[IPython-dev] Internet Freedom

[Brian Granger]

Anthony,

This is not a derail at all.  NumFocus would be the perfect level to
handle this type of support at - NumFocus is a legal entity, it has a
board and even "member projects".  A simple vote of the board and
member projects would be easy to do for this type of thing.  I would
be very much in favor of seeing NumFocus support IDL.

Cheers,

Brian

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Anthony Scopatz <scopatz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 6:59 PM, Brian Granger <ellisonbg at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I personally like the goals of the IDL, but I think it is important
>> for projects like IPython to remain focused.  Because of this my vote
>> would be for this involvement to happen at the personal level.  I
>> would like IPython itself to remain a-political - with no opinions on
>> outside issues.  I feel this is especially important given the fact
>> that IPython is not a legal entity - it is only an informal group of
>> people who share collective copyright.  It is very difficult to
>> "speak" on behalf of our entire community because of this - both on
>> the practical and conceptual levels.  Groups like Mozilla and PHP or
>> even the PSF are legal entities so there is a clear path for
>> determining what exactly this type of support means (a vote of the
>> board).
>
>
> To hopefully not derail this thread too much and to speak to Brian's point
> about being a legal entity, this is more the sort of thing that would be
> appropriate for NumFOCUS to consider.  I suggest you join the NumFOCUS
> mailing list and bring it up there <numfocus at googlegroups.com>.
>
> Be Well
> Anthony
>
> 1. http://numfocus.org/
>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM, Carl Smith <carl.input at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > The main question, I guess, is whether IPython should explicitly
>> > support causes at all. Normally, an org will focus on it's own
>> > problems, regardless of its members views on non-related issues. That
>> > said, Mozilla and PHP have joined the IDL. Of course, Moz does have an
>> > interest in this issue, but PHP doesn't, at least directly. I just
>> > felt a little disappointed that it was PHP and not Python that I saw
>> > on that list, and that left me confused; I've always thought it's
>> > sensible to have different orgs for different problems, but
>> > nonetheless felt the PSF should get involved.
>> >
>> > This issue is not especially relevant to IPython in particular; I
>> > approached this community as it's one that I feel close to, it's very
>> > diverse and it has a long-standing tradition of contributing to free
>> > software. I should have perhaps made it clearer that this isn't
>> > IPython Dev stuff; it's just a topic this community should perhaps
>> > discuss. There's no urgency, but, in the long run, IPython will
>> > probably need to address the industry's political issues on some
>> > level, even if the decision is to simply leave it to specialist
>> > organisations.
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> > Carl
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Brian E. Granger
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