[Inpycon] Is PyCon India "really open"?

[bhanuvrat at gmail.com]

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On 17-Jan-2018 7:13 PM, "Vanitha Shanmugam" <vani.pree at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Anuvrat,

On 14 January 2018 at 21:35, Anuvrat Parashar <anuvrat at anuvrat.in> wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 2:23 PM, Vanitha Shanmugam <vani.pree at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Anuvrat,
>>
>> On 14 January 2018 at 06:54, Anuvrat Parashar <anuvrat at anuvrat.in> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 11:31 PM, Vanitha Shanmugam <vani.pree at gmail.com
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for top posting and also for the late response. Just wanted to
>>>> share some data.
>>>>
>>>> PyCon India is a volunteer driven event and every contribution is a
>>>> step towards its success however big or small it is and I appreciate
>>>> realslimshanky's contribution.
>>>>
>>>> IMO, the issue is more of less to do with the communication. Nobody
>>>> here is against any contribution. Lets just be clear that we all are
>>>> working for PyCon India in whatever way we can and none has any intention
>>>> of discouraging or stopping any from doing so.
>>>>
>>>> A few stats below.
>>>> We, PyCon India volunteers plan publishing date for every blog in the
>>>> volunteers meeting as it has to go along with website update and other
>>>> things depending on the blog content. Minutes are shared in the mailing
>>>> list for all meetings conducted so far this year.
>>>>
>>>> Earlier realslimshanky had merged 2 PRs ([0] and [1]) without keeping
>>>> any updated on the same. The blog [0] went live when we setup PyCon India
>>>> 2018 website with basic content as the master branch was updated for this.
>>>> Since this went live well before our planned date unexpectedly when the
>>>> other required updates were not available on our website, it created chaos
>>>> as even the core volunteers were not aware of this PR merge.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is not what sparked the debate. There is a higher standard expected
>>> from people who have built the community.
>>>
>>> If blogs are getting updated because a pull request was merged, thats a
>>> flaw in our process, of not having blogs flagged to be in draft mode.
>>> Blaming realslimshanky for our shortcomings does not project a good
>>> image of the community.
>>>
>>
>> Just to make it clear, I did not blame any. In fact, we did not even
>> communicate it to realslimshanky on the chaos the merge was created since
>> it was the early stage. I agree there are ways to handle this. Still it is
>> always a good practice to wait for at least a couple of reviews and
>> approves before merging considering the pace we work with PyCon India
>> website.
>>
>
> No issues there.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> That was the reason Vijay suggested him not to merge without having
>>>> complete info. His intention was not to discourage him from contributing
>>>> but to do it the right way with proper communication. We are just an email
>>>> away and it hardly takes a minute to pass on the info and keep everyone
>>>> updated. I agree that Vijay could have communicated that in a better way
>>>> and as he mentioned in one of the emails, we will make sure such things
>>>> will not be repeated.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sadly despite the community's decision, he is speaking through you. Is
>>> he too proud to apologise?
>>>
>>
>> What makes you think that someone else was speaking through me?
>>
>
> timing, content and past incidents.
>

Your assumptions are wrong and request you to restrain from doing that with
me or anyone else in this community. Treat everybody with respect keeping
your assumptions aside. Let me reiterate, I can share my views just like
everybody else and I do not have to speak on behalf of someone else.


>
>
>> You think I cannot write a mail on my own or do not have rights to
>> clarify things here?
>>
>
> Yes and Yes.
>
Oops that came out wrong.

Amendment:

Yes you can.
And yes you do have every right.


I would like an explanation for this. I request you to be mindful of what
you speak here. On what basis did you pass this comment? If I do not have
rights to clarify things here, I would like to know the criteria on which
the rights are defined and also would like you to point me to the official
page where it is documented.

Someone is being offensive here to an individual in the same thread where
the community is talking about an offensive act. What is the community
doing about this person? I wonder why nobody raised any concern neither did
anyone point out Anuvrat on his behaviour. I would like an explanation from
the community as well.

Thanks,
Vanitha

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