[Inpycon] Venue for PyCon India 2018

[Noufal Ibrahim]

It's quite obvious to me now that this has been well thought over. I 
guess I was out of touch. +1 to the current plan.


On 2017-12-04 23:40, chandan kumar wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Noufal Ibrahim KV
> <noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 04 2017, vijay kumar wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>>> Just a few pointers for PyCon India 2018. We are planning to get 
>>> minimum 6
>>> keynote speakers from outside India, adding few new things like Kids 
>>> track,
>>> startup rows, etc., also its a 3 day conference this year. Last year 
>>> we had
>>> regular ticket for Rs.*1500* for 2 days conference. Even going with 
>>> last
>>> year's price, to increase a day, we have to increase the cost by 750 
>>> which
>>> is *2350*. I have no idea what we are debating here. Quality comes 
>>> with
>>> cost.
>> 
>> I'm personally okay with setting a price tag of 3500 if it reduces
>> dependency on sponsors and if it can get us a good venue. I don't mind
>> if the cost is reduced participation. There are several PyCons 
>> happening
>> in India now and all of them are quite good. If a 3.5k cost once a 
>> year
>> is too much, well, that's that. I've generally been unsuccessfully
>> pushing for sacrificing audience and talk quantity for quality. It's 
>> not
>> a well received idea but I think this is a step in that direction and
>> while it might not be correct, it's atleast a worthwhile experiment.
>> 
> 
> From all the replies, we are debating over **quantity**, not over
> quality and weekdays versus weekend.
> As Vijay already started the cost and everything related to PyCon 
> India. So,
> Let's work together instead of discussing a lot, make it the best
> PyCon India ever had.
> 
>> However, I'm quite against doing the conference on a weekday. 
>> Organising
>> travel, taking days off etc. are all complex and it would put a lot of
>> otherwise interested people off. Workshops and such are special 
>> interest
>> and low participation anyway so putting those on weekdays might be
>> okay. The main conference which is when everyone hangs out and chats
>> etc. should, in my opinion, be on a weekend.
>> 
> 
> I don't think keeping a conference on weekdays decreases the number of
> attendees.
> PyCon Pune 2017 happened on weekdays and it was housefull. Most of the
> PyCon conferences
> outside India happen on weekdays and devsprints and workshops on
> weekends. We are actually
> late to the party so, let's do it.
> 
>> I think it's perfectly fine to axe things like an extra day, the kids
>> track etc. if it means we can reduce the size and do it at a venue 
>> which
>> is available during a weekend.
>> 
>>> This is *10th YEAR* and we want to take PyCon India to next
>>> level. Request everyone to give us time and space to plan things.
>> 
>> The "us" are people on this list unless there's something else going 
>> on
>> that I'm not aware of. While all the people here might not be able to
>> participate on the ground, I think most of the opinions and 
>> discussions
>> are valid and useful.
>> 
> 
> For PyCon India 2018 planning, we have invited all of them to
> participate face to face as well as through hangout.
> Lastly Sayan and Vijay held two face to face meeting for the same in
> Bangalore and two online video hangout meeting so that everyone can
> join. If you think it is going wrong, please join our meetings so that
> we can discuss clearly. Minutes were already sent from previous
> meeting and nothing is happening behind closed doors.
> . It is very important for shaping and successful execution of the 
> conference.
> 
>>> Also, to answer on the venue, we considered multiple venues which 
>>> were
>>> suggested in this thread as well. Most of the venues have only one 
>>> big
>>> conference room which does not fit our requirement. The bigger venues
>>> are costing us more than BIEC. We have considered everything before
>>> concluding on BIEC and all the pointers were already provided in this
>>> thread earlier.
>> 
>> Perhaps it's time to reconsider them then since the cost of using BIEC
>> is that we'll have to do the conference on a weekday.