From abpillai at gmail.com  Mon Jan  3 07:33:51 2011
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:03:51 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Preparations for Pycon India 2011
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Hi,
            Happy New Year... Do we have any updates on the discussions in
chennaipy
mailing list ? Hope there will be some updates happening this month.

             Next poster, please start a separate thread for the
discussions.

Regards

--Anand


On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 10:43 AM, kausikram krishnasayee <kausikram at gmail.com
> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
> abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>    It is about a month and a week since Pycon India 2010.
>> We have had the rest and the feedback.
>>
>> I guess it is time to kick start the plans of action for
>> Pycon India 2011. I see that there is already some discussions
>> on the venue. Here are my suggestions, not in any particular
>> order of importance.
>>
>> 1. We need a spearhead for Pycon India 2011 in the same role
>> as Noufal, but based in Chennai, who can actually do the
>> co-ordination on the ground. The chennai folks need to do
>> this ASAP. If Noufal himself can take this up initially, great,
>> but I guess when things actually start to take shape on hand,
>> we do need someone locally.
>>
>
>>
> 2. A show of hands of folks, who would be running the show
>> from Chennai. It is useful to know who are the people involved
>> IMHO.
>>
>> I shall be taking over all coordination in the ground along with
> rajeshwari. we have around 20 people in the ground ready and willing to run
> in the ground to get things done and we hope to pull it in style.
>
> 3. Draw up a plan of action with approximate deadlines to each,
>> put this up in a wiki page and the "co-ordinator-in-chief" needs to
>> follow this up. I am not going into details now.
>>
> We have a tentative deadline as of now to get the venue settled. most of
> the colleges around are having their end semester examinations now and dont
> want to be bothered for the next 2 weeks. i shall be taking to them as soon
> as these exams get over and start making arrangements. meanwhile a couple of
> us will also be going about photographing the venue and putting it on this
> list for all the volunteers to have a look.
> i shall ciculate an alpha draft of schedule by the end of tomorrow
> (wednesday nov 3, 2010) following which we can grill it overhere and get it
> ratified by the community.
>
>>
>> 5.  Get the branding right. We need to decide on a single
>> "logo" and theme early on - these discussions need to happen
>> in parallel with the actual conference grounds-stuff discussions.
>>
> we have two options.
> A)we shall indulge in the community generated logo exercise again. and get
> the logo finalized by the end of january.
> B) use existing branding material from the previous years conference.
>
> we need to decide on that.
>
>
>> 6. I suggest a separate mailing list purely for conference organizers
>> apart from this one which anyone interested in the conference can
>> listen in. I will get this done in a week, if there is consensus. This
>> will
>> require permission to join and won't be open.
>>
> can we put this in cold storage for now ? we will have some discussions
> happening here and if people complain of a high noise to signal ratio, then
> we shall take this up again.
>
> kausik
>
> --
> Kausikram Krishnasayee
> Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.in | Blog:
> blog.kausikram.in | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email:
> kausikram at gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490
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From tshrinivasan at gmail.com  Mon Jan  3 07:41:24 2011
From: tshrinivasan at gmail.com (Shrinivasan T)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:11:24 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] How to record videos of talks?
Message-ID: <AANLkTinzdc9=crmJR7RcE82Bj_nsuvVX0U603PFOwm=c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

We are planning to record videos on various FOSS topics with various speakers.
We bought a digital video cam.

Need suggestions on how to record the videos?

How to record the projector output and the speaker?
What are the hardware and cables we require?
How to add a small box in the video to show the speaker?

What is the software you use to mix the videos?

Thanks.
-- 
Regards,
T.Shrinivasan


My Life with GNU/Linux : http://goinggnu.wordpress.com
Free/Open Source Jobs : http://fossjobs.in

From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com  Mon Jan  3 09:48:23 2011
From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:18:23 +0530 (IST)
Subject: [Inpycon] How to record videos of talks?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinzdc9=crmJR7RcE82Bj_nsuvVX0U603PFOwm=c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <264497.26328.qm@web95307.mail.in2.yahoo.com>

Hi Srinivas,?? For inpycon vodex guys did it. They have software of?their?own with help of that they mixed ppt, audio and?video?in one?video?format.?? ?You can contact them at this mai lid?pycon2010 at vodex.in?

With Regards
Vijay


--- On Mon, 3/1/11, Shrinivasan T <tshrinivasan at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Shrinivasan T <tshrinivasan at gmail.com>
Subject: [Inpycon] How to record videos of talks?
To: Inpycon at python.org
Date: Monday, 3 January, 2011, 12:11 PM

Hi,

We are planning to record videos on various FOSS topics with various speakers.
We bought a digital video cam.

Need suggestions on how to record the videos?

How to record the projector output and the speaker?
What are the hardware and cables we require?
How to add a small box in the video to show the speaker?

What is the software you use to mix the videos?

Thanks.
-- 
Regards,
T.Shrinivasan


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From siddharta.lists at gmail.com  Mon Jan  3 09:55:03 2011
From: siddharta.lists at gmail.com (Siddharta G)
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 14:25:03 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] How to record videos of talks?
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Hi Shrini,

If you want to do it yourself, there are a few ways to go with this.

The simplest is to get a web camera, and attach it to a laptop/desktop with
a decent Internet connection. Position it so that the projector & speaker
are visible. Then sign up for ustream.tv and broadcast via the site. Not
only will you get live streaming of the talk, it automatically gets recorded
and archived so you can view it later.

Another way is to use a screencasting software on the presentation laptop.
Connect a mic to the laptop and start recording when the presentation
starts. You'll get the slides with the voiceover, but you won't have a
direct video of the speaker.

The most professional (& expensive) way is to get a proper video camera,
connect the mic to the camera audio in and record the presenter. At the same
time, run the screencasting software on the laptop to record the
presentation (or you can use a second video camera for this). You can then
use a video editing software to load the presentation video and use a
picture-in-picture feature to play the presenter video in a box on the side.
You can then write out the edited video on to a DVD or upload it somewhere.
Typically a professional guy will do all this for you, so you just have to
call him (see Vijay's post above).

--
Siddharta
http://toolsforagile.com

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:11 PM, Shrinivasan T <tshrinivasan at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We are planning to record videos on various FOSS topics with various
> speakers.
> We bought a digital video cam.
>
> Need suggestions on how to record the videos?
>
> How to record the projector output and the speaker?
> What are the hardware and cables we require?
> How to add a small box in the video to show the speaker?
>
> What is the software you use to mix the videos?
>
> Thanks.
> --
> Regards,
> T.Shrinivasan
>
>
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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jan  3 10:37:02 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:07:02 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] How to record videos of talks?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinzdc9=crmJR7RcE82Bj_nsuvVX0U603PFOwm=c@mail.gmail.com>
	(Shrinivasan T.'s message of "Mon, 3 Jan 2011 12:11:24 +0530")
References: <AANLkTinzdc9=crmJR7RcE82Bj_nsuvVX0U603PFOwm=c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <877hempbup.fsf@gmail.com>


For PyCon India, we simply outsourced this.

On Mon, Jan 03 2011, Shrinivasan T wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We are planning to record videos on various FOSS topics with various speakers.
> We bought a digital video cam.
>
> Need suggestions on how to record the videos?
>
> How to record the projector output and the speaker?
> What are the hardware and cables we require?
> How to add a small box in the video to show the speaker?
>
> What is the software you use to mix the videos?
>
> Thanks.

-- 

From kausikram at gmail.com  Tue Jan  4 09:32:10 2011
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:02:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Kicking off PyCon India 2011 Preparations
Message-ID: <AANLkTimeqs-QT+hjq9RTa6XhfmjbdG3TBzqj-HMq7Q0w@mail.gmail.com>

Dear All,
previously i had written to this mailing list saying that all the
Engineering Colleges around had been in the middle of their exams and that
we had little scope of progress in the last month and a half. The exams as
of now are all over and all the colleges are back into a relaxed mood.

Also,
this is a good time to start off on work regarding the actual conference and
hence this email, which is a a general call for volunteers to start work on
PyCon India 2011.

Our activities can be broadly classified into work at ground (setting up the
venue getting wifi connectivity, arranging for food etc etc) and a set of
related activities that can be performed on the internet/phone (sponsorship,
website admins, speakers coordination etc)

Following this email, two emails will be sent to this group calling for
volunteers in each of these segments. we would encourage active
participation from as many people as possible lets all join together and
contribute to pycon india 2011.

Cheers,
kausik


-- 
Kausikram Krishnasayee
Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.in | Blog:
blog.kausikram.in | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email:
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From kausikram at gmail.com  Tue Jan  4 10:11:52 2011
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:41:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2011 - Ground Team Activities
Message-ID: <AANLkTinSk8_Li27--QKBrFS6og1pi2NadpYuYvmCm1zN@mail.gmail.com>

These are a set of activities / tasks which need to be completed at Chennai.
I am taking cue from last years venue requirements [from the wiki] and
spawning this thread. after some initial discussions we should be moving the
content into the pyconinida wiki. please add on if i had missed something.
and please volunteer if you are from chennai :D


* Venue Requirement
  Status: We have shortlisted a potential list of colleges that we can
approach to host PyCon India 2010. before we zero in on a few colleges we
need to take a look at a few things. namely:
    ** What is the total number of participants we are expecting / will be
comfortable with?
    ** How many tracks should we be planning for?
    ** Are we planning hackathons? if so what are the requirements for it?

  ** Based on discussions on the above questions. we need to short list a
few potential colleges, and workout on the tradeoffs between travel
distance, comfort and general college prominence.

* Catering
  Status: got a list of caterers who usually supply for the barcamps and
other such meetups.
  ** We need a few people who can engage the caterers and get the best
rates.

* Wifi
  Status: some colleges have their own wifi network setup that can be used.
  ** if it cant hold over required bandwidth we can approach the wimax
providers to provide us with a dedicated connection at a cost.
  ** In either case we need a bunch of network geeks who can do a better and
more detailed feasibility study once the venue is decided.

* Banners / Artworks:
  ** Artwork gets done remotely over the Internet.
  ** Once we freeze on the collateral we will be good to print.

* Audio-Video:
  ** Colleges have projectors. and some also have inbuilt Audio systems.
  ** However there might arise a need to hire a professional AV team, in
which case we need a person to coordinate / liaison.

* Video Recording / Post Proc:
  ** This will defiantly need professional handling and will also need a
dedicated set of individuals that would instruct the ideograph on what needs
to be videographed and what need not.

hope i got most of the things listed. i am sure i missed a few please do
feel free to add on.


cheers,
kausik
-- 
Kausikram Krishnasayee
Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.in | Blog:
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From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Jan  4 10:25:13 2011
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:55:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Kicking off PyCon India 2011 Preparations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimeqs-QT+hjq9RTa6XhfmjbdG3TBzqj-HMq7Q0w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimeqs-QT+hjq9RTa6XhfmjbdG3TBzqj-HMq7Q0w@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:02 PM, kausikram krishnasayee
<kausikram at gmail.com>wrote:

> Dear All,
> previously i had written to this mailing list saying that all the
> Engineering Colleges around had been in the middle of their exams and that
> we had little scope of progress in the last month and a half. The exams as
> of now are all over and all the colleges are back into a relaxed mood.
>
> Also,
> this is a good time to start off on work regarding the actual conference
> and hence this email, which is a a general call for volunteers to start work
> on PyCon India 2011.
>
> Our activities can be broadly classified into work at ground (setting up
> the venue getting wifi connectivity, arranging for food etc etc) and a set
> of related activities that can be performed on the internet/phone
> (sponsorship, website admins, speakers coordination etc)
>
> Following this email, two emails will be sent to this group calling for
> volunteers in each of these segments. we would encourage active
> participation from as many people as possible lets all join together and
> contribute to pycon india 2011.
>


Thanks for taking the lead on this Kaushik. It is about time we started off
our
preparations, so I am happy that the thinking has started.

The Bangalore coordinators including myself can help out with the work
"off the ground" such as Sponsorships, Talks co-ordination etc.

I think we should get the website for Pycon 2011 in order as one of the
initial tasks and send out call for talk proposals by March 2011. This
gives us ample time to select and review the talks rather than doing
a rush-hour job like I had to do last year cuz we were late with the CFP.

Thanks,

--Anand


>
> Cheers,
> kausik
>
>
> --
> Kausikram Krishnasayee
> Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.in | Blog:
> blog.kausikram.in | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email:
> kausikram at gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490
>
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From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Jan  4 10:27:00 2011
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:57:00 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Kicking off PyCon India 2011 Preparations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=R1gffgn62BOAQCqeZZ4H82nAcv0h7FABvcwik@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimeqs-QT+hjq9RTa6XhfmjbdG3TBzqj-HMq7Q0w@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai <
abpillai at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:02 PM, kausikram krishnasayee <
> kausikram at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>> previously i had written to this mailing list saying that all the
>> Engineering Colleges around had been in the middle of their exams and that
>> we had little scope of progress in the last month and a half. The exams as
>> of now are all over and all the colleges are back into a relaxed mood.
>>
>> Also,
>> this is a good time to start off on work regarding the actual conference
>> and hence this email, which is a a general call for volunteers to start work
>> on PyCon India 2011.
>>
>> Our activities can be broadly classified into work at ground (setting up
>> the venue getting wifi connectivity, arranging for food etc etc) and a set
>> of related activities that can be performed on the internet/phone
>> (sponsorship, website admins, speakers coordination etc)
>>
>> Following this email, two emails will be sent to this group calling for
>> volunteers in each of these segments. we would encourage active
>> participation from as many people as possible lets all join together and
>> contribute to pycon india 2011.
>>
>
>
> Thanks for taking the lead on this Kaushik. It is about time we started off
> our
> preparations, so I am happy that the thinking has started.
>
> The Bangalore coordinators including myself can help out with the work
> "off the ground" such as Sponsorships, Talks co-ordination etc.
>
> I think we should get the website for Pycon 2011 in order as one of the
> initial tasks and send out call for talk proposals by March 2011. This
> gives us ample time to select and review the talks rather than doing
> a rush-hour job like I had to do last year cuz we were late with the CFP.
>
>
 In case it was not clear, I can take the lead/help out with the CFP
 this time also :)


> Thanks,
>
> --Anand
>
>
>>
>>
>>

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From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jan  4 11:29:10 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 15:59:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Kicking off PyCon India 2011 Preparations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=R1gffgn62BOAQCqeZZ4H82nAcv0h7FABvcwik@mail.gmail.com>
	(Anand Balachandran Pillai's message of "Tue, 4 Jan 2011 14:55:13
	+0530")
References: <AANLkTimeqs-QT+hjq9RTa6XhfmjbdG3TBzqj-HMq7Q0w@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=R1gffgn62BOAQCqeZZ4H82nAcv0h7FABvcwik@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <87r5ctj72h.fsf@gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 04 2011, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:

[...]

> I think we should get the website for Pycon 2011 in order as one of
> the initial tasks and send out call for talk proposals by March
> 2011. This gives us ample time to select and review the talks rather
> than doing a rush-hour job like I had to do last year cuz we were late
> with the CFP.

[...]

Branding before the website since the website is going to be the public
face of the conference, all the logos, colours etc. should be
consistent. Lesson from last year.


-- 

From abpillai at gmail.com  Tue Jan  4 11:54:43 2011
From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 16:24:43 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Kicking off PyCon India 2011 Preparations
In-Reply-To: <87r5ctj72h.fsf@gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimeqs-QT+hjq9RTa6XhfmjbdG3TBzqj-HMq7Q0w@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=R1gffgn62BOAQCqeZZ4H82nAcv0h7FABvcwik@mail.gmail.com>
	<87r5ctj72h.fsf@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimwB4qrFk1nv7TPXeWn=VTCKB54fkzrm9z--oTZ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 04 2011, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > I think we should get the website for Pycon 2011 in order as one of
> > the initial tasks and send out call for talk proposals by March
> > 2011. This gives us ample time to select and review the talks rather
> > than doing a rush-hour job like I had to do last year cuz we were late
> > with the CFP.
>
> [...]
>
> Branding before the website since the website is going to be the public
> face of the conference, all the logos, colours etc. should be
> consistent. Lesson from last year.
>

 Righto. Forgot that lesson :)
 Branding... Website... CFP...in that order.


>
>
> --
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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue Jan  4 12:00:22 2011
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:30:22 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Kicking off PyCon India 2011 Preparations
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimwB4qrFk1nv7TPXeWn=VTCKB54fkzrm9z--oTZ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimeqs-QT+hjq9RTa6XhfmjbdG3TBzqj-HMq7Q0w@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTi=R1gffgn62BOAQCqeZZ4H82nAcv0h7FABvcwik@mail.gmail.com>
	<87r5ctj72h.fsf@gmail.com>
	<AANLkTimwB4qrFk1nv7TPXeWn=VTCKB54fkzrm9z--oTZ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1294138822.1823.178.camel@localhost>

On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 16:24 +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote:
> > Branding before the website since the website is going to be the
> public
> > face of the conference, all the logos, colours etc. should be
> > consistent. Lesson from last year.
> >
> 
>  Righto. Forgot that lesson :)
>  Branding... Website... CFP...in that order. 

forgive a n00b question - what is meant by branding?
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From noufal at gmail.com  Tue Jan  4 12:35:55 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:05:55 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Kicking off PyCon India 2011 Preparations
In-Reply-To: <1294138822.1823.178.camel@localhost> (Kenneth Gonsalves's
	message of "Tue, 04 Jan 2011 16:30:22 +0530")
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On Tue, Jan 04 2011, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:


[...]

> forgive a n00b question - what is meant by branding?

Logo, colours of the website (should be the same on brochures etc.) -
The "Look" of the conference. 

-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Tue Jan  4 12:39:02 2011
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 17:09:02 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Kicking off PyCon India 2011 Preparations
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On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 17:05 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > forgive a n00b question - what is meant by branding?
> 
> Logo, colours of the website (should be the same on brochures etc.) -
> The "Look" of the conference. 

ok
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From baiju.m.mail at gmail.com  Fri Jan  7 11:12:20 2011
From: baiju.m.mail at gmail.com (Baiju M)
Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:42:20 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Kicking off PyCon India 2011 Preparations
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On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 2:02 PM, kausikram krishnasayee
<kausikram at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear All,
> previously i had written to this mailing list saying that all the
> Engineering Colleges around had been in the middle of their exams and that
> we had little scope of progress in the last month and a half. The exams as
> of now are all over and all the colleges are back into a relaxed mood.
> Also,
> this is a good time to start off on work regarding the actual conference and
> hence this email, which is a a general call for volunteers to start work on
> PyCon India 2011.
> Our activities can be broadly classified into work at ground (setting up the
> venue getting wifi connectivity, arranging for food etc etc) and a set of
> related activities that can be performed on the internet/phone (sponsorship,
> website admins, speakers coordination etc)
> Following this email, two emails will be sent to this group calling for
> volunteers in each of these segments. we would encourage active
> participation from as many people as possible lets all join together and
> contribute to pycon india 2011.

I just created a wiki page to co-ordinate all draft works

http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2011

Free free to update this page and it's sub-pages.

Regards,
Baiju M

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 20:54:23 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 01:24:23 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2011 - Ground Team Activities
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinSk8_Li27--QKBrFS6og1pi2NadpYuYvmCm1zN@mail.gmail.com>
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On Tue, Jan 04 2011, kausikram krishnasayee wrote:

> These are a set of activities / tasks which need to be completed at Chennai.
> I am taking cue from last years venue requirements [from the wiki] and
> spawning this thread. after some initial discussions we should be moving the
> content into the pyconinida wiki. please add on if i had missed something.
> and please volunteer if you are from chennai :D

[...]

I will probably be attending PyCon in Atlanta this March so if there's
someone we want to invite to be our keynote speaker (like David G. last
year), I can speak to them. 

Another thing I can help out with is talking to sponsors in Bangalore.

-- 

From kausikram at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 12:35:06 2011
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:05:06 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2011 - Ground Team Activities
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>
> * Venue Requirement
>   Status: We have shortlisted a potential list of colleges that we can
> approach to host PyCon India 2010. before we zero in on a few colleges we
> need to take a look at a few things. namely:
>     ** What is the total number of participants we are expecting / will be
> comfortable with?
>     ** How many tracks should we be planning for?
>     ** Are we planning hackathons? if so what are the requirements for it?
>

Hi,
i was hoping that we have some active discussion on the above quoted bit.
what is the number of people we are going to be expecting. do we have to
think about accommodating more people than last year. or think about cutting
down on the numbers.


-- 
Kausikram Krishnasayee
Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.in | Blog:
blog.kausikram.in | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email:
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From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 13:10:49 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:40:49 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2011 - Ground Team Activities
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On Wed, Jan 12 2011, kausikram krishnasayee wrote:

>>
>> * Venue Requirement
>>   Status: We have shortlisted a potential list of colleges that we can
>> approach to host PyCon India 2010. before we zero in on a few colleges we
>> need to take a look at a few things. namely:
>>     ** What is the total number of participants we are expecting / will be
>> comfortable with?

Depends on the size of the venue. We can handle a large number I think
but we need an approximate size atleast a month before the event to plan
properly. Early bird etc. I think the price different should be
substantial (between early bird and late regs.)

>>     ** How many tracks should we be planning for?

I vote for one extreme track (similar to the PyCon in the US) which will
only have battle hardened talks from people who have been working on
projects in depth.


>>     ** Are we planning hackathons? if so what are the requirements for it?

(An) extra day(s) if necessary, reliable wifi, space and publicity. 

Another thing that occurs to me is paid tutorials. a day of multiple 3
hour tutorials on basic Python, Django etc. all the popular bits will be
useful to several people. They'll have to pay for them and we can pay
the presenters. 

One tutorial day, 1 day of pure conference, 1 day of conf + hackathon.



[...]


-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Wed Jan 12 13:22:38 2011
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:52:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2011 - Ground Team Activities
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On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 17:40 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> >>     ** Are we planning hackathons? if so what are the requirements
> for it?
> 
> (An) extra day(s) if necessary, reliable wifi, space and publicity. 
> 
> Another thing that occurs to me is paid tutorials. a day of multiple 3
> hour tutorials on basic Python, Django etc. all the popular bits will
> be
> useful to several people. They'll have to pay for them and we can pay
> the presenters. 
> 
> One tutorial day, 1 day of pure conference, 1 day of conf +
> hackathon. 

and do not forget society AGM
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From noufal at gmail.com  Wed Jan 12 13:38:35 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 18:08:35 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2011 - Ground Team Activities
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On Wed, Jan 12 2011, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:


[...]

> and do not forget society AGM

We don't need a day for that. Just a room and an hour or so like last year.

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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Jan 13 01:58:06 2011
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:28:06 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2011 - Ground Team Activities
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On Wed, 2011-01-12 at 18:08 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 12 2011, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> 
> 
> [...]
> 
> > and do not forget society AGM
> 
> We don't need a day for that. Just a room and an hour or so like last
> year. 

that is not what I meant - last year, for some reason, the society was
not mentioned anywhere on the site, and even the information about the
AGM was last minute stuff.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From noufal at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 07:17:34 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:47:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
Message-ID: <87fwsuitc1.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>


Greetings all,
        I just got a mail from a "reputable foreign company" telling me
that they're interested in sponsoring PyCon 2011 asking me for our
sponsorship information. They're allocating their budgets and want to
reserve some money for the conference here.

        I think this is our cue to get our act together and
"start". I've forwarded the email to Kausik.
        
        Let's get some ideas of overall expenses and budgets right away
so that we can get some ideas on how we want to do this. 

        Here are the things that will add to our expenses (from the last
2 years) in decreasing order of amount
        - Foreign delegates (approx 1.5L for someone from North America)
        - T-shirts
        - Food
        - A/V
        - Wifi infrastructure (let's outsource this to a professional
          this time)
        - Venue (if we're plannnig to go for a paid place)
        
        This year, we can stretch a little and maybe do print ads in
the appropriate magazines and newspapers. We might also be able to
arrange limited accommodation for people from outside the city where
it's conducted on a first come first serve basis. 

        So, let's get started! 

Thanks


-- 

From jaganadhg at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 07:26:56 2011
From: jaganadhg at gmail.com (JAGANADH G)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:56:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
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Hi All

I think if we put the Sponsorship notification before March we may be able
get some really big sponsors for the event .


-- 
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From ramdaz at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 07:31:36 2011
From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:01:36 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
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On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Greetings all,
>        I just got a mail from a "reputable foreign company" telling me
> that they're interested in sponsoring PyCon 2011 asking me for our
> sponsorship information. They're allocating their budgets and want to
> reserve some money for the conference here.
>
>        I think this is our cue to get our act together and
> "start". I've forwarded the email to Kausik.
>
>        Let's get some ideas of overall expenses and budgets right away
> so that we can get some ideas on how we want to do this.
>
>        Here are the things that will add to our expenses (from the last
> 2 years) in decreasing order of amount
>        - Foreign delegates (approx 1.5L for someone from North America)
>        - T-shirts
>        - Food
>        - A/V
>        - Wifi infrastructure (let's outsource this to a professional
>          this time)
>        - Venue (if we're plannnig to go for a paid place)
>
>        This year, we can stretch a little and maybe do print ads in
> the appropriate magazines and newspapers.


I'd suggest not spend much money on promotion and instead do these two
activities


For an event with some FOSS touch best would be barter...

I think some of the leading IT magazines will be interested in being a media
partner, which means you dont pay for advertisements. They will get a logo.
It may not be much, but this is what everyone basically does these days. The
magazine guys can be provided a table and chair to display their magazines.

Also if someone can take pains contact naukri.com and other job sites, and
ask them to send an e-mail inviting just about everyone who has shown Python
as a skillset, there were some 12k odd resumes if I remember right. We can
give the job site a logo on the site, banner T Shirt etc. If they can do
multiple mails as a co-sponsor, it would really add value...

Trust me this would give us  a very good coverage, more than any
advertisement in any daily newspaper...

A decent newspaper ad in Hindu (which's the leading daily in Chennai) will
cost you a bomb ( 1 L upwards). Instead please use that money to sponsor
some Python evangelism exercises or provide better food.





> We might also be able to
> arrange limited accommodation for people from outside the city where
> it's conducted on a first come first serve basis.
>
>        So, let's get started!
>
> Thanks
>
>
> --
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From vid at svaksha.com  Sat Jan 15 07:41:57 2011
From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?4KWlIOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyDgpaUg?=)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 06:41:57 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
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On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 06:31, Ramdas S <ramdaz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ? ? ? ?This year, we can stretch a little and maybe do print ads in
>> the appropriate magazines and newspapers.
>
> I'd suggest not spend much money on promotion and instead do these two
> activities

+1, a print ad (or radio/TV media ad) would be very expensive and not
worth the return on investment as your target market/audience is very
niche and different. Getting a media partnership in return for smaller
sops would be more advantageous budget-wise.

Regarding sponsorships, I'd like to know which wikipage should be used
-- can I use the one from last year or has that changed? -- is there
something more that needs to be added to the sponsorship wiki-page?


>> We might also be able to
>> arrange limited accommodation for people from outside the city where
>> it's conducted on a first come first serve basis.

If there are surplus funds, rather than spending on commercial media
advertisements, it would be more useful if subsidies were given in
terms of accommodation or travel reimbursements, etc..

</zero-paise worth>

-- 
Regards,
vid ? http://svaksha.com

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 07:45:10 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:15:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
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On Sat, Jan 15 2011, JAGANADH G wrote:

> Hi All
>
> I think if we put the Sponsorship notification before March we may be
> able get some really big sponsors for the event .

Sooner the better. Unless we have something *really* hampering us, we
needn't wait till March just to come up with a budget and a
notification. 

We need't have the website completely up. We can create PDFs of the
sponsorship information and send it out to these interested parties. 




-- 

From vid at svaksha.com  Sat Jan 15 07:53:01 2011
From: vid at svaksha.com (=?UTF-8?B?4KWlIOCkuOCljeCkteCkleCljeCktyDgpaUg?=)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 06:53:01 +0000
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On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 06:45, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 15 2011, JAGANADH G wrote:
>
>> Hi All
>>
>> I think if we put the Sponsorship notification before March we may be
>> able get some really big sponsors for the event .
>
> Sooner the better. Unless we have something *really* hampering us, we
> needn't wait till March just to come up with a budget and a
> notification.

That's right. Some companies start deliberating a year in advance on
which event to sponsor for their next year's marketing budget. Getting
a word in edge-wise early on helps ....note, its not a guarantee that
they will sponsor, but we can get the word out early.

-- 
Regards,
vid ? http://svaksha.com

From noufal at gmail.com  Sat Jan 15 08:09:28 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:39:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTik10QpUx53ihxbcU5vPRptcV2xH+w3QWw+wauXT@mail.gmail.com>
	(Ramdas S.'s message of "Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:01:36 +0530")
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This is a side issue and not central to the main thing which is planning
the budget. So, let's stop this here. 

On Sat, Jan 15 2011, Ramdas S wrote:


[...]

> I'd suggest not spend much money on promotion and instead do these two
> activities
>
>
> For an event with some FOSS touch best would be barter...
>
> I think some of the leading IT magazines will be interested in being a
> media partner, which means you dont pay for advertisements. They will
> get a logo.  It may not be much, but this is what everyone basically
> does these days. The magazine guys can be provided a table and chair
> to display their magazines.

That's possible. I was just scraping my brain for things that might cost
money. 

> Also if someone can take pains contact naukri.com and other job sites,
> and ask them to send an e-mail inviting just about everyone who has
> shown Python as a skillset, there were some 12k odd resumes if I
> remember right. We can give the job site a logo on the site, banner T
> Shirt etc. If they can do multiple mails as a co-sponsor, it would
> really add value...

Are you serious about this? The quality of people on Naukri is, in my
experience, very poor and not the kind of crowd I want to spend time
attracting to what I think (or want to think) is a "hacker" event. 

I don't want to do a "if you have a resume on Naukri, don't come" but I
certainly wouldn't want channel publicity through Naukri. Their audience
is just not the kind of people that'd make for a good conference. 

I'd much prefer that the event gets posted on /. or HN and the crowd
there becomes aware of it rather than on Naukri, monster etc.

> Trust me this would give us a very good coverage, more than any
> advertisement in any daily newspaper...

Perhaps but more important than quantity of coverage is the audience we
reach out to. The Naukri idea gets a -1 from me personally. 


[...]


-- 

From sree at mahiti.org  Mon Jan 17 05:08:05 2011
From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:38:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
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On 15 January 2011 11:47, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings all,
> ? ? ? ?I just got a mail from a "reputable foreign company" telling me
> that they're interested in sponsoring PyCon 2011 asking me for our
> sponsorship information. They're allocating their budgets and want to
> reserve some money for the conference here.
>
> ? ? ? ?I think this is our cue to get our act together and
> "start". I've forwarded the email to Kausik.
>
> ? ? ? ?Let's get some ideas of overall expenses and budgets right away
> so that we can get some ideas on how we want to do this.
>
> ? ? ? ?Here are the things that will add to our expenses (from the last
> 2 years) in decreasing order of amount
> ? ? ? ?- Foreign delegates (approx 1.5L for someone from North America)

Hi, i feel if we are not getting PF or some one else to share this,
then we should not do this.
If we are able to raise this much, then I suggest that we spend it on
more local impact programs.

- sree

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Mon Jan 17 06:21:48 2011
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:51:48 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
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On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:38 +0530, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote:
> Hi, i feel if we are not getting PF or some one else to share this,
> then we should not do this.
> If we are able to raise this much, then I suggest that we spend it on
> more local impact programs. 

btw, what happened to the scheme of using some the surplus from last
time to give bounties - this could also be tied into the marketing
effort.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 07:50:44 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:20:44 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimWv9nVhx9zYsSoBL4QEWH3k=Tjv435afxdr-ma@mail.gmail.com>
	(Sreekanth S. Rameshaiah's message of "Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:38:05
	+0530")
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On Mon, Jan 17 2011, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote:


[...]

> Hi, i feel if we are not getting PF or some one else to share this,
> then we should not do this.  If we are able to raise this much, then I
> suggest that we spend it on more local impact programs.

[...]

I'm not sure. PyCon is *the* main thing and I think, atleast for now, we
should focus on making that affordable and world class. Once that
happens, we can start smaller things that will have more local impact. 


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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 08:02:42 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 12:32:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
In-Reply-To: <87fwsuitc1.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> (Noufal Ibrahim's message of
	"Sat, 15 Jan 2011 11:47:34 +0530")
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On Sat, Jan 15 2011, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:


[...]

>         Let's get some ideas of overall expenses and budgets right
> away so that we can get some ideas on how we want to do this.

[...]

While the discussions going on here are beneficial, I think we're
missing the point. We need to come up with some numbers for the
potential sponsor. 



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From kausikram at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 09:20:49 2011
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:50:49 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
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Sorry guys,
had been travelling the weekend and could not start off on this thread
earlier.

So here are the possible numbers we are looking at.

Event Ground Cost:
Good Lunch at 90 - 100 rs per plate for 600 people on both days (an order of
600 pax can be servered for 700 people) = 600 * 100 * 2 = 1,20,000/-
(Vegetarian)
Tea, Coffee, etc for the two days = 40, 000 /-
Videography, Mics, projectors etc = 40,000 /- (worst case scenario, we can
avail these facilities inside campus if they have them)
T Shirts at 110 rs * 600 = 66,000 /- (again this is an aprox number and can
swing on either side by a few thousands)
Banners, Badges, and other Branding Material = 15,000 /-

all put together we will require around 2,90,000 ~ 3,00,000 INR. to run a
barebone event with no venue cost. any more capital that we raise can go
towards better shwag kits and such.
ideally we should look at 3 tiers
1 * 2.5 lakhs - 3 lakhs from the main sponsor ( 5000 - 6000 USD )
2 * 1 lakh from the silver sponsors ( 2000 USD)
4 * 30,000 - 50,000 from the third tier (1.2 lakhs - 2 lakhs)

this will raise a capital of around  4.7 to 6 lakhs. with such a capital we
can run a fabulous event, consider reducing event registration fee, start
new initiatives and think about building a corpus for the association (if we
need to).

how do the numbers sound,

cheers,
kausik


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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 09:51:53 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 14:21:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=YbRPPL_ZmdhpS9fwme+-_cPG4Wsa2OMriuj-h@mail.gmail.com>
	(kausikram krishnasayee's message of "Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:50:49
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On Mon, Jan 17 2011, kausikram krishnasayee wrote:


[...]

> Event Ground Cost:
> Good Lunch at 90 - 100 rs per plate for 600 people on both days (an order of
> 600 pax can be servered for 700 people) = 600 * 100 * 2 = 1,20,000/-
> (Vegetarian)
> Tea, Coffee, etc for the two days = 40, 000 /-
> Videography, Mics, projectors etc = 40,000 /- (worst case scenario, we can
> avail these facilities inside campus if they have them)

True. We will still need professional videographers and possibly their
own audio equipment if it'll improve the recording quality. MSRIT had
good audio facilities but the poor audio on some of the DVDs was
attributed to "bad facilities" by the videographer since we didn't use
his gear. 

> T Shirts at 110 rs * 600 = 66,000 /- (again this is an aprox number and can
> swing on either side by a few thousands)
> Banners, Badges, and other Branding Material = 15,000 /-

40k for Tea/Coffee? Isn't that rather high? 

You've missed wifi. We need to get it done professionally this
time. It's annoying when people get a burst of strong signal and the
first thing they do is to tweet about how the wifi sucks.

You've also missed out foreign delegates. Since we had one last year, I
think people will expect one this year and it's a good boost for the
community in general. Bringing and accomodating one person will cost
around 1.5L. It will be slightly cheaper if we're considering someone
from Europe.

Also, you've not factored in the registration costs. We can use that
offset the components that will change based on number of participants
(e.g. food, swag etc.)

> all put together we will require around 2,90,000 ~ 3,00,000 INR. to
> run a barebone event with no venue cost. any more capital that we
> raise can go towards better shwag kits and such.  ideally we should
> look at 3 tiers
>
> 1 * 2.5 lakhs - 3 lakhs from the main sponsor ( 5000 - 6000 USD )
> 2 * 1 lakh from the silver sponsors ( 2000 USD)
> 4 * 30,000 - 50,000 from the third tier (1.2 lakhs - 2 lakhs)

This sounds okay I think. Just factor in the wifi. I haven't contacted
anyone about it so I don't have numbers. The rest of what you've said
sounds reasonable to me.

> this will raise a capital of around 4.7 to 6 lakhs. with such a
> capital we can run a fabulous event, consider reducing event
> registration fee, start new initiatives and think about building a
> corpus for the association (if we need to).

There's some leftover money from last year which we can use too I think
but that's only emergency cushioning.

[...]


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From kausikram at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 10:46:09 2011
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:16:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
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References: <87fwsuitc1.fsf@nibrahim.net.in> <87ipxonhbh.fsf@gmail.com>
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>
> You've missed wifi. We need to get it done professionally this
> time. It's annoying when people get a burst of strong signal and the
> first thing they do is to tweet about how the wifi sucks.
>
Oops my bad. most of the telephone operators give you ad hoc connection at
512kbps to 2 Mbps for somewhere around 20 - 30 k. i will get the exact
numbers  by the end of the week. but they will only give you one lead
setting up the routers would be our onus trying to figure out if someone can
do that for us a) for free and good will, b) for monies.


> You've also missed out foreign delegates. Since we had one last year, I
> think people will expect one this year and it's a good boost for the
> community in general. Bringing and accomodating one person will cost
> around 1.5L. It will be slightly cheaper if we're considering someone
> from Europe.
>
yeah i did not factor in that cost for a bear bone event, but yes i think
1.5 lakhs should be a nice cap on that.

Also, you've not factored in the registration costs. We can use that
> offset the components that will change based on number of participants
> (e.g. food, swag etc.)

did not factor in these revenues as i wanted to ideally solve all event
costs with sponsorships.that way the registration revenue can be spent on
giving of a heavier swag kit.

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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jan 17 10:54:49 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 15:24:49 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Sponsorships for 2011
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On Mon, Jan 17 2011, kausikram krishnasayee wrote:

>>
>> You've missed wifi. We need to get it done professionally this
>> time. It's annoying when people get a burst of strong signal and the
>> first thing they do is to tweet about how the wifi sucks.
>>
> Oops my bad. most of the telephone operators give you ad hoc connection at
> 512kbps to 2 Mbps for somewhere around 20 - 30 k. i will get the exact
> numbers  by the end of the week. but they will only give you one lead
> setting up the routers would be our onus trying to figure out if someone can
> do that for us a) for free and good will, b) for monies.

If we can get someone reliable to set it up for decent monies, it would
be better. It's an important part of the infrastructure and having
someone paid to "take care of it" is a good thing IMO.

However, 20-30k sounds reasonable (maybe we can offset it a little using
some advertising - wifi sponsored by FooTel etc.). Add that to the
cost. 

>> You've also missed out foreign delegates. Since we had one last year, I
>> think people will expect one this year and it's a good boost for the
>> community in general. Bringing and accomodating one person will cost
>> around 1.5L. It will be slightly cheaper if we're considering someone
>> from Europe.
>>
> yeah i did not factor in that cost for a bear bone event, but yes i think
> 1.5 lakhs should be a nice cap on that.

It's the 3rd time we're conducting it so it's not really barebones
anymore. I think we can surely get one. 

> Also, you've not factored in the registration costs. We can use that
>> offset the components that will change based on number of participants
>> (e.g. food, swag etc.)
>
> did not factor in these revenues as i wanted to ideally solve all
> event costs with sponsorships.that way the registration revenue can be
> spent on giving of a heavier swag kit.

Possible. But it's nice for accounting if the registration fees offset
all the variable expenses so that it scales well. 

Anyway, your numbers look fine to me. Unless someone else points out
something we've missed, I think we can use these to create a simple
sponsorship brochure and send it out to the company. 

-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Fri Jan 21 06:39:04 2011
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:09:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
Message-ID: <1295588344.6486.35.camel@localhost>

hi,

can this be done - I am talking to a company and they are doing their
budget for the coming year - if we take too much time the budget may not
be available for us.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From noufal at gmail.com  Sun Jan 23 11:51:25 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:21:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
In-Reply-To: <1295588344.6486.35.camel@localhost> (Kenneth Gonsalves's message
	of "Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:09:04 +0530")
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On Fri, Jan 21 2011, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

> hi,
>
> can this be done - I am talking to a company and they are doing their
> budget for the coming year - if we take too much time the budget may
> not be available for us.

Kausik,
        Do you have anything we can use? I was pinged again recently as
well. 

Thanks.

-- 

From kausikram at gmail.com  Sun Jan 23 16:39:10 2011
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:09:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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>
> Kausik,
>        Do you have anything we can use? I was pinged again recently as
> well.

Sorry. was out of net connectivity the last few days. should be giving you a
pdf by end of day. or tomorrow morning at the earliest.

cheers,
kausik
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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 12:23:59 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:53:59 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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	(kausikram krishnasayee's message of "Sun, 23 Jan 2011 21:09:10
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Any updates Kousik? We can't turn off potential sponsors. 

On Sun, Jan 23 2011, kausikram krishnasayee wrote:

>>
>> Kausik,
>>        Do you have anything we can use? I was pinged again recently as
>> well.
>
> Sorry. was out of net connectivity the last few days. should be giving you a
> pdf by end of day. or tomorrow morning at the earliest.
>
> cheers,
> kausik

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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Jan 27 12:31:40 2011
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:01:40 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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nothing seems to be happening. All we need to do is finalise the amounts
for the various types of sponsors - maybe same as last year or 1.5 times
or double it? I do not see why this is taking so long.

On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 16:53 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> Any updates Kousik? We can't turn off potential sponsors. 
> 
> On Sun, Jan 23 2011, kausikram krishnasayee wrote:
> 
> >>
> >> Kausik,
> >>        Do you have anything we can use? I was pinged again recently as
> >> well.
> >
> > Sorry. was out of net connectivity the last few days. should be giving you a
> > pdf by end of day. or tomorrow morning at the earliest.
> >
> > cheers,
> > kausik
> 


-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 13:08:09 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:38:09 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
In-Reply-To: <1296127900.6486.207.camel@localhost> (Kenneth Gonsalves's
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On Thu, Jan 27 2011, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

> nothing seems to be happening. All we need to do is finalise the
> amounts for the various types of sponsors
[...]

And create a simple document which we can send to the potential
sponsors. 

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From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Thu Jan 27 13:27:11 2011
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:57:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 17:38 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 27 2011, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
> 
> > nothing seems to be happening. All we need to do is finalise the
> > amounts for the various types of sponsors
> [...]
> 
> And create a simple document which we can send to the potential
> sponsors. 
> 
> 

we can reuse last years doc.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From baiju.m.mail at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 13:29:11 2011
From: baiju.m.mail at gmail.com (Baiju M)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:59:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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	<87fwsea8ts.fsf@gmail.com> <1296127900.6486.207.camel@localhost>
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On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:57 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves <lawgon at au-kbc.org> wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 17:38 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 27 2011, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:
>>
>> > nothing seems to be happening. All we need to do is finalise the
>> > amounts for the various types of sponsors
>> [...]
>>
>> And create a simple document which we can send to the potential
>> sponsors.
>>
>>
>
> we can reuse last years doc.

This one ?
http://wiki.python.org/moin/PyConIndia2010/SponsorShipTiers

--
Baiju M

From kausikram at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 17:30:13 2011
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:00:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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>
> >> > nothing seems to be happening. All we need to do is finalise the
> >> > amounts for the various types of sponsors
>
am sorry have fallen violently sick the last couple of days and the weather
isnt helping one bit. yeah i think the give aways and collaterals are much
the same as last year. we need to prettify it and create a nice pdf.

/kausik
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From noufal at gmail.com  Thu Jan 27 18:41:27 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:11:27 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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On Thu, Jan 27 2011, kausikram krishnasayee wrote:

>>
>> >> > nothing seems to be happening. All we need to do is finalise the
>> >> > amounts for the various types of sponsors
>>
> am sorry have fallen violently sick the last couple of days and the
> weather isnt helping one bit.

Get well soon Kausik.


> Yeah i think the give aways and collaterals are much the same as last
> year. we need to prettify it and create a nice pdf.

[...]

It needs to be more "specific". People ask for/assume more some times. 

I don't think prettification is necessary. I'll make a simple one and
send it out tomorrow morning. If we're fine with that, we can use that
to start. This is only preliminary.





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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 08:57:08 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:27:08 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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On Thu, Jan 27 2011, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:

[...]

> It needs to be more "specific". People ask for/assume more some times. 
>
> I don't think prettification is necessary. I'll make a simple one and
> send it out tomorrow morning. If we're fine with that, we can use that
> to start. This is only preliminary.

Take a look http://nibrahim.net.in/prospectus.pdf. It's raw LaTeX so no
frills but I think it contains all the information that's necessary. I
need the venue and other information to fill in (or shall we just keep
that away for now?)

If this is fine, I'll start using it to contact people who are
interested in sponsoring the event. As for actual budgetary
calculations, we'll wing it. 

Concerns?
-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Mon Jan 31 09:14:04 2011
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:44:04 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 13:27 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> but I think it contains all the information that's necessary

the only information I need is the amounts - if the consensus is for
3-1-.5 L, let us confirm that first. 
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From kausikram at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 09:20:39 2011
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:50:39 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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>
> Take a look http://nibrahim.net.in/prospectus.pdf. It's raw LaTeX so no
> frills but I think it contains all the information that's necessary. I
> need the venue and other information to fill in (or shall we just keep
> that away for now?)
>
Venue need not be there. but i would suggest we add a USD equivalent of it
at a conversion rate of INR 40. and put it there along with the INR values.

-- 
Kausikram Krishnasayee
Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.in | Blog:
blog.kausikram.in | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email:
kausikram at gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490
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From kausikram at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 09:21:26 2011
From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:51:26 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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>
> the only information I need is the amounts - if the consensus is for
> 3-1-.5 L, let us confirm that first.
>
i think that would work well we should go with these numbers.

-- 
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Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.in | Blog:
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From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 09:27:25 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:57:25 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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On Mon, Jan 31 2011, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 27 2011, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> It needs to be more "specific". People ask for/assume more some times. 
>>
>> I don't think prettification is necessary. I'll make a simple one and
>> send it out tomorrow morning. If we're fine with that, we can use that
>> to start. This is only preliminary.
>
> Take a look http://nibrahim.net.in/prospectus.pdf. It's raw LaTeX so no
> frills but I think it contains all the information that's necessary. I
> need the venue and other information to fill in (or shall we just keep
> that away for now?)
>
> If this is fine, I'll start using it to contact people who are
> interested in sponsoring the event. As for actual budgetary
> calculations, we'll wing it. 
>
> Concerns?

If no one has any objections by the end of the day, I think we can go
ahead and use this. Kenneth, you mentioned a company that was a
potential sponsor. You might be able to use this with them. 


-- 

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 10:16:28 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:46:28 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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	+0530")
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On Mon, Jan 31 2011, kausikram krishnasayee wrote:


[...]


> Venue need not be there. but i would suggest we add a USD equivalent of it
> at a conversion rate of INR 40. and put it there along with the INR values.

I've updated the document. I've used 46 USD as the conversion rate (from
xe.com) and rounded off the numbers a little. Take a look.

-- 

From anandology at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 10:22:13 2011
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 14:52:13 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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2011/1/31 Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Jan 27 2011, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> It needs to be more "specific". People ask for/assume more some times.
>>
>> I don't think prettification is necessary. I'll make a simple one and
>> send it out tomorrow morning. If we're fine with that, we can use that
>> to start. This is only preliminary.
>
> Take a look http://nibrahim.net.in/prospectus.pdf. It's raw LaTeX so no
> frills but I think it contains all the information that's necessary. I
> need the venue and other information to fill in (or shall we just keep
> that away for now?)
>
> If this is fine, I'll start using it to contact people who are
> interested in sponsoring the event. As for actual budgetary
> calculations, we'll wing it.
>
> Concerns?

Can you use contact at in.pycon.org as email instead of noufal at gmail.com?

Anand

From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 11:02:10 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:32:10 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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On Mon, Jan 31 2011, Anand Chitipothu wrote:

[...]

>> Concerns?
>
> Can you use contact at in.pycon.org as email instead of noufal at gmail.com?

[...]

Good point. I've updated it. 


-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Mon Jan 31 11:47:56 2011
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:17:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 13:57 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > If this is fine, I'll start using it to contact people who are
> > interested in sponsoring the event. As for actual budgetary
> > calculations, we'll wing it. 
> >
> > Concerns?
> 
> If no one has any objections by the end of the day, I think we can go
> ahead and use this. Kenneth, you mentioned a company that was a
> potential sponsor. You might be able to use this with them. 

they are not really bothered about brochures - they just want to know
'how much'. 
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 12:25:05 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:55:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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	message of "Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:17:56 +0530")
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On Mon, Jan 31 2011, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

> On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 13:57 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> > If this is fine, I'll start using it to contact people who are
>> > interested in sponsoring the event. As for actual budgetary
>> > calculations, we'll wing it. 
>> >
>> > Concerns?
>> 
>> If no one has any objections by the end of the day, I think we can go
>> ahead and use this. Kenneth, you mentioned a company that was a
>> potential sponsor. You might be able to use this with them. 
>
> they are not really bothered about brochures - they just want to know
> 'how much'. 

Well, you already have the amounts then. I thought it might be a good
idea to give them a "document" 


-- 

From lawgon at au-kbc.org  Mon Jan 31 12:33:56 2011
From: lawgon at au-kbc.org (Kenneth Gonsalves)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:03:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 16:55 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
> > they are not really bothered about brochures - they just want to
> know
> > 'how much'. 
> 
> Well, you already have the amounts then. I thought it might be a good
> idea to give them a "document" 

I have to wait for the end of the day and official word that the amounts
are confirmed. At one of our fossconfs, platinum was put at 1 L, and
later the group decided to change it to 2 L - unfortunately the guy who
was doing the brochure did not check his mail and sent the brochures to
the parties (who were prepared to pay 2L) and they wound up signing for
1L. So am a bit cautious.
-- 
regards
Kenneth Gonsalves


From noufal at gmail.com  Mon Jan 31 12:44:07 2011
From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:14:07 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] finalising the sponsorship amounts
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On Mon, Jan 31 2011, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote:

> On Mon, 2011-01-31 at 16:55 +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote:
>> > they are not really bothered about brochures - they just want to
>> know
>> > 'how much'. 
>> 
>> Well, you already have the amounts then. I thought it might be a good
>> idea to give them a "document" 
>
> I have to wait for the end of the day and official word that the amounts
> are confirmed. At one of our fossconfs, platinum was put at 1 L, and
> later the group decided to change it to 2 L - unfortunately the guy who
> was doing the brochure did not check his mail and sent the brochures to
> the parties (who were prepared to pay 2L) and they wound up signing for
> 1L. So am a bit cautious.

Makes sense. Our amounts and brochure are still in beta. At the end of
the day, we'll carve them in stone and make it official. 
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