[IPython-dev] SockJS

Brian Granger ellisonbg at gmail.com
Tue Jun 26 18:32:52 EDT 2012

Oh, the other thing that I didn't mention is that we use other
features (such as the flexible box model) that older browsers don't
support.  Tackling all of these things would amount to rewriting major
portions of the notebook.

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Fernando Perez <fperez.net at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Brian Granger <ellisonbg at gmail.com> wrote:
>> We are aware of these alternatives.  My philosophy (and I think it is
>> reflected in the rest of the team) is this:  by sticking with plain
>> old WebSockets, all we have to do is *wait* for the situation to
>> improve.  That is super easy to do!  Once IE 10 comes out, we should
>> cover most browsers.  If we go another route, *we* have to do all the
>> work, and in the end, we will throw that work away because WebSockets
>> will eventually have universal support.  That sounds like extremely
>> low priority work to me.
> +1 (and also with Min).
>> People should not be running older browsers anyways.  There is simply
>> no reason, you almost have to try hard to run an older browser.
> There are real-world scenarios where individual users are *forced* to
> run older browser by constraints beyond their control, such as
> university/school/company-run machines where they have no admin
> control at all.  So I do see that *in principle* it would indeed be
> nice to support older browsers.
> But given the extremely high cost of development to us of such
> support, I just don't think it's a realistic proposition: we'd get
> bogged in a tarpit of old browser support that would easily consume
> all our limited dev resources.
> So I simply accept that IPython isn't the right tool for those in such
> constrained environments, unfortunately.  We have to pick our battles
> carefully if we're going to make progress, and this is one such
> tactical choice.
> Cheers,
> f
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Brian E. Granger
Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
bgranger at calpoly.edu and ellisonbg at gmail.com

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