[Inpycon] Everybody Pays Policy

[Anand B Pillai]

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On Thursday 26 September 2013 05:21 PM, atul jha wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Noufal Ibrahim
> <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>wrote:
> 
>> atul jha <koolhead17 at gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>> 
>> [...]
>>> I doubt everyone in team thinks same way otherwise this would
>>> not have come this far.
>> [...]
>> 
>> This is getting pointlessly tiresome.
>> 
>> Indeed.
> 
> 
>> Most of the people *do* think this way and that's why PyCon India
>> has been conducted for 5 years now and has grown into a big
>> event. People pitch in when there's a call for volunteers and
>> help out.
>> 
>> If you're accusing me or someone else on the list about
>> something, come clean and say exactly what the problem is.
>> 
>> Read your previous mails & you will realize.
> 
>> If you think I and a few others run a secret cabal here that
>> pulls strings and runs PyCon India while blackballing the general
>> community, say so.
>> 
> Its how you assumed.
> 
>> 
>> If you're dissatisfied with the way something is being organised,
>> or see some kind of scope for improvement, specify exactly what
>> and pitch in at any time. Knowing how short handed we always are,
>> no one here refuses help.
>> 
>> Is that what i was not doing in this mail thread?
> 
>> If you expect everyone to accept your (rather naive)
>> recommendations without questioning them, I'm sorry, that's not
>> going to happen. People who've been on this list for a while know
>> who are doing all the work and whose suggestions are backed by
>> action.
>> 
> Well does that means if someone new coming to list with some ideas
> he is an outsider? All your replies points same way.

Let me put it this way. E-mails are not the best medium for keeping up
a continuous conversation. Mailing lists are especially notorious for
fragmenting a line of discussion - because you tend to loose your
original line of thought as threads come in from the side etc.

Anway I am digressing.

The thing is, let us face it - People are reluctant to change. So
perhaps a good way to try and change the thinking or introduce new
ideas is a "gentle nudge" rather than a "forceful entry".
I hope I am making sense.

The most ideal way to build a productive conversation would be
to start presenting your idea using the approach of least resistance.

(Suffer me a bit more.)

If you look back to your first post, you started off by

"
Who & why was it decided to charge fees for volunteers and speakers?

Is it because sponsorship money not sufficient? Is there any blog/mail
provides description/info about the overall expenditure of the event?
"

Not very diplomatic I think.

> 
>> 
>> The bottom line is if you have something constructive to say, do
>> so. If you have time to pitch in, do so. If you want to criticise
>> something about the conference or PSSI work, do so. If, on the
>> other hand, all you're interested in is hurling accusations at
>> people and making a ruckus, just don't.
>> 
>> Well now you are talking about PSSI. All this while it was <U>
> Am happy something is changing.

Sure, maybe you are. We do need inputs, ideas and suggestions but
for the general good environment of the mailing list and to make sure
your ideas are recieved positively, may I suggest "gentle nudges"
and "incremental suggestions" than "in-your-face-questions" ?


Hope I was helpful.
> 
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>> Cordially, Noufal http://nibrahim.net.in
>> 
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