[IPython-dev] Notebook filename badness

Carl Smith carl.input at gmail.com
Wed Jun 27 08:29:48 EDT 2012

I'm not suggesting IPython solve all these issues, just look at the bigger
picture a bit before trying to fix each issue one at a time.
On Jun 27, 2012 1:12 PM, "Carl Smith" <carl.input at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
> I've been discussing similar issues on a different thread. My
> impression is that IPython has issues with file management in general,
> not just files to do with projects, but the whole persistency
> abstraction is getting messy. I don't expect to ever see the IPython
> File Manager, and I can't see how it'd solve many of the problems
> anyway, but it does seem worthwhile exploring the broader issue of
> file systems, cloud storage, working directories, and so on, and
> evaluating what can be done.
> Just my two pennies.
> Carl
> On 27 June 2012 12:17, Thomas Kluyver <takowl at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 27 June 2012 02:10, Brian Granger <ellisonbg at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> What I am proposing would *improve* local use dramatically:
> >>
> >> * Persistent URLs that you can bookmark and reload across sessions.
> >> * No more worrying about accidentally renaming/uploading over an
> >> existing notebook.
> >> * A natural place for autosave files.
> >
> > But as a local application, I expect it to work with regular files in
> > normal locations on my filesystem. Our intention was 'directory as
> > project' - you can have your notebook files alongside data files and
> > Python modules. Eventually, I'd like to be able to double click the
> > ipynb files in my file manager to load them, rather than having to
> > load up our 'notebook list' as a file manager.
> >
> > This approach has lots of advantages that I don't think we want to
> > throw away. You can easily put a project in version control, or keep
> > it in Dropbox or similar services. You can quickly grab the file and
> > attach it to an email. You can easily back up the project folder.
> > Notebooks tucked away in a separate folder and named by meaningless
> > UUIDs would be much less convenient in many ways.
> >
> > Perhaps I can suggest an alternative approach: in 'local application'
> > mode, we don't try to offer a notebook manager. It's never going to be
> > as good as native file managers, and we're not really interested in
> > reimplementing that functionality. If you want to copy notebooks,
> > delete them, etc., you do it in your file manager (or terminal, if you
> > prefer). It would still need to detect conflicts when you 'save as'
> > from the notebook interface, but I'm sure we can make that work.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Thomas
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