[IPython-dev] Results of last year's user survey

[MinRK]

There are chat rooms for organizations and repos

- only members of an organization can join the org room
- public repo rooms are public
- private repo rooms are private

I think there are two things that we use on HipChat that gitter doesn't do:

- guest access (GitHub login is required even for public rooms)
- push/email notifications for mentions when idle (it supports desktop, but
not offline notifications)

For the most part, I think Gitter seems a lot better than HipChat,
especially for guests (at least those with GitHub accounts). I am not
especially fond of HipChat, and the guest experience is pretty horrendous
(no native app, no history, frequent crashes, etc.), so I wouldn't mind
giving something else a try.

-MinRK



On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Aaron Meurer <asmeurer at gmail.com> wrote:

> Gitter does support direct messages. I don't know if it supports private
> rooms.
>
> Aaron Meurer
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Thomas Kluyver <takowl at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 10 March 2014 13:02, Aaron Meurer <asmeurer at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>  I didn't know you guys were dropping 2.6 support so soon.
> >
> >
> > Yep. We've been fairly aggressive with Python version requirements for a
> > while - we were one of the first projects to drop 2.5 support as well. We
> > anticipate we'll get some bug reports about it, but we think it's worth
> it
> > to be able to use 2.7 features reliably. It's so easy to forget what 2.6
> > didn't have, which is why we had to release 1.2.1 soon after 1.2.0.
> >
> >>
> >> Regarding hipchat, I hate to say it, but nobody uses it because it
> >> sucks. I personally hate it every time I try to use it. The interface
> >> is just the worst for people who are not registered. You guys should
> >> take a look at gitter.im. It integrates with GitHub, it's free, and it
> >> has nice things like backlogs on chats for everyone.
> >
> >
> > We do actually see a couple of questions on Hipchat most days - probably
> > more traffic than the mailing list - but I don't think most of the people
> > using the help chat room would have heard about the survey. Gitter does
> look
> > interesting, though.
> >
> > Brian: I think Gitter has private rooms if you associate it with private
> > repos. People who can see the repo see the chat room. I don't know about
> > direct messaging.
> >
> >>
> >> I'm a little surprised about the academia vs. industry usage. I
> >> suspect there were just more respondents from the academic side than
> >> from industry.
> >
> >
> > That's quite possible. The results are probably also biased towards
> English
> > speakers, early adopters, and technically proficient users. Getting a
> > representative sample is pretty tricky. But I think the results give us
> some
> > ballpark figures.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
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