[IPython-dev] Internet Freedom

Anthony Scopatz scopatz at gmail.com
Tue Jul 9 20:19:52 EDT 2013

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Brian Granger <ellisonbg at gmail.com> wrote:

> I personally like the goals of the IDL, but I think it is important
> for projects like IPython to remain focused.  Because of this my vote
> would be for this involvement to happen at the personal level.  I
> would like IPython itself to remain a-political - with no opinions on
> outside issues.  I feel this is especially important given the fact
> that IPython is not a legal entity - it is only an informal group of
> people who share collective copyright.  It is very difficult to
> "speak" on behalf of our entire community because of this - both on
> the practical and conceptual levels.  Groups like Mozilla and PHP or
> even the PSF are legal entities so there is a clear path for
> determining what exactly this type of support means (a vote of the
> board).

To hopefully not derail this thread too much and to speak to Brian's point
about being a legal entity, this is more the sort of thing that would be
appropriate for NumFOCUS to consider.  I suggest you join the NumFOCUS
mailing list and bring it up there <numfocus at googlegroups.com>.

Be Well

1. http://numfocus.org/

> Cheers,
> Brian
> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Carl Smith <carl.input at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The main question, I guess, is whether IPython should explicitly
> > support causes at all. Normally, an org will focus on it's own
> > problems, regardless of its members views on non-related issues. That
> > said, Mozilla and PHP have joined the IDL. Of course, Moz does have an
> > interest in this issue, but PHP doesn't, at least directly. I just
> > felt a little disappointed that it was PHP and not Python that I saw
> > on that list, and that left me confused; I've always thought it's
> > sensible to have different orgs for different problems, but
> > nonetheless felt the PSF should get involved.
> >
> > This issue is not especially relevant to IPython in particular; I
> > approached this community as it's one that I feel close to, it's very
> > diverse and it has a long-standing tradition of contributing to free
> > software. I should have perhaps made it clearer that this isn't
> > IPython Dev stuff; it's just a topic this community should perhaps
> > discuss. There's no urgency, but, in the long run, IPython will
> > probably need to address the industry's political issues on some
> > level, even if the decision is to simply leave it to specialist
> > organisations.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Carl
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> --
> Brian E. Granger
> Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
> bgranger at calpoly.edu and ellisonbg at gmail.com
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