[Inpycon] How to send mail to previous year attendees

Bibhas Ch Debnath me at bibhas.in
Tue Feb 11 14:28:53 CET 2014


Hi Pranjal,

You app asks for access to my Google account without even showing me
anything. That's not really a good practice. I'm not going to provide a
random app access to my data like this.

That aside, this year PyCon US had a trouble with their mailing system and
a great percentage of mails ended up in spam box. So I'm a bit skeptical
about using an untested application for mass mailing and also entrusting
with the email addresses of all our participants. Mailchimp has been out
there for a while and proven itself useful and trustworthy.

If asked to choose between Mailchimp and your app for this particular task,
I'd use Mailchimp. Maybe we can use your service for some smaller task
later on.

And please, update your app to at least tell something about itself before
asking for people's data. Give your user a choice.

Just my view. Please take as a feedback from a would-be user and not a
mailchimp fanboy. :)

Thanks,
Bibhas


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Thanks,
Bibhas Debnath
http://bibhas.in


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:05 PM, Pranjal Mittal <mittal.pranjal at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello Baiju / Krace,
>
> I can help with sending the emails.
>
> I am a part of the Makemymails project*.* [1] (A Google Cloud Developer
> Challenge 2013 Finalist) Makemymails is an email marketing tool, useful to
> send automated, personalized emails or notifications. It is built to handle
> spam and routing from any SMTP server of choice, or gmail or Google Apps
> account.
>
> All that is required is data in Google Spreadsheet format and one common
> email template.
> *Step by step documentation is available here
> <https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46611567/MakemymailsUserDocumentationv2.4.pdf>.* [2] Makemymails
> can be easily used by anyone.
> If any help is required from my side too, I would be glad to help.
> *I am happy to volunteer this task of sending emails to previous year
> Pycon  attendees.* (Let me know if I can help)
>
>
> P.S:
> Let me know if Makemymails could be useful; and I can arrange an
> invitation code for unrestricted usage of Makemymails for Pycon work
> without any cost.
>
>
> *Some Makemymails features:*
>
>    - It supports personalized emails and direct reading of recipient data
>    from Google Spreadsheets or excel files. (No import / export)
>    - More flexibility with adding custom user data over *Mailchimp*. You
>    can have any number of columns in the excel file of any datatype and this
>    data can be used in a common email template.
>    - Mail scheduling (future email delivery) is also allowed.
>    - Subject level customization, Subject of the email can include
>    recipient names too, which greatly reduces spam classication chance.
>    - Analytics of sent emails / cancelling scheduled emails.
>    - Use same Google Spreadsheet to send different emails at a later
>    point of time.(Saves time; Useful for our Pycon use case)
>    - (Limitations: Is in Beta; Only small attachments supported; only
>    public inline images can be added to emails.)
>
> [1] http://makemymails.com/
> https://www.google.com/events/gcdc2013/finalists.html
>
> [2]
> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/46611567/MakemymailsUserDocumentationv2.4.pdf
>
>
> Best Regards,
> - Pranjal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 4:43 PM, me kracekumar <me at kracekumar.com> wrote:
>
>> That should work. Though we may be syncing the 2014 participants often.
>> Will ping whenever it is required.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:27 PM, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry read it as
>>>   Will share with you attendee list offline. Will that work ?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:26 PM, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Will share you offline csv from doattend . Will that work ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:16 PM, me kracekumar <me at kracekumar.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Baiju
>>>>>
>>>>>  I will create mailchimp account tonight. Can someone share doattend
>>>>> credentials offline for importing previous years participant details ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 for using MailChimp
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not familiar with this (I have used sendgrid before), so please
>>>>>> go ahead and setup
>>>>>> an account in MailChimp. I will try to spend some time today evening
>>>>>> with this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:12 AM, me kracekumar <me at kracekumar.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> > Yes, DoAttend provides a way to download previous year attendees
>>>>>> list in csv
>>>>>> > format. We need to extract email addresses. I can help with this.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > I would suggest using MailChimp to send emails. We can create a
>>>>>> list for
>>>>>> > every year participants and mail them. Reason to use Mailchimp
>>>>>> > (http://mailchimp.com/pricing/) is protection from spam. We don't
>>>>>> want our
>>>>>> > emails to end up in spam directory. We can create other related
>>>>>> lists for
>>>>>> > bulk emailing. One issue we may face is payment for mailchimp,
>>>>>> since we
>>>>>> > don't have credit card (if we cross email cap). It is also possible
>>>>>> to write
>>>>>> > to mailchimp and ask for discounts.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:59 AM, Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> May be hosting is not really required, I will run the scripts
>>>>>> locally.
>>>>>> >> The source code will be here:
>>>>>> https://github.com/pythonindia/pyconindia
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:50 AM, Baiju M <baiju.m.mail at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >> > Hi Anand,
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > That's a good idea. Now where do we host it ?  If we have any
>>>>>> existing
>>>>>> >> > server,
>>>>>> >> > we can use it.  Please provide me access details.
>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >> > On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Anand Chitipothu
>>>>>> >> > <anandology at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Baiju M <
>>>>>> baiju.m.mail at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Hi Krace,
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> How we do reach out to previous year attendees ?
>>>>>> >> >>> Is there any feature provided by DoAttend for this ?
>>>>>> >> >>> Or should we automate it through some scripts.
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> Anyway I have created a private repo
>>>>>> >> >>> and shared it with you to manage some scripts
>>>>>> >> >>> and various email addresses.
>>>>>> >> >>> I made it private so that we don't need to share
>>>>>> >> >>> all email address in public repos.
>>>>>> >> >>> https://bitbucket.org/pythonindia/pyconindia
>>>>>> >> >>>
>>>>>> >> >>> (BTW, GitHub has private repos for organizations, but costs
>>>>>> >> >>> $25 per month.  May be we can think about that later)
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Isn't it better to keep the email addresses in a database and
>>>>>> keep the
>>>>>> >> >> code
>>>>>> >> >> open?
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >> Anand
>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>> >> >>
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > --
>>>>>> > Regards
>>>>>> > Kracekumar
>>>>>> > http://kracekumar.com
>>>>>> > +91 85530 29521
>>>>>> >
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Kracekumar
>>>>> http://kracekumar.com
>>>>> +91 85530 29521
>>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Vijay kumar Bang
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Regards
>> Kracekumar
>> http://kracekumar.com
>> +91 85530 29521
>>
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>
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> Best Regards,
> Pranjal Mittal
> B.Tech.  2014
> Indian Institute of Technology,BHU
> Varanasi, U.P,
> India
>
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