[Inpycon] Tutorials

[konark modi]

I agree with both of you.

While the idea here is to improve the quality of talks / workshops we need
to bridge the gap between submitting proposal and delivering the talk, and
certainly not making it a mandate but instead for people who are looking
for some sort of guidance / mentoring .

If local groups (which apparently are not that active apart from few
cities) can help out, would be great. But was just proposing an idea if we
could think of a way out of getting this thing under the Umbrella of PyCon
India.

Regards
Konark






On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>wrote:

>
> While a good idea, I don't think *helping* people with presentations falls
> into the conference agenda.
>
> It's probably something that fits in very well with local user groups
> though. They can hold this kind of thing to polish talks and get them
> out.
>
> konark modi <modi.konark at gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Even before submitting an idea, we need to have a set of people where
> > willing speakers if they wish, can come and discuss about certain ideas
> > they wish to present or even just desire to deliver a talk / tutorial but
> > unable to frame an idea around it .
> >
> >  The group can guide them with what all can be done w.r.t that topic, how
> > can you have a 'wow' factor or some key take away from your talk /
> tutorial
> > for the attendees. Also, letting them know what has already been done at
> > previous PyCon and how they can be different.
> >
> > Post selection, what we can do if possible is to help review / improve
> > content for talks / tutorials is by having a G+ Hangout for practicing
> the
> > session.
> >
> > Selected volunteers can do this, with the selected speakers, it is not
> > needed to  deliver all of the content, but some portion of it and how
> they
> > are planning it would certainly help them receive feedback  to help them
> > manage the content better and the PyCon committee screening it better.
> >
> > Interesting group : http://speakup.io/
> >
> > Regards
> > Konark Modi
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in
> >wrote:
> >>
> >>> Bibhas Ch Debnath <me at bibhas.in> writes:
> >>>
> >>> > If the target audience of the tutorials are students, *I think*
> >>> > 1.5k/2k for a session would be too much, and will overall discourage
> >>> > them to attend any.
> >>> >
> >>> > Also, per session charging would mean tickets for sessions, and
> >>> > checking tickets while entering any session. I hope we'll have enough
> >>> > volunteers free for that.
> >>>
> >>> [...]
> >>>
> >>> We need to clarify this.
> >>>
> >>> The price is indicative of the quality of the tutorial. Experienced
> >>> speaker, time spent on materials and a deep tutorial. It's not
> >>> necessarily meant for students. If someone good had a tutorial on
> >>> writing interpreters using the PyPy toolchain for example, I'd pay to
> >>> attend. It's also a good idea for it to be a bit high so that people
> >>> don't simply saunter in but make an active decision, possibly involving
> >>> a little bit of sacrifice to attend the tutorial. This will keep the
> >>> audience size limited in size and high in quality. If the instructor is
> >>> similarly good, it'll be a success.
> >>>
> >>> I don't want to give the idea that when we say "tutorial", it means a
> >>> talk intended for absolute beginners (usually students) about a topic.
> I
> >>> want to convey that it'll be an in depth presentation possibly along
> >>> with practical sessions to "teach" a topic to an audience.
> >>>
> >>> Finally, if someone genuinely has a cash crunch problem, we can do
> >>> something about it as a special case rather than lower the fee so that
> >>> "everyone" can attend.
> >>>
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Anand
> >>
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> --
> Cordially,
> Noufal
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>
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