[IPython-dev] IPython "lab meetings" on g+ hangouts on air

[Fernando Perez]

Does anyone have any good suggestions on a tool for collaborative
note-taking, so that we can leave some public summary/record of these
meetings with minimal fuss?

A google doc is a bit of a hassle for this, I think, esp. since we
want something to produce plaintext.

Etherpad is ugly as sin, but it's fairly functional and I know the
software carpentry folks use it very effectively.

Unless someone knows of a better solution, I guess we could just use
etherpad.  I'm not thinking of anything very involved, simply a
document for each meeting where everyone can type, and that we can
copy/paste to the mailing list at the end as a quick and dirty
summary.

I know we won't have time for formal minutes, so these docs could end
up being little more than a link to the URL for the youtube video.
But if there's anything worth summarizing in text, I think it will be
useful to have a note-taking app open with everyone involved.

Note that this is different from chat: g+ has an open chat channel,
but that's a sequence of messages.  What I'm thinking of is a proper
*editor* where we can leave a text file at the end; a chat app won't
work for this.

I want this to be very lightweight and low-friction, so hopefully a
simple g+ hangout plus a common text file is all we'll need.

I propose we go with the ugly etherpad unless anyone has a better
solution (but I'm happy to use something else if there is such a
thing).

Cheers,

f

On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 10:15 AM, epi <massimodisasha at gmail.com> wrote:
> I love this,
> i enjoyed the first hangout
> i'll follow you guys :)
>
> thanks!
>
> Massimo.
>
> Il giorno 19/mag/2013, alle ore 11:45, Damián Avila <damianavila at gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
>> El 16/05/13 22:06, Fernando Perez escribió:
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> as Brian just mentioned, we had a google hangout discussion today,
>>> that arose impromptu from having a chat room discussion where it was
>>> obvious we needed more bandwidth than just typing can provide.
>>>
>>> Today (perhaps because of all the changes Google made yesterday, who
>>> knows), g+ was a bit glitchy, and we were unable to make the hangout
>>> on-air, so it ended up not being recorded.  But in general we want all
>>> these discussions to be public, for example here's our previous one:
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb35M8cW7o4
>>>
>>> While I think it's great to jump in on video conversations like this
>>> as-needed from the dev room or a github issue/PR discussion, we've
>>> also been thinking about having a more regular 'lab meeting' style
>>> discussion that is scheduled at a fixed time.
>>>
>>> This would give a predictable time for everyone to participate, and
>>> would play the same role as lab meetings in everyday research, but
>>> taking into consideration the fact that we're an open, international
>>> collaboration.
>>>
>>> Those lab meetings would be held with hangouts on-air, and thus open
>>> for anyone who wants to watch and join, and kept on-record afterwards.
>>>
>>> The plan would be to hold them for ~60-90 minutes, to make regular
>>> progress on design decisions that impact the project at large.
>>> Impromptu hangouts as required by the everyday workflow will continue
>>> to happen, and we'll do our best to also record those in public
>>> format.
>>>
>>> If you like the idea, I'd like to propose Thursdays at 10am US Pacific
>>> time, i.e. UTC-7 hours right now (PDT).  That's a good time for all
>>> the folks here in California while still being reasonable in Europe.
>>> I know we can't find a time that will work across all of Earth, but at
>>> least that probably covers reasonably well our current core team and
>>> lots of others.
>>>
>>> How does this sound to you all?  Would the time work for a reasonable
>>> chunk of our active developers? Note that I am NOT asking only of the
>>> 'core' github committers, but of anyone who is putting lots of time
>>> into IPython work and is interested in joining these discussions.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> f
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>>
>> I think it is a great idea! I will try to participate in the meeting as
>> much as I can.
>>
>> Cheers.
>>
>> Damián.
>>
>>
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