From navin.kabra at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 12:41:52 2012 From: navin.kabra at gmail.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 17:11:52 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Sponsorships Guidelines In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi all, For PyCon 2012, what needs to be changed as far as sponsorships are concerned? Dhananjay, Noufal, (and of course others) can you please post your thoughts. Just for reference, here is the sponsorship kit for RubyConf 2012: http://rubyconfindia.org/2012/sponsorshipkit.pdf (I am not saying we need to follow this - posting just for reference.) On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 5:35 PM, Navin Kabra wrote: > Hi All, > > Do we want to make any changes to the way we do sponsorships for PyCon? I > believe Dhananjay and Noufal have already indicated that they have a bunch > of suggested changes in mind - can you please (re-)post your thoughts and > that can serve as the starting point for the discussion. Others please jump > in your thoughts. > > navin. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From navin at smriti.com Tue Mar 6 12:45:49 2012 From: navin at smriti.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 17:15:49 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi All, The Pune "local" team is meeting early next week to discuss details of PyCon 2012, the most important agenda item being Venue finalization. We will keep this mailing list updated with the outcome of our discussions. If anyone is interested in being part of the "local" organizing team for PyCon 2012, and isn't already on the PyCon Organizers mailing list, please get in touch with me. On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:55 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > >> >> >> On 9 January 2012 18:49, Abdul Muneer wrote: >> >>> The biggest drawback is the old school presentation as you mentioned. >>> This is not on par with the presentations we see on US pycon etc. >>> >>> I guess being free may not be a big advantage given the sponsors we have >>> (those who worked on the sponsorship are more qualified to say abt it than >>> me). >>> The location is fine, but the facility should be better. >>> >> >> I would still vouch for free/ subsidised venue. Lets explore other >> facilities in central Pune. >> Regards, >> > > Here's the issue. At least amongst the facilities we reviewed last year, > this was perhaps the best last year. Others were larger but older or newer > but smaller. There were nicer and larger facilities but they were really > waaaay out of town (we would need to hire buses to take people to and fro). > > Not meaning to suggest that we should not explore a few more facilities > this year, but I wouldn't hold my breath much. I think it will boil down to > within central pune or way far out if one wants "newer" facilities. There > just aren't too many "new" places which can seat 700 in an auditorium, and > have more capacity for 1-2 additional tracks and classrooms etc. I think it > will be important to understand our apetite for out of town venues. > > Dhananjay > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 14:08:33 2012 From: deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com (Jaidev Deshpande) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 18:38:33 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi > If anyone is interested in being part of the "local" organizing team for > PyCon 2012, and isn't already on the PyCon Organizers mailing list, please > get in touch with me. I'd like to be a part of the team, but as a volunteer. Can I come for the meeting? From noufal at gmail.com Tue Mar 6 17:46:08 2012 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 08:46:08 -0800 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Sponsorships Guidelines In-Reply-To: (Navin Kabra's message of "Tue, 6 Mar 2012 17:11:52 +0530") References:

Message-ID: <871up5y8xb.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Navin Kabra writes: > Hi all, > For PyCon 2012, what needs to be changed as far as sponsorships are > concerned? > > Dhananjay, Noufal, (and of course others) can you please post your thoughts. > > Just for reference, here is the sponsorship kit for RubyConf 2012: > http://rubyconfindia.org/2012/sponsorshipkit.pdf (I am not saying we need > to follow this - posting just for reference.) [...] I'll send a more detailed reply later but one thing that occurs to me is that we need to have a separate category or perhaps different guidelines for foreign sponsors. Perhaps "handle travel and accomodation for keynote speaker" can be a category for them. Another thing that occurs to me is to go the HasGeek route and just price different things (booth, lanyards, flyers etc.) and sponsors can pick and choose. We take the total amount and then put them in a category (gold, silver etc.) accordingly. Like I said, I need to think about this a little more but these are two ideas that have been in my head for a while now. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in Of course I can keep secrets. It's the people I tell them to that can't keep them. -Anthony Haden-Guest From noufal at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 00:07:43 2012 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 15:07:43 -0800 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: (Navin Kabra's message of "Tue, 6 Mar 2012 17:15:49 +0530") References:

Message-ID: <87vcmhwcow.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Navin Kabra writes: > Hi All, The Pune "local" team is meeting early next week to discuss > details of PyCon 2012, the most important agenda item being Venue > finalization. We will keep this mailing list updated with the outcome > of our discussions. > > If anyone is interested in being part of the "local" organizing team > for PyCon 2012, and isn't already on the PyCon Organizers mailing > list, please get in touch with me. [...] Is there a separate mailing list for discussion or are you going to use this one itself? I think using this one is better since all the people who are interested can stay upto date (even though they're not in Pune) and the ones who aren't can unsubscribe or ignore. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in Parting is such sweet sorrow. -William Shakespeare From navin at smriti.com Wed Mar 7 00:37:58 2012 From: navin at smriti.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 05:07:58 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: <87vcmhwcow.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References:

<87vcmhwcow.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:37 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Is there a separate mailing list for discussion or are you going to use > this one itself? I think using this one is better since all the people > who are interested can stay upto date (even though they're not in > Pune) and the ones who aren't can unsubscribe or ignore. There is a separate mailing list for "local" organizers which is only used for co-ordinating local meetings. This usually contains exchanges of the form: "Does Monday 7pm work for everyone?" "I can make it by 8pm" etc. Anything of significance will be discussed on the main inpycon mailing list. navin. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 01:04:11 2012 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2012 16:04:11 -0800 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: (Navin Kabra's message of "Wed, 7 Mar 2012 05:07:58 +0530") References:

<87vcmhwcow.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <87obs9wa2s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Navin Kabra writes: [...] > There is a separate mailing list for "local" organizers which is only > used for co-ordinating local meetings. This usually contains exchanges > of the form: "Does Monday 7pm work for everyone?" "I can make it by > 8pm" etc. > > Anything of significance will be discussed on the main inpycon mailing > list. [...] I'd recommend using the main list for everything. "Of significance" will vary over time, discussions will start up from other threads etc and things will fragment. One of the reasons I tried very hard to keep *all* PyCon related stuff off BangPypers and in inpycon even for the Bangalore events. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in Everyone writes on the walls except me. -Said to be graffiti seen in Pompeii From abpillai at gmail.com Wed Mar 7 14:47:10 2012 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 19:17:10 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: <87obs9wa2s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References:

<87vcmhwcow.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87obs9wa2s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Navin Kabra writes: > > [...] > > > There is a separate mailing list for "local" organizers which is only > > used for co-ordinating local meetings. This usually contains exchanges > > of the form: "Does Monday 7pm work for everyone?" "I can make it by > > 8pm" etc. > > > > Anything of significance will be discussed on the main inpycon mailing > > list. > > [...] > > I'd recommend using the main list for everything. > > "Of significance" will vary over time, discussions will start up from > other threads etc and things will fragment. One of the reasons I tried > very hard to keep *all* PyCon related stuff off BangPypers and in > inpycon even for the Bangalore events. > +1. We have had this discussion last year already in another form. The approach which seem to work finally for all use cases seems to be that of put it all in public and I favor it. Even if it involves trivial messages such as availability for a meeting on a specific day, you can put it in this list. That lets this list have a history of all email transactions that leads up to the Pycon which is its use-case anyway. > > > > > -- > ~noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > > Everyone writes on the walls except me. -Said to be graffiti seen in > Pompeii > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > Thanks, -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The list of people I'm planning to approach (in roughly decreasing order of preference are). - Armin R. : Flask - David Beazley : SWIG, PLY - Guido van Rossum : Python (although I remember him saying that he doesn't want to travel) - Steve Holden : PSF Chairman - Jacob Kaplan Moss : Django - Michael Foord : Unittest2, Mock, Iron Python - Barry Warsaw : Second in command, core libs, mailman - Holger Krekel : py.test, execnet, tox, pypy infrastructure. - James Tauber : Pinax, Eldarion - Zed Shaw : Lots of stuff. Any other suggestions who I can approach are welcome. I'm trying to get people who speak well and who have done some work. The flight costs are lesser if they're from Europe or, I think, Australia. Thanks! -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in Everyone writes on the walls except me. -Said to be graffiti seen in Pompeii From steve at holdenweb.com Fri Mar 9 20:14:28 2012 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 11:14:28 -0800 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: <87ty1xssa6.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87ty1xssa6.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <8DC16FED-3A11-46DF-B30C-6400A1C15402@holdenweb.com> You might also consider: Ned Batchelder, Alex Gaynor ... S On Mar 9, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Hello everyone, > I apologise for the rather late email. I'm going to go to the > PyCon in Santa Clara today and was planning to speak to a few people > about being keynote speakers for PyCon India. Nothing concrete and not a > complete invitiation but just to open a thread so that I can follow up > when I'm back in B'lore. > > The list of people I'm planning to approach (in roughly > decreasing order of preference are). > > - Armin R. : Flask > - David Beazley : SWIG, PLY > - Guido van Rossum : Python (although I remember him saying that he > doesn't want to travel) > - Steve Holden : PSF Chairman > - Jacob Kaplan Moss : Django > - Michael Foord : Unittest2, Mock, Iron Python > - Barry Warsaw : Second in command, core libs, mailman > - Holger Krekel : py.test, execnet, tox, pypy infrastructure. > - James Tauber : Pinax, Eldarion > - Zed Shaw : Lots of stuff. > > Any other suggestions who I can approach are welcome. I'm trying > to get people who speak well and who have done some work. The flight > costs are lesser if they're from Europe or, I think, Australia. > > Thanks! > > > > -- > ~noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > > Everyone writes on the walls except me. -Said to be graffiti seen in Pompeii > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ From dhruvbaldawa at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 16:45:50 2012 From: dhruvbaldawa at gmail.com (Dhruv Baldawa) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 07:45:50 -0800 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers Message-ID: Also, Alex Martelli, "?ber Tech Lead" for Google and also has written couple of books on Python. Yesterday, he also gave a talk on "Permission or Forgiveness ?". On Mar 9, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Hello everyone, > I apologise for the rather late email. I'm going to go to the > PyCon in Santa Clara today and was planning to speak to a few people > about being keynote speakers for PyCon India. Nothing concrete and not a > complete invitiation but just to open a thread so that I can follow up > when I'm back in B'lore. > > The list of people I'm planning to approach (in roughly > decreasing order of preference are). > > - Armin R. : Flask > - David Beazley : SWIG, PLY > - Guido van Rossum : Python (although I remember him saying that he > doesn't want to travel) > - Steve Holden : PSF Chairman > - Jacob Kaplan Moss : Django > - Michael Foord : Unittest2, Mock, Iron Python > - Barry Warsaw : Second in command, core libs, mailman > - Holger Krekel : py.test, execnet, tox, pypy infrastructure. > - James Tauber : Pinax, Eldarion > - Zed Shaw : Lots of stuff. > > Any other suggestions who I can approach are welcome. I'm trying > to get people who speak well and who have done some work. The flight > costs are lesser if they're from Europe or, I think, Australia. > > Thanks! > > > > -- > ~noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > > Everyone writes on the walls except me. -Said to be graffiti seen in > Pompeii > -- Dhruv Baldawa (http://www.dhruvb.com) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From naikvin at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 19:06:23 2012 From: naikvin at gmail.com (Vineet Naik) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:36:23 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wesley Chun can also be considered. I am totally enjoying reading his book "Core Python Programming" [http://www.amazon.com/Core-Python-Programming-Wesley-Chun/dp/0132269937] Here is his talk from EuroPython on Understanding Python's Memory Model, Mutability, and Methods [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHFCFJSPWrI] Thanks, Vineet On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Dhruv Baldawa wrote: > Also, Alex Martelli,?"?ber Tech Lead" for Google and also has written couple > of books on Python. Yesterday, he also gave a talk on "Permission or > Forgiveness ?". > > > On Mar 9, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> ? ? ? ?I apologise for the rather late email. I'm going to go to the >> PyCon in Santa Clara today and was planning to speak to a few people >> about being keynote speakers for PyCon India. Nothing concrete and not a >> complete invitiation but just to open a thread so that I can follow up >> when I'm back in B'lore. >> >> ? ? ? ?The list of people I'm planning to approach (in roughly >> decreasing order of preference are). >> >> ?- Armin R. : Flask >> ?- David Beazley : SWIG, PLY >> ?- Guido van Rossum : Python (although I remember him saying that he >> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?doesn't want to travel) >> ?- Steve Holden : PSF Chairman >> ?- Jacob Kaplan Moss : Django >> ?- Michael Foord : Unittest2, Mock, Iron Python >> ?- Barry Warsaw : Second in command, core libs, mailman >> ?- Holger Krekel : py.test, execnet, tox, pypy infrastructure. >> ?- James Tauber : Pinax, Eldarion >> ?- Zed Shaw : Lots of stuff. >> >> ? ? ? ?Any other suggestions who I can approach are welcome. I'm trying >> to get people who speak well and who have done some work. The flight >> costs are lesser if they're from Europe or, I think, Australia. >> >> Thanks! >> >> >> >> -- >> ~noufal >> http://nibrahim.net.in >> >> Everyone writes on the walls except me. -Said to be graffiti seen in >> Pompeii > > > -- > Dhruv Baldawa > (http://www.dhruvb.com) > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > From noufal at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 19:28:56 2012 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 10:28:56 -0800 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: (Vineet Naik's message of "Sat, 10 Mar 2012 23:36:23 +0530") References: Message-ID: <87sjhgpaxj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Vineet Naik writes: > Wesley Chun can also be considered. I am totally enjoying reading his > book "Core Python Programming" > [http://www.amazon.com/Core-Python-Programming-Wesley-Chun/dp/0132269937] Yeah. I think so too. I'm not so sure about Alex. His talks *can* be too abstract and, atleast I have felt that they lack the "pick me up" that makes a good keynote. In any case, Ned Batchelder and Dave Beazley probably will not be able to come. I'm going to continue stalking people today. [...] -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in If Roosevelt were alive, he'd turn over in his grave. -Samuel Goldwyn From naikvin at gmail.com Sat Mar 10 19:41:16 2012 From: naikvin at gmail.com (Vineet Naik) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:11:16 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: <87sjhgpaxj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87sjhgpaxj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: cool. All the best :-) On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Vineet Naik writes: > >> Wesley Chun can also be considered. I am totally enjoying reading his >> book "Core Python Programming" >> [http://www.amazon.com/Core-Python-Programming-Wesley-Chun/dp/0132269937] > > Yeah. I think so too. I'm not so sure about Alex. His talks *can* be too > abstract and, atleast I have felt that they lack the "pick me up" that > makes a good keynote. > > In any case, Ned Batchelder and Dave Beazley probably will not be able > to come. I'm going to continue stalking people today. > > > > [...] > > > > -- > ~noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > > If Roosevelt were alive, he'd turn over in his grave. -Samuel Goldwyn > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Vineet Naik From noufal at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 03:23:19 2012 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 18:23:19 -0800 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: (Vineet Naik's message of "Sun, 11 Mar 2012 00:11:16 +0530") References: <87sjhgpaxj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <874ntvq3jc.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Vineet Naik writes: > cool. All the best :-) Most of the people I spoke to are not really sure because the dates are too far off to know whether they will be free or not. This includes Armin, Jacob and a few others. There are a lot of companies that are interested in sponsoring us though so I think we should work on the sponsorship brochure and start threads. [...] -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in She used to diet on any kind of food she could lay her hands on. -- Arthur Baer, American comic and columnist From abpillai at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 06:25:08 2012 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand Balachandran Pillai) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:55:08 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: <87sjhgpaxj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87sjhgpaxj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 11:58 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Vineet Naik writes: > > > Wesley Chun can also be considered. I am totally enjoying reading his > > book "Core Python Programming" > > [http://www.amazon.com/Core-Python-Programming-Wesley-Chun/dp/0132269937 > ] > > Yeah. I think so too. I'm not so sure about Alex. His talks *can* be too > abstract and, atleast I have felt that they lack the "pick me up" that > makes a good keynote. > FYI, Alex is giving the keynote for PyCon APAC this year along with his wife and partner-hacker Anna. Just got the invite half an hour back. > > In any case, Ned Batchelder and Dave Beazley probably will not be able > to come. I'm going to continue stalking people today. > > > > [...] > > > > -- > ~noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > > If Roosevelt were alive, he'd turn over in his grave. -Samuel Goldwyn > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The people who definitely said that they can't come - Dave Beazley - Ned Batchelder - Guido van Rossum So, we need to figure out budgets and sponsorship package and then confirm it. -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in "I always avoid prophesying beforehand because it is much better to prophesy after the event has already taken place. " - Winston Churchill From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 10:44:51 2012 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 15:14:51 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Yes. On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Jaidev Deshpande wrote: > Hi > > > > If anyone is interested in being part of the "local" organizing team for > > PyCon 2012, and isn't already on the PyCon Organizers mailing list, > please > > get in touch with me. > > > I'd like to be a part of the team, but as a volunteer. Can I come for > the meeting? > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From steve at holdenweb.com Mon Mar 12 17:12:12 2012 From: steve at holdenweb.com (Steve Holden) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:12:12 -0700 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: <87boo2wbm0.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87sjhgpaxj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <874ntvq3jc.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87boo2wbm0.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: The description you are looking for is FLUFL :) regards Steve On Mar 11, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > - Barry Warsaw (Mailman, Sort of the 2nd in command after Guido) -- Steve Holden steve at holdenweb.com, Holden Web, LLC http://holdenweb.com/ Python classes (and much more) through the web http://oreillyschool.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at gmail.com Mon Mar 12 17:23:28 2012 From: noufal at gmail.com (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:23:28 -0700 Subject: [Inpycon] Keynote speakers In-Reply-To: (Steve Holden's message of "Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:12:12 -0700") References: <87sjhgpaxj.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <874ntvq3jc.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87boo2wbm0.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <87zkblvldr.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Steve Holden writes: > The description you are looking for is FLUFL :) [...] Yup. Thanks. :) -- ~noufal http://nibrahim.net.in I never put on a pair of shoes until I've worn them five years. -- Samuel Goldwyn From navin at smriti.com Tue Mar 13 01:10:31 2012 From: navin at smriti.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:40:31 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: References:

<87vcmhwcow.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87obs9wa2s.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai < abpillai at gmail.com> wrote: > I'd recommend using the main list for everything. > Ok. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From navin.kabra at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 01:28:11 2012 From: navin.kabra at gmail.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 05:58:11 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As far as the venue is concerned, at this point no real alternative to last years venue seems to be emerging. We tried to think through the possibilities at a meeting yesterday and came up with nothing. Here is the situation: - Requirements: We need one large hall, with a capacity of at least 500, and at least one or two smaller halls (with ideally a capacity of 150 each). - Last year, we had peak attendance of around 650+ and that was because we closed registrations a little early, and we pulled back from local college publicity (since we already had enough registrations). This time, if we really want, we could reach 800+ - but it is not clear whether we have an appropriate venue for those numbers - Problems with last year's venue: - Old infrastructure - All rooms were packed way beyond capacity. This is a safety issue too - (e.g. Fire norms) - Power availability for audience laptops was inadequate - Total number of halls is limited - 2nd / 3rd halls are small - We will not be able to accommodate more than 700 delegates - The only other venues that are easily accessible and have the required capacity are 5-star hotels, and those are far too expensive. At roughly Rs. 1000 per person per day (which can be brought down somewhat with negotiation and numbers guarantees, but still it is a lot). - Symbiosis Lavale is the only realistic alternative. The facilities there are phenomenal, but it is out of town (18km from University of Pune), and there is no public transport available. So we'll need to arrange transport (buses) and even then it will be inconvenient. - Another possibility is to have the event in two different campuses. This can be done by separating the event into "Beginners" and "Advanced" tracks, and have those two tracks in different venues. For example, we can have the beginners track in SICSR (which has many rooms with a capacity of roughly 120 each), and the advanced track in Symbiosis Vishwabhavan (last year's venue). The two venues are about 1.5km apart. It will not be practical for people to move from one venue to another between talks (although the more enterprising ones can move during lunch break.) - We considered lots of other options, but nothing seems to fit the bill. - If anyone can think of a specific alternative, speak now, or forever hold your peace. As far as I can see, here are the three possible options: [Option 1 - Vishwabhavan]: same as last year, but with a little better preparation, since we're forewarned [Option 2 - Lavale]: with buses plying between University and the Venue [Option 3 - Vishwabhavan + SICSR]: Beginners track in SICSR Please indicate what options you like. Answers to specific questions: > I guess being free may not be a big advantage given the sponsors we have (those who worked on the sponsorship are more qualified to say abt it than me). The location is fine, but the facility should be better. The only non-free options in Pune that satisfy the size requirements are 5-star hotels which are far too expensive. > - We'll need dedicated sponsor space. There were complaints which we need to address this time. We believe we can address this the existing venue now that we're aware of the issue. > - We need bigger halls for the second and third tracks. We overstuffed this time and the heat was oppressive. This remains a problem for [Option 1 - Vishwabhavan] . This would totally be addressed by [Option 2 - Lavale]. This would become much less of a problem if we go with [Option 3 - Vishwabhavan + SICSR] On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Navin Kabra wrote: > Hi All, > > Any strong feelings about the venue for PyCon 2012. Basically, should we > repeat the same venue or try for another one? > > The Pros and Cons for last year's venue (Symbiosis Vishwabhavan + > Symbiosis Law College) are: > > Cons: > - Infrastructure is a little old and inadequate - especially the power > points > - 2nd and 3rd hall are smaller than what we would ideally like (especially > for tutorial days) > > Pros: > - Free > - Centrally Located > - With Prof. Harshad Gune part of the PyCon organizing team, it becomes > very easy to get things done in this venue. (This advantage is shared by a > few other Symbiosis venues in Pune, but not all) > - We know this venue - what works, what doesn't. Minimal energy will be > spent on most venue related matters, and we can focus on things like > speaker/talk quality, getting good wi-fi, sponsorships etc. For any other > venue, there will be a new learning curve involved. > > Please respond to this thread with your thoughts. My personal feeling is > that we should use the same venue - its the devil we know... > > navin. > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From navin.kabra at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 01:41:00 2012 From: navin.kabra at gmail.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:11:00 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Possible Dates Message-ID: September 1st/2nd week is a good time for PyCon. The Fri-Sat-Sun in September this year are on 31-Aug/1-2-Sept, 7-8-9 Sept, and 14-15-16. Any of these dates are possible. After that, the ICC T20 World cup starts from 18 Sept onwards, and Ganesh Chaturthi starts from 19 Sept onwards. On 3-5 Sept, there is a "Cube Conference" happening in Pune ( http://www.thecubeconf.com/). This is the first time Cube is happening is Pune, so I have no idea of what kind of audience it will draw, and how much. But since is it not happening on a weekend, we needn't worry about it too much. There don't appear to be any other major religious holidays. No major exams for students in Pune that we are aware of. At this point, let use tentatively say that PyCon 2012 will be around the weekend of 8-9 Sept. Please spend some time checking for possible clashes. We would like to freeze the dates soon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From navin at smriti.com Tue Mar 13 02:10:10 2012 From: navin at smriti.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 06:40:10 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Planning Meeting Notes - 12 March Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Navin Kabra wrote: > Hi All, > The Pune "local" team is meeting early next week to discuss details of > PyCon 2012, the most important agenda item being Venue finalization. We > will keep this mailing list updated with the outcome of our discussions. > We met yesterday. Dhananjay Nene, Harshad Gune, Harshad Oak, Saager Mhatre, Ramakrishna Reddy and Navin Kabra attended. Here are the topics we discussed: Venue: I've posted the relevant section of the discussion in the "PyCon 2012: Venue" thread Sponsorships: Dhananjay will post an update Dates: I've posted the relevant section of the discussion in new thread titled "PyCon 2012 Possible Dates." Please use that thread for all dates related discussion Budget and Ticket Pricing: See Notes Below Number of days and Format: See Notes Below Overall, I think we need to freeze the venue and the sponsorship document within the next few weeks, so please make it a point to respond to those topics in the appropriate threads. Budget and Ticket Pricing: - Last year, we charged Rs. 300 early bird (400 later) for the delegates. The per person variable cost (which includes food, T-shirt, doAttend commission, and some overheads) came to about Rs. 750. In the last few weeks leading up to the conference, our budget was barely covering our costs, and we were in the danger of losing money with each additional registration. Thus, we closed registrations a bit early, and also withdrew our plans for publicizing PyCon amongst Pune colleges. - We would prefer to not be in a similar situation. The cleanest solution is to recover the variable cost from delegates. This time, the variable costs will be slightly higher since we're likely to have a swag bag in addition to the T-shirt. - Hence, it is suggested that this time, we should probably have Rs. 400 early bird (500 later) for students and something like Rs. 1500 early bird (1750 later) for professionals. The total number of cheap tickets (Rs. 400/500 ones) should be capped at a number like 300 or 350, and after those are over, everyone has to buy the more expensive one. - Last year the number of students were probably around 200, but that's because we pulled back from doing student oriented publicity. This time we could substantially increase that number. - Should we charge for tutorials separately? Problems: Enforcement and monitoring would be too of an overhead. This will probably discourage students from attending the main conference. - When should online registrations close - so we have a good headcount? Number of days and format: - Should we have the same format as last year or change something? - Should it be just 2 days instead of 3 days - because attendance drops on Sunday? Last year we probably had a 15% - 20% drop in attendance on Sunday. - The cost also goes down if we have just 2 days. But maybe we should not cut anything in the conference just for cost reasons - we can easily increase our sponsorships to cover costs. - Should we have tutorials on Sunday instead of Friday? - Should we have an semi-independent workshop for Python beginners? This need not necessarily be "Pycon" branded but the intention is to increase the number of students and beginners who can attend Pycon and get something useful out of it. Should this be on Wed/Thu, so out-of-towners can attend, or should it be one or two weekends earlier so that people can attend on a weekend. The former will have low attendance due to it being during working days; the latter will be appropriate only for Pune local people. - Instead of 1 day of "tutorials" (which really turned out to be workshops) and 2 days of the main conference, should we instead split it into "Beginners" and "Advanced"? This will also allow us to split the venue (see detailed discussion in the "PyCon 2012: Venue" thread on this topic.) Thoughts? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kausikram at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 05:31:48 2012 From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:01:48 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: > > > This remains a problem for [Option 1 - Vishwabhavan] . This would totally > be addressed by [Option 2 - Lavale]. This would become much less of a > problem if we go with [Option 3 - Vishwabhavan + SICSR] Do we have demographics from last years conference? if we have a considerable number of out of pune people then option 2 wouldnt hurt after all. (these are people who spent a couple of grands to reach pune they surely wouldnt mind spending a few hundred rupees to reach this venue). option 1, option 2 are +1s for me and option 3 a strong -1. and if it means we will have to curtail registrations to just 400 people then so be it. -- Kausikram Krishnasayee Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.in | Blog: blog.kausikram.in | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email: kausikram at gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abdulmuneer at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 05:48:58 2012 From: abdulmuneer at gmail.com (Abdul Muneer) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:18:58 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: People tend to bring in their novice friends to give them more exposure (at least I plan to do so :-) ). The comfort level of the our friends will be greatly impacted if we keep the beginner section far away. Option 2 should be fine if we ply enough buses on peak hours and then a regular service on every hour or so. Regards, Abdul Muneer On Mar 13, 2012 10:01 AM, "kausikram krishnasayee" wrote: > >> This remains a problem for [Option 1 - Vishwabhavan] . This would totally >> be addressed by [Option 2 - Lavale]. This would become much less of a >> problem if we go with [Option 3 - Vishwabhavan + SICSR] > > > Do we have demographics from last years conference? if we have a > considerable number of out of pune people then option 2 wouldnt hurt after > all. (these are people who spent a couple of grands to reach pune they > surely wouldnt mind spending a few hundred rupees to reach this venue). > > option 1, option 2 are +1s for me and option 3 a strong -1. and if it > means we will have to curtail registrations to just 400 people then so be > it. > > -- > Kausikram Krishnasayee > Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.in | Blog: > blog.kausikram.in | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email: > kausikram at gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490 > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shakthimaan at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 06:07:04 2012 From: shakthimaan at gmail.com (Shakthi Kannan) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:37:04 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi, --- On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Abdul Muneer wrote: | Option 2 should be fine if we ply enough buses on peak hours and then a | regular service on every hour or so. \-- If option 2 is chosen, and the buses have those TV/DVD player sets in them, one could possible run Python tutorial sessions/screencasts during the bus journey - call it, maybe, "Python on Wheels" or something. Just a suggestion! SK -- Shakthi Kannan http://www.shakthimaan.com From foss.mailinglists at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 06:28:02 2012 From: foss.mailinglists at gmail.com (sankarshan) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 10:58:02 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Planning Meeting Notes - 12 March In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Navin Kabra wrote: > Hence, it is suggested that this time, we should probably have Rs. 400 early > bird (500 later) for students and something like Rs. 1500 early bird (1750 > later) for professionals. The total number of cheap tickets (Rs. 400/500 > ones) should be capped at a number like 300 or 350, and after those are > over, everyone has to buy the more expensive one. Is there a reason why InPyCon is not looking to charge more for early bird tickets both for students and professionals ? For example, 600 (and, 800 later) for students and, 1800 (and, 2200 later) for professionals. I ask this not to challenge the decision but as an observation of the ticket prices of various conferences around Pune and other cities. A flagship conference around Python, which is what I'd like to think InPyCon is, has enough material to justify those gate prices. Again, please feel free to whack the above proposal away. > Should we have tutorials on Sunday instead of Friday? That would probably depend on the intended audience for the tutorials. If these are participants who are professionals and are interested in attending specific high-end tutorials, keeping them to a weekend will probably see a higher chance of them being keen enough to sign up and attend. > Should we have an semi-independent workshop for Python beginners? This need > not necessarily be "Pycon" branded but the intention is to increase the > number of students and beginners who can attend Pycon and get something > useful out of it. Should this be on Wed/Thu, so out-of-towners can attend, > or should it be one or two weekends earlier so that people can attend on a > weekend. The former will have low attendance due to it being during working > days; the latter will be appropriate only for Pune local people. Focusing on the local students may not be a bad idea at all. There's much to do at the Pune and suburbs level and organizing a sort of 'preparatory' workshop before the event would probably do well. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 07:31:50 2012 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:01:50 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Planning Meeting Notes - 12 March In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:58 AM, sankarshan wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Navin Kabra wrote: > > > Hence, it is suggested that this time, we should probably have Rs. 400 > early > > bird (500 later) for students and something like Rs. 1500 early bird > (1750 > > later) for professionals. The total number of cheap tickets (Rs. 400/500 > > ones) should be capped at a number like 300 or 350, and after those are > > over, everyone has to buy the more expensive one. > > Is there a reason why InPyCon is not looking to charge more for early > bird tickets both for students and professionals ? For example, 600 > (and, 800 later) for students and, 1800 (and, 2200 later) for > professionals. I ask this not to challenge the decision but as an > observation of the ticket prices of various conferences around Pune > and other cities. A flagship conference around Python, which is what > I'd like to think InPyCon is, has enough material to justify those > gate prices. > > Again, please feel free to whack the above proposal away. > > With students there was a discussion on what constituted a reasonable amount. End of the day it will boil down to a judgement call. If you ask me 500 is better than 600 from a psychological perspective of what one is shelling out. With professionals, I am certain we could go much higher given the quality of content. Here's how the matter ended where it did (from an approach perspective) - We want to ensure that the essential variable costs (primarily lunch, T-Shirts & then other miscellaneous items) are taken care of by the gate fees. - We did want to make sure that we encourage student attendance - The thought was that 500 was a good enough amount to be levied from students - Given last year's expenditure, and adding a bit for inflation, the amount could be considered to be Rs. 1000 from a budgeting perspective - We started off by looking at Rs. 2000 for professionals, but quickly realised that if we capped the student seats to no more than 50% of the total seats, then we could actually meet our objectives by fixing the open delegate fee to Rs. 1500. So if you really look at it the driving philosophy we applied was what the market will bear (for students) and what we need and no more (for open). I'm certain we could charge more, but not sure if we would like to. Dhananjay > > Should we have tutorials on Sunday instead of Friday? > > That would probably depend on the intended audience for the tutorials. > If these are participants who are professionals and are interested in > attending specific high-end tutorials, keeping them to a weekend will > probably see a higher chance of them being keen enough to sign up and > attend. > > > Should we have an semi-independent workshop for Python beginners? This > need > > not necessarily be "Pycon" branded but the intention is to increase the > > number of students and beginners who can attend Pycon and get something > > useful out of it. Should this be on Wed/Thu, so out-of-towners can > attend, > > or should it be one or two weekends earlier so that people can attend on > a > > weekend. The former will have low attendance due to it being during > working > > days; the latter will be appropriate only for Pune local people. > > Focusing on the local students may not be a bad idea at all. There's > much to do at the Pune and suburbs level and organizing a sort of > 'preparatory' workshop before the event would probably do well. > > I think that should be a focus. We do need to reach out to the colleges and students and find a way where while primary PyCon sessions reach out towards the really higher end of what the community is involved with in terms of Python, we have other ways (not to be mixed with the primary sessions) by which we reach out to those who are still at the very early stages of Python. Dhananjay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The former will have low attendance due to it being > during working days; the latter will be appropriate only for Pune local > people. > - Instead of 1 day of "tutorials" (which really turned out to be > workshops) and 2 days of the main conference, should we instead split it > into "Beginners" and "Advanced"? This will also allow us to split the venue > (see detailed discussion in the "PyCon 2012: Venue" thread on this topic.) > > Thoughts? > Remember that if we continue with Vishwabhavan, we will need to limit the total delegate count to 700 (a number we almost hit last year before we closed the registrations). If we want to go higher one option is to go out of town like Lavale. The issue with this approach it is likely to discourage many thus beating the very purpose we're trying to achieve. For those who would still want to attend, transportation will be a massive and expensive logistics undertaking which could be an interesting one for a volunteer driven organisation like ours. One way I think helps is to have additional parallel tracks in a location close by. By introducing a beginners track (call it Pycon Lite? #justkidding) at an alternative location (probably just 5 mins away but logistically 15 mins given parking & walking time etc.) one can reach out to a larger number of people (read: students, and people at early stages of python) even though as would be obvious people won't be able to transition between the tracks held across multiple locations. Note that this beginners track is not meant as a replacement for something we did at earlier PyCons, but rather as an additional track. Dhananjay -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Tue Mar 13 07:44:11 2012 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 14:44:11 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Planning Meeting Notes - 12 March In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <1331621051.6917.YahooMailNeo@web193401.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> We need to even consider student who want to travel from other location . It will end up being to expensive for them to attend this . Even professional( particularly beginner from startup) ?will feel it too expensive to attend . We need to consider this aspect also. ________________________________ From: sankarshan To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2012 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Planning Meeting Notes - 12 March On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Navin Kabra wrote: > Hence, it is suggested that this time, we should probably have Rs. 400 early > bird (500 later) for students and something like Rs. 1500 early bird (1750 > later) for professionals. The total number of cheap tickets (Rs. 400/500 > ones) should be capped at a number like 300 or 350, and after those are > over, everyone has to buy the more expensive one. Is there a reason why InPyCon is not looking to charge more for early bird tickets both for students and professionals ? For example, 600 (and, 800 later) for students and, 1800 (and, 2200 later) for professionals. I ask this not to challenge the decision but as an observation of the ticket prices of various conferences around Pune and other cities. A flagship conference around Python, which is what I'd like to think InPyCon is, has enough material to justify those gate prices. Again, please feel free to whack the above proposal away. > Should we have tutorials on Sunday instead of Friday? That would probably depend on the intended audience for the tutorials. If these are participants who are professionals and are interested in attending specific high-end tutorials, keeping them to a weekend will probably see a higher chance of them being keen enough to sign up and attend. > Should we have an semi-independent workshop for Python beginners? This need > not necessarily be "Pycon" branded but the intention is to increase the > number of students and beginners who can attend Pycon and get something > useful out of it. Should this be on Wed/Thu, so out-of-towners can attend, > or should it be one or two weekends earlier so that people can attend on a > weekend. The former will have low attendance due to it being during working > days; the latter will be appropriate only for Pune local people. Focusing on the local students may not be a bad idea at all. There's much to do at the Pune and suburbs level and organizing a sort of 'preparatory' workshop before the event would probably do well. -- sankarshan mukhopadhyay _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sree at mahiti.org Tue Mar 13 07:55:58 2012 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:25:58 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Planning Meeting Notes - 12 March In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 13 March 2012 12:13, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > > One way I think helps is to have additional parallel tracks in a location > close by. By introducing a beginners track (call it Pycon Lite? > #justkidding) at an alternative location (probably just 5 mins away but > logistically 15 mins given parking & walking time etc.) one can reach out > to a larger number of people (read: students, and people at early stages of > python) even though as would be obvious people won't be able to transition > between the tracks held across multiple locations. > Does Vishwabarathi have class rooms of capacity 100+ ? This would work too... - sree -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 08:01:59 2012 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:31:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Planning Meeting Notes - 12 March In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > > > On 13 March 2012 12:13, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > >> >> One way I think helps is to have additional parallel tracks in a location >> close by. By introducing a beginners track (call it Pycon Lite? >> #justkidding) at an alternative location (probably just 5 mins away but >> logistically 15 mins given parking & walking time etc.) one can reach out >> to a larger number of people (read: students, and people at early stages of >> python) even though as would be obvious people won't be able to transition >> between the tracks held across multiple locations. >> > > Does Vishwabarathi have class rooms of capacity 100+ ? This would work > too... > Last year there were only two (of which one of which was unavailable to us for one of the three days due to institute exigencies, resulting in a scramble for alternatives). I doubt if that has increased. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dhananjay.nene at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 08:06:43 2012 From: dhananjay.nene at gmail.com (Dhananjay Nene) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:36:43 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Planning Meeting Notes - 12 March In-Reply-To: <1331621051.6917.YahooMailNeo@web193401.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> References:

<1331621051.6917.YahooMailNeo@web193401.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:14 PM, vijay wrote: > We need to even consider student who want to travel from other location . > It will end up being to expensive for them to attend this . > Even professional( particularly beginner from startup) will feel it too > expensive to attend . We need to consider this aspect also. > > imo we should keep the goal to ensuring that we on an average get Rs. 1000 (thats USD 20) per delegate. Last year, we were scrambling at the last moment to find ways to cut costs and corners since we were getting close to effectively losing money per every additional registration. Not sure if Navin looks forward to being in that seat this time. I think any suggestions have to be evaluated in terms of balancing the books. I think any concessions must be matched by counter increases somewhere else (or vice-versa). > ------------------------------ > *From:* sankarshan > *To:* Mailing list for the PyCon India conference > *Sent:* Tuesday, 13 March 2012 10:58 AM > *Subject:* Re: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Planning Meeting Notes - 12 March > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Navin Kabra wrote: > > > Hence, it is suggested that this time, we should probably have Rs. 400 > early > > bird (500 later) for students and something like Rs. 1500 early bird > (1750 > > later) for professionals. The total number of cheap tickets (Rs. 400/500 > > ones) should be capped at a number like 300 or 350, and after those are > > over, everyone has to buy the more expensive one. > > Is there a reason why InPyCon is not looking to charge more for early > bird tickets both for students and professionals ? For example, 600 > (and, 800 later) for students and, 1800 (and, 2200 later) for > professionals. I ask this not to challenge the decision but as an > observation of the ticket prices of various conferences around Pune > and other cities. A flagship conference around Python, which is what > I'd like to think InPyCon is, has enough material to justify those > gate prices. > > Again, please feel free to whack the above proposal away. > > > > > > Should we have tutorials on Sunday instead of Friday? > > That would probably depend on the intended audience for the tutorials. > If these are participants who are professionals and are interested in > attending specific high-end tutorials, keeping them to a weekend will > probably see a higher chance of them being keen enough to sign up and > attend. > > > Should we have an semi-independent workshop for Python beginners? This > need > > not necessarily be "Pycon" branded but the intention is to increase the > > number of students and beginners who can attend Pycon and get something > > useful out of it. Should this be on Wed/Thu, so out-of-towners can > attend, > > or should it be one or two weekends earlier so that people can attend on > a > > weekend. The former will have low attendance due to it being during > working > > days; the latter will be appropriate only for Pune local people. > > Focusing on the local students may not be a bad idea at all. There's > much to do at the Pune and suburbs level and organizing a sort of > 'preparatory' workshop before the event would probably do well. > > > > -- > sankarshan mukhopadhyay > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://blog.dhananjaynene.com twitter: @dnene google plus: http://gplus.to/dhananjaynene -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sree at mahiti.org Tue Mar 13 08:06:42 2012 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:36:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Planning Meeting Notes - 12 March In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On 13 March 2012 12:31, Dhananjay Nene wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > >> >> >> On 13 March 2012 12:13, Dhananjay Nene wrote: >> >>> >>> One way I think helps is to have additional parallel tracks in a >>> location close by. By introducing a beginners track (call it Pycon Lite? >>> #justkidding) at an alternative location (probably just 5 mins away but >>> logistically 15 mins given parking & walking time etc.) one can reach out >>> to a larger number of people (read: students, and people at early stages of >>> python) even though as would be obvious people won't be able to transition >>> between the tracks held across multiple locations. >>> >> >> Does Vishwabarathi have class rooms of capacity 100+ ? This would work >> too... >> > > Last year there were only two (of which one of which was unavailable to us > for one of the three days due to institute exigencies, resulting in a > scramble for alternatives). I doubt if that has increased. > > If possible, I suggest exploring other colleges with good conference facilities located with in city limits. - sree -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From navin at smriti.com Tue Mar 13 09:29:38 2012 From: navin at smriti.com (Navin Kabra) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:59:38 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Planning Meeting Notes - 12 March In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Sreekanth S Rameshaiah wrote: > If possible, I suggest exploring other colleges with good conference > facilities located with in city limits. > As far as we know, there are none which are both, within city limits and which can meet the size requirements, (with the possible exception of CoEP which is worse for other reasons). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From venkatesh.fatality at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 13:35:26 2012 From: venkatesh.fatality at gmail.com (Venkatesh Halli) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:05:26 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012 Planning Meeting Notes - 12 March In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On 13 March 2012 10:58, sankarshan wrote: > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 6:40 AM, Navin Kabra wrote: > > > Hence, it is suggested that this time, we should probably have Rs. 400 > early > > bird (500 later) for students and something like Rs. 1500 early bird > (1750 > > later) for professionals. The total number of cheap tickets (Rs. 400/500 > > ones) should be capped at a number like 300 or 350, and after those are > > over, everyone has to buy the more expensive one. > > Is there a reason why InPyCon is not looking to charge more for early > bird tickets both for students and professionals ? For example, 600 > (and, 800 later) for students and, 1800 (and, 2200 later) for > professionals. I ask this not to challenge the decision but as an > observation of the ticket prices of various conferences around Pune > and other cities. A flagship conference around Python, which is what > I'd like to think InPyCon is, has enough material to justify those > gate prices. > > Again, please feel free to whack the above proposal away. > +1. Rs 600 and 800 later are very good prices. I'm a student, and I see posters for workshops and events on a weekly basis. None of them are below Rs1000. > > > Should we have tutorials on Sunday instead of Friday? > > > > Should we have an semi-independent workshop for Python beginners? This > need > > not necessarily be "Pycon" branded but the intention is to increase the > > number of students and beginners who can attend Pycon and get something > > useful out of it. Should this be on Wed/Thu, so out-of-towners can > attend, > > or should it be one or two weekends earlier so that people can attend on > a > > weekend. The former will have low attendance due to it being during > working > > days; the latter will be appropriate only for Pune local people. > > Focusing on the local students may not be a bad idea at all. There's > much to do at the Pune and suburbs level and organizing a sort of > 'preparatory' workshop before the event would probably do well. > +1 to this idea too. A preparatory workshop would probably do very well. Python isn't taught at the university level, and few know how to program in it. A couple of my friends and I are organising a workshop on python and computing, and I spent most of my day telling people what python is and how it is different. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From brij.programming at gmail.com Tue Mar 13 19:02:12 2012 From: brij.programming at gmail.com (Brijesh Kartha) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:32:12 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > Hi, > > --- On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Abdul Muneer > wrote: > | Option 2 should be fine if we ply enough buses on peak hours and then a > | regular service on every hour or so. > \-- > > If option 2 is chosen, and the buses have those TV/DVD player sets in > them, one could possible run Python tutorial sessions/screencasts > during the bus journey - call it, maybe, "Python on Wheels" or > something. > > Just a suggestion! > > SK > > I think if we can arrange for shuttles through the day option 2 would be a great option. Shakti, your suggestion is most interesting and it would be fun if we could do that. regards, Brij. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From venkatesh.fatality at gmail.com Sun Mar 18 07:18:36 2012 From: venkatesh.fatality at gmail.com (Venkatesh Halli) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 11:48:36 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon 2012: Venue? In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi, I just heard from a couple of friends that the amphitheatre at Fergusson College has a capacity of 700-800 people. It also has quite a few lecture halls large. Has anyone considered this? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fergusson_College#NM_Wadia_Amphitheatre On 13 March 2012 23:32, Brijesh Kartha wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:37 AM, Shakthi Kannan wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> --- On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Abdul Muneer >> wrote: >> | Option 2 should be fine if we ply enough buses on peak hours and then a >> | regular service on every hour or so. >> \-- >> >> If option 2 is chosen, and the buses have those TV/DVD player sets in >> them, one could possible run Python tutorial sessions/screencasts >> during the bus journey - call it, maybe, "Python on Wheels" or >> something. >> >> Just a suggestion! >> >> SK >> >> > I think if we can arrange for shuttles through the day option 2 would be a > great option. > Shakti, your suggestion is most interesting and it would be fun if we > could do that. > > regards, > Brij. > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: