[Inpycon] Stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team

[Atul UDUPI]

Greetings,


I am one of the opensource passionate and Python lover.


I am a first timer  this year (2017-2018) for Pycon and wanted to learn  and contribute for Python in new regions. I am already on this job in my own way - and its a real community and purely non-commercial activities without hulla bulla.


I feel for making community successful we need  people with different mindset, transparency and real people  management & team management capabilities and should keep commercial as a byproduct and not the ONLY goal.   Arrogant, dictatorship kind of approach will fail us surely and we will not be able to build a healthy community and cannot sustain for a long time.


Kindly excuse me for my statement and I really mean it. I am unsubscribing myself  from this mailing list, because every email I receive make me feel that there is something serious issue and this is NOT what I should get into.


I am glad that I learnt this in the initial phase  and thank you for all the learning.  This whole episode helped me to think twice before getting involved with any new communities.


Good wishes to everyone.     I feel some of the senior members should sincerely drive this Aug 2018 event and make it a success.


PS:  I am not pointing fingers at anyone. Its just my general opinion  and NOT referring to  any communication/ discussion  within this mailing list.



Regards

Atul


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From: Inpycon <inpycon-bounces+atuludupi=live.com at python.org> on behalf of Anand Chitipothu <anandology at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:36:54 AM
To: Mailing list for the PyCon India conference
Subject: Re: [Inpycon] Stepping down from the PyCon India 2018 core team

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 12:35 AM, chandan kumar <chandankumar.093047 at gmail.com<mailto:chandankumar.093047 at gmail.com>> wrote:
[...]

Coming to PSSI, they have given us n-steps on how invoices should be raised for
sponsorship money, one step says they are the only people to share invoice as
they are the statutorily accountable for invoices. We completely understand we
wanted one changed in steps Sponsorship co-ordinator will loop PSSI board while
we should be sending an invoice as continuity for discussion instead of PSSI
suddenly sending the invoice as a surprise. The problem is it took 5
days for PSSI
treasurer to accept our proposal, but other members did not agree.  Looks like
PSSI even don't trust that we will do it in right spirit and they are citing
like a company where marketing team's job is to find a customer and let other
teams take over. Does PSSI really trust any PyCon India volunteers? And that
makes me think of a very interesting point. If the people (Lords?) running PSSI
are so concerned about the community, why are you not involving the community
in the organization (PSSI), instead kicked everyone else out from the
organization (no one allowed us to renew our memberships)? Could anyone please
tell me when was the last Annual General Meeting happened? So, please do not
show your concern about the community when you do not care about the community
at all.

There is the email thread that happened in PSSI mailing list.

https://anandology.com/tmp/pssi-sponsorship-thread.pdf

In which, Vijay threatened to run PyCon India without PSSI and demanded Sree for explanation for why a courier was delayed by a day.
Is that a way to treat a senior volunteer who as been with PyCon India from the very beginning and even lost a family member for PyCon India (yes, many of you don't know that).

I Agree that PSSI has its own problems. I've been arguing that PSSI need to be more efficient and transparent. It is a big mess and there is no sense of trust among the members. I've suggested everyone to stepdown and let new people representing all python usergroups in India to take over and drive. Everyone who replied to that agreed except Vijay and Varnita.

I don't want to change the topic to PSSI here. I'll start a separate thread discussing that.

Anand
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