From akshayaurora at gmail.com  Fri May  6 05:26:08 2016
From: akshayaurora at gmail.com (qua non)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 14:56:08 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
Message-ID: <CAPztPCc-YJ48yNbdHRn6jHcPGtoScDDukCXnLtPhzAmaq_t1=Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Folks,

In case not all of you are aware the current slowdown in interaction with
the mailing list for PyCon related tasks is cause we had a setback.

Our existing booking for the SriFort was cancelled by Sri fort Authorities
cause they have their own function that conflicts with our dates.

They have further increased the booking price to be exactly double of what
it was earlier. We have been looking for and have been in talks with other
venues since then.

In our efforts have have looked at almost every other place possible in
delhi most are either not available or not big enough for our needs, we
need main audi with 1000+ seating and two secondary halls with 300, 200
seating.

We are currently in talks with IIT Delhi to book Dogra hall and
accompanying seminar halls for this purpose. We are also in talks with
people from J.P University in Noida for this purpose

Currently our efforts are not really getting us anywhere so this is a call
to the people out in the community.* **If some of you folks have some
contacts in a place that you can get us a booking then please contact us
and help out.***

Backup we are booking JNU, Convention Center if nothing else goes through.
It has a seating capacity of hall 1 350 + hall 2 350. Lecture hall 1 150,
Lecture Hall 2 150, Meeting room 60+.

We are already past the deadline for Venue bookings so we will be
finalizing the booking wishing the next seven days.
If some one has contacts inside IIT Delhi  or can help us some other
similar capacity halls please contact us.

Regards
Akkshay
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From anandology at gmail.com  Fri May  6 09:18:56 2016
From: anandology at gmail.com (Anand Chitipothu)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 18:48:56 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <CAPztPCc-YJ48yNbdHRn6jHcPGtoScDDukCXnLtPhzAmaq_t1=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPztPCc-YJ48yNbdHRn6jHcPGtoScDDukCXnLtPhzAmaq_t1=Q@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM, qua non <akshayaurora at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
>
> In case not all of you are aware the current slowdown in interaction with
> the mailing list for PyCon related tasks is cause we had a setback.
>
> Our existing booking for the SriFort was cancelled by Sri fort Authorities
> cause they have their own function that conflicts with our dates.
>
> They have further increased the booking price to be exactly double of what
> it was earlier. We have been looking for and have been in talks with other
> venues since then.
>

Thats insane. Are they not even ready to consider some other dates with the
same price since we have already booked in advance?

In our efforts have have looked at almost every other place possible in
> delhi most are either not available or not big enough for our needs, we
> need main audi with 1000+ seating and two secondary halls with 300, 200
> seating.
>
> We are currently in talks with IIT Delhi to book Dogra hall and
> accompanying seminar halls for this purpose. We are also in talks with
> people from J.P University in Noida for this purpose
>
> Currently our efforts are not really getting us anywhere so this is a call
> to the people out in the community.* **If some of you folks have some
> contacts in a place that you can get us a booking then please contact us
> and help out.***
>
> Backup we are booking JNU, Convention Center if nothing else goes through.
> It has a seating capacity of hall 1 350 + hall 2 350. Lecture hall 1 150,
> Lecture Hall 2 150, Meeting room 60+.
>

350 + 350 is quite decent IMHO.

Please tweet about it and RT from pyconindia account. Lets spread it and
see if we get any leads.


> We are already past the deadline for Venue bookings so we will be
> finalizing the booking wishing the next seven days.
> If some one has contacts inside IIT Delhi  or can help us some other
> similar capacity halls please contact us.
>

All the best!

Anand
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From akshayaurora at gmail.com  Fri May  6 13:58:02 2016
From: akshayaurora at gmail.com (qua non)
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 23:28:02 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFw16bpF1H6fNE20j0FC1rsdZOMEvPLjpKORNfgGt9xnxw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM, qua non <akshayaurora at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> In case not all of you are aware the current slowdown in interaction with
>> the mailing list for PyCon related tasks is cause we had a setback.
>>
>> Our existing booking for the SriFort was cancelled by Sri fort
>> Authorities cause they have their own function that conflicts with our
>> dates.
>>
>> They have further increased the booking price to be exactly double of
>> what it was earlier. We have been looking for and have been in talks with
>> other venues since then.
>>
>
> Thats insane. Are they not even ready to consider some other dates with
> the same price since we have already booked in advance?
>

As far as they are concerned it's not their problem.


>
> In our efforts have have looked at almost every other place possible in
>> delhi most are either not available or not big enough for our needs, we
>> need main audi with 1000+ seating and two secondary halls with 300, 200
>> seating.
>>
>> We are currently in talks with IIT Delhi to book Dogra hall and
>> accompanying seminar halls for this purpose. We are also in talks with
>> people from J.P University in Noida for this purpose
>>
>> Currently our efforts are not really getting us anywhere so this is a
>> call to the people out in the community.* **If some of you folks have
>> some contacts in a place that you can get us a booking then please contact
>> us and help out.***
>>
>> Backup we are booking JNU, Convention Center if nothing else goes
>> through. It has a seating capacity of hall 1 350 + hall 2 350. Lecture hall
>> 1 150, Lecture Hall 2 150, Meeting room 60+.
>>
>
> 350 + 350 is quite decent IMHO.
>

I f we can't get any other option then we will go through with JNU.


All the best!


Thanks.


Regards
Akkshay
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From gora at mimirtech.com  Fri May  6 23:46:17 2016
From: gora at mimirtech.com (Gora Mohanty)
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 09:16:17 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <CAPztPCfCXTmX9stmT9+dgAwZze6y4rxn31isVRvvL3fqbgN1AQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPztPCc-YJ48yNbdHRn6jHcPGtoScDDukCXnLtPhzAmaq_t1=Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAC7wXFw16bpF1H6fNE20j0FC1rsdZOMEvPLjpKORNfgGt9xnxw@mail.gmail.com>
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Dear Akshay,

I am afraid that the person my uncle knew is no longer at IIT-Delhi. He is
trying to see if he knows anyone else, and I am also looking up Mr. Wagesh
Shukla who used to be at IIT-Delhi (retired now), and used to be an
open-source proponent.

Regards,
Gora


On 6 May 2016 at 23:28, qua non <akshayaurora at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:56 PM, qua non <akshayaurora at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> In case not all of you are aware the current slowdown in interaction
>>> with the mailing list for PyCon related tasks is cause we had a setback.
>>>
>>> Our existing booking for the SriFort was cancelled by Sri fort
>>> Authorities cause they have their own function that conflicts with our
>>> dates.
>>>
>>> They have further increased the booking price to be exactly double of
>>> what it was earlier. We have been looking for and have been in talks with
>>> other venues since then.
>>>
>>
>> Thats insane. Are they not even ready to consider some other dates with
>> the same price since we have already booked in advance?
>>
>
> As far as they are concerned it's not their problem.
>
>
>>
>> In our efforts have have looked at almost every other place possible in
>>> delhi most are either not available or not big enough for our needs, we
>>> need main audi with 1000+ seating and two secondary halls with 300, 200
>>> seating.
>>>
>>> We are currently in talks with IIT Delhi to book Dogra hall and
>>> accompanying seminar halls for this purpose. We are also in talks with
>>> people from J.P University in Noida for this purpose
>>>
>>> Currently our efforts are not really getting us anywhere so this is a
>>> call to the people out in the community.* **If some of you folks have
>>> some contacts in a place that you can get us a booking then please contact
>>> us and help out.***
>>>
>>> Backup we are booking JNU, Convention Center if nothing else goes
>>> through. It has a seating capacity of hall 1 350 + hall 2 350. Lecture hall
>>> 1 150, Lecture Hall 2 150, Meeting room 60+.
>>>
>>
>> 350 + 350 is quite decent IMHO.
>>
>
> I f we can't get any other option then we will go through with JNU.
>
>
> All the best!
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Regards
> Akkshay
>
>
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Sat May  7 03:59:58 2016
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Sat, 07 May 2016 13:29:58 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <CAC7wXFw16bpF1H6fNE20j0FC1rsdZOMEvPLjpKORNfgGt9xnxw@mail.gmail.com>
 (Anand Chitipothu's message of "Fri, 6 May 2016 18:48:56 +0530")
References: <CAPztPCc-YJ48yNbdHRn6jHcPGtoScDDukCXnLtPhzAmaq_t1=Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <87r3demh6p.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Fri, May 06 2016, Anand Chitipothu wrote:


[...]

>> It has a seating capacity of hall 1 350 + hall 2 350. Lecture hall 1 150,
>> Lecture Hall 2 150, Meeting room 60+.
>>
>
> 350 + 350 is quite decent IMHO.

I agree. Perhaps this is a good time to experiment with a smaller
conference and focus on quality of presentations etc. rather than
quantity. 

[...]


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com  Sat May  7 04:36:33 2016
From: deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com (Jaidev Deshpande)
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 14:06:33 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <87r3demh6p.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
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On Sat, May 7, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

> On Fri, May 06 2016, Anand Chitipothu wrote:
>
>
> [...]
>
> >> It has a seating capacity of hall 1 350 + hall 2 350. Lecture hall 1
> 150,
> >> Lecture Hall 2 150, Meeting room 60+.
> >>
> >
> > 350 + 350 is quite decent IMHO.
>
> I agree. Perhaps this is a good time to experiment with a smaller
> conference and focus on quality of presentations etc. rather than
> quantity.
>
> [...]
>

+1

One of the best PyCons I've been to, was in 2011, which was also, AFAIK,
the smallest PyCon.


>
>
> --
> Cordially,
> Noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
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> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Sun May  8 00:42:07 2016
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Sun, 08 May 2016 10:12:07 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <CAB=suE=kutG2SKAY52TQ87EpHpCPjbmYkFhcWcyOcvwATW2h4g@mail.gmail.com>
 (Jaidev Deshpande's message of "Sat, 7 May 2016 14:06:33 +0530")
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On Sat, May 07 2016, Jaidev Deshpande wrote:

[...]

> +1
>
> One of the best PyCons I've been to, was in 2011, which was also,
> AFAIK, the smallest PyCon.

[...]

I supped with some new friends last week and PyCon India came up. They
had similar sentiments. 
Their feedback had 3 points. 
 - The size is too much. It feels very impersonal. This is perhaps okay
   since when size is big, people form cliques and smaller groups by
   themselves.
 - The talk quality is low. Very basic talks ("build your first website
   in Django" etc.). These talks are not useful for experienced people
   (since they already know all this) and not for beginners (since they
   usually need more than 30-40 minutes to learn something like
   this). This can be fixed by disallowing first time speakers and
   absolute intro topics.
 - The general audience "quality is low" (this should probably be
   rephrased more accurately). One of the chaps I spoke to mentioned
   some heckler who gave a speaker a hard time about the semantics of
   the id function. Of course, we can't police the people who attend but
   projecting the whole event as something that's on the advanced side
   for experienced people might have positive benefits. 

As I mentioned in an earlier email, this might be a bad direction but
it's atleast worth an experiment and given the circumstances right now,
I think it's a good time to try. 

So basically, less (simple) talks, less (first timer) people, higher
quality.

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From dtu.amit at gmail.com  Sun May  8 01:41:37 2016
From: dtu.amit at gmail.com (AMiT Kumar)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 11:11:37 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <87oa8hw480.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
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On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

> On Sat, May 07 2016, Jaidev Deshpande wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> I supped with some new friends last week and PyCon India came up. They
> had similar sentiments.
> Their feedback had 3 points.
>  - The size is too much. It feels very impersonal. This is perhaps okay
>

I feel this is good.


>    since when size is big, people form cliques and smaller groups by
>    themselves.

 - The talk quality is low. Very basic talks ("build your first website
>    in Django" etc.). These talks are not useful for experienced people
>    (since they already know all this) and not for beginners (since they
>    usually need more than 30-40 minutes to learn something like
>    this). This can be fixed by disallowing first time speakers and
>

I strongly disagree with this, every great speaker have his first talk
someday & there is no proven research that experienced speakers deliver
great talks. We should learn from conferences like DjangoCon which
encourages first time speakers and there is no doubt that's a great
conference.


>    absolute intro topics.
>  - The general audience "quality is low" (this should probably be
>

I don't understand what they mean by quality. How do you measure quality?
Do you call beginners as bad audience or veterans as great audience? If
that's so, I still disagree. Nevertheless it's very subjective to say that.


>    rephrased more accurately). One of the chaps I spoke to mentioned
>    some heckler who gave a speaker a hard time about the semantics of
>    the id function. Of course, we can't police the people who attend but
>    projecting the whole event as something that's on the advanced side
>    for experienced people might have positive benefits.
>

I don't see this as a solution to the problem you mentioned.


>
> As I mentioned in an earlier email, this might be a bad direction but
>

+1 Yes, it is.


> it's atleast worth an experiment and given the circumstances right now,
> I think it's a good time to try.
>
> So basically, less (simple) talks, less (first timer) people, higher
> quality.
>
>
-1


> --
> Cordially,
> Noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
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>


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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Sun May  8 01:58:45 2016
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Sun, 08 May 2016 11:28:45 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
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On Sun, May 08 2016, AMiT Kumar wrote:


[...]

> I strongly disagree with this, every great speaker have his first talk
> someday & there is no proven research that experienced speakers
> deliver great talks. We should learn from conferences like DjangoCon
> which encourages first time speakers and there is no doubt that's a
> great conference.


Of course. But I don't think we should use or allow a once in a year
event for people to practice their speaking skills. 

People should speak at local user group meetups, smaller events etc. and
have some experience. 

It's very frustrating to spend time and money and attend a once a year
large event and see speakers presenting extremely basic talks.

I've never been to DjangoCon or watched recorded talks from the event so
I can't compare.

[...]

> How do you measure quality?

Audience feedback. If a lot of people who attend a conference say that
the quality is low, it's low (regardless of any internal metrics I
have). When people say that "I've been skipping PyCon India since the
talk quality is low", there's a problem that needs to be fixed. 

[...]

In any case, I've pursued this line of argument before and met with
opposition similar to what you've raised and it was shot down. I bring
it up only because we seem to be in a situation because of which the
size of conference will be constrained due to reasons beyond our
control. If that happens, this might be a good thing to try. And again,
it's based on speaking to attendees. The "low talk quality" feedback has
been there for a while now.

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From ankur0493 at gmail.com  Sun May  8 01:55:59 2016
From: ankur0493 at gmail.com (Ankur Gupta)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 11:25:59 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <87oa8hw480.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
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Hi,

On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

> [..]
>
> So basically, less (simple) talks, less (first timer) people, higher
> quality.


Among the many other objectives of a conference like Pycon, I believe
promoting the use of the language among new users is one. What you are
suggesting means having a conference just for the much experience folks.
Aren't you, in effect, suggesting that the user base of the language
should *not
*be expanded?

-- 
Best Regards,
Ankur Gupta
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From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Sun May  8 02:12:58 2016
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Sun, 08 May 2016 11:42:58 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
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On Sun, May 08 2016, Ankur Gupta wrote:


[...]

> Among the many other objectives of a conference like Pycon, I believe
> promoting the use of the language among new users is one. What you are
> suggesting means having a conference just for the much experience
> folks.  Aren't you, in effect, suggesting that the user base of the
> language should *not *be expanded?

No I'm not and I don't have the time or inclination to rehash all my old
arguments. They're there in the list archives for everyone interested.

-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From dtu.amit at gmail.com  Sun May  8 02:18:35 2016
From: dtu.amit at gmail.com (AMiT Kumar)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 11:48:35 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <87zis1um3u.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <CAPztPCc-YJ48yNbdHRn6jHcPGtoScDDukCXnLtPhzAmaq_t1=Q@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in>
wrote:

> On Sun, May 08 2016, AMiT Kumar wrote:
>
>
> [...]
>
> Of course. But I don't think we should use or allow a once in a year
> event for people to practice their speaking skills.
>
> People should speak at local user group meetups, smaller events etc. and
> have some experience.
>

+1 Thanks for pointing out this, I felt it to be previous PyCon's.


> [...]
>
> > How do you measure quality?
>
> Audience feedback. If a lot of people who attend a conference say that
> the quality is low, it's low (regardless of any internal metrics I
> have). When people say that "I've been skipping PyCon India since the
> talk quality is low", there's a problem that needs to be fixed.
>
>
I didn't saw the feedback of last year's PyCon, That's very disheartening.


> [...]
>
> In any case, I've pursued this line of argument before and met with
> opposition similar to what you've raised and it was shot down. I bring
> it up only because we seem to be in a situation because of which the
> size of conference will be constrained due to reasons beyond our
> control. If that happens, this might be a good thing to try. And again,
> it's based on speaking to attendees. The "low talk quality" feedback has
> been there for a while now.
>
>
I understand your concerns & agree with a lot of them & all I conclude from
it is having an intelligent talk/workshop selection panel & a firm policy
for selection of better talks & workshops (no selection of talks based on
friends & personal opinions). This alone can lead to a great PyCon, IMO.


> --
> Cordially,
> Noufal
> http://nibrahim.net.in
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>

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From chintukoshy at gmail.com  Sun May  8 02:34:42 2016
From: chintukoshy at gmail.com (Chintu Philips Koshy)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 12:04:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <87r3ddulg5.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
References: <CAPztPCc-YJ48yNbdHRn6jHcPGtoScDDukCXnLtPhzAmaq_t1=Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Hey,
[..]
>>>Audience feedback. If a lot of people who attend a conference say that
>>>the quality is low, it's low
[..]
>> Among the many other objectives of a conference like Pycon, I believe
>> promoting the use of the language among new users is one. What you are
>> suggesting means having a conference just for the much experience
>> folks.  Aren't you, in effect, suggesting that the user base of the
>> language should *not *be expanded?
>
> No I'm not and I don't have the time or inclination to rehash all my old
> arguments. They're there in the list archives for everyone interested.

Quality has indeed been an issue. Do refer to tweets with the hashtag
of InPyCon(#PyConIndia) for references. I am sure people concerned
have read those tweets. Let's not point fingers.
Why not have beginner level talks on day 1 and advanced level talks on
day 2. Tickets could also be split based on interests of the people.

Regards,
Chintu Philips Koshy

From noufal at nibrahim.net.in  Sun May  8 02:39:45 2016
From: noufal at nibrahim.net.in (Noufal Ibrahim KV)
Date: Sun, 08 May 2016 12:09:45 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <CAKtu8vVGkwrAPO5hFAka4sW0y_Q+vExJj+cCPDJ_taqq2k5qvQ@mail.gmail.com>
 (AMiT Kumar's message of "Sun, 8 May 2016 11:48:35 +0530")
References: <CAPztPCc-YJ48yNbdHRn6jHcPGtoScDDukCXnLtPhzAmaq_t1=Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <87lh3luk7i.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>

On Sun, May 08 2016, AMiT Kumar wrote:


[...]


>> Audience feedback. If a lot of people who attend a conference say
>> that the quality is low, it's low (regardless of any internal metrics
>> I have). When people say that "I've been skipping PyCon India since
>> the talk quality is low", there's a problem that needs to be fixed.
>>
>>
> I didn't saw the feedback of last year's PyCon, That's very disheartening.

[...]

To be honest, I haven't seen it either. I did hear this from the earlier
events (2014 etc.) and from conversations with folks.


-- 
Cordially,
Noufal
http://nibrahim.net.in

From deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com  Sun May  8 03:08:53 2016
From: deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com (Jaidev Deshpande)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 12:38:53 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <CAPP-jNmAfJK18LNjpUGW38yAHgng3V-BWQYq7NwUUgD0tCL2=Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPztPCc-YJ48yNbdHRn6jHcPGtoScDDukCXnLtPhzAmaq_t1=Q@mail.gmail.com>
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 <87r3demh6p.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
 <CAB=suE=kutG2SKAY52TQ87EpHpCPjbmYkFhcWcyOcvwATW2h4g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAB=suEnaVFbcGHEcb6UW59+p+hCoKLMBry4zgrGWsGynr0ovxg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Ankur Gupta <ankur0493 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <noufal at nibrahim.net.in
> > wrote:
>
>> [..]
>>
>> So basically, less (simple) talks, less (first timer) people, higher
>> quality.
>
>
> Among the many other objectives of a conference like Pycon, I believe
> promoting the use of the language among new users is one. What you are
> suggesting means having a conference just for the much experience folks.
> Aren't you, in effect, suggesting that the user base of the language should *not
> *be expanded?
>

One of the most dangerous things that can affect any FOSS community is the
tendency of evangelism for the sake of evangelism. Promoting the Python
stack, expanding the userbase, etc, should come _only_ as a consequence of
the content we produce as developers. If evangelism even remotely becomes
one of your goals, your quality is sure to suffer. And it's not just the
empirical evidence that prompts me to say this. It even makes logical
sense. If we want to "promote" Python and related tech, our best market
would be the young and unexperienced (and therefore non-opinionated) minds.
But note that such audiences are also very fickle. They may not return for
the next conference. And since they don't, we have to count on more fresh
entries each year. And in the conference itself, since we're all acutely
aware of the demographic, we spend too many talks pandering to this part of
the audience.

Actually, I'll even go so far as to say that expanding the user base of a
language is _not_ the purpose of a PyCon. For that we've got activities
going on all year. Come on! It's a three day event that happens once a
year! If you're so concerned about evangelism, focus on the local chapter
meetups. PyCon isn't the place to do it. It's a place for people to get
together and exchange ideas. Teaching basics gets in the way of that like
nothing else.

So, in short, focus on the quality. Users will follow.


>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Ankur Gupta
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>


-- 
JD
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From blucalvin at gmail.com  Sun May  8 12:45:11 2016
From: blucalvin at gmail.com (Haris Ibrahim K. V.)
Date: Sun, 8 May 2016 22:15:11 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <CAB=suEnaVFbcGHEcb6UW59+p+hCoKLMBry4zgrGWsGynr0ovxg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPztPCc-YJ48yNbdHRn6jHcPGtoScDDukCXnLtPhzAmaq_t1=Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAC7wXFw16bpF1H6fNE20j0FC1rsdZOMEvPLjpKORNfgGt9xnxw@mail.gmail.com>
 <87r3demh6p.fsf@nibrahim.net.in>
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Message-ID: <CA+6J308U34eSiNmMhP4bpcrdoBqpzdbc_fud41Apn+0=F1MDjg@mail.gmail.com>

On 8 May 2016 at 12:38, Jaidev Deshpande <deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Ankur Gupta <ankur0493 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV
>> <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>>>
>>> [..]
>>>
>>> So basically, less (simple) talks, less (first timer) people, higher
>>> quality.
>>
>>
>> Among the many other objectives of a conference like Pycon, I believe
>> promoting the use of the language among new users is one. What you are
>> suggesting means having a conference just for the much experience folks.
>> Aren't you, in effect, suggesting that the user base of the language should
>> not be expanded?
>
>
> One of the most dangerous things that can affect any FOSS community is the
> tendency of evangelism for the sake of evangelism. Promoting the Python
> stack, expanding the userbase, etc, should come _only_ as a consequence of
> the content we produce as developers. If evangelism even remotely becomes
> one of your goals, your quality is sure to suffer. And it's not just the
> empirical evidence that prompts me to say this. It even makes logical sense.
> If we want to "promote" Python and related tech, our best market would be
> the young and unexperienced (and therefore non-opinionated) minds. But note
> that such audiences are also very fickle. They may not return for the next
> conference. And since they don't, we have to count on more fresh entries
> each year. And in the conference itself, since we're all acutely aware of
> the demographic, we spend too many talks pandering to this part of the
> audience.
>
> Actually, I'll even go so far as to say that expanding the user base of a
> language is _not_ the purpose of a PyCon. For that we've got activities
> going on all year. Come on! It's a three day event that happens once a year!
> If you're so concerned about evangelism, focus on the local chapter meetups.
> PyCon isn't the place to do it. It's a place for people to get together and
> exchange ideas. Teaching basics gets in the way of that like nothing else.
>
> So, in short, focus on the quality. Users will follow.

The argument for better quality is always valid, even if the
conference is beginner friendly.

I am still not completely in favour of making the conference "not
beginner friendly" (which is what the discussion is about, quoting "So
basically, less (simple) talks, less (first timer) people, higher
quality.").

Having said that, I think as far as a conference is concerned, even if
it can impart new horizons of exploration (as opposed to concrete
knowledge on one specific topic) to anyone who attends, be they
apprentice / journeymen / masters, that in itself is excellent.

Of course, the final call has to be made by the organizers since
they're the ones who can know if they have the bandwidth, but given
the circumstances, I also agree that experimenting with slightly
advanced topics and veteran presenters would be a worth while effort.

At this point, taking that path (more advanced talks) can probably
channel the organizers' energy from venue hunt (finalize JNU?) to talk
selection, which requires a lot of time and effort, and we're already
losing valuable time.

Cheers,
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards,
>> Ankur Gupta
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> JD
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



-- 
Haris Ibrahim K. V.
http://sosaysharis.wordpress.com
@harisibrahimkv

From thinrhino at gmail.com  Tue May 10 02:52:23 2016
From: thinrhino at gmail.com (Thin Rhino)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 12:22:23 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
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On 8 May 2016 at 22:15, Haris Ibrahim K. V. <blucalvin at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8 May 2016 at 12:38, Jaidev Deshpande <deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Ankur Gupta <ankur0493 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV
> >> <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
> >>>
>

What is the status of the venue?

Discussions on quality v/s quantity is never ending.
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From hiddenharmony at gmail.com  Tue May 10 04:16:49 2016
From: hiddenharmony at gmail.com (Vivek Khurana)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 13:46:49 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
In-Reply-To: <CAF8-JtPCEX_1pg-uPtXGa0=AjUbd5iS4ow7w-ZH1T1eXB5Vh8Q@mail.gmail.com>
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I can help hunt the venue but need following inputs

-- What is the budget that we are planning to spend for the venue  and
capacity are we looking for the venue (single hall or multiple hall and
capacity for each of the required hall)

-- Other than AV, what other facility we are looking at the venue.
-- Food: Are we arranging lunch/snacks for all attendees or just for
speakers
-- In case food for all attendees, what is the minimum guarantee we are
comfortable with.

I know this has been discussed earlier in different mails but having all
info in one mail will help me forward the mails and get quotations.
Lastly, are we comfortable engaging any organizing company to manage the
venue, while we focus on the conference ?

regards
Vivek

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Thin Rhino <thinrhino at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8 May 2016 at 22:15, Haris Ibrahim K. V. <blucalvin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8 May 2016 at 12:38, Jaidev Deshpande <deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Ankur Gupta <ankur0493 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV
>> >> <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>> >>>
>>
>
> What is the status of the venue?
>
> Discussions on quality v/s quantity is never ending.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
>


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From anuvrat at anuvrat.in  Tue May 10 21:48:21 2016
From: anuvrat at anuvrat.in (Anuvrat Parashar)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 07:18:21 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Help with Venue for PyCon India
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On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Vivek Khurana <hiddenharmony at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I can help hunt the venue but need following inputs
>
> -- What is the budget that we are planning to spend for the venue  and
> capacity are we looking for the venue (single hall or multiple hall and
> capacity for each of the required hall)
>


> -- Other than AV, what other facility we are looking at the venue.
> -- Food: Are we arranging lunch/snacks for all attendees or just for
> speakers
> -- In case food for all attendees, what is the minimum guarantee we are
> comfortable with.
>
> I know this has been discussed earlier in different mails but having all
> info in one mail will help me forward the mails and get quotations.
> Lastly, are we comfortable engaging any organizing company to manage the
> venue, while we focus on the conference ?
>
> regards
> Vivek
>
>
@ Vivek
Please take a look at the first mail in this thread (also temporarily
pasted https://dpaste.de/ntxm).
it enlists all the requirements.

food: yes there will be food for all participants.
outsourcing: depends on the cost. if the company makes an offer cheaper
than our time. maybe.

-- 
Anuvrat Parashar <http://anuvrat.in>
http://anuvrat.in
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From peeyushaggarwal94 at gmail.com  Sat May 14 13:44:41 2016
From: peeyushaggarwal94 at gmail.com (Peeyush Aggarwal)
Date: Sat, 14 May 2016 23:14:41 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Venue for PyCon India sealed
Message-ID: <CAOqrUf5itMwxJJXFarWOHvgToh2Vi1TcPQfxZcZAF496MQ=wtQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Pythonistas,

After much  research, discussions and ground work by the volunteers, we
finally have sealed the venue for this year's PyCon India. The venue is
"Convention Center, Jawaharlal Nehru University, New Delhi".

We have 2 halls with capacity of 350 people, 3 lecture halls of 150 people
and 2 seminar rooms(60 seats each). Apart from this, we also have two halls
for open spaces as well.

We would be  using the money saved on venue booking for making the event
for providing a better audio visual experience facilitating an interactive
session between all halls at the time of keynote.

Also, putting forward the discussion between few volunteers at the local
community meetup at New Delhi on 14-05-2016, the pricing of ticket has been
proposed as follows:

Students & early bird: Rs 1000
Normal tickets : Rs 1500
Spot registration: Rs 2500

Further discussions about food, infra and other purchases is expected to
take place over video conference the coming week. The schedule would be
updated soon.

Please provide your valuable feedback and suggestions on the above
mentioned points.

Best
Peeyush
Team inPyCon
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From akshayaurora at gmail.com  Sat May 21 13:30:39 2016
From: akshayaurora at gmail.com (qua non)
Date: Sat, 21 May 2016 23:00:39 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Minutes of meeting on Thursday May 19th 2016
Message-ID: <CAPztPCcvh5cKns5e9StTbbz5guBdwf63jP5wEvLaoHxs8j7EhQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

Now that the Venue for PyCon India has been finalized to JNU Convention
Center, we are holding regular Thursday meets.  We had our last meet on
Thursday May 19th 2016.

Here are the Main topics discussed in the meeting.

- Venue team to follow up with Venu related tasks  and start finalizing
vendors for food,  backdrops,  advertising, banners, Welcome kit and
batches etc
.
- Keynote:  Time to start connecting with all the top voted for suggestions
and enquire for their availability.

- CFP: Core CFP team to start managing volunteers and decide on deadline
for Closing CFP and finalizing schedule.(CFP should close 1.5-2 months
before the event.)

- Social Media team to send more posts spreading the word for PyCon India
2016 and ask for CFP's

- Sponsorship team: to contact and Coordinate with each other for
sponsorship related tasks, Satya has created some templates that can be
re-used.


*A separate mail to each of the Teams will be sent out soon detailing the
above mentioned tasks and who to contact for more details.*

If you haven't already volunteered for PyCon India 2016 please do so by
filling out the following form.


https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Tb0gNAFEsWTx1mBare4kMmd6cKQVB4nQX5DScNZVwAg/viewform

Regards
Akkshay
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From akshayaurora at gmail.com  Sun May 29 08:33:52 2016
From: akshayaurora at gmail.com (qua non)
Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 18:03:52 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Fwd: [PyDelhi] Minutes of Meeting || 26-May-2016
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From: Peeyush Aggarwal <peeyushaggarwal94 at gmail.com>
Date: Sun, May 29, 2016 at 1:18 AM
Subject: [PyDelhi] Minutes of Meeting || 26-May-2016
To: ncr-python.in at python.org


Hi folks,

Minutes of Meetings for Meeting held on 26th May 2016.

Following topics were discussed in the meeting:

1. CFP taintative dates as guidance for CFP team:

CFP Closure/ submission: dead line one week , June 29
Acceptance of talks: July 10th
presentation upload: July 27th minimum 3 weeks
Final review: least 15 days before: 5th August
Schedule announcement: 20 days before: (20th August) August 25th

These are guideline for the CFP team and final deadlines for these will be
decided by them.

CFP team to clearly mention that there will be no travel allowances.

CFP team to manage announcements,  people are not even aware that CFP is
open, there is no current advertising.

- Announcements to be sent out to local mailing lists too
-  Lot more posts need to go out asking for Proposals
- Lot more social media posts need to happen

There needs to be another announcement mentioning the deadline for CFP done
by the CFP team.

2. Ticket sales to open asap. The Venue team will be making sure to setup a
event on explara and open the tickets asap and make the announcements with
the help of social media team. This task should be completed by this Monday
30th May.

3. Venue team to coordinate and contact potential people for Keynote
speakers based on input from the community(using the suggestions in
existing discussion about this) Selection.

4. Keynote Speaker to be finalized asap. Deadline is June 14.

5. Sponsorship team to contact Satyaakam and use existing prospectus and
template for contacting sponsors.
Sponsorship to close One month before the event.

6. Once Event is setup and ticket registrations open,  there needs to be a
blog post posting the deadlines above.

Regards
Team PyCon India

_______________________________________________
https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/ncr-python.in
http://bit.ly/pydelhi-mailinglist-guidelines
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From peeyushaggarwal94 at gmail.com  Sun May 29 10:30:42 2016
From: peeyushaggarwal94 at gmail.com (Peeyush Aggarwal)
Date: Sun, 29 May 2016 20:00:42 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] Minutes of Meeting || 26-May-2016
Message-ID: <CAOqrUf7NdtTYR1UirR6i_Rj1NRquXwbU15+3rQ5+D+BRPqH5Ng@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

Minutes of Meetings for Meeting held on 26th May 2016.

Following topics were discussed in the meeting:

1. CFP taintative dates as guidance for CFP team:

CFP Closure/ submission: dead line one week , June 29
Acceptance of talks: July 10th
presentation upload: July 27th minimum 3 weeks
Final review: least 15 days before: 5th August
Schedule announcement: 20 days before: (20th August) August 25th

These are guideline for the CFP team and final deadlines for these will be
decided by them.

CFP team to clearly mention that there will be no travel allowances.

CFP team to manage announcements,  people are not even aware that CFP is
open, there is no current advertising.

- Announcements to be sent out to local mailing lists too
-  Lot more posts need to go out asking for Proposals
- Lot more social media posts need to happen

There needs to be another announcement mentioning the deadline for CFP done
by the CFP team.

2. Ticket sales to open asap. The Venue team will be making sure to setup a
event on explara and open the tickets asap and make the announcements with
the help of social media team. This task should be completed by this Monday
30th May.

3. Venue team to coordinate and contact potential people for Keynote
speakers based on input from the community(using the suggestions in
existing discussion about this) Selection.

4. Keynote Speaker to be finalized asap. Deadline is June 14.

5. Sponsorship team to contact Satyaakam and use existing prospectus and
template for contacting sponsors.
Sponsorship to close One month before the event.

6. Once Event is setup and ticket registrations open,  there needs to be a
blog post posting the deadlines above.

Regards
Team PyCon India
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From anandpillai at letterboxes.org  Tue May 31 01:52:05 2016
From: anandpillai at letterboxes.org (Anand B Pillai)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 11:22:05 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] CFP Marketing
Message-ID: <574D2685.9050403@letterboxes.org>

Hi,

	I wasn't even aware the CFP had opened as there is no marketing noise
around it on Twitter or anywhere!

	Please take steps to ensure this is tweeted at least and the word is
spread.

-- 
Regards,

--Anand

----------------------------
Software Architect/Consultant
anandpillai at letterboxes.org

http://twitter.com/skeptichacker

From versesane at gmail.com  Tue May 31 06:11:14 2016
From: versesane at gmail.com (Ankur Gupta)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 15:41:14 +0530
Subject: [Inpycon] CFP Marketing
In-Reply-To: <574D2685.9050403@letterboxes.org>
References: <574D2685.9050403@letterboxes.org>
Message-ID: <CAGdqB8s7vSECAmKe6LZcR_He0pDQ-Gh-GaABJ8BxQ2qjPPJpHQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Will put it in this issue of ImportPython Newsletter. I been curating the
newsletter for a while now and happy to help/work along with the social
media marketing team of PyCon.

Thanks,
Ankur Gupta

On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Anand B Pillai <
anandpillai at letterboxes.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>         I wasn't even aware the CFP had opened as there is no marketing
> noise
> around it on Twitter or anywhere!
>
>         Please take steps to ensure this is tweeted at least and the word
> is
> spread.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> --Anand
>
> ----------------------------
> Software Architect/Consultant
> anandpillai at letterboxes.org
>
> http://twitter.com/skeptichacker
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>



-- 
Homepage -> http://uptosomething.in
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From deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com  Tue May 31 06:17:25 2016
From: deshpande.jaidev at gmail.com (Jaidev Deshpande)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 10:17:25 +0000
Subject: [Inpycon] CFP Marketing
In-Reply-To: <CAGdqB8s7vSECAmKe6LZcR_He0pDQ-Gh-GaABJ8BxQ2qjPPJpHQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <574D2685.9050403@letterboxes.org>
 <CAGdqB8s7vSECAmKe6LZcR_He0pDQ-Gh-GaABJ8BxQ2qjPPJpHQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAB=suEnSzf5-Y55H7tVpVGWhrDhsCGtG+O=C5KTPP1FdeA0g-g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
On Tue, 31 May 2016 at 15:42 Ankur Gupta <versesane at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Will put it in this issue of ImportPython Newsletter. I been curating the
> newsletter for a while now and happy to help/work along with the social
> media marketing team of PyCon.
>

Thanks a lot, Ankur. That would be very helpful.


>
> Thanks,
> Ankur Gupta
>
> On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:22 AM, Anand B Pillai <
> anandpillai at letterboxes.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>         I wasn't even aware the CFP had opened as there is no marketing
>> noise
>> around it on Twitter or anywhere!
>>
>>         Please take steps to ensure this is tweeted at least and the word
>> is
>> spread.
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> --Anand
>>
>> ----------------------------
>> Software Architect/Consultant
>> anandpillai at letterboxes.org
>>
>> http://twitter.com/skeptichacker
>> _______________________________________________
>> Inpycon mailing list
>> Inpycon at python.org
>> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Homepage -> http://uptosomething.in
> _______________________________________________
> Inpycon mailing list
> Inpycon at python.org
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/inpycon
>
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