[IronPython] License change?

RPEHLM rpehlm at btinternet.com
Tue Apr 20 05:00:40 CEST 2010


Use the MS licence and help build a positive reputation for MS.  I get 
sick and tired of MS being constantly (and unfairly) denigrated, 
especially when the other lot (not referring to the Linux crowd here) 
are not playing particularly 'nice' at the moment.  I don't care that MS 
played 'nasty' some time in the past, most big firms do from time to 
time.  BUT the past is the past.

Robin
Expat Brit happily living in Germany (paternal grandfather was killed in 
WW2 by a U-boat near Galvaston [city refused to switch off lights at 
night]).

Vernon Cole wrote:
> Yes, a change to a license which did not contain the name "Microsoft" 
> would be a benefit.  People have long memories, and Microsoft has a 
> remembered history of not playing well with others. (My own memory 
> goes back 20 years to the WordPerfect war.) I tend to not trust the 
> news from MSNBC simply because of the first two letters in the name.  
> Unfortunately, prejudice runs deep in humans.
>    Even more unfortunately, Microsoft's policy of refusing to allow 
> patches to IronPython from outside the company reinforces the worry 
> that, even though the playground bully may be acting nice right now, 
> he's still a bully deep down inside.  It really interferes with the 
> desired image of MS as a team player.  IMHO some corporate Vice 
> President should visit the legal department and slap faces until that 
> policy gets changed.  But what do I know? -- I'm just a customer.
>   For all you in the development team, keep up the good work!
> --
> Vernon Cole
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Dan Wierenga <dwierenga at gmail.com 
> <mailto:dwierenga at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Dino Viehland
>     <dinov at microsoft.com <mailto:dinov at microsoft.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     >   Do you think adopting a more popular license, such as the
>     Apache License, would be a good change for IronPython?
>
>     My $.02: there aren't a lot of people that are familiar with the MS
>     public licenses compared to the Apache/GPL/BSD/etc licenses. For many
>     of them, the mention of "Microsoft" in the license name immediately
>     (erroneously, but immediately nonetheless) makes them conclude a
>     project isn't open source.
>
>
>     Adopting a license that people are familiar with will make it easier
>     for them to come to terms with the fact that Microsoft can and does
>     sponsor open-source projects.  And it convinces them from the outset
>     that there isn't some hidden backdoor in the license for Microsoft to
>     exploit.
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