[IPython-dev] pyzmq problems in sending shell messages to a kernel
Jason Grout
jason-sage at creativetrax.com
Wed Feb 12 14:04:30 EST 2014
On 2/12/14 12:54 PM, MinRK wrote:
> Nothing springs to mind, but I will think about this one for a while.
> Are there likely other outstanding requests to the same kernel at the
> time, and/or from the same requesting socket? If so, can you ballpark
> how many? What are you using to indicate that pyzmq thinks the message
> has been sent?
>
There shouldn't be any other outstanding requests to the same kernel tcp
port (i.e., the receiving side; it literally is just sitting there
waiting for computation requests). As for messages queuing up on the
sending side, I'm pretty sure there shouldn't be any (i.e., we create a
new socket), but I will check that both with our code and with wireshark.
To tell pyzmq thought it was sending/receiving a message, I inserted
code like this in the zmq/eventloop/zmqstream.py file, in the
_handle_send and _handle_recv methods, just after the recv_multipart or
send_multipart calls:
import logging
logging.getLogger('sagecell').info('sent ZMQ: %s %s'%(msg, status))
The result in the _handle_send is that the message was printed out, with
a status of None. The receiving side didn't print anything out in the
anomalous cases, but did print out the received message in the vast
majority of times.
Thanks,
Jason
> -MinRK
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:45 AM, Jason Grout
> <jason-sage at creativetrax.com <mailto:jason-sage at creativetrax.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm trying to track down a problem we're seeing in the Sage cell server
> with sending computation messages to an IPython kernel. This may end up
> being a problem with using pyzmq or zmq, so apologies in advance if it
> turns out to be OT for this list.
>
> The tl;dr version is: it appears that in some very sporadic cases, pyzmq
> is sending a message (an execute_request message) to a kernel's shell
> channel tcp port on localhost, but wireshark never registers that
> message being sent, and the kernel that is supposed to receive the
> message never acts on it. My question is: does anyone have suggestions
> on debugging this or narrowing down the problem?
>
> The (abbreviated, simplified) long version: in the sage cell server, we
> start up a number of IPython kernels that we keep waiting around for
> computations. When a computation is requested, we hook up the kernel's
> shell/iopub/heartbeat channels (i.e., create pyzmq zmqstream objects
> connecting to the tcp ports corresponding to the kernel's
> shell/io/heartbeat channels), send an execute_request, and assemble an
> answer for the user from output coming back on the iopub channel. When
> the system is under moderate load, every now and then (maybe every 300
> computations), we send an execute_request message to one of these
> kernels that is waiting around, and I see the zmq socket code claiming
> that it sent the message, but wireshark indicates that the message was
> never transmitted when looking at raw tcp traffic, and the kernel acts
> like it never received the message. We didn't change the high water
> mark for zmq, and I'm running zmq 3.2.2 and pyzmq 14.0.1. I've spent a
> long time narrowing the issue down to a zmq message not being sent, even
> though pyzmq seems to have thought it sent it. Does anyone have any
> suggestions for narrowing this down more, or possible causes?
>
> I realize that my setup is a bit complicated, and I've tried to simplify
> the issues (but hopefully not too much). Any suggestions or help would
> be appreciated. The next thing I'm going to do is (a) upgrade zmq to
> 4.x, and (b) insert some debugging statements in the zmq library itself
> to see if the C zmq library thinks it sent the message.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jason
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