[IPython-dev] Poll on Deprecating %load_ext

Matthias Bussonnier bussonniermatthias at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 10:16:38 EDT 2015


Hi Max !

> On Jul 10, 2015, at 03:06, Maximilian Albert <maximilian.albert at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I think it's absolutely great that there is a concerted effort from the core team to involve the wider community and seek feedback on these kinds of questions. As numerous examples have shown in the past, users often extend (or even bend) the existing infrastructure in interesting/unexpected ways, and it's essential to understand these before making changes like this.

Thanks for your input. 


> 
> However, I'd like to point out that it's barely been 16 hours since Matthias' first email in this thread, so I'm almost certain that not everybody who has an opinion on this has even read all the emails yet). As we saw in the discussion about deleting gitter chatrooms, proceeding too quickly can lead to frustration even for core developers who continuously monitor this mailing list if they feel they didn't have a chance to respond in time.

Sure, we’ll wait a bit. Here it’s “Just” a deprecation warning, so no need to be worry about breakage, but for
sure we should be more careful with breaking changes (though for PR that can be reverted if needed) 


> I was wondering whether it's worth having some sort of 'protocol' which prescribes certain minimum timeframe for these kinds of discussion and ensures that everyone interested has had a chance to state there opinion on it? It would be a shame to alienate users just because they miss a discussion that only lasted for a few hours. We might not even find out about it because they may just silently turn away from the community without speaking up.

Yes, please Say something even if it’s after and you are not happy. This is one of our way to get feedback. 
Even if something has already been said, even if you just agree, or disagree, say it. This give us rough stat
of what **you** are thinking !

> 
> I have no feeling for what a reasonable timeframe would be, though (maybe 2-3 days? - might be worth asking the community about it :-P). I can also see how keeping discussions open for longer may lead to an additional burden for the developers who need to keep track of open issues. What does everyone think? If it's worth discussing then I'm happy to re-send this email in a separate thread so that it's not buried where people are likely to miss it.

I think a day, two at max is enough, as for some decision we can rollback, and most people will only complain once it has landed into master. 
So let’s keep these short enough still. 

I’ll probably merge this later. 

Thanks !!
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M

> 
> Cheers,
> Max
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