From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Mon Oct 1 10:07:09 2012 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2012 13:37:09 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Collated feedback Message-ID: <87haqe62fm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> The following is the collated feedback from the 30 minute discussion after the AGM. I've interspersed some of my comments. 1. Tutorials were very poor. Bad instructors and couldn't learn things. - We should make it clear what the expectations from a tutorial are and should be *much* more rigourous about them. They need to be prepared up front and that's what we'll use to decide. It's not just a presentation and so the demands will be stricter. e.g. Slides in advance, much more detailed information etc. - OTOH, maybe it is sensible to avoid tutorials all together. 3 days is harrowing for everybody and the separate registrations and stuff makes it quite hard. 2. Infrastructure was poor. - A/V - This was a manpower and hardware problem as far as I can tell. I think if we havesome more time and dedicated hardware per room, we can fix this. - Internet - This could have also been solved if we had checked the upstream internet a few days before the event and managed it. It's a manpower problem. - Acoustics - I think Dharmaram has bad acoustics in it's halls. We should use a different venue. 3. Website not good enough. - This is a coding problem and we can fix it over time. Maybe even pay a professional designer to do over the visual aspects of the website. Eventframe is open source so we should be be able to add features that we need. Some that I can think of are. - Allow registered people to mark which talks they're attending after we select (but before we schedule them) so that we can mitigate the room overcrowding problem. - Export the schedule and other parts of the site which need to be printed into PDFs. - Integrate payment/registration into eventframe itself rather than use doattend. They have a separate database which we have to spend time and energy to ingest into our own. - Some way of providing anonymous feedback to presenters on the website. If a large audience is frustrated with a speaker, it should be possible to provide that as feedback. A simple +1, -1 scheme along with the talk might be sufficient. 4. Punctuality - Talks were arbitrarily cancelled and rescheduled. - We need a central point to get the "official" schedule from. This has to work even if the net doesn't so I think a large board positioned centrally will work. - Modifications to the schedule without changing this are not acceptable. Anyone has a doubt, this will be the canonical place to get the latest data from. Tweets etc. are things people might miss. 5. Poor talk quality - This was by far the biggest complaint. Following are some suggestions. - One hour is too long for a talk and gives people time to ramble. 30 minutes of talk plus 10 or 15 minutes of questions. If it takes more than that, it's covering too much. - CFP and selection done *much* earlier with a larger review committee. Perhaps with multiple meetings of members (over IRC). We'll have to take into consideration the bio of the presenter and get a little brutal with selection. - Areas of talk and level of audience needs to be very clear. People need to take time to be clear about all this. - We might miss out some good speakers but I'm okay with that if we can filter out all the really bad ones. The net gain for the attendees will be higher. 6. Too tight a schedule - No sufficient gap between talk slots. - We should keep 5 (or even 10) minutes of "free time" between slots and mercilessly enforce this. 7. Lightning talks and open spaces - We arbitrarily and on the fly created the "open room" A3. No one will use this. - This should be part of the schedule, printed on everything so that everyone knows that it's there and uses it. - Last minute drastic changes with new ideas like "open spaces" are a bad idea. I think we should start much earlier to avoid problems like this this year. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From benignbala at gmail.com Mon Oct 1 10:40:16 2012 From: benignbala at gmail.com (Balachandran Sivakumar) Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:10:16 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Collated feedback In-Reply-To: <87haqe62fm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87haqe62fm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Hi, First, congrats to the organisers of Pycon India, for pulling it off, given that we had a late start this year, with the venue shifting to Bangalore and all that. And we had really nice key note speakers. Both the presentations were good. Thanks to Noufal for this mail. It is a nice summary of the over all mood. I would like to add a few of my suggestions. On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > > - OTOH, maybe it is sensible to avoid tutorials all together. 3 days is > harrowing for everybody and the separate registrations and stuff makes > it quite hard. > I would like to have tutorials(though I couldn't attend them this year due to unavoidable reasons). This where people new to python pick things up. But, here is what I would suggest. We should do the CfP by around April, and announce the selected proposals by around mid-July. We can use the intervening time to do rigorous rounds of selection - including asking the presenter to show a non-trivial working example of his talk(and it should not be picked from the tool's tutorial page). This is just a suggestion > > 5. Poor talk quality - This was by far the biggest complaint. Following > are some suggestions. > This was felt by a lot of people. We felt that some of the presenters were actually disinterested. May be their organisation asked them to give a talk ? Again, talks should not be blind theoretical data, picked from various web sites. These are a few things that we should take into account. Probably, we need to ask people to upload their complete material, including slides and code, and with more volunteers review the content, at least a month before the event. I agree that we need a lot more man power for this. But we will do our best. > - One hour is too long for a talk and gives people time to ramble. 30 > minutes of talk plus 10 or 15 minutes of questions. If it takes more > than that, it's covering too much. > May be like the US pycon, we can have longer sessions, in which lengthy discussions can be organised. For eg., someone explaining the ZTK may not be able to cover up a lot of things in a diligent way within 1 hour. > - CFP and selection done *much* earlier with a larger review > committee. Perhaps with multiple meetings of members (over IRC). We'll > have to take into consideration the bio of the presenter and get a > little brutal with selection. > Yes :) About April beginning, and close it by first week of May. After selecting the proposals, allow uploads of presentation material till middle of June. And do further checks on that ? Will that be possible if we have an expert panel of volunteers ? > > 6. Too tight a schedule - No sufficient gap between talk slots. > > - We should keep 5 (or even 10) minutes of "free time" between slots and > mercilessly enforce this. > Yes, by the time we move out of a hall and get into the next, the speaker has already finished the intent and purpose of the talk. Thanks again to the organisers for making it a good event. We will do our best to improve the event further :) -- Thank you Balachandran Sivakumar Arise Awake and stop not till the goal is reached. - Swami Vivekananda Mail: benignbala at gmail.com Blog: http://benignbala.wordpress.com/ From me at bibhas.in Tue Oct 2 06:49:29 2012 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:19:29 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Handbook Message-ID: Can we proceed with that as we discussed? Make a git wiki maybe? ---- Bibhas http://bibhas.in -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at bibhas.in Tue Oct 2 06:50:51 2012 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:20:51 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87lifsvktm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Anand, I think it's time we send this out to the attendees. ---- Bibhas http://bibhas.in On 30 September 2012 12:22, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > Here is a shortened url to send it out. http://goo.gl/grvVi > > ---- > Bibhas > http://bibhas.in > > > > On 29 September 2012 23:58, Anush Shetty wrote: > >> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: >> > Find the comment inline. >> > >> > ---- >> > Bibhas >> > http://bibhas.in >> > >> > >> > >> > On 29 September 2012 23:40, Anand Chitipothu >> wrote: >> >> >> >> We should use "PyCon India" not "PyCon", that usually means US PyCon. >> > >> > >> > Yes. Will fix it. >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> Here is my suggested order. >> >> >> >> * What is your profession? >> >> * Student >> >> * Software Professional >> >> * Other >> >> >> >> * How many years of experience do you have Python? [is this required?] >> >> >> > We can just ask "Do you have any prior experience in Python?" >> > Anything more than that might not be convenient for them. >> > >> >> >> >> * Are you attending PyCon India conference for the first time? >> >> >> >> * How did you hear about PyCon India? >> >> >> >> * What days did you attend PyCon India? >> >> >> >> * How do you rate: >> >> * Keynotes >> >> * Talks >> >> * Internet Connectivity >> >> * Food >> >> * Venue >> >> * Overall experience of the conference >> >> >> >> * Are you thinking of attending PyCon India next year? >> >> >> >> * If you have any comments or suggestions to improve the event, please >> >> write here. >> >> It would have been awesome if you could display this on one of the >> touch screen monitors? >> >> - >> Anush >> >> >> >> >> >> Anand >> >> >> >> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Bibhas Ch Debnath >> wrote: >> >> > I had nothing to do, so did this - >> >> > >> >> > >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFp5MlV0Vk5nODU2cXJZWDBSVFR1YWc6MQ >> >> > >> >> > ---- >> >> > Bibhas >> >> > http://bibhas.in >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > On 29 September 2012 22:35, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Here is the PyCon US 2012 survey form - >> >> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pycon2012 >> >> >> >> >> >> ---- >> >> >> Bibhas >> >> >> http://bibhas.in >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 29 September 2012 22:25, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Yes. Google Docs would do I think. Surveymonkey or similar services >> >> >>> are >> >> >>> too restricted for free services. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> ---- >> >> >>> Bibhas >> >> >>> http://bibhas.in >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> On 29 September 2012 22:16, Noufal Ibrahim > > >> >> >>> wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> I was speaking to Yannick earlier in the night and he suggested >> >> >>>> sending >> >> >>>> out a link to an exit survey to all the participants. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> Feedback on the talks and tutorials, general comments and perhaps >> >> >>>> even >> >> >>>> some demographic data ("are you a student/ professional etc."). >> This >> >> >>>> expressed as a percentage is useful data for future sponsorships. >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> It's possible to set something up like this using google docs or >> >> >>>> surveymonkey isn't it? >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> -- >> >> >>>> Cordially, >> >> >>>> Noufal >> >> >>>> http://nibrahim.net.in >> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >> >>>> Inpycon mailing list >> >> >>>> Inpycon at python.org >> >> >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Inpycon mailing list >> >> > Inpycon at python.org >> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Inpycon mailing list >> >> Inpycon at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Inpycon mailing list >> > Inpycon at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at kracekumar.com Tue Oct 2 07:05:30 2012 From: me at kracekumar.com (kracekumar) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 10:35:30 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87lifsvktm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <506A761A.5040902@kracekumar.com> It would be nice if we add "Thank you for being part of pycon 2012 and see you next year. In case you would like to help us running pycon 2013 subscribe to the mailling inpycon address for latest update." > Anand, > > I think it's time we send this out to the attendees. > > ---- > Bibhas > http://bibhas.in > > > > On 30 September 2012 12:22, Bibhas Ch Debnath > wrote: > > Here is a shortened url to send it out. http://goo.gl/grvVi > > ---- > Bibhas > http://bibhas.in > > > > On 29 September 2012 23:58, Anush Shetty > wrote: > > On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Bibhas Ch Debnath > > wrote: > > Find the comment inline. > > > > ---- > > Bibhas > > http://bibhas.in > > > > > > > > On 29 September 2012 23:40, Anand Chitipothu > > wrote: > >> > >> We should use "PyCon India" not "PyCon", that usually means > US PyCon. > > > > > > Yes. Will fix it. > > > >> > >> > >> Here is my suggested order. > >> > >> * What is your profession? > >> * Student > >> * Software Professional > >> * Other > >> > >> * How many years of experience do you have Python? [is this > required?] > >> > > We can just ask "Do you have any prior experience in Python?" > > Anything more than that might not be convenient for them. > > > >> > >> * Are you attending PyCon India conference for the first time? > >> > >> * How did you hear about PyCon India? > >> > >> * What days did you attend PyCon India? > >> > >> * How do you rate: > >> * Keynotes > >> * Talks > >> * Internet Connectivity > >> * Food > >> * Venue > >> * Overall experience of the conference > >> > >> * Are you thinking of attending PyCon India next year? > >> > >> * If you have any comments or suggestions to improve the > event, please > >> write here. > > It would have been awesome if you could display this on one of the > touch screen monitors? > > - > Anush > > > >> > >> Anand > >> > >> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Bibhas Ch Debnath > > wrote: > >> > I had nothing to do, so did this - > >> > > >> > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFp5MlV0Vk5nODU2cXJZWDBSVFR1YWc6MQ > >> > > >> > ---- > >> > Bibhas > >> > http://bibhas.in > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > On 29 September 2012 22:35, Bibhas Ch Debnath > > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Here is the PyCon US 2012 survey form - > >> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pycon2012 > >> >> > >> >> ---- > >> >> Bibhas > >> >> http://bibhas.in > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 29 September 2012 22:25, Bibhas Ch Debnath > > wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Yes. Google Docs would do I think. Surveymonkey or > similar services > >> >>> are > >> >>> too restricted for free services. > >> >>> > >> >>> ---- > >> >>> Bibhas > >> >>> http://bibhas.in > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> On 29 September 2012 22:16, Noufal Ibrahim > > > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> I was speaking to Yannick earlier in the night and he > suggested > >> >>>> sending > >> >>>> out a link to an exit survey to all the participants. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> Feedback on the talks and tutorials, general comments > and perhaps > >> >>>> even > >> >>>> some demographic data ("are you a student/ > professional etc."). This > >> >>>> expressed as a percentage is useful data for future > sponsorships. > >> >>>> > >> >>>> It's possible to set something up like this using > google docs or > >> >>>> surveymonkey isn't it? > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> -- > >> >>>> Cordially, > >> >>>> Noufal > >> >>>> http://nibrahim.net.in > >> >>>> _______________________________________________ > >> >>>> Inpycon mailing list > >> >>>> Inpycon at python.org > >> >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Inpycon mailing list > >> > Inpycon at python.org > >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Inpycon mailing list > >> Inpycon at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inpycon mailing list > > Inpycon at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Thanks & Regards Kracekumar.R "Talk is cheap, show me the code." -- Linus Torvalds -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at bibhas.in Tue Oct 2 07:15:22 2012 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:45:22 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: <506A761A.5040902@kracekumar.com> References: <87lifsvktm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A761A.5040902@kracekumar.com> Message-ID: Changed it to - "Thank you for being part of PyCon India 2012. In case you would like to help improve PyCon India 2013, subscribe to the official mailing list at http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon. We wish to see you next time. :)" ---- Bibhas http://bibhas.in On 2 October 2012 10:35, kracekumar wrote: > It would be nice if we add "Thank you for being part of pycon 2012 and > see you next year. In case you would like to help us running pycon 2013 > subscribe to the mailling inpycon address for latest update." > > Anand, > > I think it's time we send this out to the attendees. > > ---- > Bibhas > http://bibhas.in > > > > On 30 September 2012 12:22, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > >> Here is a shortened url to send it out. http://goo.gl/grvVi >> >> ---- >> Bibhas >> http://bibhas.in >> >> >> >> On 29 September 2012 23:58, Anush Shetty wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Bibhas Ch Debnath >>> wrote: >>> > Find the comment inline. >>> > >>> > ---- >>> > Bibhas >>> > http://bibhas.in >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On 29 September 2012 23:40, Anand Chitipothu >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> We should use "PyCon India" not "PyCon", that usually means US PyCon. >>> > >>> > >>> > Yes. Will fix it. >>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Here is my suggested order. >>> >> >>> >> * What is your profession? >>> >> * Student >>> >> * Software Professional >>> >> * Other >>> >> >>> >> * How many years of experience do you have Python? [is this required?] >>> >> >>> > We can just ask "Do you have any prior experience in Python?" >>> > Anything more than that might not be convenient for them. >>> > >>> >> >>> >> * Are you attending PyCon India conference for the first time? >>> >> >>> >> * How did you hear about PyCon India? >>> >> >>> >> * What days did you attend PyCon India? >>> >> >>> >> * How do you rate: >>> >> * Keynotes >>> >> * Talks >>> >> * Internet Connectivity >>> >> * Food >>> >> * Venue >>> >> * Overall experience of the conference >>> >> >>> >> * Are you thinking of attending PyCon India next year? >>> >> >>> >> * If you have any comments or suggestions to improve the event, please >>> >> write here. >>> >>> It would have been awesome if you could display this on one of the >>> touch screen monitors? >>> >>> - >>> Anush >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> Anand >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Bibhas Ch Debnath >>> wrote: >>> >> > I had nothing to do, so did this - >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFp5MlV0Vk5nODU2cXJZWDBSVFR1YWc6MQ >>> >> > >>> >> > ---- >>> >> > Bibhas >>> >> > http://bibhas.in >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > On 29 September 2012 22:35, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >> Here is the PyCon US 2012 survey form - >>> >> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pycon2012 >>> >> >> >>> >> >> ---- >>> >> >> Bibhas >>> >> >> http://bibhas.in >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On 29 September 2012 22:25, Bibhas Ch Debnath >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Yes. Google Docs would do I think. Surveymonkey or similar >>> services >>> >> >>> are >>> >> >>> too restricted for free services. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> ---- >>> >> >>> Bibhas >>> >> >>> http://bibhas.in >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> On 29 September 2012 22:16, Noufal Ibrahim < >>> noufal at nibrahim.net.in> >>> >> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> I was speaking to Yannick earlier in the night and he suggested >>> >> >>>> sending >>> >> >>>> out a link to an exit survey to all the participants. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> Feedback on the talks and tutorials, general comments and perhaps >>> >> >>>> even >>> >> >>>> some demographic data ("are you a student/ professional etc."). >>> This >>> >> >>>> expressed as a percentage is useful data for future sponsorships. >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> It's possible to set something up like this using google docs or >>> >> >>>> surveymonkey isn't it? >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> >>> >> >>>> -- >>> >> >>>> Cordially, >>> >> >>>> Noufal >>> >> >>>> http://nibrahim.net.in >>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >>>> Inpycon mailing list >>> >> >>>> Inpycon at python.org >>> >> >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> >> > Inpycon mailing list >>> >> > Inpycon at python.org >>> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Inpycon mailing list >>> >> Inpycon at python.org >>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Inpycon mailing list >>> > Inpycon at python.org >>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing listInpycon at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > -- > Thanks & Regards > Kracekumar.R > "Talk is cheap, show me the code." -- Linus Torvalds > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abpillai at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 07:47:53 2012 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand B Pillai) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:17:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87lifsvktm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A761A.5040902@kracekumar.com> Message-ID: Hi Bibhas, On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > Changed it to - "Thank you for being part of PyCon India 2012. In case you > would like to help improve PyCon India 2013, subscribe to the official > mailing list at http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon. We wish > to see you next time. :)" > > Thanks. I will take care of this. > ---- > Bibhas > http://bibhas.in > > > > On 2 October 2012 10:35, kracekumar wrote: > >> It would be nice if we add "Thank you for being part of pycon 2012 and >> see you next year. In case you would like to help us running pycon 2013 >> subscribe to the mailling inpycon address for latest update." >> >> Anand, >> >> I think it's time we send this out to the attendees. >> >> ---- >> Bibhas >> http://bibhas.in >> >> >> >> On 30 September 2012 12:22, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: >> >>> Here is a shortened url to send it out. http://goo.gl/grvVi >>> >>> ---- >>> Bibhas >>> http://bibhas.in >>> >>> >>> >>> On 29 September 2012 23:58, Anush Shetty wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:50 PM, Bibhas Ch Debnath >>>> wrote: >>>> > Find the comment inline. >>>> > >>>> > ---- >>>> > Bibhas >>>> > http://bibhas.in >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > On 29 September 2012 23:40, Anand Chitipothu >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> We should use "PyCon India" not "PyCon", that usually means US PyCon. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Yes. Will fix it. >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> Here is my suggested order. >>>> >> >>>> >> * What is your profession? >>>> >> * Student >>>> >> * Software Professional >>>> >> * Other >>>> >> >>>> >> * How many years of experience do you have Python? [is this >>>> required?] >>>> >> >>>> > We can just ask "Do you have any prior experience in Python?" >>>> > Anything more than that might not be convenient for them. >>>> > >>>> >> >>>> >> * Are you attending PyCon India conference for the first time? >>>> >> >>>> >> * How did you hear about PyCon India? >>>> >> >>>> >> * What days did you attend PyCon India? >>>> >> >>>> >> * How do you rate: >>>> >> * Keynotes >>>> >> * Talks >>>> >> * Internet Connectivity >>>> >> * Food >>>> >> * Venue >>>> >> * Overall experience of the conference >>>> >> >>>> >> * Are you thinking of attending PyCon India next year? >>>> >> >>>> >> * If you have any comments or suggestions to improve the event, >>>> please >>>> >> write here. >>>> >>>> It would have been awesome if you could display this on one of the >>>> touch screen monitors? >>>> >>>> - >>>> Anush >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >> Anand >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 11:23 PM, Bibhas Ch Debnath >>>> wrote: >>>> >> > I had nothing to do, so did this - >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFp5MlV0Vk5nODU2cXJZWDBSVFR1YWc6MQ >>>> >> > >>>> >> > ---- >>>> >> > Bibhas >>>> >> > http://bibhas.in >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > On 29 September 2012 22:35, Bibhas Ch Debnath >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> Here is the PyCon US 2012 survey form - >>>> >> >> https://www.surveymonkey.com/s/pycon2012 >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> ---- >>>> >> >> Bibhas >>>> >> >> http://bibhas.in >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> On 29 September 2012 22:25, Bibhas Ch Debnath >>>> wrote: >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> Yes. Google Docs would do I think. Surveymonkey or similar >>>> services >>>> >> >>> are >>>> >> >>> too restricted for free services. >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> ---- >>>> >> >>> Bibhas >>>> >> >>> http://bibhas.in >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> On 29 September 2012 22:16, Noufal Ibrahim < >>>> noufal at nibrahim.net.in> >>>> >> >>> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> I was speaking to Yannick earlier in the night and he suggested >>>> >> >>>> sending >>>> >> >>>> out a link to an exit survey to all the participants. >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> Feedback on the talks and tutorials, general comments and >>>> perhaps >>>> >> >>>> even >>>> >> >>>> some demographic data ("are you a student/ professional etc."). >>>> This >>>> >> >>>> expressed as a percentage is useful data for future >>>> sponsorships. >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> It's possible to set something up like this using google docs or >>>> >> >>>> surveymonkey isn't it? >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> >>>> >> >>>> -- >>>> >> >>>> Cordially, >>>> >> >>>> Noufal >>>> >> >>>> http://nibrahim.net.in >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> >>>> Inpycon mailing list >>>> >> >>>> Inpycon at python.org >>>> >> >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >>> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>>> >> > Inpycon mailing list >>>> >> > Inpycon at python.org >>>> >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>>> >> > >>>> >> _______________________________________________ >>>> >> Inpycon mailing list >>>> >> Inpycon at python.org >>>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Inpycon mailing list >>>> > Inpycon at python.org >>>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Inpycon mailing list >>>> Inpycon at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing listInpycon at python.orghttp://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks & Regards >> Kracekumar.R >> "Talk is cheap, show me the code." -- Linus Torvalds >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -- Regards, --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Tue Oct 2 07:56:08 2012 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 11:26:08 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: (Bibhas Ch Debnath's message of "Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:45:22 +0530") References: <87lifsvktm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A761A.5040902@kracekumar.com> Message-ID: <877gr9xvrb.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Bibhas Ch Debnath writes: > Changed it to - "Thank you for being part of PyCon India 2012. In case you > would like to help improve PyCon India 2013, subscribe to the official > mailing list at http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon. We wish to > see you next time. :)" Also, please add a note somewhere saying that responding to the survey is completely voluntary but it will give us actionable data that can be used to improve the quality of the conference. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From me at bibhas.in Tue Oct 2 08:08:20 2012 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 11:38:20 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: <877gr9xvrb.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87lifsvktm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A761A.5040902@kracekumar.com> <877gr9xvrb.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: I think we can mention that in the mail that we'll send out the link with. ---- Bibhas http://bibhas.in On 2 October 2012 11:26, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Bibhas Ch Debnath writes: > > > Changed it to - "Thank you for being part of PyCon India 2012. In case > you > > would like to help improve PyCon India 2013, subscribe to the official > > mailing list at http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon. We > wish to > > see you next time. :)" > > Also, please add a note somewhere saying that responding to the survey > is completely voluntary but it will give us actionable data that can be > used to improve the quality of the conference. > > [...] > > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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[...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From me at kracekumar.com Tue Oct 2 09:37:03 2012 From: me at kracekumar.com (kracekumar) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:07:03 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Collated feedback In-Reply-To: References: <87haqe62fm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <506A999F.5020805@kracekumar.com> It would be good if we send the feedback of the respective sessions to the speaker, saying "Topic: total +1, -1, -0 represented as charts" > Hi, > > First, congrats to the organisers of Pycon India, for pulling it > off, given that we had a late start this year, with the venue shifting > to Bangalore and all that. And we had really nice key note speakers. > Both the presentations were good. > > Thanks to Noufal for this mail. It is a nice summary of the over > all mood. I would like to add a few of my suggestions. > > On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> >> - OTOH, maybe it is sensible to avoid tutorials all together. 3 days is >> harrowing for everybody and the separate registrations and stuff makes >> it quite hard. >> > I would like to have tutorials(though I couldn't attend them > this year due to unavoidable reasons). This where people new to python > pick things up. But, here is what I would suggest. We should do the > CfP by around April, and announce the selected proposals by around > mid-July. We can use the intervening time to do rigorous rounds of > selection - including asking the presenter to show a non-trivial > working example of his talk(and it should not be picked from the > tool's tutorial page). This is just a suggestion > > > >> 5. Poor talk quality - This was by far the biggest complaint. Following >> are some suggestions. >> > This was felt by a lot of people. We felt that some of the > presenters were actually disinterested. May be their organisation > asked them to give a talk ? Again, talks should not be blind > theoretical data, picked from various web sites. These are a few > things that we should take into account. > > Probably, we need to ask people to upload their complete > material, including slides and code, and with more volunteers review > the content, at least a month before the event. I agree that we need a > lot more man power for this. But we will do our best. > >> - One hour is too long for a talk and gives people time to ramble. 30 >> minutes of talk plus 10 or 15 minutes of questions. If it takes more >> than that, it's covering too much. >> > May be like the US pycon, we can have longer sessions, in > which lengthy discussions can be organised. For eg., someone > explaining the ZTK may not be able to cover up a lot of things in a > diligent way within 1 hour. > >> - CFP and selection done *much* earlier with a larger review >> committee. Perhaps with multiple meetings of members (over IRC). We'll >> have to take into consideration the bio of the presenter and get a >> little brutal with selection. >> > Yes :) About April beginning, and close it by first week of May. > After selecting the proposals, allow uploads of presentation material > till middle of June. And do further checks on that ? Will that be > possible if we have an expert panel of volunteers ? > >> 6. Too tight a schedule - No sufficient gap between talk slots. >> >> - We should keep 5 (or even 10) minutes of "free time" between slots and >> mercilessly enforce this. >> > Yes, by the time we move out of a hall and get into the next, the > speaker has already finished the intent and purpose of the talk. > > Thanks again to the organisers for making it a good event. We will do > our best to improve the event further :) > -- Thanks & Regards Kracekumar.R "Talk is cheap, show me the code." -- Linus Torvalds From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Tue Oct 2 09:41:22 2012 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:11:22 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Collated feedback In-Reply-To: <506A999F.5020805@kracekumar.com> (kracekumar's message of "Tue, 02 Oct 2012 13:07:03 +0530") References: <87haqe62fm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A999F.5020805@kracekumar.com> Message-ID: <87d311uxr1.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Good idea. Who has the feedback sheets? kracekumar writes: > It would be good if we send the feedback of the respective sessions to > the speaker, saying "Topic: total +1, -1, -0 represented as charts" > >> Hi, >> >> First, congrats to the organisers of Pycon India, for pulling it >> off, given that we had a late start this year, with the venue shifting >> to Bangalore and all that. And we had really nice key note speakers. >> Both the presentations were good. >> >> Thanks to Noufal for this mail. It is a nice summary of the over >> all mood. I would like to add a few of my suggestions. >> >> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >>> >>> - OTOH, maybe it is sensible to avoid tutorials all together. 3 days is >>> harrowing for everybody and the separate registrations and stuff makes >>> it quite hard. >>> >> I would like to have tutorials(though I couldn't attend them >> this year due to unavoidable reasons). This where people new to python >> pick things up. But, here is what I would suggest. We should do the >> CfP by around April, and announce the selected proposals by around >> mid-July. We can use the intervening time to do rigorous rounds of >> selection - including asking the presenter to show a non-trivial >> working example of his talk(and it should not be picked from the >> tool's tutorial page). This is just a suggestion >> >> >> >>> 5. Poor talk quality - This was by far the biggest complaint. Following >>> are some suggestions. >>> >> This was felt by a lot of people. We felt that some of the >> presenters were actually disinterested. May be their organisation >> asked them to give a talk ? Again, talks should not be blind >> theoretical data, picked from various web sites. These are a few >> things that we should take into account. >> >> Probably, we need to ask people to upload their complete >> material, including slides and code, and with more volunteers review >> the content, at least a month before the event. I agree that we need a >> lot more man power for this. But we will do our best. >> >>> - One hour is too long for a talk and gives people time to ramble. 30 >>> minutes of talk plus 10 or 15 minutes of questions. If it takes more >>> than that, it's covering too much. >>> >> May be like the US pycon, we can have longer sessions, in >> which lengthy discussions can be organised. For eg., someone >> explaining the ZTK may not be able to cover up a lot of things in a >> diligent way within 1 hour. >> >>> - CFP and selection done *much* earlier with a larger review >>> committee. Perhaps with multiple meetings of members (over IRC). We'll >>> have to take into consideration the bio of the presenter and get a >>> little brutal with selection. >>> >> Yes :) About April beginning, and close it by first week of May. >> After selecting the proposals, allow uploads of presentation material >> till middle of June. And do further checks on that ? Will that be >> possible if we have an expert panel of volunteers ? >> >>> 6. Too tight a schedule - No sufficient gap between talk slots. >>> >>> - We should keep 5 (or even 10) minutes of "free time" between slots and >>> mercilessly enforce this. >>> >> Yes, by the time we move out of a hall and get into the next, the >> speaker has already finished the intent and purpose of the talk. >> >> Thanks again to the organisers for making it a good event. We will do >> our best to improve the event further :) >> -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 2 09:42:31 2012 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:42:31 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] Collated feedback In-Reply-To: <87d311uxr1.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87haqe62fm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A999F.5020805@kracekumar.com> <87d311uxr1.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <1349163751.77115.YahooMailNeo@web192206.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Anand C has the sheets ________________________________ From: Noufal Ibrahim To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Collated feedback Good idea. Who has the feedback sheets? kracekumar writes: > It would be good if we send the feedback of the respective sessions to > the speaker, saying "Topic: total +1, -1, -0 represented as charts" > >> Hi, >> >>? ? ? First, congrats to the organisers of Pycon India, for pulling it >> off, given that we had a late start this year, with the venue shifting >> to Bangalore and all that. And we had really nice key note speakers. >> Both the presentations were good. >> >>? ? ? Thanks to Noufal for this mail. It is a nice summary of the over >> all mood. I would like to add a few of my suggestions. >> >> On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >>> >>> - OTOH, maybe it is sensible to avoid tutorials all together. 3 days is >>>? ? harrowing for everybody and the separate registrations and stuff makes >>>? ? it quite hard. >>> >>? ? ? ? ? I would like to have tutorials(though I couldn't attend them >> this year due to unavoidable reasons). This where people new to python >> pick things up. But, here is what I would suggest. We should do the >> CfP by around April, and announce the selected proposals by around >> mid-July. We can use the? intervening time to do rigorous rounds of >> selection - including asking the presenter to show a non-trivial >> working example of his talk(and it should not be picked from the >> tool's tutorial page). This is just a suggestion >> >> >> >>> 5. Poor talk quality - This was by far the biggest complaint. Following >>>? ? are some suggestions. >>> >>? ? ? ? This was felt by a lot of people. We felt that some of the >> presenters were actually disinterested. May be their organisation >> asked them to give a talk ? Again, talks should not be blind >> theoretical data, picked from various web sites. These are a few >> things that we should take into account. >> >>? ? ? ? Probably, we need to ask people to upload their complete >> material, including slides and code, and with more volunteers review >> the content, at least a month before the event. I agree that we need a >> lot more man power for this. But we will do our best. >> >>> - One hour is too long for a talk and gives people time to ramble. 30 >>>? ? minutes of talk plus 10 or 15 minutes of questions. If it takes more >>>? ? than that, it's covering too much. >>> >>? ? ? ? ? May be like the US pycon, we can have longer sessions, in >> which lengthy discussions can be organised. For eg., someone >> explaining the ZTK may not be able to cover up a lot of things in a >> diligent way within 1 hour. >> >>> - CFP and selection done *much* earlier with a larger review >>>? ? committee. Perhaps with multiple meetings of members (over IRC). We'll >>>? ? have to take into consideration the bio of the presenter and get a >>>? ? little brutal with selection. >>> >>? ? ? Yes :) About April beginning, and close it by first week of May. >> After selecting the proposals, allow uploads of presentation material >> till middle of June. And do further checks on that ? Will that be >> possible if we have an expert panel of volunteers ? >> >>> 6. Too tight a schedule - No sufficient gap between talk slots. >>> >>> - We should keep 5 (or even 10) minutes of "free time" between slots and >>>? ? mercilessly enforce this. >>> >>? ? ? Yes, by the time we move out of a hall and get into the next, the >> speaker has already finished the intent and purpose of the talk. >> >> Thanks again to the organisers for making it a good event. We will do >> our best to improve the event further :) >> -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Make a git wiki maybe? > > > ---- > Bibhas > http://bibhas.in > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > From anandology at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 10:29:17 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 13:59:17 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Collated feedback In-Reply-To: <1349163751.77115.YahooMailNeo@web192206.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> References: <87haqe62fm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A999F.5020805@kracekumar.com> <87d311uxr1.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <1349163751.77115.YahooMailNeo@web192206.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, vijay wrote: > Anand C has the sheets Devi is summarizing them. She'll send the summary once it is done. Anand From anandology at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 10:36:15 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:06:15 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87lifsvktm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A761A.5040902@kracekumar.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > Changed it to - "Thank you for being part of PyCon India 2012. In case you > would like to help improve PyCon India 2013, subscribe to the official > mailing list at http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon. We wish to > see you next time. :)" I still see "Thank you for coming to PyCon India 2012. Your feedback and opinions are valuable in helping us improve PyCon India every year.". Can you please check again? Anand From me at bibhas.in Tue Oct 2 10:39:59 2012 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:09:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87lifsvktm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A761A.5040902@kracekumar.com> Message-ID: Just did. And the change is showing. http://i.imgur.com/g0GqP.png ---- Bibhas http://bibhas.in On 2 October 2012 14:06, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > > Changed it to - "Thank you for being part of PyCon India 2012. In case > you > > would like to help improve PyCon India 2013, subscribe to the official > > mailing list at http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon. We > wish to > > see you next time. :)" > > I still see "Thank you for coming to PyCon India 2012. Your feedback > and opinions are valuable in helping us improve PyCon India every > year.". > > Can you please check again? > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 2 10:49:16 2012 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:49:16 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87lifsvktm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A761A.5040902@kracekumar.com> Message-ID: <1349167756.1619.YahooMailNeo@web192204.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> When i click link it say? 403 - Forbidden ________________________________ From: Bibhas Ch Debnath To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012 2:09 PM Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Exit survey Just did. And the change is showing.?http://i.imgur.com/g0GqP.png ---- Bibhas? http://bibhas.in On 2 October 2012 14:06, Anand Chitipothu wrote: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: >> Changed it to - "Thank you for being part of PyCon India 2012. In case you >> would like to help improve PyCon India 2013, subscribe to the official >> mailing list at http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon. We wish to >> see you next time. :)" > >I still see "Thank you for coming to PyCon India 2012. Your feedback >and opinions are valuable in helping us improve PyCon India every >year.". > >Can you please check again? > >Anand > >_______________________________________________ >Inpycon mailing list >Inpycon at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at bibhas.in Tue Oct 2 10:53:58 2012 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:23:58 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: <1349167756.1619.YahooMailNeo@web192204.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> References: <87lifsvktm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A761A.5040902@kracekumar.com> <1349167756.1619.YahooMailNeo@web192204.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Which link? ---- Bibhas http://bibhas.in On 2 October 2012 14:19, vijay wrote: > When i click link it say > 403 - Forbidden > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Bibhas Ch Debnath > *To:* Mailing list for the PyCon India conference > *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 October 2012 2:09 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Inpycon] Exit survey > > Just did. And the change is showing. http://i.imgur.com/g0GqP.png > > > ---- > Bibhas > http://bibhas.in > > > > On 2 October 2012 14:06, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > > Changed it to - "Thank you for being part of PyCon India 2012. In case > you > > would like to help improve PyCon India 2013, subscribe to the official > > mailing list at http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon. We > wish to > > see you next time. :)" > > I still see "Thank you for coming to PyCon India 2012. Your feedback > and opinions are valuable in helping us improve PyCon India every > year.". > > Can you please check again? > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 11:01:07 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 14:31:07 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India Message-ID: Hello everyone, I think it is be a good idea to meet once and do a post mortem of PyCon India 2012 and think about how to improve the event next year. Shall we meet for dinner on Thursday evening? If you are interested to be part of event next year, please join. This is not a sponsored dinner, we'll go dutch. We'll post the minutes of the meeting in this mailing list, so that the people who can't attend the dinner can join the discussion. I suggest Koshis on St. Marks Road. Do you have any other suggestions? Anand From abdulmuneer at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 11:48:07 2012 From: abdulmuneer at gmail.com (Abdul Muneer) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:18:07 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Anand, Getting there on a weekday is difficult after coming from office. Can we conduct it on a weekend? Regards, Abdul Muneer -- Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I think it is be a good idea to meet once and do a post mortem of > PyCon India 2012 and think about how to improve the event next year. > > Shall we meet for dinner on Thursday evening? If you are interested to > be part of event next year, please join. > > This is not a sponsored dinner, we'll go dutch. > > We'll post the minutes of the meeting in this mailing list, so that > the people who can't attend the dinner can join the discussion. > > I suggest Koshis on St. Marks Road. Do you have any other suggestions? > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 12:04:23 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:34:23 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm not in town this weekend. Even if I'm in, we may not be able to meet because of the karnataka Bundh. The other possibility is meeting on the next weekend, which I think is too late. Anand On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Abdul Muneer wrote: > Anand, > Getting there on a weekday is difficult after coming from office. Can we > conduct it on a weekend? > Regards, > Abdul Muneer > > -- > Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> I think it is be a good idea to meet once and do a post mortem of >> PyCon India 2012 and think about how to improve the event next year. >> >> Shall we meet for dinner on Thursday evening? If you are interested to >> be part of event next year, please join. >> >> This is not a sponsored dinner, we'll go dutch. >> >> We'll post the minutes of the meeting in this mailing list, so that >> the people who can't attend the dinner can join the discussion. >> >> I suggest Koshis on St. Marks Road. Do you have any other suggestions? >> >> Anand >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > From anandology at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 12:52:59 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:22:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87lifsvktm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A761A.5040902@kracekumar.com> <877gr9xvrb.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > I think we can mention that in the mail that we'll send out the link with. Can you draft an email to send to all the participants? I can send it to all participants using doattend interface. Anand From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Tue Oct 2 14:12:33 2012 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 20:12:33 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1349179953.38911.YahooMailNeo@web192202.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> +1 ?for any days but?would like to see more people coming in if it even delayed by week . ________________________________ From: Anand Chitipothu To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Sent: Tuesday, 2 October 2012 3:34 PM Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India I'm not in town this weekend. Even if I'm in, we may not be able to meet because of the karnataka Bundh. The other possibility is meeting on the next weekend, which I think is too late. Anand On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Abdul Muneer wrote: > Anand, > Getting there on a weekday is difficult after coming from office. Can we > conduct it on a weekend? > Regards, > Abdul Muneer > > -- > Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> I think it is be a good idea to meet once and do a post mortem of >> PyCon India 2012 and think about how to improve the event next year. >> >> Shall we meet for dinner on Thursday evening? If you are interested to >> be part of event next year, please join. >> >> This is not a sponsored dinner, we'll go dutch. >> >> We'll post the minutes of the meeting in this mailing list, so that >> the people who can't attend the dinner can join the discussion. >> >> I suggest Koshis on St. Marks Road. Do you have any other suggestions? >> >> Anand >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From abdulmuneer at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 14:51:38 2012 From: abdulmuneer at gmail.com (Abdul Muneer) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 18:21:38 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India In-Reply-To: <1349179953.38911.YahooMailNeo@web192202.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> References: <1349179953.38911.YahooMailNeo@web192202.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ouch.. didn't know abt the state bandh. It is important to kickstart things before we lose the momentum from this pycon. Two weeks and it may get delayed again. Let's start with whatever strength we have. We should be having frequent meetings anyway, so people can start joining in the later sessions also. Regards, Abdul Muneer -- Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:42 PM, vijay wrote: > +1 for any days but would like to see more people coming in if it even > delayed by week . > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Anand Chitipothu > *To:* Mailing list for the PyCon India conference > *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 October 2012 3:34 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India > > I'm not in town this weekend. Even if I'm in, we may not be able to > meet because of the karnataka Bundh. The other possibility is meeting > on the next weekend, which I think is too late. > > Anand > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Abdul Muneer > wrote: > > Anand, > > Getting there on a weekday is difficult after coming from office. Can we > > conduct it on a weekend? > > Regards, > > Abdul Muneer > > > > -- > > Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Anand Chitipothu > > wrote: > >> > >> Hello everyone, > >> > >> I think it is be a good idea to meet once and do a post mortem of > >> PyCon India 2012 and think about how to improve the event next year. > >> > >> Shall we meet for dinner on Thursday evening? If you are interested to > >> be part of event next year, please join. > >> > >> This is not a sponsored dinner, we'll go dutch. > >> > >> We'll post the minutes of the meeting in this mailing list, so that > >> the people who can't attend the dinner can join the discussion. > >> > >> I suggest Koshis on St. Marks Road. 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URL: From sateeshpyper at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 17:00:59 2012 From: sateeshpyper at gmail.com (Sateesh Kumar) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 20:30:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87lifsvktm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A761A.5040902@kracekumar.com> <877gr9xvrb.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Would it be good to get feedback about the tutorials also. Probably the survey needs to have the below question under the section "Please Rate.. " Your overall satisfaction with the tutorials. That would also mean providing an additional optional 'N/A' for this question. Or there can be an optional question requesting feedback about tutorials. Hope I am not late with my feedback. thanks, sateesh From sshabinesh at gmail.com Tue Oct 2 18:16:30 2012 From: sshabinesh at gmail.com (sshabinesh at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 21:46:30 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India In-Reply-To: References: <1349179953.38911.YahooMailNeo@web192202.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think it's okay to take it on a weekend if we find more people joining. It's difficult to come after office hours, atleast for me it takes around 9 pm to get out of work. On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 6:21 PM, Abdul Muneer wrote: > ouch.. didn't know abt the state bandh. It is important to kickstart > things before we lose the momentum from this pycon. Two weeks and it may > get delayed again. Let's start with whatever strength we have. We should be > having frequent meetings anyway, so people can start joining in the later > sessions also. > > Regards, > Abdul Muneer > > -- > Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:42 PM, vijay wrote: > >> +1 for any days but would like to see more people coming in if it even >> delayed by week . >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Anand Chitipothu >> *To:* Mailing list for the PyCon India conference >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 October 2012 3:34 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India >> >> I'm not in town this weekend. Even if I'm in, we may not be able to >> meet because of the karnataka Bundh. The other possibility is meeting >> on the next weekend, which I think is too late. >> >> Anand >> >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Abdul Muneer >> wrote: >> > Anand, >> > Getting there on a weekday is difficult after coming from office. Can we >> > conduct it on a weekend? >> > Regards, >> > Abdul Muneer >> > >> > -- >> > Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Anand Chitipothu >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> >> I think it is be a good idea to meet once and do a post mortem of >> >> PyCon India 2012 and think about how to improve the event next year. >> >> >> >> Shall we meet for dinner on Thursday evening? If you are interested to >> >> be part of event next year, please join. >> >> >> >> This is not a sponsored dinner, we'll go dutch. >> >> >> >> We'll post the minutes of the meeting in this mailing list, so that >> >> the people who can't attend the dinner can join the discussion. >> >> >> >> I suggest Koshis on St. Marks Road. 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I'm sure most of us will just want to decompress for a few months before *doing* anything again. The agenda is to get all the stuff that's fresh in our heads and make them actionable so that there are no (or atleast less) screw ups next year. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 01:24:51 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 04:54:51 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Collated feedback In-Reply-To: References: <87haqe62fm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A999F.5020805@kracekumar.com> <87d311uxr1.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <1349163751.77115.YahooMailNeo@web192206.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, vijay wrote: >> Anand C has the sheets > > Devi is summarizing them. She'll send the summary once it is done. She sent me the summary as a google speadsheet. I've shared it will all the volunteers. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9y2J6xzo5CdEZxeVpRQXpLWE50SjlOU3lOdy1TT0E#gid=1 We can let each speaker know about their feedback. I'm not sure if we should make the feedback public. what do you think? Anand From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Wed Oct 3 05:09:24 2012 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 08:39:24 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Collated feedback In-Reply-To: (Anand Chitipothu's message of "Wed, 3 Oct 2012 04:54:51 +0530") References: <87haqe62fm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A999F.5020805@kracekumar.com> <87d311uxr1.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <1349163751.77115.YahooMailNeo@web192206.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <874nmctfob.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Anand Chitipothu writes: > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, vijay wrote: >>> Anand C has the sheets >> >> Devi is summarizing them. She'll send the summary once it is done. > > She sent me the summary as a google speadsheet. I've shared it will > all the volunteers. > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9y2J6xzo5CdEZxeVpRQXpLWE50SjlOU3lOdy1TT0E#gid=1 > > We can let each speaker know about their feedback. I'm not sure if we > should make the feedback public. > > what do you think? It is anonymised so I don't think it's necessary to make it super confidential. If we can plot of a graph of this and simply send it out to all the speakers (similar to what hasgeek did), it should be fine. *We* need to keep this with us as background information to evaluate speakers in the future. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From sree at mahiti.org Wed Oct 3 05:47:27 2012 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:17:27 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2 October 2012 14:31, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Shall we meet for dinner on Thursday evening? If you are interested to > be part of event next year, please join. > +1. Will be there. - sree -- Sreekanth S Rameshaiah Executive Director Mahiti Infotech Pvt. Ltd. Bangalore, India - 560043 Phone: +91 80 3094 9393 Mobile: +91 98455 12611 www.mahiti.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 07:53:11 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:23:11 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Collated feedback In-Reply-To: <874nmctfob.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87haqe62fm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A999F.5020805@kracekumar.com> <87d311uxr1.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <1349163751.77115.YahooMailNeo@web192206.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <874nmctfob.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Anand Chitipothu writes: > >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, vijay wrote: >>>> Anand C has the sheets >>> >>> Devi is summarizing them. She'll send the summary once it is done. >> >> She sent me the summary as a google speadsheet. I've shared it will >> all the volunteers. >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9y2J6xzo5CdEZxeVpRQXpLWE50SjlOU3lOdy1TT0E#gid=1 >> >> We can let each speaker know about their feedback. I'm not sure if we >> should make the feedback public. >> >> what do you think? > > It is anonymised so I don't think it's necessary to make it super > confidential. If we can plot of a graph of this and simply send it out > to all the speakers (similar to what hasgeek did), it should be fine. sounds good. PDF: http://in.pycon.org/2012/static/pyconindia2012-feedbackform-summary.pdf XLS: http://in.pycon.org/2012/static/pyconindia2012-feedbackform-summary.xlsx > *We* need to keep this with us as background information to evaluate > speakers in the future. I've added it to the shared PyConIndia2012 Google docs folder. Anand From anandology at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 07:58:17 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:28:17 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India In-Reply-To: <87lifou8kf.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <1349179953.38911.YahooMailNeo@web192202.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <87lifou8kf.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Abdul Muneer writes: > >> ouch.. didn't know abt the state bandh. It is important to kickstart >> things before we lose the momentum from this pycon. Two weeks and it >> may get delayed again. Let's start with whatever strength we have. We >> should be having frequent meetings anyway, so people can start joining >> in the later sessions also. > > I don't expect any action till early 2013. One meeting for the post > mortem and an overall idea of what needs to be done. > > Anand will testify to how much of a strain something like this is. I'm > sure most of us will just want to decompress for a few months before > *doing* anything again. > > The agenda is to get all the stuff that's fresh in our heads and make > them actionable so that there are no (or atleast less) screw ups next > year. Yes, it is important to meet while the stuff is in our heads. We'll forget many things if we delay. Lets meet on Thursday evening. If there are no suggestions for a better place, we are meeting at Koshy's at 7:30PM on Thursday. Anand From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Wed Oct 3 08:08:35 2012 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 14:08:35 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] Collated feedback In-Reply-To: References: <87haqe62fm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A999F.5020805@kracekumar.com> <87d311uxr1.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <1349163751.77115.YahooMailNeo@web192206.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <874nmctfob.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <1349244515.99752.YahooMailNeo@web192203.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Just added Graph to summarize . ________________________________ From: Anand Chitipothu To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Collated feedback On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 8:39 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Anand Chitipothu writes: > >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >>> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, vijay wrote: >>>> Anand C has the sheets >>> >>> Devi is summarizing them. She'll send the summary once it is done. >> >> She sent me the summary as a google speadsheet. I've shared it will >> all the volunteers. >> >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ap9y2J6xzo5CdEZxeVpRQXpLWE50SjlOU3lOdy1TT0E#gid=1 >> >> We can let each speaker know about their feedback. I'm not sure if we >> should make the feedback public. >> >> what do you think? > > It is anonymised so I don't think it's necessary to make it super > confidential. If we can plot of a graph of this and simply send it out > to all the speakers (similar to what hasgeek did), it should be fine. sounds good. PDF: http://in.pycon.org/2012/static/pyconindia2012-feedbackform-summary.pdf XLS: http://in.pycon.org/2012/static/pyconindia2012-feedbackform-summary.xlsx > *We* need to keep this with us as background information to evaluate > speakers in the future. I've added it to the shared PyConIndia2012 Google docs folder. 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I'm making a note of all the stuff I get and > will bring it up at the AGM today afternoon. > > Also, I think if we plan sufficiently in advance, we can take care of > the issues you've mentioned reasonably well. > > Abdul Muneer writes: > >> Hi, >> I came to pycon with the expectation and excitement that this is going to >> be the best pycon so far. Even though there is one more day of the >> conference to be over, it doesn't look like that is the case. I haven't >> been able to make any contribution to organizing this python, perhaps >> considering myself not to be of any match to the vast talent and >> enthusiasts we have. But still I have deep love for Python and seeing how >> this event has turned out, I feel a frustration that it could have been a >> lot better. >> >> Here is a listing of my general feedback, focusing on the negatives: >> >> *1) Tutorial quality sucked big time* >> >> - *Tutorials require more skill and preparation than a conf talk. Few >> had it.. >> * >> - *The stress in tutorials is for learning and it should not be >> compromised at_any_cost.* >> >> How do we do it? >> Accept proposals only from those who are known to be good presenters. >> Perhaps they should have presented a couple of talks in other events. >> And/Or pull in great people whom we know and get them conduct few sessions. >> >> One session that I attended was so much boring that people will leave that >> session with their love for that topic diminished. This is in spite of that >> person having tons of experience in that field. >> >> We do not want such people in tutorial. They can present a conf talk on >> some work they have done, but not a tutorial session. >> >> But in contrast when another similarly experienced person took a session on >> basics of Python, it was admirable and people clapped with appreciation. We >> want more of such people.* >> >> * >> *2) Setup was embarrassing. >> * >> >> - *Internet* >> >> >> - *AV setup* >> >> >> 1. Just how many times did the default mic work perfectly? Either issues >> with volume, or feedbacks, or they may have to change to hand mics etc.. >> 2. Issues with connecting laptop to projector >> 3. Power failure/ display going blind.. happened in Nick's talk on >> python 3.3* >> * >> >> >> - *Acoustics* >> >> >> 1. The halls and classrooms had echo.* >> * >> >> *3) Talks* >> >> - *Should be charming.* >> >> On Day 1 I could attend an awesome session on "Automated data analysis with >> Python" by Anand S. Wish all talks were that charming as against a) just >> reading out the slide or b) just typing the code and speak out what he is >> typing. >> >> 4) *Tight schedules* >> >> Where is the time for lightning talks, hallway chats? Perhaps we should >> have just 3 parrallel classes and 1.5 hour per sessions. One class always >> should be in the main hall. >> >> e.g.: Python 3.3 features were not covered in one hour as time was >> insufficient. Some other speaker felt one hour is too short to tell >> anything meaningful in his topic so he ended his talk in half an hour or >> so. I think the schedule was fixed after the topic was submitted. Probably >> we should fix a format up front so that those who plan to submit anything >> can plan around that. >> >> The general feeling that I have can be summed up in one sentence - "I am >> not getting what I have been promised". We had superstars like Jacob, >> David, Nick. We had a handsome list of sponsors. But did the conference >> raise to expected high level? It hurts when young people like fresh >> graduates working in startups, people from other languages who are curious >> to python etc leave with disappointment. >> >> Last year was my first PyCon and that was an exciting experience. The >> keynote address was a rockstar performance from Raymond the speeches were >> good in general. My excitement made me pull in my wife, brother and friends >> to this year's pycon. I am already receiving the flak. Let's hope Day 2 >> will make up for all these. >> >> We know the effort the organizers put behind. You guys have pulled it off >> to this level from the brim of getting cancelled altogether. That is a >> tremendous work. But as hard as we worked, there were still a lot work that >> were not done. Let's start today itself and prepare for an awesome, >> admirable event next year. >> >> >> Regards, >> Abdul Muneer >> >> -- >> Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 10:44:44 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 14:14:44 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2012: "I am not getting what I have been promised" In-Reply-To: <87wqz8q7ik.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <874nmguiq8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87wqz8q7ik.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Atul Chitnis has a blog post about the rather stringent speaker > screening process for foss.in. I think there are things there which we > can import > > http://atulchitnis.net/2012/are-you-a-foss-in-speaker/ Yes, we should be very strict about screening process next year. We should make the first timers present their talk at a local usergroup meeting if they are first time speakers. If it is a tutorial, we should only allow experienced speakers. They should have proven experience of delivering such tutorial already. They try giving the tutorial at a usergroup meeting or a college if they are not very experienced. Since we are paying a honorarium for tutorial speakers, we should make sure they are very very good quality. Anand From kushaldas at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 11:13:53 2012 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 14:43:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Collated feedback In-Reply-To: References: <87haqe62fm.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <506A999F.5020805@kracekumar.com> <87d311uxr1.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <1349163751.77115.YahooMailNeo@web192206.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <874nmctfob.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >> It is anonymised so I don't think it's necessary to make it super >> confidential. If we can plot of a graph of this and simply send it out >> to all the speakers (similar to what hasgeek did), it should be fine. > > sounds good. > > PDF: http://in.pycon.org/2012/static/pyconindia2012-feedbackform-summary.pdf > XLS: http://in.pycon.org/2012/static/pyconindia2012-feedbackform-summary.xlsx According to the PDF "Supreet Sethi"'s topic was "Nick Coghlan" :p Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Wed Oct 3 11:14:12 2012 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2012 14:44:12 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India 2012: "I am not getting what I have been promised" In-Reply-To: (Anand Chitipothu's message of "Wed, 3 Oct 2012 14:14:44 +0530") References: <874nmguiq8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <87wqz8q7ik.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <87r4pfrk7v.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Anand Chitipothu writes: [...] > Yes, we should be very strict about screening process next year. We > should make the first timers present their talk at a local usergroup > meeting if they are first time speakers. > > If it is a tutorial, we should only allow experienced speakers. They > should have proven experience of delivering such tutorial already. > They try giving the tutorial at a usergroup meeting or a college if > they are not very experienced. > > Since we are paying a honorarium for tutorial speakers, we should make > sure they are very very good quality. [...] The downside is that we might miss many potentially good speakers who are annoyed with the overly strict rules and will make enemies. However, I think that's a fair price to pay if the overall speaker quality improves. The attendees will benefit. -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From abhaya.agarwal at gmail.com Wed Oct 3 12:18:27 2012 From: abhaya.agarwal at gmail.com (Abhaya Agarwal) Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 15:48:27 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Inpycon Digest, Vol 40, Issue 10 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi, Yes, we should be very strict about screening process next year. We > should make the first timers present their talk at a local usergroup > meeting if they are first time speakers. > One thing I found heartening is college students giving talks in PyCon. I think it is wonderful, both for them as well as the Python community. However, it is also true that some of those talks are quite weak and not suitable for a paid conference. The solution can be to create a separate student (or beginner) track with smaller talk durations. These talks can be 15 minute slots. This retains the space for novice participation but also makes a clear distinction for those attending. 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One for the seasoned speakers, and the other for new speakers we can ask about preparing a small screencast of what they are planning to talk about ? -- Dhruv Baldawa (http://www.dhruvb.com) On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Anand Chitipothu writes: > > > [...] > > > Yes, we should be very strict about screening process next year. We > > should make the first timers present their talk at a local usergroup > > meeting if they are first time speakers. > > > > If it is a tutorial, we should only allow experienced speakers. They > > should have proven experience of delivering such tutorial already. > > They try giving the tutorial at a usergroup meeting or a college if > > they are not very experienced. > > > > Since we are paying a honorarium for tutorial speakers, we should make > > sure they are very very good quality. > > [...] > > The downside is that we might miss many potentially good speakers who > are annoyed with the overly strict rules and will make enemies. However, > I think that's a fair price to pay if the overall speaker quality > improves. The attendees will benefit. > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I > think it is wonderful, both for them as well as the Python community. > +1, that is really good. > > However, it is also true that some of those talks are quite weak and not > suitable for a paid conference. > > The solution can be to create a separate student (or beginner) track with > smaller talk durations. These talks can be 15 minute slots. This retains > the space for novice participation but also makes a clear distinction for > those attending. Student tracks are a common feature in many top technical > conferences. > > Just a thought. > > Regards, > Abhaya > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We >> should be having frequent meetings anyway, so people can start joining >> in the later sessions also. > > I don't expect any action till early 2013. One meeting for the post > mortem and an overall idea of what needs to be done. > > Anand will testify to how much of a strain something like this is. I'm > sure most of us will just want to decompress for a few months before > *doing* anything again. > > The agenda is to get all the stuff that's fresh in our heads and make > them actionable so that there are no (or atleast less) screw ups next > year. Yes, it is important to meet while the stuff is in our heads. We'll forget many things if we delay. Lets meet on Thursday evening. If there are no suggestions for a better place, we are meeting at Koshy's at 7:30PM on Thursday. Anand _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Thu Oct 4 13:27:14 2012 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 16:57:14 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India In-Reply-To: <1349349049.26665.YahooMailNeo@web192204.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> (vijay's message of "Thu, 4 Oct 2012 19:10:49 +0800 (SGT)") References: <1349179953.38911.YahooMailNeo@web192202.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <87lifou8kf.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <1349349049.26665.YahooMailNeo@web192204.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <87391uo4tp.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Let's fix it at Koshi's itself. It's just 2.5 hours away. People might have made plans. Can everyone coming please mail back? Just to get an idea in case someone gets to the venue early and wants to reserve room. vijay writes: > How about Jaisalmer (Nahars Heritage Hotel) > > > http://eveningflavors.com/Jaisalmer/Bangalore/10073/? > > > > ________________________________ > From: Anand Chitipothu > To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> Abdul Muneer writes: >> >>> ouch.. didn't know abt the state bandh. It is important to kickstart >>> things before we lose the momentum from this pycon. Two weeks and it >>> may get delayed again. Let's start with whatever strength we have. We >>> should be having frequent meetings anyway, so people can start joining >>> in the later sessions also. >> >> I don't expect any action till early 2013. One meeting for the post >> mortem and an overall idea of what needs to be done. >> >> Anand will testify to how much of a strain something like this is. I'm >> sure most of us will just want to decompress for a few months before >> *doing* anything again. >> >> The agenda is to get all the stuff that's fresh in our heads and make >> them actionable so that there are no (or atleast less) screw ups next >> year. > > Yes, it is important to meet while the stuff is in our heads. We'll > forget many things if we delay. > > Lets meet on Thursday evening. > > If there are no suggestions for a better place, we are meeting at > Koshy's at 7:30PM on Thursday. > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon_______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From sree at mahiti.org Thu Oct 4 13:58:42 2012 From: sree at mahiti.org (Sreekanth S Rameshaiah) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:28:42 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India In-Reply-To: <87391uo4tp.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <1349179953.38911.YahooMailNeo@web192202.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <87lifou8kf.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <1349349049.26665.YahooMailNeo@web192204.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <87391uo4tp.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On 4 October 2012 16:57, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Let's fix it at Koshi's itself. It's just 2.5 hours away. People might > have made plans. +1 Sree. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From me at kracekumar.com Thu Oct 4 14:01:09 2012 From: me at kracekumar.com (kracekumar) Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:31:09 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India In-Reply-To: References: <1349179953.38911.YahooMailNeo@web192202.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <87lifou8kf.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <1349349049.26665.YahooMailNeo@web192204.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <87391uo4tp.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <506D7A85.8020607@kracekumar.com> I am coming > > > On 4 October 2012 16:57, Noufal Ibrahim > wrote: > > > Let's fix it at Koshi's itself. It's just 2.5 hours away. People might > have made plans. > > > +1 > > Sree. > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Thanks & Regards Kracekumar.R "Talk is cheap, show me the code." -- Linus Torvalds -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Just to get an idea in case someone gets to the venue early and wants to reserve room. vijay writes: > How about Jaisalmer (Nahars Heritage Hotel) > > > http://eveningflavors.com/Jaisalmer/Bangalore/10073/? > > > > ________________________________ >? From: Anand Chitipothu > To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference > Sent: Wednesday, 3 October 2012 11:28 AM > Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India >? > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:15 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> Abdul Muneer writes: >> >>> ouch.. didn't know abt the state bandh. It is important to kickstart >>> things before we lose the momentum from this pycon. Two weeks and it >>> may get delayed again. Let's start with whatever strength we have. We >>> should be having frequent meetings anyway, so people can start joining >>> in the later sessions also. >> >> I don't expect any action till early 2013. One meeting for the post >> mortem and an overall idea of what needs to be done. >> >> Anand will testify to how much of a strain something like this is. I'm >> sure most of us will just want to decompress for a few months before >> *doing* anything again. >> >> The agenda is to get all the stuff that's fresh in our heads and make >> them actionable so that there are no (or atleast less) screw ups next >> year. > > Yes, it is important to meet while the stuff is in our heads. We'll > forget many things if we delay. > > Lets meet on Thursday evening. > > If there are no suggestions for a better place, we are meeting at > Koshy's at 7:30PM on Thursday. > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon_______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From anandology at gmail.com Thu Oct 4 14:14:53 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:44:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Planning next PyCon India In-Reply-To: <87391uo4tp.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <1349179953.38911.YahooMailNeo@web192202.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <87lifou8kf.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> <1349349049.26665.YahooMailNeo@web192204.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> <87391uo4tp.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Let's fix it at Koshi's itself. It's just 2.5 hours away. People might > have made plans. > > Can everyone coming please mail back? Just to get an idea in case > someone gets to the venue early and wants to reserve room. I'll be there. Anand From me at kracekumar.com Fri Oct 5 08:22:01 2012 From: me at kracekumar.com (kracekumar) Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 11:52:01 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Minutes of meeting - 4th Oct, 2012 at Khosy In-Reply-To: <506DDF77.2010400@kracekumar.com> References: <506DDF77.2010400@kracekumar.com> Message-ID: <506E7C89.5000307@kracekumar.com> All, We had meeting in khosy's at 7:30 on 4th Oct, 2012 and had discussion about PyCon India 2013, during the discussion we forgot to order the soup :-(. Following people were present * Anand * Noufal * Vijay * Jnana Sagar * Sreekanth * Devi * Kracekumar Discussion was mainly focussed on selection process for talks, tutorials, how to engage student community, volunteers, venue, sponsorship amount etc ... * Minutes of the meeting * * Provide certificate to students/ volunteers. This may encourage students to attend tutorials & talks which can be latter produced in college for adjusting attendance of labs if required etc ... * Send Posters to college in 2 months advance. * Conduct Python workshop during college tech fest as part of spreading awareness of Python through IPSS. * Clearly mention in posters, PyCon India is pure volunteer effort and need volunteers. * Shortlist all possible venues in bangalore and compare the price. Venues can be private convention hall, 5 star hotel, College auditorium. * Deadline for venue finalisation is January. * Decide on the sponsor kit. * All volunteers who are coordinating speakers should have all speakers phone no, photo, twitter handle to contact them. * First timers are not allowed to present tutorials. * Process for selecting speakers has to be strict. First short list all speakers and provide two weeks of time for speakers to upload the presentation and finalise the talk. * Keep a separate volunteer to take care of lighting talks. * During tutorial day it should be assumed INTERNET is not reliable. Volunteers are supposed to handover few pen drives to speakers for distributing materials. * Expectation from volunteer is high, volunteer cannot attend any talks. * Special ticket price for students at early bird ticket. * If possible try to find Indian Keynote speaker, speaker needn't be Python contributor for example PyCon US 2012 keynote speaker was Paul Graham who is known for Y Combinator. * If sponsors company strength is less than 20, 50% discount will be given on sponsorship amount. * There is no hard slab in number of gold and silver sponsors. * Lanyards will have * only Python * logo. * Hat or t-shirt will be given to volunteer to distinguish from participants. Since we ran out of time, we dint get time to decide on website launch. -- Thanks & Regards Kracekumar.R "Talk is cheap, show me the code." -- Linus Torvalds -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kausikram at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 08:35:00 2012 From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:05:00 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Minutes of meeting - 4th Oct, 2012 at Khosy In-Reply-To: <506E7C89.5000307@kracekumar.com> References: <506DDF77.2010400@kracekumar.com> <506E7C89.5000307@kracekumar.com> Message-ID: > > Discussion was mainly focussed on selection process for talks, tutorials, > how to engage student community, volunteers, venue, sponsorship amount etc > ... > > * Minutes of the meeting * > > - Provide certificate to students/ volunteers. This may encourage > students to attend tutorials & talks which can be latter produced in > college for adjusting attendance of labs if required etc ... > - Send Posters to college in 2 months advance. > - Conduct Python workshop during college tech fest as part of > spreading awareness of Python through IPSS. > > Wondering out aloud, should we consider having an EduPy conference separately that will cater to students and education ? I know this is borderline ridiculous, but this way we can up the quality at PyCon India and still manage to bring in students into the community at large in a layered fashion. There are a lot of student volunteers who can run the show, provided a few of us here are ready to show solidarity. > First timers are not allowed to present tutorials. Consider getting the Keynotes to run a tutorial session themselves. I have seen PyCon APAC do that successfully and i think thats a model we can try to emulate. -- Kausikram Krishnasayee Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.in | Blog: blog.kausikram.in | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email: kausikram at gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kapoor.vaidik at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 08:42:43 2012 From: kapoor.vaidik at gmail.com (Vaidik Kapoor) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:12:43 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Minutes of meeting - 4th Oct, 2012 at Khosy In-Reply-To: <506E7C89.5000307@kracekumar.com> References: <506DDF77.2010400@kracekumar.com> <506E7C89.5000307@kracekumar.com> Message-ID: These are some important points that you guys have covered there. I'd like to present my on views on the some points and some additional suggestions because I could not attend meetings in Bangalore since I live in New Delhi. > * Minutes of the meeting * > > - Provide certificate to students/ volunteers. This may encourage > students to attend tutorials & talks which can be latter produced in > college for adjusting attendance of labs if required etc ... > > Call for volunteers should happen very early to get as many volunteers as possible. +1 for certificates. Also, consider having a volunteers list on the event website. This way volunteers can show without certificates that they were volunteering for the event. > > - Send Posters to college in 2 months advance. > - Conduct Python workshop during college tech fest as part of > spreading awareness of Python through IPSS. > > Though this seems like a good way to excite and make students aware, it gets really difficult to do when a lot of colleges are there in your city. Instead, dedicated workshops can be organized in one central venue and can be done multiple times. Also, the issue with doing events in colleges is that you rely on the college and volunteers from that college to make the arrangements, which many times are insufficient for a workshop because of lack of experience. > > - Clearly mention in posters, PyCon India is pure volunteer effort and > need volunteers. > > +1 > > - Shortlist all possible venues in bangalore and compare the price. > Venues can be private convention hall, 5 star hotel, College auditorium. > > Acoustics must be considered before selecting a venue. The classrooms at Dharmaram were not as good acoustic-wise. > > - Deadline for venue finalisation is January. > - Decide on the sponsor kit. > - All volunteers who are coordinating speakers should have all > speakers phone no, photo, twitter handle to contact them. > - First timers are not allowed to present tutorials. > > +1 Tutorials are a good way for people to learn and they attend them and invest a lot of time in them. If the speakers are not good enough, then the attendees feel that they are wasting time and money. > > - Process for selecting speakers has to be strict. First short list > all speakers and provide two weeks of time for speakers to upload the > presentation and finalise the talk. > > +1 > > - Keep a separate volunteer to take care of lighting talks. > - During tutorial day it should be assumed INTERNET is not reliable. > Volunteers are supposed to handover few pen drives to speakers for > distributing materials. > > +1 There should be pen drives available before hand. But, Internet is still a necessity and a good thing to have at a tech. conference like PyCon. > > - Expectation from volunteer is high, volunteer cannot attend any > talks. > - Special ticket price for students at early bird ticket. > - If possible try to find Indian Keynote speaker, speaker needn't be > Python contributor for example PyCon US 2012 keynote speaker was Paul > Graham who is known for Y Combinator. > > +1 > > - If sponsors company strength is less than 20, 50% discount will be > given on sponsorship amount. > - There is no hard slab in number of gold and silver sponsors. > - Lanyards will have * only Python * logo. > - Hat or t-shirt will be given to volunteer to distinguish from > participants. > > In addition to all these points: - the website should be up and ready long before the event. For example, PyCon US 2013 website was live a couple of months after PyCon US 2012. - Type of talks is important. Focus of talks/sessions should not to have "another short tutorial" but to discuss concepts, usage, optimization, real-world applications, etc. Some tutorials are fine but the idea should not be to have tutorials in sessions. - *Startup Row* would be very beneficial for the conference. It will be amazing to have that next year onwards. If I have more inputs, I will share on this thread. Thanks, Vaidik -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This may encourage students >> to attend tutorials & talks which can be latter produced in college for >> adjusting attendance of labs if required etc ... >> Send Posters to college in 2 months advance. >> Conduct Python workshop during college tech fest as part of spreading >> awareness of Python through IPSS. > > Wondering out aloud, should we consider having an EduPy conference > separately that will cater to students and education ? I know this is > borderline ridiculous, but this way we can up the quality at PyCon India and > still manage to bring in students into the community at large in a layered > fashion. There are a lot of student volunteers who can run the show, > provided a few of us here are ready to show solidarity. I agree that it is important to engage the student community, but running a conference is lot of effort. May be we should try conducting regular workshops at various colleges. >> First timers are not allowed to present tutorials. > > Consider getting the Keynotes to run a tutorial session themselves. I have > seen PyCon APAC do that successfully and i think thats a model we can try to > emulate. That is a good idea. I can't imagine how wonderful it'll be to have David Beazley delivering a tutorial at PyCon India. Anand From abpillai at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 17:37:22 2012 From: abpillai at gmail.com (Anand B Pillai) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 21:07:22 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PSF Community Award for Kenneth Gonsalves Message-ID: Hi all, FYI, PSF just released the official announcement for this. http://pyfound.blogspot.in/2012/10/kenneth-gonsalves-posthumously-awarded.html -- Regards, --Anand -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From vid at svaksha.com Fri Oct 5 18:24:34 2012 From: vid at svaksha.com (vid) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 16:24:34 +0000 Subject: [Inpycon] PSF Community Award for Kenneth Gonsalves In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Anand B Pillai wrote: > Hi all, > > FYI, PSF just released the official announcement for this. > > > http://pyfound.blogspot.in/2012/10/kenneth-gonsalves-posthumously-awarded.html Awesome :) Well deserved. -- Regards, vid ? http://svaksha.com ? From dhruvbaldawa at gmail.com Fri Oct 5 18:35:58 2012 From: dhruvbaldawa at gmail.com (Dhruv Baldawa) Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 22:05:58 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Minutes of meeting - 4th Oct, 2012 at Khosy In-Reply-To: <506E7C89.5000307@kracekumar.com> References: <506DDF77.2010400@kracekumar.com> <506E7C89.5000307@kracekumar.com> Message-ID: -- Dhruv Baldawa (http://www.dhruvb.com) On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 11:52 AM, kracekumar wrote: > > All, > > We had meeting in khosy's at 7:30 on 4th Oct, 2012 and had discussion > about PyCon India 2013, during the discussion we forgot to order the soup > :-(. Following people were present > > - Anand > - Noufal > - Vijay > - Jnana Sagar > - Sreekanth > - Devi > - Kracekumar > > > Discussion was mainly focussed on selection process for talks, tutorials, > how to engage student community, volunteers, venue, sponsorship amount etc > ... > > * Minutes of the meeting * > > - Provide certificate to students/ volunteers. This may encourage > students to attend tutorials & talks which can be latter produced in > college for adjusting attendance of labs if required etc ... > - Send Posters to college in 2 months advance. > - Conduct Python workshop during college tech fest as part of > spreading awareness of Python through IPSS. > > +1 to this. Today, I was speaking about Python at Google Devfest by GDG Mumbai. The response was completely overwhelming. I think we should have separate channels apart from those through IPSS for this. If IPSS starts an initiative this, we might require local chapters which can take care of this. > > - Clearly mention in posters, PyCon India is pure volunteer effort and > need volunteers. > - Shortlist all possible venues in bangalore and compare the price. > Venues can be private convention hall, 5 star hotel, College auditorium. > - Deadline for venue finalisation is January. > - Decide on the sponsor kit. > - All volunteers who are coordinating speakers should have all > speakers phone no, photo, twitter handle to contact them. > - First timers are not allowed to present tutorials. > - Process for selecting speakers has to be strict. First short list > all speakers and provide two weeks of time for speakers to upload the > presentation and finalise the talk. > - Keep a separate volunteer to take care of lighting talks. > - During tutorial day it should be assumed INTERNET is not reliable. > Volunteers are supposed to handover few pen drives to speakers for > distributing materials. > - Expectation from volunteer is high, volunteer cannot attend any > talks. > - Special ticket price for students at early bird ticket. > - If possible try to find Indian Keynote speaker, speaker needn't be > Python contributor for example PyCon US 2012 keynote speaker was Paul > Graham who is known for Y Combinator. > - If sponsors company strength is less than 20, 50% discount will be > given on sponsorship amount. > - There is no hard slab in number of gold and silver sponsors. > - Lanyards will have * only Python * logo. > - Hat or t-shirt will be given to volunteer to distinguish from > participants. > > > Since we ran out of time, we dint get time to decide on website launch. > > -- > Thanks & Regards > Kracekumar.R > "Talk is cheap, show me the code." -- Linus Torvalds > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 14:27:49 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 17:57:49 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] volunteer to uploads Message-ID: Hi, We need a volunteer to upload the videos of PyCon India 2012 conference. We have two different recordings in most of the rooms. One with the slides+video (live mixed on computer) and one without the slides (from cameras). Some rooms have both of these and some have only one. Someone should look at the quality of both the videos and upload the one with best quality. Please let me know if any of you can take up this. Thanks, Anand From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Wed Oct 10 17:04:31 2012 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 20:34:31 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey Message-ID: <87fw5mnzb4.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Is the exit survey sent out? Can someone do it and get it over with? -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From anandology at gmail.com Wed Oct 10 17:32:24 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2012 21:02:24 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: <87fw5mnzb4.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87fw5mnzb4.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Is the exit survey sent out? Can someone do it and get it over with? Not yet. Wanted to check with you before sending it. I remember you mentioned some points last time we met. Will call you sometime tomorrow and push it. Anand From me at bibhas.in Sat Oct 13 21:02:53 2012 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 00:32:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87fw5mnzb4.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: This one needs a bump. In my opinion, it's already too late to send this out. So if we wanna do it, we should do it ASAP. ---- Bibhas http://bibhas.in On 10 October 2012 21:02, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim > wrote: > > > > Is the exit survey sent out? Can someone do it and get it over with? > > Not yet. Wanted to check with you before sending it. I remember you > mentioned some points last time we met. Will call you sometime > tomorrow and push it. > > Anand > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Sun Oct 14 03:41:26 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:11:26 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87fw5mnzb4.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: I've sent, but there is doattend glitch that failed to send the emails, but showing them as sent. I've emailed support at doattend. waiting for response. Let me try to resend the email. Anand On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > This one needs a bump. In my opinion, it's already too late to send this > out. So if we wanna do it, we should do it ASAP. > > ---- > Bibhas > http://bibhas.in > > > > On 10 October 2012 21:02, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim >> wrote: >> > >> > Is the exit survey sent out? Can someone do it and get it over with? >> >> Not yet. Wanted to check with you before sending it. I remember you >> mentioned some points last time we met. Will call you sometime >> tomorrow and push it. >> >> Anand >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Anand http://anandology.com/ From anandology at gmail.com Sun Oct 14 03:47:10 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 07:17:10 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87fw5mnzb4.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Same error again. Let me try contacting the doattend folks. Anand On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > I've sent, but there is doattend glitch that failed to send the > emails, but showing them as sent. I've emailed support at doattend. > waiting for response. > > Let me try to resend the email. > > Anand > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: >> This one needs a bump. In my opinion, it's already too late to send this >> out. So if we wanna do it, we should do it ASAP. >> >> ---- >> Bibhas >> http://bibhas.in >> >> >> >> On 10 October 2012 21:02, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Is the exit survey sent out? Can someone do it and get it over with? >>> >>> Not yet. Wanted to check with you before sending it. I remember you >>> mentioned some points last time we met. Will call you sometime >>> tomorrow and push it. >>> >>> Anand >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > > > > -- > Anand > http://anandology.com/ -- Anand http://anandology.com/ From anandology at gmail.com Mon Oct 15 07:12:55 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:42:55 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87fw5mnzb4.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: The Doattend error is fixed now and I've sent out the email to all participants. Anand On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Same error again. Let me try contacting the doattend folks. > > Anand > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >> I've sent, but there is doattend glitch that failed to send the >> emails, but showing them as sent. I've emailed support at doattend. >> waiting for response. >> >> Let me try to resend the email. >> >> Anand >> >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: >>> This one needs a bump. In my opinion, it's already too late to send this >>> out. So if we wanna do it, we should do it ASAP. >>> >>> ---- >>> Bibhas >>> http://bibhas.in >>> >>> >>> >>> On 10 October 2012 21:02, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim >>>> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > Is the exit survey sent out? Can someone do it and get it over with? >>>> >>>> Not yet. Wanted to check with you before sending it. I remember you >>>> mentioned some points last time we met. Will call you sometime >>>> tomorrow and push it. >>>> >>>> Anand >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Inpycon mailing list >>>> Inpycon at python.org >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Anand >> http://anandology.com/ > > > > -- > Anand > http://anandology.com/ -- Anand http://anandology.com/ From me at bibhas.in Mon Oct 15 07:27:59 2012 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 10:57:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Exit survey In-Reply-To: References: <87fw5mnzb4.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: Just received. :) ---- Bibhas http://bibhas.in On 15 October 2012 10:42, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > The Doattend error is fixed now and I've sent out the email to all > participants. > > Anand > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: > > Same error again. Let me try contacting the doattend folks. > > > > Anand > > > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 7:11 AM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: > >> I've sent, but there is doattend glitch that failed to send the > >> emails, but showing them as sent. I've emailed support at doattend. > >> waiting for response. > >> > >> Let me try to resend the email. > >> > >> Anand > >> > >> On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:32 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath > wrote: > >>> This one needs a bump. In my opinion, it's already too late to send > this > >>> out. So if we wanna do it, we should do it ASAP. > >>> > >>> ---- > >>> Bibhas > >>> http://bibhas.in > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 10 October 2012 21:02, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Noufal Ibrahim < > noufal at nibrahim.net.in> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > > >>>> > Is the exit survey sent out? Can someone do it and get it over with? > >>>> > >>>> Not yet. Wanted to check with you before sending it. I remember you > >>>> mentioned some points last time we met. Will call you sometime > >>>> tomorrow and push it. > >>>> > >>>> Anand > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Inpycon mailing list > >>>> Inpycon at python.org > >>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Inpycon mailing list > >>> Inpycon at python.org > >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Anand > >> http://anandology.com/ > > > > > > > > -- > > Anand > > http://anandology.com/ > > > > -- > Anand > http://anandology.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From satyaakam at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 16:43:49 2012 From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyaakam goswami) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:13:49 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Handbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: started a page https://github.com/satyaakam/Pycon-India-Handbook/wiki/Pycon-India-Handbook -Satya fossevents.in On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > Yes, we should. I suggest using Sphinx. > > I need at least couple of weeks time before working on it. Need to > catch up with work. > > Anand > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: >> Can we proceed with that as we discussed? Make a git wiki maybe? >> >> >> ---- >> Bibhas >> http://bibhas.in >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon From anandology at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 16:50:55 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:20:55 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Handbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I think we should write them down using Sphinx so that we can generate a HTML/PDF and host it wherever required. But wiki is a good start. Anand On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:13 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote: > started a page https://github.com/satyaakam/Pycon-India-Handbook/wiki/Pycon-India-Handbook > > -Satya > fossevents.in > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >> Yes, we should. I suggest using Sphinx. >> >> I need at least couple of weeks time before working on it. Need to >> catch up with work. >> >> Anand >> >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: >>> Can we proceed with that as we discussed? Make a git wiki maybe? >>> >>> >>> ---- >>> Bibhas >>> http://bibhas.in >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -- Anand http://anandology.com/ From abdulmuneer at gmail.com Tue Oct 16 17:10:46 2012 From: abdulmuneer at gmail.com (Abdul Muneer) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:40:46 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon local events Message-ID: Hi, One of the suggestions during the AGM was to have city based events. I remember somebody suggesting about conducting an event in his city, Hyderabad. There are many advantages to have local events such as: - A local network and their frequent interactions will do a world of good for pythonistas than an annual event. - PyCon India being an apex event, its quality will go up as people get more experience in a lower tier. - Low barrier for people to participate and present talks. - Popularise language by reaching out to wider participation. I think it is imperative to have formal events at a lower level if we want the quality of PyCon to go up. Perhaps these events should finish before we announce CFP for PyCon India as people will get more experience and can come up with quality talk submissions. Any thoughts? Regards, Abdul Muneer -- Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I > remember somebody suggesting about conducting an event in his city, > Hyderabad. > > There are many advantages to have local events such as: > > - A local network and their frequent interactions will do a world of > good for pythonistas than an annual event. > - PyCon India being an apex event, its quality will go up as people get > more experience in a lower tier. > - Low barrier for people to participate and present talks. > - Popularise language by reaching out to wider participation. > > I think it is imperative to have formal events at a lower level if we want > the quality of PyCon to go up. Perhaps these events should finish before we > announce CFP for PyCon India as people will get more experience and can > come up with quality talk submissions. Any thoughts? I'm +1 all the way about this and if the society can help in any way, just holler. The first steps to get a local event happening is, in my opinion, to have an active local user group. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From me at bibhas.in Tue Oct 16 18:25:38 2012 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:55:38 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Handbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Let's use Sphinx and Connect readthedocs with github? ---- Bibhas http://bibhas.in On 16 October 2012 20:20, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > I think we should write them down using Sphinx so that we can generate > a HTML/PDF and host it wherever required. > > But wiki is a good start. > > Anand > > > On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:13 PM, satyaakam goswami > wrote: > > started a page > https://github.com/satyaakam/Pycon-India-Handbook/wiki/Pycon-India-Handbook > > > > -Satya > > fossevents.in > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Anand Chitipothu > wrote: > >> Yes, we should. I suggest using Sphinx. > >> > >> I need at least couple of weeks time before working on it. Need to > >> catch up with work. > >> > >> Anand > >> > >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath > wrote: > >>> Can we proceed with that as we discussed? 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URL: From me at bibhas.in Tue Oct 16 18:26:51 2012 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:56:51 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] PyCon India Handbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This seems free http://pyconindia.readthedocs.org/ ---- Bibhas http://bibhas.in On 16 October 2012 21:55, Bibhas Ch Debnath wrote: > Let's use Sphinx and Connect readthedocs with github? > > ---- > Bibhas > http://bibhas.in > > > > On 16 October 2012 20:20, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > >> I think we should write them down using Sphinx so that we can generate >> a HTML/PDF and host it wherever required. >> >> But wiki is a good start. >> >> Anand >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 8:13 PM, satyaakam goswami >> wrote: >> > started a page >> https://github.com/satyaakam/Pycon-India-Handbook/wiki/Pycon-India-Handbook >> > >> > -Satya >> > fossevents.in >> > >> > >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Anand Chitipothu >> wrote: >> >> Yes, we should. I suggest using Sphinx. >> >> >> >> I need at least couple of weeks time before working on it. Need to >> >> catch up with work. >> >> >> >> Anand >> >> >> >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath >> wrote: >> >>> Can we proceed with that as we discussed? 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I suggest using Sphinx. >>> >> >>> >> I need at least couple of weeks time before working on it. Need to >>> >> catch up with work. >>> >> >>> >> Anand >>> >> >>> >> On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 10:19 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> Can we proceed with that as we discussed? Make a git wiki maybe? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---- >>> >>> Bibhas >>> >>> http://bibhas.in >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Inpycon mailing list >>> >> Inpycon at python.org >>> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Inpycon mailing list >>> > Inpycon at python.org >>> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Anand >>> http://anandology.com/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Inpycon mailing list >>> Inpycon at python.org >>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Anand http://anandology.com/ From abdulmuneer at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 18:00:59 2012 From: abdulmuneer at gmail.com (Abdul Muneer) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:30:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Next Venue Message-ID: Hi, Kiran in his hasgeek blogstates that they have evaluated nearly every venue in Bangalore before settling on places like NIMHANS and MLR. These venues cost a lot but are among the only usable venues for events with between 300 to 1000 participants. He also mentions about NIMHANS that the venue has to be booked roughly an year in advance. Shouldn?t we be hurrying up in deciding the venue and booking it? What is the ideal time by which we should close this so that can avoid waiting for the right mood ? :-) Regards, Abdul Muneer -- Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ramdaz at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 18:06:24 2012 From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 21:36:24 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Next Venue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Abdul Muneer wrote: > Hi, > > Kiran in his hasgeek blog states that they have evaluated nearly every venue > in Bangalore before settling on places like NIMHANS and MLR. These venues > cost a lot but are among the only usable venues for events with between 300 > to 1000 participants. He also mentions about NIMHANS that the venue has to > be booked roughly an year in advance. > > Shouldn?t we be hurrying up in deciding the venue and booking it? What is > the ideal time by which we should close this so that can avoid waiting for > the right mood? :-) > Regards, > Abdul Muneer > Muneer has a point, if it makes sense to others too. Do announce dates for next year,and pay advance and book the place. > Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com From versesane at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 18:53:59 2012 From: versesane at gmail.com (Ankur Gupta) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:23:59 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Next Venue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Why should pycon happen in Bangalore again ? On Thursday, October 18, 2012, Ramdas S wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Abdul Muneer > > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Kiran in his hasgeek blog states that they have evaluated nearly every > venue > > in Bangalore before settling on places like NIMHANS and MLR. These venues > > cost a lot but are among the only usable venues for events with between > 300 > > to 1000 participants. He also mentions about NIMHANS that the venue has > to > > be booked roughly an year in advance. > > > > Shouldn?t we be hurrying up in deciding the venue and booking it? What is > > the ideal time by which we should close this so that can avoid waiting > for > > the right mood? :-) > > Regards, > > Abdul Muneer > > > > > Muneer has a point, if it makes sense to others too. Do announce dates > for next year,and pay advance and book the place. > > > > Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inpycon mailing list > > Inpycon at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > > > -- > Ramdas S > +91 9342 583 065 > My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Homepage -> http://uptosomething.in -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kushaldas at gmail.com Thu Oct 18 18:58:53 2012 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:28:53 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Next Venue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 10:23 PM, Ankur Gupta wrote: > Why should pycon happen in Bangalore again ? As it was decided in the AGM. Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 18 19:03:34 2012 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 01:03:34 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] Next Venue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1350579814.44792.YahooMailNeo@web192205.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> HI Abdul, ? ? ?As krace mentioned in MOM he sent we will be doing venue booking it by end of?December?or starting of Jan 2013. ? With Thanks Vijay ________________________________ From: Abdul Muneer To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2012 9:30 PM Subject: [Inpycon] Next Venue Hi, Kiran in his hasgeek blog states that they have evaluated nearly every venue in Bangalore before settling on places like NIMHANS and MLR. These venues cost a lot but are among the only usable venues for events with between 300 to 1000 participants. He also mentions about NIMHANS ?that the venue has to be booked roughly an year in advance. Shouldn?t we be hurrying up in deciding the venue and booking it? What is the ideal time by which we should close this so that can avoid waiting for the right mood?? :-) Regards, Abdul Muneer -- Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Thu Oct 18 19:11:47 2012 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 01:11:47 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] Next Venue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1350580307.9165.YahooMailNeo@web192201.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> Couple of reason 1) Volunteers 2) We need to see few person from that venue actively?participate and understand what it take to arrange conference so they can conduct next year conference in?their?city. 3) We decided next year venue in AGM meeting which happened on Sep 30 2012. With Thanks Vijay ________________________________ From: Ankur Gupta To: "ramdaz at gmail.com" ; Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2012 10:23 PM Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Next Venue Why should pycon happen in Bangalore again ?? On Thursday, October 18, 2012, Ramdas S wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Abdul Muneer wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Kiran in his hasgeek blog states that they have evaluated nearly every venue >> in Bangalore before settling on places like NIMHANS and MLR. These venues >> cost a lot but are among the only usable venues for events with between 300 >> to 1000 participants. He also mentions about NIMHANS ?that the venue has to >> be booked roughly an year in advance. >> >> Shouldn?t we be hurrying up in deciding the venue and booking it? What is >> the ideal time by which we should close this so that can avoid waiting for >> the right mood? ?:-) >> Regards, >> Abdul Muneer >> > > >Muneer has a point, if it makes sense to others too. Do announce dates >for next year,and pay advance and book the place. > > >> Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > > > >-- >Ramdas S >+91 9342 583 065 >My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com >_______________________________________________ >Inpycon mailing list >Inpycon at python.org >http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Homepage -> http://uptosomething.in _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Regards, Palak Mathur http://palakmathur.wordpress.com http://vicharvahak.wordpress.com http://aatmiyata.wordpress.com http://palakmathur.blogspot.com On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Abdul Muneer wrote: > Hi, > > Kiran in his hasgeek blogstates that they have evaluated nearly every venue in Bangalore before > settling on places like NIMHANS and MLR. These venues cost a lot but are > among the only usable venues for events with between 300 to 1000 > participants. He also mentions about NIMHANS that the venue has to be > booked roughly an year in advance. > Shouldn?t we be hurrying up in deciding the venue and booking it? What is > the ideal time by which we should close this so that can avoid waiting for the > right mood ? :-) > Regards, > Abdul Muneer > > -- > Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ramdaz at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 08:01:13 2012 From: ramdaz at gmail.com (Ramdas S) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:31:13 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Next Venue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Palak Mathur wrote: > Are we going to have PyCon India in Bangalore only? What about exploring > other cities like Delhi/NCR, Hyderabad, etc? > Palak, Please note we had an AGM of IPSF, and a call to this affect has been taken. This has been discussed in this same thread already four times. Also note that if the local groups want to conduct a conference in any city, they are most welcome too. There would be support from all of us. > Regards, > Palak Mathur > http://palakmathur.wordpress.com > http://vicharvahak.wordpress.com > http://aatmiyata.wordpress.com > http://palakmathur.blogspot.com > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Abdul Muneer wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Kiran in his hasgeek blog states that they have evaluated nearly every >> venue in Bangalore before settling on places like NIMHANS and MLR. These >> venues cost a lot but are among the only usable venues for events with >> between 300 to 1000 participants. He also mentions about NIMHANS that the >> venue has to be booked roughly an year in advance. >> >> Shouldn?t we be hurrying up in deciding the venue and booking it? What is >> the ideal time by which we should close this so that can avoid waiting for >> the right mood? :-) >> Regards, >> Abdul Muneer >> >> -- >> Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Ramdas S +91 9342 583 065 My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com From noufal at nibrahim.net.in Fri Oct 19 08:04:26 2012 From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:34:26 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Next Venue In-Reply-To: (Palak Mathur's message of "Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:24:56 +0530") References: Message-ID: <878vb3t2tx.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Palak Mathur writes: > Are we going to have PyCon India in Bangalore only? What about > exploring other cities like Delhi/NCR, Hyderabad, etc? Definitely but till it gets some more momentum, the plan is to keep it in Bangalore. We should formalise this and the general location selection process in writing somewhere. For the immediate future (atleast two years), it will be in Bangalore so let's focus on that. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From me at bibhas.in Fri Oct 19 08:04:32 2012 From: me at bibhas.in (Bibhas Ch Debnath) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 11:34:32 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Next Venue In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: PyCon India needs a permanent blog where we could update these information. ---- Bibhas http://bibhas.in On 19 October 2012 11:31, Ramdas S wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Palak Mathur > wrote: > > Are we going to have PyCon India in Bangalore only? What about exploring > > other cities like Delhi/NCR, Hyderabad, etc? > > > > Palak, > > Please note we had an AGM of IPSF, and a call to this affect has been > taken. This has been discussed in this same thread already four times. > > Also note that if the local groups want to conduct a conference in any > city, they are most welcome too. There would be support from all of > us. > > > > Regards, > > Palak Mathur > > http://palakmathur.wordpress.com > > http://vicharvahak.wordpress.com > > http://aatmiyata.wordpress.com > > http://palakmathur.blogspot.com > > > > > > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Abdul Muneer > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> Kiran in his hasgeek blog states that they have evaluated nearly every > >> venue in Bangalore before settling on places like NIMHANS and MLR. These > >> venues cost a lot but are among the only usable venues for events with > >> between 300 to 1000 participants. He also mentions about NIMHANS that > the > >> venue has to be booked roughly an year in advance. > >> > >> Shouldn?t we be hurrying up in deciding the venue and booking it? What > is > >> the ideal time by which we should close this so that can avoid waiting > for > >> the right mood? :-) > >> Regards, > >> Abdul Muneer > >> > >> -- > >> Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Inpycon mailing list > >> Inpycon at python.org > >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Inpycon mailing list > > Inpycon at python.org > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > > > > > -- > Ramdas S > +91 9342 583 065 > My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This has been discussed in this same thread already four times. >> >> Also note that if the local groups want to conduct a conference in any >> city, they are most welcome too. There would be support from all of >> us. >> >> >> > Regards, >> > Palak Mathur >> > http://palakmathur.wordpress.com >> > http://vicharvahak.wordpress.com >> > http://aatmiyata.wordpress.com >> > http://palakmathur.blogspot.com >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 18, 2012 at 9:30 PM, Abdul Muneer >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Kiran in his hasgeek blog states that they have evaluated nearly every >> >> venue in Bangalore before settling on places like NIMHANS and MLR. >> These >> >> venues cost a lot but are among the only usable venues for events with >> >> between 300 to 1000 participants. He also mentions about NIMHANS that >> the >> >> venue has to be booked roughly an year in advance. >> >> >> >> Shouldn?t we be hurrying up in deciding the venue and booking it? What >> is >> >> the ideal time by which we should close this so that can avoid waiting >> for >> >> the right mood? :-) >> >> Regards, >> >> Abdul Muneer >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Follow me on Twitter: @abdulmuneer >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Inpycon mailing list >> >> Inpycon at python.org >> >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> >> >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Inpycon mailing list >> > Inpycon at python.org >> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Ramdas S >> +91 9342 583 065 >> My Personal Blog on http://ramdaz.wordpress.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Inpycon mailing list >> Inpycon at python.org >> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That'd be much better compared to finding a single freelancer and > paying him/her to make a logo. Unless we have someone on the list who is otherwise a professional designer, I'm -1 on this. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com Fri Oct 19 08:32:10 2012 From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:32:10 +0800 (SGT) Subject: [Inpycon] Artwork for 2013 In-Reply-To: <87391bt20p.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87391bt20p.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: <1350628330.56581.YahooMailNeo@web192203.mail.sg3.yahoo.com> If some one comeup with good logo it will be great else happy to use same logo used this year. http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/2644416905/c9a82df2accee1a40d7424ac5cb38db5.png ________________________________ From: Noufal Ibrahim To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Artwork for 2013 Bibhas Ch Debnath writes: > This year we've seen that we're lacking good designers in our community. > There has been posts since about couple of months before the event asking > designers to design a logo and that didn't help Everything happened at the > last moment. > > As the main concern is the Logo, I'd suggest that we host a logo designing > contest and announce it soon. Maybe the winner can get a free ticket to the > event. That'd be much better compared to finding a single freelancer and > paying him/her to make a logo. Unless we have someone on the list who is otherwise a professional designer, I'm -1 on this. [...] -- Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in _______________________________________________ Inpycon mailing list Inpycon at python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 08:34:32 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:04:32 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Artwork for 2013 In-Reply-To: <87391bt20p.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <87391bt20p.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Bibhas Ch Debnath writes: > >> This year we've seen that we're lacking good designers in our community. >> There has been posts since about couple of months before the event asking >> designers to design a logo and that didn't help Everything happened at the >> last moment. >> >> As the main concern is the Logo, I'd suggest that we host a logo designing >> contest and announce it soon. Maybe the winner can get a free ticket to the >> event. That'd be much better compared to finding a single freelancer and >> paying him/her to make a logo. > > Unless we have someone on the list who is otherwise a professional > designer, I'm -1 on this. I second Noufal. I too think it is better to give it to a professional designer. If we have some people with good design skills, they can work with the designer that we hire to look at the designs and give feedback. Anand From versesane at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 09:15:43 2012 From: versesane at gmail.com (Ankur Gupta) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 12:45:43 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Next Venue In-Reply-To: <878vb3t2tx.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> References: <878vb3t2tx.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Palak Mathur writes: > > > Are we going to have PyCon India in Bangalore only? What about > > exploring other cities like Delhi/NCR, Hyderabad, etc? > > Definitely but till it gets some more momentum, the plan is to keep it > in Bangalore. > > We should formalise this and the general location selection process in > writing > somewhere. For the immediate future (atleast two years), it will be in > Bangalore so let's focus on that. > > [...] > Fair enough that it was agreed upon at the AGM. I think the merits of having to rotate the location every year should also be discussed. It helps brings in wider audience one that wouldn't travel to another city to attend a Python conference despite being Python Programmers. The PyCon in Pune helped achieved exactly that. Also this would lead to better integration/interaction amongst Local Indian Python User Group Chapters. One relevant example is that PyCon APAC will this year be held in Japan and not Singapore and there is a serious intention to take it to other Asian countries. Should we blindly ape what they are doing no ?. But those those are part of the AGM need to ask if having PyCon in bangalore only serves in best interest of the community or having location on rotating basis. Cheers Ankur > > > -- > Cordially, > Noufal > http://nibrahim.net.in > _______________________________________________ > Inpycon mailing list > Inpycon at python.org > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon > -- Homepage -> http://uptosomething.in -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From satyaakam at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 09:31:31 2012 From: satyaakam at gmail.com (satyaakam goswami) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:01:31 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Next Venue In-Reply-To: References: <878vb3t2tx.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: > Fair enough that it was agreed upon at the AGM. I think the merits of having > to rotate the location every year should also be discussed. It helps brings > in wider audience one that wouldn't travel to another city to attend a > Python conference despite being Python Programmers. The PyCon in Pune helped > achieved exactly that. Also this would lead to better > integration/interaction amongst Local Indian Python User Group Chapters. One > relevant example is that PyCon APAC will this year be held in Japan and not > Singapore and there is a serious intention to take it to other Asian > countries. Should we blindly ape what they are doing no ?. But those those > are part of the AGM need to ask if having PyCon in bangalore only serves in > best interest of the community or having location on rotating basis. everyone is in agreement with whatever everyone is saying wrt to rotation of Venue , It's in Bangalore for now, since we do not have local active communities to take the task to other venues.having said that there was also proposal to organize small local events and gather momentum towards organizing events like Pycon India . So to be fair first organize local meetups on a regular basis , then organize smaller regional events then lets regroup in 2013 Pycon India and then put our hat in the ring for organizing Pycon India . -Satya fossevents.in From kushaldas at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 09:46:10 2012 From: kushaldas at gmail.com (Kushal Das) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:16:10 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Artwork for 2013 In-Reply-To: References: <87391bt20p.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:51 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> Bibhas Ch Debnath writes: >> >>> This year we've seen that we're lacking good designers in our community. >>> There has been posts since about couple of months before the event asking >>> designers to design a logo and that didn't help Everything happened at the >>> last moment. >>> >>> As the main concern is the Logo, I'd suggest that we host a logo designing >>> contest and announce it soon. Maybe the winner can get a free ticket to the >>> event. That'd be much better compared to finding a single freelancer and >>> paying him/her to make a logo. >> >> Unless we have someone on the list who is otherwise a professional >> designer, I'm -1 on this. > > I second Noufal. I too think it is better to give it to a professional > designer. > > If we have some people with good design skills, they can work with the > designer that we hire to look at the designs and give feedback. > I asked nicubunu [1] to help with a new logo and he agreed to work on one. I will pass him the required information to him. [1] http://nicubunu.ro/ Kushal -- http://fedoraproject.org http://kushaldas.in From kausikram at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 09:49:50 2012 From: kausikram at gmail.com (kausikram krishnasayee) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 13:19:50 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Artwork for 2013 In-Reply-To: References: <87391bt20p.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: > Unless we have someone on the list who is otherwise a professional > > designer, I'm -1 on this. > I second Noufal. I too think it is better to give it to a professional > designer. If you ask me we should just stick with the logo we are currently using. (The one which sticks to PSF specs). -- Kausikram Krishnasayee Company: http://silverstripesoftware.com | Webpage: kausikram.in | Blog: blog.kausikram.in | Twitter: http://twitter.com/kausikram | Email: kausikram at gmail.com | Mobile: +91 9884246490 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anandology at gmail.com Fri Oct 19 10:46:31 2012 From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu) Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2012 14:16:31 +0530 Subject: [Inpycon] Artwork for 2013 In-Reply-To: References: <87391bt20p.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain> Message-ID: On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 1:19 PM, kausikram krishnasayee wrote: >> Unless we have someone on the list who is otherwise a professional >> >> > designer, I'm -1 on this. >> I second Noufal. I too think it is better to give it to a professional >> designer. > > > If you ask me we should just stick with the logo we are currently using. > (The one which sticks to PSF specs). Yes, we should stick with the logo that we are using on twitter[1]. But, we need to create artwork around that logo. [1]: https://twitter.com/pyconindia Anand