From pavankumar4uin at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 06:58:12 2013
From: pavankumar4uin at gmail.com (pavan kumar)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:28:12 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] CFP Dates
In-Reply-To: <CACWtv5n4uG4qV8sGuh6DPc0KfsT4dOxRobJv0EhkTHg1v_2RPA@mail.gmail.com>
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+1

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Vaidik Kapoor <kapoor.vaidik at gmail.com>wrote:

> +1
>
> There should be enough time to review and the speakers should get enough
> time in advance to confirm if they can present on the given day or not. I
> remember many speakers were not able to present their sessions in the last
> PyCon.
>
> Best regards,
> Vaidik Kapoor
> www.vaidikkapoor.info
>
>
> On 30 January 2013 22:55, vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>     I think we need to start CFP  by 3rd week of Feb.
>>     We need to close CFP by mid of June 2013 so that we will get enough
>> time to review and filter out the talk/tutorial.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vijay
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>>
>
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From anandology at gmail.com  Tue Feb  5 07:08:03 2013
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 11:38:03 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] CFP Dates
In-Reply-To: <1359566758.26942.YahooMailNeo@web192205.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
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Shall we have a meeting on IRC and decide what needs to be done and
decide deadlines for each?

How a meeting on #python-india about 7:00PM on Feb 7th, Thursday?

Anand

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:55 PM, vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>     I think we need to start CFP  by 3rd week of Feb.
>     We need to close CFP by mid of June 2013 so that we will get enough time
> to review and filter out the talk/tutorial.
>
> Regards,
> Vijay
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



-- 
Anand
http://anandology.com/

From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com  Tue Feb  5 07:10:09 2013
From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 14:10:09 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [Inpycon] CFP Dates
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFwaq1MmnF9xnUaENceCi7B3HCG29osnE+XDH7M=USQQag@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1359566758.26942.YahooMailNeo@web192205.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<CAC7wXFwaq1MmnF9xnUaENceCi7B3HCG29osnE+XDH7M=USQQag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1360044609.72496.YahooMailNeo@web192203.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>

I can't make this?Thursday,??can we make?Tuesday?Feb 12th ?


________________________________
 From: Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
To: vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com>; Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Inpycon] CFP Dates
 
Shall we have a meeting on IRC and decide what needs to be done and
decide deadlines for each?

How a meeting on #python-india about 7:00PM on Feb 7th, Thursday?

Anand

On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:55 PM, vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>? ?  I think we need to start CFP? by 3rd week of Feb.
>? ?  We need to close CFP by mid of June 2013 so that we will get enough time
> to review and filter out the talk/tutorial.
>
> Regards,
> Vijay
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From me at kracekumar.com  Tue Feb  5 08:09:31 2013
From: me at kracekumar.com (me kracekumar)
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 12:39:31 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] CFP Dates
In-Reply-To: <1360044609.72496.YahooMailNeo@web192203.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
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+1 for both the dates, lets wait for more people reply ?

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:40 AM, vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I can't make this Thursday,  can we make Tuesday Feb 12th ?
>
>   ------------------------------
> *From:* Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
> *To:* vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com>; Mailing list for the PyCon India
> conference <inpycon at python.org>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 February 2013 11:38 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Inpycon] CFP Dates
>
> Shall we have a meeting on IRC and decide what needs to be done and
> decide deadlines for each?
>
> How a meeting on #python-india about 7:00PM on Feb 7th, Thursday?
>
> Anand
>
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 10:55 PM, vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >    I think we need to start CFP  by 3rd week of Feb.
> >    We need to close CFP by mid of June 2013 so that we will get enough
> time
> > to review and filter out the talk/tutorial.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Vijay
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Inpycon mailing list
> > Inpycon at python.org
> > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Anand
> http://anandology.com/
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Tue Feb  5 08:19:17 2013
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2013 12:49:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] CFP Dates
In-Reply-To: <1359566758.26942.YahooMailNeo@web192205.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	(vijay's message of "Thu, 31 Jan 2013 01:25:58 +0800 (SGT)")
References: <1359566758.26942.YahooMailNeo@web192205.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <87r4kvrzwq.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>


Any thoughts on reducing the number of talks/tracks? Better to have a
small number of focussed high quality tracks rather than lots of talks
which people don't really like. 

Also, we need to discuss the hard decisions like "no first time
speakers" etc. and whether we want to do it this year atleast as an
experiment to improve the conference. 

vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com> writes:

> Hi,
> ? ??I think we need to start CFP ?by 3rd week of Feb.? ? We need to
> close CFP by mid of June 2013 so that we will get enough time to
> review and filter out the talk/tutorial.
>
> Regards,
> Vijay
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From anandology at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 02:12:36 2013
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 06:42:36 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] CFP Dates
In-Reply-To: <1360044609.72496.YahooMailNeo@web192203.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
References: <1359566758.26942.YahooMailNeo@web192205.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<CAC7wXFwaq1MmnF9xnUaENceCi7B3HCG29osnE+XDH7M=USQQag@mail.gmail.com>
	<1360044609.72496.YahooMailNeo@web192203.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
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On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:40 AM, vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I can't make this Thursday,  can we make Tuesday Feb 12th ?

I'm away most of next week. How about this Friday?

Anand

From anandology at gmail.com  Wed Feb  6 02:14:38 2013
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 06:44:38 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] CFP Dates
In-Reply-To: <87r4kvrzwq.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
References: <1359566758.26942.YahooMailNeo@web192205.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<87r4kvrzwq.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
Message-ID: <CAC7wXFzCAfS0dHaRtEtdCBTMJ-un9b0bq94SAhTT09bu5+64dg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>
> Any thoughts on reducing the number of talks/tracks? Better to have a
> small number of focussed high quality tracks rather than lots of talks
> which people don't really like.
>
> Also, we need to discuss the hard decisions like "no first time
> speakers" etc. and whether we want to do it this year atleast as an
> experiment to improve the conference.

This is exactly what I've in my mind too.

I think it is important to decide the dates and find volunteers take
up tasks before we get into details.

Anand

From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  6 05:03:52 2013
From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay)
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 12:03:52 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [Inpycon] CFP Dates
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFxQe8zRxukBjtNYyMDyy9W1Qnn51Hdyjr_PXuvsBxGwrw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1359566758.26942.YahooMailNeo@web192205.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<CAC7wXFwaq1MmnF9xnUaENceCi7B3HCG29osnE+XDH7M=USQQag@mail.gmail.com>
	<1360044609.72496.YahooMailNeo@web192203.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>
	<CAC7wXFxQe8zRxukBjtNYyMDyy9W1Qnn51Hdyjr_PXuvsBxGwrw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1360123432.47075.YahooMailNeo@web192202.mail.sg3.yahoo.com>

I don't think i can make except?Saturday?this week , should be?available?next week any time.



With Thanks
Vijay


________________________________
 From: Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
To: vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2013 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Inpycon] CFP Dates
 
On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 11:40 AM, vijay <vnbang2003 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I can't make this Thursday,? can we make Tuesday Feb 12th ?

I'm away most of next week. How about this Friday?

Anand
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Thu Feb  7 10:13:47 2013
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2013 14:43:47 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference visa requirements
Message-ID: <87y5f0fpv8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>


http://pmindiaun.org/visa_documents_required.html#conf

2 months notice just to apply so we need to worry about this early if
we're getting a foreign keynote speaker.

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From anandology at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 10:19:54 2013
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:49:54 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference visa requirements
In-Reply-To: <87y5f0fpv8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
References: <87y5f0fpv8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
Message-ID: <CAC7wXFzb76XF8CbAi-rBHQsPHCGzAavaFTe53OoeCPuBOy+v6Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>
> http://pmindiaun.org/visa_documents_required.html#conf
>
> 2 months notice just to apply so we need to worry about this early if
> we're getting a foreign keynote speaker.

Quoting it:

---
Applicants for Conference Visa are required to provide the following documents :

Invitation Letter from the Organizer.
Event Clearance from the Ministry of Home Affairs.
Administrative approval of the Nodal Ministry.
Political Clearance from the Ministry of External Affairs.
Clearance from the State Government / UT concerned.

In case of certain nationals clearance is required to be obtained from
the concerned authorities before issuance of Conference Visas, which
could take time.
---

Isn't it insane to get approval from Ministry of Home Affairs and
Ministry of External Affairs just to speak at a tech conference?

Don't we have any better alternative?

Anand

From me at kracekumar.com  Thu Feb  7 10:26:34 2013
From: me at kracekumar.com (me kracekumar)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 14:56:34 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference visa requirements
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFzb76XF8CbAi-rBHQsPHCGzAavaFTe53OoeCPuBOy+v6Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87y5f0fpv8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<CAC7wXFzb76XF8CbAi-rBHQsPHCGzAavaFTe53OoeCPuBOy+v6Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALWxmCRRTSxCPidNkNuXSYLw0bc9+kDA8yvqXNyyMF+h-pC5+g@mail.gmail.com>

I remember Ashwan made research about this few months back, HasGeek
conference has few speakers flying down, probably it is good to ask Zainab
about this ?

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
> wrote:
> >
> > http://pmindiaun.org/visa_documents_required.html#conf
> >
> > 2 months notice just to apply so we need to worry about this early if
> > we're getting a foreign keynote speaker.
>
> Quoting it:
>
> ---
> Applicants for Conference Visa are required to provide the following
> documents :
>
> Invitation Letter from the Organizer.
> Event Clearance from the Ministry of Home Affairs.
> Administrative approval of the Nodal Ministry.
> Political Clearance from the Ministry of External Affairs.
> Clearance from the State Government / UT concerned.
>
> In case of certain nationals clearance is required to be obtained from
> the concerned authorities before issuance of Conference Visas, which
> could take time.
> ---
>
> Isn't it insane to get approval from Ministry of Home Affairs and
> Ministry of External Affairs just to speak at a tech conference?
>
> Don't we have any better alternative?
>
> Anand
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
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From me at kracekumar.com  Thu Feb  7 10:31:01 2013
From: me at kracekumar.com (me kracekumar)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 15:01:01 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference visa requirements
In-Reply-To: <CALWxmCRRTSxCPidNkNuXSYLw0bc9+kDA8yvqXNyyMF+h-pC5+g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87y5f0fpv8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<CAC7wXFzb76XF8CbAi-rBHQsPHCGzAavaFTe53OoeCPuBOy+v6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALWxmCRRTSxCPidNkNuXSYLw0bc9+kDA8yvqXNyyMF+h-pC5+g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CALWxmCR2si3fz+-uuvExQYYCiP4tppm01SNVK7kzno3TPJfS4A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, me kracekumar <me at kracekumar.com> wrote:

> I remember Ashwan made research about this few months back, HasGeek
> conference has few speakers flying down, probably it is good to ask Zainab
> about this ?
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > http://pmindiaun.org/visa_documents_required.html#conf
>> >
>> > 2 months notice just to apply so we need to worry about this early if
>> > we're getting a foreign keynote speaker.
>>
>> Quoting it:
>>
>> ---
>> Applicants for Conference Visa are required to provide the following
>> documents :
>>
>> Invitation Letter from the Organizer.
>> Event Clearance from the Ministry of Home Affairs.
>> Administrative approval of the Nodal Ministry.
>> Political Clearance from the Ministry of External Affairs.
>> Clearance from the State Government / UT concerned.
>>
>> In case of certain nationals clearance is required to be obtained from
>> the concerned authorities before issuance of Conference Visas, which
>> could take time.
>> ---
>>
>> Isn't it insane to get approval from Ministry of Home Affairs and
>> Ministry of External Affairs just to speak at a tech conference?
>>
>> Don't we have any better alternative?
>>
>>
Sorry, seems this is new rule.

> Anand
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
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From palakmathur at gmail.com  Thu Feb  7 15:05:45 2013
From: palakmathur at gmail.com (Palak Mathur)
Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2013 19:35:45 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference visa requirements
In-Reply-To: <CALWxmCR2si3fz+-uuvExQYYCiP4tppm01SNVK7kzno3TPJfS4A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87y5f0fpv8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<CAC7wXFzb76XF8CbAi-rBHQsPHCGzAavaFTe53OoeCPuBOy+v6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALWxmCRRTSxCPidNkNuXSYLw0bc9+kDA8yvqXNyyMF+h-pC5+g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALWxmCR2si3fz+-uuvExQYYCiP4tppm01SNVK7kzno3TPJfS4A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAFtxF+cGCUVyPudqQF9tT8xhtj4UC5=a4gHcV++uAjPoLDuqKQ@mail.gmail.com>

Read this FAQ on MHA's website:
http://mha.nic.in/pdfs/FAQs-on-ConferenceVisa.pdf

Regards,
Palak Mathur
http://palakmathur.in <http://palakmathur.github.com/>
http://aatmiyata.wordpress.com
http://palakclicks.wordpress.com



On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:01 PM, me kracekumar <me at kracekumar.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, me kracekumar <me at kracekumar.com> wrote:
>
>> I remember Ashwan made research about this few months back, HasGeek
>> conference has few speakers flying down, probably it is good to ask Zainab
>> about this ?
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > http://pmindiaun.org/visa_documents_required.html#conf
>>> >
>>> > 2 months notice just to apply so we need to worry about this early if
>>> > we're getting a foreign keynote speaker.
>>>
>>> Quoting it:
>>>
>>> ---
>>> Applicants for Conference Visa are required to provide the following
>>> documents :
>>>
>>> Invitation Letter from the Organizer.
>>> Event Clearance from the Ministry of Home Affairs.
>>> Administrative approval of the Nodal Ministry.
>>> Political Clearance from the Ministry of External Affairs.
>>> Clearance from the State Government / UT concerned.
>>>
>>> In case of certain nationals clearance is required to be obtained from
>>> the concerned authorities before issuance of Conference Visas, which
>>> could take time.
>>> ---
>>>
>>> Isn't it insane to get approval from Ministry of Home Affairs and
>>> Ministry of External Affairs just to speak at a tech conference?
>>>
>>> Don't we have any better alternative?
>>>
>>>
> Sorry, seems this is new rule.
>
>>  Anand
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Inpycon mailing list
>>> Inpycon at python.org
>>> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
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From jace at pobox.com  Fri Feb  8 11:12:02 2013
From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 15:42:02 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference visa requirements
In-Reply-To: <CAFtxF+cGCUVyPudqQF9tT8xhtj4UC5=a4gHcV++uAjPoLDuqKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <87y5f0fpv8.fsf@sanitarium.localdomain>
	<CAC7wXFzb76XF8CbAi-rBHQsPHCGzAavaFTe53OoeCPuBOy+v6Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALWxmCRRTSxCPidNkNuXSYLw0bc9+kDA8yvqXNyyMF+h-pC5+g@mail.gmail.com>
	<CALWxmCR2si3fz+-uuvExQYYCiP4tppm01SNVK7kzno3TPJfS4A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAFtxF+cGCUVyPudqQF9tT8xhtj4UC5=a4gHcV++uAjPoLDuqKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <F0624D8B275346C891837DEFA0A83619@gmail.com>

>From the FAQ:

Indian Missions are authorized to issue Conference visas to delegates on production of an invitation to a  conference/seminar/workshop being organized in India by a Ministry or Department of the  Government of India, State Governments or UT Administrations, Public Sector Undertakings, Central Educational Institutions,  Public Funded Universities (list of such institutions are available on the website www.education.nic.in and the websites of the University Grants Commission and Association of Indian Universities), or an organization owned and controlled by the Government of India or any State Government / UT, United Nations or its specialized agencies.

PyCon does not fall under any of these categories and therefore conference visas are not required. Regular tourist or business visas are sufficient.

If you are working with any agency that falls in the above categories, please ensure they do not send an invite to the speaker. This is what got us into trouble yesterday -- fixed at the last minute by sending a new invite while the speaker was in queue at the embassy.

Kiran 

-- 
Kiran Jonnalagadda
http://jace.zaiki.in/
http://hasgeek.com/


On Thursday, 7 February 2013 at 7:35 PM, Palak Mathur wrote:

> Read this FAQ on MHA's website: 
> http://mha.nic.in/pdfs/FAQs-on-ConferenceVisa.pdf
> 
> Regards,
> Palak Mathur
> http://palakmathur.in (http://palakmathur.github.com/)
> http://aatmiyata.wordpress.com
> http://palakclicks.wordpress.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:01 PM, me kracekumar <me at kracekumar.com (mailto:me at kracekumar.com)> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, me kracekumar <me at kracekumar.com (mailto:me at kracekumar.com)> wrote:
> > > I remember Ashwan made research about this few months back, HasGeek conference has few speakers flying down, probably it is good to ask Zainab about this ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com (mailto:anandology at gmail.com)> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in (mailto:noufal at nibrahim.net.in)> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://pmindiaun.org/visa_documents_required.html#conf
> > > > >
> > > > > 2 months notice just to apply so we need to worry about this early if
> > > > > we're getting a foreign keynote speaker.
> > > > 
> > > > Quoting it:
> > > > 
> > > > ---
> > > > Applicants for Conference Visa are required to provide the following documents :
> > > > 
> > > > Invitation Letter from the Organizer.
> > > > Event Clearance from the Ministry of Home Affairs.
> > > > Administrative approval of the Nodal Ministry.
> > > > Political Clearance from the Ministry of External Affairs.
> > > > Clearance from the State Government / UT concerned.
> > > > 
> > > > In case of certain nationals clearance is required to be obtained from
> > > > the concerned authorities before issuance of Conference Visas, which
> > > > could take time.
> > > > ---
> > > > 
> > > > Isn't it insane to get approval from Ministry of Home Affairs and
> > > > Ministry of External Affairs just to speak at a tech conference?
> > > > 
> > > > Don't we have any better alternative?
> > > > 
> > 
> > Sorry, seems this is new rule.  
> > > > Anand
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Inpycon mailing list
> > > > Inpycon at python.org (mailto:Inpycon at python.org)
> > > > http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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From anandology at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 12:22:57 2013
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:52:57 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference visa requirements
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On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Kiran Jonnalagadda <jace at pobox.com> wrote:
> From the FAQ:
>
> Indian Missions are authorized to issue Conference visas to delegates on
> production of an invitation to a  conference/seminar/workshop being
> organized in India by a Ministry or Department of the  Government of India,
> State Governments or UT Administrations, Public Sector Undertakings, Central
> Educational Institutions,  Public Funded Universities (list of such
> institutions are available on the website www.education.nic.in and the
> websites of the University Grants Commission and Association of Indian
> Universities), or an organization owned and controlled by the Government of
> India or any State Government / UT, United Nations or its specialized
> agencies.
>
> PyCon does not fall under any of these categories and therefore conference
> visas are not required. Regular tourist or business visas are sufficient.
>
> If you are working with any agency that falls in the above categories,
> please ensure they do not send an invite to the speaker. This is what got us
> into trouble yesterday -- fixed at the last minute by sending a new invite
> while the speaker was in queue at the embassy.

That section was followed by:

(ii)      If the conference/ seminar/ workshop is sponsored by an
NGO or a private institution, the Mission should scrutinize the
background of the NGO/private institution and grant visa to the
participants except in cases indicated in sub-para (iii) below.

It clearly indicate that PyCon falls into this category.

And section (iii) is for people coming from Afghanistan, China, Iran,
Pakistan etc. and that requires additional clearance from  Ministry of
External Affairs and  Ministry of Home Affairs.

We don't have to worry about this.

Anand

From palakmathur at gmail.com  Fri Feb  8 20:38:27 2013
From: palakmathur at gmail.com (Palak Mathur)
Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 01:08:27 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference visa requirements
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Not tourist Visas. Business Visas. Using tourist Visa for attending
conferences/seminars, in my opinion, will breach the laws. Let us consult
some lawyer regarding this who can give us correct stand of the law.

Sent via Samsung Galaxy S II
On Feb 8, 2013 3:42 PM, "Kiran Jonnalagadda" <jace at pobox.com> wrote:

> From the FAQ:
>
> Indian Missions are authorized to issue Conference visas to delegates on
> production of an invitation to a  conference/seminar/workshop being
> organized in India by a Ministry or Department of the  Government of India,
> State Governments or UT Administrations, Public Sector
> Undertakings, Central Educational Institutions,  Public Funded Universities
> (list of such institutions are available on the website
> www.education.nic.in and the websites of the University Grants Commission
> and Association of Indian Universities), or an organization owned and
> controlled by the Government of India or any State Government / UT, United
> Nations or its specialized agencies.
>
> PyCon does not fall under any of these categories and therefore conference
> visas are not required. Regular tourist or business visas are sufficient.
>
> If you are working with any agency that falls in the above categories,
> please ensure they do not send an invite to the speaker. This is what got
> us into trouble yesterday -- fixed at the last minute by sending a new
> invite while the speaker was in queue at the embassy.
>
> Kiran
>
> --
> Kiran Jonnalagadda
> http://jace.zaiki.in/
> http://hasgeek.com/
>
> On Thursday, 7 February 2013 at 7:35 PM, Palak Mathur wrote:
>
> Read this FAQ on MHA's website:
> http://mha.nic.in/pdfs/FAQs-on-ConferenceVisa.pdf
>
> Regards,
> Palak Mathur
> http://palakmathur.in <http://palakmathur.github.com/>
> http://aatmiyata.wordpress.com
> http://palakclicks.wordpress.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:01 PM, me kracekumar <me at kracekumar.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, me kracekumar <me at kracekumar.com> wrote:
>
> I remember Ashwan made research about this few months back, HasGeek
> conference has few speakers flying down, probably it is good to ask Zainab
> about this ?
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
> wrote:
> >
> > http://pmindiaun.org/visa_documents_required.html#conf
> >
> > 2 months notice just to apply so we need to worry about this early if
> > we're getting a foreign keynote speaker.
>
> Quoting it:
>
> ---
> Applicants for Conference Visa are required to provide the following
> documents :
>
> Invitation Letter from the Organizer.
> Event Clearance from the Ministry of Home Affairs.
> Administrative approval of the Nodal Ministry.
> Political Clearance from the Ministry of External Affairs.
> Clearance from the State Government / UT concerned.
>
> In case of certain nationals clearance is required to be obtained from
> the concerned authorities before issuance of Conference Visas, which
> could take time.
> ---
>
> Isn't it insane to get approval from Ministry of Home Affairs and
> Ministry of External Affairs just to speak at a tech conference?
>
> Don't we have any better alternative?
>
>
> Sorry, seems this is new rule.
>
>  Anand
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>
>
>
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>
>
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From palakmathur at gmail.com  Sat Feb  9 19:53:42 2013
From: palakmathur at gmail.com (Palak Mathur)
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 00:23:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference visa requirements
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Not tourist Visas. Business Visas. Using tourist Visa for attending
conferences/seminars, in my opinion, will breach the laws. Let us consult
some lawyer regarding this who can give us correct stand of the law.

Sent via Samsung Galaxy S II
On Feb 8, 2013 3:42 PM, "Kiran Jonnalagadda" <jace at pobox.com> wrote:

>From the FAQ:

Indian Missions are authorized to issue Conference visas to delegates on
production of an invitation to a  conference/seminar/workshop being
organized in India by a Ministry or Department of the  Government of India,
State Governments or UT Administrations, Public Sector
Undertakings, Central Educational Institutions,  Public Funded Universities
(list of such institutions are available on the website
www.education.nic.inand the websites of the University Grants
Commission and Association of
Indian Universities), or an organization owned and controlled by the
Government of India or any State Government / UT, United Nations or its
specialized agencies.

PyCon does not fall under any of these categories and therefore conference
visas are not required. Regular tourist or business visas are sufficient.

If you are working with any agency that falls in the above categories,
please ensure they do not send an invite to the speaker. This is what got
us into trouble yesterday -- fixed at the last minute by sending a new
invite while the speaker was in queue at the embassy.

Kiran

-- 
Kiran Jonnalagadda
http://jace.zaiki.in/
http://hasgeek.com/

On Thursday, 7 February 2013 at 7:35 PM, Palak Mathur wrote:

Read this FAQ on MHA's website:
http://mha.nic.in/pdfs/FAQs-on-ConferenceVisa.pdf

Regards,
Palak Mathur
http://palakmathur.in <http://palakmathur.github.com/>
http://aatmiyata.wordpress.com
http://palakclicks.wordpress.com



On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 3:01 PM, me kracekumar <me at kracekumar.com> wrote:



On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:56 PM, me kracekumar <me at kracekumar.com> wrote:

I remember Ashwan made research about this few months back, HasGeek
conference has few speakers flying down, probably it is good to ask Zainab
about this ?


On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:49 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>wrote:

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:
>
> http://pmindiaun.org/visa_documents_required.html#conf
>
> 2 months notice just to apply so we need to worry about this early if
> we're getting a foreign keynote speaker.

Quoting it:

---
Applicants for Conference Visa are required to provide the following
documents :

Invitation Letter from the Organizer.
Event Clearance from the Ministry of Home Affairs.
Administrative approval of the Nodal Ministry.
Political Clearance from the Ministry of External Affairs.
Clearance from the State Government / UT concerned.

In case of certain nationals clearance is required to be obtained from
the concerned authorities before issuance of Conference Visas, which
could take time.
---

Isn't it insane to get approval from Ministry of Home Affairs and
Ministry of External Affairs just to speak at a tech conference?

Don't we have any better alternative?


Sorry, seems this is new rule.

 Anand
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Wed Feb 13 14:32:35 2013
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 19:02:35 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [X-post] Pycon India meeting on IRC.
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Hello everyone,
        Sorry about the cross posting but this needs a wide audience. 

        Let's get the ball rolling for PyCon India with an IRC meeting
this Friday (15/Feb) at 1900 on IRC.

        The channel is #python-india on irc.freenode.net (not
#pythonindia).

Thanks


        



-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From me at kracekumar.com  Wed Feb 13 18:12:33 2013
From: me at kracekumar.com (me kracekumar)
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 22:42:33 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] [X-post] Pycon India meeting on IRC.
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+1

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:02 PM, Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>wrote:

>
> Hello everyone,
>         Sorry about the cross posting but this needs a wide audience.
>
>         Let's get the ball rolling for PyCon India with an IRC meeting
> this Friday (15/Feb) at 1900 on IRC.
>
>         The channel is #python-india on irc.freenode.net (not
> #pythonindia).
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Cordially,
> Noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
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From vnbang2003 at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 14 03:49:12 2013
From: vnbang2003 at yahoo.com (vijay)
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 10:49:12 +0800 (SGT)
Subject: [Inpycon] [BangPypers] [X-post] Pycon India meeting on IRC.
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+1


________________________________
 From: Noufal Ibrahim <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
To: Python Pune <pythonpune at googlegroups.com>; Bangalore Python Users Group <bangpypers at python.org>; Mailing list for the PyCon India conference <inpycon at python.org>; chennaipy <chennaipy at googlegroups.com>; Kerala Python User Group <python-kerala at googlegroups.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, 13 February 2013 7:02 PM
Subject: [BangPypers] [X-post] Pycon India meeting on IRC.
 

Hello everyone,
? ? ? ? Sorry about the cross posting but this needs a wide audience. 

? ? ? ? Let's get the ball rolling for PyCon India with an IRC meeting
this Friday (15/Feb) at 1900 on IRC.

? ? ? ? The channel is #python-india on irc.freenode.net (not
#pythonindia).

Thanks


? ? ? ? 



-- 
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From jace at pobox.com  Fri Feb 15 16:43:46 2013
From: jace at pobox.com (Kiran Jonnalagadda)
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:13:46 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Conference visa requirements
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On Sunday, 10 February 2013 at 12:23 AM, Palak Mathur wrote:
> Not tourist Visas. Business Visas. Using tourist Visa for attending conferences/seminars, in my opinion, will breach the laws. Let us consult some lawyer regarding this who can give us correct stand of the law.
> 
> 


So it's illegal for a tourist to walk into an interesting event that they happened to hear about on their trip? That doesn't sound right.

A business visa is required when there's a business angle -- such as a local entity reimbursing for travel and stay. Else a tourist visa will work fine.

Kiran
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