[IronPython] What happened to source drops?

Michael Foord fuzzyman at voidspace.org.uk
Tue Sep 30 00:14:07 CEST 2008


Dino Viehland wrote:
> I would actually suggest compiling the standard modules as well as your code and then ngen them both on install.  You can compile the std modules into their own .dll so the user can always replace them w/ their own version (or they can simply delete the DLL and then pick up the .py files).
>
> The reason I suggest this is with the bits on my machine I'm seeing massive import speed ups w/ pre-compilation + ngen (e.g. 3x or so).
>
>   
Wow - that's great news. It makes the transition to IronPython 2 all the 
better for Resolver One.

In the next release of Resolver One (1.3) we have almost halved startup 
time - all down to the work of Kamil Dworakowski who has implemented 
various improvements including a very clever parallel import system 
(complete with import graph analysis) that I'm sure he'll blog about soon...

Thanks

Michael Foord

> And decimal does import a lot more - but the real working set hit came from publishing all the SymbolIDs for every precompiled module - once for each module - on startup!  A small oversight :)...  But there were a few other areas that could use some improvement as well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Michael Foord
> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:30 PM
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> Subject: Re: [IronPython] What happened to source drops?
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> Dino Viehland wrote:
>   
>> They're checked in so they'll be in the next source push.  There are some perf problems that I have fixes for though that aren't checked in (e.g. import decimal in pre-compiled currently allocates ~550MB of memory) - but you should be able to do functional testing :).  I'll should have the pre-comp perf fixes in this week.
>>
>>     
>
> Cool - thanks. 550mb for one module - wow. Good job we aren't intending
> to precompile the Python standard library modules we're using. Having
> said that we have quite a chunk of Python source we would like to
> compile - I wonder if a 4gb address space will be enough. I think we
> will be reluctant to move to 64bit oses only... ;-)
>
> Michael
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Michael Foord
>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 2:15 PM
>> To: Discussion of IronPython
>> Subject: Re: [IronPython] What happened to source drops?
>>
>> Dino Viehland wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> It looks like the script which automatically publishes the code has stopped publishing the updates.  Dave's OOF today and I can't find the original instructions but Sri's looking into it.
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>> Cool. If you get the compiling packages fixes into a code drop please
>> let me know so that we can start testing them early.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Michael Foord
>>
>>
>>     
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com [mailto:users-bounces at lists.ironpython.com] On Behalf Of Dan Eloff
>>> Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 1:23 PM
>>> To: Discussion of IronPython
>>> Subject: [IronPython] What happened to source drops?
>>>
>>> I'm noticing that the last source drop was the beta 5 release two weeks ago.
>>>
>>> I don't mean to pressure you guys, but I am looking forward to the
>>> next source release, which seems to have the delegate regressions
>>> fixed. Any (vague) idea of when regular source drops will be resumed?
>>>
>>> By the way, I built IronPython b5 for Silverlight RC0, and I had to
>>> modify Microsoft.Scripting.Silverlight.ErrorFormatter:
>>>
>>> -  HtmlPage.Document.GetElementsByTagName("body")[0].AppendChild(target);
>>> +  ((HtmlElement)HtmlPage.Document.GetElementsByTagName("body")[0]).AppendChild(target);
>>>
>>> I'm not fully sure how this code compiled in the first place, as
>>> ScriptObject never had an AppendChild method. Probably this code has
>>> already been fixed, but it's worth checking anyway.
>>>
>>> -Dan
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