[IPython-dev] [jupyter] Re: Notebook websocket change

Brian Granger ellisonbg at gmail.com
Thu Jan 8 18:23:32 EST 2015


Thanks Fernando, that was it exactly!

On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Fernando Perez <fperez.net at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Brian Granger <ellisonbg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> * We estimate that the total ipython user base is in the 0.5-1.5 million
>> range. However, this is likely a very conservative estimate. Fernando has
>> the best summary of where we get these estimates (I don't remember where
>> the most recent information is - probably in a private email to someone).
>
>
> This is how I most recently answered the question "what is the impact and
> user base of IPython", indeed in the context of a private email as part of
> the EU Sage-math grant proposal:
>
>
> Getting metrics for usage is very tough, but we have some information. You
> can read the report we wrote early this year for Sloan, that provides a
> bunch of info (notebook and PDF format):
>
>
> http://nbviewer.ipython.org/github/ipython/sloan-2013-reports/blob/master/IPython%202013%20Progress%20Report%20-%20Sloan%20Foundation.ipynb
>
>
> http://archive.ipython.org/sloan-2013-reports/IPython%202013%20Progress%20Report%20-%20Sloan%20Foundation.pdf
>
> As you can see, rather than a single blurb of download stats, we paint a
> more complex (but I think richer) picture of broad usage and impact.  A few
> more things since:
>
> - Recently highlighted in the cover of Nature:
>
> http://www.nature.com/news/interactive-notebooks-sharing-the-code-1.16261
>
> and that article links to a live, interactive demo here:
>
> http://www.nature.com/news/ipython-interactive-demo-7.21492
>
> This demo broke readership records for Nature, to the best of our
> understanding (we blew past the estimates the editors gave us in terms of
> highest numbers of simultaneous readers to expect).
>
> - The NBviewer site has very significant usage, these are the Google
> Analytics numbers for the period Nov 8, 2014-Dec 8, 2014:
>
>
> Sessions
> 423,334
> Users
> 215,546
> Pageviews
> 844,523
> That's almost 1 million page views for people sharing content as IPython
> notebooks (that's the only purpose of that site).
>
> - Our Gallery of notebooks is a good showcase of the breadth of usage and
> impact of the notebook across domains:
>
>
> https://github.com/ipython/ipython/wiki/A-gallery-of-interesting-IPython-Notebooks
>
> - This list shows the adoption of our kernel architecture across
> languages: 23 independent implementations and counting, meaning this system
> is becoming the lingua franca of interactive computing:
>
> https://github.com/ipython/ipython/wiki/IPython-kernels-for-other-languages
>
> - Here is a list of other projects (in academia and industry) using
> IPython:
>
> https://github.com/ipython/ipython/wiki/Projects-using-IPython
>
> - It's very hard to get accurate user counts, but we *estimate* at least
> ~2 Million users.  This is a rough estimate, but I think realistic (and if
> anything, a conservative undercount). The estimate goes as follows:
>
> a) Estimates of linux users (not datacenter servers) range from 20M for
> Ubuntu to ~70M across distros:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#Installed_base
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_adoption#Measuring_desktop_adoption
>
> b) The Debian 'popcon' statistics:
>
> https://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=ipython
>
> show IPython to be installed on ~ 5% of Debian installs.
>
> If we use that as a baseline, and estimate total linux user counts at say
> ~50M (rough average of the above two numbers), we get about 2.5M installs
> of IPython on linux. This doesn't count source installs, pip installs, nor
> any of the Windows and Mac OSX users who get it via Anaconda, Enthought
> Canopy, etc.  Nor does it count the increasing number of server-side hosted
> deployments we see more and more of.
>
> But at least it gives a credible way to justify that IPython probably has
> *at least* 2M users.
>
>
>
>
>
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Brian E. Granger
Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
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