[IPython-dev] About GSoC 2011

Omar Andrés Zapata Mesa andresete.chaos at gmail.com
Sat Apr 9 01:15:39 EDT 2011

Oh thanks Fernando,
I am no worry about GSoC, If GSoC is not possible  obviously I want to
continue working with IPython's team,
I love IPython's project and  I am working to write a good code and to be a
active member.

My plans is to continue with two process's frontend and to write  good web
interface! I am thinking how to implement the brian's web interface that is
very nice to improve ipython-http framework that I have working a little.

My absence from the list these days and my slow progress in the frontend is
because you know how is the situation at my university, and teachers are
accelerating the evaluation's process by  the political situation, but soon
I will be update and I  show you a good progress.

Then soon I will cancel my application for GSoC, I'm not worried about that.

Thanks to let me be a part of this.

2011/4/8 Fernando Perez <fperez.net at gmail.com>

> Hi Omar,
> 2011/4/7 Omar Andrés Zapata Mesa <andresete.chaos at gmail.com>:
> > I applied to GSoC with IPython proposal, please give some feedback and
> > suggestions,
> > my blog is http://ipython-http.blogspot.com/
> > I think a I can a good job with the prototype of James Gao, Brian Granger
> > and  discussing web interface standards for ipython, art and features in
> > the mailing list.
> I'm sorry I've been silent, I had a family health emergency that sent
> me mostly offline for a few days, I know you needed feedback, and I
> apologize for leaving you waiting (as well as other people were also
> bottlenecking on me).
> I'm very happy to see you wanting to contribute further, but I think
> that it's going to be very difficult for this to happen as a gsoc
> project this year.
> The first reason is that, as I had said earlier, as a second-year
> student you would be expected to clear a much higher bar of entry to
> the program than a new student.  While you have made a good effort
> recently to push forward on completing your work from last year, which
> is great, that hasn't been finished yet.  With help from the core team
> your logging work is now merged, but there's still no complete
> implementation of the terminal client ready for final merge.  I played
> with your prototype and gave some feedback (as did Thomas), and you
> have a good start there, but it's certainly not code ready for merge
> yet.
> Note that I am really willing to continue helping you with feedback to
> improve this until it's merged, if you still want to work on it. It's
> useful code that we do need, so it needs to happen, and it would be
> great to have you work on it if you find it interesting.
> In addition to the completion of that project, there's a second reason
> that is also very important: the *main* point of gsoc is not to
> develop one piece of code, but rather to grow the community of core
> contributors to a project.  In the last round of mentor list
> discussions, they have very strongly emphasized how important it is
> that students who are accepted have shown a real participation in a
> project, measured in multiple ways (especially for students who have
> been around for a while).  That means fixing bugs, contributing code
> reviews, making small developments, writing documentation, etc.  It
> may not be as much fun or sexy as diving into a big, standalone idea,
> but that's much more the reality of everyday work in a project.
> You can see for example how Thomas showed up out of the blue
> contributing pull requests at first for the python3 branch, then for
> small things, and these days if you look at the log there's a ton of
> major, critical work by him (he just completely refactored one of the
> most delicate pieces of code we had, the input handling stuff).  But
> he dove into all aspects of the project, including the thankless jobs
> of flushing the crazy backlog of pull requests I had allowed to
> accumulate after the India sprints, as well as doing massive bug
> triage.  That work is never as fun as designing some new cool app, but
> it's a necessary part of sustaining a project in the long term.  In no
> small part thanks to Thomas' efforts, we now have *zero* open pull
> requests, and we're down to *four* critical bugs for releasing 0.11.
> That's the kind of participation in a project that brings a member in
> and makes an enormous difference.  And I think you will find that if
> you engage the project like this, you will actually learn more, and
> find it more fun in the long run, than only working on one specific
> idea, because you'll get to really participate of the entire effort.
> Keep in mind that if you are still interested in participating in the
> project, we'd be thrilled to have you continue here.  The terminal
> work you've started is still very much needed, and it working on that
> will help you to become a regular ipython contributor.  With
> sufficient code merged in the project and a real record of project
> contributions and participation, you would have a much stronger case
> for applying next year, for example.
> I realize this isn't what you wanted to hear, but I hope you
> understand the reasons for this, and I'm happy to chat further about
> this, on- or off-list.  But I want to reply publicly because this is
> not something directed in any way at your personally, but rather a
> statement of how I think the project must handle students who want to
> return (as well as informing potentially interested ones in the
> future).
> All the best,
> f
> ps - thanks to Min and Brian for feedback on my reply before sending
> it; this is an important part of attempting to run a project well, so
> I wanted to make sure I said things in the clearest, but kindest way
> possible.
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