[Inpycon] Is PyCon India "really open"?

[Bibhas Ch Debnath]

On 13-Jan-2018 2:39 AM, "vijay kumar" <vnbang2003 at gmail.com> wrote:



On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:55 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath <me at bibhas.in> wrote:

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> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:39 AM, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:29 AM, Bibhas Ch Debnath <me at bibhas.in> wrote:
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>>> Hi Vijay,
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:22 AM, vijay kumar <vnbang2003 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:10 AM, Anuvrat Parashar <anuvrat at anuvrat.in>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 1:13 AM, Noufal Ibrahim KV <
>>>>> noufal at nibrahim.net.in> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 13 2018, vijay kumar wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Now that you says you didn't know anything, Are you correct to
>>>>>> approve
>>>>>> > PR ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An "LGTM" is not an approval.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > I Personally would not recommend anyone doing anyone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What exactly are you trying to say here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think we can resolve this quite easily.  Why don't you point
>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>> on this list to the exact damage that he caused because he "didn't
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> anything"? If his LGTM actually legitimises a bad commit, then there's
>>>>>> some substance to what you're saying. Please show us if this is the
>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I dont think someone approving PR without knwoledge is right anywhere.
>>>> He should have atleast asked someone before approving it in case he
>>>> didn't know anything.
>>>> I would never recommend anyone this.
>>>>
>>>
>>> ​
>>> ​​
>>> Did you read any of the mails sent by others in this thread?
>>>
>> First discusison happendin in Meeting , MOM had been published in mailing
>> list.
>> Next steps volunteer take based on thier comfort communication channel as
>> it basically 1:1 discussions mainly.
>>
>
> Where is this documented? How would anyone starting to contribute now,
> know the history of conversation? Ask all previous volunteers for their 1:1
> conversation log? That really doesn't seem like an open discussion to me.
>

what process was followed to make him approver ?

I don't see any discussion in this mailing list ?
Let understand we all work in ways to contribute from our personal time and
let respect and move forward.


We do respect that. But it's pretty evident from the first comment that
started this thread that you don't.

This whole thread was not about proving you wrong. It was about making you
see the effort someone has put in reviewing a PR and making you appreciate
the time and effort they have put in and respect that, as he also
contributed from his own personal time, as you said. But alas, you failed
to see that and I'm having to spell it out.

You're a valued member of this community. But you're a volunteer too. Just
like any other volunteer. Everyone needs to respect each other here. And
respect has to be earned.




> And Shashank said he's been contributing for 3 years now, that doesn't
> qualify him to write LGTM on a blog post? Writing LGTM got him this comment?
> - "I don't think you are part of volunteering Team for this year so please
> stop reviewing it."
>
Is it only review comments ?

>
> There are people in IRC *right now* saying that they're afraid of
> reviewing further PRs. Do you see what you did wrong?
>
>
>
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>>> You also skipped this question by Shashank -
>>>
>> Did that answer the question ?
>>
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> ​You forgot to answer my question -
> ​
> Did you read any of the mails sent by others in this thread? You're
> talking about organizing a community driven event and yet the community is
> telling you that what you did was wrong. And you're turning a blind eye to
> it. You literally ignored all the comments and blindly repeated your own
> view.
>
> He approved the changes in the PR but he *did not* merge it. He did not
> break anything! And yet your comment was exactly what someone who wants to
> "preserve control" would say. That's not a comment made by someone who
> welcomes community effort.
>
> You also didn't answer to this - Also, what is the process of revoking
> rights from the repository? Who gets to make this decision?
>
>
>
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>>> > I don't know where the discussion are going on regarding the work for
>>> which the PR was made. I'm active on mailing list and IRC, replying and
>>> commenting on both the platforms.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>> Vijay
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