[Inpycon] Is PyCon India "really open"?

Vanitha Shanmugam vani.pree at gmail.com
Sun Jan 14 03:59:13 EST 2018


On 14 January 2018 at 14:21, Bibhas Ch Debnath <me at bibhas.in> wrote:

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> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 1:46 PM, Vanitha Shanmugam <vani.pree at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> On 14 January 2018 at 00:09, Sanyam Khurana <sanyam.khurana01 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Vanitha Shanmugam <vani.pree at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > A few stats below.
>>> > We, PyCon India volunteers plan publishing date for every blog in the
>>> > volunteers meeting as it has to go along with website update and other
>>> > things depending on the blog content. Minutes are shared in the
>>> mailing list
>>> > for all meetings conducted so far this year.
>>> >
>>> > Earlier realslimshanky had merged 2 PRs ([0] and [1]) without keeping
>>> any
>>> > updated on the same. The blog [0] went live when we setup PyCon India
>>> 2018
>>> > website with basic content as the master branch was updated for this.
>>> Since
>>> > this went live well before our planned date unexpectedly when the other
>>> > required updates were not available on our website, it created chaos
>>> as even
>>> > the core volunteers were not aware of this PR merge.
>>>
>>> First, `merge` and `deploy` are two different things. I agree that it
>>> could have been deployed by someone and then later we realized that
>>> blog also get deployed.
>>
>>
>>> The first PR I see is a blog post and second one is just a CSS change.
>>> If it create a `chaos`, why am I unable to see any comments on the
>>> merged PR for the same?
>>>
>>> Was this issue bought up anywhere?
>>>
>>
>> Answered this to Bibhas. Just for everyone's information here, last year
>> no discussion brought up in mailing list and nobody apart from Delhi team
>> were aware of what was happening unless u join the telegram group. This
>> year, we are trying to be transparent and keeping everyone updated as much
>> as we can.. And everyone here ask for proof for each and every word we
>> speak. Why is this difference?
>>
>
> ​This whole thread started because one volunteer was told that he should
> stop volunteering his time and then got his access removed without any
> explanation. That's not transparent.​ It's you who came up with an
> explanation after more than a day. And as we've mentioned earlier, this
> whole thread is about how he behaved with a volunteer. Many people have
> pointed that the way he behaved is not the behaviour of someone who
> understands community.
>
>
>
>> I do not have energy to fight with everybody here to give proof for every
>> point I make. If you do not have trust, I cant help.
>>
>
> Community is not trusting the core team. That's what you should notice
> here.
>

Sure, am one of the core volunteers this year. I do not want to work in a
place where there is no trust. Please consider this as my formal email to
give up being a core volunteer for PyCon India 2018. Request the volunteers
who can build trust with the whole community to take this year PyCon India
forward. Thanks for all your valuable inputs. I rest my case.

Thanks,
Vanitha
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