a look and mail back. We have to get this out by the >>> week and flood the interwebs with notifications about this. This is >>> the main part of the conf! >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ~noufal >>> http://nibrahim.net.in >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> --Anand >> >> >> >> > > > -- > --Anand > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 14:33:06 2010 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 18:03:06 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > ?I would like to know if it is possible to have a proposal submission > system on the web-site in place by June 11th.? Something like > a simple web-form which can be used by the submitter to upload > proposals. If so I will update with it and provide more details. Yes, I can build a simple submission submission system. > ?If we prefer the simpler email way, then I need a > ?email where we can receive proposals. I don't want to give a personal > email address here - so I request suggestions. Can we have > ? ? I'm fine with either one. We already have contact at in.pycon.org, redirecting to Noufal. We can use that. Anand From abpillai at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 15:52:23 2010 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:22:23 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > > I would like to know if it is possible to have a proposal submission > > system on the web-site in place by June 11th. Something like > > a simple web-form which can be used by the submitter to upload > > proposals. If so I will update with it and provide more details. > > Yes, I can build a simple submission submission system. > Very good. From the CFP you can see that we need the f following details. 1. Talk title 2. Duration 3. Category tags - We can either provide some standard tags but better this be a free field where user can enter his own tags. 4. Level - beginner/intermediate/advanced 5. Summary 6. Detailed outline (for reviewers) 7. Notes (for reviewers) 8. Primary author's - up to 3 names 9. Contact email(s) - This defaults to the email address of the user by which he has registered as a delegate in the pycon site. But he should be able to specify another email address. The proposal approval, reminder etc will be sent to this email. 10. Presented in Pycon 2009 ? - This could be useful to track our talkers. 11. If (10) name of the talk (optional) > > > If we prefer the simpler email way, then I need a > > email where we can receive proposals. I don't want to give a personal > > email address here - so I request suggestions. Can we have > > ? > If we can have the form, nothing like it. We don't need both options as that will confuse the submitters. > > I'm fine with either one. We already have contact at in.pycon.org, > redirecting to Noufal. We can use that. > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > Thanks, -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 16:22:47 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 22:22:47 +0800 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > Hi, > > ? Thanks for writing Noufal, I got a bit busy at office to upload > this in time. > > ?It is done and the URL is http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/CFP . > ?Please ignore the previous URL sent by Noufal. No issues. I'll remove my link. I just put it there to expedite the business. Let's not have 2 links to confuse people. > ?Go through this and let me know your comments. I am top-posting > specifically so that this email doesn't go un-noticed. > > ?I would like to know if it is possible to have a proposal submission > system on the web-site in place by June 11th.? Something like > a simple web-form which can be used by the submitter to upload > proposals. If so I will update with it and provide more details. > > ?If we prefer the simpler email way, then I need a > ?email where we can receive proposals. I don't want to give a personal > email address here - so I request suggestions. Can we have > ? ? It would be nice to put a timeout on the submission system. I would prefer a form to email but either way is fine. We need to get the CFP up and start publicising it by the end of the week. If the form based submission is ready by then, well and good. If not, let's do email. Thanks -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 16:29:34 2010 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 19:59:34 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2010/6/8 Anand Balachandran Pillai : > > > On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: >> >> > ?I would like to know if it is possible to have a proposal submission >> > system on the web-site in place by June 11th.? Something like >> > a simple web-form which can be used by the submitter to upload >> > proposals. If so I will update with it and provide more details. >> >> Yes, I can build a simple submission submission system. > > ?Very good. From the CFP you can see that we need the f > following details. > > 1. Talk title > 2. Duration > 3. Category tags - We can either provide some standard tags but > ?better this be a free field where user can enter his own tags. > 4. Level - beginner/intermediate/advanced > 5. Summary > 6. Detailed outline (for reviewers) > 7. Notes? (for reviewers) > 8. Primary author's - up to 3 names > 9. Contact email(s) - This defaults to the email address of the > user by which he has registered as a delegate in the pycon site. > But he should be able to specify another email address. The > proposal approval, reminder etc will be sent to this email. > 10. Presented in Pycon 2009 ? - This could be useful to track our > talkers. > 11. If (10) name of the talk (optional) User doesn't have to create an account in the website to register for the conference. I don't want to make each delegate to remember yet another password. We are starting CFP before the user registrations so default values in #9 is invalid. I would like to simplify it further. 1. talk title 2. duration 3. categories 4. level 5. summary 6. authors 7. contact address 8. notes for reviewers 9. support for uploading slides I'll implement a form with 1-7 now. #8 and #9 will be implemented later. The submitter will get an email after successful submission and that email will contain a link to edit submitted talk. Anyone who knows the URL will be able to edit the talk. No registration required! Anand From noufal at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 17:29:36 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:29:36 +0800 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It would be nice to have (in addition to the following fields) a general "catch all" - something like "any other comments" since there's always extra stuff people sometimes need to say. Publicising this is going to be a little hard so let's get this out fast and then concentrate on that. Twitter, blogs, planets, mailing lists, telegrams, telephones, express messenger, word of mouth and other channels anyone can think of. On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > 2010/6/8 Anand Balachandran Pillai : >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 6:03 PM, Anand Chitipothu >> wrote: >>> >>> > ?I would like to know if it is possible to have a proposal submission >>> > system on the web-site in place by June 11th.? Something like >>> > a simple web-form which can be used by the submitter to upload >>> > proposals. If so I will update with it and provide more details. >>> >>> Yes, I can build a simple submission submission system. >> >> ?Very good. From the CFP you can see that we need the f >> following details. >> >> 1. Talk title >> 2. Duration >> 3. Category tags - We can either provide some standard tags but >> ?better this be a free field where user can enter his own tags. >> 4. Level - beginner/intermediate/advanced >> 5. Summary >> 6. Detailed outline (for reviewers) >> 7. Notes? (for reviewers) >> 8. Primary author's - up to 3 names >> 9. Contact email(s) - This defaults to the email address of the >> user by which he has registered as a delegate in the pycon site. >> But he should be able to specify another email address. The >> proposal approval, reminder etc will be sent to this email. >> 10. Presented in Pycon 2009 ? - This could be useful to track our >> talkers. >> 11. If (10) name of the talk (optional) > > User doesn't have to create an account in the website to register for > the conference. I don't want to make each delegate to remember yet > another password. We are starting CFP before the user registrations so > default values in #9 is invalid. > > I would like to simplify it further. > > 1. talk title > 2. duration > 3. categories > 4. level > 5. summary > 6. authors > 7. contact address > 8. notes for reviewers > 9. support for uploading slides > > I'll implement a form with 1-7 now. #8 and #9 will be implemented later. > > The submitter will get an email after successful submission and that > email will contain a link to edit submitted talk. Anyone who knows the > URL will be able to edit the talk. No registration required! > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 17:32:52 2010 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 21:02:52 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 2010/6/8 Noufal Ibrahim : > It would be nice to have (in addition to the following fields) a > general "catch all" - something like "any other comments" since > there's always extra stuff people sometimes need to say. For submitters or reviewers? Both, description and notes will be markdown fields. Additional notes can be added in the same field at the end if required, Anand From noufal at gmail.com Tue Jun 8 17:49:02 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2010 23:49:02 +0800 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > 2010/6/8 Noufal Ibrahim : >> It would be nice to have (in addition to the following fields) a >> general "catch all" - something like "any other comments" since >> there's always extra stuff people sometimes need to say. > > For submitters or reviewers? > > Both, description and notes will be markdown fields. Additional notes > can be added in the same field at the end if required, Silly me. I missed the "notes" field. That should work. You can ignore my previous comment and go right ahead. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From vid at svaksha.com Wed Jun 9 04:35:40 2010 From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyA=?=) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 08:20:40 +0545 Subject: [Inpycon] google-sponsorship update. Message-ID: Hi, Quick updates: 0. Unfortunately, we were are late with our request this year as Google (in US) has already allocated their conference sponsorship budget through 2010. I've been asked to contact them regarding 2011* sponsorship later, which I will unless someone else wishes to handle this (IIRC, earlier someone on the list had volunteered to talk to their google contacts, but I cant find that thread now and http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/SponsorShip, does not list anyone). IIUC, each country's Google office has a certain budget allocated per year. So if anyone has contacts in google (india) they _might_ still have budgets for 2010. 1. http://wiki.europython.eu/GoogleDiversity was something I had asked for Pycon India. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Will keep the list posted if I hear budgets for 2010 are still available. 3. I've added Pycon India to the events calendar : http://code.google.com/events/calendar/ * I assume the 2011 venue will be Chennai and wont be changed. -- thanks and regards, vid || http://svaksha.com From renukaprasadb at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 06:56:04 2010 From: renukaprasadb at gmail.com (renuka prasad) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:26:04 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] google-sponsorship update. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:05 AM, ?????? wrote: > Hi, > > Quick updates: > > 0. Unfortunately, we were are late with our request this year as > Google (in US) has already allocated their conference sponsorship > budget through 2010. I've been asked to contact them regarding 2011* > sponsorship later, which I will unless someone else wishes to handle > this (IIRC, earlier someone on the list had volunteered to talk to > their google contacts, but I cant find that thread now and > http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/SponsorShip, does not list > anyone). IIUC, each country's Google office has a certain budget > allocated per year. So if anyone has contacts in google (india) they > _might_ still have budgets for 2010. > > there is a person called B N chandra mauli ( who is in one of the top position at bangalore ), whom we can contact, should i go ahead contacting or wait > 1. http://wiki.europython.eu/GoogleDiversity was something I had asked > for Pycon India. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Will keep the list > posted if I hear budgets for 2010 are still available. > > 3. I've added Pycon India to the events calendar : > http://code.google.com/events/calendar/ > > * I assume the 2011 venue will be Chennai and wont be changed. > > -- > thanks and regards, > vid || http://svaksha.com > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vid at svaksha.com Wed Jun 9 07:08:39 2010 From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyA=?=) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 10:53:39 +0545 Subject: [Inpycon] google-sponsorship update. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:41, renuka prasad wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:05 AM, ?????? wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Quick updates: >> >> 0. Unfortunately, we were are late with our request this year as >> Google (in US) has already allocated their conference sponsorship >> budget through 2010. I've been asked to contact them regarding 2011* >> sponsorship later, which I will unless someone else wishes to handle >> this (IIRC, earlier someone on the list had volunteered to talk to >> their google contacts, but I cant find that thread now and >> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/SponsorShip, does not list >> anyone). ?IIUC, each country's Google office has a certain budget >> allocated per year. So if anyone has contacts in google (india) they >> _might_ still have budgets for 2010. >> > there is a person called B N chandra mauli ( who is in one of the top > position at bangalore ), whom we can contact, should i go ahead contacting > or? wait please go ahead. if others have a contact they can pitch in too... -- thanks and regards, vid || http://svaksha.com From lawgon at au-kbc.org Wed Jun 9 07:35:56 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 11:05:56 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201006091105.56828.lawgon@au-kbc.org> On Tuesday 08 June 2010 16:30:21 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > writing Noufal, I got a bit busy at office to upload > this in time. > > It is done and the URL is http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/CFP . > Please ignore the previous URL sent by Noufal. > looks good - I added a small clause regarding license for release of talks. We need to determine exactly what license we are going to use. Also mention of lightning talks, BOFs, sprints should be there - may be not a call for proposals yet, but at least to make sure people are aware of this and that we do not lose sight of it. -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From lawgon at thenilgiris.com Wed Jun 9 08:56:40 2010 From: lawgon at thenilgiris.com (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 12:26:40 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: <201006091105.56828.lawgon@au-kbc.org> References: <201006091105.56828.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: <201006091226.40456.lawgon@thenilgiris.com> On Wednesday 09 June 2010 11:05:56 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > It is done and the URL is http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/CFP > > . Please ignore the previous URL sent by Noufal. > > > > looks good - I added a small clause regarding license for release of talks. > We need to determine exactly what license we are going to use. Also > mention of lightning talks, BOFs, sprints should be there - may be not a > call for proposals yet, but at least to make sure people are aware of this > and that we do not lose sight of it. > I would suggest this license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ also wrt audience: 'The conference is aimed at the python community and the participants will be members of the community of various levels. Although total newcomers to python will be welcome, the conference will not be in any way focussed on introducing python.' or something on these lines ... -- regards kg http://livejournal.com/lawgon From noufal at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 14:22:40 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 20:22:40 +0800 Subject: [Inpycon] google-sponsorship update. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:56 PM, renuka prasad wrote: > > > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 8:05 AM, ?????? wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Quick updates: >> >> 0. Unfortunately, we were are late with our request this year as >> Google (in US) has already allocated their conference sponsorship >> budget through 2010. I've been asked to contact them regarding 2011* >> sponsorship later, which I will unless someone else wishes to handle >> this (IIRC, earlier someone on the list had volunteered to talk to >> their google contacts, but I cant find that thread now and >> http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/SponsorShip, does not list >> anyone). ?IIUC, each country's Google office has a certain budget >> allocated per year. So if anyone has contacts in google (india) they >> _might_ still have budgets for 2010. >> > there is a person called B N chandra mauli ( who is in one of the top > position at bangalore ), whom we can contact, should i go ahead contacting > or? wait [..] I think you should contact them but a little cautiously. Anand's point earlier about Google never wanting to be a second player is valid. If they ask for too much and for the conference to be "Google branded", we'd have to say no. No harm talking to them. Just exercise a little caution. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From noufal at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 14:28:15 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 20:28:15 +0800 Subject: [Inpycon] google-sponsorship update. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:35 AM, ?????? wrote: [..] > 1. http://wiki.europython.eu/GoogleDiversity was something I had asked > for Pycon India. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Will keep the list > posted if I hear budgets for 2010 are still available. I'm not opposed to it but I wouldn't really consider it a priority. Based on the feedback from last year, the quality of talks was low. That's the thing which I think we should spend most time and energy on. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From vid at svaksha.com Wed Jun 9 15:38:13 2010 From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyA=?=) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 19:23:13 +0545 Subject: [Inpycon] google-sponsorship update. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 18:13, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:35 AM, ?????? wrote: > [..] >> 1. http://wiki.europython.eu/GoogleDiversity was something I had asked >> for Pycon India. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Will keep the list >> posted if I hear budgets for 2010 are still available. > > I'm not opposed to it but I wouldn't really consider it a priority. > Based on the feedback from last year, the quality of talks was low. Do you mean the talks given by women? I couldnt attend last year, so cant comment. However I did have some general points: On average, the percentage of women _attending_ such (i'd have used 'floss' but this isnt one) conferences or tech-events** is low, much less as _speakers_ on a technical subject. There are a number of factors that one could cite but it would still be speculation as each individual is different. A majority of us can talk. Standing on stage and talking confidently about a technical topic in front of an audience which could have your peers or other experienced industry folks, is very different from the school/college presentation we did as students or a daily banter on a technical subject. I've seen male speakers with excellent technical knowledge getting all flustered, or stammering or forgetting parts of their presentation when audience member(s) walk out of their talk. No names please. This can happen to anyone of us but its harder for a first time speaker. Finally, travelling to conferences has its intangible costs, Time-- a scarce commodity when you are balancing a career and a home, unless your employer sponsors you. Or as a technical student, some women may not get permission to travel outside their city for a less known conference like pycon-india. There may be more but I dont know all the issues that other women face. At this point pycon-india is establishing itself --a good opportunity for a new speaker to make their mark, so to speak. I would not call it a priority to encourage new attendees or speakers (irrespective of gender) but if Google (or any other sponsor) is willing to lend a helping hand in whatever way they deem fit, it isnt something to be ignored. I would be willing to help out if a sponsor expresses interest in sponsoring women attendees or speakers. Anyone else interested is welcome too. ** Even an unconference like barcamp-bangalore, which impo is quite chilled out, so to speak, didnt have a flood of women speakers, albeit higher than the norm. -- vid || http://svaksha.com From noufal at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 16:07:18 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 22:07:18 +0800 Subject: [Inpycon] google-sponsorship update. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 9:38 PM, ?????? wrote: > On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 18:13, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:35 AM, ?????? wrote: >> [..] >>> 1. http://wiki.europython.eu/GoogleDiversity was something I had asked >>> for Pycon India. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Will keep the list >>> posted if I hear budgets for 2010 are still available. >> >> I'm not opposed to it but I wouldn't really consider it a priority. >> Based on the feedback from last year, the quality of talks was low. > > Do you mean the talks given by women? I couldnt attend last year, so > cant comment. However I did have some general points: No. I mean talks in general. There were more fundamental things than diversity wrong with the conference and I think time, energy (and perhaps money) should be spent on those rather than on those. [..] > Finally, travelling to conferences has its intangible costs, Time-- a > scarce commodity when you are balancing a career and a home, unless > your employer sponsors you. ?Or as a technical student, some ?women > may not get permission to travel outside their city for a less known > conference like pycon-india. There may be more but I dont know all the > issues that other women face. This is true although there *were* quite a few female participants last time. We did have a couple of mails from some guys in Kerala asking for financial aid and things like that but we didn't have a budget for that so had to turn them down. > At this point pycon-india is establishing itself --a good opportunity > for a new speaker to make their mark, so to speak. I would not call it > a priority to encourage new attendees or speakers (irrespective of > gender) but if Google (or any other sponsor) is willing to lend a > helping hand in whatever way they deem fit, it isnt something to be > ignored. I would be willing to help out if a sponsor expresses > interest in sponsoring women attendees or speakers. Anyone else > interested is welcome too. Piecemeal thoughts. Not necessarily relevant but which occur to me. 1. I'm more interested in getting "experienced" speakers and "new" audience. First time speakers are welcome but if they're green with development *and* green with speaking, I don't see much value in them speaking. Last year, we had a lot of "hello world" style talks by first time speakers which significantly affected the quality of the conference. 2. If Google or whoever is giving us money, it'll have to be "no strings attached" (except of course what they get for being a sponsor which is mentioned in the formal brochure). The unrest which went around on the list when the list of things from IIT-B was sent is something which I resonated with. It'd be a hassle if they offer sponsorship money for some specific purpose like "increasing audience diversity" and expect some kind of deliverable from us. This of course is different from us initiating it. If we all here feel that diversity is an important issue and that shortage of money is the reason that it's not there, going to Google or whoever to get help fixing the problem is fine. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From noufal at gmail.com Wed Jun 9 16:11:41 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 22:11:41 +0800 Subject: [Inpycon] bank account In-Reply-To: References: <201006011546.44530.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >> hi, >> >> finished the formalities today - now it is in the hands of the bank. They say a >> week to get the number as this has to come from the head office. > > Okay. Any news from the bank? -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From vid at svaksha.com Wed Jun 9 17:15:00 2010 From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?IOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyA=?=) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 21:00:00 +0545 Subject: [Inpycon] google-sponsorship update. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 19:52, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > No. I mean talks in general. There were more fundamental things than Ah, ok. Hopefully this time around things would be different?! > Piecemeal thoughts. Not necessarily relevant but which occur to me. > 1. I'm more interested in getting "experienced" speakers and "new" > audience. First time > ? ?speakers are welcome but if they're green with development *and* > green with speaking, I > ? ?don't see much value in them speaking. Last year, we had a lot of umm...i may be wrong about this but wanted to toss this out: Its important that we as organizers distinguish talks, and what kind of topics get slots. This is something that the CFP is doing atm. Secondly, we need to get the word out that not everyone needs to be a speaker. There are other forms like leading a BOF, lightning talks, technical sessions, sprints, etc where you can present your knowledge or code etc.. If we give equal importance to other forms of speaking there would be a good enough mix and interaction. > 2. If Google or whoever is giving us money, it'll have to be "no > strings attached" (except of > ? ?course what they get for being a sponsor which is mentioned in the > formal brochure). > ? ?The unrest which went around on the list when the list of things > from IIT-B was sent is > ? ?something which I resonated with. It'd be a hassle if they offer > sponsorship money for > ? ?some specific purpose like "increasing audience diversity" and > expect some kind > ? ?of deliverable from us. I dont know about deliverables, but IIUC, they'd not hand out money "einfachso" because a criteria (gender) was met. Generally speaking, if a sponsor has a specific goal (Ex. A sponsor wants 20% of the sponsorship money to be spent on a defined activity), I would think that they want the money used for that purpose only. It is their choice. YMMV. > ? ?This of course is different from us initiating it. If we all here > feel that diversity is an > ? ?important issue and that shortage of money is the reason that it's > not there, going to > ? ?Google or whoever to get help fixing the problem is fine. It was initiated by me but before pushing it further I wanted to float the idea here. This would involve some planning and discussion which is why I do want to hear thoughts and, objections are more than welcome. -- peace, vid || http://svaksha.com From lawgon at au-kbc.org Thu Jun 10 07:12:59 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:42:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] bank account In-Reply-To: References: <201006011546.44530.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: <201006101042.59148.lawgon@au-kbc.org> On Wednesday 09 June 2010 19:41:41 Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > >> hi, > >> > >> finished the formalities today - now it is in the hands of the bank. > >> They say a week to get the number as this has to come from the head > >> office. > > > > Okay. > > Any news from the bank? > this stupid bank has been 'upgrading their software' for the past month, as a result I have been waiting for upto 15 days for my cheques to get encashed. They are doing everything manually - so no option but to wait. -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From lawgon at au-kbc.org Thu Jun 10 07:14:45 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 10:44:45 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] google-sponsorship update. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201006101044.45987.lawgon@au-kbc.org> On Wednesday 09 June 2010 19:08:13 ?????? wrote: > On average, the percentage of women attending such (i'd have used > 'floss' but this isnt one) conferences or tech-events** is low, much > less as speakers on a technical subject. There are a number of > factors that one could cite but it would still be speculation as each > individual is different. > as far as attendence went - at least one third were women - but only 1.5 women speakers. -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From abpillai at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 08:20:41 2010 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:50:41 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: <201006091226.40456.lawgon@thenilgiris.com> References: <201006091105.56828.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006091226.40456.lawgon@thenilgiris.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Wednesday 09 June 2010 11:05:56 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > It is done and the URL is > http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/CFP > > > . Please ignore the previous URL sent by Noufal. > > > > > > > looks good - I added a small clause regarding license for release of > talks. > > We need to determine exactly what license we are going to use. Also > > mention of lightning talks, BOFs, sprints should be there - may be not a > > call for proposals yet, but at least to make sure people are aware of > this > > and that we do not lose sight of it. > > > > I would suggest this license: > http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/ > Added this. > > also wrt audience: > 'The conference is aimed at the python community and the participants will > be > members of the community of various levels. Although total newcomers to > python > will be welcome, the conference will not be in any way focussed on > introducing > python.' > > or something on these lines ... > Thanks very much for all the comments and updates on this. I have made some changes. Anand, if you can let me know the submit URL by EOD today, I will update the CFP with this also and send an email to the group. Then we can copy the text to the conference site and go live on this. It will be good to test the submit URL before we do so to make sure there are no obvious bugs. If you need more time for this let me know, so we can postpone this by 1 or 2 days. I would prefer to go live tomorrow as scheduled or at most by Monday June 14th since we are already running a packed schedule. > -- > regards > kg > http://livejournal.com/lawgon > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > Thanks, -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I'm planning to put a real implementation by the end of next week and I'll make sure any submissions before that are moved to the system. Any objections? Anand From abpillai at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 14:02:59 2010 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:32:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: <201006091105.56828.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006091226.40456.lawgon@thenilgiris.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > > I have made some changes. Anand, if you can let me know the > > submit URL by EOD today, I will update the CFP with this also > > and send an email to the group. Then we can copy the text to > > the conference site and go live on this. > > http://in.pycon.org/2010/talks/submit > > > It will be good to test the submit URL before we do so to > > make sure there are no obvious bugs. If you need more time > > for this let me know, so we can postpone this by 1 or 2 > > days. I would prefer to go live tomorrow as scheduled or > > at most by Monday June 14th since we are already running > > a packed schedule. > > It is ready. For now, it just sends an email to Noufal, Anand B Pillai > and Anand Chitipothu. > > I'm planning to put a real implementation by the end of next week and > I'll make sure any submissions before that are moved to the system. > > Any objections? > No problems with the email part. But regarding the interface I have a few suggestions. 1. Duration - Since we accept only 30/45 mins talk, why note make this a drop down with only these 2 choices ? 2. I had added "Description" in the CFP for detailed outline for reviewers plus notes. It is not possible to review a proposal with just a summary which we say should not be more than 100 words. This is required in the interface. 3. Can we have a "topic" category which lists the main topics I have in the CFP which the user can select then ? 4. Does it make sense to generate a unique ID for a talk that is submitted ? I am most concerned about (2), others are fine in the current form. I cannot review a talk with the information the current UI provides. Thanks --Anand > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lawgon at au-kbc.org Thu Jun 10 14:20:11 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 17:50:11 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201006101750.11805.lawgon@au-kbc.org> did a test On Thursday 10 June 2010 17:32:59 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > 1. Duration - Since we accept only 30/45 mins talk, why note make this > a drop down with only these 2 choices ? yes, needed > 2. I had added "Description" in the CFP for detailed outline for reviewers > plus notes. It is not possible to review a proposal with just a summary > which we say should not be more than 100 words. This is required > in the interface. > 3. Can we have a "topic" category which lists the main topics I have > in the CFP which the user can select then ? again needed > 4. Does it make sense to generate a unique ID for a talk that is > submitted ? > there is no verification of the email address submitted - I put an invalid one and it was accepted. Also I wonder if there is any protection against bots submitting talks - we *do* have people around who enjoy exposing such vulnerabilities ;-) and I just submitted a blank form - that went through also. Apparently there is no verification set up so far. -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From abpillai at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 14:30:11 2010 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:00:11 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: <201006101750.11805.lawgon@au-kbc.org> References: <201006101750.11805.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > did a test > > On Thursday 10 June 2010 17:32:59 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > 1. Duration - Since we accept only 30/45 mins talk, why note make this > > a drop down with only these 2 choices ? > > yes, needed > > 2. I had added "Description" in the CFP for detailed outline for > reviewers > > plus notes. It is not possible to review a proposal with just a summary > > which we say should not be more than 100 words. This is required > > in the interface. > > 3. Can we have a "topic" category which lists the main topics I have > > in the CFP which the user can select then ? > > again needed > > 4. Does it make sense to generate a unique ID for a talk that is > > submitted ? > > > > there is no verification of the email address submitted - I put an invalid > one > and it was accepted. Also I wonder if there is any protection against bots > submitting talks - we *do* have people around who enjoy exposing such > vulnerabilities ;-) > > and I just submitted a blank form - that went through also. Apparently > there > is no verification set up so far. > Oh, so it was you who did it :) Can we use simple verification like an email regex at least ? I am not sure how tough this is, but seems easier with javascript since it is quite common now a days. For bots, a CAPTCHA is needed. Perhaps we can have a simple one like what they use at wiki.python.org ? A few random questions that cycle and the user has to enter the answer ? There is no need of a complicated image CAPTCHA for this. > > -- > Regards > Kenneth Gonsalves > Senior Associate > NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lawgon at au-kbc.org Thu Jun 10 14:32:35 2010 From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 18:02:35 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: <201006101750.11805.lawgon@au-kbc.org> References: <201006101750.11805.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: <201006101802.35896.lawgon@au-kbc.org> On Thursday 10 June 2010 17:50:11 Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > did a test > > On Thursday 10 June 2010 17:32:59 Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > 1. Duration - Since we accept only 30/45 mins talk, why note make this > > a drop down with only these 2 choices ? > > yes, needed > > > 2. I had added "Description" in the CFP for detailed outline for > > reviewers plus notes. It is not possible to review a proposal with just a > > summary which we say should not be more than 100 words. This is required > > in the interface. > > 3. Can we have a "topic" category which lists the main topics I have > > in the CFP which the user can select then ? > > again needed > > > 4. Does it make sense to generate a unique ID for a talk that is > > submitted ? > > there is no verification of the email address submitted - I put an invalid > one and it was accepted. Also I wonder if there is any protection against > bots submitting talks - we *do* have people around who enjoy exposing such > vulnerabilities ;-) > > and I just submitted a blank form - that went through also. Apparently > there is no verification set up so far. > and one more thing - author profile is needed - who he is, his affiliation and qualifications/experience, background etc -- Regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Associate NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC From anandology at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 17:15:12 2010 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:45:12 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: <201006091105.56828.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006091226.40456.lawgon@thenilgiris.com> Message-ID: > 1. Duration - Since we accept only 30/45 mins talk, why note make this > a drop down with only these 2 choices ? OK. Will do it tomorrow. > 2. I had added "Description" in the CFP for detailed outline for reviewers > plus notes. It is not possible to review a proposal with just a summary > which we say should not be more than 100 words. This is required > in the interface. It is not clear to me. Do you want a description/notes field only for reviewers? The interface for reviewers is not built yet and I'll include that field when I build that. > 3. Can we have a "topic" category which lists the main topics I have > in the CFP which the user can select then ? OK. WIll do it tomorrow. > 4. Does it make sense to generate a unique ID for a talk that is > submitted ? Will be ready by next week. The URL for talks will be like talks/12-how-to-run-pycon. Anand From anandology at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 17:21:32 2010 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:51:32 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: <201006101750.11805.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: >> and I just submitted a blank form - that went through also. Apparently >> there >> is no verification set up so far. > > Oh, so it was you who did it :) > > Can we use simple verification like an email regex at least ? > I am not sure how tough this is, but seems easier with javascript > since it is quite common now a days. I'm aware of it. Will do it tomorrow. > For bots, a CAPTCHA is needed. Perhaps we can have a simple > one like what they use at wiki.python.org ? A few random questions > that cycle and the user has to enter the answer ? > > There is no need of a complicated image CAPTCHA for this. NO for captchas. I manage openlibrary.org, which gets about 200K unique visitors/day and the amount of spam is quite manageable. Yes, we run without captchas. I don't expect bot attack on in.pycon.org. May be I can add a constraint to not allow more than one talk submission in 5 miniutes from any given IP. That will take care of spam. Anand From noufal at gmail.com Thu Jun 10 18:48:53 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:48:53 +0800 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: <201006101750.11805.lawgon@au-kbc.org> Message-ID: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpillai at gmail.com> wrote: [..] > For bots, a CAPTCHA is needed. Perhaps we can have a simple > one like what they use at wiki.python.org ? A few random questions > that cycle and the user has to enter the answer ? > > There is no need of a complicated image CAPTCHA for this. > > I don't think we're popular enough to get hits from spambots. A Captcha/textcha is overkill. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Can we have a "topic" category which lists the main topics I have >> in the CFP which the user can select then ? > > OK. WIll do it tomorrow. Done. Also added validation to the form. Anand C From noufal at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 02:12:56 2010 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:12:56 +0800 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: <201006091105.56828.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006091226.40456.lawgon@thenilgiris.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > [..] > >> 2. I had added "Description" in the CFP for detailed outline for > reviewers > >> plus notes. It is not possible to review a proposal with just a summary > >> which we say should not be more than 100 words. This is required > >> in the interface. > > > > It is not clear to me. Do you want a description/notes field only for > > reviewers? The interface for reviewers is not built yet and I'll > > include that field when I build that. > [..] > Anand B.'s point is that there should be a "summary" field and a separate "description" field. The summary field is a very short (less than 100 words) summary of the presentation which will be displayed on the site when someone clicks on the talk etc. It's how the public will know what the talk is about. The Description field will be long and detailed describing exactly what the talker is intending to talk about. This is what the reviewers will look at to see if this talk can be selected or not. People will not be uploading the entire slide deck etc. when they register their talk but they will *have* to fill this and this is what will be used to review the talk and decide whether we're going to have it or not. Right? I think this makes sense -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 05:48:14 2010 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:18:14 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: <201006091105.56828.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006091226.40456.lawgon@thenilgiris.com> Message-ID: 2010/6/11 Noufal Ibrahim : > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: >> >> [..] >> >> 2. I had added "Description" in the CFP for detailed outline for >> >> reviewers >> >> plus notes. It is not possible to review a proposal with just a summary >> >> which we say should not be more than 100 words. This is required >> >> in the interface. >> > >> > It is not clear to me. Do you want a description/notes field only for >> > reviewers? The interface for reviewers is not built yet and I'll >> > include that field when I build that. >> [..] > > Anand B.'s point is that there should be a "summary" field and a separate > "description" field. > > The summary field is a very short (less than 100 words) summary of the > presentation which will be displayed on the site when someone clicks on the > talk etc. It's how the public will know what the talk is about. > > The Description field will be long and detailed describing exactly what the > talker is intending to talk about. This is what the reviewers will look at > to see if this talk can be selected or not. People will not be uploading the > entire slide deck etc. when they register their talk but they will *have* to > fill this and this is what will be used to review the talk and decide > whether we're going to have it or not. > > Right? > > I think this makes sense OK. Summary. (summary of your talk in less than 100 words). Description (describe your talk in detail for reviewers) I'm not quite happy with the the description of the "description" field. Any suggestions? Anand From anandology at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 06:03:04 2010 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:33:04 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: <201006091105.56828.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006091226.40456.lawgon@thenilgiris.com> Message-ID: > 3. Can we have a "topic" category which lists the main topics I have > in the CFP which the user can select then ? Do we still need tags? From abpillai at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 07:40:50 2010 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:10:50 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] CFP draft for review In-Reply-To: References: <201006091105.56828.lawgon@au-kbc.org> <201006091226.40456.lawgon@thenilgiris.com> Message-ID: On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > 2010/6/11 Noufal Ibrahim : > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 1:47 AM, Anand Chitipothu > > wrote: > >> > >> [..] > >> >> 2. I had added "Description" in the CFP for detailed outline for > >> >> reviewers > >> >> plus notes. It is not possible to review a proposal with just a > summary > >> >> which we say should not be more than 100 words. This is required > >> >> in the interface. > >> > > >> > It is not clear to me. Do you want a description/notes field only for > >> > reviewers? The interface for reviewers is not built yet and I'll > >> > include that field when I build that. > >> [..] > > > > Anand B.'s point is that there should be a "summary" field and a separate > > "description" field. > > > > The summary field is a very short (less than 100 words) summary of the > > presentation which will be displayed on the site when someone clicks on > the > > talk etc. It's how the public will know what the talk is about. > > > > The Description field will be long and detailed describing exactly what > the > > talker is intending to talk about. This is what the reviewers will look > at > > to see if this talk can be selected or not. People will not be uploading > the > > entire slide deck etc. when they register their talk but they will *have* > to > > fill this and this is what will be used to review the talk and decide > > whether we're going to have it or not. > > > > Right? > > > > I think this makes sense > > OK. > > Summary. (summary of your talk in less than 100 words). > > Description (describe your talk in detail for reviewers) > > I'm not quite happy with the the description of the "description" > field. Any suggestions? > The current description looks fine to me. Actually you don't need a description of the description. Just do as follows. Description Outline (A detailed outline of your talk, for reviewers only)